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having me. i'm wearing jeans, i'm either ready for "outnumbered" or church. >> harris: some people like to to. welcome. let's get to the news. we are awaiting an announcement from president trump as i mentioned on the iran nuclear deal. he says this afternoon, he will reveal his decision on whether the u.s. will remain in that agreement. the campaign promising to pull out of it and has called the deal insane. the world is watching to see what he does. iran's vice president said is the head of the announcement only the naive would now negotiate with the u.s. the president's announcement comes after a series of recent visits from european leaders urging him to stay in the deal and after republican chairman of the house armed services committee mac thornberry suggested, he delayed the may 12 deadline for making the decision. today, congressman thornberry suggested the president may choose a third option. >> i assume that he will at least withdraw from part of it,

but that's why i say the question is how much of it. there's a range of options here. if you can either say all the way in, get all the way out, or a whole lot of in between and that's what none of us know. >> harris: kevin corke's life for us at the white house. kevin. >> good afternoon. you'd be hard-pressed to find just about anyone doesn't believe the president will ultimately pull out of the iran nuclear deal. if not in a hole, certainly in part this afternoon when he makes an announcement. at about 2:00 this afternoon and he can be unpredictable. he has pointed out to a chorus of calls for the u.s. to stay in and strengthen the accord, notably from the leaders of france and germany. in fact, fox news has been reporting this morning he spoke by telephone again with president macron of france just today, but while the number of world leaders and stakeholders have been asking and pleading with the president reconsider his plans to pull out, white house officials remain steadfast in their belief that the iranian leadership simply

haven't lived up to their end of the bargain. and that has consequences. >> one of the concerns and the fact is that there's been limitations on the ability to actually do inspections into iran onto the nuclear sites. but i think again, if they were biting by the spirit of the deal, they wouldn't be targeting innocent civilians, funding terrorism across the middle east, continuing to send intercontinental ballistic missiles to rebels that are fighting against our allies. >> earlier, here on fox news in this very spot. meanwhile, in tehran, they are insisting. the battle he lived up to the deal, they say any decision by the u.s. to void the agreement would be met with even more production within their nuclear program. about which president trump famously said this. >> it won't be so easy for them to restart.

they're not going to be restarting anything. they were started, they're going to have big problems, bigger than they've ever had before and you could market down. they restart their nuclear program, they will have bigger problems than they have ever had before. thank you very much. >> you heard him say it, mark it down, bigger problems than they have ever had before. it will be watching very carefully for the nuance of the language as the president makes his announcement. shortly after 2:00 this afternoon, we will have live coverage for you here on fox news but for now, back to you. >> harris: kevin corke, thank you very much. it's interesting that just a few hours ago, iran had another twist in their response and that is maybe we would stay in the deal depending on what could be worked out. >> gianno: they know the economic sanctions would completely stifle them. companies that do business with the u.s., they wouldn't be able to do that business with iran anymore. i think the president has been very clear when it comes to this deal. he's called us stupid and he said the folks who negotiated it

were stupid, didn't address the ballistic missiles program, it didn't prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons permanently, and that's been an issue and it doesn't address the wars in syria and yemen that iran has been involved in an actively participating in. for the president to believe he's going to stick with this deal as is would not of the president and his strategies because he's been quite clear on this. i think what he really should do is have a long-range plan where he allows for those that are involved currently to come to the table and try to come up with a better solution. >> harris: can i ask it is a quick question about that before we open up wider to the couch? so that has been offered up not by democrats, but may be talking about look at it look like down the road if you give everybody a chance to diplomatically get together and those other countries. are you talking about a delay or does the president do what he has to do today for the door to come open back in a few weeks, how would you see it?

