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asked the privacy of the staff be respected." most-watched, most trusted, most grateful you spent this evening with us. good evening from washington. i'm shannon bream. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the white house correspondents dinner was held over this weekend for the second year in a row, the president didn't go. the second year in a row, youhe are glad you didn't go either. you probably saw some of the tape. we've got ed henry, former president of the white house correspondent associate and mark steyn to discuss what happened and what it means. but first, over the past month, a caravan of central american migrants has gradually made it up to honduras to mexico all the way to tijuana, opposite san diego. at one point mexican authorities claim they broke up and american media dutifully reported they did. they didn't. that was a p.r. gesture and a temporary one. in fact, during part of the
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trip, mexican police escorted the migrants northward. in other words, the mexican government abetted illegal immigration into this country as it's done for many years. tonight, the caravan is on our southern border. rather than wait for the d crossing station to open, many of them jumped the fence. some waved honduran flags when they got to the top. that tells you everything.so when you arrive in a country to contribute to it and assimilatee into its culture, don't wave the flag of a foreign nation. that's when you do in triumph when you invade a country. according to border control, at least one member of the caravan has already admitted to being a member of r ms-13. all of that should worry us. there's only a few hundred people in this caravan, but there are billions more around the world who live amid violence and poverty and virtually every single one of them would like to relocate to san diego. the left argues we have no moral right to stop any of them from doing that.
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here is attorney nicole ramus of tijuana denouncing the u.s. government as criminal for trying to enforce our own federal law. watch. >> a message for border protection, stop rejecting asylum-seekers who try to present themselves at the port of entry. you know what you are doing. you know you turn people away. you complain they are breaking the law by entering illegally. you are breaking the law and you are forcing them to break the law. that is why we have caravans. >> tucker: something you deftly want someone to control, screaming in a bullhorn. this is not immigration. immigration happens with the consent of the host country. this is happening by forceim without our consent. h a government that cares about its own citizens wouldn't allow it to happen. bad things happen when you leave the door open and everybody knows that. the left is demanding we leave our door open. any attempt at self defense is immoral, they tell us, from the segregated immigrants, where they all live. illegal immigrants are amazing
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people, they say, far better than you are, mr. entitled american. that's the conversation with henrique azevedo of univision and he made that point. if you are right up against a country totally out of control as people are shooting each other in the numbers you just described, why wouldn't you be terrified to let them in? >> i think you are not getting the criminals. you are getting the best of mexico, the people who are willing to work 2-3 shifts a date, the people who are law-abiding citizens, to try to provide a better future for their family. >> tucker: but we don't know that of course because we have -- >> we do. >> tucker: actually we don't. >> tucker: he also works as an anchor at univision, which unlike rt, has not been forced to register as a foreign agent. he also wrote the book, "stranger," the challenge of a latino immigrant in a foreign era, and we spoke to him just a moment ago. thanks for joining us.
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the first and the most important question is why should we let these asylum-seekers, these migrants into the country? >> i think the united states is being hostile and even aggressive country against refugees and immigrants. we have a long history of being accepting of immigrants from countries where they are fleeing violence and poverty and lack of democracy. i think that's precisely what the united states is. at the end, tucker, i think it's a matter of deciding what kind of country do we want to be. it seems at this point that we are talking about a few hundred refugees and putting a it in context from the 65 million refugees that are around the world. it simply a matter of deciding what kind of country we want to be. >> tucker: we've excepted about 13 million economic refugees in our country illegally. back upup for one second.
