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guilty on three counts, second degree felonies and four of those, bill cosby could spend as much as 30 years in prison. it's 3:00 on the east coast, noon on the west coast. i'm shepard smith in new york. this is fox news channel's continuing coverage of the conviction of bill cosby on charges of aggravated sexual assault. we have been following the vehicle which is taking bill cosby back as was described in the courtroom to his primary resident. his passport has been taken. he's not allowed to leave. the judge will set a date and time for the beginning of what amounts to another trial. a trial specifically for the purposes of deciding the penalty for bill cosby. the judge will hear victim impact statements and beyond. people will give their thoughts
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on whether there should be leniency for whatever reason, aggravating and mitigating circumstances. as the associated press puts it, writing from morristown, bill cosby was convicted of drugging and molesting a woman in the first big celebrity trial of the #metoo era. completing the spectacular late-life down fall of a comedian who broke racial barriers in hollywood on his way to tv superstardom as america's dad. cosby, 80 years old, could end up spending his final years in prison after a jury concluded that he sexually violated andrea constand at his suburban philadelphia home way back in 2004. cosby claimed that the encounter was consensual. he stared straight ahead as the verdict was read. moments later lashed out and
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loudly at the district attorney, kevin steele and called him an a-hole after the prosecutor asked the former tv star being jailed immediately. cosby denied he has an airplane and said "i'm sick of him." no sentencing date has been set. you may have seen as cosby waved to the crowd outside the courthouse, got into the s.u.v. and left with no comment at all. his lawyer said the fight is not over and said that he will appeal. sheiks erupted in the courtroom when the verdict was announced and some of his accusers whimpered and cried. andrea constand remained stoic and hugged her lawyer and members of her prosecution team. we're expecting members of the team to speak directly. justice has been done, said the celebrity attorney, gloria
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allred. prosecutors put five other women on the stand who testified that bill cosby married now for 54 years drugged and violated them, too. one of these women asked through her tears, you remember, don't you, mr. cosby? the panel of seven men and five women reach the verdict after deliberating for 14 total hours over two days. vindicating prosecutor's decision to retry cosby after his first trial ended with a hung jury less than a year ago. as we have mentioned, bill cosby could get ten years in prison on each of the three counts of aggravated and decent assault. he's likely to get less than that under state guidelines. given his age, even a modest term could mean bill cosby will die behind bars. bryan llenas is live on scene and outside the courthouse.
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bryan? >> there were hundreds of people came out of nowhere cheering on as bill cosby left. he put his hand in the air after he was found guilty, guilty, guilty on all three indecent aggravated assault charges. this stemmed from the one case in 2004, andrea constand. a manager for basketball operations for temple, this jury of seven men and five women found that andrea was -- they believed her. they believed her testimony. there wasn't a lot of physical evidence. it was her testimony. she sat there in the court, not just this time but the trial last summer as well and took those questions in across examination and she said she wanted to do this for justice. she said that bill cosby gave her a pill in his home in 2004,
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drugged her and sexually assaulted her. this jury after 14 hours of deliberation believed her. again, we talked about this, shep. you talked about the me too movement and the importance of this given the context of where we are in society and culture. gloria allred said finally, women are to be believed. it's important to know that with this retrial, this was an aggressive tone coming from business cosby's defense attorney. the attorneys really went after not only andrea constand saying she should have been responsible to have gotten a test or gone to a doctor was a she was allegedly raped. they also went after the five other women that accused bill cosby that were allowed to testify in this case going after janet dickinson who said "she looked like a woman that slept with every man on the planet." going after another accuser
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saying she's here, she's been raped after he touched her hair after having two drinks. they went after another of the five accusers. just to give you an idea how tough the defense was, what is a married doing hanging out with bill cosby? you can get a sense of how aggressive this defense was for bill cosby, going after the accusers. a victory for many of those with gloria allred and andrea constand that said she did this not for money, not for anything else but for justice. she was stoic inside the courtroom when the verdict came out. bill cosby as well stoic. lillie bernard said this is a victory for womanhood and all sexual assault survivors. in context of everything happening a big moment here and
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a surprise, as you mentioned. this last trial last summer ended with a hung jury. 52 hours of deliberation and they could not come up with a verdict. here 14 hours and they seemingly they believed andrea constand over bill cosby. that's what it couple down to. they believed her as victim on the stand. >> bryan llenas on scene. thanks so much. we are less than two minutes away from a prosecutor news conference which we'll have live on fox news channel. a little context. you can't really overstate what an enormous personality and figure in american life bill cosby was. i want to take you to 1987. happened to be year i graduated college. i never did. i was getting out. and william henry cosby jr. was
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presented by an honorary doctors from american studies, richard sulkin as wesleyan college. bill cosby addressed a crowd of more than 7,000, including his daughter. the commencement book listed her to receive a bachelor of arts. she described comment. today in response to the finding of guilty on all three kinds of guilty, the president of that university is to request that the board of trustees revoke cosby's honorary degree, which the university awarded him on that day in 1987. the first of many accolades to fall, no doubt. he already had been the temple university -- temple university distanced themselves from cosby. he raised untold millions for this university. he brought great notice to this university.
