>> martha: that's our story for tonight. we'll see you back here tomorrow night at 7:00. tucker carlson is ready to go. have a good night. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." wrapper kanye west has spent four days posting pro trump content on twitter. first, bret baier just had a deeply revealing interview with former fbi director jim comey. during that interview, comey said that it was not central to their quest for a fisa warrant with people affiliated with the trump campaign. speak what you called the dossier unverified, salacious. why would you use that for

carter page? you lead with it. why? >> that's not my recollection. i don't know the fisa application -- it was part of a broader fact that was laid before the judge. >> there was more than the dossier? >> my recollection is that there was a significant amount about the page and there is probable cause to believe that he was part of it. >> tucker: i don't know it's hiding behind government secrecy again. trey gowdy represents south carolina. he joins us tonight. mr. chairman, thanks for coming on. what did you learn from it? >> a couple of things. page and strzok he would have fired immediately.

those investigations should have been canned. director comey's recollection is flawed. he needs to get his orders to go back and look at the transcript. we did not miss here, maybe he misspoke, but that's in the transcript. the double standard that he's had for the last couple of weeks still exist. if trump tells any lies at all, it's a remedy for him. >> tucker: martha stewart went to prison for lying. he doesn't remember when he first heard about the steel dossier, is that possible? >> if he learned about it in the fall of 2016, it was already known that the democrats had

been tipped off on that. whoever briefed him, why would you just say it includes the democrats finishing it? the part of it not being part of the fisa application, why did you use it at all? it was just wrong. it was an indispensable part of the application period. >> tucker: how can he claim otherwise? his first reaction is you can't prove me wrong because you and the rest of civilians are asking these questions and you don't have access to the relevant information. you do, you've seen it. that forms a central part of the request. correct? >> there are three parts of it. this is one of the parts. they lead with it and it

occupied a disproportionately large part of that. i go back and ask if it wasn't important, then why did you use it? why did you use it and why did you lead with it? >> tucker: lets a strip away the politics so we can see clearly. at the core is the allegation of carter page, the hapless carter page was acting as the former director said tonight, the agent of a foreign power. is that a plausible claim question what do you think any reasonable person can reach the conclusion that carter page is a russian agent? >> it would be tough. i think most people who have any experience with carter page which would include the fbi because they've interviewed him on a number of occasions, you would be more likely to call him a clown than a spy. i don't say that to be disparaging toward him. i spend a lot of time with him. if anyone needed his fifth

amendment right to counsel, if anyone needed a lawyer, it would be carter page. he's not james bond. he's not jason bourne. it's sad actually. >> tucker: if a top law enforcement official can say with a straight face that carter page is a foreign spy and represents a threat to american national security, he's lying it sounds like. >> i don't call -- i'm probably bias toward law enforcement. go ahead and run it out. the challenge when you're going to spy on american citizens, needs to be more than a lead. you need to have probable cause and make proper representations to the court. the only thing i will tell you is i learned that jim comey has has a definition of the word leaked that no one else has. what he says is a leak as with the rest of us call a felony.

leaking is disclosing a confidential conversation which is exactly what he did. >> tucker: i'm glad you shared your reaction to this. thank you for coming on. during the interview, comey also had this to say about andrew mccabe. watch. >> he represented himself under tremendous stress after i was fired. i read the ig report as you did and included that he had not been candid. this is what accountability looks like. >> what you said it in the claim case. >> i was the director of the fbi. i should not be calling for the prosecution of people in a case they are not involved in, but i do believe that the ig will likely refer or has referred to a u.s. attorney's office and look at it.