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you said this is a hostile, dangerous place for refugees. why would you want them to come here if the united states is so dangerous? >> that is much, much better than if you are a father in san pedro sula and you have a son who wants to be recruited by the gangs or if they threaten your only daughter, they want to rape her, what will you do? the only option is to come -- >> tucker: well, i love this country, i was born here, a medicine citizen of any other country, and i plan to stay. you don't need to be to convince me why people want to come. i understand. but in order to get here, they pass through mexico, which is by many members of countries, 30 mexican billionaires. it's got a bigger economy than saudi arabia. they are people sleeping in the sleep in tijuana.n why doesn't the mexican
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government help them? >> first of all, they want to come to united states. second of all, violence, if you are fleeing gangs, why would you want to go to mexico when more than 100,000 people were killed by drug violence? would you stay in mexico? of course not. they want to come to the united states. >> tucker: i would probablybl want to fly business class to zurich and moved to the alps but i don't get to because it is not my country. >> you want to flee the united states? you want to close the united states united states? >> tucker: yeah, i want to revert to what we were which is a country of laws where people p can come here but they do so legally. we have over a million people come here illegally, they fill out the paperwork, they get in line from around the world. i don't know why that system doesn't p work. a million people a year a lot >> then they want to come herere illegally. they want to come hereal legally through the way in tijuana, for
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two days. >> tucker: no, they are coming here to try to claim asylum. in effect, it would be said, the overwhelming majority will not show up for court, and they will blend in with the other 13 million illegals already here. >> they are fleeing violence, they are fleeing gangs. >> tucker: how do you know that? what do you know about them? >> we have reporters talking to them. we know who they are. >> tucker: who are they? >> we have been following them for 25 days, that is why we know who they are, that is why we know they are not terrorists, that is why we know who they ar are. >> tucker: did you talk to the one who is the member of ms-13, who was caught last week, who admitted he was a member of ms-13? what did he say when you talked to him? >> i haven't talked to him. y if you want to criminalize the whole group -- >> tucker: he said he was a member. slow down. stop the words anomaly for two seconds. a mexican citizen lecturing me.
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let me ask you this. one of them said he was from ms-13. that was his description of his own affiliation. you are saying i'm criminalizing him by repeating him what he said about himself. maybe what you are really engaging in this propaganda, noa fact-finding. >> no, what i'm saying, if you want to criminalize the whole caravan, which is not composed by patho hombres, you don't want to criminalize hundreds of -- >> tucker: all, there is an invasion. i think that's an invasion.il of 13 million illegals showed up in mexico tomorrow and wouldn't leave, if people from other countries like you called anyone he wanted to o make them weave a racist, i think he would call it what it is, and invasion. >> they are fleeing for political asylum, we have to listen to them. >> tucker: why do we have to listen to them. >> because that is a long tradition that we've had, just to accept and protect those who are vulnerable, those who are
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being perks persecuted. >> tucker: why does an end in mexico, with an economy larger than saudi arabia -- why is is it america's unique obligation to take -- there are 1.2 million people in africa. all of them have lower standards of living than americans, many are living in violent places. do they all have a right to come here? it's a real question. >> could it be because we are the mostld powerful and the richest country in the world? >> tucker: we are not the richest or the most powerful. circa 1955. that would be china, which doesn't believe in diversity or immigration, just so you know. do they have any obligation? >> they are in our hemisphere. why do a you think they are fleeing? the drug wars in central america and mexico it's not a tv project. it is happening because there are more than 25 million americans who use illegal drugs and we are also responsible -- >> tucker: -- >> tucker: oh! so we will blame the junkies.
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mexico censored fentanyl, heroin, mexico is now the largest manufacturer of crystal meth. they kill tens of thousands of americans every year. so someone -- we are responsible for heroin addiction.ib someone who is taking heroin, he is responsible, the junkie living on the street is responsible for these people being here? is that what you are saying? >> no. when you have about 25 million u.s. citizens who use illegal drugs, it has consequences i and the whole hemisphere. drugs are coming from -- >> tucker: mexico -- >> the violence that is happening in those places is also partly responsible for the consumers. >> tucker: oh, i understand. 60,000 people die of drug ods last year, most of those drugs came from mexico but it's our fault. not only do we have to drop our borders, ignore our own laws,
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take any poor person around the world who wants to come here but we have to do it because we are moral? dying of drug abuse? >> so you think that the u.s. has absolutely no responsibility for the drug wars in mexico and colombia and central america? they are completely linked. absolutely. and guess what, not only that. how about the guns on the rifles being used by drug traffickers. where do you think they get them? >> >> tucker: typically, when yu are trying to get someone to do something nice for you -- speak of the united states has a responsibility for the things that are happening. >> tucker: what do you mean, we? you are a mexican citizen. i find it amazing that you can demand -- >> i am also a u.s. citizen. >> tucker: but you voted in the mexican election. >> i posted in the mexican election and the u.s. election. i know it's confusing for you but that is what happens. there are millions of people around the world with dual citizenship. i'm just one of them. >> tucker: yeah, i'm opposed
