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for the entire last year of their programming but don't hold your breath. to the rest of us, there is no surprise here. evidence ofver any collusion. it was always a fantasy. by the way, the report does not offer any evidence that the russian government directed the hacking of the dnc servers or john podesta's email account either. to this day, though no one ever says it,e no one has come up wih proof that that happen, despite the fact we are required to believe that it happened or else we are russian agents. whatever. there's not a lot new about the trump campaign in this report. but there is quite a bit about how washington actually works. consider former director of national intelligence, jim clapper. for years, clapper was one of the most powerful intelligence world.in the now he's a cable news shouter and a prolific liar. according to today's report, and sworn testimony to congress under oath, clapper claimed he never discussed for steelee

dossier with anyone in the press. that is untrue. the report said that he whispered to cnn about the steele dossier, and months later, they hired him as a contributor and he still is one. yesterday, jim comey told bret baier that clapper told him to discuss that with the president way that was later used by cnn to justify reporting on the dossier. and so in a circular fashion we been watching. in other t words, the whole thig was a setup from the beginning. no one ever really believed that dossier was truet or cared if it was true. it was always just a tool designed to hamstring the administration and permanent washington opposed from day one. trump was onto this actually from the beginning. he couldn't really explain it but he could smell it, which it is one great talent, and he was right, of course he was attacked mercilessly for suggesting so called intel community might not be on the level. how dare he do that, they yelped on cnn. they are public servants, he dedicated their lives to keeping

you safe, blah, blah, blah. actually they are just people. some of them are great people. some of them are rotten and unethical. someone gladly use leaks, deception, innuendo, to reverse the results of an election. most people understand that way that is why the deep state as part of the public conversationb john brennan as part of the reason, by the way, the former head of the cia. like jim clapper, he's an accomplished and enthusiastic liar. like clapper, he's been on a second career as a political activist. almost immediately after today's report was released, long before he could have read it, he denounced the entire thing is meaningless. he then said this on twitter directly to the president. "the special counsel's findings will be comprehensive and authoritative. stay tuned, mr. trump." he added a ellipsis. the longtime chief of the

intelligence agency is warning the president that something is going to have happened to him apparently because john brennan has inside knowledge that none of us don't play don't get paranoid, don't buy any of those not a conspiracy theories about the deep state. everything is fine. just be sure to obey the permanent governmentls in washington or else goons like john brennan will crush you. former deputy assistant director of the fbi's counterterrorism division. mollie hemingway, senior editor at "the letter list. what do you make ofo this, mollie? >> after a year of rigorous investigation, there is no evidence of treasonous collusion between trump on the russian government. that is not very surprising. what they did show was that there is quite a lot of collusion at the highest levels of government to cook up and propagated narrative of russian collusion. we learned from his committee about the fisa abuse at doj, where they used an mike a research document bought and paid for secretly by hillary clinton and the depth oe

democratic national committee to secure a wiretap, and then you picked up on this otherng thing, james clapper gave contradictory testimony under oath about he wastoha looking to cnn. that is interesting. the whole thing but got everything going was this briefing of president-elect supposedly about the dossier. we later learned it was about one salacious part of the dossier. this was highly placed, well sourced, it looks like it went to clapper, someone close to him. learning that this was all done, that comey was asked to brief president trump, that is a interesting detail to learn and chat but a lot of the coverage that we've seen for the last 16 months in new light. >> tucker: terry, you spent a lot of your life working for the federal government, a law enforcement agency that has intelligence components by the o credibility of the agency is important to you, it's important to me is that a citizen.

