>> ♪ >> ♪ >> i am kimberly guilfoyle with geraldo rivera, jesse watters, and candance owens and greg gutfeld. 5 o'clock in new york city and this is "the five." it's the story sending the country into a frenzy and sparking widespread conversations. >> the president has it. >> what? >> kanye west has it. >> what are you talking about? >> dragon energy. >> no, stop, gross. >> instead of focussing on real issues impacting race, we are focussing on kanye west who said it's not about anything of

substance. all of a sudden with a record coming up, he liked donald trump. >> when the president brags about the things he did for black people. kanye west didn't represent black people. this man has been lost for years. >> the african-americans are predominantly democrats. >> i think kanye west lost his mind. i think it's weird. >> i love it. even asked sarah sanders about it at the white house press meeting. >> kanye west expressed his admiration for the president. >> covering all range of topics. >> has the president reached out to kanye west and would he meet at the white house? >> they met during the transition. that's the only meeting i am aware of or conversation before everybody has a meltdown. >> president trump also weighing

in this week. >> he sees that stuff and he is smart. he said trump is doing a much better job than the democrats. >> president trump commented again today on kanye west: they really get it. this started with one 7-word tweet last saturday. i love the way candace owens think." that could lead to a culture shift. "the five" has an interesting update. candace predicted this would happen over a year ago. >> i first said if you understood kanye west and you can understand the movement of donald trump. people can't correlate that. it's similar.

anti-political correctness. >> candace joining us today. we have talked about you and with speak with you. we have been hearing this chatter. you predicted this and now you have become part of this culture shift? >> that's right. i could be biassed. i love the way candace owens thinks as well. this is bizarre. i knew it would be kanye west that would break through this group thought on the left. what he advocates the most for in his music is independence. to be a conservative means you allow independent thinking. they don't allow that on the left whatsoever. this is the beginning of an interesting time in black america. >> greg, when this first happened, something is going on here. this is a culture shift. you didn't feel it was a publicity stunt? >> people will call you a hypocrite when celebrities talk

politics and you tell them to shut up. you are an actor, just act. this is different. this comes with a cost to his reputation and fan base and album sales. when people say he is doing this to promote album sales, this is going to hurt him! he didn't choose a typical cuddly issue like climate change or bullying or gun control. he chose the most harmful issue. the most divisive issue putting his arms around president trump. that takes a lot of guts. you are seeing a change in the intellectual dark web. adams and rogue an. people are seeking another place to find the truth because they are tired of the narrative. i think is part of that. >> i think you over-state. >> i tried to over-state it.

>> [laughing]. >> you are over-stating something. >> that's what i am afraid of it. >> i cop to that. the fact is president trump got 8% of the african-american vote which was a bit of a spike from what mitt romney got 6%. race is politics and politics is race in this country. van jones from cnn said on election night, this was white-lash. it was on one side and people of recall on the other side. the ferocity of the reaction of kanye west's support of president trump and you candace is a measure of that. >> romney was at 6% and trump at 8%. if you go to 10% for a republican candidate nationally, that brings all different kinds of counties in play. with the country divided, that

razor margin could have a significant impact. what show did you do, candace? >> before kanye west tweeted me, it was "watters world." >> i wanted to establish that. >> [laughing]. >> and for juan williams, i am sorry. >> i wish he were today. >> i put a hurt on him. he is still recovering. >> i would say one thing, i think kanye west and donald trump have so much in common besides the dragon energy. they both thrive on controversy. both are egotistical. both are loved and hated. they drive their supporters crazy but also make their supporters dance. he said this is not political, kanye west. he said it's not about republican or democrats. it's about independent thought. i agree with that. i don't think he is talking

about the black unemployment or some of the things that trump has done for the black community. if you think about the policy, i don't think trump has hurt african-americans in in country. you look at food stamps are down. shootings are down in chicago and black unemployment. things are not terrible in the black community as a result of donald trump's policy. >> there is a real thing called dragon energy. it is real. trump is a motive star. kanye west is a movie star. there are others. >> [overlapping talking]. >> president trump during the campaign did some things that really were egregious from the point of few from african-americans. >> name 1. >> when he feigned ignorance of david duke. i don't know david duke. i have to research it. in charlottesville, the neo-nazi march, he equated the 2 sides.

