tune in every saturday night. tune in on twitter judge jeanine. laura ingraham is live next. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> laura: hey, everybody, i'm lawyer that ingraham and welcome to this special edition of the ingraham angle. culture wars and the age of trump. as we have been reporting since our debut five months ago on nearly every single issue, the left seems kind of fresh out of ideas. and i'm saying it this way. rather than offering reasonable solutions to real world problems facing the measure people, the left is desperately trying to stoke protests at almost every turn. you don't believe me? watch this. >> so many more americans, including our president has never worn the uniform and he needs to back off. because i would stand up and fight for transgender and all military men and women.

>> the census is not a political tool. this is a first cousin of these voter i.d. laws. make sure that african-americans and latinos can't vote. >> president trump might have met his match with stormy daniels. >> are trump's alleged affairs a threat to his presidency? >> we are talking understandably and appropriately about the most serious legal allegations that stormy daniels made. >> clearly, this is something that has gotten to the president. >> the reason he can't engage with stormy daniels is because she has got his number. >> actually extraordinary cultural moment that a porn star is more credible than the president of the united states. >> laura: never trumper. joining me now for reaction is democratic strategist richard good stein and dan bongino former secret service agent and contributor to nra tv. great to see poet of you. all right. let's see you, richard, the president's numbers are at its highest point that they have been since last spring.

even cnn has to concede that trump and the g.o.p. see their popularity rise. they say it's not bigly but going up. generic ballot 16% democrat favor to 6% in march. seemed like the people want more real world solutions to real world problems. the democrats keep going back to these other wedge issues. >> he is still historically unpopular relevant detective to every president at this point in thinks administration. gallup poll has him at 40 favorable. >> laura: that's what they had him at about of he won the election. >> just saying. what you have is record number of retirements from the house members. pretty sensitive to these numbers as well. record numbers like off the charts of committee chairs. dozens being outraised democratic incumbents being outraised by republican challengers. really have careers hinge on these numbers, they don't have the confidence that you

have that somehow or another that trump is trumping back. i will say that there is pot calling the kettle black to say that somehow democrats are playing up these cultural issues. this is the willie horton party. >> laura: what michael dukakis came up with willie horton. >> reagan and welfare queen. jesse helms crumbling that up paper. the way that donald trump is race baited. >> laura: barack obama at the same point in his presidency was 46%, he wasn't above 50. look, this has been a wild ride for a year all i'm saying is when it comes to the economy when it comes to trade agreements slightly better for middle america. fewer people unemployed. that's good stuff. doesn't mean everything is perfect and there aren't big disagreements. i think that d.c. deep poll

when it came out this week. daniel, can you comment on this. showed in swing districts especially, democrats really would be well-served to at least appear to be trying to work with the president on some of these issues. and i think when you see the comments by greenberg quillen research, they say look, in these swing diswicketdistricts, they must be willing it express hope and desire to work with this president when his agenda might help in the district. trade comes to mind and some of this deregulatory move come to mind that free up american manufacturing and spur business growth. >> laura, i agree, that's very difficult. the moderate democrat who has to engage in primary fight. remember, laura, the conor lamb race in pennsylvania, recently. there was no primary. democrat primary viewers have increasingly moved to the radical far left. it's not going to be easy, even in a swinging type district to win a primary

anymore. let me double down on opening. the democrats are out of ideas on the policy realm. i mean, laura, what are they going it run on. let's forget school choice. they can't put that on a campaign sign. what do they do? they run on everyone else is a racist. so vote against republicans but don't vote for us. they have nothing. that's a good point. >> laura: richard? >> yeah, so, to answer that i think that democrat are run on what george w. bush ran on i want to restore honor and dignity to the white house. >> laura: democrats are going to run on that. >> audience doesn't want kids to emulate the bullying and womanizing of donald trump. they they don't.

they may think this economy helps them but shutter at the thought this man is in charge because he seems erratic than more to the values that they want to think that their president holds. >> laura: dan, look, the democrats are now aim about cover sall aboutconsensual rela. i thought it was free love. we have moved a long way. more traditional mor morass. >> i always appreciate richard's commentary. he fires me up like no one else. >> laura: i love richard. >> he is a great guest. he really fires me up. what he said was more of a comedy act rather than an actual committe commentary. the democrat party is going to bring honor and dignity? >> george w. bush.