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he was known to wear a temple university jersey or a temple had, often seen at sporting events there. now removing itself from him and over time others will as well. we don't yet know when a sentencing date -- alissa kaplan was inside the courtroom. do we have an idea when a judge will set a date and whether we will witness these victim impact statements or if cameras will be allowed? >> cameras will definitely not be allowed. they're not allowed in courtrooms in philadelphia. i keep refreshing the court's website. it's not posted yet and he didn't make mention in court. >> shepard: you said, lissa, that bill cosby is to remain at his primary residence? >> that's what they said.
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that's the locate listed on the bail application. they want to ensure he's there. >> shepard: pardon the intervention. here's the district attorney. we want to listen live now after the conviction of bill cosby, the prosecutor speaks. >> thank you all for being here in our grand jury room. andrea constand came here to norristown for justice. that's what 12 jurors from montgomery county provided her. i'd be remiss if i didn't thank first those 12 jurors for their diligence, the sacrifice that they made and the sacrifices of
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their families so that they could serve in this important duty that they did. we're finally in a place to say that justice was done. as prosecutors, we have a responsibility to seek justice. we have to go wherever and to whomever it takes us. to begin, i want to step back to a point that was pretty decisive in this case. that's when the judge released the civil case deposition. indicated in his opinion that the defendant's deposition showed the stark contrast between bill cosby, the public moralist and bill cosby, the subject of serious allegations concerning improper and perhaps criminal conduct. at that point, the prosecutors,
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who are here to do the right thing, and specifically my predecessor opened up and reopened this investigation. that is a duty but that duty took courage. because she had to open up a case against a powerful man. i can say definitively, that's one of the things that is done over and over again in the montgomery county district attorney's office. we have zone from our record that money and power won't stop you from prosecution or prosecuting a case. what was revealed in the investigation is a man that spent decades preying on women, that he drugged and sexually
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assaulted and a man that evaded this moment here today for too long. he's used his celebterty, used his wealth and supporters to help him conceal his crimes i now we know today who is behind that act, who the real bill cosby was. a jury has spoken with one voice. in a court of law and found the defendant guilty of drugging and sexually assaulting andrea constand in his elkins park home. there's a number of people up here. i'm going to address as many of this as i can. this is part of a team that worked tirelessly to get us to this point. the most important person in this is andrea constand. there you are.