none of that seems to help. if there is no collusion, although this is starting to look very political and that's bad for the way citizens feel about their government. isn't it? >> absolutely. when you look at this, the real danger is part of it, the part that should scare us, you just named them. the heads of the major intelligence and investigative agencies, cia, fbi, nfa, all all of these people at the top appear to have had one goal in mind, and that is to be anti-trump and to make trouble for him after the he became the president. it is interesting that all oft this idea of unmasking for example did not start up until after he became elected. i think that everybody thought --nd i think mollie andi would not be sitting here today had hillary clinton won the election and donald trump lost. this whole thing about russian collusion would have managed somewhere. really, that was a shock to the system. something had to be done because

they had to make sure that they impugn drum so they could maybe be on the way to regain some sort of power again. iai really think we have reachea point in america where we don't like to talk about this and we weren't supposed to talk about it for years but the democratic party, it's important, part of the two party system, but it has gone so far developed, you are seeing these practices and things going on that make you think that maybe the democratic party is the party that has aeo real problem with people who have penetrated it, may be the russians, the chinese, but there is a real -- a lot of indicators here that all of these arrows keep going back in that direction. they are up to their eyeballs in all of these things that we are told were supposed to make trump look bad and make it look like he was colluding with the russians, which is not the case. >> tucker: they just don't believe in democracy. when the results don't go their way, they try to undermine it. i'm really bothered by this

tweet and the larger behavior of john brennan. i don't understand why a former cia director would senator tweet in effect threatening the president suggesting that he know something about this be mueller investigation that the rest of us don't. it's almost designed to convince us the deep state is real. >> there's also been a pattern for him. about a year and three months ago, when donald trump wasig critical of intelligence agencies and intelligence community in general, a lot of p people said, you better stop it or they will get back at you. shortly thereafter, this briefing occurred, immediately leaked to cnn, and the entire russian narrative really got going. this is a hysteria that has caused quite a bit of emotional and financial impact on the united states, including the setting up of the special counsel, and we learned this week that james comey did admit that he had been sharing classified information withpl multiple people. he claims it's not a leak when he shares classified information with people. for someat reason it makes sense to him. for the rest of us it would be criminal leaking.

this is comey, clapper, brennan's highly partisan and threatening tweets. >> tucker: they are ominous. they leech the conversations of the president's's conversations with foreign leaders.f terry, you don't seem like a conspiracy not a crazy person, i don't think that i am. are you trying to think that there is a loose conspiracy of intent among bureaucrats in washington? >> i think there is. i think that unfortunately, a lot of the dogma and the ideology, tucker, of the 1960s where we were dealing with revolutionaries in the street, i think a lot of that has now found its way inside government all these years later and it will people will say, wow, there's an old communist chaser but that is what it looks like to me. it looks like the words that were used then and the words that use now, people may not

look at it, but if you look at the prairie fire ideology written by bill ayers back in the 1970s, the chief strategy to deal with infiltrating and overthrowing eventually the united states government is called the resistance. if you go into the details of that 181 pages, if you really want to, the words come back and have a real strong meaning and a real ring because they are everything we hear today, fascism, racism, native american injustice, all of these things are back and now they are back but the people that are using them are in a political party i think behind the scenes trying to do everything they can to convert us in the direction of socialism. our intelligence agencies, they are supposed to protect us, seem to be part of that now. >> tucker: the baby boom took over. none of us should surprise us. terry and mollie, thank you. robin was a regional director on barack obama's presidential

campaign. robin, i watched the coverage of this report and it does come from the republican majority in the intel committee put the coverage suggests an even deeper conspiracy. are there republicans on the intel committee intentionally covering up collusion with a foreign power in order to help donald trump? >> do i believe that? it's tough to say. i would say that devin nunes, he was on the transition team. he's basically a yes-man for donald trump. it seems to me like they are engaging in willful ignorance, it seems partisan. my problem with it is that they specifically did not subpoena any electronic information, they didn't get any financial records, so this doesn't seem like a very complete investigation. >> tucker: i just want to understand the suggestion here. the idea is that the republicans on the committee, on the intel committee, the most responsible members of the house of representatives, know ortoto t

suspect that the campaign colluded with a hostile foreign power but are hiding it because they love drawn for because they are russians stooges, too, what would be the motivator? >> no, i think it is willful ignorance. i don't think they want to find out that that happened because they want their guide to remain in power. >> tucker: they would hide treason in the service of that? really? >> i would hope not. i'm a veteran of the 76th ranger regiment. i took an oath to defend and protect the country against all enemies foreign and domestic. i would hope that our elected representatives would not do something as treacherous as batch. the fact they would not subpoena these people, the fact that some of these witnesses now are pleading the fifth, i remind you that donald trump himself said that anybody who pleads the fifth is likely guilty and now they are not following -- >> tucker: i would remind you that the president is not a constitutional scholar.