>> this was the party of barack obama using the irs if you like your plan can you keep your plan. relations in the oval office. we can't even talk about whawith my kids because they are under age. richard, please, give us a break about the honesty and integrity line. i'm a christian conservative, i'm saharan, too. i get it. >> laura: everybody is. >> that is absolutely ridiculous that the democrats are the party of honesty and integrity, come on. >> laura: we all have our issues. each party has problems on that score. we have seen that i whic think the economy in the end is what people are voting for. 56%, again to the dcc research 56% of americans in these districts are saying that they are confident about the future. i'm happy weighs the way people feel. it was a rough ride for many americans. we have a long way to go. i want to play a sound bite of al sharpton another big

controversy police use of force against unarmed black man. let's watch. stephon clarke shot a week or so ago. this is boiling into a new controversy. we have had proftses that protee most part haven't been violent thank goodness. he said this is not a local issue of law enforcement. this is a national issue. he made a point of saying that i believe that was at the funeral as well of certifstephon clarke. the racial issue at least on the economic level should be getting better and it's slowly getting better. republicans are arguing, at least trump is arguing we want to make sure we have more jobs for people who need them, black, white, latino, entering the workforce for the first time. slowing down the number of illegal immigrants who take

those jobs, traditionally entry level jobs. they haven't done a great job of selling that i think they should and i think donald trump should go into those areas, as uncomfortable as it might be and actually preach the good news of his economic reform. >> two things, first, remember donald trump said to the black community what do you have to lose? answer, healthcare, voting rights. medicare, social security. i'm just saying that there are actually, we now see after a year and a quarter that there are things that the black community did lose. >> laura: how are they losing voting rights. >> it seems to me if you look what the the justice department is doing and ♪ doing they are not standing up for the voting rights of the black community in districts and states around the country. >> laura: i just don't understand what examples do you have of that. >> let me just say one other thing about donald trump. the problem is his bona fides when it comes to race relations are frankly between what he said about the central park five. what he said about good people on both sides at charlottesville. he just also a no standing. i agree with you. the only way he is going to restore it is to go into

those communities. >> laura: he should do that. >> say something meaningful as opposed to something that's trite and frankly -- >> laura: dan, close tout. >> richard, donald trump was celebrated by people in the civil rights community before he ran as a republican. richard, how do you square this circle black unemployment is down dramatically. black middle class expanded by a third under ronald reagan. and they are stopping black people from voting? did you just make that up and please don't tell me because it would be entirely racist to suggest that because you are black you don't know how to get an identification card. that would be entirely absurd for you to suggest that i hope that's not what you are saying, right? >> laura: do you want to make. >> what i'm saying is that every line in the economy is on a straight line starting with the pits that barack obama inherited to the great kind of record that he developed. so all donald trump has to do is step out of the way. >> blaming bush now. >> that accounts for why his numbers are as strong as they are.

>> laura: clearly manufacturing rebirth that is happening. all the announcements from apple on down companies bringing back wealth to the united states, i don't think there is a strong argument that that would have were it not for the tax cut that he helped push through and all these other reforms. we will see how this goes. the republicans have a long way to go in selling the message of free market capitalism and, you know, individual initiatives that's rewarded into all communities, especially minority communities. they have a heavy lift. great segment, guys. dan and richard thanks so much. the democrats as i said seem to have no interest in working with president trump on cultural issues or anything for that matter. is that good politics? not according to a poll i mentioned just a short while ago. new private poll conducted for the democratic congressional campaign committee as reported by axios. they found that democrats running in these swing districts quote must express a willingness to work with the president. as i said. well, joining me now for reaction is shelby steel, a senior fellow at the hoover