>> gianno: i think the president will leave the door open. i absolutely do believe that he would leave the door open for those coming to the table. at this point, the president has all the power. if they're out of the deal, a lot of folks would pull out as well. >> harris: do you think that's the case? we know from reporting, we knew when france and germany and their leadership was here last week at the president was talking with the leaders about the iran deal. >> jessica: i agree with gianna here. i think leaving the door open and taking a delay, not saying we're going out and them in a amorphous place for god knows how long will be as approach. now that he has a team that is firmly on the same side of him vis-a-vis the orion deal with pompeo and john bolton that he is much more emboldened to be doing this to be taking that kind of action and it will be interesting to see what kind of proposals the french team and the german team actually can come up with to adequately address the missiles and whatever violation the iranians

could make in the future. we know they haven't violated the deal thus far but down the road, we do. >> katie: line into the deal is a violation of the deal. >> jessica: is something that all parties had accepted. >> katie: they didn't know that they had plans for nuclear weapons. >> jessica: what he presented last week was not new information. >> katie: yes it was. lying of their way into the deal is a violation of the deal. they said from the beginning they're not interested in building a nuclear weapon. we now know that they not only plan to do it but they also held onto their nuclear program when the sunset clause went into effect, they start developing those weapons. that is a violation going into the deal not only of good faith but also of the parameters of the deal. it's also important to point out that if he decides to leave the deal, he's not going to get out there and just leave the united states of america or the world in alert. he's going to have options on the table.

which is important. but again, this is not just about the nuclear agreement. this is about iran's overall behavior. as will the operating, has below targeting americans and is about iran's influence not pulled back as a result of this agreement. >> harris: by the way, the violent language towards israel in recent days from iran saying that they are retaliating from something that israel has denied taking part in, that violent language has now garnered reports of has below getting more involved in whatever iran's plans would be. that is problematic. so perhaps, the president would do something like get out of certain parts of the deal and say we need to renegotiate these certain parts. >> rachel: it's interesting that in a city full of leaks, we don't know what he's doing. >> harris: he tweeted what was happening. he doesn't have to leak anythin anything. >> rachel: what's interesting

is, the president right now has maximum leverage. he brought up great points. the way the international global financial system works is you cannot do business with new york city in those spaces. so the iranians know that he has great leverage. he also has a great relationship with emmanuel macron. during his visit, he said we could maybe do a different deal. that's what i call this morning was about. >> katie: the europeans are looking at this from a business perspective. look at the money. they're looking at it from a safety and terrorism perspective when they're right next door so as they're saying we should stay in, they have a financial incentive to be doing business with iran and they're going to have to make a choice about who is more important to them. >> harris: certainly we saw that number north of 5 billion in terms of germany and their business with iran right now which means it is use say more complicated. let's stay on the subject and do it this way. president trump is blasting former secretary of state john kerry again today. this effort was revealed that

john kerry has been meeting with iran's foreign minister among others in an effort to save the nuclear deal that he helped negotiate. president trump tweeted this today. "john kerry can't get over the fact that he had his chance and blew it. stay away from negotiations, john. you are hurting your country." white house press secretary sarah sanders waited as well. >> i don't think we would take advice from someone who created by the president seems to be one of the worst deals ever made. i'm not sure i would restart listening to him now. >> harris: it's interesting because when we hear of our people like anybody going over to a foreign country, can you imagine people sitting down with kim jong un at this point and try to talk to him? >> gianno: and dennis rodman. >> harris: what i've heard is step on diplomacy is something that really doesn't look that positively. >> gianno: there's been a lot

of talk about him violating the logan act. i don't think he would do that. he's going to be very careful not to you. what i do believe he would do is go to these other countries come as you know he's been meeting with presidents of other countries and given them insight as to how we do things. almost like a consultant and saying if the president does x come of this is you should do to counter. and president trump has is called him stupid repeatedly for negotiating the steel, he does have an x to grind and with that and being the case, he has more incentive to try to save face and save the deal. >> harris: you when i talk about legacy because that's part of politics and you have a politician in your household. so i'm curious to know what those conversations with representative sean duffy, your husband have been like around this issue. it >> rachel: i will say this because legacy is so important. if you saw the document or that came out on the last 12 months of the obama administration, that administration was obsessed with their legacy, what looked like a failure, and if you watch

