>> martha: so i'm leaving in the morning on a jet plane on my way to west virginia. bret baier and i will be hosting the debate and i think it'll be interesting. i will see you then. now altitude tucker in d.c. now altitude tucker in d.c. >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the white house correspondents dinner was held over this weekend for the second year in a row, the president didn't go. the second year in a row, you are glad you didn't go either. we've got ed henry, former president of the white house correspondent associate in an mark steyn to discuss what happened and what it means. but first, over the past month, a caravan of central american migrants has gradually made it up to honduras to mexico all the way to tijuana, opposite san diego. at one point make skin authorities claim they broke up and american media dutifully reported they did. they didn't.

that was a p.r. gesture and a temporary one. in fact, during part of the trip, mexican police escorted the migrants northward. in other words, the mexican migrants abetted illegal immigration into this country as it's done for many years. tonight, the caravan is on our southern border. rather than wait for the crossing station to open, many of them jumped the fence. some waved honduran flags when they got to the top. that tells you everything. when you arrive in a country to contribute to it and assimilate into its culture, don't wave the flag of a foreign nation. that's when you do in triumph when you invade a country. according to border control, at least one member of the caravan has a ready admitted to being a member of ms-13. all of that should worry us. there's only a few hundred people in this caravan, but there are billions more around the world who lived amid violence and poverty in virtually every single one of them would like to relocate to san diego. the left argues we have no moral right to stop any of them from doing that.

here is turning to a nickel ramus of tijuana dancing the u.s. government as criminal for trying to enforce our own federal law. watch. >> the method for border protection, stop rejecting asylum-seekers who try to present themselves as a port of entry. you know what you are doing. you know you turn people away. you complain they are breaking the law by entering illegally. you are breaking the law and you are forcing them to break the law. that is why we have caravans. >> tucker: something you deftly want someone to control, screaming in a bullhorn. this is not immigration. immigration happens with the consent of the host country. this is happening by force without our consent. a government that cares about its own citizens wouldn't allow it to happen. bad things happen when you leave your home and everybody knows that. the left is demanding we leave our door open. illegal immigrants are amazing people. they say far better than you

are, mr. entitled american. that's the conversation with henrique azevedo of univision and he made that point. if you are right up against a country totally out of control as people are shooting each other in the numbers you just described, why wouldn't you be terrified to let them in? >> i think you are not getting the criminals. you are getting the best of mexico, the people who are willing to work 2-3 shifts a day, the people who are law-abiding citizens -- b1 how do we know that? >> the people who are fleeing the violence, that's what you are getting. not rapists. >> martha: we don't know that, of course. >> we do! >> martha: we don't! jorge >> tucker: has not been forced to register as a foreign agent. he also wrote the book, "stranger," the challenge of being latino in the trunk era. jorge, thank you for joining us. the first first and the most it

question is why should we let these asylum-seekers, these migrants into the country? >> i think the united states is being high hostile and even aggressive country against refugees and immigrants. we have a long history of being accepting of immigrants from countries where they are fleeing violence and poverty and lack of democracy. i think that's precisely what the united states is. at the end, tucker, i think it's a matter of deciding what kind of country do we want to be. it seems at this point that we are talking about a few hundred refugees and putting it in context from the 65 million refugees that are around the world. the united states except and only 84,000 in 2016 and this is going to be even less. it's a matter of deciding what kind of country do we want to be. >> tucker: we've accepted about 13 million refugees, economic refugees in our country now illegally. but backup for one second.