institution. dr. steel, great to see you. how are you? >> i'm good. i'm good. good to be here. >> laura: does that surprise you that there seems to be an unwillingness on the part of democrats on the issue of the president moving from daca kids from 800,000 kids who would have gotten amnesty, dr. steel, to 1.8 million would have received amnesty under the trump proposal. the democrats in the end as i predicted said not going to do it. >> that's right. that's right. there is the source of their power and on the american left. i think has a lot to do with supporting policies that win them a kind of innocence in the culture that put them on the side of the good show them to be redeeming,

racist, sexist, so forth past. so that is what they are looking for in bills like this and in much of what they pursue today because the other side of that is that america has morally grown in the last 50 years. it is not the racist society that i grew up in, for example. today, it is -- you can say that the oppression of minorities is over with it's simply systemic part. this pulls the rug out from liberals. they have no mandate than to rectify history and rectify the past. they are a bit exhausted at this point. they don't know what to do next. stephon clarke funeral i mentioned. al sharpton flies in. he gets up and speaks at the

funeral. people are very impassioned. he said i flew here 3,000 miles only for this family and to keep this going. we have a sound bite. let's watch. >> white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders to say this is a local issue is the main reason that many of us said no matter what, we will be here. this is not a local issue. it's a national problem. >> laura: it's a national problem. now, we will see what the facts of this case ultimately show. but whether it was trayvon martin or michael brown or freddie gray. each horrible innocent ended up racial slash point regardless what the ultimate facts determined, dr. steele. >> well, the flash point, if we're going to have a flash point, should be mr. sharpton should fly to chicago where in 2016762

young black largely boys shot by other black boys committed that many murders in one year wheres that liberal sharpton again. again, liberalism goes after examples of victimization. what's amazing about mr. sharpton he has a passion for black victimization. he loves it he celebrates it he won't let anybody escape it because victimization is his only source of power. he has nothing else to offer. nothing to say about the economy. immigration, whatever. nor do most on the left. they can call people racist. take positions that give them this ora of innocence from the americans. i'm not a racist.

i'm an in the, good-hearted american. we're going to go and have diversity and inclusion and so forth while they actually ignore the real problems. if you have got 762 boys being shot on the south side of chicago in one year that suggestings a profound unheard of level of human pathology particularly in the western world. well, what -- we will believe them again when they begin to have something meaningful to say about that circumstance. >> laura: dr. stool, we have talked about this before on radio and you are so insightful on what happened to the actual debate. i saw this going back to college there is an attempt to shut down debate. someone actually raises a point about what happens when our fighting forces become social experimentation places. then you are anti-trans.

or anti-this or anti-that. instead of having a conversation what works best for the military or what works best for borders. i are anti-immigrant. the left does not want a discussion. they want to impose their will on others and if you do not bow down to them. they want to try to demonize you or, you know, isolate the sole solon ski tactics so patently obvious at this point. >> that's absolutely right they want to shame you. and that's really what they are about. again, they have no other other than sort of again identification with innocence moral superiority. one thing they resent the most is pragmatism. nuts and bolts of it how do we fix a problem like the family break down we see across the black america

today? what do we do there pragmatically down on the ground that can actually move us into the modern world? now that as blacks we enjoy this level of freedom. what's going to help us meet that challenge? nothing to say. they want to take us back to the old world. he wants to fly to sacramento. stand before the cough continue of another black kid and basically identify that event with slavery and segregation and so forth and sohio himself to be humanely concerned with all of this he never appears in chicago or baltimore or st. louis or detroit. any of those cities. >> laura: doctor, it's a heart-breaker but it is utterly predictable and to a lot of people it's utterly depressing. but your insights are amazing. i could do a whole hour with you. thank you so much for coming on tonight. we really, really appreciate it and by the way, also something that's been

