i feel bad for her. >> sean: she's killing it every day under hostile conditions. she's the only conservative good for her. always fair and balanced. water not the destroy trump media. let not your heart be troubled. and i saw her today in person. >> laura: yeah. >> sean: she said hello after i said hi. >> laura: exactly. we had the meeting of the prime time. it was great. all together in one room. i don't think it's happened before. >> sean: i have the best joke. you know the one i sent you? >> laura: yes. [laughter] yeah. that never will be repeated again. megan mccain is doing a great job on that show. >> sean: good for her. she used to work here at fox. >> laura: and melania, at the state dinner who didn't have to hire legions of workers and consultants. she did an amazing job. >> sean: the president will hate this. melania trump's poll numbers are higher. he has the highest numbers as ever. >> laura: that's not fair, sean.

you're going to get a call. >> sean: oh, well. >> laura: hannity, thanks so much. >> sean: have a great show. >> laura: good evening from washington. this is "the ingraham angle." what a line-up tonight, including a squirming james comey on the fox news hot seat. >> you can see the disparity here how the people look at the clinton case handled and how the trump case is handled. >> i don't see the disparity. >> laura: no, they're all handled the same. jim jordan will join to us dissect where bret baier tripped comey up. meanwhile, the president tells fox that comey is guilty of crime. we learn new and potentially damaging details about his infamous memos. frank luntz and he exams the pros and cons of the president acting as his own press secretary. and the americans aiding and abetting of illegal immigrants

looking to exploit our laws. and nigel is here in the middle of the night in britain. he's getting up for us to examine this nightmare scenario. the sacrifice of a small child on the alter of socialized medicine. first, the new counter culture, the focus of tonight's angle. entertainment elites are in freak-out mode. why? one of their megastars, kanye west, announced that he's thinking for himself. felt like a cultural earthquake over the weekend when west tweeted that he liked the way a conservative black activist thought. he followed it up with pro trump tweets that has the internet exploding. he declared his love for trump and ex-stoled the dragon energy they share. what is that? he refused to let the mob shake

his love for the president. now look, this isn't about celebrating one superstar's endorsement of donald trump. what i'm going to be talking about is shining a light on the more intollerant crowd out there. you know, the people that claim that they have a monopoly on tolerance and inclusion? think about this. other than academia, there's few industries that america, the american left dominates like it does entertainment. for kanye's sin of speaking his mind, musical icons like nicki minaj and drake and rihanna unfollowed him on social media. what a punishment. the reaction from the left was just as pronounced. >> different celebrities desperate for attention. >> now his wife is tweeting back at people saying don't be too hard on my husband. don't make it seem like he's going through a mental break

down, which we know he's had. >> i don't know what happened here. i think kanye west just realized he's too rich to not be republican. i don't know what it is. >> we have the right to independent thoughts and i independently think that kanye has lost his mind. >> is stephen still? character? i forget. original thought will not be tolerated. anyone that breaks from the borg mindset must be shunned or bullied back into the fold. kanye shared a text exchange with john legend. love his music. but this illustrates the points. john legend said you're way too powerful to endorse what he is and what he stands for. so many people that love you feel betrayed right now because they know the harm that trump's policies cause. especially for people of color. don't let this be part of your legacy.

kanye west wasn't impressed. he said i love you, john, but bringing up my fans and my legacy is a tactic based on fear used to manipulate my free thought. he's right. i can't believe i'm saying that on my show, kanye west is right. he's right about this. anyone that dares to question the idealogical orthodoxsy of the left, particularly a black artist, must be brought back into line. now, let's talk turkey here. where kanye west is punking the elites or whether he's sincerely expressing a belief and the president is immaterial. he's opened the door of the glaring hypocrisy of the left. they claim to defend minority rights until a minority disagrees with them. they claim to be for diversity until a truly diverse viewpoint