you said this is a hostile, dangerous place for refugees? why would you want them to come here if united states is so dangerous? >> that is much, much better than if you are a father in san pedro sula and you have a sudden, the son wants to be recruited by the gangs. or if they want to threaten your only daughter, they want to rape her, what do you want to do? may be the only option is to come to the united states -- b1 it's not the >> tucker: i'm not the citizen of any other country. i plan to stay. you don't need to convince me why people want to come. i understand why they would. but in order to get here, they passed through mexico, which is by many measures a rich country. the 15th largest economy in the world. there are 30 mexican -- it's got a bigger economy than saudi arabia. they are people sleeping in the sleep in tijuana. why doesn't he make skin government help them? >> first of them, they do not want to stay in mexico. they want to come to the

united states feared second of all, if you are fleeing violence, if you are fleeing gangs from honduras and el salvador, why would you want to go to mexico when in the last five years more than 100,000 people were killed by drug violence? would you stay in mexico? of course not. >> tucker: no! i actually probably want to fly business class to zurich and fly to the alps. i don't get to because it's not my country. >> so you want to close the united states? that's what you want to do? >> tucker: yes. i want to revert to what we were number which is a country of laws where people can come here but they do so legally. we have over a million people come here every year legally. they fill out the paperwork, they get in line from around the world. i don't know why that system doesn't work. >> then they want to come here illegally. they want to come here legally through the way in tijuana, for turquoise days, they have not been allowed to talk to an agent. >> tucker: they are trying to be here legally.

they are trying to come here and claim asylum which in effect means a court date will be set and the overwhelming majority will not show up for court and they will blend in with the other 13 million -- >> i mean, that's not true. they are fleeing violence, they are fleeing gangs -- b1 how do you know that? what do you >> tucker: how do you know that? >> we know who they are. >> tucker: who they are? >> we've been following them for 25 days. we know who they are. that's why we know they are not criminals and terrorists and they are not rapists. that's why we know who they are. >> tucker: did you talk to the one who was a member of ms-13 who was caught last week who admitted he was a member of ms-13? what did he say when you talked to him? >> i haven't talked to him -- b1 oh, you didn't talk to him >> tucker: oh, you didn't talk to him. >> you can't do that. that's not right. >> tucker: back to this, lecturing me what kind of

country for americans -- let me ask you this. one of them said he was from ms-13. that was his description of his own affiliation. you are saying that i'm criminalizing him by repeating what he said about himself. so maybe what you are really engaging is propaganda, not fact-finding. >> no. what i'm saying if you want to criminalize the whole caravan, which is not comprised of bad hombres. if you want to criminalize the hundreds of them -- >> tucker: there is an invasion. 30 million people here illegally? that's an invasion. if 13 million people didn't leave and other people from countries like you who called them anyone that wanted to make them legal erasers, you call it what it is. an invasion. >> they are fleeing. we have to listen to them. >> tucker: why do we have to listen to them? >> that submission we've we've had to accept and protect those who are vulnerable.

>> tucker: why doesn't mexico -- hold on, mexico with an economy larger than saudi arabia -- why is it america's unique obligation to take in -- there are 1.2 billion people in africa. all of them have lower standards of living than americans, many of them living in violent places. do they all have a right to come here. it's a real question. do they? >> could it be because we are the most powerful and richest country in the world? >> tucker: we are at the richest most powerful. >> that's why they are leaving? >> tucker: circle 1955. that would be china which does not believe in diversity or immigration. >> because we are also responsible for that. they are fleeing violence, right? why do you think they are fleeing? we start wars in central america and mexico just because it's a tv project? no. it happened because there are more than 25 million americans who use illegal drugs and we are also responsible! >> tucker: we are going to blame the junkies!

>> no, not the junkies. >> tucker: mexico is the largest manufacturer of crystal meth. we use to make it our self even they make it. they kill tens of thousands americans every year and those families -- >> 25 million -- we are also against that violence and responsible. >> tucker: we are responsible for heroin addiction, somebody taking heroin, he's responsible, the junkie living on the street is responsible for these people being here, is that what you're saying? >> no. what i'm saying is when you have 25 million u.s. citizens who use illegal drugs, it has consequences in the whole hemisphere. the drugs are coming from -- b1 does mexico have a responsibility in this >> tucker: does mexico have a responsibility in this? >> the violence happening, partly responsible for the consumers in this country. >> tucker: i understand. 60,000 people die of drug o.d. last year. most of those drugs came from mexico. but it's our fault. not only do we have to drop our

