all right. thank you so much, ed henry. that is all the time we have left this evening. i will break all of this down tomorrow. i promise. be with us. let not your heart be troubled. we'll always be fair and balanced. laura ingraham has had a full hour to study this. i can't wait to hear your comments. >> laura: sean, great show tonight. that is it. i'm telling you, we keep saying, news is not going to break so late in the evening but every night we are wrong. we have to blow up our show, change it all around, and that is why we love live tv. this is the "the ingraham angle "the ingraham angle." this is a fox news alert. fox news has obtained the controversial james comey memos about meeting with president trump. we have a member of the house intel committee reviewing that redacted and unredacted versions and he joins us to tell us was inside. the memos described former fbi director comey's private interactions with president trump. the big question is, whether comey leaked any classified information to the press.

here's what he said a short time ago, after the memos were made public. >> i'm sure the special counsel is considering my recollection of those events. which were reflected in those memos. it is my recollection that it's the evidence that will be used. these would be to show that i wrote it down at the time, sort of the bolster to credibility my recollection. >> laura: must been let's brinn congressman chris stewart, a member of the house intel committee. give us your take. >> you know what it shows me, director comey was dishonest with the president from the very beginning and continues to be. he should have gone in and instead, mr. president, we have this piece of political garbage that was funded by the dnc, hillary clinton, pay no attention to it. if anyone brings it up, we'll refute it and say it's not credible. he said later on it was salacious and unverified.

instead, what he said to the president is, the russians are reporting, as if this was a credible russian intelligence operation, he knew that it wasn't. he knew that this was not some formal document the russian intelligence had created and put together. it was put together by hillary clinton, the dnc. he used a foreign agent, by the way, who used second and third hand information from unidentified russians. we he should have been honest wh the president. by the way, he's being dishonest with the president continually. he says he thinks it's possible the president is under some type of shadow, that the russians have a -- >> laura: he kind of walked a back brace because he should have walked it back. >> laura: that was outrageous. >> they could have information on you, me, director comey. that is the direction he has taken, he is trying to cast as deep a shadow as he possibly could over this. >> laura: memos to the file are invariably self-serving documents. i remember when i was a white collar criminal defense attorney, you always look at those, let's go over what really

happened. you want to write a memo to the file that makes you look like a fool or a liar or makes you look like you are misrepresenting the facts. you will write a memo to the file that memorializes events that will make you look in the best flights. there was an interesting part of this -- one of these memos, not very long. you have the unredacted -- redacted version. this is what he says in one of the memos. he said i had dinner with president trump in the green room at the white house at 6:30 p.m. i explained that he could always count on me to tell the truth. he said i don't do sneaky things. i don't leak. i don't do weasel moves. what was that leaking them out much of a columbia professor to release it to the media? was that leaking or tiddlywinks? >> it's not the way in fbi director should respond or should act. to be honest about it, laura, the testimony the director has provided before the committees

and closed sessions does not comport at all with some of the things he is saying publicly right now. >> laura: you can discuss this because it a closed session? is it already out there? >> we hope it will be. it should be. this is another good example of information i should have been released to the first time we asked. why in the world does department of justice feel like it is their responsibility to protect this person rather than their responsibility to be open and honest with the american people. >> laura: another part of this memo where president trump, rightly, as he did in the campaign, calls into question andrew mccabe. at that point, he says, about this point, he asked me again about your guy, mccabe, it does sound like trump. whether he was going to be okay. i again affirmed his ability and professionalism and said the president would come to see him and benefit from both. at that point, he already knew that andrew mccabe probably had some problems, yet he was telling the president that

mccabe was fine. >> that brings me to another question. how is it that the director of the fbi had surrounded himself with what we know now our political hacks? andrew mccabe, lisa page, others. the fbi is not full of progressives. it's not full of liberal activists. yet, they are around the director and it seems like he had selected an advanced and promoted people that had a different view than many americans. >> laura: will you bring comey back up? >> we sure hope so. >> laura: how will you make it happen? >> we will request him to speak before the committee, i expect he will decline. i can't imagine -- >> laura: maybe you should hang in a green room. i think you should go to msnbc, i think he has a binky and a sleeping bag. >> he's been pretty effective at selling his book, no doubt about it. this is not about his book. this is about learning the truth and having him be accountable for the things he said. again, i don't expect he will be