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14 years later it may be easy to forget that she was that first courageous person that stood up in public to go to the authorities and say that bill cosby drugged and sexually assaulted her. her courage, her resilience in the face of horrible and unfounded attacks upon her and her family has been so inspiring to all of us. we thank her, we thank her family, we thank her mother for trusting us through this process of prosecuting her attacker. standing next to her there is deloris who with beebe were the ones that were asking the questions in that deposition
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that the judge was referring to that got us to the point where we were able to reopen this case and seek justice. standing with her through this whole process has been a lot of other courageous women who are willing to stand up and tell their stories about being drugged and sexually assaulted or raped. 19 were willing to stand up with us in this prosecution, take the witness stand. we're humbled by the courage all of these showed. and we can't help but applaud and celebrate the courage of the five witnesses that had a chance to face bill cosby in this case, to tell the jury, to tell all of
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you what he did to them. so heidi thomas, janice dickerson, janice baker kenny and lisa lubland. the public thanks all of them i i called each of them after the verdict. i was not able to talk to all of them, but they know what they've done. they know what their courage helped all of us do. so supporting all of these women have been the victim advocates. the victim's groups, the women's groups, the anti-rape groups. so many others. each of these groups play such an important role in supporting his women and helping them heal from the ordeal that they have been put through. those are the ones that we oat a
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debt of gratitude for their strength, for their resilience through this entire process as well as every day. because they stand with us, they work with the victims and they make a difference in their lives. i'm very greatful to stand here before you with this team. again, it's not all of our team who worked to see that justice was done. we had to work to overcome many legal hurdles thrown at us by many defense lawyers that have been on this case the past 28 months. this time from the lawyers of four different law firms and each step of the way we fought for the opportunity for the victims to be heard. the opportunity to get this case to a jury, an opportunity to be standing before all of you after hearing the defendant had been convicted of three counts of
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aggravated indecent assault. this team has been incredible. i can't say enough about the prosecutors, the staff that despite everything that was thrown at us, at them, stayed the course. i own the ball. worked to get us here today. i'm so incredibly proud of these talented people. they're committed always to do the right thing for the right reasons. and i'm going to have to start with -- i think i heard them refer to recently as thunder and lightning. [laughter] so mr. ryan here on my left. he heads our family protection unit. you know, he's prosecuted a lot of cases. sexual assaults, rapes and those
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have been drugged and sexual assault cases. he's been with our office six years and just is one of the best. you saw some of that talent coming across throughout this trial i got reports on how i looked as i was watching what they did. the other thing i enjoyed doing is coaching. you know, you get to these points you work with kids, you work with young adults, and you get to that point where you put them out on the field or on to the court. there's not much you can do at
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that point other than watch. i could not have been more proud of what they did. throughout this whole thing and some of the cross examination that you all got to see. some of the quick-witted remarks were something. i think even caused jurors to laugh when testimony was being coming back on things. where they had the ability here disclosing. kristin here. so we wouldn't be here if not for her. i say that because when we came back to look at this case, judge
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furman asked kristin and our team to go to toronto to meet with andrea. that was a difficult task. when kristin came back, she was adamant, adamant about what we should do. we moved forward. it was the right thing to do, and she has stuck through this the whole way. she had an opportunity, which was kind of a bad day for me when she had a great opportunity for her and her family to go to
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an excellent law firm. we talked a lot. kristin did not want to leave this. and not see it to the end. we talked to bill sasso, the chairman of the firm who we all owe a debt of gratitude to for allowing her to stay on with us and stay with us through this case. and you have seen the results of that. she, like mr. ryan here, has prosecuted so many sexual assaults, domestic violence cases. she's always stood up for victims and has continued to do this. i couldn't have found two better partners through this, two better people, two better
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prosecutors to walk this journey with. their commitment to doing the right thing has been extraordinary. i got to talk about this one and the one on the end. our deputy district attorney, bob fallon, the captain of our appellate unit. i don't know if you noticed throughout the course of this, but we have seen what seemed like hundreds of motions from the beginning when the charges were filed throughout the last days of trial and these incredible legal minds have found the law that we needed to support our positions despite the many law firms and lawyers that have made it difficult for
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us to get to this point. gave supported our positions to keep it moving forward. they kept up with all of the lawyers have thrown at us and did it with just amazing grace. we've seen them in court. you've seen what they can do. and there's been some pretty memorable writing along the way from each of them and you all saw a difference maker, too. just did a stellar job to get us in the position that we're in. our law enforcement community. some of them are up here with me. all the -- show of hands. sergeant schaffer who you saw