borders, ignore our own laws, take a poor person who wants to come here but we have to do it because we are immoral? we are dying of drug abuse? that's your argument, really? >> so you think the united states and the u.s. consumers have no responsibility for the drug wars in mexico and colombia, in peru, central america? they are completely length. absolutely. they are completely linked. guess what, not only that. how about the guns in the rifles being used by drug makers? >> tucker: it's funny. typically when you're trying to get someone to do something nice for you, like taking all your poor people -- >> it's your responsibility. we in the united states, we've had of responsibility for the things happening -- >> tucker: you are the mexican citizen! i find it amazing that you can deny compassion -- >> i am also a u.s. citizen. >> tucker: you voted in the mexican election. >> i voted in the mexican election and i voted in the u.s. election. i know it's confusing for you, but that's what happens. there are millions of people around the world with dual citizenship. i'm just one of them. >> tucker: i'm opposed to it.

i can say that. it's just funny how we have a moral obligation to subsidize the rest. >> we are the richest and most powerful country in the world and many people want to come here and we are an example of democracy and generosity. that is the idea of americans. >> tucker: talk about blaming the victim. jorge, great to see you. >> thank you. >> tucker: mark corian is the -- he just returned from a trip to the border. he joins us now. you were just there. would you say the border is secure? >> nope. it's not. the border patrol agents we talked to, the ranchers, others, none of them said it was secure either. this is the southern tip of texas which is ground zero now for immigration. it used to be arizona. before that, it was san diego. now in south texas. the border patrol told me that south texas, they don't have a single permanent camera tower. these are these towers where there are cameras on top. they have a few of them on trailers or something.

they do not have a single permanent infrastructure of the camera structures. they need roads. parallel to the border so they do not have to go out and around to chase people. they need all kinds of stuff. this is the most important impacted area of the border. >> tucker: let me ask. there is a picture of the screen. you took the shot. it shows chicken wire fence. right there. >> that is a smuggling trail under the fence. >> tucker: is that the border right there? >> no, that's not the border. that's 70 miles in from the border believe it or not up around the checkpoint that the border control has so the smugglers let people off before the checkpoint. they go around the, they pick them up on the other side of the checkpoint. >> tucker: what kind of affects wooded border wall having as part of texas? >> there is already fencing comparable to a border wall. it's hard to do it there. the river snakes around and around. where do you put it. wherever you put it, there are americans on the other side of the wall. this isn't like arizona. it's much more difficult. it would help in certain areas,

no question about it. it's not a silver bullet down there. >> tucker: is it enforceable the border? >> sure. perfectly? and we seal it off perfectly? no. but it certainly enforceable. close to half of border control agents are doing on patrol things that we should be having clerks for other people do. that's something the national guard helps with, actually. they don't go out and arrest people, they help border patrol so the guys with the badges on the guns can go help arrest people better. we can control that much better than we do now. one of the key things we also need? more detentions phase. when we arrest somebody from central america, we cannot dump them back across the border. the mexicans, possibly enough, say it's your problem. we are not taking them back. you need a hold on them somehow. until you get them back, congress turned down the administrations of basra's request for extra detention money. they have to turn down the catch and release. they give them a letter commercial for your here gratian stomach immigration >> tucker:

thankfully paul ryan did bond border security prospects aroune world. i'm sure they are grateful. mark, thank you. appreciate it. white house correspondents dinner was held saturday night. comedian michelle wolf delivered a monologue that many in the crowd, thought it was important taste. >> i actually really like sarah. i think she's really so resourceful. she burns facts and sheaves of that asked to create a perfect smoky eye. may be she's born with it. maybe it's lives. probably live. i'm not sure what to call several -- what is uncle tom but for white women who disappoint other white women? i know. and aunt end.