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>> laura: welcome back. over 18 million people watched that debut of the roseanne reboot on tuesday night. staggeringly high number in thisser wrath cable television and smart phones. according to a report in the "new york times," the idea to relaunch the show came from a brainstorming session at abc. this happened the day after president trump's victory over hillary clinton. it took a presidential election for the suits at abc to realize that regular americans had different values than the far left people who live on the coast. wow. joining me for reaction is cathy arrive ryu who is a publisher of catalina magazine and here with my in the studio is mollie hemingway senior editor of the federalist. i love this story. i love it so much. catherine, i want to start with you. >> okay. >> laura: the "new york times" writes this piece and says the meeting that took place on the morning of mr. trump's surprise victory led new york to reconsider strategies and had in place means of revised strategies

centering on struggling midwestern family a show to appeal to the voters who had helped put mr. trump in the white house. is ben sherwood still the head of abc entertainment? he is a smart guy. i know ben. if he had anything to do with it doesn't surprise me. it is amazing. like these people have always existed. they have always been there we have a coast and america in between. i'm sorry that's tom wolf's line. why did it take them so long to figure this out? >> i think the election maybe inspired them. i would hope they were going to have this meeting anyway. they were number four when it came to the network channels in ratings. abc had not had a hit for a while. modern family had not been working. other shows had not been working. i wouldn't say that roseanne is the brand new answer because they are hitting on middle america. middle america loves empire. empire is fox's big hit ratings buster. walking dead huge hit. that's about zombies. i don't think that's about middle america. i wouldn't say that exactly

roseanne is a reflection of what americans are looking for because it's them. >> laura: cathy, 18 million people tuned in. >> exactly. big bang theory. >> laura: big bang theory launched how many years ago. big bang theory a liberal favorite and funny show i watch it every now and then. it's on every channel all the time. >> right? >> laura: mollie, it's not like it's a conservative show. just treats people who are conservative like they are real people have a sense of humor: like "duck dynasty" in the beginning. they were really popular. >> what an audience. >> laura: it's massive. >> reflective of what happens when you make good art. this is such a small thing for a really large population of people. there isn't one kind of trump voter. yes, the people on roseanne might represent one type of trump voter. there are tons of different type of trump voters.

so unrepresented in our art it's bizarre. this is a group that's large enough to elect a president and, yet, media treat them as if they don't exist or cartoon characters of evil. >> laura: speaking of which donnie deutsche on morning joe had this little snarky comment about the roseanne deal. let's watch. >> isn't a big part of this news is the demo that watches appointment television that means when it's actually on the air when ratings count are the more red state, lower income, lower education and, yes, when you put that on broadcast television, l-3 television, those numbers are always going to be higher. >> laura: cathy? >> i don't know. i don't always agree with donnie deutsche. i think middle america loves the walking dead and those were zombies. i think right now maybe roseanne yeah did come out with 18 million viewers. at the same time there is a sister there who is anti-trump supporter.

>> laura: that's the point. >> that's what's beautiful. this is what is happening in america. i think the coast and middle america, everyone can relate to rose san right now because we all have trump supporters and nontrump supporters in our lives and this show is teaching us how to live with that we haven't seen this on tv right now. brand new arch were bunker and it was about time. i think all of us can relate to this show no matter what coast or middle states we are living in. >> laura: good point. i have family members who lo trump. family members who can't stand him. it is amazing that sometimes in families they can't even speak to each other. like, you guys are family. this is family. family should transcend politics. what are you talking about? >> i think it shows so many people in hollywood think they are being brave when they go up among their piers that have the same views and talk about how they have the same views. so much better when people do art grappling with members in the family. >> laura: that's real family. >> that's better than what we see usually from hollywood which is preachy.

>> laura: cathy. >> beauty of the show appealing to all of us. >> laura: they love each other. >> they love each other and led by a trump supporter. there is the other representation. i think we are all learning from this show. hopefully the ratings can stay up because she is doing a favor to all of us right now. >> laura: do you guys think this will be replicated. everyone thought after the passion of the christ that everyone would see all these more religious films that were really well done. i'm not sure. i think most of these folks in hollywood, they put profits second and ideology first. you have an opportunity to have struck gold with this audience for decades and yet, they have not done it because they are ideologically incapable of seeing past their own, you know, the hanged in front of their face. >> yeah. every few years you get a lesson like this where people really do have, you know, overwhelming numbers of people coming out to see things that are different

than the traditional values done by hollywood. and, yet, they care. >> laura: "american sniper." >> they care so much about ideology. >> laura: a little embarrassing for some of these executives, cathy, if they put on a show that a lot of these traditional folks like there is a strain of intolerance in that narrative. we would see more of it because we have half the country doesn't agree with the prevailing wisdom in hollywood and that half of the country is not served. cathy, can you wind it up for us. >> in hollywood they do say everyone first wants to be second. now that they see there is a winning formula. they will return to try to replicate it and i don't know if they can do it. roseanne has done it beautifully. >> laura: all right, guys. people of faith by the way speaking up. standing with president trump amid the stormy daniels controversy. we will tell you why. this holy week, did the pope really say that hell does not exist? our friday follies segment