is heard. what west might have unwittingly done is made it a little easier for others to stand up against this herd mentality. he did receive some support for his independence. chance, the rapper, hardly a conservative voice, tweeted this. black people don't have to be democrats. can't believe it. so scandalous. i don't think that kanye west is the new mlk. all right? i have vivid memories of him at some televised fund raiser in the wake of hurricane. >> george bush doesn't care about black people. >> that wasn't nice. i can remember when he rudely rushed the stage to try to take a music award from taylor swift. that also wasn't night. 15 years ago, yes, i can hardly believe it, i wrote a book called "shut up and sing" was a critique of the political

activism of these people like the dixie chicks and jackson brown and on and on. the upshot is, we pay them to entertain. we don't want to be captive to their political pondering. someone who for some un-godly reason does get paid to pontificate on politics, her name is miss anna navarro tweeted at me. has she told kanye to shut up and sing yet or does that only apply to anti-trump black celebrities? i'll make it clear to you, anna, it applies to anyone pedalling political nonsense while lacking the credentials or experience to do so, ana. i'm not about to cheer on kanye west because he said something nice about trump. the political musings of uninfirmed celebrities is not interesting to me at all. what is interesting, the overthe

top reaction to a big star saying something truly counter cultural today. that's of great interest to me. washing the left attack him for daring to break ranks with them. even in the vaguest of terms talking about love and loving people that is truly revealing. what kanye west says or does in the days ahead is less important than the conversation he started. and who would have thought that a bad boy like kim kardshian's husband could be the catalyst for an honest discussion about the cooers conformity of thought that the celebrity culture has imposed on all of us? that's the angle. for some answers, we're joint by niger innis and democratic strategist joel payne. all right, joel, have at it. you heard my point of view on this. kanye has gotten hit from -- i'm

not a big fan of kanye west, but he's getting hit by everybody out there. >> laura, this isn't really news to me, right? you have one rich famous millionaire supporting another rich famous millionaire. neither of them understand the problems that regular americans face. it's not surprising to me that kanye west would be down with donald trump. i don't think that should be a shock to anybody. what you? what do you think? >> oh, what i think is amazing is that you are talking about rich millionaires. you guys with the democrat left wing group have many more millionaire hypocrites that have been blessed by being in this capitalist country where you have free will to make money and somehow promote this socialism that actually makes people look like you and me like -- i don't blame kanye for being a brave celebrity within hollywooder with he pay as penalty for that.

not just him. steve harvey had a penalty for visiting trump. martin luther king's son blamed for visiting the president. >> both within six months regretted that. >> because of the vicious -- >> laura: okay. let's talk about -- >> because of the intellectual tyranny of you guys. >> laura: let's talk about what donald trump has done for african americans in a moment. kanye west tweeted out obama was in office for eight years and nothing in chicago changed. kind of a substantive point. what has changed under donald trump? black homeownership under obama was 46.1% in 2009. in 2017, it's 42.7 opinion. gone up. household income for blacks. median household income for blacks under obama, 37,809. and then it went up to $37,211. yeah. ended up going down in 2011. so barack obama didn't exactly

deliver the big results. these are -- >> these are all barack obama's numbers. you know this. this is barack obama's economy still. i know the address of chicago. just -- >> laura: the media -- the point -- >> i know people you can -- >> laura: guys, the point of that particular graphic is median household income. that's how much money you bring home. that's really important. it wasn't just -- it was in part under bush, too. >> barack obama did the hard work that trump is reaping the benefits. >> laura: food stamp up participation went up 4%. >> and ben carson announced -- >> laura: we're making a substancive point and look, i want to be fair here because i want joel to get his point out. but i think to say just refle reflecti

reflectively, donald trump is bad for black people. the economy is soaring. when you say about the millionaires, i get what you're saying. he's out of touch. but he wasn't out of touch with the working class people. that's why they rejected the globalist republicans and it's odd, that went with this millionaire and said you're given a raw deal. he went after republicans and democrats and he got those people to vote for him. i don't think that's a fair criticism of trump. those working class people, that was gold for trump. they really came out for him. >> the reason that trump did so well in michigan and pennsylvania came within a couple points of winning minnesota is because of the grass roots -- >> but he got 9% i guess of african americans. that's a little more than romney. but republicans need to do better. >> he got 13% of the black male vote. i fear -- i feel sorry for my brother, joel, because he's afraid. we break into this monopoly that