>> tucker: ed henry was among many other things including our friend, president of the white house correspondents association. he's in a position of running this dinner, firing the entertainment, et cetera. he went on saturday. what was your response? >> i was appalled. among other things, we invited sarah sanders to be our guest for dinner. essentially in our home. she was insulted by this comedian. it went further than that. it was very personal. see seem to she seemed to be taking it very emotionally in terms of these attacks. struggling to keep her composur composure. sarah sanders was consoled by a bunch of correspondence afterwards because it was so negative and so nasty. it went beyond that. there were jokes about abortion. i kid you not. there was a joke along the lines of don't knock it till you try it. i saw people sort of gas at that. and then when this comedian said, yeah, knock it out, i mean, the baby, knock it out.

people literally had never heard anything like this at one of these dinners. i get there are bigger issues in the country, but given the fact that all the attention on this dinner, we should issue a simple apology that says they should not have happened. to sarah sanders, the white house press victory. i've been getting a lot of feedback from people around the country who are anti-trump saying why you're holding a comedian to a higher standard than the president? to which i said, i'm actually not. i agree the president should be held to a higher standard. he said some very outrageous and controversial things. there should be a higher standard, which is why we have elections. he won the election. if you disagree with him, vote him out. take him on. >> tucker: here is what the white house correspondents association can control comedian who speaks. >> it's not a national election. the president of the association pick that and pick somebody who is basically part the resistance. and probably, we should have figured out that this kind of thing was going to happen because this comedian wanted to make her name.

here we are talking about it. >> tucker: you ran the association when obama was president. >> yeah. >> tucker: what would happen to you personally if a comedian had attacked obama? >> i thought about this for many long hours and i called conan o'brien because i think is very talented but also because i knew he had to face his audience on monday. i remember when michael jordan said years ago that he wouldn't endorse a democrat in a big senate race against jesse helms because he said republicans buy sneakers too? conan o'brien may lean left, but he knows that republicans buy sneakers too and republicans watch late-night tv. before the kamals of the world in this anti-trump business, someone like conan o'brien had a face his audience monday night and be fair, take on the president but the fair. i thought if i pick somebody who got up there and get did some of these kind of jokes we saw saturday night and ripped president obama in a very personal, negative way, fox and the white house correspondents association would've paid a heavy price. >> tucker: the civil rights division of the justice department would open a investigation -- ed, thank you for that perspective.

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that happened. this marks the one-year anniversary of kathy griffin, the single most unhappy person in america posing with the separate head of donald trump. today, she went on "the view," of course, and revoked her apology, assuming that's possible for that, and took additional shots. here's part of what she said. >> i can't believe it's been a year. >> i know. >> a year this month since that picture was released. >> right. what a year it's been. by the way, i take the apology back. to don jr. and eric, as i call them, eddie munster and date rape. >> tucker: she's a lot of fun. mark steyn joins us tonight. you have this remarkable ability to stand back and see the big picture here. what are we seeing in these two appearances? >> i think actually we are looking at the death of comedy. to go to that abortion joke,

first of all, actually ed henry in so far as it is a joke, and actually told it better than the so-called comedienne did. it relies on a sort of word inversion. don't try it till you knock it. but if you do, try it and knock it out. is that a joke that a professional joke writer should write? i mean, what's fascinating to me is that it's offensive -- i quite like a lot of shock, edgy, so-called dangerous comedy. but this stuff is offensive without actually being funny. if you look at what she was doing on saturday night, kellyanne conway is a liar and then sarah huckabee sanders is also a liar. and if she had time for so-called jokes about mattis, sessions, pompeo, they would all be liars too. what's sad is this is such

defanged comedy. you are talking about the caravan a couple of minutes ago. i would've loved to have jokes about the caravans, jokes about north korea, jokes about president macron, this is a smart sophisticated washington crowd and black tie and they are listening to this woman using the f word and talking about how her private parts require a lot more yarn than those pink hats on the trump parade. this is sophisticated wit for the smartest people in washington. this is the death of comedy because there is nothing the left can make honest jokes about except to mock republicans as liars or uptight christian fundamentalists hung up on abortion. >> tucker: it was funny in the same way that the new york op-ed is funny. if i funny, you mean within the very narrow boundaries of what's

