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it made its debut in ohio with a 200 foot drop and top speed of 74 miles an hour. no thanks. >> bill: sign me up. i would have a blast on that thing. >> julie: i don't like rollercoasters. >> bill: sandusky. ohio. >> president trump intensifying his -- >> i'm melissa francis. the president taking to twitter blasting robert mueller's probe of russia interference in the 2016 election tweeting the russian witch hunt is rapidly losing credibility. house intelligence community found nothing with russia. now the probe says okay, what else is there? how about obstruction for a made-up phony crime? there is no o, it is called fighting back. >> bill: kevin corke live now with more. kevin. >> what a morning it has been.
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a nine-tweet morning and it is just a little after 11:00. certainly given the topics the president has been covering i imagine we'll see more throughout the day. of note as you pointed out zeroing once again on the russia probe. let me take you back to his favorite social media platform. talking about not just the probe itself but 13 angry democrats in charge of the russia witch hunt. they're finding out there is a court system in place that protects people from injustice and just wait until the courts get to see your unrevealed conflicts of interest. he also tweeted this since i have you, is this phony witch hunt going to go on even longer so it wrongfully impacts the mid-term elections, which is what the democrats always intended? republicans better get tough and smart before it's too late. clearly white house officials, jon, have been saying this
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probe -- it has been backed up by ancillary arrests but not linking the trump administration. it hasn't stopped mueller's team from going far afield of the original assignment. the most pressing question now is whether or not the president himself will answer to a possible subpoena and then testify in person. instead doing so in writing as some have suggested. here is mayor rudy giuliani. >> america thinks he would be a fool to testify. i have a client who wants to testify. he said it yesterday. and jay and i said to ourselves my goodness, i hope we get a chance to tell him the risks that he is taking. so he may testify. >> may testify but the betting money around here is he probably won't. instead he will do so responding to questions in
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writing. but you never know. he is unpredictable. he said he wants to testify as you heard the mayor say right there. keep if mind this idea of the possible threat the president kind of tossed out there on twitter today, jon, about possibly looking into unrevealed conflicts of interest. that should make for very interesting question today at the briefing at 2:00. back to you. >> it was an interesting choice of words. other shoes could be dropping. >> that's it. >> kevin corke at the white house. thank you. >> mid-terms now in a big primary day for the gop tomorrow in four key states including west virginia where republicans hope to unseat senator joe manchin at president trump comes out against one candidate. great people of west virginia, we have together a really great chance to keep making a big difference. problem is don blankenship can't win the general election in your state. no way. remember alabama.
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vote representative jenkins or a.g. morrissey. blankenship firing back saying i'm the only candidate that has beaten joe manchin and done it twice. in the history of west virginia no one has been more supportive of conservative causes than i have been. neither of my opponents can beat joe manchin without my support but i'll beat him even without the support of the establishment. joining me down is the main street columnist for the washington journal and speech writer for george w. bush and fox news contributor. what do you make of all that back and forth? >> interesting that president trump is being accused of being the republican establishment in this race. look, west virginia is an interesting state. trump not only carried it 68%, i think, hillary got 26%, something like that. but he carried every county. so it is hard to imagine a state more amenable to donald trump and we know this year a lot of democrats, 10 democrats
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are running in states that mr. trump carried. so this is a great time for republican there. the sitting democratic senator, joe manchin, has said he is a moderate. tried to be moderate but he has a couple of weaknesses. he voted against the repeal of obamacare. he voted against the tax reform. the president has made the case that he is not really as moderate as he claims. and this should be the time but the lead candidate has some problems, you know, with the law and so forth and so they are hoping that the -- the president is hoping and i think mr. mcconnell is hoping that one of the other two republicans gets the bid. >> the big concern is don't repeat alabama. don't let something like that happen again. joe manchin did vote against tax reform and voted against the repeal of obamacare. who represents the alabama problem in this equation?
