assassinated on his yacht. he was devastated. we'll see you back here monday night at 7:00. tucker carlson is up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> >> tucker: good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. the news stacks up and we finally get answers. we have some tonight. after year of research and interviews the house intelligence committee has finally concluded its investigation into this russian meddling during the 2016 election that you have been hearing so much about. the final report is out. it's more than 200 pages long. here's the headline. investigators found no evidence of collusion or coordination of any kind between the russian government and the donald trump for president campaign. none. so that's bad news for the other cable channels. they probably ought to apologize for the entire

last year of their programming but obviously don't hold your breath. but to the rest of us, there is really no surprise here because there was never any evidence of collusion. it was always a fantasy. by the way, the report does not offer any evidence that the russian government directed the hacking of the dnc servers or john podesta's g mail account either. to this day, though no one ever says it, no one has ever came up with any proof that happened despite the fact that we are all required to believe that happened or else we are russian agents ourselves but whatever. there is not a lot new about the trump campaign in this report. there is quite a bit about how washington actually works. consider former director of national intelligence jim clapper. for years, clapper was one of the most powerful intelligence chiefs in the world. now is he a cable news shouter and political activist. he is also a prolific liar. according to today's reports in sworn testimony to congress, under oath. clapper claimed that he never discussed the steele dossier with anyone in the

press. that's untrue. the report revealed that clapper whispered to cnn about the steele dossier and months later, of course, the network hired him as a contributor. he still is one. yesterday jim comey told our friend bret baier that clapper encouraged him to discuss the dossier with the president. that briefs was later used by cnn and other media outlets to justify reporting on thes to yea. and so on in the circular fashion we have been watching for the last year. in other words, the whole thing was a setup from the beginning. no one ever believed the does quay was true or cared if it was true. it was always just a tool designed to hamstring the administration that permanent washington opposed from day one. trump was on to this actually from the beginning. he couldn't really explain it, but he could smell it, which is his one great talent and he was right. of course, he was attacked mercilessly for suggesting the so-called intel community might not be on the level. how dare he do that he yelped on cnn. they are public servants

dedicated their lives to keeping you safe blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. actually some of them are people. some are great people. some rotten and unethical. some would use leaks, deception and intend dough to reverse results of an election. most people understand. this that's why the phrase deep state is suddenly part of the public conversation. john brennan is part of the reason by the way. brennan is the former head of the cia and like jirmt clammer is enthusiastic liar. like clapper he has begun second career as legal analyst. brennan denounced the entire thing as meaningless. he then said this on twitter directly to the president, quote the: the special counsel's findings will be comprehensive and authoritative, stay tuned, mr. trump. he audite audit an ellipsis to e it extra ominous, which it was. okay. so the long-time chief of a shadowy intelligence agency is warning the democratically elected president of our country that something bad is about

to happen to him. apparently because john brennan has inside knowledge the rest of us don't. but don't let that bother you. don't get paranoid or anything. don't buy any of those nutty conspiracy theories about the deep state. everything is fine. just be sure to obey out permanent government in washington or else goons like john brennan will crush you. terry turchie is former deputy assistant director of the counter terrorism. mollimollie hemingway senior editor at the federalist. they join us tonight. mollie, what do you make of this? what's the take away. >> they found after a year of rigorous investigation there is no actual evidence of treasonous collusion between trump and russian government. that's probably thought very surprising. what they did show was that there is quite a lot of collusion at the highest levels of government to cook up and propagate a narrative of russian collusion. we had already learned from this committee about the fisa abuse at doj where they used a research document bought and paid for secretly by hillary clinton and the democratic national committee to secure a

wiretap on a trump campaign affiliate. and then you picked up on this other thing that's interesting. james clapper gave contradictory testimony under oath about what he was leaking to cnn. and that is interesting. the whole thing that got everything going was this briefing of president-elect trump, supposedly about the dossier. we later learned it was only about one salacious part of the dossier. >> this was highly placed. this was well-sourced. obviously. it looks like it went to clapper or someone close to him and learning that this was all done, that comey was asked to brief president-elect trump on this dossier and that this was done because cnn needed a news hook in order to justify writing about a dossier. that is a very interesting detail to learn and should put a lot of the coverage that we have seen for the last 15 months in an entirely new light. >> tucker: i mean, terry, you spent a lot of your life working for the federal government a law enforcement agency that has intelligence components to it the credibility of the agency, i'm sure is important to you. it's important to me as an american citizen. none of this seems to help. i mean, if there is no