i think we understand it's a constitutionally guaranteed right and it doesn't imply guilt actually, as liberals use to remind us. i'md wondering, we've been at this for the entire course of trump's term as president. russian collusion. here you have the most comprehensive report to't date says there m isn't any. the mueller investigation hasn't found any that we know of and they leak everything. at what point can we say, let's move on to fixing the problems of the country? the middle class is dying, 60,000 60,000 people die as died of drug ods. to begin to move on? >> tucker, i hope to god we move on. we've been talking about it forever. f i would love for this to draw to a conclusion. as i said, protecting our way of democracy as a fair amount of importance. how much time did we spend investigating hillary clinton's emails? 17ig investigations. >> tucker: by the way, to be clear, i was not leading the charge on that either. i just think -- let me ask you, because no one ever asks this,

and it's central. when a rate going to see evidence that the russianch government hacked the dnc servers, which were never, as you know, never examined by the u.s. government in any way? there is no actual evidence of that that t i've seen. we all assume it's true.hi when i raise this question it's like "you are working for putin." will we ever see evidence of that? >> that's a very fair question. i want to know the answer towe that question just as well as you do. i'm giving the dnc side side eye on that, i question it, it does not makee sense, and i want ans, americans do deserve answers on that from the dnc specifically. that is a very fair question. >> tucker: are we sure assad has chemical weapons? these are real questions. >> they are real questions. >> tucker: robin, thank you. good to see you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: joy reid has a theory about what happened to her blog. saboteurs came in the dark of

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neither she nor the network are feeling much joy. instead of apologizing for her blog posts, which are pretty embarrassing, she's pushing the ludicrous claim that she was hacked by unknown saboteurs. we cannot find anyone to defend joy reid and we tried. no one believes her. the question is, where does nbc go from here? a radio host and opinion editor at the washington times in a very astute observer of the media scene joins us. i don't want to pile on joy reid, as i said last night, i feel bad for her. >> it's not really about her anymore. it's about nbc news. >> tucker: my signed on to yet another lie, there is a litany of them, how long until their shareholders, comcast say, who is running this place? >> and any other business, you would think that would happen. the ceo picked up the phone and says, guys, i've got all these other divisions, what's wrong with you? there's a litany of issues overf there now, from defending mark halperin, matt lauer, and now

tom brokaw is in the news, we don't know where that is going to go. joy reid is a very interesting case because week ago, the only problem was that she had some homophobic adjacent comments on an old blog of hers. she could have easily said, like she did months ago, apologized, i had some weird views before, i've evolved. now they have a journalist to host a television show about news and politics who appears to be a liar. that's a major problem. >> tucker: is she going back on the air tomorrow? >> they've not made an announcement. it is friday and they can make an announcement. tucker, in the last 48 hours, "the huffington post," "the atlantic," "daily beast," "the nation," they have all disavowed this hacking. >> tucker: what are the other acres -- i worked on that channel. i know a lot of them, i like rachel maddow. i hate to admit it, but i do. >> it's a quality show. >> tucker: she's straightforward.

has she said anything about it? >> silent. >> tucker: there's been no support from the other acres but the network executives are supporting her. >> the it's very interesting. joey reed had her own internet cybersecurity consultant put together a dossier, if you will, nbc news circulated quietly. they did not put their peacock brand on it, they did not do a public announcement. they sent it out to a lot of different media critics and observers so that it could get into the news and they could say, this is what the cyber security expert said. the problem is, this cyber security expertt is starting to look like inspector clouseau. every single claim that he has made, he hasn't been able to back up a with proof. >> tucker: here's the problem. they traffic and the poison that is in identity politics that is the cul-de-sac that will destroy the country. they are saying, if you will fire drill read, you got to fire tom brokaw. >> brian williams, i mean,

