condolences are with the entire bush family and many thanks for her many years of service to this country. former first lady barbara bush died today at the age of 92. that is all the time we have left. we will always be fair and balanced. laura and grandma standing by in washington tonight. all right, the heat caused back to you starting tomorrow. >> laura: i don't need any more heat, hot enough, sean. thank you so much. great show tonight, as always. thank you, sean, we, we'll continue the conversation about the life of barbara bush and a lot more. good evening from washington. i'm laura ingraham and mrs. "the ingraham angle." we begin with continuing coverage of the passing of first lady barbara bush. the former first lady died today at her home in houston, as sean said, at age 92. she was one of only two woman in u.s. history to be both the mother and the wife of a u.s. president. barbara bush was special and so many other ways. she was down to earth and also dignified. she was elegant. she was admired, she was loved

by americans and politicians on both sides of the aisle, which doesn't seem possible today. tributes are pouring in from family, friends, and others, whose lives she touched her. joining us tonight for a look at the legacy of this remarkably gracious and kind woman are bret baier, newt gingrich, karl rove, and brit hume. it is great to see all of you tonight on this at night. i want to start with you, karl rove. what a life, what a lady. the tributes from everybody, from bill clinton to foreign leaders, democrats, liberals, conservatives, and with today's politics, it is kind of refreshing all over again to hear how many people loved her so much. >> a rather fermentable presence. a woman of great character, of a for enormous values. there is going to be a big welcome party for her. but i'm sure the authorities in heaven are making sure that everybody's on their best behavior because mrs. bush had

an expectation that you are capable of doing good things and she would let you know if she felt you were -- he could do a little bit more to achieve what she thought was possible. i met her when i was 22 and i have -- a smile that could light up the room. a warmth, a respect for everyone, fun to be around, brash, smart, really smart, and capable of, many a time i saw her needle pointing and you would think that she would focused on the needle pointing and then she would inject into the conversation and you knew she had been paying attention to every single word that you had been saying. i was supposed to have lunch with them two weeks ago today and she went into the hospital on monday. she was a remarkable presence and think about it, advisor to a president, husband, her husband, whom she loved dearly, met him when she was 16, fell in love

with him, married, together for nearly 76 cleared, married for 73, i mean really remarkable. hard to match up that. >> laura: newt gingrich, one of the great things about her, there are so many great things about her, is she doesn't have a lot of pretense. she was commenting first about becoming the vice president wife, she said a lot of fat, white haired ladies who are wrinkled are tickled pink about my ascending to this role. she is just so fun. she didn't dye her hair, get a face-lift. she's like, i am who i am. that is so refreshing today. i use the word refreshing, but i love it. >> at one point she described herself as the nation's grandmother. and i think at that sort of captured it. and at that point, i think she had 25-point oh or higher approval rating than her husband. we were talking earlier tonight,

what a remarkable couple, and karl called it right. she was ferocious. she was pleasant, she was nice, but in terms of both her husband and her sons, in terms of job's campaign, george ws campaign, there was no question she was going to go all out and reach everyone she could, a remarkable american family. >> first of all, that love affair was really a lot of who she was. love affair with hw bush, 41, and with her family. today, we are told that h&w held her hand all day long next to her and that she was surrounded by family and he was right next to her when she left the earth. i think you are seeing this family rally around each other. it was a big part of their life to be together. she said that it was the most important thing in her life and she gave a lot of commencement

addresses. one of them at wesley college said "at the end of your life, you will never regret not having passed one more test, not winning one more verdict or not closing one more deal, you will regret time not spent with your husband, a child, friend, or a parent." >> laura: that is for sure. we all think that in our lives, it goes by really fast. we actually have another moment from that same address at wellesley college, brit hume, i want you to react to this. let's watch. >> i want to offer a new legend, the winner of the hoop race will be the first to realize her dream, not society's dream her own personal dream. who knows, somewhere out in this audience, may even be someone who will one day follow in my footsteps and preside over the white house as the president's spouse i wish him well. >> laura: we cut to the crowd there but the crowd, brit, went crazy. they ended up loving it.