>> the extreme left with the extreme right. >> 100%. >> i said to the president, face-to-face that i thought he needed to reach out. i looked around and everybody in mar-a-lago was white. i said you need black faces here. that's a reality. he has to face it. there is a structural problem with race and politics in in country. donald trump because he has dragon energy and is this independence thinker has the ability to bust out of that 8%. >> candace, let's talk about this. in terms of the culture shift. minority women and conservative women like yourself and myself take offense is culture elite telling us what to think and believe. whether we are on the right track or we are delirious to

support the president and republicans. kanye west is pushing back against that polarizing thinking that tries to put people in boxes and stigmatize you. >> it's monolithic thinking. that's what i am punching back against. at the end of the day it doesn't make sense. when you say he needs to have more black faces. that means nothing. we saw with president obama, he had every black artist in the white house for photo-opes and chicago was worse off. i need to see black results. it's insulting people say we have beyonce and jay-z on stage. that's an uphill challenge. >> [overlapping talking]. >> that's true. you can see that with the record

level of incarcerations of black americans. there are points to be made here to support these theories. what is going on in this country, there is a group think trying to pollute your mind and didn't respect freedom of thought or expression. >> right. that's what i say. the democratic party used united states as low information voter. that's why they give us beyonce and jay-z. when hillary clinton was on black hip hop shows, she was talking about hot sauce in her bag. don't talk about that. talk about issues facing our community. i am insulted with you saying there need to be more black faces. >> i disagree with that. i think that -- greg first? >> it goes beyond politics. diversity is real.

>> the ultimate result from the hyper-diapers, you are not seeing the individual anymore. you are seeing the group. i think that's what kanye west -- why we connected with you. he was seeing an individual talking about being an individual and not extolling the group identity. it's so noxious. the quickest way to fascism is to put the group before the individual. with kanye west, now that you have this power, what do you do with it? it's about persuasion. you won. now it's time to win converts. that means being persuasive which means not going for shock value but connecting with people who disagree with you. and you saw kanye west and jon

legend going at each other. it worked. >> the media is trying to discredit kanye west. they don't want to talk about chicago under barack obama. cnn when kanye west says something, it's shocking! it's not news that kanye west, said something bad about president trump but cnn would have covered that all day long. instead, he said something nice about president trump and cnn either buried or tried to discredit kanye west. they are not being fair with the way the news is being presented. >> i absolutely agree. the fact of the matter is black unemployment is at record lows. hispanic unemployment is at record lows. that's the message the republican matter has to convey to the inner city. republicans are sometimes better

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table. >> i think the president deserves credit for getting us this far. no president has put as much pressure on north korea as donald trump has. that's a good thing. >> mr. trump is very pleased by the developments and had a lot to say about it. >> it's never gone this far. i don't think it ever had this enthusiasm for them wanting to make a deal. we won't be played. the united states in the past was played like a fiddle. money going in and nobody knew what was happening. the day after an arrangement was made -- if you call it a deal, i doubt it. that's not happening to us. we will come up with a solution. if we don't, we leave the room with great respect. >> geraldo rivera, many men fought in the korean war.

to see those images of two leaders shaking hands, a historic development. >> the puerto rico battalion suffered in the korean war. they were decimated. it's an amazing sight to see. i have been around the block a few times. i can be skeptical and cynical. this is the real deal it seems to me. president trump played it right. i am heartened by these images. these symbolics gestures. coming over the lines and shaking hands. i think is a fabulous development. the president is a realist. this is donald trump at his best. >> yes. we will continue to exert maximum pressure, kimberly on the north until you achieve a peaceful victory. could you imagine if these talks

were happening under barack obama? they would have to give him a second nobel peace prize. >> they could not stop. the mainstream media should give president trump credit for what he accomplished. he was a disruptor and people counted him out. he ran against 16 people and took each one down. now achieving something that everyone thought was not attainable in our lifetime to see kim jong-un coming to the negotiation table. and the south korea president said this is due to president trump and said that even on cnn. that's priceless. there you go. there is the truth. let it be heard loud and clear. you see these images and have a front row seat to international history, this is unbelievable. it's a great moment. no one can say this is not good

for the future and internationally. >> not everybody on cnn can give the president credit. this was a headline on cnn.com. meet kim jong-un's sister seen as instrumental in making the summit happen. >> of course. you have to understand. it will be really hard for a lot of people to get through this presidency when there are successes. they can't handle it. they will talk about trump phoning into fox and friends and how he only got melania a birthday card as this guy made 7.6-billion people's lives safer through the destruction of isis and cautiously optimistic what happens here. the emblem of the trump administration is the handshake. the salesman move. if you think about the handshake and what it matters for a salesman and president trump.