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testified on the stand. behind that testimony is thousands of hours of work, interviews, analysis and just plain good police work to put together the case that he did. our partners in this have been the leaders of that place department. now chief frye who has walked this walk with us and before him, john norris, the chief who did the work and -- when we looked to open up this case, he was adamant on what we should do and where we should go with it. and he is a great man. we have quiet one over there. former chief shade with our department and detective reid who i heard may be your birthday
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today. yeah. we're all going to sing happy birthday now. just kidding. and these detectives worked really hard to reopen this case and throughout the whole process. i couldn't be more proud of the entire investigative team. they are -- they're supported by the lieutenant from our major crimes, deputy chief, mark burns steele who has handled so many of these efforts, all the support that they provide and have picked up in this. beyond the guilty verdict, there's been some other important outcomes in this case. as we understand, this has been
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important for sexual assault victims -- >> shepard: on the left-hand side of your screen, we believe bill cosby has arrived at his home in pennsylvania, north of the city of philadelphia. we don't know if his wife is at home. we know that she was not in the courthouse today and was not there for many of the proceedings. you can see him getting out of the back seat. embracing those that help him along. bill cosby, 80 years old. shaking hand with some of those that have been with him throughout this lengthy ordeal. holding on as he's taken toward the house. they're aware that the choppers have been following them. now the door opened for him. bill cosby returns home. he's out on bail, a convicted felon three times over. he drugged and sexually violated a woman. he is a felon and a convicted
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one for it. the prosecutors continue their discussion inside the jury room at the courthouse. >> our actions have shown that we will stand up with those victims. all women that are out there standing up and telling their truth. i, we, support them and encourage them, to keep it up. i hope now everybody recognizes that here you're going to be treated with dignity and respect through the process. another outcome has been increased look at rapeness or sexual assaultness. and the myth that a victim of sexual assault, especially by someone they knew or trusted will immediately report it to the authorities that they will behave in a certain way or they will never talk to anyone ever
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aga again. we've dispelled that here. that's because that's false. that's not always the way it goes. too often those types of crimes, sexual assault, don't get reported, especially when a drug has been used, an intoxicant so the victim doesn't have a clear memory of what went on. we hope this case send a strong message so the victims of these crimes can come forward and be heard on what happened to them. so there was a defendant in this case. the next steps. a sentencing date will be issued by the judge. that is typically within about a 60 to 90-day period of time on when the sentencing date will come. in the interim, he will be
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looked at and assessed in a couple ways. there's a present tensing investigation that will be done. a sexually violent predator assessment that will be done. all of these are standard procedures in these type of cases. these assessments will be used by the judge in determining the sentence, and that sentencing hearing, we'll have the opportunity to put evidence on as will the defense. the defendant may be facing years in prison. he was convicted of three counts of this. so technically that would be up to 30 years. however, we have to look at merger of those counts defer what the final maximum will be that he's facing. so in addition to jail time
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and -- i mention this because there's been some things that have been asked about it over time. you know, typically what is done in a case is that a defendant will be assessed and all of these things will be looked at in terms of a sentencing. but when a sentencing occurs, there's also an assessment for the cost of prosecution. we expect that we'll be arguing that the costs associated with both the trials, the sequestration, the sheriff's costs for this will go to the defendant. i will be relying on the defense counsel's opening remarks in this when he talked about $3.38 million being a paltry sum or simply a nuisance.
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so clearly the cost of prosecution in this matter should not be a problem for the defendant. deloris, you wanted to say something here. >> good afternoon. i know it's going to be disappointing to you but i have the privilege of speaking for andrea. andrea will not be speaking today. only i will. first of all, we have to thank montgomery county for doing what they have done. kevin, kristin and the many lawyers in the da's office who have been diligent about bringing about this just result. i can't even begin to name all the people that have worked on this case. we also -- i'm doing this on behalf of myself and my co-counsel, b.b.kivis.
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unfortunately moved to philadelphia and is probably stuck on the schuylkill as we people or she would also be here. we also want to thank all the police officers that have dedicated themselves to the case. sergeant schaffer, detective shade and the many others unnamed that all contributed to what has happened here today. most of all, i want to express on behalf, if i can, the gratitude of so many women who admire andrea for her courage. she came here 14 years ago for justice. i am so happy today that i can say that although justice was delayed, it was not denied. it took a lot of courage for her to come back and to do this. there are so many people who have expressed their admiration nor her.