there was controversy, though, about her appearing. compared to what it was like today, that was 1990, a republican goes to a college today, it is a different reception. they ended up loving her there. >> she was supplement people i think -- it wasn't that she was so cuddly. she whirled wasn't cuddly. she was warm and friendly and she was outgoing, but she had standards. and you knew when you are around her. i always felt that i better be on my best behavior around her. she used to say apropos of her devotion to family, she used to say, what happens at your house is more important and what happens at the white house. not a few often expressed but one that at the time i think was taken while and was very much like her. she was very focused on family, her family and particular, family values, which may have fallen out of favor but they never did with her. >> laura: at one point, she

said i am worried about parents who don't parents. the simple things that kind of stay with you. karl, there was another moment where she was talking about, among the professional things that she did or things that as first lady was her literacy initiative that really took hold during george ws term. let's watch. >> i decided that i wanted to do something that would help george, that would help the most americans possible, without costing the government huge amounts of money. >> you can go to hospital and read to children. you can do that. i don't think many people think me for the literacy. >> laura: she got a little bit annoyed by that. you don't blame her. it's in every state, she raised tens of millions of dollars, famous authors like newt gingrich and bret baier, to go and speak, she said i will never pay you, you're doing it for free, and they said, you bet i will do it for free, no

problem. i love the literacy. i think she does not get enough credit for that. and it's family literacy that she says holds families together. faith, family, literacy, reading together. >> absolutely right. this was a great passion for her. the focus was, it is your responsibility as a parent or a friend or family member to help someone else learn to love to read. and to do so at an early age. and i think it's remarkable even today, the effort goes on and a huge fashion. i want to talk, though, quickly about one other thing. you may remember that moment when she was, the first lady of the united states, when she went to the hospital in washington and held an aids baby. this was a lot of time when people thought people thought ae communicated by simile touching someone. a lot of these babies were lacking contact. she went and did that because

she wanted to set an example and make it clear that this is one of the things, this woman, she may have worn fake pearls and she may have had gray hair, but she had a respect for every single human being and which she came in contact and expected other people to have that same mutual respect for every one of god's creatures and every one of god's people. i thought it was a powerful moment when she did that, and emblematic of this great and noble woman who served our country. she was very patriotic. she loved america deeply, and cherished the great values that we haven't our freedoms and wanted others to enjoy and respect in this world. >> laura: she was part of the greatest generation. she and george h.w. bush. >> the whole story of a romance, really deciding to get married and then him going off to war, the youngest pilots in world war ii shot down, luckily saved by an american submarine. there's a lot to their whole lifetime. moving to texas, which back then, for them, was a pretty radical move. running for congress, serving as

head of the cia, everywhere he went, she went. >> their house in midland texas, if you've ever been there, is a very modest, it is paper thin walls, and at one point they were living next door to the local prostitute with whom they share different door. >> they don't usually do that. the people who worked for the bushes loved them. her secret service name was tranquility, her coat name. she had a certain touch, as brit said, she could be fiery and sharp. she really loved privacy. when she left, she was hurt in '92, she told the story that she was in a store and some lady came up and said, aren't you barbara bush, she said, no, she's much older than me.

>> laura: [laughs] let's end with brit hume. there was a moment during the 2016 campaign, we were just howling out earlier, my producers, because mrs. bush was talking about what the country needs at this point. let's watch. >> do you think there is room for another bush in the white house? >> i think this is a great american country, great country. and if we can't find more than two or three families to run for high office, that's silly. >> laura: [laughs] we have jeb bush running, and he's like, what is going on here? hilarious. >> she was later to change your view of that if you may recall. i think, and all of this, we should have a particularly thought for george w. bush nights. when i met him and covered his campaign back in 1980, they had been married already for 35 years. this marriage has gone on, for

what, 72, 73 years. whenever they were together, as others have noted, and recent years in particular, they were always holding hands. one of the great marriages of our time. here he is, as late as he is in his life, having to endure this loss, we've all lost something tonight but him most of all. god bless and pray >> laura: great way to end at. broken hearts across this country tonight. thank you so much for your reflections. tonight "angle" is next on the left more on the rule of law. and newt will join us for the sanctuary state madness andgh governor jerry brown who was in washington today. don't go away.

