♪ >> jesse: i am jesse watters with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams, dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five" ." another shake-up to president trump's legal team as he ramped up his attack on the russia investigation. white house. [laughter] ty cobb's outs. he retires at the end of the month. those changes come as former trump attorney john dowd reveals mueller's team raised the

prospect of issuing a grand jury subpoena to compel the president to testify under oath oath if e doesn't sit down to talk. concerns about the probe. >> i know when you are in the middle of an investigation, you can lose some objectivity. are they objective about the presidents interview? do they have an open mind to the fact that he could be telling the truth and comey may be lying? if they have an open mind to that, then this is something we would consider. if they don't, then given all of the irregularities in the investigation, we would be foolish to have him be interviewed. >> jesse: here are some stipulations for an interview. >> what to you would be acceptable parameters for an interview? >> two hours. >> topics? >> questions in advance.

relevant topics. meaning russia, which may not be relevant any longer. we want a commitment that they are going to decide before the end of the summer so we don't have this drag on and further imperiled the presidency. >> jesse: mr. trump firing off on twitter once again. "there was no collusion. it is a hoax. and there is no obstruction of justice. that is a setup and trap." kimberly, two things going on. we will talk about the shake-up of the lawyers in a second. in terms of the collision course it looks like we are on, we are either going to have this go all the way to the supreme court or they are going to orchestrate some sort of controlled sit down with mueller, only two hours. you think those are the stakes? >> kimberly: i think this is really smart and quite reasonable. nobody wants to evolve away and drag it out. i think rudy giuliani is putting some really good parameters and limits on it to say we want to cooperate. we want to talk.

let sit down. let's limit the time scope and have a discussion ahead of time in terms of how it should be conducted. then the president will cooperate and answer the questions. that sounds quite reasonable, right? not something, tweets being fired for this and that or any back and forth. they want to answer those questions. i think it was important what he said. rudy giuliani said as long as i have an open mind, listen to the president, have a jumped to a foregone conclusion, then they are willing to sit down. >> jesse: how do you determine whether mueller has an open mind? >> kimberly: he should reply back "i have an open mind." [laughter] >> jesse: ty cobb is out. he worked for about a year for the president. he got all the documents to mueller and he set up all the interviews, and now they are bringing in this impeachment lawyer that was working for bill clinton. what signal does it sent to you? >> dana: he didn't just work

for bill clinton. i know emmett flood very well. he worked in the bush white house as well. i know about how he thinks. he has a wonderful, dry sense of humor, he is a very lawyer. we were having the u.s. attorney situation where the democrats were demanding all the documents. we were trying to produce them as fast as we could. the same exact argument that the republicans are making today against the justice department for not releasing documents, it's a mirror image of what happened in 2007 and 2008. i think emmett is a much more assertive and aggressive type of person. he knows special counsel law extremely well. i think there's the feeling that the original team was too accommodating to the mueller investigation. i don't know what this will change. i think when rudy giuliani says that this would be a two hour interview and we will have to see, the narrow scope, i think that's probably what emmet flood

talked to them about. jay sekulow did a lot of interview with emmet to get to this point. i think we forget, it was about five weeks ago that donald mcgahn, the presidents white house counsel said he would like to be gone by the summer, that he would stay until he found his replacement and that could extend the midterm. but emmet flood i think we'll end up being the white house counsel before the end of the summer. >> jesse: all right. greg, what we are hearing from the white house is, you know, i am preparing to broker peace on the north korean peninsula. trying to negotiate something in syria. trying to deal with the iranian nuclear situation and now you're making me spend hours prepping for a sitdown and wasting my time on this. >> greg: yeah, it is like studying for the s.a.t. while you are trying to ride a bike. anyway, we'll be right back. he should answer these questions on twitter. that's what he should do. i think two hours is way too long. i don't think he should have given them any time. do it in writing somehow. what bothers me most about this