banging on our door but if he doesn't, -- >> laura: why won't he? is a very smart guy. he went to a chicago law school, incredible career in government. he's a smart guy. if he can't withstand questioning from you, congressman, some of these other guys, he goes on with all these tough guy journalists. stay right there. we have more. join tonight by former fbi special agent ted former whitewater deputy independent counsel's all wise and bargained in the studio with me in d.c., democratic strategist in washington attorney scott bolden. scott, you have experienced both on the defense and prosecution side, most of the file. if you're not a practicing attorney, people think, that is nice, it is like "dear diary," but talk about, and your own practice, when you look at my most of the file, honestly, politics out of it for a moment. people who write to my most of

the file, go. >> it is fundamental go to the litigation whether you are in the government or white-collar. to me, my memos to the file are factual. they are facts that you want to make memorable. i don't know whether they are self-serving but i will tell you this. we highlight points that are takeaways from those meetings. the fbi, these were pretty standard notes, if you will. you could read and do whatever you want to read into them. in the end, it is all about the facts. if you want to put in the various overlay to it, then that's not going to be helpful, may be politically but in a prosecutor -- >> laura: nefarious, he would get his point of you out by going through a columbia professor friend that would then siphon the information out to journalists. that calls into question his motive. >> he -- >> laura: what was he worried

about? he was worried about -- >> his reputation. >> laura: thank you. is that what the fbi director is supposed to be doing? the regulations applicable to this case and the law, section 641, should have fired him day one. it demonstrates clearly, you cannot traffic documents, you cannot reveal documents, you cannot sell documents or trade them. he was trading these documents for his own reputation, was he not? on government computers? >> he was trying to protect the united states of america. he did not break the law and doing it otherwise he would be prosecuted. >> laura: by this fbi? oh, yeah. let's go to saul. the underlying crime here, now that we see these memos, we see what he wrote in the sedan in the way off from the white house and so forth. what is the underlying crime? >> whose underlying crime?

the president? >> laura: [laughs] good question, saul. take it away. >> there is no underlying crime for the president reflected in these notes at all. certainly, nothing approaching obstruction of justice. as is so often the case with president trump, there is not an understanding of norms, norms that have evolved and how you deal with the fbi, how you interact with somebody like the fbi director. there is nothing close to and obstruction of justice. i share the concern of the congressman, i don't think i would put it in the stark terms he did. if director comey new at the time of this initial meeting where he was alone with the president and briefed him on the salacious russia allegations, if you knew by that point in time, which i believe he did who paid for these, that it was the dnc in mrs. clinton's campaign, i think it is

extremely disappointing he did not reveal much of the president. i think he definitely should have done so. >> laura: that's a material fact that goes to the motivation, the credibility of the underlying allegation in the dossier. let's go to bobby. audrey jeffers show, we had comey, he was referencing whether he thought the information that he transmitted to his pal was classified or not. let's watch. >> senator grassley, chairman of the jerry committee, says there are seven memos. four of them are classified. is that right? >> i don't know. i don't have the memos. i don't know how many they are. when i created some of them, they were classified. i don't know how many. >> laura: okay. bobby, i got to have you, take this away. >> i can't understand how many times -- >> laura: how does he not

know? >> i don't know. how could he not have them? he has copies. he provided copies to the who is friends in columbia. he probably has them in his briefcase. how can he not have these memos? how many times can we expect the answer that i don't know, i don't remember, when he's cornered. it is unfathomable that he doesn't know what is in those memos. four of them are classified. he's got copies, probably has them right there with him. one thing that strikes me, the fbi, for the fbi director on january 6, 4 weeks before the inauguration, going immediately and creating these memos, which he already told us that he never had to do under president obama, and it really sets up -- his mind-set was that president trump was an adversary for the beginning before they had a relationship. he is treating the president as his adversary. and it's clear from his creating