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the millions and i do mean millions of people that have admired her courage, admired her calm and demeanor. i ask you to bear in mind that when something like this happens to someone, male, female, whomever, they have to work every day to be happy. something that we all who have been fortunate in our lives have not been victimized do not have to do. when you see andrea and you have all commented about how calm she is, how graceful she is, that is something that she's had to work out every day since january of 2004, probably january 6 or 7, when this happened to her. this is a life-altering experience for any woman, any victim. she need to be heralded for what
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she's done is andrea. >> we'll take questions. >> when you were in the moment when this verdict was being read, take us back. there was an exchange, what was going through your mind? >> when the verdict comes back, you're always anxious. i kept the verdict sheet in front of me and checked them off as they're read. it a some -- solemn moment. it's hard work for a jury. 12 ordinary folks from our community that came in and
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served. so i didn't react. i won't under those circumstanc circumstances. we heard the verdict. i'm just grateful for what they did and that all that they did. i have never seen the attacks that were levied on people that were coming forward to describe how they were sexually assaulted. when that happened, i was concerned. i was really concerned that we're not moving past the vestiges of what happened before, that people wouldn't get it.
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i think they listened to the doctor, they heard what was real and what was false. they were strong when they came back. they were polled meaning every one of them was asked whether they agreed to the verdict. all i heard from each of them was strength. i'm grateful for that and grateful for what they all did and the commitment that they gave to montgomery county, our citizens and our communities. >> during the discussion of bail, an incredible outburst by the defendant. throughout your opening and closing statements, you said this is not america's dad. >> you got to see a brief view of who he was. that is just him acting out.
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i think everybody got to see who he really is when each of those prior bad act witnesses got to testify. the guy was an actor for a long time. it was an act. we got to see who he really was. >> having standing here before us, you speak with emotion in your voice especially talking about andrea, you speak with tears in your eyes. describe what this process has been like for you, especially the critics who didn't think it was worth retrying this case. >> we had to investigate a case,
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make determinations on what happened and move forward and that's our job, that's our duty. and i hope that it -- as graceful way as we could despite what was being thrown at us and being thrown at a number of people. but i'm not going to get into nonsense with him on that. >> do you think other prosecutors he look at this case in dealing with allegations of sexual assault? >> i don't know. i mean, i can't speak for anyone else. but i can tell you it's been an interesting start to becoming district attorney. i've had a couple of cases here
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that have been with powerful people as most of you know. you know, i tried a case where the chief law enforcement officer of the state had committed crimes. we had to go in. that's not the most comfortable place to be when you have to tear apart your profession in some ways. she was a prosecutor. but i think that's just an example of we're going to go where the investigations take us. we are going to look to see who has committed a crime, whether they're powerful, whether they're wealthy, whether they have evaded the law in the past.
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we just have to do our job. i hope if anything comes from this, you can move forward on these cases when you do, i've now had two juries stand up against the powerful and say guilty on every single count that has been alleged against them. i think that's a recognition of the fact that we're doing the right thing and the fact that the juries understand the significance of this. >> >> [question inaudible] >> we're going -- >> first, your concerns -- >> and i said it in court. i'm concerned when there is somebody with the wealth and the aspects of being a potential
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risk of flight because of what he's facing. the judge made a determination and i respect his determination that that could be satisfied by him remaining in montgomery county for the present. we'll have to take a look at it. >> it's not necessarily a closed issue for you? >> no. these things never are. we have cases every day where people are out on bail and they commit new crimes. they try to flee or they do something along those lines. we have to be vigilant and make sure that we're keeping an eye on every aspect of this so that we can be prepared if something like that happens. yes, sir. >> tom mesereau said the fight is not over. many people have pointed at the bad act witnesses being a
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vulnerability on appeal. do you feel confident that that won't expose you to problems on appeal? >> so i mentioned them before. we have our deputy district attorney, bob fallon, captain of our unit. adrian jappe. i'll put them up against anybody. anybody. they walked with us through this. we asked for 19. we felt that we had the grounds for 19 or we wouldn't be asking-to it. we're appreciative that five women got to voice what occurred to them in the courtroom. this is a case where there were so many more.