is that the investigation, the media, the democrats all appear to be working in tandem. it's like i said yesterday. the iran deal, the democrats push the message, the media. what is the echo in the chamber? unseat and impeach. instead of a counter vision which requires ideas from democrats. they are relying on the ouster switch. we have to get rid of this guy and this is late to do it. you are point, we are probably in one of the most optimistic periods of recent history because we are watching the absence of isis videos. we are watching the absence of a north korean nuclear threat. looking at a strong economy and declining crime overall which is kind of interesting. have they actually planned this

out? they don't have to planted. they could try to impeach the guide that they should think in the long term, what is it mean of the country? what does it mean to half the country? what is it mean to the world. it's not just an attack on the united states. if the world is getting less violent. the world is getting safer because of a reduced north korean threat. it's about the world. aren't we supposed to be thinking globally? >> jesse: yes, juan, let's think globally. what do you think? >> juan: to me, it's a more aggressive stance. you are bringing in somebody who is a puncher and who knows how to fight. the thing is, i think it's jay sekulow who has taken the lead in saying to ty cobb i think it's time to go. i think you have seen the same thing with john dowd. both of them kind of were of a mind to say the president, if you can talk, let's talk, will we don't think it's a great idea and we counsel against it. the president wasn't listening but after michael cohen's office was rated, i think the president has more -- you are starting to

see people who have gone from the litigation phase i think, from the discovery phase, i should say, to litigation and confrontation. the competition temperature hap big time in the last few hours of advocates contributed to the temperature rising is rod rosenstein at justice saying that you have people in the house who are trying to intimidate him and engaged in what he calls extortion. >> jesse: we have some of that sound. let's hear rod rosenstein in his own words. stickered there are people who have been making threats, privately and publicly against me for quite some time. i think they should understand by now that the department of justice is not going to be extorted. we are going to do what's required by the rule of law, and any kind of threat that anybody makes are not going to affect the way we do our job. >> jesse: one of the reasons the house oversight committee is so frustrated with the department of justice, they've asked about peter strzok. they have asked about the hillary investigation.

they've asked about uranium one. they have asked about fisa abuse and they have been stonewalled for months and months and months and months and months by rod rosenstein and the fbi. there is a real level of frustration that's reaching critical mass. >> juan: , interim for a second and say wait a minute. rod rubenstein, not only do they help them justify firing comey. he gave them the comey memos. what do you mean stonewalled? spaces >> jesse: they asked abot peter strzok. they've asked about uranium one and got no answers. they have asked to see the dossier and the fisa applicatio application. it's not in the weeds. it's what began a lot of these investigation. >> juan: i tell you it's an effort by trump acolytes to try to undermine the standing of the justice department, fbi, and that's a tragedy. talk about thinking in the best interests of the country, that's not in the best interests of the country. >> jesse: i would argue that if the mueller investigation is looking in russia collusion, he

hasn't asked for a server from the dnc. hasn't asked for john podesta's server, hasn't asked about the payments made to christopher steele and the payments were hidden. i think there's a lot of collusion on the other side. if you want to look into that, he can. >> kimberly: there is some frustration here but i think in terms of the comments by rudy giuliani that there's a real sense of calm and a practical approach. as a lawyer, former prosecutor, that's what you do. no problem. let's go over it. i think it makes the president look good to show he has a reasonable person trying to work and cooperate with the other side because the president's position has been there is no collusion i did not obstruct and i haven't done anything wrong. frustrated by this. okay. therefore both sides are going to sit down and talk. you can't just put the president of the united states and with unfettered questions with no time frame or no end game et cetera. that would be ridiculous. no lawyer would do that. rudy giuliani has a lot of experience. he has a team he feels

comfortable working with. that's also very important. and i think this is a good sign. i think it's positive. >> jesse: do think the president is confident enough in his own abilities, dana, to think he could go toe-to-toe with mueller for three or four hours? >> dana: they are trying to get into his mind to see what his intent was. i don't pretend to even be able to do that. i do think that the president does have, should have some confidence in rod rosenstein. what he was doing is sticking up for the executive branch and the justice department. he is a good public servant and the president chose a good person even though he might be frustrated that this investigation is going on. obviously rod rosenstein has the country's best interests in mind that he's done well by the president, during the initial firing the first place with the memo he wrote. what's happening is our founding fathers knew about this a long time ago. three branches of government. they are equal branches, and they're going to have to fight it out.