♪ >> laura: the desperate, lawless democrats. that is the focus of tonight "angle." ♪ my friends across the political aisle are cheering the supreme court's 574 decision today that struck down on vagueness grounds, a federal immigration statute that trigged deportation for individuals convicted of violent crimes. the illegal alien in the case had been arrested for burglary, which both the obama and trump doj argued should trigger deportation. why? the defendant's conduct posed a significant risk of violence. well of neil gorsuch, the newest justice of the court, applied a textual list approach in deciding to join the liberal justices in the majority. justices roberts, thomas, alito, and kennedy dissented on grounds that the statute's language was plenty clear. but look, setting aside which theory of statutory

interpretation is most faithful to the constitution, do any of you wonder why this is an issue at all? i mean, look, anyone here illegally, except that daca people, is potentially a deportable alien under current law. in other words, if you don't have permission to be here, the home. maybe the government can't deport 12 million people. we hear that all the time. but a search of may come they could report a lot if they wanted to. democrats, however, are not interested in enforcing the law. instead, they are interested in growing their voter rolls. and the democrats, they don't even recognize victims of illegal alien crimes. remember, according to reports, jamil shaw's father said he never received a call from president obama after he lost his son. but remember, he found time, president obama, to call that other victim, but i digress.

governor jerry "mr. sanctuary" brown was in washington today and he was asked about the cities in california rejecting his sanctuary policy. remember, the sanctuary laws for beta state and local police agencies from even notifying the federal government when incarcerated illegals are about to be released onto the streets. >> the leaders of these local communities, for many years to sheriffs, are saying that your s the rights of criminal illegal aliens over the rights and the safety of these communities. your response? >> absolutely false. i would like to see a scintilla of evidence of support that outlandish box proposition. >> that's not a fox proposition. >> i think fox news exploits this issue. we have criminals that do horrible things all the time. which ones may be documented and which ones aren't, other guys will look at that. we have a very strong law enforcement community.

i think the scapegoat of the immigrants by these very biased stories, -- >> with all due respect -- >> i want to protect people. for you to say that we don't care about victims is really troubling. >> laura: "with all due respect," some of your own county officials are saying your policies don't seem to care about victims past or future. just yesterday, los alamitos voted 4-want to align themselves with the trump administration and opposing brown sanctuary state policy. today, san diego county voted to do the same. wow. how long can jerry brown allow this to go on? he is carrying his date -- he's tearing his date apart and he's endangering the citizens. now brown is waffling on her response --

governor moonbeam says he is willing to send 400 troops, so long as they have nothing to do with immigration enforcement. where they build schools? regardless of the threat they might present to the citizens of california, illegals, they are always welcome, so long as the liberals are in charge there. this is california democratic congressman brad sherman, who was with me on the "angle" a few weeks ago. >> you have more crime on california then wyoming because you have more people in california. >> laura: how are you going to tell the american people tonight that if -- because california wants to be sanctuary, fugitive state, we have to sacrifice a certain number of americans for this utopian idea that borders are pointless? >> the fact is, if you want to less crime, moved to the cayman islands. they've got so few people there, you can go a whole week without a violent crime. >> laura: that is their

argument? if you want to be safe from illegals, moved to the cayman islands? my friends, this is madness. as i often say, if enforcing our immigration laws spares one american from death or rape or theft or abuse, it's worth it, even in california. and that is the "angle" ." joining us now from reaction as newt gingrich, former speaker of the house and the creator of the new defending america course, which seems entirely appropriate for the subject matter at hand. newt gingrich, your reaction to this? i mean, that line from sherman, "if you want to be safe, moved to the cayman islands," that is basically all they have left, identity politics or that kind of thing. >> i was talking with kevin mccarthy, the republican majority leader from bakersfield, he made the comment, talking about john cox's candidacy for governor, mccarthy said if you combine sanctuary cities with the tax

gasoline increase, you suddenly haven't california the kind of ferment that they had with prop3 that led to reagan. that is what you've seen happen. people in normal, everyday cities are rebelling. sheriffs are saying the amount of a state law. entire counties are opting out. i think it's a good debate. let's just take ms-13, which is in el salvador in gain, spread all across america, extraordinarily violent. do you look in fairfax county for example, virginia, the number of additional murders, rapes, attacks, if democrats want to be the party that protects the rights of ms-13, i think that's a great fall campaign issue. >> laura: you are a great storyteller. republicans sometimes aren't great storytellers. i have talked to friends about this. republicans are always numbers, charts, percentages, gdp, but the story of kate steinle, jamil