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>> laura: welcome back. let's get right into it with our friday folly segment tonight. three hot topics. evangelicals are sticking by president trump. no matter how stormy things get. and did the pope really say hell doesn't exist? and walmart pulled a magazine from its racks and the media freak out. joining me now with analysis is fox news contributor raymond arollo.

this is wild. evangelicals still supporting donald trump. we have been hit with nonstop stormy daniels and other people coverage. >> other alleged relationships and it seems the evangelicals such a big part of the trump fan base and supporters, 8 to 10 they are supporting him and giving him job approval numbers at that level. will out of 10 evangelicals still support him. that's incredible in the face of what they have been seeing. >> laura: so the left thought that they would push the sex narrative, donald trump. >> the networks with doing it around the clock. >> laura: it is nonstop. they thought that would crack him. that would crack him. crack his support. it reminds me of the billie bush tape came out. they thought that was it we stuck a fork in him. he is done. again, they don't want to debate trump on the issues. they do not want to talk issues. they want to demonize and isolate him and destroy him. that's the left's tactic.

>> look at this piece of video. this is cnn. they convened a group of evangelical women and they thought well, we will rattle them. we will play some stormy daniels for them. this is what happened. >> why would she come out and give this interview if she wasn't telling the truth? >> money. >> money. >> and more money. >> do any -- based on this interview, do any of you believe that stormy daniels did have sex with trump? >> >> i don't believe it i haven't seen any hard proof. >> believe the president of the united states. >> pick him over her. >> or a stripper porn star. >> i go with the president of the united states. >> this is a porn star. why are we giving it any credibility? >> laura: why are they sticking by him? >> they are sticking by him because, remember, during the campaign, i went out polling places and encountered a number of evangelicals and catholics why in the light of the billie bush thing are you voting for this man? >> laura: that's right. >> they sewed we believe he is check not only on government gone away we didn't like it to go but on our churches that have also gotten very political. they are talking about

environmental issues and climate change and we don't agree with that they said. they see the president as a check in all those areas. look at the agenda and the record he has changed and dropped the obamacare regulations. >> laura: funding planned parenthood though. >> well, planned parenthood. >> laura: that's a billing mistake. >> stopped the funding of planned parenthood which he promised and protections. still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt also for a man not particularly religious, he speaks and talks about god with regulator. evangelicals like that. >> laura: i still remember the lighting of the christmas tree. i haven't heard jesus mentioned that much. that was unbelievable. >> it was a very heart felt. >> laura: religious. we are used to saying happy seasons greetings. >> santa claus. all about the baby in the manger. >> laura: the pope sent everyone over the edge

through this interview that he did with 3-year-old the atheist. >> italian newspaper 93 years old. he has interviewed the pope five times. >> laura: why is the pope going to do interviews think he might convert him. >> convert him and friendly. see the world politically in the same way. look, he claimed the pope said hell does not exist. we will put it up on your screen. what exists is the disappearance of sinful souls, i won't go further because we are running out of time. >> laura: there it is. can you read the whole thing. >> hell does not exist. what exist u.s. is the disappearance of sinful souls. they are not punished. those who repent obtain the forgiveness of god and go among the ranks of the souls who contemplate him. those who could not repent therefore cannot be forgiven they disappear. now, as can you imagine, all of christian dom was up in arms when this headline hit pope says hell does not exist. >> laura: good friday thing. >> this is the second time