>> tucker: julian epstein, thanks for coming on. this is about the comey. it concerns all americans. i don't think you can watch this interview and not come away with grave concerns about the civil liberties for all americans. >> i think brett did a wonderful job. new criticisms that have come out, i watched a little bit of coverage on the network was that he wasn't fully revealing about the steel dossier and the fisa application. i think the facts are relevant that it was an investigation. democrats took it over and the fisa application for carter pag page -- he had said that he was

regularly in touch with russian intelligence. i think the intelligence agencies need more information than we do. i think it's part of an ongoing investigation. >> tucker: i expect to know if you destroy a man's reputation, his livelihood -- as we've done with carter page but you better tell me how it's a threat to national security and he hasn't. >> the point of the matter with comey -- >> tucker: does it bother you that an american citizen has been destroyed on the basis of no evidence of wrongdoing? if you think that could happen to him, it could happen to me. >> a lot of what has come out

has been to their best interest interests. >> tucker: these are questions that liberals used to worry about. and they've stopped because they hate trump. everything is okay. you should care about carter page regardless of his iq, political affiliation, so this guy -- no one will stand up for him and for what? there is no evidence he did anything wrong. >> they believe they are using him as a dupe. he had that information since 2014 as part of the public statements he's made himself. >> tucker: once you've implied he's working for russia, you better prove he did something wrong.

>> i think he said as much himself. page end 2014 included that he was in contact with russian intelligence. are you? why would an american citizen be in touch? >> tucker: you must be kidding. the number of foreign until operatives in this city dealing with american citizens including you and me and everyone else is overwhelming. >> what you're going to tell me, this is an interesting conversation. you told me that a russian intelligence agent comes to you and start having regular conversations, you're not going to report that to the fbi? >> tucker: i'm a loyal american, i've done nothing to betray my country. my point is, he has done

something to betray his country. what we're doing is destroying people for political end and the leftists standing by because they hate trump. i'm telling you we're losing something really important. >> what we're talking about here is an intelligence agency getting a warrant from an article three judge, fisa court judge who believed that there was probable cause. >> tucker: this is all -- none of those are turned down. people like the comey and destroyers of civil liberties like him and all the people are saying it's a secret, learn. >> i'm all for disclosure. >> tucker: you would be as upset, as you should be right now.

>> there's lots of investigations in the world that have occurred. sometimes it's legitimate, sometimes illegitimate. nobody has said the investigation into carter page as a legitimate. the question that bret was asking comey tonight was when did you know that democrats were sponsoring the investigation? >> tucker: this has been going on for years. look right in the camera and say carter page graduated and did nothing wrong. >> i think you're losing a lot of viewers in this conversation. >> tucker: it's getting scary.

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media company to its knees. in an epic four day rampage through cyberspace, he shared videos by scott adams posting a photograph of himself in a make america great again hat and earned two retweets from the president of the united states. progressives are almost unconscious with rage. "rolling stone" magazine calls west's tweets or real threat. author and columnist mark steyn knows it's a threat. what are his tweets a threat to? >> there a threat to the lockstep of popular culture in the united states. to some extent, i'm not unsympathetic to that. some people are mocking us conservatives because when some beatniks dig like kanye west

come on, we all get so excited. he's giving us the eye. i love the fact that -- i remember in the 2000 election going to the republican convention and being given the folder to show which celebritie celebrities -- it was a detective piece of paper with two names on one side. it was pat boone and one of the oak ridge boys. seven of them are democrats there was something terribly

refreshing and having no purchase on pop culture. the fact is, we are not really excited. it's not so much the excitement from our end. it's the fact that kanye is a sick of being told what to thin think. the celebrity supporters are getting smaller and smaller and smaller. and a self-respecting man like this guy is, he doesn't want to be put in that box. he wants to bust out of that bo box. >> tucker: are you saying art is not the same thing as conformity? >> i am. oddly enough, it's strange because we're going on about how transgressive we are. we need transgressive artists and then they demand that all of the artists improve the ideolog ideology. in a way, it's obvious

correction. trump is a showbiz figure. he did beauty pageants and a reality show. he's on the regis philbin christmas album firing blitzen and hiring the rudolph the red nose reindeer. the man is on the christmas album. if you think about it from kanye's point of view, he walks into a room and there is chuck schumer and there is elizabeth warren and any other corner is donald trump, who is he going to go and talk to a question mark he's going to talk to trump. in a sense, this is a natural correction to the insanity that the celebrity left has maintained. >> tucker: that's why they hate trump, he's so off grid that he represented the possibility of a real alignment and they hate that. that's a threat to their business, so that's why they

shut down any affinity for him because otherwise, this could happen. >> the rolling stone pieces, he's really scared. the pop-culture acts as a great enforcer in america and everyone knows that culture is the upstream of politics. when anthony kennedy licenses -- when shania twain a couple of days ago, she gives an interview to the guardian saying if she had been american, she is clubbed into a pulp and is made to apologize and back down.