days memos. >> laura: bobby, he said the first meeting, when he wanted to trump tower, he felt a lot of trepidation going into that meeting. he was afraid. why was he afraid? >> did he get queasy? was he mildly nauseous? >> laura: nauseated. i think it's nauseated not nauseous. otherwise he would be creating nausea and others. i'm a grammatical not to. i will go to scott. what would happen to a regular rank-and-file fbi agent if he, an answer to a committee, a congressman, said, some of them are classified, i don't know. what would happen to that? >> whose career would effectively be over. if he wasn't booted out of the fbi, his career as an investigator would be over. when you show a lack of credibility, you can't be a witness anymore, the bread and butter in the fbi is to be a witness. i've seen agents suspended for a

significant amount of time without pay, not for leaking, but for taking information from save the fbi agents on the ground in iraq and trying to transmitted to the counterparts here because maybe it's a new way of creating an ied that they are fighting over there and we want to transmit that to our brom tech partners on the l.a.p.d. and when that information is passed without being declassified, they want to fire you -- >> laura: even though the intent was not there to compromise security. scott? >> look at the first note. you have it right there. the first note says that mr. comey writes himself, he doesn't know how to classify these. these are his notes. he says, the default is secret. right there. now what is so wrong with that? >> laura: he didn't say that to jake tapper. he said he didn't know what was classified. he can't remember what it's classified or not? >> he didn't know how to classify them when he sent them to mccabe and others.

what is so wrong with that? >> laura: it doesn't matter. you cannot send government material to a third party under fbi regulations. >> it was not government material. >> laura: wait a second, scott. he's creating a memo to the fbi file on his meeting -- not later, he went into the sedan, he said at one point, 5 minutes, it was 5 minutes, on the government commuter. i will argue that case against you in court every day. >> it was done in response to bad conduct of donald trump. >> laura: it was done on government time. government time on government property. saul? saul? saul? >> yeah? >> laura: what is your response? if you are in the independent counsel's office, deputy independent counsel, you're writing a file on a government

computer after meeting with a government official, you said not to a buddy out of law school and say do what you want with it, is that government property? >> two things. they are clearly not his personal notes. as you say, they are on a government computer, he is writing them to people who are professionals with him in the fbi. whether it is classified or unclassified, it's government property and he doesn't have the right to send them out anywhere without getting permission from the proper authority. by the way, deputy ag rosenstein, when he was in front of congress two or three months ago, we at that point. he was specifically asked that question, and he came up with the same answer that you did in that i did. they just simply aren't his personal notes. >> laura: we all move off of that for a second. congressman stewart, the last memo, the president is clear, if he is not a target, he wants people to know that, he wants to be the president of the

united states without the anvil of the end investigation on his back. what is wrong with that? what is wrong with him saying that? is not a political expert at that point. he just got into office 5 minutes ago. so he saying that -- they are making it to be such a big deal, trying to manipulate the investigation, no. comey was already indicating he wasn't a target. >> that is right. plus he indicates in these memos that if there is something that is taking place, he wants to know. i want to go back, first, don't leak especially if you don't know if they are classified, like he admits. >> laura: that's a great point. >> the second point, i'm a former air force pilot, right out of classified information all the time, all we are asking is that director comey and hillary clinton be treated as if i were treated if i were responsible for leaking or disseminating information that was classified. the last thing, director comey did not reveal to the president that this was paid for by the dnc and hillary clinton just like they did not reveal to the fisa court that it was paid for

by hillary clinton and the dnc. that is a meaningful act that should have been revealed. >> these are disputed facts, though. the fact that the fbi director did not disclose something in his conversations with the president come up remember, the president and his campaign, since october of 2016, were undr investigation, at least in connection to the number of contacts between those campaign members and russian operatives. the testimony told you that before congress under oath. so i don't think you know or he knew what the president at that juncture was a target, subject, or a witness. >> laura: i understand. >> he told him he wasn't. >> laura: he told him he wasn't a target and though ♪ ♪ 's. >> talking about the first meeting. at that juncture. the target, subject, witness, those labels can go a lot of different places and then back.