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>> mr. blankenship represents that case. so they want to go -- >> meaning he couldn't win the state? >> i think it's a little more complicated for him. and every seat is now very crucial. we saw both with the failure of obamacare and the passing of tax reform how crucial things were in the senate. it comes down to one vote in a lot of these cases. now i think the president also realizes if he loses the senate it's the end to his judges and a lot of appointments and a lot of his agenda will die for two years if he loses that. plus he has to worry if the democrats take the house and he is impeached and the senate will be the jury. >> one thing i notice lately you see the president's approval ratings go up no matter which play you're looking at. a lot of mainstream polls that are showing him near 50%. at the same time you are
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suddenly hearing all of these republicans trying to create zero distance between themselves and president trump. it makes me wonder about the overall map. for so long democrats said it would be a bloodbath. more unpopular than any president has ever been. all of a sudden he is not so unpopular. what has turned the tide? >> first of all, some of these states like west virginia he has always been popular and a large chunk of the republican party he is still popular. the problem for republicans there is a wing of the republican party that doesn't like if you're pro trump or anti-trump a larger wing that doesn't like that. it can make it difficult for some candidates. what's clear from this is that the president tends to be involved very heavily in the 2018 mid-terms and he will make it a fight, as he usually does. >> he is normally so soft
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spoken and not in the mix of things. bill mcgurn. thank you so much. appreciate your time. >> right now at the state department the new secretary of state has a major meeting to begin the week. mike pompeo sits down with boris johnson making the case the u.s. should remain in the iran nuclear deal with the deadline on a decision days away. fox news national security analyst walid phares will be here to discuss it shortly. >> an air force veteran stabbed to death in an apparent road rage incident. a manhunt is underway in missouri for another driver. 23-year-old cody harter died saturday and left along a roadway. witnesses saw him arguing with another motorist before his death. police believe he was stabbed during the confrontation before the other driver drove away. >> the president's new lawyer
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on a whirlwind media blitz and rudy giuliani says it is going great. our panel with weigh in on that. plus a cruise on carnival's dream ship turned into a nightmare. >> people were standing there saying they lost everything and they were upset.
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>> jon: president trump's new lawyer continuing his media blitz over the weekend insisting president trump didn't say he -- he did -- despite numerous directions on the facts. >> my issue was getting up to speed on the facts. i'm halfway there. >> has the president or any member of his team suggested to michael cohen in any way the
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president would pardon him if he were indicted? >> jay and i have made it clear and michael's lawyers all know that obviously is not on the table and not a decision to be made now. no reason to pardon anybody now. >> jon: he tells the "washington post" we all feel pretty good we have everything kind of straightened out and we're setting the agenda. everybody is reacting to us now and i feel good about that because that's what i came in to do. joining us with more is dean miller, fox news contributor. also tammy bruce, president of the independent women's voice and also a fox news contributor. so judy, rudy giuliani says everybody is reacting to us now. they're driving the train. how do you see it? >> they certainly are reacting to him but the problem is he is trying to outdo donald trump in terms of getting people talking about him and what they're saying about him is not by and large complimentary. rudy giuliani -- i can only think of this being an
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extremely sad development because i'm a new yorker and i remember mayor giuliani, america's mayor after 9/11. this is not that guy. a lawyer who talks about still learning the facts while talking about the law and his conclusion that he has already drawn, contradicting his client again and again? he may be trying to rescue the president from legal trouble but creating a whole bunch of political problems for his client. >> jon: a formal federal prosecutor when it comes to understanding the law. >> he is not. i think it comes down to whether you like the job he has or not. this is what we have to consider with mayor giuliani is that you have a man who now has, in fact, changed the conversation and i think it's important and i think there is a method to this madness that you now have an unpredictable, aggressive voice who knows all the players. they've known each other for years, if not decades.
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he knows who has got what baggage and he wants, in fact, to make sure when there will be a conversation, that they are controlling that narrative. of course there is going to be negative coverage because it's the legacy media. anybody who is going to defend the president or change the narrative the left has enjoyed controlling for so long, he will get pushback. his history shows us he knows what he is doing. the nature of his history with these individuals, the president, mueller as well. he knows what he is doing and i think this is the new thing he has introduced that is helpful for americans to realize and for his opposition to realize that they aren't going to sit back and take what's going on. they will be participants in this. >> jon: it is an unpredictable president and he now has by his side an unpredictable attorney. >> i don't think that will serve either man very, very well. the problem is the president said from the beginning he knew nothing about the hush money to stormy daniels. now all of a sudden his lawyer
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says actually he did. i think that while trying to rescue his client from perhaps the campaign violation charge he has created a political credibility problem for him and he is all over the airwaves. that's not necessarily a good thing for donald trump. >> we know that, in fact, lawyers do this. you have billions of dollars and high-powered clients. you can pay somebody for something and have expenses without your client knowing the dynamic, which is one of your jobs is to protect your client from the details of what these things are. this is the kind of thing that i think makes all the sense in the world. at the same time i think we have to realize that the president in the midst of this is also running the world. i would caution anyone who would say this is going to be bad news for the president or the people around him. the president has had tremendous success in everything he has done whether it's foreign policy, the economy is booming, and every step of the way people have said oh my god, it will be the end. this is a disaster.
