the evening when those race calls come in and we will see where the momentum gets us going as we head into november. tomorrow night at 7:00. tucker up next in d.c. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. if you watch the show from time to time you know that we really have tried to keep an open mind about the robert mueller russia investigation. that sounds insincere but it's not, it's sincere. if american citizens colluded with a hostile foreign power to hurt the united states we would want to know about it. we would never defend disloyal behavior like that, no matter who the president was. so for the last year we have consistently held back. even as ominous signs accumulated, we struggled against calling the mueller investigation a partisan witch hunt designed to topple the president. we didn't want to think that it was. unfortunately it's getting harder to deny that now.

as federal judge t.s. eliot put it last week, mueller is seeking only information that would reflect on mr. trump or lead with possible impeachment. there you have it. that is a hit job on a democratically elected leader. the left knows this and of course it pleases them. removing him from office is the only principal they recognize. but instead of admitting that they lecture the rest of us engrave tones about the rule of law like they really care what the constitution says. of course they don't. as they pointed out in a pretty smart piece over the weekend mueller will have the power to take trump out. no institution would. the only institution with the power to prosecute the president is the congress. the presidency is a political office. voters get to decide who fills it. others get to check the power, not rogue fbi agents, not peter or lisa page. could the congress. if the president has committed a crime the congress can put him on crime, that's called

impeachment. they could do it tomorrow if they wanted. it's in the constitution. impeachment, this is the best part, takes place openly in public. the rest of us can watch it and evaluated every step of the way. there are no redacted documents or leaked text messages from creepy fbi agents. the whole thing is transparent and that's how democracies are supposed to operate, openly. ironically, the one group that understands this is the democratic base. amazing, but it's true. they badly want to impeach donald trump, and they say so. their leaders lie about it and they do it for the same reason they lie about everything, because all they care about really is power. they don't want to scare voters before the midterm election so they don't mention impeachment. they use on use unelected bureaucrats with guns to cross the presidency. the worst part is that it's working. byron york for the "washington examiner." jonathan turley, they both join us tonight. professor, first to you, why not just say we want to impeach the

president, we think we've committed high time, crimes and misdemeanors, they do think that. why should that be embarrassing, it's a constitutional procedure? >> they certainly should be open about it if that is their motivation. there's no question that the preferred route for the constitution is to have a trial in the senate after impeachment in the house, to have that decision. you can always still impeach someone once they are removed from office. there is an ongoing academic debate whether any sitting president can be indicted but most prosecutors yield to the impeachment process. >> tucker: there's no debate over what's the most democratic mechanism for dealing with the president who's done something wrong, it's by using the representative that voters elected, correct? >> that's the preferred way. the fact is that the framers gave us a process by which we could first impeach and then remove the president. as long as you can prove high crimes and misdemeanors, clearly some democratic members are running on that. i don't see the problem, frankly with trump also running on that. i think for him to say this is about my impeachment, i have no

problem with that because obviously that is an underlying narrative for the other side. but i think what will have to happen first is mueller will have to issue a report and then if congress changes hands, particularly in the house, you could very well see the impeachment process. >> tucker: the question of the subpoena, we saw yet another piece of information leaked in the press recently that the mueller people are considering subpoenaing a president. at the white house is saying we may reject that. where does it stand? >> that's where it stands right now. we don't know if mueller is really going to do this. we have never had this come to a conflict in history. the nixon case was about subpoenaing documents about evidence, not actually testimon testimony. with bill clinton, ken starr subpoenaed bill clinton and then they work something out so that ken starr would withdraw the subpoena while bill clinton testified, but he did get a few things that you would not get

it, he got to keep his lawyers in the room with him. if he did it on video. he didn't go to a grand jury room, and the time was limited. on the other hand, he actually did testify. i think what you are seeing right now with this case is that trump is realized, perhaps that this is more of a political fight, this is an impeachment fight more than anything. while his lawyers talked about whether a president can or cannot be subpoenaed or called to testify, rudy giuliani, who is really more of a spokesman right now, and others, are working to discredit the independent counsel, or the special counsel in this case because if it does come to the house -- by the way, the reasons democrats are doing this is because they are a minority. >> tucker: they are also not talking about it, most of them. some fringe members are. >> were member the 2006 example when george w. bush's numbers were just terrible. the iraq war was going terribly. the democrats were running to try to win back congress in