we see this over and over again and every administration. it's actually quite comforting. >> jesse: and they sure are fighting out of every single level. >> greg: we know whose side the media is on. i think the public knows this stinks, that this is ultimately going to be a huge waste of time. if you don't think the media has been involved. storm's lawyer has been on cnn 60 times in three months. he is on the network more than james earl jones' voice. >> juan: let me say one thing in terms ratcheting it up. we come down to the question, if the president's lawyers say no to the possibility of testifying, then the subpoena comes, and that he could to the point of it goes to the supreme court or the president pleading the fifth. if that's the case, we are in, greg, explosive territory. >> greg: you hope. you hope. you can still dream. you want the president to be impeached. >> jesse: rudy giuliani is going to discuss all of this tonight on "hannity."

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♪ >> kimberly: top house democrat nancy pelosi appears to be giving republicans a gift. the polarized minority leaders think "we will win. i will run for speaker and i feel confident about it, and my members do too." not all democrats agree. some say she should step aside in favor of new party leadership. that's the question. greg, nancy pelosi has really been a huge presence and force in the democratic party for so many years. she is one of their top fund-raisers, bringing donors together, party message from a party direction party leaders. people who are put in power or candidates favored. to be honest, she is quite formidable in terms of what she's done in the past. now, seems like people are wanting to go into different directions. candidates going to run. what do you think is going to

happen? >> greg: so what you're saying is she is incompetent. [laughter] 2020 should be the year of the woman. you know. pulls he should be speaker. hillary must run again. debbie wasserman schultz should be secretary of state, though secretary sounds kind of sexist. this is more proof that there is absolutely no new thinking in the democratic party. the ghosts of failure past still hot there party. every time tom perez opens his mouth, 100 democrats leave the party and become independent. you might be right. she might be the only effective person in the party right now that's left in tatters after obama and hillary. the reason why they are doing so poorly with trump as no one has a plan for immigration to counter any of what he has done with north korea or isis. how can they prove they can do better in any of these arenas without a plan?

there only plan is to go after the guy. the only plan they have is to wish karl marx a happy birthday. >> kimberly: dana, it's pretty interesting. plenty of democrats feel bullish about the midterm elections, they might have a good chance. she is saying listen, we are going to live without vote. >> dana: where she gave this talk i think is important. it would have been just a local story but now because everything is national, it becomes a national story. she was in congressman seth moulton's backyard. he is one of the guys who wants to challenge her. he is in his local media -- she is in his local media. just like yesterday in the west virginia debate that bret baier and martha maccallum hosted. bret baier said how many of you would vote for mitch mcconnell to be majority leader? going after the establishment incumbent is also going to be in

play but it only gets you so far. the democrats have got to come up with a proactive economic agenda but i also think republicans are spending way too much time on defense and not thinking about a couple things that are really on the minds of americans. health care in particular is still the number one issue in the minds of the voters. there is no one talking about that right now. >> kimberly: all all right. jesse, the republicans, g.o.p. are probably saying okay. rubbing their hands together. >> jesse: yes. she is a great fund-raiser for democrats. even better for republicans. she is toxic nationally. she is the queen of the swamp. listen. having her be -- >> kimberly: the swamp is bipartisan. >> jesse: having her with a gavel is terrifying. the whole agenda grinds to a halt. she controls the purse strings. that means you don't get awol probably not repairs on the wall. she controls oversight, investigations, there will be hearings. it's a total nightmare. this is not your typical republican president.