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that. but it's just funny how we have a moral obligation because we are bad people to subsidize the rest of the world. >> we are the richest and most powerful in the world and people want to come here and we are an example of democracy and generosity. >> tucker: talk about blaming the victim. itme was great to see you. thank you. executive director at the center for immigration studies who just returned from a trip to the border joins us now. mark, you were just there. would you say the border is secure? >> no, it's not. the border patrol agents we talked to and the rangers and others, none of them said it was particularly secure either. this is the southern tip of texas that we were out, ground zero now for immigration. it used to be arizona. before that it was san diego. those places are better controlled. now it is south texas. the border patrol told me in south texas, they don't have a single permanent camera tower. theseer are the towers were multiple cameras have topped him they have a few of them on trailers or something, not a
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single permanent infrastructure. all kinds of infrastructure. they need roads that go parallel to the borders so they don't have to go out and around, they need all kinds of stuff, and this is the most important, impacted area of the border. >> tucker: let me ask. you took that shot, it shows a chicken wire fence. > that is a smuggling trail under the fence. >> tucker: is that border? >> that's not the border. that is 70 miles in from the border, believe it or not. up around the checkpoint of the border patrol has so the smugglers let people off before the checkpoint, they pick them up on the other side of the checkpoint. >> tucker: what kind of affect what a part of happen as part o texas? >> there is already some fencing that is comparable to a wall anyway. but it's hard to do it there because the river snakes around and around. where do you put it? theree are americans on the othr side of the wall that didn't like arizona.l. it is much more difficult. it would help in certain areas,
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no question about it. it is not a silver bullet. >> tucker: is it enforceable? >> air enforcement, sure. perfectly, can we seal it off perfectly? know. but it's enforceable. close to half the border patrol agents we do down they are doing on patrol things. we should be having clerks or other people. that is something the national guard helps with actually. they don't go out and arrest people, they help with support so the guys in the badges and guns can arrest people better. we can't control that much better than we do now. one of the n key things we also need, more detention space. when wee arrest someone from central america for instance, we can't just dump them across the border. the mexicans say, it is your problem. we arere not taking them back. you have to hold onto them somehow. until you can get them back, congress turned down the administration's request for extra detention money and so they end up having to do this catch and release thing. they give them a letter, show up for your immigration hearing two years from now please, and then
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you never see it again. they call it a run letter. >> tucker: thankfully paul ryan did fund border securitybo projects around the world for other countries. i know they are grateful. mark, thank you. white house correspondents dinner was held on saturday night. comedian michelle wolf delivered a monologue that many in the crowd, even those who hate drum, almost everybody, that was in poor taste. here's part of it. >> i actually really like sarah. i think she's very resourceful. she burns facts and then she uses that -- to create a perfect smoky eye. like, maybe she's born with it. maybe it's's allies. probably lies. and i never am really sure what to call sarah huckabee sanders. you know, is it sarah sanders? is it sarah huckabee sanders? what is uncle tom but for white women who disappoint other white women? oh, i know," there.
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>> tucker: fox news national correspondent ed henry was among many, including president of the white house correspondents association. he was in the position of running this dinner, hiring the entertainment. youte want on saturday. what was your response? >> i was appalled. among other things, we invited sarah sanders to be our guest for dinner, in our home. we being the correspondence. and she was insulted by this comedian. it went further than that. it was very personal. she seemed to be taking it very emotionally. you know, in terms of these attacks. she was struggling to keep her composure. i thinkep sarah sanders, she was consoled by a bunch of correspondence afterwards because itau was so negative and nasty. it went beyond that. there were jokes about abortion. i kid you not to. there was a joke along the lines of, don't knock it till you try it, i saw people sort of gasping at that. and then this comedian said, yeah, knock it out, the baby, knock it out.
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people literally had never heard anything up like this at one of these dinners. get that there are bigger issues in the country but given the fact that all the attention of this dinner, they should interview don mike issue a simple apology that said they should not have happened to sarah sanders. i've been getting feedback from people around the country who are anti-trump saying, why are you holding a comedian to a higher standard than the president? to which i say, i'm actually not. i agree that the president should be held to a higher standard. he said some very outrageous, and controversial things. there should be a higher standard which is why we have elections and he won the election. if you disagree with him, vote him out. >> tucker: here is what the white house correspondents association can control is a comedian who speaks. they can control that. >> the president of the association picked someone who is basically part of the resistance. probably, we should have figured out that this kind of thing was going to happen because this comedian wanted to make her name. here we are talking about her.