that's pathetic. man, i feel like a woman. man, i feel like a celebrity who has the guts to stand up to thi this. >> tucker: i always learn something. enqueue. disaster over at nbc which joey read is getting worse and worse. now the fbi is involved. we'll talk about that coming up next but i'm relentless too. mbc doesn't take a day off, and neither will i. and i treat my mbc with new everyday verzenio- the only one of its kind that can be taken every day.

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hacking. not a good idea. her story is a hoax. now nbc and joy reid are using the fbi perpetuate that hoax. some have called for her to be fired for all of this. we are not among them because we are not joy reid. if she can push a button and yank this show off the air forever, is there any doubt she would do that? of course not. she would do that in a second. that's not how we feel about this. we are not progressives, so silencing people we disagree with is not our goal and never has been our goal. we don't share her views on pretty much anything, but we don't want to personally destroy her and we don't want partiallyw boycotted. we know what it's like to be on the wrong side of a howling twitter mob. it's a lonely place and increasingly, it's a commonplace

in modern america unfortunately. still, we wish they would stop lying and not just a lion, but lying in the most insultingly obvious way. your 8-year-old could tell more convincing wise than nbc new does and probably feel more guilty about it. buck sexton used to work with the cia. if you were making up a fake story like this and pretending it was saboteurs who put him words in your mouth, would you double down and get the fbi involved? >> no, it's going to create more problems for her much greater problems for her than what we saw initially. as you pointed out, a lot of folks would have accepted an apology from her and instead, she may have created legal trouble which clearly nobody was suggesting was the case from the get-go. it is a crime to lie to federal agents and even filing a false report is a crime. whether or not the fbi would

choose to go forward with that charge, how quickly they move on this is also another thing. just because she sounds like she's really upset over this doesn't mean it goes to the top of the list. >> tucker: it's almost like when a lie gets out of control, what is the fbi -- we know that her blog was not hacked. no one hacked it 12 years ago. the fbi comes in, they take a look at all of this and decide that it's a hoax, what do they do then? >> i think it's very unlikely. a lot of false statement cases, you're going to see somebody who is the target of the false allegation and that's why they might actually punish the person who levels it. in this case, joy reid is

accusing the unknown mysterious cyber entity, she might as well say the russians while she's at it. she's making it up us she goes along. the fbi has more important things to do than this. i will say this, think about it from her perspective. now that she has this investigating, may be a few days past, may be a few days past. i don't think they really care all that much. they might have one agent, a field office here take a look at it and say okay, nothing here and therefore, she can run out the clock with this because if they don't press charges and she lives to fight another day at msnbc as a result of the delay, it's actually a tactic. >> tucker: when the chinese military takes on the new york stock exchange, i'm going to ask the fbi, were you too busy investigating -- buck sexton,

thank you. i hope you'll come back. >> great to see you. >> tucker: a question tonight to a story we brought you yesterday about alleged sexual harassment at the center for american progress. we said 19 people had accused multiple individuals of sexual harassment. currently, only one has been accused. buzzfeed did the interview of 19 people for their story, but not all of them claimed abuse. the piece says there were several instances of sexual harassment. no exact number given, so we want to be clear about that. really more about this and of course will bring you those updates. a document at google reveals the company try to suppress concepts like individual achievements and objectivity. that story is amazing and it's up next. bigger and bigger,