democrats have had for 40 years. joel, let me tell you something. it's not just -- god bless kanye west. i am a fan. okay? i love what he's doing. it's not just happening on the airwaves. today i just came from a conference called impact standing for multicultural impact conference. 500,000 conservatives supporting donald trump and the republican party. there's something -- there's a cultural revolution -- >> laura: i didn't know about this. >> to your point -- >> they're coming, brother. >> you're right. black women continue to be at the tip of the -- >> that's good. that's good. >> am i right about that? are you disagreeing? >> god for bid. i wouldn't disagree with you. [laughter] >> laura -- >> laura: i'm all for the women.

i'm all for the african american women. we're going to get more here. >> diamond is doing something about it. >> laura: this is what donald trump said on "fox and friends" and kanye. >> kanye looks and sees black under employment the lowest it's been in the history of our country. he sees that and he's smart. he says trump is doing a better job than the democrats did. >> laura: he's -- i think -- that's what kanye believes. seriously, how has life for african americans over the last 14 months not -- how is it deteriorated under donald trump? >> i appreciate donald trump not breaking the glass on the way in for the last 14 months that barack obama built. barack obama built a strong house and a strong foundation that donald trump is reaping the benefits of. so i appreciate that in 14 months he's not broken it. there's plenty of time to break

it. >> let me tell you one bit of glass that donald trump was trying to break before the establishment in chicago prevented him. the crime wave, the war zone, the killing field of black and brown people in chicago. barack obama's hometown where he did nothing for eight years. the fact is, in one year 2016, there were more blacks killed in chicago than iraq and afghanistan combined. >> barack obama is the reason why there's violence in chicago. how many guns -- where are -- >> are you saying that -- are you saying that barack obama who started off being a community organizer, started off being a community organizer still keeps in touch with people with cool celebrities like jay z that -- >> it's barack obama's fault -- >> in chicago -- rahm emanuel and he continue do anything about the crime -- >> laura: it's being governed by

democrats. this jason johnson said that the president is out of touch. can we play it, guys? i know we're running late. i want to get these guys to react. >> when the president starts bragging about all the things he's done for black folks, kanye doesn't represent black people. this man has been lost for years. the fact that the president is out of touch that he thinks talking about a lost rapper that married into a reality tv family is reflective of how black people think shows this president that he has no idea what it takes to make america great. >> wow. i know who my lord of blackness is. >> laura: he's not an authentic black because he married into the kardshian family. what is he getting at? >> i think that kanye brought more to that relationship than the kardshians. it was a mutually re-assuring relationship. >> what jason was saying is what i said. this is one wealthy millionaire

supporting another. a wealthy millionaire who made his life easier and lives of 97 -- >> rihanna is a millionaire. >> you cannot say -- >> jay z and the entire -- entertainment -- >> they have perspective and understand the agenda does not support -- >> laura: i think donald trump wants more people to be millionaires. he's not like mitt romney that is apologizing for being rich. what he is trying to do is he's trying to bring more wealth and opportunity back to this country by redoing these trade deals, by bringing manufacturing back, by encouraging people an entrepreneurs -- >> by kicking out immigrants and breaking up families. >> laura: but actually, i will say -- >> welcoming immigrants legally. >> laura: if you think the way to help the african american community is to flood places like chicago with thousands and

thousands of indigent laborers, i guess we're on -- >> as long as they're not -- >> and they're there illegally. >> laura: it doesn't help african americans get job. >> not that they're from bleep hole countries. >> i don't care what country you're here. if you're taking jobs from working class americans, it's not helping -- >> this is the ultimate whose side you're on. donald trump and kanye versus the rest of us. the 97% of us that live in the real world. >> i think the wonderful sisters are going to follow -- >> laura: i think kanye has opened -- people can come out of the closet as conservatives. they're always in the closet. maybe a few more will come out. >> revolution. joel is nervous. >> laura: we're bringing joel. joel is too cool not to be with us. i love joel. okay. great segment. jim comey made a number of eyebrow raising -- i can't do it. raising aer is -- assertions

about the dossier. >> steele was hired to look into the dossier and first funded by republicans and picked up -- the important thing picked up by democrats opposed to donald trump. >> laura: well, wrong. we're going to set the record straight next with top experts on the subject including jim jordan and byron york. stay there.