shaw, donald trump understood that the stories of real people are what is going to cut through the clutter. >> it's a combination of, here's a story, and here's the larger meaning. bringing the two of them together. that is where republicans very often come up here with interesting things but no hook, nothing to make it real. that is why for example eyesight ms-13 because it is so demonstrably a violent gang, there is no justification for tolerating any ms-13 member being in the united states. >> laura: let's talk about kevin mccarthy for a moment. he looks like he has the inside shot to be the next speaker of the house. it's kind of a rocky relationship over the years with conservatives, he's never come on the show, we've invited to a many times. he doesn't go on conservative talk radio. neither did john boehner. neither did jeff flake. there is kind of a pattern

there. but what about him? is developed a good relationship with president trump. >> i think mccarthy is very dedicated to try to enact the presidents program. i think he understands, he put out a lot of his own resources into getting the ballot initiative in repealing the gas tax on the ballot in california. it will make it a big issue in november. i think that mccarthy is one of those guys who, in essence, is a little but risk avoiding. i know it's a shock to you but coming on a show like this, if you are a senior leader, there is a certain risk. >> laura: newt, you didn't shy away when you are speaker of the house. you could actually answer a question. if you can't withstand questions on "the ingraham angle," what will you do on the liberal shows where they will smash you on the head every time? i don't get it. you have to be able to talk to the conservative audience about your policies. trump would go everywhere and

anywhere, so what reagan. >> my guess is that you will see mccarthy on talk radio -- >> laura: he needs us now. where will he be in the morning? the morning after. >> he said in a new role. the morning after, he'll be helping donald trump passed his agenda. >> laura: i want to talk about a couple of other things. the stormy daniels obsession by the american media. i mean, even meghan mccain, who sometimes is a little moderate but she is an person, she is on "w," she is even fed up. let's watch. >> it seems like a publicity stunt on some level. i think yesterday, it seemed a little like you were just trying to get attention, which i understand that you are being sued by our president but it doesn't seem like you are benefiting a lot. you've got on your make america horny tour, i'm sure you're

making a lot of money. i had entered your name before this and now you are literally live on "the view" giving an entire information. it has been beneficial for your career. >> of course it has. in the age of the kardashians, daniels represents one of the weirder subsets. that is what we have become as a country. the former senator who wrote a brilliant essay, that is what we have done. we've gotten to a point where the elite media, if she was trying to talk about somebody on the left, the elite media wouldn't cover it at all. the elite media has proven, as they are with comey this week, if you want to be anti-trump, they will give you all the time they possibly can. >> laura: if you are a republican who is anti-trump, you can get a column in "the new york times," a contributor -- they are on the island of misfi misfit. >> they will presently be -- >> laura: big news that broke

tonight, newt, i want to get your take on this issue. big bombshell news. fox news now confirming that cia director and secretary of state nominee mike pompeo made a top-secret trip to north korea over the easter weekend when he met dictator kim jong un. purpose of the speech -- the appearance was to prepare for direct tops between trump and kim and a possible upcoming meeting. your reaction to this news? this is wild. >> let's start with objective reality. he graduated first at west point, harvard law school. he is it an extraordinarily smart guy -- >> laura: underachiever. >> the president has said flatly if he can find a way to talk and not fight a war, he wants to get to a deal. i think they have shaken my dictatorship so badly, they may get to a deal. that would be a historic achievement. >> laura: newt, they were calling the president a warmonger, that he was going to start world war iii. all the other networks, a couple of months ago, he was bringing us to the brink of nuclear war,

they were going to invoke a constitutional amendment where they would go in and remove him from office because we were going to go to war. i mean, this was nonstop on television. now we could have this incredible breakthrough. this is amazing. think of this is my prediction. they reach an agreement. kim jong un gives up all of his nuclear weapons. the first report in the elite media will be "an act of statesmanship, kim jong un overcame his resistance to donald trump and decided he would go ahead and take the risk for peace anyway." >> laura: it will somehow be anti-trump. >> it will somehow be an anti-trump moment. >> laura: one other thing i'm dying to talk to you about of money. but what comey has been saying on the book to her, so many things we could get into. specifically, let's talk about what he said today about scooter libby. i think we have it. >> at an attack on the rule of law. there is a reason president george w. bush before whom scooter libby worked, refused to pardon him after looking at all the facts on the