>> laura: one thing, as people, it is hard to take politics out of this because we are all living in washington, very heated. if we were under a cloud of suspicion, and the information that was being used to perhaps taint us or taras was developed by a mortal enemy, political or otherwise, business, i think all of us as human beings would want to know that. okay, wait a second. now it makes sense why these are inflammatory accusations are in there. as people, we would all want to know that. whether that affects the legal case, i don't know. i think the fact he did not reveal that, being as smart as he is, he's a smart guy, to me, is very odd. he can remember the shrimp scampi and the appetizer. i don't remember what i ate yesterday. >> he in the president talk about the unreliability of that report. there was no need to go deeper than that. to be honest with you, donald trump talks a lot more in these memos than james comey does.

there's nothing offensive or nefarious about it. stick to the facts. these memos are all about -- >> laura: why did he want to leak them if they are embarrassing? >> to protect his reputation and the united states of america. >> laura: the united states of america? okay. >> his job is to protect the citizens. >> laura: your admitting he thought donald trump was an adversary? >> he let him go and he wanted a special prosecutor to ensure the integrity of this investigation. >> we talk about protecting the united states of america, my heavens, the way you do that is you be honest with the american citizens. the justice department and fbi have instructed at every turn, as we've requested, how many times have we had -- >> has donald trump and honest with the american people? >> laura: he's been more transparent on what is going on with this investigation -- >> lies documented -- >> laura: no collusion. guys, we are out of time. we could do this for a whole hour. i love this.

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♪ >> laura: i love redacted things, the big black, don't you love that? don't you want to know what's behind the black? something really boring but it makes it look really official. welcome back to "the ingraham angle." we are continuing to cover the release of those comey memos. why aren't powerful trump bashers like jim comey being held to the same standards that robert mueller is applying to the president and his associates? for some answers, we go to victor davis hanson, senior fellow at -- and ari fleischer.

gentlemen, good to see all of you. let start with you, ari, your take away in the discussion of these memos. we've had a chance to read through them. your thoughts? >> i think there is nothing new in here that we haven't heard before from james comey except for three things, laura, i read them all, one is that the president told james comey that he has serious reservations about national security advisor mike flynn's judgment. he said that very early. two, eric holder, the attorney general under obama was smarter and more sophisticated and smoother than loretta lynch, they other attorney general under president obama. finally, he rebutted the notion in here, the white house is beautiful, compares favorably mar-a-lago, rebutting the stories where the president said the white house was a dump. the only three things i thought were new. we've heard it all before. >> laura: i think the president made it clear that if there was anything to be

investigated, it should be investigated. the fact that he wanted the fbi director to actually announce or say that, if he wasn't a target -- that is a human reaction for someone who hasn't lived in washington. i don't have any problem with that whatsoever. chris, your thoughts? >> i don't have a problem with him wanting things that were -- i do have a problem with the loyalty thing. i think jim comey will have a problem with these things being released tonight because it's cutting into his book sales. half the book is right in these memos that i read for free. i don't have to buy the book, which i didn't want to buy because i didn't like the way he behaved in 2016 during the election. i think he put himself in his own position above, inserted himself and the politics in a way that no fbi director ever showed. >> laura: scott bolden, the previous guest, admitted that the reason that comey put those memos out to his pal at columbia was because he was worried about

his reputation, this was some altruistic motive, victor davis hanson, on the part of jim comey, like he was doing it for the nation, come on. he was doing it because drum can him and he didn't like that. >> he was licking from a leaked memo. he went into the meeting intending to memorialize him. he was careful. trump had no idea this conversation would get out. comey was fixing the scene. we were looking for two things in them, collusion and obstruction of justice, it's not there. what there is there is some very strange things that ari mentioned but also, trump has a cunning or pricey and suspicion that mccabe is not trustworthy. that proved to be true. it is very funny because robert mueller has gone after obstruction, he's gone after lying to federal investigators, he's gone after leaking, he's going after all of these is suppose that crimes with minor figures but what he really did do inadvertently was he opened up a pandora's box of equality

under the law. on the other tracks, we have doj and fbi people who were all exposed to the allegations that mueller is making against minor figures, they thought hillary clinton was going to win the election and these would be swept under the rug. now with a mccabe referral and these memos that don't really show much, i think you will see a lot of exposure. >> i don't think you could call general flynn or paul manafort minor figures in the trump campaign. i think that is just wrong. the accusations against them are pretty serious. i think they should be taken serious. i don't think this points directly to the president but i do think they did some bad things. >> laura: let victor respond. i got that point, chris. victor? >> i don't think you found any collusion, which was the mandate of the special counsel, with either manfort or flynn. i think you will find out that flynn's confession was based on