>> do you think there's any credence to the president's claim that you broke the laws

releasing the memos? >> no. i think he's making stuff up. >> laura: the up returned fire on "fox and friends." >> comey is a leaker and a liar. he leaked classified information to get a special counsel. he's guilty of crimes. if we had a justice department doing their job -- >> laura: and in his fox news interview with bret baier, comey responded to trump's accusations. >> he's just wrong. facts really do matter. that's why i'm on the show. the memo is unclassified. it's in my back. the fbi cleared that book before it could be published. it's a false statement. >> laura: let's separate fact from fiction with our panel. jim jordan and byron york, richard goodstein, a former adviser to president clinton.

i want to play part of this interview tonight where brett asked about the clinton investigation and the comparison. let's watch. >> you can see the disparity where people look at the clinton case and how the trump case is handled. >> i don't see disparity though. >> there is a disparity. the american people see it. the president is not wrong. he's not making things up. he's not making up the fact that they called sheryl mills -- >> laura: sheryl mills was -- >> clinton's lawyer and her chief of staff and the subject of the investigation when the clinton investigation started. compare that to the idea that the president's personal lawyer gets his door kicked in and the attorney general of the united states i don't even think was consulted. it was run outside of the umbrella of the russian investigation, the mueller special counsel investigation. you don't take to the highest officers in the land when you kick in the president's lawyer's door? of course the president should

be unset and more importantly, the american people are upset. >> byron, there was a moment that they discussed who funded the dossier. you've been writing about this. let's watch. >> when did you learn that the dnc and hillary clinton campaign funded christopher steele's work? >> i still don't know that for a fact. >> what do you mean? >> i only saw it in the media. i knew it was funded first by republicans -- >> that's not true. >> i'm sorry? >> that's not true. the dossier was founded by the republicans? do you want to know who it was funded by? >> i wanted to know who i knew. it was funded by people politically opposed to donald trump. which particular opponents wasn't important to me. >> this was a stunning moment. he showed apparent ignorance of the basic facts of the dossier, which is one of the most

important documents in the whole trump -- >> laura: why? it was the main basis for the application to spy on carter page. >> and that's also what comey and the other intel chiefs briefed president-elect trump on on january 26, 2017 starting the whole fight between trump and comey. it's a hugely important document. he seemed to repeat a left wing talking point that it began with republicans. we know -- anybody has followed knows that the fusion gps research into trump's business life began with republicans. they quit that. then the steele dossier was funded by democrats. >> laura: isn't that shocking? you've sold 600,000 books, which is amazing. you wrote a book about this. you're on bret baier's show. oh, it's what i read in the media. you were fbi director.

you used this document. richard, i'm sorry, but that did strike me as quite a stunner. >> if i can, congress made reference to sheryl mills, hillary clinton's lawyer. donald trump who said on air force one, call my lawyer, michael cohen. famously said during the campaign, if you take the fifth, it's because your guilty. that's what mob people do. mills never took the fifth nobody in the clintons took the fifth other than the one guy -- >> laura: you shouldn't have to take the fifth. they gave her immunity. >> they could have given anybody they wanted -- >> laura: why did they give her immunity? >> the fact of the matter is, the suggestion there's a comparison between the two. carter page is one of five foreign policy advisers that donald trump named and the fbi -- he was a foreign agent. excuse me. that is nothing like what we're talking about. donald trump went into the oval office and gave russians secrets about the israelis being