those midterms. a lot of democrats were talking about impeachment, but the public really didn't want it. nancy pelosi came out about this time of the year in 2006 and said impeachment is off the table. today, 71% of democrats in a recent poll said they want to see trump impeached if democrats take the house. the leaders know that. >> tucker: that's why it's so disingenuous to deny it. if you are running the president's legal team, and you should be, i would say, would you allow him to speak to anyone from robert mueller's investigation? >> that's a tough question, but i actually think that he should have taken the deal to go some time ago and sat down. i wrote a column months ago that said it's a good deal if they stick with the four categories that dowd and ty cobb negotiate negotiated. could you prepare the president for that? i think you could. i think that was the quickest way to defuse this. the question is really the end

game. if you basically defy the subpoena, i think that he will lose. the existing case law favors mueller and once he wins in that process you give him a court order where you can negotiate with him but he's in a much stronger position. he could demand and a court could very well go along with the conventional grand jury appearance. the question is what is the end game that you are trying to lay out? i personally believe the president -- people keep on saying he's going to be a disaster, he's going to burst into flames. i disagree with that. i've done a lot of depositions that were more complicated than this and i think you could prepare this president for this. >> trump has done a lot of depositions himself buried >> he has an experience on side. >> tucker: very precise people have gone to jail having fallen into perjury traps by experts. >> that's true. there's no question about it. there is no know-risk option. >> tucker: thank you both very

much. great to see you. joel joins us tonight. overly simple question. impeachment is a constitutional mechanism, there's nothing to be embarrassed about here as a factual matter if you think the president has committed crimes, he's demonstrably unfit to preside over the country and you just heard byron say 71% of democrats believe that, then why lie about it and say we are never going to impeach him when that's what you do to a president? >> after listening to that open, you almost convinced me that that was going on. that's not what's going on. democrats are not lying to cover up their desire to impeach the president. they are trying to find the truth as to what happened here. they're trying to get to the bottom of why this president and why his team and his inner circle have decided to cover up their engagement with the russian government. that's what this is about. >> tucker: engagement with the russian government? i hate to -- >> we know the members of the president's inner circle on the

campaign pleaded guilty or come up with plea deals. >> tucker: to what exactly, colluding with russia? none of them. i'm not defending nor what i ever defend paul manafort sleazy business dealings. that has nothing to do with colluding with the russian government. he was working for the ukrainian government, which is by the way a separate government. >> if you are comfortable with your president having a chair of his campaign that had that kind of interaction with that kind of person, great. go with that. >> tucker: i wouldn't be comfortable having dinner with paul manafort, personally. >> okay. >> tucker: is this a referendum on the moral character of paul manafort? i can see pleads guilty. but no. this is a question very specifically about whether or not officials in in the trump campaign colluded with the russian government. there's no evidence of that. this whole thing is a crock designed to do what impeachment is designed to do. >> listen to the conversation

you had with byron and jonathan and what's interesting to me is this. the president has not cooperated with this investigation at all. all we hear his tweet, tweet, tweet. i know you want to talk about the fact that the poll numbers are coming down on the mueller investigation. this president is running an opposition campaign against bob mueller for the last six months. if i spent six months leading you down and saying that tucker carlson -- >> tucker: pour bob mueller! >> tucker carlson likes to steal cars at night. i'm sure i could get a number of people to believe that. >> tucker: 's of the president's posture should be what? higher and exclusively democratic staff? whatever you do to me, you can take my campaign chairman with guns drawn and roused his wife out of bed. you can take admiral flynn on the basis of like no real crime and force him to plead guilty by threatening his son. i just have to stand there and be like that's totally cool, that's the rule of law. >> the president should be honest, you should be

forthright. by the way, your perjury traps. that sounds like to me, you are afraid of your client not being able to tell the truth. i'm not talking about you i'm saying the president's legal team. >> tucker: martha stewart, a threat to no one, under investigation by the same group of people, roughly speaking for insider trading. in the end she went to jail for not for insider trading but because she lied to federal agents. if you freelance a little bit if you go to jail, it happens all the sign. as a liberal i think it would be upset about that. >> i'm upset about the fact that we have a president we can't trust in front of a grand jury or in front of an investigative panel, that we can't trust that he can tell the truth to have a straightforward conversation. >> tucker: i don't know how many lawyers you know. i'm sincere, liberal, doesn't matter what their politics are, would you talk to the fbi if you weren't compelled to? not one of them will say yes because they are terrified of what we were just talking about, getting busted on a perjury