here's what's interesting, you are seeing people line up and say, she is a very important african-american woman with ata very important and righteous, woke african-american voice on msnbc.c. therefore we stand by her. they are not making a judgment whether she lied or whether she made those statements. they are saying we are standing by her because of what she represents. this is nbc news, the group that dumped the "access hollywood" tape. "the today show" employee that appears as the person who dumpen that tape out there. they held it for as long as they coated and they dumped it right where it would make the most political damage. >> tucker: kind of weird it went to noah oppenheim's friend to college at "the washington post" ahead of nbc. coincidence. stars align sometimes. >> tucker: great to see you. the central american caravan has arrived at the u.s. border, hundreds of people eager to settle in the united states claiming asylum. what happens now? will tell you. ♪ experience lexus safety system plus standard

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>> tucker: after weeks of much hype and then false >> tucker: after weeks of much hype and false reports that it had been stopped, the infamous caravan of central american migrants has arrived at the u.s.-mexico border. hundreds of migrants have arrived in a makeshift settlement in tijuana right across the international border from t san diego. some may try to stick across, others plan to protect them so rude to. how does that work?

deputy director of i.c.e. joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. we know this group is coming, we've been watching on video for weeks now. would it be possible, legal's essay, you are not residents, you have no legal right to come in? no, you can't cross the border? >> a couple things, first of all, if they are seeking asylum, they just passed through a safe nation of mexico. if the matter, guatemala, honduras, and danger, they went to mexico, they could have claimed asylum there. i don't know if this is about claiming asylum as it is getting to the united states. >> tucker: is clearly a scam obviously, we know that. what can we do about it? >> congress needs to take action. we sent a list of love legislative loopholes that need to fix. the thresholds on claiming fear are so low. 90% of people that claim fear will get a reasonable fear from the cis because thresholds are

so low. then they go. if they show up, those approvals are much lower, 30%. we need to fix that and move those hearings up, so they have a formal hearing, most of them do not get for your frightening because they don't have a credible case to present. >> tucker: how does that work? anyone can show up to the border without papers, and say, i'm in fear for my life or i am afraid a boy and the mayor elected to the united states? >> they are held and interviewed by citizenship and immigration services. they are a family unit, we have a ninth circuit decision that says we can only detain family units up to 20 days. they can't have a hearing in front of a judge that quick. they eventually will be released. >> tucker: into the united states. >> yes. we've asked congress to look ate that. we want to address that legislatively. if they close these loopholes,

we can control the border. last year, we had 45% -- 45 year low in border crossings because this president has taken border security seriously, he's got i.c.e. and the fine men and women doing their jobs. and then they find these loopholes and they use them against us. >> tucker: as long as you claim fear, you cannot be immediately deported? you are released into the united states? >> if you claim fear, you can pass a very low threshold of -- most of these people are trained and taught what to say by groups down in mexico, making that claim. we cannot remove you. those claims have to be adjudicated. >> tucker: we are helpless. we have hamstrung ourselves. >> again, if we fix the loopholes, we will be in afo better position. for instance, the adults we are detaining until they see a judge, the family units are the

problem. that is what most of these people are, family units or children, who we have certain court decisions that limit what we can do, how long we detain them. that is what needs to be fixed. ween presented that to the hill months ago. if they really want to address this migration, they can simply help us on close these loopholes. >> tucker: i bet they don't want to. thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: and anchor at univision joins us tonight. thank you for going on. >> thanks for having me, tucker. >> tucker: you all have a reporter embedded in this caravan, is that correct? yes. no offense but we like to report on the news from the field instead of a studio or behind the news desk. >> tucker: [laughs] quite intraoperative you, enrique. that's getting to my question.nt of all the things happening in this country, there are a lot, why does this caravan, wise is at the center of your news