this is a handshake. no one thought this person who was supposed to cause divisiveness. just months ago we were going to have a nuclear war with north korea. this is his negotiation strategy. all of a sudden everybody is shaking hands. the network like they are surprised it's breaking news. they were in denial. you would not have gotten this with hillary clinton. he could not even fire huma abedin. >> my god. >> yes. >> the weaner emails. >> you always bring this back to weaner. >> thank you. i am working on a book. candace, the hermit kingdom has messed with americans and at the last second pulled out and nuked back up. you have to keep that in the back of your head.

>> absolutely. this is amazing as a trump supporter. we were streaming at cnn. every other day the world is ending because of a trump tweet. this is the year of the tweet. one tweet caused a lot across the board. >> "fire and fury." >> yes. >> they are interchangeable. >> exactly. we knew trump would step into office and be fearless and be strong. that's what america needed. he could not have another barack obama. if barack obama had done this, they would have his face on mount rushmore by now. >> i don't think that will ever happen. ahead the stunning answer james comey gave bret baier when he asked him about the dossier. i could not believe it. we'll be right back.

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♪ what you want ♪ baby i got it ♪ what you need >> welcome back to "the five." james comey rose eyebrows during an interview with bret baier. claiming bizarrely he doesn't consider the memo he leaked to be a real leak because it was not an official government document. >> i didn't consider it part of the fbi file. >> it was a work product. >> no, it was not. >> you were not talking to the president? >> sure. >> you said in the memos, i said i don't do sneaky things. i don't leak. i don't do weasel moves. that's a leak, isn't it? >> it's not. >> bret did a great job. the former fbi director claimed he doesn't know who funded the anti-trust dossier. >> when did you learn that the dnc and hillary clinton funded christopher steele's work? >> i don't know that for a fact.

i have only seen it in the media. i never knew when democrats -- it was funded first by republicans. >> that's not true. the dossier that christopher steele worked on was funded by republicans. >> the president responded on tweeter: he lied all over the place to cover it up. sailor is a reference to the sailor who took photos inside the nuclear sub. >> the president is right. in terms what have he is talking about here. if you look at all of the facts and the information about james comey, he has lied. he is a leaker.

those were classified documents. if they were not why did the fbi ask fitzgerald to bring all copies back and return them to the fbi. he was playing cute and fast with it. sneaky, very weasel like. i will take the information from the document and he knew what he was doing. not only the head of the fbi. an attorney and former prosecutor. he knows the law and chose to disregard it. he thought he would get away with it and personally profit. in terms of the information he is looking at charges of obstruction of justice as well as mishandling classified documents. wait until the ig-report comes. he compromised the mueller investigation because he came out with a book and self-promotion all of this will

benefit president trump whom you were trying to hurt. >> how could the top cop not know who funded the dossier? >> i don't know if i believe him. he tells abc it was not necessary to tell trump who funded the dossier and then tells bret baier he doesn't know who funded the dossier. it makes no sense at all. he is the head of the fbi. of course he knows who funded the dossier unless he didn't want to know it. he said it was not important who funded the dossier. that's absolutely ridiculous! secondly the thing that jumped out. he said the dossier was not a critical part of the fisa warrant? are you kidding me? number 2 mccabe said it was the most crucial part. nunes and grassley said it was the centerpiece of the fisa application. someone is lying. mccabe and comey are liars. >> and comey had to sign off on

that as well. >> four times. >> correct. the facts speak for themselves. >> he said, bret did a nice job and asked who knows more about the dossier the obama team or the trump team? he said equal amounts. comey knew. clapper new. trump didn't know anything. he didn't know hillary clinton funded it. he is a liar. >> if you watched msnbc or cnn they were leading with the informant is a russian spy. trump said the house intelligence committee exxonerated me and there was no collusion. the trump detractors are hitting hard on the fact they are trying to keep alive the russian