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>> tucker: fist just broke. the leaders of north and south korea have made history tonight. kim jong un has crossed the zone to meet his counterpart. the south korean president of the same. that hasn't happened. it's meant to reduce hostilities on the peninsula. obviously we'll follow this all night. in recent years, the digital video monopoly youtube which is part of the digital search monopoly google has been accused of trying to silence conservative viewpoints. content providers have found themselves censored. youtube denies doing any of this on purpose. it was accidental. they say we have no political agenda. it turns out that's a lie. this show has exclusively obtained a youtube memo from

april 2017 that lays out in detail. one of the reasons this is an obvious to most people is because the company isn't smart enough not to scrub every video it wants to sensor. the video describes it as a limited state. sounds like something out of scientology. videos in a limited state are intentionally pushed down on the site so they're harder to find. they're also demonetized many people who post them can't make money from them no matter how often they are viewed. think that isn't a big deal? what would happen if you couldn't buy "the new york times" on a newsstand. what would happen if its publishers when allowed to make money from selling it? does that qualify as a censorship question mike obviously, of course it would. what is the criteria for censoring videos on youtube? according to the memo "controversial religious or supremacist content qualifies. sodas highly controversial --

what does that mean? none of it is defined and it's totally subjective. youtube makes the call and does so with maximum political intent. for example, youtube decided it was inflammatory to question the notion that all cops are racist. if you don't think they are, you're in trouble according to youtube, so his video was demonetized yet videos that suggest that white people are inherently evil will remain on youtube without any restrictions. that's clearly political. the memo makes it very clear where youtube sensors are coming from and explain that the company is committed to the freedom to belong including the resulting benefits of diversity and inclusion. okay, sounds good. what exactly does that mean? again, it's entirely subjective. at one point, the memo declares that any demeaning language against a detective group may result in a video being removed from a site. who are these protected groups?

according to youtube, refugees are a protected group. let's say you don't like the fact that refugees are being settled in your neighborhood for example. you assume it was your right as a citizen to disagree with government policy. not according to youtube. there will sensor your complaints about what your government is doing and call you a bigot in the process. it's not surprising that one of the trusted flaggers youtube has censored is a southern poverty law center which is an extremist group. it was the splc that slandered the family research council as a hate group and labeled the pulse nightclub shooting a right-wing attack which as you know, it was not. the splc is totally discredited and anyone who spends 5 minutes reading about it comes to that conclusion. yet youtube trusts the

southern poverty law center to censor your videos. that tells you a lot. we contacted youtube for statement on all of this and we asked if the company had revised its policies since the memo was written last year. the company barely responded. we relate to a blog post written by a google lawyer last june in which he availed the company would be more aggressive in censoring videos it doesn't lik like. almost nobody and power is fighting back against this censorship. here you have an american company incubated in america by americans under the protection of american law and courts which is now working to undermine the most sacred of american rights which is the freedom of expression. yet the congress which is run by republicans right now is doing precisely nothing about this. when you ask them, they mumbled something unintelligible about free markets and get back to the tax cuts for companies like youtube. meanwhile, the rest of us who live here and care about free speech are left to fend for

ourselves. they shut us down when we do send. it is time to complain while we still can. youtube isn't the only politicized part of google. in a memo, managers are told to reward people for following their white male culture of america. nobody thought it was racist until now. it's hard to believe this is even real. tell us what the memo says. speak of memo basically says edits inclusive performance and they are coached and somehow forced to evaluate people on managers on the feedback they give to their employees. this memo is about when you give feedback to your employees, the

careful about to positive feedback to white people such as marist bay performance and individual excellence and so forth. when you're giving feedback to people of color, you should be sensitive to the fact that they are more likely to be in favor of group achievement and collective values. they are supposed to talk about you instead of to you. this gross racial stereotypes on both sides that are offensive. this is clearly absurd. james moore was let go because of gender stereotypes, but the group perpetuates racial stereotypes every day. >> tucker: they don't hold their programming staff to the same standards. of course, they demand

excellence at the basis of their business. what's their response been? are they conceding this is real? >> i don't think they get it. google is too powerful to be questioned. they've been getting away with this. they describe all criticism of their race baiting and gerrymandering as all great criticism. >> tucker: we had the same job 25 years ago. you've been a conservative all your life. why are conservatives and republicans in washington defending this? defending google? why are they doing something about it? >> i'm afraid one crass reason is google spends the money around to both sides. members of congress do some thing about it.