acceptable. you can't be funny if you can't say things. >> "the new york times" op-ed page is a very good example. before pieces on that, there would be three dull, turgid pieces about the bosnian war or whatever was going on at the time. in the corner, there would be 20 little twee little ninny making jokes about bar code scan scan-you ares. if this is the most magical night of the year in political comedy, it requires you to make savage political comedy, not about sarah huckabee sanders makeup. but about serious things like north korea and iran and the rest of it. i mean, what's so absurd about this stupid, hideous, dedication is that you book people

who can't do anything but say the f word -- it's a semi-state occasion that the president is somehow rejecting centuries of e doesn't show up for. what do you think. is it a night of serious, sharp political comedy or its dull, turgid people mouthing off? >> tucker: you are right. totally willing to slay a sacred cow. if you are brave, i don't know if you're make a joke about some thing that will offend people you live near. that will never happen. >> absolutely. >> tucker: mark steyn, thank you. thank nice to see you. a lovely week on on msnbc. a guest explained that if mike pence were ever to become president, he would start sending people to concentration camps start sending gay people to concentration camps. we'll get get a response of up.

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she sort of apologized for some of it. i take ownership, she said, then took no ownership at all. she invited a guy on call to brandon wolf. the point of brandon wolf on joy reid's show was to make everything okay. and wolf did this by explaining, okay, maybe those comments were offensive. but they are nothing compared to mike pence. if mike pence ever became president, he would put gay people in concentration camps. watch this. >> we have homophobic psychopaths running the united states government today. that is the reality. we have a secretary of state mention that believes that gay people are sinners based on who they are. if mike pence god bless him ended up in the white house sitting behind the desk in the oval office, he would have us all in concentration camps hoping to pray away the gay. so kevin moore lives in brooklyn. he spent years writing for out

and the advocate. you know longer does. instead, he joins us tonight. you have been in world journalism, world politics a lot for a long, long time. you watch something like this over the weekend and your reaction is, what? >> it's become a point of a depraved fantasy on their part. they actually believe this could happen, that mike pence wants to do this. he sort of is using the exact same script as that the dazzled figure skater during the olympics, adam rippon or what have you, going after vice president pence because they are really searching for homophobic monsters in the administration and the best thing they can come up with is mike pence who has to suffer -- i feel very bad for mike pence. he handles these attacks with such grace and a tour of the amount i think there isn't anything homophobic about mike pence or they don't even know why they hate him. they don't even know what these pray the gay away camps were about, it was a complete fantasy.

he never -- it was almost something 20 years old -- he supported therapy for people who wanted to change their behavior. it had nothing to do with gay people specifically. but they latched onto this and mike pence has become their go to scary bogeyman. >> tucker: but did he call for concentration camps? did i miss it? vehicle not that i'm aware of i believe it's all made up. you know, unfortunately, they didn't want to believe captain electroshock therapy and that one isn't true, unfortunately. they can't come to terms with the fact that people don't care about homosexuality in this country anymore. it's very rich also coming from brandon wolf who was a pulse nightclub survivor, right? holes nightclub was not attacked by the radical amish for the person who attacked pulse nightclub did not attend his

allegiance to the episcopalian caliphate. there are groups of people in this world that wants to harm gay people and its not christians. >> tucker: who is it! tell me, now i'm intrigued! >> i think it's this political movement called islam a fascism. i think that's what it might be. all marmot omar mateen may have been a muslim. let's ask brandon what he think about that. if there were a group of heavily harmed >> tucker: why wouldn't brandon wolf be doing that? >> it's almost as if it doesn't fit within the left as narratives so you to be lockstep. it's very rich -- be one on whose behalf is he working on? >> i wouldn't know. i think he's working on behalf of msnbc and the democratic party. >> tucker: all! >> i'm not sure it has much to do with gay people. >> tucker: it's not a's civil rights activist, is a political hack >> he might be onto something here. it's shocking. incredibly shocking. >> tucker: [cackling]