coverage? why do you think it merits an embedded reporter? >> we never covered a caravan before. it happens almost every year. we did this year after president trump wrote a series of tweets about ident but became a national news story. we wanted to see what was happening. that is why we sent a correspondent and that is why he's been following the caravan. >> tucker: interesting. during the course of your coverage, did your correspondent ever asked people in the caravan the obvious question? if you are playing honduras because you're afraid to live there, and you are searching for asylum, you're in mexico, which is a pretty safe country, i would assume, why wouldn't you ask for asylum in mexico? >> you are a very intelligent man, tucker. i just heard you say that mexico is a safe country, now that i'm hearing you repeat that, it's concerning. mexico had the most violent here and dedicate it two17, more than 26,000 murders. i wouldn't call that a safe

country. they are fleeing violence. >> tucker: thank you for agreeing with me. i've been making that point for the last year. if it is such a dangerous country, filled with so many violent people, why would we let any of them into our country? we have millions of mexican citizensan living in america rit now. you are right up against tha a country that is totally out of control, people are shooting thi numbers in the countries you describe, why wouldn't you be terrified to let them in? >> you are not getting the criminals. you are getting the best of mexico. willing to work to work with three shifts a day. >> tucker: oh, how do you know that? >> the people who are fleeing that violence, that is what you are getting, not rapists and criminals. >> tucker: we don't know that, because -- >> you've seen the data. they are less prone to commit -- >> tucker: there is no data because we don't allow, thanks to advocacy for people like you, the question of citizenship to besu asked on the census forms. we don't all the identities of

the more than 10 million people here illegally because they aree using fake documents. we don't know t anything about them, as you know. there is no national survey of illegals. why shouldn't we be worried? >> you shouldn't be worried because statistics say, it is very clear that immigrants are less likely to commit crimes that are native born citizens.g that is a fact. the overwhelming majority, i don't know why we have to debate this, it's a fact. the overwhelming majority of immigrants are law-abiding people. >> tucker: we are not debating that. i've never disagreed with w tha. i think immigrants are great actually. i like immigrants. mexican immigrants from a hunter and. immigrants, all immigrants. i think if you have an incredibly violent, one of the most violent countries in the world, a poor country with remarkably low education levels, and you decide that we are going to let in every poor person from this undeveloped, violent, badly

educated country, into our country, it is hard to see why you would do that and expect that youpr will profit from it d we haven't. >> mexico is one of the ten largest economies in the world. it's not a poor or underdeveloped country. >> tucker: then why are people leaving? you are saying it's violent and poor. but it's not violent and poor, it's great? >> tucker, i wasn't -- we had over 26,000 murders last year. it's not poor. it's one of the ten largest economies in the world. people aren't coming over here o because behind that 700-mile wall that's already bold, there's a big sign that says "help wanted," entire industries depend on the cheap labor. as long as it does you know supply and demand, as long as there is demand, people will come to this country. >> tucker: tyson's chicken is not in charge of america. we have a government, citizens elect legislators to pass laws that we've done that. they get to decide. big employers don't make our

policies. c american citizens do. one of the things that is different between the u.s. and mexico. their laws our laws say that thd not be here. you are arguing that our opinions don't mean anything.ha you you can see why we resent that. >> i would not argue that laws are not necessary or rule of law is not a fundamental part of our democracy, of course it is. i wouldn't argue that mexico is democracy. they will have an election in two months. that is part of being a democracy. what i would say is that we have to, in order to move forward with a real comprehensive solution, we have to tell the truth to the american people. eweek, unprotected border is not the reason why they are coming to the u.s. the reason they are coming to the u.s. is because help is wanted. economy depends on these jobs. many industries, the d construction industry -- >> tucker: no,d that's not true. what you are saying is, the will of big companies is more important than the will of

american citizens who would like to control who comes here. they don't think it should be up to employers, chicken plans, who comes here, walmart, they think they should have a say, and they've passed laws that say they don't wanted to play >> i am behind you on that. i think we should go to the will of the american people. the vast amount are in favor of comprehensive immigration reform. they are t in favor of not buildingor a wall. muscles into the majority -- >> tucker: you guys are slick at univision. we have laws in force that say no one can come here without authorization from these federal government, period. we have 15 million, pick a number, illegally, and you think that's cool, and you say you are for the rule of law. [laughs] >> it might surprise you, undocumented immigration is not a desirable outcome for any of the parties involved. they don't want to leave their homes, their families, the