he will we'll and deal with crying chuck. that's going to upset a few people on the right. i don't think it's a done deal that the democrats take the house. here's why. they have the coalition in place. i don't think the coalition is solidified. i think millennial support for democrats is down ten points of the last year or so. blacks don't usually turn out as much in the midterm elections. i think single white women, college educated, they are going to turn out. i think hispanics are going to turn out. but they are broke. the dnc has about $6 million cash on hand, $4 million in debt. the rnc has $40 million cash on hand. there's a lot of wild cards. mueller, north korea, who knows what's going to happen? if you get republican candidates that support the trump agenda but are still kind of independent of trump and will dismiss his tile if it doesn't play, i think they can do it. >> kimberly: juan, tell us

everything about the inside workings of the democratic party. >> juan: what struck me about the stories that nancy pelosi, in defending her leadership, she says she doesn't want to leave because that means there would be five white guys at the table. she is talking about mcconnell. she is talking about ryan and the president. >> dana: talking about the democrats too. >> juan: that's what i'm saying. >> dana: she said it would be hoyer, crowley, or ryan. >> juan: if they replace her. hoyer is at the table. hoyer and her, mcconnell and others. i think that was the strongest think she came out saying. saying you need a woman or someone who's not a white male of the table. >> greg: because we are still evil. just so everybody knows. she brought it up. white men are bad. >> juan: that's right. they are really having trouble. >> greg: she is saying in. >> juan: what you have to

understand is if you ask democrats about pelosi, they are quite aware that republicans relish the idea because if you go back to pennsylvania 18, connor lam victory in the district that was won handily by president trump. he said i will not vote for nancy pelosi for speaker. he won. the question going forward, how do democrats handle it. two-thirds of democrats and polls like nancy pelosi. more than two-thirds of republicans loathed nancy pelosi. the question is, how do you deal with it. at the moment, i reflective paul ryan. paul ryan left. >> jesse: he is still there. >> dana: in jersey there was local political ad i was watching during 60 minutes. they are all going after paul ryan as if they forgot he actually -- >> greg: juan reminded me when you made that comment about white males. there is still dripping with identity politics. they don't see people. they do not see individuals.

they just see groups. as long as they are part of that mind-set, they are going to lose, and i hope they lose big. it is time to favor the individual over the group. it is >> juan: you should say that to president trump when he plays white identity politics. >> greg: i don't believe he does. >> kimberly: another politically correct makeover for the boy scouts and we have lots to say about it next. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job

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♪ >> dana: boy scouts caused a storm of controversy last year when it announced it would allow girls to join the ranks. now another big change, more gender-neutral name. they are dropping the "boy" part. it will simply be called scouts bsa next year. the parent organization will still remain the boy scouts of america. they didn't quite go all the way

there, greg. do you think this is them trying to get ahead of what's going to happen in the future? >> greg: i believe they have 3,000 girls joining boy scouts. this is the wave of the future. it has to change because of a small percentage. we are seeing this in our culture everywhere. what's good for the boys is going to be, i think, consequential to the girls. primarily in women's sports. if you look at, if you can decide who you are by how you identify as opposed to your biological status, which is happening now, women in sports, as they become more hormonally closer to the masculine makeup of a man, do we get rid of the distinctions completely? it's going to be hard for women to compete against transgendered individuals. that's where i think this kind of is going. what other distinctions can you blur?

why does it have to be boys and girls? why can't men and women joined the scouts? isn't it age determination. can a 53-year-old man who identifies as a 16-year-old girl join the scouts? there is a guy who identifies as that. you think it's absurd. it's not. >> dana: it does sound absurd but there is a lot of absurdity happening. juan come i wanted to ask you, especially when it comes to boys' education, have we taken so much away from boys that this seems unnecessary? >> juan: what do you mean? >> dana: i feel like there's so much attention, and i am for it. my mentoring program, all that, for young women and girls and building their confidence. has it come at the expense of attention for boys questioning >> juan: it's interesting because i think often times these days boys are without fathers. we see an increase in terms of fatherless children. heavily in the black community

