intelligence report. hopefully, fingers crossed, we get a better market day than we did today. i will see you tomorrow. ♪ >> dana: i am dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams, jesse watters and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five" ." no more deals on dreamers. president trump spending powder took part of easter sunday fuming on the immigration agend agenda. urging republicans to use the nuclear options for new border legislation. he said: daca is dead. >> mexico has got to help us on the border. a lot of people want to take advantage of daca. we are going to have two see. they had a great chance.

the democrats blew it. they had a great, great chance. we'll have to take a look. >> dana: sarah sanders followed up on fox news earlier. >> the president made multiple offers on daca. he wanted to see something get done. democrats refused to put something on the table or work with the president to get anything done. they wanted these daca recipients as political pawns. the president wanted to make a deal. he made two incredibly generous offers that went far and above even what the previous administration had done on daca. democrats still refused to make a deal. i think it's because we're getting close to an election. they don't want to see the president continue to win back like he has for the last year and a half. >> dana: jesse, i will go to first. there is a debate on who killed daca. i think the truth is it wasn't going to go anywhere before the midterm election. everyone is going to try to utilize it for their advantage. >> jesse: exactly. the president offered a very generous proposal.

crying chuck denied it. president obama put forth daca. he knew it was unconstitutional. he had said he wasn't allowed to do it as president. then he changed and did it. it was challenging the courts. it was about to get rejected, so the president says let's have congress deal with immigration law because that's the right place to deal with immigration law. he comes out and puts forth an arrangement which i thought was overly generous. 1.8 million amnesty in exchange for wall funding. that was rejected. the president try to make it a broader solution and say okay let's put things that the american vote want on the table. merit-based immigration system and doing away with the visa lottery and chain migration. 75% of the country believes that. that was rejected as well. now we are in a situation where the democrats are going to campaign in the midterms that the republicans hate hispanics

and the republicans will campaign as "the democrats want illegal immigration and open borders. will we will see which narrative wins. >> dana: dnc deputy chair keith ellison on what he thinks. >> back when trump ended the daca program in september, i knew he wasn't going to do anything about it. he never had a plan for trying to fix daca and he turned down several bipartisan deals. this was always a game, a trick, he was never arguing in good faith. >> dana: the president did put a pretty generous plan on the table for going beyond the daca kids to say up to 8 million he would be willing to do amnesty. it couldn't get done. is it fair to say that for the democrats this is an election issue that's better than solving the problem? >> juan: no. how i think the democrats would

like to crow that they have solved the problem, and saved the dreamers. what you see is the proposal the president put forward didn't have the support of enough republican votes in the senate to get past her republicans didn't back what the president -- no he didn't. >> dana: he had 36. >> juan: he didn't have 52 republicans behind him. what struck me was how little relationship there is between what the president was tweeting and reality. he said there is a caravan of people from honduras, guatemala trying to make their way to the u.s. border. to request asylum because they are fleeing from the crime and cast on there. the president says these people are trying to take advantage of the dreamers. they can't apply for dreamers status. there is no relationship. he makes it out if -- as if there is one. >> jesse: it is related. if you cross the border

illegally as a migrant seeking asylum, you will get special treatment and they will consider you for amnesty. >> juan: no, they will consider you for asylum. >> jesse: amnesty or asylum, you still get to stay in that country. >> juan: there's a huge difference. in order to qualify for daca, you have to have been in the country, come in the country at a young age. >> jesse: there is no argument that not having a border wall and the daca situation still in play does attract illegal immigration. >> dana: kimberly, if you are being technical, these people, children being across the border by the parents. but it's true there is a caravan. comes around every year. this is the fifth year this group is trying to do this. they tried to deter them. you are not going to get asylum. you might be able to try to apply for it. nikki haley was in honduras this past spring saying we want to help you solve the problem at the source but you're going to have to partner with us.