charge for misspeaking to a federal agent. >> you when i can agree on the fact that the president should be willing to go in front of the fbi until his honest to god story about what happened with this then we've got bigger problems here. if we can't trust our president do not perjure himself in front of bob mueller and his team, that's a problem. that's a problem for the president. >> tucker: do you think that martha stewart should have gone to prison? >> this is not about martha stewart. >> tucker: every american in the last ten years that i've been paying attention went to federal prison for perjury while speaking to a project on my federal agent. would you talk to the fbi? i'm serious. it's a sincere question. the fbi just that i've got a lot of questions for you. i'm not going to compel you, i just have to come in and talk, would you do it without a lawyer? >> of course he would do it with a lawyer. >> tucker: why? you were just telling the truth. >> you are deflecting the issue. if you want to talk about martha stewart we can get martha. >> tucker: never speak to the

fbi in which you have to. >> deal. >> tucker: stormy daniels saga proves the president and his cronies they say are predatory criminals. okay, but if there is a crime here, what is the crime here and who was the victim of a? you hear about the story of a single day but nobody ever asked that, we are going to next with mark steyn. stay tuned. ressure? you won't find relief here. go to the pharmacy counter for powerful claritin-d. while the leading allergy spray relieves 6 symptoms... claritin-d relieves 8, including sinus congestion and pressure. claritin-d relieves more. do ndo not misjudgenity quiet tranquility. with the power of 335 turbo-charged horses

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for that. i know you don't believe in climate change but a storm is coming, baby. >> tucker: stormy channels, climate activist. everything is inevitable. she was deeply traumatized by her alleged relationship with the president and the 130 grand she got afterwards. so traumatized that she decided to relive it on saturday night live on saturday in case you missed it. at this point millions of dollars have been spent investigating the stormy daniels story. cnn has turned its entire daytime schedule over to duke determine the details. allegedly investigators are on the hunt for a crime but if there was a crime, what was it exactly and more to the point, who was the victim of this crim crime? a lawyer who has advised both of hillary clinton's presidential campaigns. thanks for coming on. >> of course. >> tucker: prerequisite for a crime is a victim. who was the victim this crime? >> in terms of the criminal law, it appears that the trump

campaign, whether it's he himself or michael cohen or somebody else engaged in campaign finance violations, probably banking violations. when you basically make a contribution -- the notion that this was done to resolve a family issue is preposterous. this affair happened in 2006. and then all these women came out. let me say this one thing, all of these women came out of the woodwork. he admitting to grabbing people by the genitals and to say only a week or two before the election that this was needed to spare donald trump's family for trauma of having to open up to what happened between him and stormy daniels. is preposterous. >> tucker: wears the victim here? it's a sincere question. >> the american public is a victim. >> tucker: here you have donald trump accused of sleeping -- even if the allegations are true he slept with this woman once, she says. so if that happened. >> he did not, of course. >> tucker: she got paid according to her 130 grand, kind of a lot for that.

is she victim do you think? she and her lawyer going on television aggrieved, wouldn't that really be kind of extortion though? sincere question. >> it's not extortion. >> tucker: later one of them says in order not to tell anybody about that you need to pay me money, what would that be called? >> he's trying to enforce an agreement which she says and her lawyer says is not enforceable because he didn't sign it. there is usually two parties to a contract. >> tucker: the agreement itself, if you and i engage in voluntary behavior together, like we drink a 12 pack when we are not supposed to. i'm going to tell people about that unless you pay me money and i do, you are extorting me. >> he had a contract which he didn't sign so they didn't have a contract. >> tucker: the allegation is he paid her money which he apparently did through his lawyer in order that she wouldn't talk about this thing that she says happened. this is a sincere question. i know you are not allowed to ask this on cnn -- i guess i don't know why. #metoo or something. a real question, why is that not