collusion at the bottom of all of this, then all of this is starting to look very political and that's bad for the way citizens feel about their government. isn't it? >> absolutely and when you look at this, the real dangerous part of this and the part that should scare every one of us, you just named them. the heads of the major intelligence investigative agency of the united states, the cia and the fbi and the nsa, awful these people at the top appear to have had just one goal in mind. and that was to be anti-trump and to make trouble for him after he became the president. i think it's really interesting that all of this idea of unmasking, for example, didn't really start up until after he became elected. and i think that everybody thought and i think mollie and you and i would not be sitting here today and talking had hillary clinton won the election and donald trump lost. this whole thing about russian collusion vanished. it was a shock to the system. something had to be done because they had to make sure that they impugned

trump so they could be on the way to regain some power again. i really think we have reached a point in america where we don't like to talk about this and we weren't supposed to talk about it for years. but, the democratic party is important. it's part of our two-party system. but it has gone so far to the left that you are seeing all of these kinds of practices and things going on that make you think that maybe the democratic party is it the party that has a real problem with people that have penetrated it. maybe the russians have. maybe the cubans have. maybe the chinese have. there is a lot of indicators here that awful these arrows keep going back in that direction. and they are up to their eyeballs in all of these things that we're told were supposed to make trump look bad and look like he was colluding with the russians. which is not the case. >> tucker: right. maybe they just don't believe in democracy. so results don't go their way they try to undermine them. i'm really bothered by this tweet and the larger behavior of john brennan.

i don't understand why a former cia director would send out a tweet and threatening him. he knows something about the mueller investigation. almost designed. >> almost designed that way. there was a pattern with him. a year and three months ago when donald trump was critical of convention agencies and intelligence community in general general, a lot of people said you better stop it or they will get back at you. shortly thereafter this briefing occurred. it was immediately leaked to cnn and the entire russia narrative really got going. this is the hysteria that has caused quite a bit of emotional and financial impact on the united states including the setting up of the special counsel and we learned james comey did admit he had been sharing information with multiple people. he claimed it's not a leak when he shares classified information with people for some reason it makes sense to him for the rest of us

would be criminal leaking and this is comey, clapper, brennan, brennan highly partisan tweets and highly threatening tweets. >> tucker: they are ominous. leaked the transcript of the president's conversation with foreign leaders. terry, i want to end with you since you spent a lot of your life working at high levels of government you don't seem like a conspiracy nut or crazy person. i don't think that i am. are you starting to think there is a kind of loose conspiracy of intent among permanent bureaucrats in washington? it seems that way. >> i think there is. i think that unfortunately a lot of the dogma and the ideology, tucker of the 1960's, where we were dealing with revolutionaries out in the street, i think a lot of that has now found its way inside government all these years later. and i know people are going to say oh wow there is an old communist chaser. that's what it looks like to me. the words that were used then and words used now, people may not realize it.

if you look at the prairie fire ideology, written by bill ayers and several other people back in the 1970s, the chief strategy to deal with infiltrating and then overthrowing eventually the united states government, is called the resistance. and if you go into the detail of that 181 pages, if you really want to, the words come back and have a real strong meaning and a real ring because they are everything we hear today, fascism, racism, native american injustice. >> tucker: i remember. >> all of these things are back and now they bark. but the people are using them are in a political party i think behind the scenes trying to do everything they can to convert us in the direction of socialism and our intelligence agencies that are supposed to protect us seem to be part of that now. >> tucker: baby boom took over. none of this should surprise us. terry and mollie thank you both of very much. robin a regional on barack obama's regional campaign. he joins us now.