>> kimberly: isn't it reasonable? go to the source the problem and say we would like to partner with you, find a positive solution. nevertheless, you can't flagrantly violate the law and expect a lot to show you consideration at expense to others who are come porting themselves in an appropriate matter following the legal guidelines. nobody is trying to step on anybody's dreams or hopes or ability to get into this country. what people are against is illegal entry. the democrats missed a great opportunity to take advantage of the positioning. what he wanted to get the 25 billion for the enhanced border wall. instead they went ahead and passed on it for political reasons which is a disservice to everyone. 80% of what they wanted. he was saying listen, we have to slow it down about this in terms of chain migration, the lottery system. put some more specific standards and practices, little more structure to make sure the right people are getting in and it's

properly background vetted. that's not an unreasonable request. what's unreasonable is the obstructionists on both sides to be frank because people acted like political party pigs and they wanted everything they wanted on their plate without an ability or reason to compromise. this is what we have. the president didn't kill daca. i think the democrats killed it. people who were too entrenched in their own political beliefs and weren't willing to compromise. >> juan: wait a second. who killed daca? the president. >> kimberly: no, he did not. >> dana: sort of a tit for tat. basically it's not getting done before the election. >> greg: it is like "murder on the orient express." they all killed daca. okay, i ruined it for you. i love agatha christie. i believe this group who was helping the hunter and refugees were hired by trump.

here is a singular example that underlines the necessity for plan which is a wall with a door, which is what trump is talking about. weaving in a group of illegal immigrants is not a plan. a wall with a door is a plan. this validates his concerns over a week border. even mexico knows this is wrong. they deported tens of thousands of hondurans. yet it is "hey, come on through. back to the point about daca, who killed daca. i think the democrats sacrifice the people they have used as pawns for so long just a score against donald trump. this trump deal wouldn't solve everything but they didn't want the solution unless it involved a humiliation of trump. trump was giving 1.6 million. >> dana: he was willing to go up to 8 million. it's not the first time the democrats have done this. 2007, that deal was on the tabl

table. they blocked it then. >> greg: in business, if the deal gives you what you want, doesn't matter if you don't get along. you can get a deal with people you don't like. but in politics, there are no such rules. you can kill a deal and get rewarded for it because it rewards your side. there is no political consequences. >> jesse: to your point about the responsibility of both parties scuttling the deal, if you look at the republicans, a lot of those people in the pocket of big business, they want a certain amount of open borders because they want the cheap labor for the companies to come in. the democrats want open borders because it means more votes and more amnesty. meanwhile, the middle-class american workers are getting hosed. the body politic sufferers and our national security suffers. you have no idea who's coming in the country. the honduras, the border with mexico, 500 miles.

we are sending money to make sure they secure the border and root out the corruption and try to help the economy. right now at such a disaster, it is spilling over. no matter what we spend, we are still getting -- in 2016, we stopped 200,000 central american illegal immigrants crossing through mexico into the united states. that's a lot of people. >> dana: one of the reasons i look at the honduras trip nikki haley talk, there were several areas. one was combating drugs and gains. -- drugs and gangs. economic ties. but remember it was honduras and guatemala, two of the only countries that supported the president on his push to move the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. >> juan: i wanted to jump in and say jesse, we have hit a 47-year low in terms of people crossing the border. u.n. president trump want to, i

think, create elon musk rhetori rhetoric. >> jesse: juan. 300,000 they are catching. >> juan: the numbers, the percentages, this is a 47-year low. >> jesse: trump 'fee as rhetoric. >> juan: the second thing is these people are coming seeking asylum. as dana was describing come of the situation in honduras, this is a humanitarian crisis. we as americans have created a system that allows people to apply for asylum. >> greg: you are absolutely right. people should apply. but just because they are closer to us isn't fair. there's plenty of people who should be in front of them who happen not to be on our borders. i could go through them. we know where they are. i came up with an idea for a cnn town hall. not for fox news but cnn.

why, when you talk about these things going on in the world, why is his approval rating still moving up? that is worth discussing. why is it? progress in north korea, because of immigration, because of being tough on china? second amendment? collusion theory dying. is it terror, is it a stormy backlash. these variables exist. it kind of makes you think, he might be doing a pretty good jo good job. >> juan: do you know why his numbers --dash record number. >> greg: i knew your head would explode. i think a lot of this has to do with people saying he is the president. we are patriots.

>> kimberly: all of a sudden that happened? they woke up? patriotism. 50%. >> dana: the gallup poll today had him at 39. i want to give juan a little cover. >> greg: the point i am trying to make is that everyone of these issues people are throwing out there has a rebound effect and that's what's happening. americans are looking at this and they are looking at the assumptions trump makes witches i'm going to be tough on immigration, law and order. they like it. all these things are going on, collusion, stormy, they are creating a backlash and he's up at 50%. >> dana: basketball legend charles barkley is angry with president trump and his supporters. you're going to hear why next. , i'm all-business when i travel... even when i travel...