extortion? >> it was the american public that was denied justice here because had they known the facts before the election, one of these suburban women who seem to be peeling away from donald trump in real time, they may have actually changed. >> tucker: really quick because i want to take what you are saying seriously. describe the voter who voted for trump in november of 2016 who would have been shocked to learn that he had had a one-day relationship with an actress and paid her not to talk. >> one month after his wife had given birth and that he paid $130,000 to cover up -- i think even for the suburban women who didn't like hillary clinton, who went to donald trump because they were willing to roll the dice. even for them, and i think it's happening in real time today. too far. >> tucker: even after like 115 howard stern programs where he bragged about adultery, even after 35 years in the public eye were his marriages disintegrated on the front page of the post. even after the access hollywood

tape. there were enough of them out there who would have been so stunned, that doesn't sound like the trump i know. are you saying this seriously? >> suburban women were not listening to howard stern. they were listening to what donald trump was saying and he denied it. who here in your audience thinks that donald trump is telling the truth about this. is there a soul. at one person out there who thinks he is truth? >> tucker: i'm assuming -- i always thought that kind of thing -- what i'm assuming is that people voted for trump because the people in charge had so mismanaged the country, wrecking the economy want, watching the middle-class die. they wanted something different and they voted for trump despite his personal though my personal life. that's what i thought. >> the concern is how will we know when he's telling the truth about things that matter because we know he's lying about this? >> tucker: when he said the people in charge, i would include jeb bush and everybody in the democratic field are complicit in wrecking the country and we want something

new. that's with the election was about. did you miss that part? >> i think the next election will be do you want your child to grow up to be like donald trump? that's what the next election is going to be about. you've asked me that question over and over. >> tucker: or eric schneiderman, who we are going to talk about next. >> please do. he's not president. >> tucker: the cast the first stone contest. stormy daniels lawyer has spent weeks on television, looks more like poor pro wrestling and wiring, you decide. >> mr. trump will not serve out his term, no way, no how. >> lawyers don't normally do talk shows. >> i'm not your normal lawyer i guess. >> every statement i've made, every prediction has come true. >> the only out that the president will have, the only out will be to resign the office. >> this is not a publicity stunt. this is serious business. >> we are going to continue to use the media.

i think we've used it with great success. >> tucker: [laughs] mark steyn is an author and columnist and he joins us tonight. i'm still in the question don't my quest to get my one question answered, this crime, who was the victim of a? >> i would have to disagree i think with richard slightly because if anybody is, it's the president. the only crime that's going on here is blackmail. this woman and trump engaged in an act that i would not have wanted to engage in with her but it was consensual and she threatened to talk about it. they signed a nondisclosure agreement for 130 grand. one of the stupid things about nondisclosure agreements is that if one party breaks it, then in order to demonstrate that they've breached the nondisclosure agreement you have to disclose it yourself. so they are fairly pointless and

stupid things. but in fact, this woman -- i mean that as a semiserious point here because this story is a lot of things, but it's not a crime and when you look at this guy going on talk shows, he's brilliant. he plays a good sleazy bomb lawyer on tv, but he doesn't actually have a case in the courtroom because the only people who are committing any crime here are the two shakedown artists which is stormy and her lawyer. >> tucker: i don't have strong feelings about any part of this case, that's why it took me until yesterday to realize wait a second, why is nobody saying that? it such an obvious point. she got 130 grand, why does that make her a hero? that doesn't seem like the kind of behavior that we would be in favor of. >> she's an aging star, which is not a good thing to be.

haven't seen any of her motion picture roles. >> tucker: i haven't either. >> on "saturday night live" when she delivered that line that they are known for their acting, she actually delivered it totally wouldn't me so that even by those standards she seemed to be a fairly wooden actress. >> tucker: very meta. >> yes, it is. and evidently she needs the money. to go back to what you were talking about with richard, my view of trump is that people chose him in the nominating process because he had done everything. mitt romney was the worst guy on the planet because he gave a wedgy to a kid in grade three if you recall and he put a dog on his roof and drove the dog to canada. people picked trump this time because they know if you ever drove a doctor canada he would give him a wedgy every half mile up i-95. so people assume that trump has done everything and it is baked in the cake. >> tucker: may be the election

wasn't really a referendum on trump's personal life or his moral standing. maybe there were other issues that voters were trying to get our attention on, get us to pay attention to and we are not. >> i think if you live in a broken down town where the mill is closed and your daughter has got nothing to do except the night shift and she's dating a heroin dealer you are not actually voting for trump because he is the perfect gentleman. if you're voting for trump because everything else you voted for in the last 20 years has failed you. >> tucker: that is absolutely right. leads us to our next segment because we really are going to continue trying to talk about the issues that this is all about, and it's not stormy. thank you, great to see you. >> thanks a lot, tucker. >> tucker: mexico shifts more drugs into this country than any other country. heroin, primarily, but also cocaine, methamphetamine,