robin, i watched the coverage of this report and it does come from the republican majority in the intel committee. the coverage suggests an even deeper conspiracy. are the republicans on the intel committee intentionally, do you believe, covering up collusion with a foreign power in order to help donald trump? >> do i believe that? >> tucker: yeah. >> it's tough to say. devin nunes was on the transition team. is he basically a yes man for donald trump. it seemed to me like they're engaging in willful ignorance. partisan to me. my problem with it is that they specifically did not subpoena any electronic of elecn information. they didn't get any financial records. this doesn't seem like a very complete investigation. tuck talk so but i just want to make it clear. i want to understand out suggestion here. the idea is that the republicans on the committee, on the intel committee, supposed to be the most responsible members of the house of representatives. >> right. >> tucker: know or suspect that the campaign colluded

with the hostile foreign power but are hiding it because they love trump or because their russians, too or what would be the motive there. >> no. tucker, i think it's basically like i said willful ignorance. i don't think they want to find out that that happened because they want their guy to remain in power. so, that's why. >> tucker: sthey would hide treason? they would hide treason, really? >> i would certainly hope not. listen i'm a veteran of the 75th ranger regiment. i took an oath to defend and protect the country against all enemies foreign and domestic. i would hope that our elected representatives would not do something as treasurtreacherous as that the t they would not subpoena these people. the fact that some of these witnesses now are pleading the fifth. i remind that you donald trump himself said that anybody who pleads the fifth is likely guilty and now they are not following. >> tucker: i would remind you the president is not a constitutional scholar. >> true nor am i or you.

>> tucker: we understand it's a constitutionally guaranteed right and it doesn't imply guilt, actually as liberals are used to remind us. we have been at this for the entire course of trump's term as president. this has been the focus russian collusion. here you have the most expensive report to date says there isn't any. the mueller investigation hasn't found any that we know of and they leak everything so you would think we would know. at what point can we move to fixing the problems of the problem like the middle class is dying, no longer the majority. 60,000 people died of drug ods. do we get to move on to that. >> i hope to god we move on from this. we have been talking about this forever. i would love for this to draw as a collusion. protecting our way as a democracy is paramount importance. how much time did we spend investigating hillary clinton's emails? it was like 17 investigations. i just want this one. >> tucker: just to be clear, i wasn't exactly leading the charge on that either. i just think at some point let me ask you quickly because no one ever asks this.

and it is central. when are we going to see evidence that the russian government hacks the dnc servers which were never, as you know, never examined by the u.s. government in any way? there is no actual evidence of that. we all assume it's true. whenever i raise this question they are like you are working for putin. are we ever going to see evidence of that. >> you know, that he a very fair question. >> tucker: yeah, i know. >> i want to know the answer to that question just as well as you do. i'm giving the dnc side eye on that. myself i question it. it doesn't make sense to me. americans do deserve answers on that from the dnc, specifically. so, that's a very fair question. >> tucker: too much lying. are we sure assad used chemical weapons? shut up they explain. >> they are real questions. >> tucker: yes. robin, thank you. good to see you. >> thank you so much. tucker. you too. >> tucker: joy reed has a theory about what happened to her blog. unseen saboteurs came in

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>> tucker: joy reed is still employed at ntsb apparently but neither she or the

network are feeling much joy. instead of apologizing for her blog posts which were pretty embarrassing she is pushing a ludicrous claim she was hacked by unknown saboteurs. we couldn't even find anyone to defend joy reid and we tried because trust me absolutely nobody believes her. the question is where does ntsb go from here. a radio host and opinion he editor at the "washington times" and very astute observer of the media scene. i don't want to pile on joy reid as i sa said last night i feel bad. >> it's not about joy reid. >> tucker: they signed ton yet another lie. there is a litany of them they have been telling over there. how long before their shareholders or comcast say who vunning this thing? >> in any other business you would think that's what would happen. the ceo picks up the phone and says we have all these other divisions that has their act together what's wrong with you. >> there is a litany of issues from defending mark halperin when he had his issues to defending matt lauer and tom brokaw is in

the news and we don't know where that is going to go. joy reid is a very interesting case. because, a week ago, the only problem was that she had some, you know, homophobic or at least homophobic a adjacent comments on an old blog. i apologize. i had weird views before. i have evolved. now everything is fine. now they have a journalist that hosts a television show about news and politics that appears to be a liar. that's a major problem. >> tucker: is she back on the air tomorrow. she is on the weekends. >> i checked before i came on. it's friday and they can make an announcement. in the last 48 hours, "the huffington post," the atlantic, daily beast and the nation, all those crazy far right entities they have all disavowed this hacking claim. >> tucker: i worked on that channel and i know a lot of them. like rachel maddow. i night admit it but i do. she is a nice person. has she came out to say