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when the president has been making things work on one end and the media has been distracted by what they prefer to see on the other. >> how is calling jerad kushner disposable, how does that help his client? >> i think there is also the difference between unnamed sources, gossip, rumor, a comment that might be made on the aside versus the people who are running the free world trying to get this nation back on her feet making sure individual lives here, the individual citizens has money in their pocket again and that our enemies don't get a nuclear weapon. and let's forget about the destruction of isis and north korea. a lot of other things going on. >> he is not secretary of state. he is the president's lawyer at the moment. how does -- >> this is my point. this is my point is that we go right back to rudy giuliani when it is the larger picture. >> how does it help donald trump to have rudy giuliani talk about the premature
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release of three american hostages in north korea when they haven't been released sf how does that help his client? >> the media should be talking about the spectrum of these things but there is a fixation about the gossip and rumors instead of the real news happening in the country. >> jon: it has been a while since we had the two of you on together and gave you time. >> we agree to disagree. >> tammy and judy, thank you both. >> melissa: hangover actor ken jones jumping off the stage of his comedy show. how he used his past medical training to help someone in the audience. pressure is growing for president trump to stay in the iran nuclear deal days away from the deadline. why some republicans saying withdrawing from the agreement is a bad idea. >> i'm not necessarily opposed to sticking with this deal forever but you need to have a clear idea about next steps. if we are going to pull out. and especially given the larger
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context of iran's aggressive activity in the middle east.
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i saw i thought they handled it well. they were -- they had a lot of crew over there trying to clean up and they had vacuums and towels out. >> melissa: wow, guests impacted will receive a full refund and half off a future cruise. they will be happy to jump right back on one of those boats. >> jon: nice. a comedian showing his medical training was no medical matter. he jumped into the audience while a person had a seizure. he helped until the ambulance took her to the hospital. he is playing mr. chou in hangover movies. he started his career as a medical doctor. >> melissa: just in ahead of saturday's deadline on the iran nuclear deal top republicans warning president trump against walking away from the agreement
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as critics accuse former secretary of state john kerry of secretly meeting with world leaders to try to salvage the deal. take a listen. >> should president trump pull out of the iran nuclear deal next saturday? >> i would counsel against it. i was opposed to the iran deal. i thought it was a bad deal. iran got most of the benefit up front with relief of sanctions and a plane load of cash that president obama sent over there. we lost a lot of our leverage. the key question is we are where we are, what happens next if the u.s. pulls out? >> melissa: fox news national security and foreign policy expert. sir, thank you for joining us. you know we also know that boris johnson, the british foreign secretary, wants the u.s. to stay in the deal and reports out of reuters and others say that france, britain and germany are trying to make a deal to stay in even if the u.s. doesn't. and some say that the iranians
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have signaled they might stay in as well even if the u.s. pulls out. >> it tells me a lot and tells me more, melissa, are the statements of president rouhani and other iranian leaders. if what they said was written in a novel it would be the equivalent of transfer the money or i kill you. they are threatening the united states that if they would withdraw from the deal they'll take action against us and our allies and interests in the region and what is even more complicated is that many of the european leaders are validating what the iranians are saying on that ground alone before getting to the technicalities of the deal. we can't work with partners like iran who threaten us with missiles. >> melissa: this idea they could all have the deal without us makes you think that iran is desperate to stay in it because they feel like they are getting
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something for nothing. i mean, the idea they're all so desperate to keep the money rolling between them. iran getting the money and germany, france and britain being able to trade with iran and they're saying we'll all stick to it even if the u.s. pulls out. an implication or hint they might be willing to do it shows that iran is not giving anything up. >> yes, of course. it is all about money at the end of the day. if you go back to before 2015 or before 2014 that's what iran was doing. they were trading with russia, with china, with some europeans. what has changed is that the united states entered the dance by offering to release a lot of money and what we're doing right now is saying this is a bad deal. we're stopping, but what we need to do as you said is to negotiate another deal from a different position. >> melissa: meanwhile you have john kerry out there freelancing, which is pretty outrageous supposedly sitting down with iran's foreign minister talking about how to try to preserve the deal and