case, it's an overwhelming case, there is no reason that's consistent with justice to pardon him, so it's an attack on the rule of law. >> spent a lot of time looking at this, i'm a friend of scooter libby, i lived through that. if there is nothing more despicably dishonest then what comey has said and what he just said. comey appointed his close friend, patrick fitzgerald, to be an independent investigator at a time when the entire case was a phony case. the caa said to valerie plame, the whole thing was about who outed her. the council so there was no material damage to the cia. the person who did it was: how was deputy at the state department. patrick fitzgerald told him to keep his mouth shut. he then locked up by "new york times" reporter for 85 days to get her to testify. scooter finally out of concern for her gave her permission to testify because she said i

have -- she then testified after she got out of jail and after the case was over. she wrote a book and said, i realized later that a prosecutor me false information so that i gave false testimony -- >> laura: should have been disbarred. >> he should have been disbarred and frankly, comey should have been disbarred. comey presided over what was very clear. they were trying to get dick cheney. comey finally told you the reason. comey went in the first time, they are in the cabinet room, sitting next to each other, comey tries to be friendly, dick cheney says i know who you are, looks straight ahead and says nothing. comey is such a petty person that he sought to destroy dick cheney, scooter brennan turnover and destroy him so they decided to destroy scooter. i think what he said today is the most despicable language and the biggest falsehood and everybody ought to understand, scooter libby is the threat of the future. if they can do this to scooter libby, if they can do this to donald trump, they can do this to every american. that is what i will disclose this. you read the original statement

by rosenstein, what he sent to the president, which i'm actually publishing tomorrow, and you read what the inspector general said about mccabe, you have to conclude, these are both internal reports, you have to conclude we were in a normal stager with a top trick of people the fbi both dishonest people, totally untrustworthy, and totally self-serving. >> laura: a partisan investigation. i don't care if jim comey was nominally a republican. this investigation from the beginning had an anti-trump animists. first they wanted an insurance policy with peter strzok and page. then i got elected and they were in freak out mode. he had to go right with the steele dossier and keep it going. even after that carter page talked to them, he went up and talked to them. willing to talk to anybody. carter page will talk to anybody and they kept that thing going >> because i think between 8:00 at 10:00 on election night, liberals in america went through

a psychotic trauma of such scale, i'm serious. >> laura: they are still suffering from it. >> i think it psychotic. at 8:00, they know hillary clinton was going to be the first woman president. at 10:00, this horrifying moment that occurred, and people like comey -- remember, comey's wife and daughters are both at the parade to come at the march the day after the inaugural. >> laura: i love that line -- she pops into the interview with stephanopoulos, she was like "it was so great," and they all voted for hillary. >> mccabe's wife was a democratic candidate. none of this means they were in any way biased. either way, the judge who is currently looking at the case in new york happens to be kimba wood, who was bill clinton's nominee to be attorney general. again, i am sure she will be totally neutral. >> laura: [laughs] >> you can't keep a straight face. >> laura: i can't.

if you are writing this is one of your scary emt novels, everything will blow up, you would write this, and i would say, you really taken it too far. this is really out of control, cuckoo for cocoa puffs. newt gingrich, thank you so much for joining us.

♪ >> laura: okay, get this. this is a really fun topic. the city council in washington, d.c., is now

considering legislation to lower the voting age for federal and local elections to 16. not a joke. you can buy democrats hope this triggers a nationwide movement. they want us to sweep the whole country. sweep donald trump out of office. the left is losing the war of ideas, and we know that. the crackdown on immigration is making it harder to import new voters, why not just use impressionable children? let's discuss as a former trump campaign manager corey lewandowski and civil rights attorney leo tirrell in los angeles. all right, leo, i remember being 16, just a few years ago, i remember being 16. it was fun. we were playing high school sports, and goofing around on the weekends, going to the go kart track, do they still do that anymore? explain why that is the way to go when in most states, you can't get a tattoo at age 16.