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fault. i think he reached a demographic that won't look in the mirror that says "my life sucks because of me." he came right after president obama, and there were some people who are like wow, we've got a black president. they are not happy with that. >> jesse: charles barkley is a basketball player. he played for the 76ers and the phoenix suns. that is the game where you shoot the ball. >> dana: got it. >> jesse: one of the biggest mistakes you can make when making political analysis, trust me, i know what i'm talking about. you never go after a candidate's supporters. >> kimberly: did you learn a lot from that, dana? >> dana: i think life is too short to be mad at people who made a choice based on -- it's not like we didn't litigate the 2016 campaign for two years leading up to it. people were clear eyed about the decision. they might have decided i can't vote for her. i'm going to give him a shot.

why not? i try to listen to them, though. because i feel the resentment. i hear it. i don't feel it personally. there is a resentment there that i think is unfortunately pulling people too far apart. hillary clinton used that lesson when she said the word deplorable. she was denigrating the entire group of people. it's not helpful. >> jesse: greg, trump flipped 217 counties that went for obama in 2012. does that all of a sudden weight people not racist? >> greg: it is an irrational comment for him to make. if barkley says something you hate, wait 5 minutes and he will say something you love. even in that tirade, he actually said some things that were pretty good, about the russians, the stormy thing. he is -- he talked about looking in the mirror. he should look in the mirror

because he's talking about himself. he is just like trump. he's an opinionated trash talker. he has run into trouble in the past. he has considered entertaining a career in politics. he would be another trump. he is upset about trump tweeting? charles won't keep his mouth shut if he's president. charles is probably in the back of his head thinking, man, i could have done this. i have a pass but trump proved a pass doesn't matter. i could have been governor of a large state or ran for president, which may happen, charles. >> jesse: he is a very authentically authentic and likable guy. >> you don't think the russian thing is an issue? >> i do not. i think it's probably true, but i am pretty sure in the election, state, local, nationa

national, somebody can get some dirt on somebody if they wanted to. >> you think it's a distraction? >> it's definitely a distraction. we've spent the last year talking about russia every slow day. now we have stormy. now we've got another girl. i am sitting there saying, when are we going to help the people? >> jesse: juan, charles makes a good point. >> juan: i thought that was the best point he made. to me, the idea that you need to pay attention. he mentioned schools, puerto rico. the whole idea that even daca, he mentioned, we should do something to help the dreamers. i think on that level, let's really help people. that's what he is saying, it's the purpose of government. he things we are not doing that. i guess that means, since trump's president, trump isn't doing it. what struck me was when we are in the midst of culture wars on some level. nobody goes to charles barkley for political expertise.

he is endorsing doug jones in alabama. has a guy who at one point thought about running for governor in alabama as a republican. i think people say well, it's charles barkley, a celebrity. we like to hear what our celebrities think. why we take it to heart as oh, boy, this is big news, i don't know. he is much more than a basketball player or former basketball player at this point. i think these may be the preeminent basketball analyst in the country. not only does the nba but the ncaa, and he's very popular. i think it was interesting but i don't know that it's of any big consequence. >> jesse: people like listening to sir charles, kimberly. he has always said interesting things about politics. pretty in touch with the people. >> juan: he said a few things in there, like halloween candy. there is some in there, i love it. candy corn. peeps. and then there's that almond joy, mounds thing, i don't like

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♪ >> kimberly: with the march for our lives a couple weeks ago. on friday, 75 students at a central florida high school walked out of class in support of gun rights and the second amendment. here is one of the students. >> it was important to me because the other walkout that happened on march 14 for the parkland students turned political. big support for gun control. personally, i don't believe that gun-control is the best idea. everyone has the right to have their own opinion, and i believe our right should have been expressed. in the beginning, it was a very big risk to step up and do this. it took a lot of fight with our school to get them to approve it and support us. in the end, they did support us. >> kimberly: it's good to hear different viewpoints, isn't it, on the subject? >> greg: the media praise for

the earlier protest was portrayed as independent of ideology. people came forth to say isn't it great teenagers are going out there and they care about something? that's good. if that's the case, he should have equal praise for this. if you are independent of ideology, you should say there are kids out there talking about gun control. kids talking about gun rights. isn't it great all these kids are out there? i don't think you're going to see that in the media. on a personal note, i am very, very skeptical of all teenage activism because i was one. i worked on the nuclear freeze. when i was in high school, i did it for extra credit. i got signatures to have been nuclear weapons from being transported to california. i know i wasn't thinking about it clearly. i known that i was naive and i was doing it for romantic and extra credit purposes. >> jesse: trying to get the girl. nuclear freeze. >> greg: nuclear freeze and gun-control arguments at the same in the sense you are saying