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>> tucker: you ran the association when obama was president. what would have happened to you personally and the association of the committee had attacked acobama? >> i thought about this for many long hours. i think conan o'brien, he's very talented, and also because i knew he had to face it's audience on money. remember when michael jordan said he would not enforce indoors a democrat because he said republicans by sneakers too? conan o'brien knew that republicans by sneakers to end republicans watch late-night tv and before the jimmy kimmels of the world and the anti-trump business, someone like conan o'brien had to face his audience. he had to be fair, take on the president but be fair.id i thought if i pick someone who got up there and did some of these strokes we saw saturday night and ripped president obama and a very personal, negative way, fox and the white house correspondents association would have paid a heavy price. >> tucker: the civil rights division of the justice department would open an investigation. thank you for that perspective.
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mark steyn comes on right after the break to assess what just happened here in washington on saturday night. we'll be right back. ♪ with this clever little app called audible. you can listen to the stories you love while doing the things you love, outside. everyone's doing it she's binging... they're binging... and... so is he. so put on your headphones, turn on audible and binge better. you wouldn't accept from any one else. so why accept it from your allergy pills? most pills don't finish the job because they don't relieve nasal congestion. flonase allergy relief is different. flonase relieves sneezing, itchy, watery eyes and a runny nose, plus nasal congestion, which pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances.
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happened. this month marks the one year anniversary of kathy griffin, the single most unhappy person in america, posing with a severed head of donald trump. today she went on "the view," of course, and revoked her apology and then took additional shots. here's part of what she said. >> i can't believe it's been a year. >> i know. a year this month this picture was released. >> what a year it's been. by the way, i take the apology back. the sons, don, jr., eric, and as i call them, eddie munster and date rape. >> tucker: she's a lot of fun. author and columnist mark steyn joins us. you have this remarkable ability to stand back and see the big picture. what are we looking at in these
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two appearances? >> i think actually we are looking at the death of comedy. to go to that abortion joke, first of all, actually, ed henry, insofar as itin o is a joke, ed actually toldal it betr than the so-called comedian did. it relies on a sort of word inversion, don't try it till you knock itit but if you do try to come and knock it out. is that i joke that a professional joke writer should right? i mean, what's fascinating to be is that it's offensive -- i quite like a lot of sharp, edgy so-called dangerous comedy. but this stuff is offensive without actually being funny. ifff you don't know what she was doing on saturday night, kellyanne conway is a liar, and then sarah huckabee sanders is also a liar, and if she'd had time for jokes about jim mattis and pompeo and sessions and the rest of the cabinet, they'd havt all been liars, too. what's sad is that this is such a thing to comedy.
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talking about the caravan a couple of minutes ago. i would love to have jokes about the caravan, jokes about north korea, jokes about president emmanuel macron. this is the smart, sophisticated washington crowdid and black ti, and they are listening to this woman using the f word, making a joke about her private parts require a lot more yarn than those pink hats on the trump parade. this is a sophisticated wit for the smartest people in washington. this is the death of comedy because there is nothing the left can make honest jokes about except to mock republicans as lawyers or uptight christian fundamentalist hung up on abortion. nothing else is left. >> tucker: it was funny in the same way that "the new york times" op-ed pages funny, if i funny, you mean -- within the very narrow boundaries of what isn acceptab.
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youle can to be funny if you cat say things. >> that is actually -- "the new york times" op-ed page is a very good example. i can never get over that, when i came to this country, they would be four pieces on there. there would be dull, turgid, earnest pieces about the bosnian war or whatever what was going on and then in the corner, there'd be some tweedy little any making coy so-called humoros jokes about bar code scanners. if you're going to be a political comedian, if this is the funniest night of the year in political comedy, it requires you actually to make savage political comedy, not about to sarah huckabee sanders' makeup, but about serious things like north korea and iran and all the rest of it. it is so -- what is so absurd about the stupid, hideous, dead occasion is you book people who can't do anything but say the f
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word and yet it is given the status of a sort of semi-state occasioned that the president is somehow rejecting centuries of tradition if he doesn't show up for. which is that? is it a night of serious, sharp political comedy or is it just frankly dull, turgid people mouthing off? >> tucker: totally unwilling to slay a single sacred cow. if you arera brave, make a joke about something who will offend people you live near. mark steyn, great to see you. over the weekend on msnbc, which certainly you were watching, a guest explained that if mike pence were ever to become president, he would start sending gay people to concentration camps. not jokingly come by the way. we'll get a response to that up next.