and hispanic community but i think now more than a third of white children. when you are asking that, it touches a nerve because i think you need role models, and you need a sense of an older male talking to a younger male about behavior and standards and how you deal with women, for example. but actually when i heard the story, i was concerned more about my granddaughters, girls losing their space. because i know for example i went to an all-male college. we had an all-female college college next door. haverford and bryn mawr. haverford went coed subsequently. no problem. bryn mawr never went coed. they don't go coed. it's the boys schools that went coed. you ask why they don't go coed, because girls have their space. they don't always have to be dealing with men in a male-dominated environment. we live in a male-dominated culture. here's an opportunity for women to talk about sexual harassment. how do you make progress in the workplace?

how do you deal with your own physical self as a woman without having men in your presence all the time? >> dana: i might have gotten too deep on this. is it just to name change or a signal of something else? >> jesse: i don't know. i am worried about the cookies. do the cookies survive the merger? [laughter] it's on the top of my mind. we are going to do some research on that. to greg's point, may be the nba should get ahead of things. we merged the wnba with the nba. you don't want any discoloration. i agree with juan. girls need their space. boys have their space. have a mixer. boy scouts, girl scouts. if they want to do stuff together, fine. when we were researching this, it didn't seem like a lot of people on the girls side or the boys side without thrilled about it. i don't even know why this happening. >> dana: the girl scouts were like, what are you doing here?

>> kimberly: exactly. people have to be able to assimilate, they want to have to go to their groups and things. in law school, i was in the latin spice club, the women, the irish. we would have mixers. dana and i were a campfire girls. bluebirds. >> greg: so was i. >> jesse: do you know how to build a campfire? >> kimberly: yeah. you went on sleepovers and you learn how to do that. arts and crafts. >> jesse: i doubt you too could build a campfire. >> dana: challenge accepted. >> greg: she grew up on a ranch, jesse. >> kimberly: i was on a farm every summer in ireland. >> juan: i think girls now can be equal scouts. that's different. >> dana: that's right. i head, a case for legalizing an

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♪ >> greg: according to a new study, soldiers with ptsd using the illegal drug ecstasy cure their conditions within weeks. this is key. i don't think i've ever seen the word "cured," in a highfalutin medical journal. usually it is "significantly improved." the study was small, 26 patients but the message is big. it changes you, it frightens you. drugs like ecstasy are legal because they work and when things were, they are hijacked for other purposes. to have fun, for example. then people die from taking too much. that's when the law breaks in and bans it.

it's happened to many substances that could have helped many people. it showed promise in psychotherapy and then it got banned. times are changing. we realize it's absurd to punish the substance and the patients because the substance has potential for abuse. instead, let scientists test them to treat illnesses. you want a crazy example? botulism is deadly. yet instead of reporting its -- newscasters hooted into their faces because it reduces wrinkles when used wisely. it's poison! other drugs like special k are being tested on depression, other drugs starting on ptsd. why not send a drug down the path of relief instead of leaving it on the streets. if you look at these studies, it's the choice of the patient. if you use veterans, people have an innate sense, democrats and republicans, that we owed to

them. it's a great strategy. if you just did -- this is a study of depressed i.t. workers, people are going to say too bad. >> dana: also we have thankfully learned enough about ptsd. >> greg: sorry, i.t. workers. >> dana: we have learned enough about ptsd to learn undd how damaging it is to somebody. the terrors, the suicides. one thing i think that could happen because of this study and the concern about it being misused and abused is the possibility of new delivery devices. so for example, if you find out that it's something that works for a patient with ptsd, a veteran, is there something like an implant? something where the doctor is in charge of it and it's not like handing pills out on the street. there is a lot of new innovations like that happening. scott gottlieb, fda commissioner