investigation. >> of course. this is classic foot in mouth syndrome. you spend a year telling everybody this is what we got. trump is guilty. they realize they were wrong. they always knew they were wrong. they were trying to assist in obstructing this president's first year and having this weight on his back for something not true. comey is walking back and side ways. at the end of the day, he may have just implicated himself. i agree, kimberly, you hit the nail on the head. he is in hot water. he is nervous. >> i am not so sure. >> he could not have written this book. >> i am not so sure. the book manuscript was cleared by the fbi. >> that's not a good idea. >> i think that comey, though, has taken some real sharp blows and still hasn't been routed. >> i think last night was a

rout. i think a great interview exposes contradictions. he contradicted himself. that does not show up in any of the interviews. i would forward a link to that interview to george stephanopoulos and say this is how it's done. if he had done bret's interview first when the book came out it would be a disaster for comey. because all of the subsequent interviews would be tougher. they would have to replicate bret baier who was a bear. >> he was a bear. he was fantastic and smart. >> great hair. >> i know. >> i think he works out. >> bret asks tough questions and pinpointed him on the legal issues. there was shock and awe on comey's base because he was so evasive. >> he was late for the interview. no one is ever late for an interview for your book.

that was -- wait, wait, wait. this was a gimmick in order to put bret baier off his game and make him uncomfortable. it actually made him an angry bear. >> george stephanopoulos was the first and hearing things that were shocking from the mouth of an fbi director. >> is it legal to be kicked out of a bar for your politics? a judge put down the gavel on that one. the verdict next. for all the eyes that get itchy and watery near pollen. there's flonase sensimist. it relieves all your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. and all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. flonase sensimist.

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the judge said the law doesn't protect people from political discrimination. kimberly, as a former prosecutors what is your take on this conclusion? >> i think it's wrong. i would take this to the u.s. supreme court. i am not kidding. it involves speech. speech should be protected. you can't tell me i can't go in to say # women rule and they will kick me out of the bar. greg, i could understand kicking out. why should he be prevented if he is not disturbing anybody. >> that's the key, he was. >> but they tried and say, well, is it disturbing the peace? that's an infraction. if he got in a fight over something, that's one thing. just to wear something should be protected under free speech and the first amendment. >> jesse? >> is this the west village?

>> [laughing]. >> kicking out a trump supporter. >> a guy with a trump hat to a village bar. >> obviously asking for trouble and he is allowed to do that. i have not been kicked out of a bar in weeks. i think the guy knew what he was getting into. >> greg, a slippery slope absolutely not. the bar is a scabbing red place. i -- sacred place. i spend more time in the bars than at home. he was not kicked out. he spent over $200 at the bar. 17 drinks. he was with friends. he was there a long time. you know how this happens in a bar. you always have to side with the owner of the bar. somebody gets louder and gets more obnoxious and they are mad when they are asked to leave.

left a 20% tip and then gets mad and does something that everybody should hate. suing over small and petty things. that makes me sick. even if he was right, which he is not, it's petty to sue. it clogs up the court system. stop being a drunker jerk. >> my god. >> were you there? >> yes, i was there. >> geraldo? >> if i work a new york football giants hat in a philadelphia bar see how i would fare. >> you would fair well. i have seen you box. >> thank you. the judge dismissed it. >> they discriminate against political speech. the guy tried to make it into a spirituality thing. >> i think you are all wrong. there is an important free speech here. you want to separate the facts

about how much he tipped. you can wear a hat or t-shirt to say you political expression. >> i own the business and i can kick people out. >> what about kanye west? >> it's your business. we had the same argument with cake breaking. don't be a hypocrite. >> an argument to be made. it's the legal precedent set here and not whether or not the guy was right in filing the lawsuit. >> if it's my bar and somebody making my bar uncomfortable, i will ask you to leave. speci especially if they are going to leave anyone. >> what if they ruled only republicans in a bar or only democrats in a bar. >> stay right there. it's "fan mail friday" when "the five" returns. ancestrydna has 5x more detail than other tests...