he has claimed the pope said hell does not exist. >> laura: isn't that the whole point of the resurrection? >> this has caused -- people listening. they said the article is the part of his reconstruction which the exact words spoken by the pope are not quoted. no quotation marks in the above article should therefore be considered as a faithful transcription of the holy father's words. that's a non-denial denial. i mean, so people are still wondering what does that mean? >> laura: interpretation of the interpretation. >> the language wasn't exactly what he said. buff the question is subsubstantively did he capture what the pope meant. >> i doubt it the pope has talked about satan and the lures of the devil for a long time. they should decry this and say the pope believes in hell and this is a big misfire. >> laura: well, now walmart

is removing -- we don't have enough time. they are removing cosmo. >> they don't want little girls sex and how to please your man. >> laura: good. >> happy good friday. >> laura: by the way p.c. mob sets its sights on monuments. thomas jefferson is next when the ingraham angle returns. just one free hearing test at his local miracle ear helped andrew hear more of the joy in her voice. just one hearing test is all it took for him to hear more of her laugh... and less of the background noise around him. for helen, just one visit to her local miracle-ear is all it took to learn how she can share more moments with her daughter. just one free hearing test could help you hear more... laughter... music... life.

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♪ come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away. ♪ want thomas jefferson, his statue outside the student center removed because our nation's third president owned slaves. and last year the city of new orleans removed several

confederate statues. here is what new orleans democrat mayor mitch landrieu had to say about this issue earlier today. >> you can't change history by taking a statue down. you are just moving it to another place. these statues prominent places and reflect four years of new orleans 300 years history crowding out all of the other history. >> laura: joining me now for reaction is correspondent at large geraldo rivera author of the geraldo show a memoir and with me here on set is fox news political analyst gee an know caldwell. mitch landrieu also a had a number of statues removed in the dark of night. they have been there a long time. worth multimillion dollars and we don't know where most of them are. p.c. beauregard and other statues are just gone. what's your take on this? is this the right way to handle these historical monuments? >> putting aside what's happening in new orleans. and i really do like mayor

landrieu. i think is he a very thoughtful man. i think his family has real roots. real cred when it comes to new orleans and louisiana history generally speaking. remember, laura, i resigned from my fellowship at yale university a year or so ago when they changed the name taking john c. calhoun's name off the college and naming it for more contemporary person. i fear when history starts being rewritten constantly through the prism of political correctness and contemporary thought, that we risk cutting ourselves off from our roots. i absolutely get that slavery, this abomination is different than a lot of things that happened in political life. this is something like the holocaust, that can't be forgiven but i think that to try and continually rewrite history, jefferson was a slave owner. so was george washington. what will happen when the

entire first third of our history is cut off or in some way covered up, laura? >> well, there is levels, as i see it. you have the confederate statues. ones of generals and if you look at the history of the generals, most of those guys, they were military, generally speaking and that was pretty much it. so have you got these statues in public squares of individuals who fought to really divide our country. and when you look at it from that perspective it gives a greater degree of understanding why statues like that really should be in museums. now when it comes to somebody like thomas jefferson, for example, he is much more than a slave owner. that was a past of his. somebody who created had a hand in creating the declaration of independence. he said all men are created equal and in addition to that he was the president. he was a governor. he was a secretary of state. so, this is an individual i think that we can celebrate. although he did have past sins. these other individuals, however, their past sins was

the majority of their career from the viewnt o viewpoint of g confederate -- >> laura: general beauregard did so much after the war. he helped build schools for minority children and ca did so much work to bring the fabric of the community together. i mean, he is a bee loved person post war. so, yes, sins of slavery, horrific. an entire life span, maybe not so much with everyone. i agree with geraldo that painting every historical figure living in the south at the time and might have fought in the war brush of take him away, take him away in the middle of the night. puts it somewhere where we don't even know does not serve us all that well. i'm not a black person. i don't know how it feels to walk by one of these statues and maybe you are told this person hated you and didn't think you were a real person. i can't imagine that. but, i do think that people who especially worked for

reconstruction or forgiveness for bringing and healing the country, especially those people, i think we are on a real slippery slope if we start saying like, look, hofstra students were serious. they were serious at princeton about woodrow wilson a great internationalist. democrat hero. woodrow wilson has to go off the wilson center. this is what one of the hofstra students said on fox news the right to peaceful protest and assembly is at the core of our democracy. hofstra supports our student's rights to engage in peaceful demonstrations aboudemonstrationsabout issues o them. we look forward to civil discussion on the subject. that's what their statement was to fox news. it looks like groups of students mobilized at princeton university not successfully yet, but i think it's a matter of time before thomas jefferson gets put in that same place as robert e. lee who past american presidents including fdr hailed as one of the greatest generals we have ever had. one of the greatest