they are really ubiquitous everywhere. as a result, people know which side is their bread and butter. that's what we are running up against. there are a lot of patriots who are shocked by this. the reason example just this week is trying to field the lawsuits. they called it the court and said employees are being harassed. the court has a sealed it for two months. for two months, the public has not been able to go. nobody seems to care with the outrages. >> tucker: time for a final exam, and can you beat our two experts are recalling what happened this week? just ahead. this show has been implicated in a crouton scandal. we'll clean up the details on

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♪ >> tucker: now it's time for final exam when the yapping stops in the testing begins where the week is -- our two contestants, we find out who has been paying closer attention to the news this week. katie is the returning champion.

gaia, you've been through this before. you've got nerves of steel. you know the rules, but for our viewers who may not remember, hand on buzzers, i asked my questions, first one who buzzes in just to answer, you wait until i finish asking. each correct answer is worth one point. and correct it attracts a point. best of five wins. are you ready? question one, kanye west was not the only celebrity criticized this week for supporting the president of united states. which country music star had the temerity to say she would have voted for donald trump? >> shania twain. >> tucker: we will see. rotate please. ♪ >> shania twain getting slammed by her fans for saying she would have voted for president trump. the singer who is from canada telling guardian she is now apologizing on twitter saying she regrets answering the question. >> i like some of her music.

she was honest and that's what happens. >> tucker: question two, the president of france visited, but it was a piece of the first of these words created a huge distraction in the media and online. which item of clothing for people talking about? katie? >> her hat. her big white hat. >> tucker: let's see if the tape verifies her claim. >> obviously lots of people talking about melania trump's hat. >> i'm outing eric. the hat. if you like the hat -- we want to know about the hat. speak out when you commit to a hat like that, you have to wear it for the rest of the day. >> tucker: we will go with hat hat. >> i'm sorry i'm ignorant.

>> tucker: no, you're american. never apologize for being an american. which lawmaker was probably presented a new job's plan which would guarantee $15 an hour guaranteed government job to whoever wants one? >> bernie sanders. >> tucker: independent socialist of vermont. as of the correct answer? >> bernie sanders reportedly ready to roll out a new guarantee for every american to get a job. >> $15 an hour with benefits. not only is it economic nonsense, it's also grossly immoral. >> tucker: here's a quick bonus follow-up. if all 320 million americans worked there, would it be a better agency? >> no. >> tucker: you're right. question four, a woman who was just fined $500 by officials for bringing what often airplane?

was it a filthy airplane blanket, was it an apple, or a cuban cigar? >> apple. >> tucker: really? okay, let's see the tape. >> u.s. customs and border control take a bite out of a passenger's wallet, finding her $500 for bringing an apple out of customs. >> the apple was from delta. that's the most important part of the story. >> tucker: this is where we find ourselves with high-level players when it's really a varsity match. it's 2-2, sudden death, question five will determine the winner. are you ready? katie, you seem very calm. president trump says he is celebrating his wife's birthday today pit he got her something to mark the occasion. was it a beautiful card, a

tremendous wristwatch, or some killer heels? >> the greatest card. >> tucker: that seems -- that's what you're sticking with? rotate please. >> very, very special day because a smile on his birthday. >> if you want to tell us what you got her? >> i didn't get her so much, i got her a beautiful card. i'm very busy. i got her a beautiful card. >> tucker: our judges are saying that it was beautiful. katie, i'm not saying i was secretly rooting for you, though i was. we didn't even realize -- i'm taking my pens out of the smoke and give it to guy benson. here is the victory mug. >> a confused look.

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