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>> do you expect to have more women testify at the sentencing? would that be more appropriate -- >> potentially. that's something i'm not going to say what we're asking for in terms of sentencing. that's all the assessments that need to be done. you do the presentencing investigation and the victims should have a voice in this to make a determination of what the appropriate request is at the time. that's all we'll go through between now and when the sentencing date is. >> more victims can be heard -- >> potentially can. it's also an area that is somewhat gray in pennsylvania. we've heard testimony in effect
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from five other women at this point. you know, i think that goes into the consideration. we'll be assessing it. and our appellate unit will tell us what we're allowed to do and not allowed to do. i can't speak about investigative matters. i'll leave it at that. >> a vastly different trial than the first one. speak about the importance of the five women testifying and the con artist claims of the margo jackson testimony. >> so you all got to hear from someone who i think very highly
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of. dr. barbara ziv. the legislature in their wisdom has given us the ability to have an expert in this area educate a jury. you saw that as our number 1 witness, our first witness in this case. i think in the process she was able to explain the situation. and then when you heard from the different people and you saw what the defense was trying to do, despite those sexual assault myths that lie out there, i think there's a recognition -- again, i hope it's not a tact that continues because it didn't work. it's a situation where it was a different trial. we were able to do that on the
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front end of the case. i think that's the benefit of having done this once before. >> without the legislature making that change only a few years ago to allow someone like here -- >> that would be a better question for the jurors on how impactful she was. to us, it was very important and something that we kept going back to and looking at you know, kristin did the direct examination from her. we went back to that report that she did a lot. it was significant in showing what the real science is behind this and how this goes.
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dr. valier is another great expect in this arena. it's important that he's messages get out, that that's what this is. maybe at some point we won't need to put on an expert to educate the jury. we'll recognize that the sexual assault myths are not real. we should be looking at everything that happens to somebody who has been sexually assaulted. >> any chance that marguerite jackson will face perjury charges? >> can't talk about investigations. >> [question inaudible]
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>> i appreciate being on home court. i do. we have a great community here. we have a community that supports law enforcement. we have a community of people that sacrifice so much, to think going into this you're going to be removed from your family as the defense kept saying for a month. it's a huge sacrifice to make. they're willingness to do that, as you said, to pay the wrap, the attention to what they did, to every step of the way. we're just grateful. i'm grateful that we live in this community.
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i'm grateful that we get to choose jurors like that who do the right thing. that's what happens here. it happens over and over again. yeah, it was great being on the home court. >> mr. steele, what is your message to prosecutors in other jurisdictions whether it be new york city, los angeles, chicago, chester county, who may view these cases as historically difficult to prosecute? after today, what is your message to any prosecutor that may be on the fence about pushing forward about a case of this nature? >> i'm not here to send messages to my colleagues. we're in a great community of prosecutors, particularly in pennsylvania.
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all i can tell you about that is the incredible outpouring of support that i've gotten every step of the way along this journey. they've been great. you know, i look at our colleagues in the attorney general's office. you know, how they have walked this walk with us. michelle henry, for example, who tried the king case with me. you know, each step of the way, these folks are here to support. so i don't think it's any time to send a message to them. we're all working the cases together and each person has to deal with it in their own jurisdictions. >> what are your thoughts to the victims out there? they said that there were character assassinations in that courtroom. if someone feels too scared to come forward at this time, it's
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a chilling effect. >> i will not cause someone to refrain from coming forward. we got to the right result in this. and yeah, it's difficult. people were put through character assassination. it was very difficult to sit through and watch. you have to show courage like this lady. she stepped up, went forward and we got to the right result.