places they were born. i'm sure a lot of the people are asking, why do we have to take the men? the reality is we agree that undocumented immigration is not a desirable outcome. how we fix that is why we are not in the same page. >> tucker: enrique, great to see you. >> thank you. >> tucker: "the new york times" reporter assigned to hillary clinton has a new book out with a portrait of the clintons that she developed over ten years of covering them. she joins us next. stay tuned. ♪ it took a whole lot more. that's why i switched to the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy. everything. and that 2% cash back adds up to thousands of dollars each year... so i can keep growing my business in big leaps! what's in your wallet?

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>> tucker: "new york times" reporter amy spent more time covering hillary clinton than >> tucker: "new york times" reporter amy cho has spent more time covering hillary clinton than any living person. there two presidential campaigns in a decade, a new book out called "chasing hillary." he describes a lot about hillary, her profane tirades against trump, she also concedes that she was charmed by hillary a lot of the time.

amy cho joins us tonight. you've taken some grief for this book from the right that says, you can seat in thet book that you had affinity for hillary, i just want to say, i like the fact that you were honest about it, unlike a lot of reporters who you have to guess. i think you are directed. given that, the hillary people are always sniping about you and complaining about you like you are the problem. why? it seems to say a lot about them. >> exactly. apparently this is the bookk tht the clintons don't want you to read. as you point out, it is partly sympathetic to her. i anticipated the blowback. part of what i get into in the book, is that there is no gray area. you are either completely devoted to her or you are an enemy. a lot of the times come why coverage was in between. sometimes they wrote some -- i was the weaker partner covering the campaign day in and day out. there wasn't a lot of gray area. you were either the enemy or completely devoted to.

>> tucker: how out of it you have to be -- i know the clinton people feel this way -- to think of "the new york times" is too right-wing to cover hillary clinton? may have said that to me. i know they feel that way. what planet are they on? because they are on planet hillary, which i wrote about extensively. one of the things on the book, i think your viewers will find surprising, this decade-long battle between "the new york times" and the clinton camp. it was something i was naive about when i was put on the beach in. i hadn't anticipated that her aides would essentially blame me for the whitewater scandal, which happened when i was 12. "the new york times" broke that. there is all that's bad blood that has been passed on between the clintons and "the new york times" from generation to generation, of which i was a recipient, on her 2016 campaign. i think it will did surprise a lot of people that the animosity. >> tucker: chelsea is mad a few and criticizing on twitter? >> yes.

chelsea sent about 30 tweets in the pastt few days criticizing some of my reporting. >> tucker:. let me ask you a question. you said in the book, i think i knew this, the overwhelming majority of beat reporters covering hillary it was women.wo hillary was running a campaign based on the fact that she was a woman. if orrin hatch was running for president and 15 out of 17 reporters covering him with faithful mormons, he would say, maybe that's not -- that's stacking the deck. do you see a problem with that arrangement? >> that's interesting because one of the things in the book that i point out is hillary like to the guys. your very own ed henry would grilled her about her email sent she kind of liked the banter with him and she was sorta flirty flirting with the guys. i don't think there was a particulart love of fast because women were covering her. if anything, i think there was the perception that women might be tougher on her to prove that counter to your point, to prove that we weren't.

we want to she the first self-described feminist you've met that it is harder on women than men? >> i can't answer that question. >> tucker: [laughs] i think we both know. thank you for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: in the state of utah, college students can retreat to what they are calling the cry closet, to weep during finals because college is really hard. does america need more cry closets? liberal dominic kathy rew makes the case for cry closets. next. combined estimate. lease the 2018 nx 300 and nx 300 all wheel drive for these terms. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.