under president trump, he is really forward thinking in this regard. it's possible something could actually happen. >> greg: i hope so. juan, they are looking at all sorts of drugs that we have always been taught, in the posthumous 70s, we used to watch dragnet. every drug was bad. acid. now they are looking at these things and they are seeing their potential. >> juan: yeah, marijuana is the cutting edge of this. it's older people who find it's good for pain relief. i think lots of people who are voters. you're seeing the country change on marijuana in a radical way in our lifetime. >> kimberly: while they are voting? >> juan: i don't know. i think it might axley november 2016. >> greg: it ask planes why people are smoking more pot. >> juan: what struck me when i first read this, i am thinking, some big pharmaceutical company. i get through the story, no, not at all. the association for psychedelic studies which was created in

1986 after mdma, or ecstasy, had been banned. were these people supporters of ecstasy? is that why they were created? >> greg: there was a group of psychotherapists who were really, really angry when they, a valuable tool was taken for them. the guy in charge, he's been pioneering all this. that's how it happened. they were ticked off at the government. >> juan: it's interesting to me, previously most conservatives would have said no. no, no, no. not now given the veterans need, because it's a crisis for the veterans, all veterans, all of a sudden the conservatives are like yeah, let's try it. >> greg: that was the key, i think. >> kimberly: this is part of the overall complex problem that we have facing veterans, those that are coming home. so many more of them surviving injuries that otherwise would've been life-threatening or ending. traumatic brain injury, depression, anxiety,

homelessness, the things that come with serving, being away, families broken up. it's very difficult but i think there's definitely a genuine interest in trying to do the best for our men and women that serve. part of that would be allowing navy exposure to some other different types of remedies or drugs for therapies that might be beneficial to them. many of them seeking the help of the va as a last resort. that's why really need to do something about it. putting somebody very strong and great there to do a wonderful job for the veterans and really help them. >> greg: jesse, did you ever think you'd be doing a pro-ecstasy segment on fox news? [laughter] >> jesse: noel. my mind is spinning right now and i haven't taken any ecstasy. lsd was used in the '40s, '50s, treating alcoholism and ptsd and depression and it was banned because people would abuse it and now it's getting a second look because of this. the brain scanning imagery is so much more detailed. you can see, mdma or a small

dosage of lsd, what effect it has on the brain, and it gives scientists in the medical professionals more accurate read on what it's actually accomplishing. i think every option should be on the table. a therapy dog, psychotherapy, hyperbaric chambers, medical marijuana, mdma. let's get it. something that's taboo shouldn't prevent doctors from trying to help. >> juan: can i be that conservative on this? >> kimberly: this is getting weird. >> juan: ecstasy can kill young people. they go to parties, raves. >> jesse: small dose in a clinical trial. >> juan: be careful, folks. >> kimberly: that's good. it's important. you don't want people to get the wrong idea. it goes to show you that the men and women who served, they are brave to try other remedies and treatments that will help other people. what would you do for your family member, that's the point. >> greg: does a new campaign ad crossed the line? we debate next. prudential asked these couples:

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♪ >> juan: a georgia gubernatorial candidate campaign add is causing an uproar. is it funny or doesn't cross the line? >> i am brian kemp.

this is jake, a young man interested in one of my daughters. jake asked why i was running for governor. >> cap government spending, take a chainsaw to regulation, make georgia number one for small business. >> two things if you want to date one of my daughters. >> respect and a healthy appreciation for the second amendment, sir. >> we are going to get along just fine. >> juan: well, well, well. i am the one here who is for gun control, but i'm going to stay out of this. i want to know what you think. what do you think of it? >> kimberly: it was cute for a bit there, having no talking doing what you're for but then point a gun. don't point a gun at anybody unless you're going to use it. >> jesse: i thought it was funny. i respectfully disagree with kimberly. is that okay? >> kimberly: yes. >> jesse: i am kidding. it doesn't look like he pointed it at the kid.