these weapons are for killing. therefore they are wrong. that is naive. when you grow up, you realize they exist primarily to protect you with the risk factored in. >> kimberly: to prevent war. >> greg: and to protect your house. >> kimberly: why we have jails on the justice system. dana, what do you make of it? >> dana: i love civics education and studying the constitution sounds like a good idea. you can study it and disagree with it. i loved listening to her because she's obviously thought it through. they were able to get their school to agree. they had to persuade them based on some sort of logic. what i would recommend is that the debating association, they choose a new topic every semester for students. for the high school debate teams. i think gun-control or the second amendment should be the one they do next year. let the kids argue it. when you are on the debate team, you don't know if you have to argue for or con.

you have to be well-versed in both and then you make a decision. it would be a useful exercise and i would love to hear what they have to say. >> kimberly: good idea. helpful hints from dana. >> jesse: i support both walkouts. one because if i was in high school, i would walk out divided have to be in class and two, you want kids to be civic minded. that's a good thing. >> kimberly: you want them to buy your future book. >> dana: and come to your party. >> jesse: it's so sad. i will take anybody. i would say i think the kids that walked out recently, i think it shows more bravery because it was very easy to walk out a couple weeks ago. but to walk out on a pro second amendment platform takes a lot more guts. here's why. student in the first walkout, some were physically assaulted for holding up signs supporting the second amendment. one kid was suspended for staying inside the classroom. other kids were sent home because they didn't want to participate. with that said, scott israel is

the real villain here. we -- we have been over at 1,000 times. any day now therefore florida department of law enforcement is going to come back with its decision into what went wrong and he may be fired or suspended. rick scott has taken action with the florida legislature. they have raised the legal limit for gun purchases to 21. you have to wait three days before you purchase a long gun. they banned the sale and possession of bump stocks. >> kimberly: he has been proactive about it. right from the beginning. i foresee in the future, a greg monologue on sheriff israel. wait for it. >> juan: everything you just outlined. 75 students opposed. they are opposed to what a republican governor in florida has to do in terms of his response one has taken place at parkland. i think what you're seeing here is really an effort -- they are

only 75 versus hundreds of thousands around the country. >> greg: they are in the minority. >> juan: polls show overwhelming support for gun control legislation including background checks. i think what you are seeing is the right thing. we can produce some students who can march out because they understand the power of the students who went through the shooting at parkland. >> greg: you are saying it was controlled by the right? >> juan: the sight of so many "make america great" hats again. >> greg: but this didn't happen with other protests. >> juan: people came into support but i think what you see in the students, clear support not only for trump but they used the kind of language that would make you think gosh. i think these people being somehow promoted or coached or -- >> jesse: oh, juan.

>> greg: it was more transparent and the other protests because they were so many adults and celebrities involved, so many groups behind them. >> kimberly: the majority of people marching and walking out, being not teenagers but over that age. it's unbelievable. now that it's on the other side, everybody says oh, no. >> juan: 75? >> jesse: sometimes doing the right thing is unpopular. >> juan: i concedes very unpopular here. >> kimberly: what does the mainstream media have against fair and balanced news? greg breaks it down next. this is a story about mail and packages. and it's also a story about people and while we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, we never forget... that your business is our business the united states postal service.

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you probably missed this idiotic story on sunday. in a nutshell, anchors delivered a message that promise diligence in the fake news era. it's what you would call a mission statement. someone compiled the scripted missives and it was hilarious. >> the sharing of biased -- >> false news has become all too common on social media. more alarming... media outlets publishing the same things without checking facts first. pushing their own personal bias and agenda. >> this is extremely dangerous to our democracy. >> greg: oh, my they were all saying the exact same thing. who does that remind you of? hollywood, mainstream media, late-night comics? yet these hypocrites wind these talking points from chuck schumer, they are mad over

this? shut up. read the actual script and what do you find? nothing in there that is pro-or negative trump, nothing about democrats or republicans. instead you will find a call for balanced journalism, concern over unverifiable stories on social media, and a criticism of biased broadcasting in general. that sounds pretty healthy to me. yet our nations hall monitor clutched his paroles. >> these anchors in these markets are required to read the script, it's attacking fake news. really what it's doing is, it is kind of like the fox "fair and balanced slogan. it's a way of saying we are fair and everyone else is biased, taking a page out of trump's playbook. >> greg: given the cnn obsession over stormy, maybe you want to tape it on the fridge. how could it be worse than cnn's mission statement? >> this is an apple. some people might try to tell you it's a banana. they might scream banana,