embedded and ways in which the islamic terrorists -- >> laura: we're talking about the former fbi director that is on this network tonight that made comments that were -- a run of the middle pundit on any cable network would know the answers to, which i found unbelievable. i want to play another sound bite. this is on the fisa application itself. byron, you've wrote about this. congressman, you've been dissecting this. let's watch. >> call the dossier unverified, salacious. why did you use that to the fisa court to ask for surveillance for carter page? you led with it, a bulk of the fisa application deals with that dossier. why? >> that's not my recollection, bret. i don't know that the fisa application has been released. >> there was a lot more than the dossier in the fisa application? >> my recollection there was a

significant amount of time about page and why there was probable cause that he was an agent. >> is that true? >> no. when you lead with it, that's your primary evidence -- >> laura: have you seen the entire fisa application? >> we have not. >> laura: why? >> they won't let us. i asked christopher wray. they won't show us. >> laura: wow. >> they didn't tell the court who paid for it. they didn't tell the court that the author of the document, christopher steele, had his relationship with the fbi terminated. they didn't tell the court that. when we go to the court, we have to tell them the whole truth. they didn't to that. >> remember the house intel found out that the dossier was the bulk of it and separately the senate judiciary committee also found out that it was the bulk of it. >> laura: he also said he didn't see any bias in the page-strzok text when they talked about the insurance policy. they were clearly not wild about donald trump. even that's been said on other

networks. but he didn't see any bias. >> again, there were republicans on this network and others that were saying the same thing about donald trump during the 2016 campaign that strzok was. strzok was saying the same things -- >> laura: but not investigating him. >> he was saying the same thing about eric holder. they were dishing dirt or trashing everybody they could. so to suggest -- strzok was a person that suggested that comey do the letter that basically was the beginning of the end for hillary clinton. i don't think -- >> it wasn't bias. it was animus towards the president. peter strzok is the deputy head of counter intelligence. he's been demoted and reassigned for his behavior. >> laura: the columbia law professor to whom comey gave that -- those memos, two of the six memos and he basically instructed him to get them out there. now we find out, which we didn't

know, maybe you knew this, that he was actually a special consultant to the justice department? and we now find out that he's now operating as comey's attorney. >> his lawyer. >> laura: is that relevant? gives you attorney client privilege -- >> it helps to understand what he did to get the memos out. it was a stunning re-lation. comey does not consider what he did leaking. he has redefined leaking to mean only discloses classified information. he believes -- he's said several times that he didn't leak when he gave this memo to dan richman for the purpose of richman telling the "new york times" about it. comey maintains that this was not a leak. he also said it couldn't have been a leak because he left the fbi and was no longer a government employee. >> george stephanopoulos wrote a book about conversations with

bill clinton. scott mcclelland broke a book -- >> after they were out of office. >> that's the case. that comey was out of office and he was no more of a leaker than george stephanopoulos or mcclelland was. >> the justice department kept them as if they were state secrets. few members were allowed to see them. you had do have an fbi minder with them. no notes, no copies. >> laura: it's contrary to justice department regulations -- >> nobody on capitol hill believes this is the only leak that james comey did there richman. i many guess is there were tons. he had employees with the sge status. i'm guessing he did lots of leaks. >> laura: ask him that. >> no, there's attorney client privilege. can't bring him in. phenomenal panel. no doubt it would be. by the way, we reveal the dubious an possibly unlawful

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>> laura: hundreds of illegal immigrants are preparing to cross into california and ask for political asylum. what is more outrageous, this caravan of central americans has

been organized, aided an abetted and coached by u.s.-based activists from a group. why has media turned a blind eye to the role played by the project's coordinator, alex mensing who is from the university of san francisco's immigration clinic? let's get into that with dan stein in tampa and francisco hernandez in fort worth, texas. dan, let's start with you here. this is quite something. we have american ngos and other ngos working to get the publicity going for this group. they come every year about easter time and make their way to mexico. mexico usually disbands them effectively. they started to disband them before i think the president started tweeting about it a couple weeks ago. but you have these lawyers that basically embed with the group