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we stayed through this. she didn't have to start down this journey with us. she didn't have to come here for the first trial. she didn't have to come here for the second trial. but she did. and others have been victimized and see that courage and see where it can get. and sometimes you feel like that's just us. looking for that. a lot of people are working against you to that end. but despite each of these legal hurdles, these things that happen across the way, you know, we got here. we got to all sit in that courtroom and hear the defendant convicted of all of the offenses. found guilty. i think that's important for
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victims to know and understand, that we're going to stand with them, we're going to walk this journey with them. and do the best that we can and treated them with dignity and respect. >> you talked about what that was like to mark off on your sheet, for each count of guilty. describe the moment when you finally turned and faced andrea after you heard the verdict. >> i waited until we got upstairs and i gave her a hug. >> what was it like knowing that the d.a. in 2005 was trying to prosecute and you guys made a point of apologizing to andrea and hanging her? how do you think she was treated? you know, he didn't have the courtesy to let andrea constand
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know they were pulling the plug. there were press releases that she was threatened with arrests herself. you know, there were a lot of hurdles you had to overcome to get here. what does this mean? how do you think -- >> i'll say on that on behalf of our office, we are sorry for what happened then. but we got a chance to make up for it. hopefully we have. hopefully we have. all right. thank you, everybody. >> thank you.
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>> shepard: kevin steele, the montgomery county, pennsylvania district attorney racked with emotion today after all that he's been through. kimberly gilfoil, you had to have felt some of what he was feeling there. he seemed emotionally spent. >> that's how you feel. you spend so much time, the struggle going through this and going through it with your victims. you're there for them in every way. there's good days and very bad days. you see people that try to dirty the victim and say salacious things to make them afraid or intimidate them from not coming forward. that's what we talk about the bravery of women and children and sexual assault cases and domestic violence. they're the toughest cases to go forward especially when you think about the nature of the allegations, the charges, how just violative it is and talk
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about what happened to you and the shame that you felt going through it. it's particularly offensive and just vile are people that are sexually violent predators, people that prey on others and try to drug them for purposes of committing a sexual assault. to put you in the most vulnerable position so you would do something that you would never know willingly. can you imagine how you would feel? to have to come forward to testify about it when the person that committed this heinous act against you did it knowing it would be hard to recollect and identify so that they could get away with their crime to choose another victim and do it again. that's what this case was about, showing pattern, the m.o., the bad acts evidence that the judge allowed in in front of this
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jury, compelling persuasive, five women that he chose to make sure in terms of surviving this case on appeal that had very similar circumstances to the victim in this case. >> shepard: kimberly, thanks very much. we'll see you in an hour. let's bring in a federal white collar defense attorney. on appeal, time thoughts. >> on appeal, look, tom mesereau is not letting this go. he will appeal the fact that judge o'neal let in five bad act character witnesses. it was emotional to watch kevin steele there just in juxtaposition to the 2016 press conference that he did after the hung jury. we saw a victory here for the prosecution and everybody is liking that. >> shepard: i watched the team all around them. it appeared all of them -- i don't know all of their names but every single one of them had been like they had been through
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the wringer. to see this last gesture from bill cosby, the cane in the area just after tom mesereau, his attorney, the attorney that achieved the acquittal for michael jackson back in the day saying this is not over and we will appeal. watching the ride to bill cosby's home where he's to stay. he no longer has a passport. he will be held to the sentencing phase. the prosecutor said within 60 days or so. the judge will let us know possibly by the close of business today when that sentencing hearing might be. it's hard really to wrap your head around this man that was america's dad, with the jell-o pudding pops and the big smile on his face and the crazy sweaters. so looked up to, so admired. we know he would drug and rape women, women convicted at least
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of one. what you don't know about people sometimes can be astounding. to our correspondent bryan llenas and our eyes and ears, lissa kaplan, thanks for trusting us for news and information. "your world" with neil cavuto begins now. >> neil: dr. huxtable, we barely knew you. he was always america's dad. today bill cosby playing a far different more damning role. the first and perhaps most stunning fall from grace victim of the me too era. found guilty of drugging and assaulting a woman at his home some 14 years ago. this is "your world." i'm neil cavuto that woman, andrea constand, at the at the time, a temple university employee he mentored. it turned south very quickly. that case unlike my other women who made similar charges, but none of which seemed to stick seemed
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