a text that was probably gained from a fisa court improperly and the investigators who talked to him said that he probably did not contradict the surveilled text. >> laura: okay. i don't want to get -- manafort is not really a part of this memo released tonight. we can talk about manafort for a long time. let's go to ari on this. ari, the more that you marinate in the stuff, the more you wonder how we got to this place. i mean, it really -- victor is right. this was the russians manipulating trump, trump was doing all of these deals with russia, and russia will be treated gingerly, trump has been so tough on russia, he's never going to be tough enough for the left who suddenly are really anti-russian when we really needed them and '80s, they were like russia's great and now it's the big bad evil thing. there is no collusion -- in the

'80s, when i was talking about the soviet union as a student journalist, i had a lot of friends saying "ronnie ray-gun"" give me a break. the left was sympathizing with the russians and the soviets to me '80s. now it is russia beating the morning, noon, and night. >> there is one bottom line. the bottom line is, there is a large group of people in this country who have not accepted the results of an election. as a result of that, they will support any thing that makes donald trump looks bad, they can try to throw him out of office. they have ginned it up to the point where a special counsel has been named to investigate donald trump with no evidence that anybody knows of of collusion. if collusion had taken place, it would have leaked by now. we need to accept the results of the election i get this country back on track. that is what this gets down to. i hope mueller wraps it up soon, announces there is no collusion.

we'll see what happens to manafort, gates and the others. as for the president of the future of this nation, he won. let's get on with government business. >> laura: chris, go ahead. >> excuse me. the issue is really equality under the law. >> laura: victor, we have to talk about whether people will be treated in a desperate fashion or the same under the same or similar circumstances. i have to ask about mccabe. we have a criminal referral now on andrew mccabe. how significant is that? again, trump's instinct about him, he has a really good political instincts, his political instinct on mccabe who was, he was slippery. go ahead. >> he knew from the beginning. he has good instincts, as you say. mccabe has four instances where he may have not told the truth. this testimony will be in conflict with james comey and may be loretta lynch's. we'll see if the doj attorney

uses the same types of tactics that mueller does and leverages one of those three people for a larger story because the testimonies are not compatible. again, either lying to congress are lying to a federal investigator are obstructing justice with a fisa court, it's legal or not legal. mr. mueller is reminded that those are things that cannot be legal. what he didn't realize was that they apply far more forcefully to other people who have that exposure, and the american people are tired of it. i think we are seeing the result of that frustration. >> laura: another fantastic segment. thank you so much, all three of you. how to stop the swamp and its campaign to take on the president and his nominees? that is tonight's "angle" when we come back.

>> laura: how to do be the swamp's efforts to take down from his nominees. that is the focus of tonight's "angle" ." it has been 15 months since the trump inauguration and yet there are still more than 500 positions across the federal government that have yet to be filled by trump appointees. these range from assistant secretary of state to political military affairs to assistant secretary of homeland security for policy. now for my own experience in both the education department, the transportation department, and also at the white house,

it is not the assistant secretary or a associate deputy level, that is where all the work gets done. the fault lies partly in the administration itself. think about this, the office of presidential personnel, really important, it runs the president's staffing, it is now overburdened and understaffed. obama's office of presidential personnel had three times the staff of what trump has. it takes people, actual employees in that office to process names, shepherd the vetting process, and do real follow-through on people who are suggested to various positions. i realize that trump wants to cut the size of government but there are better places to cut then opp. most responsible for this travesty, though, of all these delays and all the foot dragging, are the democrats. stopping trump from putting his own people in key positions, what does it do? it slows down trump's progress.