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about. he has not been assigned to a team since 2016 when he began kneeling during the national anthem and started a league wide trend. "the new york times" got a hold of the reporting of nfl owners and players talking about the kneeling prices last year. the composition had a lot to talk about damage control. none at all about the core issue. dave portnoy is known to millions as "el presidente," that's the president of a country. but instead of a mind-set, he is founder of barstool sports." so colin kaepernick has not been re-signed. do you think in a other meritocracy, he would be playing or no? >> yeah. he would, totally. i think he's good enough to pla play. if i was an owner, i wouldn't sign them personally. not because i care whether he kneels or doesn't, but if you are an owner, why would you want this headache? that's how they look at it. it's just going to bring controversy. it is a good enough to play?

absolutely. but the owners -- the owners want no headache, so i take the headache? >> tucker: you saw the piece on the three hour meeting with the owners they had with the selected players. in my reading of it, the owners sound like they were living in a different country. they didn't seem to fully understand the forces at work here. is that a fair to? do they know what's going on? >> i don't think they totally know what's going on, but it goes to the other point. to a degree, i think they do. they just know there's a controversy around it. the owners are very conservativ conservative. i think the ideal world for an owner is another owner signing him. that's honestly what they would like, but the other owner is not going to be the guide to does it. hey, why don't you bite the bullet? what's good for the nfl, i think overall, nobody wants them to be in their backyard. >> tucker: right. these are not necessarily moral leaders. they are businessmen who want the franchise to continue throwing out huge amount of cash. >> i don't think the owners care

about anything but making money. any insight which they care about the moral issues or whether it's right, wrong, how people feel, they do not. they absolutely care about the bottom line, the money. that is the clearest thing the nfl has ever done. with this, you see it with every issue with everything that comes up in the hypocrisy of every decision they make, it's all based on money. roger godell is wondering how it affects the bottom line. >> tucker: yeah. i have noticed. so i wanted to get your take on this since you run "barstool" which i think has some of the most sensible people in america reading it. as a reality check, there is a student at the university of utah creating something called the cry in closet. the idea is that college is so stressful that kids need a place to go to weep in private. this is a apparently flourishing on that college campus. do you think your readers would

use a crying closet if they had a chance to use? >> i do not. unfortunately, this story is the least surprising story of all time. college kids are babies. that is well known. we should say it's a minority. i bet most normal people thinking people, what is going on here, these stories get sensationalized. you get rewarded for it. it's the everyone gets a trophy generation, basically. >> tucker: but i mean... do you think we are being told constantly that there is nothing wrong with an adult, man, crying in public? you should be proud to express your emotions? a lot of people feel like, well, actually there is something embarrassing about weeping over exams or something in public. do you think we should be embarrassed? >> yeah? there are certain reasons to cry. if there is a death the family, i will not make fun, but if you are crying over an exam or crime because you stub your toe on

something little, i think that's embarrassing. it's the same someone falls in public, you scramble up. i do think there is something embarrassing to it. i do. >> let me ask you one last question. a country that encourages college students to cry in crying closets is not a country that's going to produce a lot of competitive nhl players. do you think may be one of the reasons so many people in the nhl are from canada, eastern europe, is that we are not tough enough to play the game? >> that is widely -- no, i just think they are awesome. i think it's the national sport in canada. if you want a leap in logic, the thing we run into is the, you know, the minority, the vocal minority makes a lot of noise. like the facebook thing that just happen, so many people, such a big story, the earnings came out, most normal people don't care. there is such an outcry for things from, again, the vocal minority thinking the chronicle of it, most people are not using

that. it's just people use it like social media, you hear about it. guys like me and you make fun of it. and we should throw the people crying and lock the door, leave them in the closet. proverbial sticking your kid in the locker and middle school, pt them in there, let them cry. they will let them out. >> tucker: that's why i like having you on! you are a well needed rate of reality into the dark insanity of my world. dave, thank you for coming on. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: jim comey said the investigation into russia was to political and the rest of us should ignore it. we will talk to the chairman of that committee right after the break. this clever little app called audible. you can listen to the stories you love while doing the things you love, outside.