banana, banana over and over and over again. they might put banana in all caps. you might even start to believe this is a banana. but it's not. this is an apple. >> greg: who was high on mushrooms when they wrote that? that's not the only media mouth freaking out. why was the howling media triggered? maybe they feel threatened. people are saying what they are finally about finally. maybe this is what angry people do on easter sunday. that's even more depressing. kimberly come as a mission statement, what was so outrageous about that and the fact that they read it? it was a great audiovisual putting it together. >> kimberly: how they packaged it to put it together to make it sound like groupthink. very much like a cult or something like everyone drink the kool-aid. perfect packet mixture

combination, powder and water for a delightful, delectable thirst quenching treat. if you look at it and examine it, you see it is journalists trying to do their job. i am reminded in the juxtaposition of how good it is come with a look at the local clips. we really do have the best people. i have to say. well done. >> greg: jimmy kimmel tweeted that it's a threat to democracy or something. >> dana: you have to remember who it is coming from. this is sinclair, a group working on their merger. they want to be competitive. every news organization markets themselves as being the source for truth, the source for the best information, the one you can trust the most. look across all media. they are all saying that. some do it better than others. i think there's a lot of consternation about the sinclair group because they are taking over in local media markets that aren't necessarily used to

hearing that type of thing, so it does sound weird when it's all in lockstep. contrast that with the new media campaign fox news is doing, it's super sophisticated and very different. the thing that was different about it for my perspective is there was no script. we went in there not knowing what we're going to be asked or what we were going to say. maybe he thought about it a little bit. all of it was very spontaneous and authenticity is what viewers are looking for. >> kimberly: showed up with a few different colored outfits. the rest was, let it fly. >> dana: it is different and modern. >> kimberly: nobody was telling us, as every day, no one tells us what to say or do or think. it's genuinely authentic and it shows in the pew research. >> greg: i still think this is unfair. it's a mission statement they read and that's what you do. >> jesse: they rated because they can't afford to spend the money that fox spends on a nice

promotional campaign. that's fine. they don't have the budget so they did what they did. it's the same thing as a cnn promo come as you said. cnn is threatened by it because they know this sinclair piece was targeting a place like cnn. this brings me back to the fake news awards. let's remind everybody. cnn, don jr. and wikileaks, falls. the story about russia, falls. the fake story about feeding the fish, false. what did they have in common? they are fake news from the liberal mainstream media and they were all done in order to hurt president trump. when you combine that with the fact that 90% of d.c. journalists are democrats and 90% of the nightly evening news from the networks are against donald trump, people understand in this country that the mainstream media is biased, and they calculate that when they watch the news. >> greg: last word, juan. >> juan: it is telling the

donald trump immediately defended sinclair. i think that indicates to me how political this was. you can say it was a mission statement from a corporate owner but it's a corporate owner that really controls a lot of local media. i think the understanding people have when they, if they tune in to us, they say it's national media and i understand the roles, left and right. when they turn on their local news to learn about tax assessments in the school board, think they are surprised that this kind of lockstep lack of independence would exist. i think that's the power here. this is not independent anymore. your local news is now under control of somebody who is pro-trump. trump is defending them because the message, although you see it as not having any bias, it fits the trump message perfectly witches you are being assaulted by fake news that's unfriendly to me and not to be believed. now coming in your local news, people see this as insidious. >> greg: i think it fits the fox news message, fair and balanced. that's all they were saying.

i would urge people to read the actual transcript. when you look at the video, all you see in here are the sounds. no one is actually listening. i think if you read it, it's not political at all. it is not trump. remember, trump came after fair and balanced. >> juan: you have to ask people to read at in the context. they will say it's no big deal. >> greg: coming up, kellyanne conway response to allegations she is the number one leaker in the white house. just got rescheduled - for today. amanda needs right at home. our customized care plans provide as much - or as little help - as her mom requires. whether it's a ride to the doctor or help around the house. oh, of course! tom, i am really sorry. i've gotta go. look, call right at home. get the right care. right at home.