anything about this. >> silence. >> tucker: no support from the other anchors. >> right. >> tucker: network executives are supportive. >> what the network executives did is very interesting. joy reid had her own internet cyber security consultant put together a dossier if you will. and ntsb news circulated it quietly though. they didn't put their peacock brand on it. they didn't do a big public announcement. but they sent it out to a lot of different media critics and observers so it could get into the news and they could say this is what this cyber security expert said. the problem is this cyber security expert is starting to look like the inspector clues so he of thclouseau. he hasn't been able to back up with any proof. >> tucker: they traffic in the poison that is identity politics which is a call did cud did he sack and will destroy the country. if you are going to hire joy reid as a hovis color have have you got to fire tom brokaw. >> or brian williams. if we are firing people for

lying. >> here is what is interesting. you are seeing people line up and say she is a very important african-american woman with a very important righteous african-american voice on msnbc. therefore, we stand by her. they are not making a judgment whether she lied or not or whether she made those statements. >> they are saying we are standing by her. >> tucker: those are secondary considerations. >> let's not forget this is ntsb news the dumped access hollywood tape. "the today show" person dumped that tape out there. they held it for as long as they could and dumped it when it would be the most damaging to president trump. >> tucker: weird it went from noah oppenheimer a friend at "the washington post": >> the stars align. >> tucker: i love listening to you. the central american car van has arrived at the better. claiming asylum. what happens now? we will tell you. stay tuned. ♪ ♪

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>> tucker: after weeks of much hype and then false reports that it had been stopped, the infamous caravan of central american migrants has arrived at the u.s.-mexico border. hundreds have arrived at makeshift settlement in tijuana right across the border from san diego. some may plan to sneak across. others protect themselves at the point of entry and demand asylum in this country. will it work? how does that work. deputy director of ice and

he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: we know this group has been coming. we have been watching on video for weeks now. would it be possible, legal to say you are not residents. have you no legal right to come in. no you can't cross the border. >> couple things to do. if they are really seeking asylum, they just passed through a safe nation of mexico. if it's a matter of leaving guatemala honduras. went through mexico they can claim asylum there. i don't know if this is as much claim asylum or getting to the united states. >> tucker: clearly a scam, obviously. we know that but what can we do about it? >> congress needs to take some action. we sent a list of legislative fix loopholes they need to address. for instance, the treasure holds on claiming fear are so low. nearly 90% of people claim fear will get a yes from cis because the thresholds are

so low. then they go see a judge if they ever show up to see a judge. those approvals are much lower like 30%. we need to fix that and move those hearings up in front of immigration judge so they have that formal hearing. most of them do not get fear finding because they don't have a credible case to present. they need to be quickly removed. >> tucker: how does it work? anybody can show up at the border without papers and say "i'm in here for my life or i'm afraid in some way and then they are let into the united states? >> well, they will be held and interviewed. family unit we have a ninth circuit decision that can say we can only detain family units up to 20 days. they can't possibly have a hearing in front of a judge that quick so they eventually are released. >> tucker: newt united states? >> yes. we have asked congress to look at that. it's called the florida settlement agreement. we want them to address that legislatively. if they close these lop

holes we can control the border. last year 45% -- 45-year low in border crossings because this president has taken border security seriously. ice fine men and women of border patrol do the job. now the smugglers figure out the loopholes and use them against us. congress needs to act and close these loopholes so we can do our job and secure the border. >> tucker: as long as you claim fear you cannot be immediately deported you are released into the united states. >> if you claim fear and you get interviewed and can you pass a very low threshold of -- and most these people being trained and taught what to say by groups down in mexico, come in and make that claim. we cannot remove you. those claims have to be adjudicated. >> tucker: we are basically helpless. we have hamstrung ourselves it sounds like? >> again, if we fix the loopholes, we would be in a lot better position. for instance, the adults we are detaining until they see the judge. the family is the big issue.