who are american lawyers. they're going over, okay, this is what you say for credible fear of persecution and then they show up on buses and then they all start reciting the same line. it seems like it's encouraging people to gain the system. >> laura, it's aiding and abetting and organized smuggling. the media says it's like a street fair, they're coming in for a festival and going back to honduras. this is organized smuggling. as long as the united states is a free capitalist and open society, there will be millions of people that want to come here. not everybody can come and a sovereign nation like the u.s. has a right to control who comes in and who doesn't. groups like people without borders do not subscribe to that idea. so this effort is part of an organized effort we see across the world. we see it in europe and the gaza with israel and all around the world to try to challenge western societies to prevent

them from using their immigration laws to stop this organized smuggling under the ban of asylum. i feel sorry for the people. if only refugees can get in. everybody wants to be called a refugee. so they get coached in. they know if they make a credible fear claim, if there's no detention space, they'll be released for years before they get their hearing and luckily the trump administration is taking steps to stop this by deploying immigration judges to extradite their removal. >> francisco, mexico has tried to help out here at various points including by, you know, telling the folks, look, you have 30 days to leave mexico. we'll give you a transit visa and you have to leave mexico. their point is, mexican officials have said if you want asylum, we'll give you asylum.

but they have made it clear in various sources have told me that the hondurans overwhelmingly don't want to be in mexico. so they're not interested in going to any country except our country. why is that? >> except the promised land. listen to what you're saying. are we now against legal immigration? asylum law is a legal process by which these folks can applied to come in. they either have proof or they don't. you can't coach proof. what they're trying to come in under a legal process. that is our law. they're not coming across. there's no smuggling, no illegal entry into the united states. they're a playing to come into the united stat the united states legally. isn't that what we wanted? if there's 400 at the border, bring them some bricks and they can build the wall. >> since we spent $16 billion all told on illegal immigration, that would be five walls. >> let's talk about legal immigration. >> we're talking about people

that come here illegally in the united states. many of the people interviewed have said -- >> no. >> laura: hold on. they have disbanded from the group and say we're going to get there. we're going to get there if we don't get in as assilees -- >> what about legal immigration? they're invoking asylum laws that is the law of the land. >> laura: francisco, are you saying you don't believe there's fraud in the asylum -- application of the asylum laws? >> sure there is. >> laura: it's rampant. >> and immigration is very good at ferreting it out. the proof is -- >> laura: what is -- francisco, you're an immigration attorney. you think these -- you think that 24-year-old mother of three is putting on witnesses and -- here's my documents. they don't have any documents

what are you talking about? >> mrs. ingram -- >> laura: call me laura. >> the u.s. agents -- the trump administration's agents are growing to determine whether these people can prove immediate fear. it's not like there's all these social programs going out. it's a hard threshold to prove. it's a legal way of invoking the laws of the united states. >> laura: i think it's 75 to 93% of people that apply for asylum in this process get it or ultimately get released anyway during the process -- >> no, less than 10%. >> laura: they get released into -- dan, do they not get released after they applied -- >> the first is what is call credible fear. it's a low threshold. all you have to say is i'm afraid to go home. they can request a judge. the problem is they get back locked and released to society and here for years.

i wish had a dollar for every time they don't show up for their hearing or deportation -- it goes on and on. >> okay -- >> laura: hold on a second. >> there is a massive mess. >> if you don't like it, fix the law. >> the trump administration is trying to change the law. >> laura: francisco, you're absolutely right. >> check this out -- >> laura: hold on. francisco, you're right. this laws do need to be changed. the way the asylum laws are written now are -- it's easily gamable. if that's even a word. it's easily gamed and it does have to be changed because it's actually putting the migrant's lives at risk. you have these kids crossing that are being manipulated -- >> you're right. >> laura: and being hurt by the gangs and recruited by gangs. this is a humanitarian night that we helped create.