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giving them advice on how to deal with it. president trump tweeting about this. the united states does not need john kerry's possibly illegal shadow diplomacy on a very bad negotiated iran deal. he was the one that created this mess in the first place. marco rubio went as far as to say that what he was doing violates the hatch act. what do you think of what john kerry is supposedly doing according to the reports in the "boston globe"? >> a lot of interpretations but a u.s. citizen advising another government and a government that is on our terror list is basically not in line with what the u.s. government both administration and congress wants to see happening. that is counterproductive. >> melissa: what do you think happens if the president does, in fact, pull out of the deal when there is so much pressure to stay in? what is the fallout after that? >> the pressure will peak right now between now and his decision. it will go so high that the
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world will think there will be war or conflict. nothing. the ranance will continue to trade with them. we have to try to negotiate a better deal. europeans say if the united states is doing a better deal and they will sign it maybe we put pressure on the iranians. the pressure will be on the iranians. >> melissa: a spokesperson for john kerry i think every american would urge iran to remain in compliance with the nuclear agreement that prevented a war. secretary kerry stays in touch with former counterparts around the world like every other previous secretary of state. he believes it is important that the nuclear agreement, which took the world years to negotiate, remain effective as countries focus on stability in the region. your reaction to his statement. >> if he is representing himself so be it. if he is claiming he is representing the united states or the opposition it's a different ballgame. >> melissa: walid, thank you for your time.
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we appreciate it. >> jon: the latest addition to the president's legal team offering clues about president trump will handle the mueller investigation and emergency workers battling lava flows in hawaii warning some residents to go now as a new crack opens up in the earth. >> in a fire, you can see it coming. it doesn't pop up right under your feet. and that's the main difference that i see. there is a crack in the ground, well, i've seen cracks in the pavement before, you know, but i didn't know that meant that there is a lava tube underneath there. your brain changes as you get older. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember.
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hawaii including kilauea, the youngest and most active. it is putting on a huge fireworks display at the expense of 2,000 residents forced to evacuate after it shot lava and toxic gas 300 feet in the air and two earthquakes. we got into this neighborhood yesterday and shot some video. you can literally see some homes being swallowed up by the lava flows. there are seven homes in the leilani estates. it is built upon a riff zone and that's about 20 miles from the summit of kilauea, which right now is sending millions of tons of magna through this series of underground tubes and chambers which is then punching out or venting through the
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planet's crust at the subdivision. >> it was roaring sky high. it was fuming, roaring, thundering, rocks were flying out of the ground and it only took probably from 6:00 in the morning to 9:00 in the morning to fill that whole area with lava. three or four hours only. >> police finally allowed residents back into the neighborhood yesterday to retrieve medications, appliances, pets, etc. now the eruption released high levels of sulfur dioxide gas which is toxic and makes the area uninhabitable. several individuals found out what they have is gone. >> i have two acres that are down here and they got covered this morning. but no structure and we have each other and we're safe. >> i see cracks all over the place that weren't there two
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days ago. it looks like a whole place is going to collapse in a couple days. it really does. >> the whole house is on fire. it's gone. >> i'm so sorry. >> thank you. start over. we can start over again. >> so, you know, the question that everyone wants to know is when will it end? nobody knows. there was a similar incident to this with kilauea in 1985 and it continued to spew lava for three months. when people get back into the neighborhoods, utilities have been destroyed, the gases are still there, this is going to be a long process. back to you. >> melissa: thank you, william la jeunesse. >> jon: just in on the russia investigation, rudy giuliani says president trump would not have to comply with a subpoena from special counsel robert mueller. and he is not ruling out the president taking the fifth amendment.