431 of president trump's nominees have received senate confirmation. that's a far lower number than any other president at this point in their term. now democrats have continuously invoked a rule that requires 30 hours of debate on many of trump's appointees. so that means that nominees way to an average of 84 days for confirmation, that's a lot longer also than previous administrations. more than 50% of trump's nominees for federal judgeships are still awaiting confirmation. democrats obstruction efforts are having a negative impact on the basic functions of our government. it causes inefficiencies, and it even can put our national security at risk. the senate has yet to act on the nominations of several key diplomatic posts, most notably, with richard grenell, the

harvard educated diplomat is president trump's nominee to be ambassador for germany. he is being held up by one democrat senator. jeff murphy of oregon. what could mitch mcconnell do to move things along as a senate majority leader? he could tell chuck schumer the following. hey, chuck, the senate is not going to recess until you all start dispensing with this 30 hour rule and start allowing votes on human nominees. these guys want to get home on the weekends. if he needs to change or dispense with the filibuster rule, he may need to do that, too. you can't let this continue. to remember in 2013, then senate majority leader harry reid blew up the filibuster rule for fedel appointees in the executive branch like cabinet officials and the judicial branch. this is how obama was able to pack the lower courts as he did. trump could do the same here. donald trump has frankly been asking for that.

but now some are looking to put another scalp on the wall, i'm talking the democrats, who do they want? mike pompeo's scalp. trump's cia director, who has been nominated for secretary of state. now during his confirmation hearing, america saw the democrats's demonization game on full display. auditioning for 2020 was new jersey's cory booker. >> is being gay a perversion? >> when i was a senator graham i had a very clear view over whether it was appropriate for two same-sex people to get married. >> do you believe that {gay sex is a perversion? >> laura: democrats claim to be against discrimination except when they are discriminating. if you are someone who holds a traditional outlook, like any faithful catholic for instance, other christians, should we now

assume that you need not apply to any of these positions? then there were swings and messes, like this one from senator jeanne shaheen. >> you were criticized at the cia for undermining policies of the previous administration to improve diversity at the cia. >> i don't know the criticism that you referring to. i have to tell you, i didn't undermine a single policy. >> i would just say come on michael weinstein, former air force officer who founded the military religious freedom foundation says that he has been seeing increasing complaints from those inside the intelligence community under your leadership. >> the number of, we call them no fear complaints, statutory requirements decreased from 20162017 by 40%. >> good. >> laura: i like the "good. that is pathetic. even dianne feinstein, who is usually more reasonable in those

matters, voted to confirm pompeo as cia director just last year, she's announced that she's voting against him because he's too hawkish at a time when we need more diplomacy. okay, he only traveled to north korea over easter weekend and laid the groundwork for president trump's upcoming negotiations with the communist regime. that is truly historic and it could be a monumental move for peace. don't worry about that. but the democrats, let's face it. they don't care to let the facts get in the way. it is the choice supporting policies that deliver real results, the democrats are going to choose the resistance every time. it is despicable. now consider some of the suppose the reason that some senators are now opposing pompeo. >> he has devalued religious

tolerance and women's reproductive rights and health care, not only in this country, but around the world. i think he sets a poor example in terms of american values. >> laura: american values? i don't know what you consider to be americans, sir, but mike pompeo's life is a shining example of what a sacrifice for a nation is all about. first in his class at west point, harvard law, top of his class, popular congressman, stellar cia director for the last year, who won the respect and trust of the president of the united states. 39 in the democratic caucus are expected to vote no already on pompeo and nine are undecided. this is the time to test the so-called moderate senate democrats from states that trump won. smartly, heidi heitkamp of north dakota just came out today

as the first democrat to support pompeo's nomination, but no word yet on senators joe donnelly of indiana, joe manchin of west virginia, and claire mccaskill of missouri. when those guys are out campaigning for reelection, as they are now, they are always claiming that, oh, i'm open to working with the president on issues where it's important for the american public. well, let me talk to them here. pompeo's nomination is a key issue for america. and though senators know, as well as i do, that he's more than a reasonable choice for secretary of state. he is an excellent choice. each of these senators should be called out and pressured to break with her leftist, radical colleagues for the good of the nation. and if they don't vote for pompeo, they are no more moderate than cory booker or elizabeth warren. and that's the "angle."