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♪ >> juan: a new book on the trump white house making some headlines. this one written by ron kessler who claims that he knows where the leaks are coming from. kellyanne conway. >> i know white house aides have seen texts she has sent to other journalists dissing her colleagues, leaking material. if you wonder why there are so many leaks out of the white house, one reason is kellyanne is the number one leaker. >> juan: fox asked ms. conway for her response. >> he knows who the lakers on

liars have been. leaker's gate great press. one day i will have my say. >> juan: dana, what do you think? >> dana: she is right. the book she writes is the one everyone is going to want to read. i think she has indicated there was somebody at the white house who is no longer there who she thinks was the leaker. my experiences people who are the leakers are the one who complained about it first saying oh, my gosh. did you see this leak? yeah, you are the leaker. she doesn't seem like the one who did that. i have never been the recipient of any white house leaks, so i don't know. >> juan: you would have been the leaker. [laughter] >> dana: communications people don't leak. you have to clean up the mess of everybody else. >> juan: i don't think that's true. >> dana: really? >> juan: you are telling me white house press secretaries don't leak? >> juan: i can personally attest to it. >> dana: not me.

>> juan: no, not you. i know ron kessler. he is a terrific reporter. a big trump supporter, he has gone to mar-a-lago with trump. here he is attacking kellyanne. >> jesse: i am confused by it. he is a good author. a lot of the times the books are salacious and gossipy. but he's a good author and he does sell a lot of books. ever know what to think of it. i have seen kellyanne is a straight shooter and she is supported by the president. one if not the best and most articulate defender of the president. i don't think she is the leaker. i don't know that for a fact but i know if dana was to leak, she would not leak to you, juan. never. >> dana: i would be leaking to jesse watters. >> kimberly: kellyanne is going to be on watters' world? the truth teller. everybody knows who the leakers are, were, in the white house.

kellyanne not one of them. i think when she has her day to be able to tell the truth about what went on there, she is going to have a very revealing and not surprising story to tell. in terms of what transpired there. i have never known her to leak, to do anything like that. i know other people who have, that's for sure. >> juan: greg, the last thing i would say is that according to kessler, ivanka and jerrod are problems. that's what kessler writes. and that they were involved with firing comey and hiring scaramucci. >> greg: i don't think kellyanne is the leaker. she is a human being. this white house is not a perfect white house. it is a human being white house. people talk and complain and vent. i don't think anybody is actually leaking. they are venting. people hear it. i have an idea forests segment.

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this year's big winner across the nation as a 17-year-old from houston, michael brown. he got into stanford but that is just 1 of 20 schools that accept of the young man and he got into all of those schools and also got full scholarships to all of them. his mom, who was a counselor, says her dreams have come true. >> dana: that is awesome. jesse? >> jesse: stanford was my safety school. [laughter] the guy in sarasota, we'll call him a florida man, went to go for a swim around when i did in his backyard and guess what he found, an 11-foot alligator swimming in his pool in florida. he called some people, they said to get out of the pool, and he was safe. look at that thing. >> dana: that's a big thing. >> kimberly: look at how much fun it was having. >> greg: first, if you go to berkeley, you got to start making shirts that say "stanford was my safety school." [laughter] i hate these people! if you are in a meeting, and hr

meeting, or its traffic school, records preservation training, at the end of the meeting, someone says, "does anybody have any questions," don't ask a question. nobody likes the person that asked a question especially when it's nice outside or at the end of the day, if you have a question, go on google. find out that question, answer that question. >> dana: a good point. everyone should listen to that. people who know jasper know he likes to look for fish. if you follow me on instagram, every day is fishing, everywhere he can. this weekend, not only was it easter yesterday, but jasper caught a fish. a big one. the other thing is, it was april fools and i got so many people on that. he didn't catch the fish. don't forget, let me tell you about jasper, it comes out in paperback tomorrow. >> kimberly: very, very cute. okay, so a little bit of damp weather was no match for this year's 140th annual white house easter egg roll.

nearly 3,030,000 adults and children joined the first lady,, betsy devos, kellyanne conway were among the future leaders. a great event. "special report" is up next. >> bret: does greg have any questions? [laughter] shots fired in the looming trade war between the u.s. and china, sending wall street into another nosedive. president trump rips mexico for allowing he says immigrant caravans to approach the southern border. we'll get a live response from the mexican ambassador to the u.s. and what major american city confiscates it legally owned guns under the terms of a controversial new law. this is "special report." ♪ good evening and welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. president trump was calling out mexico over what he says it's indifference to a