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a well sourced new yorker piece says that for women claim schneiderman may be the worst abuser of them all. two of the accusers have made their allegations publicly. they say schneiderman hit, slapped and choked them. both say he threatened to kill them, like a lunatic. once that he warned he could have her followed and tapped her phone if she defied him. obviously these are just allegations. schneiderman has denied them, but if they are true one person will certainly be vindicated. president trump tweeted this in 2013 with remarkable, almost spooky prescience. next will be lightweight ag eric schneiderman. is he a croak? wait and see. worse than spitzer or weiner. either he is amazingly lucky on twitter or you should ask the president what numbers to pick in the lotto tomorrow. every year at the government of mexico gets a huge pile of cash from the u.s. government and a

2016 it was $181 million. the year before that was 338 million. just send it over there. what do we get in return for that money? mexico hasn't done anything to stop illegal immigration. actually they abet it. that's not the only problem. mexico is the biggest source of heroin brought into the united states, an epidemic killing tens of thousands every year. also a massive supplier of methamphetamine, cocaine and every narcotic you can imagine. why are we subsidizing this? christina hagan is making a run for congress. she wants to know what the point of our foreign aid to mexico is considering a drug crisis. joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. i appreciate that. >> absolutely. >> tucker: what's your proposition here? that we should stop foreign aid to mexico? >> i think that we are in a position, especially in ohio where the heroin and opioid epidemic has completely overwhelmed our communities. and in less we had mexico right in their pocketbook we are going

to continue to see these drug lords trafficking into our communities. 90% of opioids are coming directly from mexico so unless we make them take it seriously they are never going to. >> tucker: i've interviewed countless immigration advocates who say the same thing every time, which is it's a demand problem. the appetite for drugs of american drug users is basically pulling heroin across our southern border into the u.s., it's our fault, we are the cause of this crisis. >> i look at it as we need to make it less economic for their drug lords to traffic these drugs into our united states and if we have a border wall that creates an immediate problem to them providing the supply to the united states. we are throwing all types of dollars at this in a state of ohio. our law enforcement is involved, our educators are involved. every front is working on this. i think that we can no longer be on defense, we have to go on offense. building a wall makes sense, stopping the foreign aid that we

currently give them. their government will take it seriously when we make them take it seriously. i just think it's not necessarily only supply and demand, it's what we allow for the mexican government to get away with. we've allowed for them to not take their drug lords and their drug cartels seriously and they even allow south america, central america to continue to funnel people into the united states that are harming our communities and our families and we have to take a strong americans-first stance. >> tucker: when you pump it in and of our attic to get in they lose their capacity for free will, they can't make clear decisions. the supply and demand argument is insane. pick a country, malaysia, how would we do it if they were sending millions of people across the border illegally on the taxing social services and then sending narcotics in or killing tens of thousands of people a year. would we see them as a close ally if they were doing that? >> absolutely not. as a congresswoman i will take

this seriously. i will lead on this issue because i know american lives are being lost in the mexican government is doing absolutely nothing to stop it from happening. we have to stop the foreign aid of over $320 million a year going to them. the fact that there are communities and their economy is thriving because they have legal and illegal immigrants coming to the united states and setting up an economic basis to provide for their families while our families are being crushed by the opioid abuse tells me we need to take this seriously, we need to be tough on them. we need to stop all foreign aid immediately. this is ludicrous. >> tucker: and stop feeling guilty for criticizing a country that is hurting us. thank you very much for coming on. >> absolutely. thank you. >> tucker: last year they came for several more statures. now the mob demands more. george washington university students say america's colonial period must be purged from memory too. it's confusing, but we will try to explain it to you after the break. ♪