>> this is too easy. age is a number. 16 and 17-year-olds can get married in many states, they get a job, they can drive their car, i don't see where age is a number. what i have been impressed with, i think this whole nation has been mesmerized by the kids in school in parkland. those kids were articulate, smart, and to make an assumption, laura, you are a lawyer, to make an assumption that age is somehow a measurement of competency and maturity, i would beg to differ. >> laura: by 16? why not 14? >> argue against me on this. >> laura: prefrontal cortex. do you know what that means? >> explain it to me. >> laura: it's not me. i'm not a scientist. there are those who are and the prefrontal cortex of the teenage brain, this is science, liberals are all about science, not about emotion, science, prefrontal cortex of the teenage brain is

not developed yet. it's not in balance. the emotional brain. hold on, leo. take a breath. it's okay. by 25, we are all developed. our teenage brain is now in sync with our emotional brain. this is science, this is not punditry. isn't it better to allow the brain to develop just a little? the rational part of the teen brain is fully developed" until the age of 25? adults think with the prefrontal cortex, teens process information with the amygdala. this is the emotional part. >> laura ingraham is going to play the scientific card on me on this case? come on, laura. >> laura: leo, you're out of ideas. this is hilarious. if you cite science -- >> you can't cite science. just like comey, facts don't matter. we'll do it based on public opinion polling. here's what it comes down to, half the time in florida, they

are arguing, you can't buy a weapon at 18 years old. we will raise the minimum age to buy a handgun or assault rifle, but in washington, d.c., we will lower the age for people to vote even though they don't have the ability. can't own a gun, can't drive in washington, d.c., at 16 years old. you still have to show up at school every day, you can't excuse yourself because you are not a legal adult. we will give you the biggest and most important right that our country has, which is to make a rational decision when it comes to voting at 16 years old. this is liberal propaganda. >> laura: it's also because they wanted to catch on and sweep the nation, correct? >> of course. it's all because democrats are losing voters every day. when you can't import illegal immigration's to vote. that's what happens. next time, a voter i.d. law that requires people to present identification -- >> laura: leo? >> that's a red herring. a fight on the show for 3 minutes. if you will make the scientific

argument, laura -- >> laura: i can't drink and i can't go to war. they don't go to war and should be change the relevant ages for those, as well? >> let me fill out a favorite conservative card. local decision-making by local officials and now big brother government, corey and laura will tell the district of columbia they cannot make a decision. role reversal. >> laura: leo, i'm interested in the federal elections. d.c. will do what d.c. does. that's cool. the federal elections, obviously, governed by the u.s. constitution. we all understand that. the framers had a pretty good, even by 16, kids were driving vehicles, driving tractors, and doing all sorts of stuff at age 16, even going to war. now we have a different view of it. i guess we could change it. we could change it to 14, 13, 12, why -- in utero?

>> we should change the rules that say at 16 years old, if you can build, you can go to the military, only weapon, buy all you want. why not? >> listen, excuse me, you can have a rifle, you can possess a long gone, you cannot buy a handgun, but you can have a rifn this great country. >> laura: you can vote. we are playing devil's advocate here, if you can vote, which is a sacred right, then why are the other rights not as honored and is respected for that age group? if you have the wherewithal, the mental acuity, the judgment, in order to make that very -- is a complicated decision, for whom you want to vote, primaries, and national elections, or you think it just a throw away a goof? >> i can't believe you.

come on. 50 states, 50 laboratories come all the stuff we learn and government, let the local government make a decision. why are you arguing against local decision-making? >> laura: you were in for that when it came to gay marriage. i'm talking about liberals. you are pegging your poison, your issues. they wanted to do that for abortion and gay rights. they were like, it has to be a federal right. now we have a democrat quandary. they are worried, i'm telling you, they are worried trump will get reelected. they are way they are out of ideas. they are like, we got to get more voters, gotta get more voters. >> their base continues to shrink. as a bipolar, by postal base, they need to do anything they can to bring people into the system. we want voter participation, as high as humanly possible. of course we do. 16-year-olds -- >> i've got a news flash for

both of you. in the last republican victory, guess who had more popular votes? the losing democrats. they are not hurting for voters. in 2016 -- >> laura: flow, you know -- >> you didn't put any points in the board. it doesn't matter who has the most votes, i tell you won the electoral college. >> i don't dispute that. laura come you guys are shuffling the board. they got plenty of democratic voters. you are taking you away from the local government. >> laura: we have the electoral college. ohio, wisconsin, other states, not just california, not just new york, not just new england. we have 50 states. and i like that. >> this is amazing. role reversal. >> laura: i want all states to have a say in who becomes president. all i'm saying, if that's 16, why not 15? why not 14?