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>> are you confident the president will not take the fifth in this case? >> how can i ever be confident of that? >> jon: richard fowler and we have a political consultant who worked on the romney campaign. richard, why should everybody be surprised the president might consider taking the fifth amendment? it's available to any american. >> here is the problem with the president taking the fifth because it -- while it might work in court and for this particular hearing or this deposition if we get that far, what it does is creates a political problem and says the president to some extent might be admitting some sort of guilt to the american people and that is bad for the president going into this mid-term election because it makes the russia cloud hanging over the republican party even bigger and filled with even more water. so that's the problem with pleading the fifth. if i were the president and i'm
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not a lawyer, if i were his attorney i would say maybe you don't testify at all and just let this investigation run its course and let it be. the fact that having a debate whether or not he is going to testify is problematic for this president. we know he has a problem with the truth. >> jon: i'll let that statement stand and not going to endorse that. a lot of people are saying that it's not necessarily even legal to compel testimony from a president in front of a grand jury. >> in 2000 the office of legal counsel stated that you cannot indict a sitting president because it would make the president's job practically impossible. he couldn't do his job. if i can, jon, point to two things that richard pointed out. he talked about the russia cloud hanging over republicans going into mid-terms. i think that is a fallacy. there has only been two times the party of the president has actually gained a seat in the
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house. once in 1936 under fdr and in 2002 under george w. bush. according to historical precedent it wouldn't be surprising if republicans lose the house but i should make this point that it is looking like the republicans not only going the maintain their control of the senate but likely gain seats in the united states senate because democrats have a far more seats up for reelection in comparison to republicans which would make it the first time in history that a party has lost seats in the house while gaining seats in the senate. it is not as black and white as richard is attempting to make it. >> jon: there is a part of the president's legal team and he had this to say. >> the president will not sit down for an interview because this investigation has now reached a level of bad faith. this is no longer a good-faith investigation. the tactics that mueller used against michael cohen and manafort demonstrate a lack of good faith. >> jon: what about it, richard?
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michael cohen has nothing as far as we can tell as far as anything publicly released has nothing to do with the russia investigation, which is what mueller is charged with. >> i think you have to separate michael cohen from the russia investigation. he is under investigation for under things that is being handled by a new york u.s. attorney but not being handled by the mueller investigation. >> jon: it was handed to the southern district of new york from the mueller investigation. >> they found illegal wrongdoing and they emotion paneled a grand jury went to a judge and the warrant was granted. with that being said i think the idea that republicans are going to pick up seats in the senate, i think that's going to be a tough row to hoe. it is too far out to tell and the democrats we have in red states are looking good right now. joe manchin looks good. heidi heitkamp looks good and
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cruz is vulnerable. o'rourke is in the margin of error in texas. it could be a bad election for republicans come november. >> jon: you guys are talking politics and we're trying to talk law here. >> about the law. look, the american -- i've been critical of president trump on a host of issues but what is fair is fair. robert mueller at some point is going to have to come to the american people and address where this investigation is. in this country we do not give investigators free rein where they can do whatever they want. imagine if this was a regular american citizen under investigation by attorneys with unlimitless amounts of money and power etc. it wouldn't allow that person to have due process. why should we allow to permit it whether trump is the president. this is not fair. they need to make it clear to the american people what they are looking for. if they can't find something, jon, at some point it has to come to an end. >> jon: interesting point.
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thank you both. we'll have to leave it there. thank you both. >> thanks so much. >> melissa: as the gun control debate heats up across the country, some rural counties are taking matters into their own hands. the new effort to protect gun owners. plus president trump bolstering support for his nominee to head the c.i.a. gina haspel after new reports that she offered to withdraw. what could this mean for her nomination? >> the senate has never confirmed somebody with an operational role in the use of torture. that would be a first. a new low for the country if she is confirmed. m mark and i quit smoking with chantix. i tried, um, cold turkey. i tried the patches. i was tired and i was fed up. i wanted to try something different. for me, chantix really worked. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix,
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>> jon: parts of illinois adopting a controversial stand in the gun control debate. five counties declare themselves sanctuaries for gun owners. county officials acknowledge it's mostly a symbolic gesture.
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they hope it will be enough to worry some lawmakers. >> melissa: president trump coming to the defense for his pick for c.i.a. director gina haspel amid reports that she offered to withdraw her nomination and how her involvement in the enhanced interrogation program would reflect on the agency. president trump attempting to bolster support tweeting my highly respected nominee for c.i.a. director gina haspel has come under fire because she was too tough on terrorists. think of that in these very dangerous times we have the most qual tied person, a woman who democrats want out because she is too tough on terror. win, gina. joining me is roy blunt, senate intelligence committee member and vice chairman of the senate republican conference. thank you for joining us. i don't know if you've heard the comments that are opposed to gina haspel saying that this would be the first time the
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senate ever approved someone with an operational role in torture and that that would be a new low for the senate. how do you respond to that? >> well, i think gina haspel is the best prepared person to be nominated for this job. in the oval office she would always be a fearless advocate for the facts. you have to look really hard to come up for some reason why you wouldn't want this person to be confirmed to head the c.i.a. obviously she has been in the agency for 30 years. she has done many jobs, including acting director now and deputy director before that. she is perfectly qualified. i think you have to really make things up to come up with a reason why you wouldn't want her to run the agency. >> melissa: with respect, not making that up. they're saying you have to look hard to find something. they object to the fact she oversaw the site where they were doing water boarding regardless of the fact it was an approved technique at the time. that is their reason. how do you respond to that specific charge?