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termites, we're on the move.24/7. roger. hey rick, all good? oh yeah, we're good. we're good. termites never stop trying to get in, we never stop working to keep them out. terminix. defenders of home. >> tucker: if you are joy reid, you spend almost every day just soaking in the accolades from other journalists. you are brave, brilliant. but for the last week, life has not been that way for joy reid. she was attacked for comments on her old blog come a long defunct, on her old twitter feed. she did night you made those comments, and instead created a ludicrous story about how the bg was hacked. she called the fdic, it was all a lie. this week, she went halfway towards admitting it was a lie.
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she sort of apologized for some of them. i take ownership, she said, and then took no ownership at all. then she invited aa guy on calld brenton wolf. the point of brandon wolf on joy reid's show was to make everything okay. wolf did this by explaining that, okay, maybe those comments were offensive. they are nothing compared to mike pence. if mike pence became president, he would put gay people in concentration camps. watch this. >> we have homophobic psychopaths running the united states government today. that's the reality. we have a secretary of state, as was mentioned, that believes that gay people are sinners based on who they are. if mike pence, god bless him, ended up in the white house, sitting behind the t desk in the oval office, he would have us all in concentration camps hoping to pray away the gay. >> tucker: chadwick more lives in brooklyn, he spent years
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writing for "out" and "the advocate." he no longer does and he joins us tonight. you've been in the world of journalists and in the gay politics and you watch something like this over the weekend and your reaction is what? >> it's almost become a point of a depraved fantasy on their part. f they actually believe this could happen, that mike pence wants to dope this. he's a sort of using the exact same script that bedazzled figure skater in the olympics, going after vice president pence because they are really searching for homophobic monsters in the administration can comeest thing they upit with his mike pence, who hs to stop -- i feel very bad for him. he handles with attacks with much grace and decorum. i don't think there is anything homophobic about mike pence. they don't even know why they hate him. they don't even know what these those gay camps were about. it was a complete fantasy. he never 20 years old that was
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that she supported therapy for people who wanted to change their behavior. it hadit nothing to do with gay people specifically, and mike pence has become the go to scary bogeyman. >> tucker: dideyma he call for concentration camps? that i miss it? >> not that i'm aware of. i believe it's all made up. unfortunately, they want to believe he is captured electroshock therapy and that is not true either, unfortunately. they just can't come to terms with the fact that people really can't care about homosexuality at all anymore. it is very rich also coming from brandon wolf, a postman club survivor. pulse nightclub was not attacked by that radical amish by the person who attacked was part of the caliphate. there are people who want to
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harm gay people and it's not christians. >> tucker: who is it? tell me, now i'm intrigued! >>'m i believe it is the politil movement called islamofacism. i think omar mateen was a muslim. >> tucker: if there was a group of people who wanted to kill you, you'd probably want to name them and oppose them. why wouldn't brandon paul for doing that? >> i don't know. it's almost like because it doesn't fit into the narrative, so you kind of have to be in lockstep. >> tucker: whose behalf is he working on? >> i think he's just working on behalf of msnbc and the democratic party. i'm really not sure itsn has muh to do s with gay people. >> tucker: oh oh! is not a civil rights activist, he's a political hack who will say anything to get his candidate elected. >> i think you might be onto something. shocking i realize, incredibly shocking. that might be what's happening
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here. >> tucker: thank you. i knew you would explain it. i was thinking, really? concentration camps? i don't know. i don't catch all the news. i appreciated clearing that up. >> thank you very much. >> tucker: great to see you. president trump took another shot at nfl players who kneel for thee national anthem. did the nfl here it? what is their view on that these days by the way? i the latest coming out. ♪ rbor. i'm gonna regret that. with new car replacement, if your brand new car gets totaled, liberty mutual will pay the entire value plus depreciation. liberty stands with you. liberty mutual insurance. ♪yea, you can be the greatest ♪you can be the best ♪you can be the king kong ♪bangin on your chest ♪you can beat the world you can beat the war♪ ♪you can talk to god while bangin on his door♪ ♪you can throw your hands up you can beat the clock♪