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common side effects are nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, decreased appetite, indigestion, and constipation. side effects can lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. change the course of your treatment. ask your doctor about victoza®. ♪ >> laura: let her go gentleman at the center of the starbucks racial controversy told their story on network tv this morning. they suggested that they were racially profiled when they failed to buy anything at the store and then refused to leave. the men were eventually arrested. so why isn't starbucks, who has been sympathetic to their story, releasing surveillance video from the store to back up their account? showed the employee be fired for calling the police to starbucks for defamation of character, sie she is now basically been called a racist? let's call them two lawyers to take both sides of the issue.

attorney david in los angeles believes that employees could have a case and the attorney in fort lauderdale disagrees. let's go to david d, i love having to davids on. let's go to david d, why is this a difficult defamation claim to make? >> is a very difficult defamation claim. it is all fun and games until the police show up and then unfortunately, under this circumstance, it was no longer fun and games. the reason why there is no defamation is starbucks has done presumably, that is who she would super defamation, they haven't said anything about her. they are in damage control, trying to save the reputation of their brand. you're such an extent they will close 8,000 of their stores on sunday to educate everybody. >> laura: we have to give the conversation really focused because closing of the stores, as fascinating as our training will be, is not relevant to the defamation claims. let's keep it really focused.

you said they didn't say anything about her. this is what howard schultz said yesterday about the manager. >> and i think we have to say, in looking at the tape, that she demonstrated her own level of unconscious bias. in looking at the tape, you ask yourself whether or not that in fact was racial profiling. there's no doubt in my mind the reason they were called was because they were african-american. >> laura: david w, it did make a comment. unless she had a pattern and practice of racist comments, races activities, racially profiling people, being rude to -- desperately to whites, blacks, latinos, i would take the case any day. go ahead. >> howard schultz, get out your checkbook because what this manager did was follow company policy to ats bald by their pio, spokesperson, when a noncustomer comes in using their

facility, as these two men dead, the bathroom, they are to be asked to leave, if they do not cooperate, do not leave, law enforcement is to be contacted. that is exactly what she did. law enforcement came, they asked me is meant to leave three times before they arrested those two men for trespassing. this woman now has been tarred and feathered as a racist by howard schultz with no evidence that ray said anything to do with it. she was fired. you are correct. she is a great defamation lawsuit. wrongful termination lawsuit. and worse than that, laura, what message is starbucks sending to employees? if you suspect something is going wrong, you better not call 911 or else he will be tarred and feathered as a racist and you will be fired. it is a horrible mess. that woman, i would take her lawsuit in a heartbeat. >> laura: see something, don't say something. [laughs] here is what dante robinson said on "good morning america." he was one of the gentleman who

was at starbucks. >> what do you say to some people who say the rules are rules, that starbucks has a policy, you violated the policy. the police asked you repeatedly to leave and you didn't. how do you respond to people who say that? >> what i say is, i understand that. rules are rules. but what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. and that's the end of the situation. whether there is race involved or anything. >> laura: i'm not following -- starbucks does have this policy, david, and now, what is an employee at starbucks do? you are in a difficult position, right? if you think -- the policy is, you have to buy something otherwise we can all you starbucks in their offices and ptech campers and said there all day on our laptops. it is a business. they do have seats for paying customers. is that now not allowed? we can't enforce that rule because anyone will be afraid to

do anything. >> that is a culture that starbucks has created. how many of us have met people at starbucks for business meetings and maybe not ordered something? i think starbucks -- >> laura: meet outside. you don't have a right to go and use -- you can't go to cafe milano, another example. cafe milano ndc, bring a brown bag lunch, and you meet at lunch and say, i don't want any thing, i meeting someone, you put out your bologna sandwich and you get your milk and you sit there, like, oh, no, i'm okay. how long before you get thrown out? >> what about a little diplomacy. did they need to be arrested? in order to be arrested -- >> laura: loitering. >> they could have just had them kicked out. next time -- >> laura: they ask him to leave and they wouldn't leave. >> somebody has to say, rest them. >> laura: the police can arrest them.

>> they weren't being quiet, let's face this. everything starbucks does is put through a filter of political correctness first. starbucks does not want picketing, protesting, social justice for years claiming at the races organization, so what they have done is thrown that manager under the bus, trashed a reputation, ruined her life, all in the interest of maintaining their corporate brand. you got a huge lawsuit and i guarantee you, that is going to be filed and hey, god bless the lawyer that takes it. >> laura: she might have signed a release. we are all attorneys. i bet starbucks, if i had to guess, don't you think they wrote her a check from a reader sign a release and said goodbye? they got some smart lawyers at starbucks. it's like stormy daniels, you can avoid the nondisclosure. guys, we are out of time. up next, we've got the fax to blow a hole in one of the left's

major of sanctuary cities. boy, that is heating up.