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>> well, i'm not sure how much of her background we'll be able to talk about in the open session. a hope a lot of her background you can talk about it. she has done a great job in the agency. in terms of the things that the c.i.a. was told to do and told were legal to do at the time, that's of course what you would expect the c.i.a. to be able to do. she is more than any other person that might be nominated likely to ask the tough questions about are you sure we've covered every base here? are you sure the justice department has come up with the right conclusion? because that's exactly what the c.i.a. was doing. whether she was personally involved or not i don't have any reason to believe that. i do know the one thing she personally did in terms of the tapes was something that she has been totally cleared of. she drafted what she was asked to draft. had no reason to believe that would be the document that her superior would use to destroy those tapes and there may very well have been good reasons for her superior to decide there
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were people involved in that, that was the best thing to do. it didn't go up the chain of command like gina thought it would. >> melissa: you talk about her also being the person in the room who is going to check all the boxes and the bases no matter what she is being told. former c.i.a. director on face the nation this weekend michael hayden said this. >> gina haspel is the one woman i want in that room when everyone else will be going into north/south auto bob saying you're right, boss. gina haspel won't. she will be absolute -- >> melissa: does that sound like the woman you know? >> i agree totally with mike hayden on that. she will be a person more than eager and willing to speak truth to power. she is a person who will have the facts that we have available and she will be arguing for what we know and that's the job of the c.i.a. the job of the c.i.a. is not to make a lot of decisions about what we should do, it's to be sure the president and other
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decision makers know everything we know and she will know that and be able to convey that in a powerful and effective way. this is a great message to send to the men and women who do these tough jobs for us all over the world. >> melissa: she was a field officer. that says a lot. >> jon: why is north korea suddenly talking tough ahead of the first-ever summit between the leaders of the u.s. and north? live with details on that coming up. ♪
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>> jon: new information ahead of an historic face-to-face meeting between kim jong-un and president trump. pyongyang is warning not to see north korea as a sign of
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weakness saying the united states is provoking a stand-off. jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon with more. >> a foreign ministry spokesman for north korean warned u.s. tough talk before the summit could ruin the detente they claim has begun between north korea and south korea. the spokesman pushed back on administration claims that its maximum pressure campaign drove north korea to the bargaining table. it would not be conducive to addressing the issue if the u.s. miscalculates the peace love intention of north korea as a sign of weakness and continues to pursue pressure and military threats. the chairman said he thinks north korea's real goal is sanction relief. >> it may also be they conducted enough nuclear and
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missile tests that they're pretty confident with their capabilities. they may feel a need to have a p.r. offensive and i have no doubt their hope is to divide us from our allies in south korea. >> late last week -- the pentagon called a news story false about bringing home some of our troops. he was asked if he was looking to pull troops out of south korea. he said he wouldn't. >> president trump: at some point i would like to save the money. we have 32,000 troops there. i think a lot of great things will happen. troops are not on the table, absolutely. >> the white house will soon announce the time and location of the summit. there is still no word on when the three american citizens held in north korea will be released. >> jon: jennifer griffin at the pentagon. jennifer, thank you.
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>> right now, clean-up crews are on the scene in alabama after a barge burst into flames on the mobile river. the flat boat was carrying scrap metal and ignited and ran aground. the blaze died out. no crew members were on board at the time and no injuries were reported, the cause of the fire is under investigation. can you imagine seeing that thing come in? >> how about a barge full of metal catch fire, i'm curious. >> i don't know, maybe something smoldering underneath and the whole thing went up.
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>> it's a mystery. >> we should go investigate, check it out. >> thanks for joining us. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> we begin with fox news alert, new reaction to president trump's legal team taking on special counsel investigation. taking it head on. the newest member of the president's team, rudy giuliani, says the president does not have to comply with the potential subpoena from robert mueller, adding he would not let his client walk into a "trap," you are watching "outnumbered," here is kennedy montgomery, herself. abby huntsman, i haven't seen you. >> good to be back. >> strategist and senior fellow for independent women's voice, very independent, lisa boothe. >> that's me. >> in the middle seat today, opinion editor and columnist for washington times charlie hunt, put a hurt on us. >> that is right. >> i like the intros

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