>> god bless you for saying that. you're correct. >> laura: we're running over. this just came out today. the federal government loses track of 20% of the unaccompanied children within three months of their arriving here, this is hhs testimony today. they have lost track of 7,635 unaccompanied children that they had to check in with over the last three months of last year. they lost track of 1,500 of those after 30 days. we don't know where that are. >> and the people are -- >> many of the people say they're fleeing -- they say they're fleeing gang violence. the minors are actually recruited by ms-13 -- >> laura: we're out of time. >> we have a direct relationship -- >> laura: we agreed on something. >> i'll meet you at the border. >> laura: francisco, we're going to -- and the tequila shots are

on me. >> you're on. >> laura: i'll buy drinks. >> you're on. >> laura: so many americans love the way the president uses twitter to go over the heads of the media. is there a hidden danger to being his own spokesman? frank luntz will reveal it next.

>> laura: president trump struck gold by using social media to talk directly to the american people and continues to do that. but does the good outweigh the bad when he acts as his own press secretary? the president hit the bulls eye with a phone interview on "fox and friends" today. but is free-wheeling style, i love it but it can leave him wide open the critics, judges, prosecutors. in the trump era, does discipline matter? let's go to polster frank luntz.

great to see you. let's play some of these sounds bite. they're pretty fun. first we're going -- he's talking about his nominations, his nominees not getting confirmed. let's watch. >> the democrats are obstructionists. it's horrible. they're not approving people. they're taking them out to the maximum 30 hours. it's a disgrace. we have people that have given up their jobs. topline people. they want to help us in government. chuck schumer and the great take years to approve them. >> it will take nine years. he will cease being president but the time the administration -- >> laura: smart to talk about that. >> smart. he's criticized congress up till now. that hurts the republicans more than the democrats. the second thing, he said it's not fair. trump is making a play for

political bipartisanship and acting in a way that you're supposed to. i want to make a point. you're one of the point that wakes up and you can't wait to see donald trump's tweets. for that segment of trump's population, man, is he a good communicator. there's another segment, the swing voters, the people in the center that look at the language and say why? is this really effective? he's good in some points but in other cases he hurts himself. >> laura: like people like -- we need a general counsel for the u.s. department of navy. he was shot -- got out of committee last july, no hearing. >> we don't have an ambassador -- >> laura: no. we just got one today. >> how long did it take? >> laura: many months. it's a joke. i love when he's does that. it's smart. he talks about the phony cloud over him. let's watch. >> i'm fighting a battle against

a horrible group of deep-seeded people, drain the swamp that are coming up with phony charges against me. it's a witch hunt. they know that. i give myself an a plus. nobody has done what i've been able to do and i did it despite the fact that i have a phony cloud over my head that doesn't exist. >> laura: a plus. a plus. gets an a plus. is that on the curve? i don't think so. >> my mom, if i ever myself and a would criticize me. >> laura: it's trump though. a regular a. that's why people like him. >> if you want to generate support, a little humility goes a long way. >> laura: and michael cohen with the criminal stuff. this worries me. >> i have many attorneys. i have attorneys -- sadly, i have so many attorneys you

wouldn't believe it. >> mr. president, how much of your legal work was handled by michael cohen? >> a percentage of my overall legal work, a tiny little fraction. but michael would represent me on some things like this crazy stormy daniels deal. from what i see, he did absolutely nothing wrong. >> laura: the left jumping on that all day long. the lower third on cnn and msnbc. >> let's face it. attorney is not the most popular occupation right now. bragging that you had a ton of attorneys is not a good selling point. when you talk about the economy, talking about jobs and taxes, you're winning. if you're trying to defend yourself against these criticism, then you're losing. that is why you need a staff that is engaged and that's why you should do these interviews but only occasionally. because sometimes other

spokespeople are better on your behalf than you are. >> laura: back in the 2016 election cycle, you had interesting focus groups. this is one of them. >> how many of you in this room love the tweeting. you think it's appropriate for the president to do that? >> he needs to tone down the language but the bottom line, it's his way to get the message out. >> i would argue that donald trump shouldn't tone it down. that's what got him elected. >> we can deliver a message. telling the people what they want to here. be us. >> has anything >> yeah. me. >> laura: you're like trump. know cussed on yourself. >> see how much weight i gained. >> laura: real quick. >> the -- if you are trying to appeal to your base, the tweeting is perfect. they wake unand they can't wait to read it. if you're trying to win over the swing voters, republicans that will need them in the fall, focus on policy and success.