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he has not been signed to a team since 2016. he began kneeling during the national anthem and started a league white trend. those in "the new york times" gotta got a hold of on the bell executives talking about it. dave portnoy is known to millions as el presidente, founder of barstool sports, he joins us tonight. if you are one of the few people whose judgment i trust. colin kaepernick has not been signed. you think in a meritocracy, he would be playing? >> he would come in totally. i think he is good enough to play. if i was an owner, i would not sign him personally, not because i care whether he kneels, but if you're an owner, why would you want this headache? that so they look at it. it will just bring controversy. he's good enough to play but the
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owners want to know headaches. o why take the headache? >> tucker:e you saw the piece on the three hour meeting that the owners had with the selected players and in my rating up it, the owners sounded like they were living in a different country.or is that a fair take? do they know what's going on? >> i don't think they totally know what is going on. going onto the other point, to a degree i think they do, they know there's a k controversy, ad the owners are very conservative, on a money train. i think the ideal world for an owner would be another owners signing him. but unless the owners want to be the guy to sign up, they want to point the finger. they want the other want to bite the bullet because it's good for the nfl over allhe if they put this issue behind them. but nobodydy wants it to be in their backyard. >> tucker: these are not moral leaders, they are businessmen who want the franchise to continue drawing huge amount of cash. >> if anybody thinks the owners care about anything but making
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money, they do not. any insight that they care about the moral issues, right, wrong, how people feel, they do not. they care about the bottom line, the money, and what it means for football. that is the clearest thing the nfl has ever done. you see it with with every issue that comes up, the hypocrisy of every decision. it's all based on money. roger caddell is the leader, licking his finger, putting it in the air, seeing what when the public opinion is flowing. >> tucker: yeah. i've noticed. ii want to get your take on ths since you run barstool, which i think has some of the most sensible people in america o reading it. as a reality check, there is a student at the university off utah who is creating a crying closet and the idea is that college is so stressful that kids need a place to go to weep in private. this is apparently flourishing college campus. do you think that your readers would use a crying closet if
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they had a chance to use it? >> i do not. unfortunately, the story is the least surprising story of all time. college kids or babies. that is well known. and we should say it's the my minority. i think most normal thinking people are like, what is going on here? the story get sensationalized. you get rewarded for it. everyone gets a trophy generation. >> tucker: we are told constantly that there is nothing wrong with an adult man crying in public, and that you should be proud to express your emotions and yet a lot of people kind of feel like, actually there is something kind of embarrassing about weeping over exams or something inng public. do you think we should be embarrassed? >> yeah. search and reasons to cry, the death in the family, i will not make fun but if you are crying over an exam or crying because you stub your toe or something little, i think that is
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embarrassing, when someone balls and public, you scramble up. it's human nature. i think there's something embarrassing to it. >> tucker: let me ask you one last l question. a country that encourages college students to cry and cry in closets is not a country that will produce a lot of competitive nhl players. do you think may be one of the reasons that so many people in the nhl are from canada or eastern europe is that we are not tough enough to play the game? >> that is a wild sleep. no, i just think hockey is probably a national sport in canada. this is a minority. in a weird way, you want to out leap of logic, the things wep rn intohe is the minority, the vocl minorities make a lot of noise.g so many people, such a big story, the earnings came out, most normal people don't care. there is such an outcry for things, again, the vocal minority, the crying closet, mostpe people aren't using matc.
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the people who use it like social media, you hear about it, guys like me and you make fun of it. we should actually throw the people crying and lock the door and leave them in the closet. proverbial sticking a kid in the locker in middle school. put them in there, lock the door, to let them out. >> tucker: i love it. that's what i like having you want because you are a well needed rate of reality. dave, w thanks so a lot for cog on. jim comey says the house andt tell your investigation into russia was too political and we should ignore it. we'll talk to the chairman of that committee right after the break. ♪ d we may not know much about medicine, but we know a lot about drama. from scandalous romance, to ridiculous plot twists. (gasping) son? dad! we also know you can avoid drama by getting an annual check-up.