that's what most of these are family unit or children. we have certain court decisions that limit what we can do. how long we detain them. that's what needs to be fixed. we presented that to representatives on the hill months ago. so, if they really want to address this migration they can simply help news closing loopholes. >> tucker: i bet they don't want to. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: enrique anchor at univision, thanks for coming on tonight. >> thanks for having me, tucker. >> tucker: you have a reporter embedded in this caravan, correct? >> yes. no offense bus we like to report on the news from the field instead of a studio or behind the news desk. >> tucker: quite intrepid of you enrique. of a you will at things happening in country and there are a lot. why this caravan, why is this at the center of your

news coverage? why do you think it merits embedded reporter. >> we never carried the caravan before. it happens every year. president trump wrote series of tweets and it became a national news story. we wanted to see what was happening firsthand. that's why we sent a correspondent and that's why he has been following that caravan for weeks now. >> tucker: interesting. during the course of your coverage did your correspondent ever ask people in the caravan the obvious question if you are fleeing honduras because you are afraid to live there and searching for asylum. you are in mexico, which is a pretty safe country, i would assume. why wouldn't you ask for asylum in mexico? >> you are very intelligent man, tucker. and i just heard director homan say mexico is a safe country. mexico had the most violent year in decades in 2017, more than 26,000 murders. i wouldn't call that a safe country.

>> tucker: thank you for agreeing with me because, of course, i have been making that point for the last year. so, if it's such dangerous country filled with so many violent people, why would we let any of them into our country? we have millions of mexican citizens living in america right now. if you are right up against a country that's totally out of control and people shooting each other in the numbers that you just described. wife wouldn't you be care find to let them in. >> i think you are not getting the criminals. the best of mexico. oh. >> >> people willing to works two or three shifts a day. people fleeing that violence that's what you are getting. not rapist and criminals. >> tucker: we don't know that, of course, because we have. >> no, we do. >> tucker: actually, we don't. >> have you seen the data. less prone to commit crime than native born citizens. >> tucker: there are no data because we don't allow, thanks to advocacy people like you the question of citizenship to be asked on the census forms and we don't actually know the eye at this of the mor identity itse

people here because they are using fake documents. there is no national survey of illegals. why shouldn't would he be worried about that. >> you shouldn't be worried because statistics say and it's very clear that immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native born citizens. that's a fact. the overwhelming majority. i don't know why we have to keep debating. this it's a fact. overwhelming majority of immigrants in this country are law abiding, hard-working people. >> tucker: we are not debating that i have never disagreed with that i think immigrants are great, actually. i like immigrants. mexican, honduran and all immigrants. i think if you have an incredibly most violent countries in the world a poor country with remarkably low education levels. >> it's not a poor country. one of the 10 largest economies in the world. >> tucker: we are going to let in everywhere poor person from this undeveloped violent badly educated into

our country it's hard to see why you would do that and expect you are going to profit from it and we haven't. that is the obvious question. >> mexico one of the 10 largest economies in the world. not poor country or under developed country. >> tucker: why are millions of people leaving? you are saying it's violent and poor that's why people are coming but it's not violent and poor it's great. >> tucker, i didn't say it wasn't violent it had over 26,000 murders last year. not poor one of the 10 largest economies in the world. people are coming over because of 700-mile wall built. there is a big sign it says help wanted. as long as and you know this about supply and demand. as long as there is demands to these jobs -- >> tyson chicken not in charge of america. we have a government. citizens elect length lay tores to pass laws. they get to decide. big employers don't get to make our policies.