he was resting on the lap. i think people need to lighten up. maybe people in new york are upset by it but in georgia it plays. i don't think it's going to backfire. >> dana: where you stand is where you sit. people who are for the second amendment that live in georgia, they get to decide if this is okay or not. i am assuming they are public and to be like oh, like what jesse was saying lighten up. but i also think the ad still would have worked had he not done the last movement. having it there, not cocked, it would have worked. >> greg: i think doing that last move was kind of the punch line. during the break, i said i can't tell if he was pointing it or not. it reminds me a bit of the prom dress story we did yesterday. outrage generated by social media because it's so easy. the barrier to entry these days,

registering outrage is a keystroke. there is a lot of people that could talk about how bad this is. and then they move on. meanwhile joy reid's paper trail is way worse than this. i wonder how many people upset by this commercial and upset by the prom dress actually care about msnbc protecting joy reid. the paper trail, as large as what israel found in iran. >> dana: also there was no hacking. >> greg: yes, there was no hacking. >> juan: what interests me is that this is not a singular event. joe the plumber had an ad like this. rick santorum has had ads like this. >> dana: there is always something. >> juan: his way, brian kemp, who's running for governor in georgia, currently georgia's secretary of state said that when people complained about, hey, i am conservative. get over it. but i thought, i am not thinking a lot of conservatives -- and

gun owners are going to take to this. in fact, he's heard from gun owners who object. >> greg: what is the liberal counterpart commercial? check out my vegan meal. >> dana: we should take an eye -- keep an eye on this georgia gubernatorial race. >> kimberly: georgia, a lot of families there, at an early age they go hunting or shooting. it's part of the culture. it plays for local. >> juan: don't you think it's a little close to parkland? anyway. "one more thing" is up next.

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>> time now for "one more thing." dana? >> i'll try to up my game. if you are a fan of the wwe, you might know who this is. take a look -- that is glen cane jacobs. it appears he is gop for mayor in nox county, tennessee. 7' , 300-pound wrestler, clemplegged the primary by 17 votes. he wants low jb numbers. his bio, wwe, a monstrous bomb nation extracted from your childhood nightmare.

he's running for mayor. >> much better than yesterday. well done, dana. i forget if it was yesterday, we talked about the scariest thing we have done. someone said they got stuck on a roller coaster. this happened in japan, universal studios. they were stuck on a rollercoaster upside down, suspended for two hours. >> wow. >> something was wrong with the censor. they were rescued eventually. for two hours, a thousand feet in the air. >> i would be below them catching the wallets and car keys. >> what a scavenger. >> now i can't go on rollercoasters. >> i don't like rolle rollercoa. >> they have their ups and downs. >> we talk about ecstasy, lsd,

opioids, fox news podcast.com. >> going through a drug phase, aren't you? >> i think it's important. >> meet me after and we'll discuss why. >> don't worry, mom. won't do it. >> for the good news part of our show, two black men arrested for hanging out in starbucks while waiting for a friend but didn't order anything, received a settlement of the city of philadelphia. they settled for $1 each and put $200,000 into helping young people start their own business. philadelphia mayor jim kenny says he's pleased to make the deal and have something good come out of the situation. >> remember when cramer settled for free coffee for the rest of

his life. >> that's what i would have done. >> free salami sandwiches. >> fantastic. this is a wonderful story about a young female entrepreneur. her name is jessica. she is taking on the world one cupcake at a time. they immigranted from the united states from cuba. it's the first cupcake on a pretzel. it's giving back with the jenny mccarthy foundation, supporting families on the autism spectrum, alice's lemonade stand dedicated to cancer research. we passed them around. one made each in your likeness. >> there you go. thank you for helping with that. >> this is about ten years ago.

never miss an episode of the special report. up next, bret baier. >> thanks, jessie. >> it's a legal shuffle and the president's attorney is leaving to be replaced by a former lawyer for bill clinton and the president's newest legal eagle is laying out conditions for an interview with the special council. nancy pelosi says she's not going anywhere. this is "special report." >> good evening, welcome to washington, i'm bret baier. in a phone call with john roberts, rudy