>> laura: a shocking development to bring you tonight in the immigration debate. the department of homeland security says that at least 142 suspected gang members were put on our street last year because

of sanctuary cities catch and release policy. unbelievable. now, that flies in the face of what democrats have repeatedly insisted as they are real true intent. >> anybody who comes into this country was undocumented, who has committed serious crimes, they need to be deported. >> i'm not offended criminals. i think that would be ludicrous. it doesn't make any sense. >> i believe there needs to be serious, severe, swift consequences when people commit violent crimes. if they are undocumented, they should be deported if they commit there was a and violent offenses. >> laura: let's get the real story. national border control president joins us from skype and his group sportsmen, hector garza, is in san antonio. gentlemen, i know it was bad, i didn't know it was this bad. but now we have the numbers, and the numbers do not live. brandon, let's start with you.

are you thinking at this point that democrats are going to start eating crow after all of these comments that, oh, we are not favor of that, that is not what century city policies actually do, that is not what they accomplish, every night, i hear something like this on this show. >> laura, they are never going to admit wrongdoing. what they will do is spin it the best way they can. but thank goodness for the citizens of california. thank goodness they are pushing back on they are giving president trump the ground that he needs to continue to go after these cities, these states, say we are not going to do this anymore, we are going to sue you, take you to court, we are going to get these policies declared illegal. thank goodness. >> laura: 37 jurisdictions, guys, are part of this. 37 jurisdictions, all but one are sanctuary jurisdictions. l.a. itself, you saw on that map, had 16, often had 11. santa clara, california, which we don't delineate it this way,

we do all the california all in one clara california, 22, montgomery county maryland, minutes from where we are broadcasting, five gang members released, 84 from the year 2012-2018, and the shadow from the nation's capital, those are ms-13. hector, let's go to you. >> the sanctuary policies encourage more illegal immigration and they encourage more crime within most cities. criminals know if they make it to california or to some of the sanctuary cities, they know that they are free from the law enforcement. they don't have to worry about law enforcement and they will not be deported. that is why these policies are very, very dangerous. we see these criminals being released and we see them crossing the border. we definitely need to secure the border. >> laura: in just a moment, i will share with our viewers the number of people who have crossed our border in march.

i almost fell out of my chair. first, i want to play jamil shaw's father, who was on "fox and friends" this morning, speaking about governor jerry brown, given the fact he says we won't pay for any national guard troops to do the work that donald trump wants us to do. let's watch. >> he just doesn't even care about the victims, the dead bodies are a piece of trash in the cemetery, and then he is defending these illegal alien gang bangers and criminals, holding them up like they are good people, knowing from day one they have broken to the country and then they pillaged the communities, no one does anything. >> laura: brandon, very quick reaction. >> first off, you have to feel for him. you have to feel for the family members of these victims. when you are talking about maryland, we had that girl that was raped in school and a bathroom. we have got to stop this, got to secure our border, got to get behind the president. >> laura: that case was -- i

think it was reported one way at first and then they had to -- there was plenty of other cases that are brutal and horrific. ripe in northern virginia and in montgomery county. i told you guys i would reveal the number of border crossers. interest march of this year, a huge spike, 37,393 people crashed into our country, many of them will be released back into society because of our ridiculous rule that has been abused. we don't have more time to get into that. fantastic segment, guys. we'll be right back.

>> laura: let's take a look at her tweet that came my way. from debbie. great show. loved your angle. i agree that mike pompeo is a fantastic, super qualified candidate for secretary of state. the democrats just want to be

obstinate. they can't stand the trump picks great nominees. mike pompeo should be confirmed and democrats who -- that's all the time we have. shannon bream and the fantastic "fox news @ night" team to get from here. >> shannon: thank you. i am shannon bream in washington we begin with a fox news alert. former fbi director james comey making multiple media appearances today at the very same time the department of justice he used torque for sending the media 15 pages of redacted memos he wrote about his meetings with president trump justice department inspector general except a criminal referral about fired fbi deputy director andrew mccabe to federal prosecutors. we have team coverage. chad pergram digging deep into the cold comey memos. all the intrigue tonight.