american citizens. that's one of the things different between u.s. and mexico. it's a democracy. our laws say they are not allowed to be here. you are arguing our laws are worthless and the opinions of american citizens don't mean anything. that's what you are arguing. you can see why we resent that can't you? >> i wouldn't argue that laws are not necessary or that rule of law is not a fundamental part of our democracy. of course it is. i wouldn't argue that mexico is not a democracy either. actually they are going to have an election in two months to choose their next president. that's part of being a democracy. what i would say is that we have to, in order to move forward with a real comprehensive solution, we have to tell the truth to the american people. a weak unprotected border is not the reason that the people are coming to the u.s. the reason why they are coming to the u.s. is because help is wanted. the economy depends on those jobs. many industries the construction. >> tucker: no, that's not true. >> depend on cheap labor. >> tucker: what you are saying is the will of big companies is more important than the will of american

citizens who would like to control who comes here. they don't think it should be up to employers, chicken plants who comes here, walmart who comes here. they think they should have a say. they passed laws that say they don't wants it. why is that not relevant. >> i'm 100 percent behind you on that. the vast majority of american people are behind comprehensive imcongratulations reform. in favor of pathing solutions in congress that held the dreamers. they are no favor of not building a wall. >> tucker: you guys over at univision i have to say we have laws on the book extant laws in force that say no one can come here without authorization from the federal government, period. we have, i don't know, 15 million, pick a number between 10 and 15 million people here illegally and you think that's cool and you say you are for the rule of law. [laughter] >> you know what, tucker, i think and it might advise you undocumented immigration is not desirable. they don't want to leave

behind their families. people coming to the states why do rewe have to take them. in we agree undocumented immigration is not the outcome. how we fix that is where we are not on the same page. >> tucker: enrique, thank you for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: well, the "new york times" reporter assigned to hillary clinton has a new book out with a portrait of the clintons that she developed over 10 years of covering them. she joins us next. stay tuned. ♪ ♪ feel the clarity of non-drowsy claritin and relief from symptoms caused by over 200 allergens. like those from buddy. because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones. feel the clarity and live claritin clear.

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thanks for coming on. you have taken grief for this book from the right that says you concede in the book that had you affinity for hillary, you share her politics. i want to say at the outset i like the fact that you were honest about it unlike a lot of reporters you have to guess. you were direct and i appreciate it given that the miller people are sniping about you and complaining about you like you are the problem. why? seems to say a lot about them. >> exactly. apparently this is the book that the clintons don't want you to read. as you point out it is partly sympathetic to her. i anticipated the blow back. part of what i get into in the book is that there is no gray area for hillary clinton, you are either completely devoted to her or an enemy. a lot of the time my coverage was in between. and sometimes i wrote some tough stories. i was the beat reporter covering this campaign day in and day out. so, you know, there wasn't a lot of gray area. you were either the enemy or you were, you know, completely devoted. >> tucker: but i mean, how

sort of out of it do you have to be and i know the clinton people feel this way think the "new york times" is too right wing to cover hillary clinton. they have said that to me so i know they actually feel that way. what planet are they on. >> they are on planet hillary which i have written about extensively. one of the themes in the book that your viewers will find surprising decades long battle between the "new york times" and the clinton camp, something i was my eabout when i was put on the beat in 2013. i hadn't anticipated that her aids would essentially blame me for the white water scandal which, tucker, happened when i was 12. but there is all this which, of course, the "new york times" broke. there is all this bad blood passed on between the clints and "new york times" from generation to generation of which i was a recipient put on her 2016 campaign. i think it would surprise a lot of people that that an noanimosity exists. >> tucker: chelsea is mad at

at you. >> chelsea sent 30 tweets in the past few days criticizing some of my reporting. >> tucker: let me ask you a question. so you said in the book i think i knew this overwhelming beat reporter covering hillary was a women. hillary was running a campaign if sh she was a woman: you know that's kind of stack ago deck a little bit. do you see a problem with that arrangement? >> that's interesting. because one of the things in the book that i points out is like hillary actually liked the guys. like your very own ed henry would grill her about other emails and she kind of liked -- she liked the banter with him. she was flirty with some of the guys. i don't think there was a particular like love fest because women were covering her. if anything, i think there was the perception that women might be tougher on her to kind of prove, you know, the counter to your point. to prove we weren't in the tank. >> tucker: is she the first

self-described feminist you have ever met harder on women than she is on men? >> i cannot answer that question. >> tucker: i think we both know. amy "new york times," thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. thank you. >> tucker: in utah students can retreat to cry closet to weep during finals because college is hard. cathy areu makes the case for cry closets. for cry closets. next. technology designed to quickly wick away moisture to help maintain your skin's natural balance. for a free sample call 1-877-get-tena. you won't find relief here. congestion and pressure? go to the pharmacy counter for powerful claritin-d. while the leading allergy spray relieves 6 symptoms... claritin-d relieves 8, including sinus congestion and pressure.