christians gentlemen we have ever had. that's fdr's commemoration of robert e. lee. this is a wild territory we are in. i don't know where it ends, guys. >> i would have to disagree with that. i think it's a slippery slope if we are continuing to put these individuals, these confederate generals in similar categories as thomas jefferson. they are not in similar categories as thomas jefferson. you have individuals who really founded our country, christian principles. you talk about robert e. lee, democrat who lived to destroy the fabric of our very country. yet. >> laura: he didn't own slaves his wife did though. >> african-americans see this as a problem because you see many that celebrate this. and not put it in its proper categorization. if you want to put it in a museum by all means. we can't erase our history. i understand that. certainly not. we shouldn't be celebrating it in public squares and allowing for people to think that there was nothing wrong with that. >> laura: should we remain washington, d.c.? >> you know, laura, just

going back to. >> laura: he owned slaves not too far from here. >> i get it. >> laura: thousands of acres of land. >> john c. calhoun in the 1950s was voted one of the five greatest senators in american history by an elite senate panel that included john f. kennedy. so senator kennedy was one of those who picked john calhoun as one of the great -- that was in the 1950s. my fear is that as con temporary more rays an more mo . there was a time in the beginning of this country beginning of reaction to reconstruction. beginning of jim crow where statues were erected specifically to stick it to black people, to let them know who was still boss. and who was subordinate. those statues, i think they

may have the facade is historic monument but the real purpose is a racialist. >> yeah. >> social statement rather than historic remembrance. i think you can look at them. it's easy to find their providence and history and determine how you feel about them based on that. >> laura: all right. guys. great segment. hillary clinton by the way has a brand new victim card to play. i will perform a tune for her on the world's tiniest violin right after this.

>> laura: welcome back to our special culture wars in the age of trump. if a cold shiver just inexplicably ran down your spine maybe you felt hillary clinton was coming. well she speaks out again this time about the backlash to constant election loss griping. >> i was really struck by how people said that to me, mostly people in the press for whatever reason like oh, you know, go away, go away. and i had one of the young people who works for me go back and do a bit of research they never said that to any man who was not elected? >> well, just tossing this out. maybe it's because no male failed presidential nominee in modern history has gone on never ending speaking tour blaming almost

everything imaginable for his loss. what or who does hillary clinton have left to scapegoat at this point? joining us are reaction katie pavlich editor of town hall.com along with antwon seawright democratic political consultant. all right. let's talk about this. hillary clinton has been on a book tour that never ends. it just goes on and on and on. it's like cher's farewell tour it keeps going on and on and on. her book was titled "what happened." antwon, here is what happened. hillary lost and forgot middle america. hillary is now blaming sexism when democrats say time to leave the stage, please. your reaction to this? >> well, my reaction is this: i think it's -- i think it's quite disgusting for the right to harp on what hillary clinton as a private citizen is doing in her private life. look, she did lose the election. actually, she lost the electoral college because 3 million more people voted for her than president donald trump. she lost the electoral

college. but she is in her private life. getting paid to do speeches. selling her book. and so why does the right wing want to harp on what hillary clinton says? i don't think hillary clinton gives two cents about what the right wing is doing. so leave her alone. let her be. hillary has served our country well first lady, secretary of state, u.s. senate, let her be hillary clinton her private life. >> laura: okay. as long as that's the way the left is going to treat the right. like we can just -- as long as we just don't talk about each other. >> laura, laura, laura what i don't remember is -- i don't remember anyone harping on whether it was joe biden, whether it was -- >> hk is -- i have only covered two major presidential elections, but i also remember al gore losing the election. instead of going out and talking about the reasons he lost unending, he actually found a pet project instead in global warming. hillary clinton could do the