♪ ♪ ♪ college students tend to get stressed out by finals but if you attend the university of you talk, you have an option, called the cry close.

it's a creation of an art student and an exists to distressed out students for kids to cry. it includes fuzzy stuffed animals for maximum coping. is it time to go national withep this? weeping wardrobes erected across this fragile country. only one woman can make the case for this. cathy areu, our liberal sure bro. great to see you tonight. >> good to see you. >> tucker: at first glance, it seems confusing. college is the least stressful place there is. >> least stressful? >> tucker: you go to class for twoo hours a week and get drunk theim rest of the time. >> come on. it's very stressful. they are learning, they are the future, these are our citizens of tomorrow. they are learningch as much as they can, they are stressed as can be, so they need such psychologicall help.

they need this bioenergetic way to get out their stress. they need 10 minutes of a good cry and a cry closet to then be prepared to take those exams. >> tucker: we don't have time for you to define bioenergetic. we'll let that pass. does this suggest something may be about the fragility of their mental health? if you are so stressed about taking some dumb test at some dumb school, doesn't that mean you are on the o edge of a breakdown? >> don't we all need a good old-fashioned cry? this is an old-fashioned remedy, to modern-day problems. it's just about crying, 10 minutes of crying. everyone needs a stress ball. many people own stress balls. this is just an interpretation of a giant stress ball. >> tucker: let's say we had a war. i don't know, pick a country, china.ll they challenged rats in some way where we had to mobilize a large number of americans to defend the homeland. but everyone's crying.

would anybody be left to fight the war? can you really defend a country if you are encouraging kids to cry about final exams? >> this is about to psychological health. if everyone takes a moment decide to just center themselves, ground themselves, have a cry, maybe for two, 3 minutes, and then fight that war, i'm the war would be won. >> tucker: could you take a break between battles to cry? >> i think the break would have to be done before the battle. they would w re t be in the right mind-set before that battle, that battle.n i think that is what the whole closet is about. the cry closet about getting that great state of. mind. >> tucker: would you want to use a closet others have cried and? >> [laughs] i don't think i would have a problem with that. it sounds very cozy. google has done it in silicon valley. so money companies have created two very comfortable corporate settings where people can let off steam. >> tucker: if a cry closet is called for, how about a petting

zoo? a bunny stroking station? is that too far? >> you know, if people are comfortable and work better after being centered and calm her, then why not? bring the bunnies and, yes. >> tucker: let me ask you a macro point. i don't want to shock you. i thought the whole idea was for get people come out of the closet, but here you are looking and saying, go back into the closet? to you as a progressive feel good about that? >> go in for 10 minutes and get that cry so he would come out and feel comfortably. you might want to go into the cry closet before a show and have a great show afterwards. >> tucker: i know this is television, but let's try to push -- >> i'm always honest. >> tucker: if you knew a man, and you found him attractive, and he said, i got to take a quick break and go cry in a closet while squeezing a stuffed animal, that would wreck the deal, wouldn't it? >> i think he would say, i will

go to center myself so i can be a stronger, better person for you. yeah, i would love that person. i think that's great, i think that's healthy. who doesn't want to be -- >> tucker: part of you would look on contemptuously and say you weepy little freak, stop cry? >> i would say what a strong person who understands themselves, or whatever pronoun that person chooses to call themselves. >> tucker: i don't believe you for a second! i think you would want to think that as a good progressive, i think you would think this is wholesome, consistent with my ideology but on a gut level, you would say, stop whimpering. >> every place has a cry closet, a safe place, cry closets can be the bathroom at many companies. everyone needs a good cry closets. it's an old-fashioned way of letting out stress and relieving tension. >> tucker: i will leave it there. cathy areu, the liberal sherpa. great to see you. >> good to see you.

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night, 8:00 p.m., to the show that is a sworn enemy of wine, pomposity, and groupthink. sean hannity is next was judge jeanine is sitting in. have a great night. ♪ >> judge jeanine: welcome to the special edition of "hannity," trump, the disruptor in chief. i'm jeanine pirro in tonight for sean. for the hour, we will highlight how president trump is challenging the status quo, calling out the abusively biased breath, breaking down diplomatic walls, and dismantling the deep state, brick by brick. breaking tonight, the house intel committee just released the full-length report on its russia investigation, and guess what, the committee found absolutely no evidence of trump-russia