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♪ ♪ >> tucker: college students tend to get stressed out by finals if you attend the university of utah, you have an option. it's called the cry closet.

the closet is the creation of a art student exists for stressed out students step into it for 10 minutes of crying to help cope with the test. the closet interior includes fuzzy stuffed animals for maximum coping. the question is it time to go national with this. weeping wardrobes erected across this fragile country. only one woman make the case for that cathy areu publishing of catalina magazine and sherpa. good to see you tonight. >> good to see you. >> tucker: college, of course, is the least stressful place there is. >> least stressful? >> tucker: sure. did you go to class for two hours a week and get drunk the rest of the time. >> oh, come on. that's not everyone's experience. it's very stressful. they are learning. the future. these are our citizens of tomorrow. and they are learning as much as they can. they are as stressed as can be they need psychological help. they need this bioenergetic

way to get out their stress. 10 minutes of a good cry in a cry closet to then be prepared to take those exams from everything they have learned in those classes. >> tucker: we don't have time for tour define bioenergetic on the show so we will let that pass. >> thank you. >> tucker: does this suggest something about the fragility of their mental health. if you are so stressed about taking some dumb test at some dumb school doesn't that mean you are on the edge of a breakdown? >> no. don't we all need a good old fashioned cry? this is an old fashioned remedy to a modern day problem. it's just about crying 10 minutes of crying. everyone needs a stress ball. many people own stress pal balls. this is interpresentation of a giant stress ball. >> tucker: let's say we had a war. i don't know, pick a country. china challenged us where we had to mobilize a large number of americans to defend the homeland. >> okay. >> tucker: but everyone is crying. would anybody be left to

fight the war. can you defend a country if you are encouraging kids to cry about final exams. >> if everyone takes a moment aside to center themselves, ground themselves, have a cry, maybe for two, three minutes and then go fight that are with a, i'm sure the war would be won with people such a great state of mind. >> tucker: could you take a break conceivably between battles to cry? >> i think the break would have to be done before the battle but they would be in the right mind set before that battle that they would win that battle. i think that's what this whole closet is about. the cry closet is about getting that right state of mind. yeah. >> tucker: would you want to use a closet others have cried in? >> i don't think i would have a problem with it sounds very cozy and google has done this out in silicon valley. so many companies have created ping-pong tables and very comfortable corporate settings where people can let off steam. >> tucker: if a cry closet is called for how about like a petting zoo like a bunny stroking station.

is that too far? could you envision that? >> you know, it's the future. if people are comfortable and work better after being centered and calmer, then why not? bring the bunnies in, yes. >> tucker: let me ask you a macropoint. we haven't talked about this. i don't want to shock you or anything. i thought the whole idea was to get people to come out of the closet. you are looking in the camera and say people go back in the closet. do you as a progressive feel good about that. >> go in for 10 minutes so can you come out confidently and feel good. you might want to go into that cry closet right before the show and have a great show afterwards. >> tucker: i know this is like television and you don't want to be too honest. let's try to push the lever. >> i'm always honest with you. >> tucker: if you knew a man i could date that man. i'm sorry i have got to take a quick break and go cry in a closet while squeezing a stuffed animal, that would wreck the deal for it, honestly. >> probably say i'm going to go center myself so i can be

a stronger, better person for you, yeah, i would love that person. i think that's great. i think that's healthy. who doesn't want to be with a healthy person. >> tucker: part of you would look on con temp justly you weak little freak stop crying, right? >> what a strong person who understands themselves or herself or whatever pronoun that person wishes to be called. >> tucker: i don't believe you for a second. you would want to think that as a good progressive you would think this is wholesome. this is consistent with my ideology. on a gut level you would say stop whimpering. >> every place has a cry closet and every place has a safe place. cry closet can be the bathroom. everyone needs a good cry closet. old fashioned way of letting out stress and relieving tension. >> tucker: i'm going to leave it. >> there okay. >> tucker: cathy areu liberal sherpa, great to see you.

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