do you remember what you were doing when you were 16? give me a phone memory from 16. >> i don't think i can say those things on television. >> laura: leo? take it away. >> okay. i was playing sports, i ran for president of my high school and i won. i was mature enough and i like politics, just like you, laura. >> i was chasing girls and playing high school basketball. >> laura: oh, my god. [laughs] >> i am throwing every argument i can't think of -- >> laura: at this point, i'm not sure 54-year-old should be allowed to vote for the president. >> may be an iq test. >> laura: okay, gentlemen. i will leave it there. we love the kids. don't get me wrong. reporter cheryl atkinson is there with her insight with how shady forces in the media try to control what you see, hear, and

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♪ >> laura: time now for our defending the first series, worry expose the enemies of the first amendment, free expression, and free thought thought. last night, we told you about the shocking fact about the tech giants war on free speech. tonight, we look at how to fight back and the first thing to do is to recognize what you are up against. one thing the left does is gin up a propaganda war on so-called fake news. let's bring in reporter sharyl atkisson, host of the great sunday show "full measure" on the author of the book "the smear: how shady political operatives control what you see, what you think, and how you vote." so happy she is with us. you are the only person at cbs he was ever nice to me. i say this all the time. we worked at cbs together. we are delighted you were with us. this defending the first series,

i think it's really important. a lot of people out there, they feel like they don't know how to fight back against best. they feel like they are under assault, all these fact-checkers seem to only check facts and the negatively about republicans, politifact, they say the g.o.p. lies 32%, democrats only like 8% of the time. are you finding that the fact-checkers need a fact-checker? >> i devoted a chapter to looking at this whole idea to shape and control our narrative in many creative ways, to create what i call an artificial reality online and on the news so that people think that things are true that may not be true, that they are an outlier if they have certain feelings when they may not be. this may be media literacy efforts, may be called fact-checking, maybe anti-fact news -- >> laura: what do you mean, maybe literacy efforts? >> i notice that people who started with these fake news efforts, an effort to control information more so than get rid of fake news, they have now moved on, some of them, too, you know, we will start teaching in

public schools and requiring this as part of the law to tell you who to believe and it usually involves them saying, if you read it in "the new york times" of "the washington post," you can believe that, but if you've seen it somewhere else, you need to . ignoring the fact that some of these formerly well-respected news publications have made some of the most egregious errors in the last couple of years. it's not that simple. >> laura: we were just doing a segment about whether 16-year-old should vote. i think democrats want them to vote because they are fresh pagans. they are in the midst of the propaganda machine, especially in public schools, private schools. they are right in it. right in the thick of it. it all skews democrats. let's talk about other fact-checkers. there is a now a fact-checker at univision, the statistics at univision are really bad for republicans. i guess 95% of fact checks in january of 2017 to april of this year, 95% went against republicans. 0% democrat.

2% republicans and democrats. 3% nonpartisan. that is the media research center. univision, not a big fan of the president. think of that is why i try to say that when you see these efforts of third parties to cure your information or tell you what to believe or try to cure to his right, that is something to be suspicious of. that doesn't mean you can't get valuable information from them, it's usually an effort under a different name by an entity that wants to shape the narrative and shape your opinion. >> laura: amy klobuchar, senator from minnesota, was on television this week, talking about how we need regulations on facebook. i know some conservatives are very frustrated with facebook. but coded that back conservatives? just independent thinkers? the government to say, we will regulate? how could that backfire? >> any time a government or third party gets into the mix, perhaps especially the government, maybe you agree with him today but will you agree with them tomorrow? that is why there is a philosophy when the government was founded, to keep him out of

certain things. we want to invite them in whatever their goals of the day may be to decide what we should see and believe. >> laura: the tone of the coverage about president trump. he will have this historic meeting with kim jong un. if president obama had arranged this or bill clinton, madeleine albright, john kerry, hillary clinton, this would be -- this would be all they are talking about. it's like it's not even happening. it's really incredible. the tariff, china is bowing out some of these issues that they have never moved on before. that would be covered. it is almost like these substantive issues where donald trump is really making a difference for the country, those are inconvenient facts for this media. got to be stormy daniels, got to be michael cohen, got to be mueller 24/7. that skews the public's mind as well. >> there are two related factors i see behind that. one, the media, some republicans and democrats are all against donald trump, facing extraordinary opposition. other things that play but they are all related to that, why i

think that happens. >> laura: chair that gets thank you so much for joining us, defending the first. up next, another excellent reporter has a simple but devastating example of how, yes, the lame stream media tries to keep the truth about the russia probe from you. stay with us.