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candace: brilliant question. >> this is a really brilliant question. let's see. i feel like they would think i had to be defending myself. physically. i am constantly on college campuses. black lives matter protestors shouting at us and playing beyonce. they get aggressive. it's a measure in patience to let this person shout at me and get close to my face. it would be something ridiculous. >> i enjoy that. >> jesse? >> drunk and disordly. >> doesn't sugar coat it. >> geraldo. >> definitely a bar fight. >> [laughing]. i broke a window once.

>> kimberly, i would say in brawler fashion it would be a physical attack upon somebody that was with me or in self-defense. >> [laughing]. >> oh, god. >> [overlapping talking]. >> i could see my arrest which scary. being led off an airplane in handcuffs because something mixed with something. >> [laughing]. >> wait! >> [laughing]. >> i could just see it and apologized afterward. >> this is a fun question. it's hard:

geraldo, gone with the wind? >> gosh. >> you are so mean. >> [laughing]. >> my first movies were 4 movies for 25 cents. >> you remember that but not the first movie? >> i don't remember. >> kimberly? >> star wars. >> that was your first movie? >> i saw star wars in the theatre and had to leave because i got upset when the mask came up. >> he started crying. >> and the whole michael jackson. >> candace. >> you will be surprised here. the sound of music. i had no idea what it was about. i thought it was the happiest movie ever with children dancing and singing. still one of my favorite movies >> didn't the scenery back drop

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>> ♪ >> it's time for "one more thing." greg? >> tomorrow night the greg gutfeld is live at 10 o'clock and it's going to be so much better than the white house correspondents dinner which sucks. we have dr. drew pinsky and we have special little surprises in store. it will be live so anything can happen. >> all right. thank you very much. good luck with that. 10 o'clock. jesse? >> the late breaking mom text. this just in: fact checker. your first film was not star wars, it was et and you sobbed. >> [laughing]. >> oh my god. nice! >> mom calling me out for crying. >> i am also live saturday night covering donald trump's

counter-programming rally to the correspondents dinner and candace will join me. 8 o'clock eastern "watters world." >> all righty. we have a couple of "one more thing"s today. candace and i will be in dallas in june for the turning point usa young women's leadership conference. put up the full screen. it's jam-packed with talent. june 14th to june 17th. >> the convention bureau will never be the same. >> men can speak too. >> oh, i thought it was just for women. >> no gender identity politics here. >> who will be here on fox during that time? >> [laughing]. >> one lucky guy. >> candace, you are up. >> if i get time on "one more thing" it's always a cat video. cats make everybody happy.

yes, here it is. >> oh! >> i am a crazy cat lady, everybody. you need to know this. >> wait a minute, can i use this one? >> oh, i thought i used this one. >> i remember the cat on the broom. >> cutest thing ever. >> you stole my cat video. >> i did! [laughing]. >> the cat looks like it's being injured. we are not too sure. >> not a fan of sweeping. >> i would rather see a dog video than that. >> geraldo? >> a shout out to my 98-year-old mom billie. he's been gravely ill over the last several days. we were afraid we would lose her, but she rallied. my brother and sisters are down there. they made her an omelet and she

rallied. her heart beat sped up and breathing more deeply. a wonderful lady. the mother of five. 17 grandkids. >> she was your mom. she must have been through hell. >> [laughing]. >> it's a great story. my mom from jersey city was a waitress in charles cafeteria and met by dad off the banana boat. it was really a boat. he was a pot washer in the cafeteria. they met. a jewish woman marrying a puerto rico catholic. illegal in many states. they had a wonderful marriage. my dad passed a long time ago. my mom continues on in florida. i will go there. >> making sure you are still a good boy. >> yes. >> oh. >> a shout out to my friend who was here in studio with us.

he was the chief advisor during the brexit movement. a brand new book out. check it out on amazon.com. have a great weekend. "special report" is next. >> bret: north korea and south korea leaders make leaps and bounds to peace. laying the browned ground work for a meeting between president trump and kim jong-un. and the russian investigation and what critics say is a rushed one sided report. and the president's new twitter pal is getting heated reaction. this is "special report." >> ♪ > bret: good evening. i am bret baier. an historic literal step forward in the dmz gives us a precursor to the meeting between president trump and north korea leader k