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♪ >> tucker: colleges are completely insane, you know that. it's hard to shock you with these stories that we found one that might. a student at university here in washington have started a petition demanding the school abolish the nickname colonials for its sports team. the nickname honors the soldiers of the american revolution, who needless to say fought against colonialism, but according to petition the nickname "glorifies the act of systemic oppression." history evidently not the strong suit over there. in march, filmmaker visited gw and spent three hours asking kids whether the name of the school itself should change. most said yes. here's a selection. >> do you think we should consider changing the name of the university? >> i think it's definitely worth having a discussion about it. personally i would change the

name. >> i think that it should be changed. i think recognition is super important. >> recognition of? >> of who he was as a person. >> do you think it's time to change the name of the university? >> absolutely not. should we do it? >> sure. >> we sort of retrospectively mythologized with this concept of liberty and freedom. >> is not saying he was an important back then, it's just not as important in this day and age. >> what's the first thing that comes to mind? >> tucker: professor of accra varick and american studies at the university of maryland and he joins us tonight. after watching that shape, tape, i'm for changing the name. overpriced and silly university is what it is. i guess what i love about this story, the colonials, is that the kids there are so dumb that they think the term is glorifying colonialism one of course it's glorifying the soldiers who fought against

colonialism, but that distinction, that all important distinction. >> you could see why that would be an issue. why not have a name like the revolutionary or the independence or the 76ers or the patriots. something that actually seems to make more sense than the colonials and you are talking about people that fought against -- or even the continentals. as we know, george washington fought for the continental army. >> tucker: that's true. what you are saying is the kids there are so dumb and so high on the legalized wheat here in d.c. that they can't be bothered to wikipedia the term to learn what it means? instead they get all mad, angry college student. >> kids at gw are far from stupid. >> tucker: i taught there for a semester and i really liked the kids. >> do you think they are stupid? >> tucker: it was 15 years ago. it's always the dumb ones who get all the publicity. there are some impressive kids

at gw. the kids at this are like drooling morons. you are against the name because you are against colonialism but the colonials in the name were fighting colonialism? >> do you think george washington would want to be called colonial? would want to be called maybe continentals or have his name associated with independence, have his name associated with freedom. >> tucker: he's not here to fill us in on any of the nuances, but i can say for fairly certain i think you might be honored that they named the school in the city after him. one of the most expensive schools in the country. although rich rich kids are like we got to change the name of the school because it's embarrassing. >> you can have an aau basketball team and they will call them the liberals because you fought against the liberals we will just call them the liberals. it doesn't make sense. >> tucker: not to this extent. i'm no american history professor but the colonial

period refers to the time in which the revolutionary war was fought because this was of course a colony before it was a country. it's kind of a broad term that anybody who has even been awake in sixth grade would know about, except apparently the kids behind the petition. >> george washington, again. he fought in the colonial army for the british at one point. but the problem is this. i think you would want to be attached to the period following colonialism, the period when he actually -- after the constitution, when we were free. >> tucker: what percentage of kids who were signing this -- what percentage of the kids were signing this could name the century that the american revolution took place? >> i think 100%. >> tucker: you think 100%? >> i think 100%. >> tucker: would you be willing to bet cash money on that? >> i don't make tucker carlson money.

>> tucker: i bet you that not over 40% of the gw kids who signed this could tell you what century the american revolution was fought in. i bet not 20% could tell you the years of the civil war. i bet they are totally ignorant of everything and happy in their ignorance. isn't that the headline? >> i disagree. i teach college students all the time. i think that there sometimes can be a gap in knowledge but a lot of these kids -- i think we are way too hard on some of these young kids. they know a lot more than people are giving them credit. >> tucker: when my iphone breaks i corralled one of them and say how does this work? download the software, i don't know how to do it. they are geniuses, but if they are attacking the colonials because they think it's colonialism, they are done. i know i'm being mean, i can't control myself. it's great to see you. >> it's always fun, tucker. thanks. >> tucker: the number of illegal immigrants in the u.k. has surged past 1 million. keep in mind the u.k. is an island. it's pretty small. so is it no more vibrant and

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that violent crime went up 18% in san francisco. in la, mayor antonio villaraigosa put more police on the streets and cut violent crime in half. california's police chiefs trust antonio for governor. ♪ >> tucker: british foreign secretary boris johnson is in washington today, he's urging the trump administration not to pull out of the nuclear deal with iran. tensions with iran are not britain's only form problem. recently british members of parliament were told by a former government official that the countries illegal immigrant population has surged past 1 million on the island. that's more than double the total just 12 years ago. nigel faraj is a former leader of the u.k. independence barter. joins us tonight. thank for coming on. you are one person whose foreign policy instance i trust. let me just ask you point-blank.