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♪ >> tucker: fair to fbi director jim comey still sellins book was on "meet the press" this weekend. he said he was not impressed with the houses intel investigation because their work is too political. >> with the most important piece of work is that when the special counsel is doing now, this strikes me as a political document. >> to the house intelligence committee at all serve a good, and investigative purpose? >> not that i can see can see. >> it got too politicized? >> it wrecked the committee and damaged relationships with the fisa court, intelligence communities, just a wreck. >> tucker: what an oily, false character he is. obvious. of course, this political document would contrastic completely with the work of the special counsel investigation that initially employed peter strzok and lisa page. congressman devin nunes is the chairman of the house intel committee and he joins us
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tonight from california. what exactly, we can work our way, whathe does the court's charge against the report? you say the president did not collude with russia. the counterargument is what? >> it is hard to keep a straight face through thatth interview. first of all, it is softball after softball. it's not a real interview. but most importantly, mr. comey probably never read the report into likely because the department of justice and the fbi redacted so much of it, if you go online and try to read the report, you will see that much of it, you can't even read. we've been trying to get the department of justice and the intelligence agencies to unredact all of ours so the american people can actually see the work product we created. i think the most alarming thing is that mr. comey continues to say that he did not tell us things that clearly he said on the record to us, like the fact
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that mr. flynn, the agents that interviewed mr. flynn, did not believe he lied and we want the american people to see mr. comey's statement and we can't get thatme to them until r report is actually allowed to be up for the american public to see . >> tucker: you are in charge of oversight of the intel world. what did youna make of that statement that former cia director brennan made on friday when he appeared tori threaten e president over the mueller investigation? wait until youic see what muellr has. how does a former cia director have advanced knowledge? how would he nono more than i ce as a public citizen, would know? >> if that's the case, we have another problem because they've been hiding additional information. we've interviewed almost all the people involved. 75 people have interviewed. we found no evidence whatsoever of any collusion between the trump campaign and the russians.
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as i set multiple times before, we did find it very clear links between the russians and the party.tic so the people that essentially say that trump has done this and accused some of us of being conspiracy theorists, they are the ones we refuse to believe their conspiracy because we have no evidence of it, and then they deny the fact that they are the ones that paid to get information from the russians. i think mueller should be investigating them. >> tucker: really quickly, as an american, you found evidence that the president of the united states or his campaign collude with a hostile, foreign power, would you cover it up? >> no. as a matter fact, i've said that from the beginning. i will be the first want to go out until the american public, we have clear links between the trump campaign and the russians. tucker, i will repeat again, we have clear links between hillary clinton campaign and russians and nobody reports tha that. >> tucker: i haven't seen that on cnn. i have to run it by our
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fact-checkers. >> don't count on that. >> tucker:'t thank you for joining us tonight. california tells us it is the future of america. if that's true, then what does it mean the state has drug addicts shooting heroin in a subway station? no one's doing anything about it. we've got video. it's disturbing. we'll be right back. these friends were on a trip when their windshield got chipped. so they scheduled at safelite.com. they didn't have to change their plans or worry about a thing. i'll see you all in a little bit. and i fixed it right away with a strong repair they can trust. plus, with most insurance a safelite repair is no cost to you. >> customer: really?! >> tech: being there whenever you need us that's another safelite advantage. >> singers: safelite repair, safelite replace.
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>> tucker: we are leaving tonigh >> tucker: we are leaving tonight with a piece of tape that may make you sad about what happened to your country but it's a useful reminder about why it's happening. u this video shot at the civic center train station in downtown san francisco just a few blocks from twitter headquarters. junkies sprawled in the hallway shooting up in public, others lie unconscious in their o own vomit. imagine passing by these scene every morning. tech chieftains and city officials in san francisco do every day, and they ignore it. their own citizens degrading themselves, threatening others, dying in public. nobody does anything. they are too busy making civil rights heros out of illegal
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aliens. why? because they don't care about their own people. and that is the whole problembo right there. that's about it for us tonight. tune in every night at 8:00 to the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. guess who's next, ladies and gentlemen, sean hannity! this >> sean: you even have mark steyn saying it. great job, sir. we have an incredible show tonight. that is all we can say,ho buckle up. this has been a truly historic day in america, and around the world. literally starting with shocking revelations out of israel. prime minister benjamin netanyahu just gave an unmitigated warning to the international community as it relates to iran, they are secretly advancing their nuclear program, and israel, the united states, all of our allies now face extreme danger. the "washington free beacon" reporting tonight that even our own intel committee has confirmed this. coming up, we'll show you all the evidence, we'll explain why oba'
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