same. the global warming argument actually worked for al gore for a number of years to help his party and the left. hillary clinton is stuck in this idea that everything is still about her. she captains move on. she is insulting women across the board. >> that's not true. >> let me finish my point. she is insulting women across the board. insulting voters in red states where senate democrats are vulnerable. and it's not the quote right wing conspiracy that you are citing that is talking about hillary clinton. it's hillary clinton talking about herself and it's people like senator dick durbin and senator claire mccaskill who are democratic senators saying hillary, nothing helpful. time to move along. >> laura: i think the "new york times" and "the washington post" reported unnamed democrats don't want to give their names were hoping that hillary would just just enjoy retirement. they need to no move on from the clintons. they had their run. they had the clinton foundation, they did all that stuff surrounding that. they had their run. it's time to go. now we are looking to the future for the democratic

party and they have kamala harris and a lot of interesting people. that's the point. it's not about sexism an antjuan they had their time and it didn't work. >> i agree with the fact that we have to move on from the 2016 election. there are a couple points. one, people actually want to know what happened. they want to know what happened in the election. so in the future democrats cannot perhaps make this trip up on the same thing that prevented them from winning the white house again. people want to know. i don't think there is nothing wrong with talking about what happened in the last election. you win or you learn. >> here is what happened. [talking at the same time] >> you win or you learn. she is talking about what she learned. >> she hasn't learned anything. >> great lesson for all of us. she talked about it in her book. >> laura: she said she drank chardonnay afterward. she used that joke 15 times. it's a joke the first time

she said it i drink a lot -- okay. great. >> again, if mitt romney. >> excuse me, in learning from your mistakes and helping the party move forward. but instead it's a pity party for her. in the meantime she is damaging democrats who are in shamables in trying to get their party back together by revamping this deplorables argument saying white women only vote based on what their husbands do. elitist is what democrats are trying get away from. they are pulling her back in. she is enfu helpful to them. >> that's the point republicans want to pivot to something to take their eyes off the most toxic president that has ever occupied the white house donald j. trump with the numbers in the tarng as they are. >> at least he is in the white house. >> and they want to use hillary clinton as that something else. >> laura: all right. well, his numbers are the highest they have been since last year and they are not too far away from where obama was in his first year in office at 46%.

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>> laura: before we go, this year's march madness has been chock-full of huge upsets and drama. but it's the cinderella run of loyola university chicago that may be the biggest surprise so far. the person stealing the spotlight hasn't been a player. it's been a team's chaplain and die-hard supporter, 98-year-old sister jean dolores schmidt, a.k.a. sister jeanne. she's been rooting for the team for six decades, since eisenhower was president, and has captured the hearts of fans and foes alike. sister jean may be the only nun to inspire an entire sports merchandise line. everything from t-shirts to socks and yes, even sister jean bobblehead's. "usa today" reports that sales

of sister jean merchandise has been through the roof leading up to tomorrow night's game. i love it. the 11 seed loyola chicago ramblers take on the three transient michigan wolverines in san antonio. great match up. today, at a press conference, sister jean provided wisdom and perspective, much needed, on the game that i really like. >> we have a little slogan that we say, worship, work, and win. so you need to do all those things. and if god -- god always hears, but maybe he thinks it's better for us to do the l instead of the w and we have to accept that. >> laura: wow. here's hoping sister jean and loyola's cinderella run continuous. that is all the time we have tonight on this special edition of "the ingraham angle" ." a blessed good friday and passover to all of you. i'll be off next week for easter break with my kids.

but fear not, we've got a great lineup of guest hosts to fill in for me and up next, it's shannon bream. have a wonderful easter and passover holiday weekend, everyone. good night from washington. ♪ ♪ >> shannon: hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i'm shannon bream in washington. california governor jerry brown sparking new outrage tonight with five more pardons for illegal aliens. each holding criminal records. including one convicted of inflicting bodily injury on a spouse or cohabitant. a threatening crime with the intent to terrorize. not the first time brown has pardoned criminal aliens but it comes at a critical moment for the democratic governor, because yet another county is thinking about resisting california resisting california as a sanctuary state policy. the rebelling against the resistance is growing. it comes amid a new poll