i understand why the president doesn't like the iran deal, that deal negotiated by bad negotiators, but if we do pull out does it increase, do you think, the chances that the united states winds up in armed conflict with iran? >> i don't think it does. boris johnson is there in d.c. he's not just representing the united kingdom. he is representing the european union. the iran nuclear deal was a globalist deal. a form of appeasement, if you like. if you believe what the prime minister of israel is telling us, the iranians are breaking the deal anyway. better frankly to be straight about this, to cut the deal. i think trump is doing the right thing on this. i do not believe that boris johnson will change his mind. does that make conflict inevitable? of course it doesn't. >> tucker: that's reassuring. does a million illegal immigrants in the u.k. make some kind of civil conflict inevitable there?

it's a small place. >> i tell you what it does do, it makes a conflict between voters and politicians very inevitable. the figure is not a million. the figure is at least 2 million. the 1 million figure was being talked about. those that have been here for more than ten years. we are back to boris johnson. boris johnson is proposing that we have an amnesty for at least 700,000 of them. if we do that we send out a signal to the whole world that britain is a soft touch. get a visa, come here, overstay your visa and nobody will do anything about it. and all this does, it adds to the size of the illegal economy. so many people here illegally don't pay tax. so many here illegally because of their status get dragged into criminality or other bad things in society and it's all well and good for boris and people like that.

they say we mustn't talk tough on immigration, it will make us look nasty. let me tell you, recent pull out last week, 71% of british people want the government to get rid of people here illegally. there's a massive gap here between westminster and the real country. >> tucker: i read the other day, i don't know if this can be true or is true, this. that great britain has taken in more immigrants in the last 40 years then came to england between 1960 and 1066, the norman invasion. that's true? >> you are absolutely right. it's absolutely right. the slight exception post-1945, quite a lot of polish people and people displaced from europe, but without exception you are absolutely right. we were taking in in a five-year period more people that had come in the previous thousand years. that is the extent to which immigration, both legal and

illegal, has been completely out of control. tony blair started all of this. he wanted to fundamentally change the shape of our country. he succeeded and sadly conservatism in this country has not had the courage to stand up and say this is wrong. anybody here that talks about immigration -- i did for years. one of the main reasons we voted to exit was to get back control of our borders and get standing up and fighting for that, i've been demonized and most people are scared of being put in that position. i have to say in many ways you are very lucky in america. you've got a president who doesn't care what the liberal media says and stands up and fights for the right things. >> tucker: no one ever asked for this. this is a democracy. thank you, it's great to see you. >> thank you. >> tucker: southwest airlines had the accident and the airlines a few weeks ago but even when it's on the ground its flights appear to be coming close to catastrophe. we will explain what happened

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make more of what's yours. >> tucker: a lot of great things about sout west airlines but it has been a bad month you have to say. three weeks ago a woman was killed when engine explosion broke a window an sucked her partly outside the plane. then last week another cracked window forced an emergency landing in cleveland. you think things would be better on ground obviously, but not that much better. southwest flight landed safely at baltimore this morning only to get rammed by one of southwest's own trucks. how do you even do that? it's not clear. fortunately, no one was hurt and fortunately for southwest investors it's not the only airline having scares. sunday a jetblue flight had to divert to fort lauderdale after windshield cracked. you pray this is not a sign of something bigger. flakiness infecting society. probably not. but it's always good to be on the lookout for those signs because they can sneak up on

you. that's it for us. thank you for a great this hour. we will be back tomorrow and every night at 8:00. the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity. you know who is next? great sean hannity from new york. >> sean: great show as always. welcome to "hannity." this is an amazing news night. we will tell you and break it all down. we have a lot to cover. the nuclear deal with iran, well, that now weighs in the balance. we will have an answer tomorrow. the president set to decide the fate of this very flawed, highly irresponsible agreement. now, john kerry, the former secretary of state is waging a sketchy, unauthorized, illegitimate campaign in order to save this reckless deal he was in part responsible for negotiating. is he violating the law? the logan act? we'll investigate. also we will call out kerry's shadow diplomacy and show you just why this obama era nuclear deal puts the united states and our allies i