♪ >> laura: sometimes fake news isn't found and what they media say, it is what they don't say. the reporter has come up with a list of questions of the mainstr dare ask former fbi director jim comey. "the wall street journal"'s kim stressful joins us now to share those questions with us. kimberly, this will be so good because what i have been watching stephanopoulos to this interview, it lasted five hours, is there really anyone you would want to interview for five hours? that is a separate conversation. i am shouting on the television "get the follow-up" ," and the follow-up doesn't come. give us the number one question that you would have asked if you had the opportunity. >> number one question is, did the fbi do any due diligence on the person who had hired christopher steele, the officer of author of the dossier. fusion gps was his tax massacre.

an organization that exists to smear mutational political opponents. did you look into them? did you know this history? did that not colored your view of the source who was bringing you this information? did you not care that it was the clinton campaign and the dnc that had paid for what was essentially opposition research? >> laura: speaking of oppo research, comey was asked by stephanopoulos about why he didn't tell the president about who funded that steele dossier. let's watch. >> did you tell him that the steele dossier had been financed by his political opponents? >> no. i don't think i used this term steele dossier, i talked about additional material. >> did he have a right to know that? >> that it had been financed by his political opponents? i don't know that. it wasn't necessary for my goal, which was to alert him that we had this information. >> laura: my goal, which was

to rattle the president-elect and get him really freaked out about it. i found that answer to be despicable, frankly, despicable. >> yes. it says everything about this. if you actually read the full transcript, comey admits that he claims that he knew that the dossier had been funded by a democrat aligned group that he didn't know which one. another question, why on earth did you not? here comes this man bringing this dossier full of salacious allegations, i understand he had a track record with the fbi, that he had worked with him before but never for a political operative before, never in an election year. did you not say, who was actually paying this guy and what is his purpose? he continued to refer, throughout his entire interview, to christopher steele is a credible source, when the fbi now knows that he was out, despite fbi orders, talking to the press, blowing their probe, giving out information he had

been specifically told not to, and comey still referred to him as a credible source. a million questions that should have been asked about that. >> laura: there were two people whose names did not seem to come up often. if they did, i must have missed them. paige and peter strzok. lisa page and peter strzok, fbi agents who work, both investigations, lovebirds, texting each other, insurance policy, what questions should have been asked? >> basic ones. for instance, is this the kind of behavior that the fbi thinks is appropriate? is a common behavior to have people sending messages like this? doesn't concern you about the political bias? both of these people were very senior members of the probes into both clinton and into trump. does comey have any concerns, knowing what they texted to each other? for instance, they had a conversation about how they shouldn't necessarily send too many agents on to deal with hillary clinton because, by the way, she might be the next president and that could be bad.

so political decisions were influencing how they handled those probes. comey should have been asked if he still had confidence in the integrity knowing what he knows now about how the two were conversing about it. >> laura: and views on lying. we only have about 20 seconds. he was on lying and the ig report on mccabe. about 15 seconds. >> basic one. comey spent half of that interview talking about how you cannot, should not lie to the fbi. basic question. should mccabe be prosecuted? the ig said that he lied repeatedly under oath to the fbi. >> laura: kim strassel, fantastic peace and great questions. we only wish they had been asked. stay there, we'll be right back.

>> laura: of the many great quotes on families barbara bush would frequently say, one was to ask my being with family is just putting our arms around each other and being there.

our thoughts and prayers are with the entire bush family tonight. a great lady, a great memory, great legacy. now, ed henry is in for shannon bream and a fox news at 19. >> hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i am ed henry filling in for shannon bream. major developments out of california. breaking details on the horrifying in air emergency that led to the first u.s. airline fidelity is almost a decade. live coverage of the passing of former first lady barbara bush continues. we have heard from presidents and first ladies from across the political divide. she will be remembered for her devotion to country and family. the obamas noting she was the rock of a family dedicated to public service. the clintons saying that she was fierce and feisty but full of grit and grace. a basketball great who