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>> tucker: fired fbi director jim comey still selling his book. he was on "meet the press" over the weekend. on the show, he said he was not impressed with the house's russia investigation because their work is to political, he said. watch. >> the most important piece of work is the one that the special counsel is doing now. this strikes me as a pellicle the as a political document. >> that the house serve a good investigative purpose? >> not that i can see. >> just totally got to politicize? >> it wrecked the committee and wrecked relationships with the speed 24 court, other communities. >> tucker: what an oily, false character he is. this political document would contrast with the work of the special counsel investigation that originally employed peter strzok and david page. he joins us tonight from

california. what exactly if we can work our way through the cans here, what is the core charge against this report? you said the president did not conclude with russia to the best of your knowledge. the counterargument is what? >> well, it's hard to keep a straight face through that interview. first of all, it's softball after softball. it's not a real interview. but most importantly, mr. comey probably never read our report. likely because the department of justice and the fbi redacted so much of it that if you go online and try to read our report, you will see that much of it you can't even read. >> tucker: i know this. >> he doesn't even know what we have. we've been trying to get the department of justice and intelligence agencies to unredacted all of ours so the american people can see the work product that we created. i think the most alarming thing is that mr. comey continues to say that he did not tell us things that clearly he said on the record to us like the fact

that mr. flynn, the agents interview that mr. flynn did not believe he lied and we want american people to see mr. comey's statement. we cannot get to them until our report is allowed to be out for the american public to see. and they unredacted it all. >> tucker: you are in charge of oversight in the internal world. what did you make of the statement that former cia director brennan made on friday where he appeared to threaten the president over the mueller investigation and basically wait until you see what mueller has on trump. how would the former cia director have advanced knowledge of that? how would he know anything more than i know as a private citizen? what is that? >> if that's the case, we'll have another problem because they been hiding additional information from us. we interviewed all the people involved in the spirits of the five we've interviewed, we found no evidence whatsoever of any collusion between the trump campaign and the russians.

as i said multiple times before, we did find very clear links between the russians and the democratic party. so the people that essentially say that trump has done this and accuse some of us of being conspiracy theorist, they are the ones. we refuse to believe their conspiracy because we have no evidence of it and they deny the fact that they are the ones that paid to get information from the russians. i think mueller should be investigating them. >> tucker: really quickly, as an american, if you found evidence that the president of the united states and his campaign conclude with a hostile foreign power, would you cover it up? >> no. as a matter of fact, i've said that from the beginning. i said i will be the first one to go out there until the american public that we have clear links between the trump campaign and the russians. but, tucker, i will repeat again. we have clear links between the democratic party and with the hillary campaign, and the russians. nobody reports that. >> tucker: i haven't seen that on cnn. somebody will have to run it by

our fact-check-you ares. >> don't count on that. >> tucker: good to see you. >> always a pleasure. california tells us it is the future of america. that's true, then what does it mean that the state has drug addicts shooting heroin in a subway station? the video is disturbing. we will be right back. without heartburn? ♪ piano music

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aliens. why? because i don't care about their own people. and that is the whole problem right there. that's about it for us tonight. tune in every night at 8:00 to the show that is a sworn enemy of sworn enemy of lying, prosody, smugness, and group groupthink. guess who's next, ladies and gentlemen, sean hannity! >> sean: you even have mark steyn saying it. great job, sir. we have an incredible show tonight. that is all we can say, buckle up. this has been a truly historic day in america, and around the world. literally starting with shocking revelations out of israel. prime minister benjamin netanyahu just gave an unmitigated warning to the international community as it relates to iran, they are secretly advancing their nuclear program, and israel, the united states, all of our allies face extreme danger. the "washington free beacon" reporting tonight that even our own intel committee has confirmed this. coming up, we'll s