>> laura: and this is how your life is getting better. interesting. nigel will join us from london to analyst the heart breaking story from elphie evans. what you haven't heard we'll reveal tonight. so you're looking for male customers, ages 25-54,

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>> laura: if a society is best

judged by the quality of its mercy, britain's socialized medical system is failing. eiffel evans is dying from a condition that doctors have been unable to diagnosis. he was taken off a court ordered life support. his family wants to take him to italy that is offering him an alternative treatment and citizenship. here to discuss what this tells us about socialized medicine, nigel. thanks for being here, nigel. i've been praying for alfie and his family, but i have a question for you tonight. how can courts in the e.u. and the u.k. prevent a family from removing their child from a hospital and taking him or her

to another country for treatment? how is that even happen something. >> what is happening here is the rights of the parents to do what they think are right are being taken away from them. we have a case here -- it's not the first. we had a big one last year regarding a little boy that wanted to go to america for treatment, treatment that was not available in the u.k. in this case, for young alfie, the treatment was available in italy but not here. the little boy is sick. but any parents, any parent in the world who has a child that is sick would move heaven and earth if somebody else could offer them a different treatment. yet what happens here is our state-run medical system decides there's nothing else that can be done and backed up by state courts, they make a decision that those parents are not fit to move their child somewhere else. the pope has intervened, the

president of italy granted him italian citizenship and the medical professions and the courts say no, we're sorry. we're pulling the plug. the life support machine has been turned off. so this gets to the heart of how much freedom does the individual have, how much freedom do the parents have or now our children owned by the state? >> laura: it's almost like they broke alfie's father today. he said my son is a hostage. that's what we and so many others have called him. less like a hostage of the national health service. he said what we are enduring is not right. by the end of the day, he had changed his tune and said everybody go back to your lives. i think the hospital kind of -- sounds like he was threatened and said you're not going to get anything from us unless you tone

it down. >> there was a picture yesterday of this hospital in northwest of england with 20 uniformed police officers standing outside the door of the hospital to stop little alfie from being taken out and stop protesters from getting in. using the police to keep the child in the hospital. these parents have been through every single legal process available to them. i'm guessing now that the life support machine has been turned out, there's no prospect at all of the young boy going to italy, in the end, the father has accented the inevitable. whether or not he was threatened, i don't know. what i do know, when i was involved in this charlie guard case last year, i turned up outside the hospital in london and i was told in no uncertain terms by the p.r. services for the hospital that when i was doing was damaging the reputation of the hospital by

doing a press report outside where this little boy was dying. it's classic of the establishment closing ranks. the state being all-powerful. frankly, what is happening today, what is happening right now is a form of state sponsored euthanasia and i hate it. >> laura: he's an undesirable. he can't be fixed. part of -- we're almost out of time. part of it, nigel, is the national health service, they don't want to risk the fact that he goes to italy, maybe he gets treatment and he has some quality of life and that's a big embarrassment to the national health service. thanks for being up late for us. we'll pray for him and his family. thanks so much. we'll be right back.

>> laura: before we go, and tweet about our last segment. "dear laura, thank you for talking about alfie evans. an italian state like the

doctors and personnel have been waiting for days in liverpool this taken for the children's hospital in rome. god bless you all for trying to help. "it's heartbreaking. tweet me, @ingrahamangle. we can only pray at this point and hope it never happens in this country. that's all the time we have best left. shannon bream is up next. >> shannon: will have more on the case as well. thank you very much, laura. three major breaking stories. bill cosby found guilty. we'll hear from the attorney representing a number of his accusers right here. plus explosive new text messages between two anti-trump fbi officials are revealed. with a focus on fired fbi director james comey. bret baier will be here with reaction and highlights from his blockbuster interview tonight. as baby alfie clings to life, we have a stunning look at why the u.k. health system may be blocking his parents from taking him elsewhere for care. hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i'm shannon bream in washington. we begin witom