it and you voted for donald trump, you might even feel better about your vote after watching this documentary. they are obsessed with this and john kerry might be offended by him calling him stupid but if you look at what they were doing in their mind-set, you would agree with sarah sanders completely. why would we want to follow the advice of john kerry who has been wrong on so many things? not just in the obama years but even long before that he is made bad calls. >> harris: you and i have talked about the side deal of the thing of the american people have never seen with regards to the iran agreement. perhaps we are on the verge of maybe even finding out more information. isn't that worth pushing the deadline for pushing back on this for democrats? >> jessica: i think so absolutely. pushing the deadline is a nice middle ground between the two positions. people who want to preserve the deal but to accept the fact that we need better terms and those who completely want to mix it because i don't think there's anyone right now out there with a viable new option. saying here's a new complete

deal that will satisfy. >> harris: adding shifts last night wanted yesterday wanted to see some of the intelligence around what happens if we recertify the iran deal. >> jessica: since president trump's inauguration, that should have been what they were doing because this is something he was talking about on the campaign trail almost as much as a southern border wall. this isn't a surprise and we don't know everything that's going on and this is something that democrats who are trying to preserve the deal as a legacy item, this is john kerry's obamacare. if you look at it. president obama will have the health care law and he has the iran deal and looks like it's going away. space you the truth is, the president has actually push this off for a year and a half so thp said he was going to do when he first got into office, he's been in office for year and a half now, they've had those deadlines and in january, he specifically called on congress to get involved and he called

them the europeans to come to the table now in may with options about how to make this work. if they've been in town for the last couple of weeks, but it seems like based on what we know so far, they haven't made a compelling statement. >> harris: that's so candid what you're saying about the people on the left. i haven't heard that conversation about what they could have been doing but when i read that house until, the leadership of the democrats on the committee just now asking and maybe he had before it was just being reported, but wanted to see what would it look like necessarily if we did something different with regard to iran? i'm thinking that such a year ago conversation. >> jessica: listening to people like condoleezza rice who was here last week and this isn't going to be the end of the world if we pull out, that doesn't trigger people to start think about this reality. and it's been a year and a half and that doesn't give the president a lot of leverage to say i hate the deal but i also want to make sure i'm listening to the other parties, part of an international committee so he does get to rail against.

>> rachel: this is the same regime that continues throughout the deal, inherently they don't know in the international community, they look at this regime and go why should we trust these people? >> harris: what we do know for sure is in a couple of hours, 2:00 p.m. eastern we are told to expect the president to make this decision on what he will do, certify or not recertify the iran deal. we will carry it live right here on fox news channel. some of the president's critics in the media are now taking aim at first lady melania trump after she announced her effort to battle cyber bullies and improve the lives of children. as the criticism fair? we will talk about it. today, gina haspel is back on capitol hill and a powerful democrat senator may be causing new trouble for president trump's pick for cia director. and we will show you where critics are now saying about her role in the interrogation of suspected terrorists.

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xfinity. the future of awesome. >> katie: fox news alert, new signs democrats in the senate may be causing trouble for president trump's nominee for cia director gina haspel. she was back on capitol hill today meeting with lawmakers ahead of her senate confirmation meeting tomorrow. democrats are demanding of the administration be classifying more information regarding her role in the cia's interrogation of alleged terrorists after 9/11. he was one democrat on the senate intelligence committee saying more information must be revealed before she is confirme confirmed. >> if this is allowed to go forward as what i have called a secret confirmation process, it sure as heck won't be the last one. we will see plenty of others. >> katie: earlier, president trump tweeting "gina haspel, my highly respected nominee to leave the cia is being praised for the fact that she has been and always will be

tough on terror. this is a woman who has been a leader wherever she has gone, the cia wants her to leave them into america's brightest and glorious future." so it seems to me that she is the most qualified candidate for cia director that we've ever seen considering she's been in leadership had also been on the ground working with the rank and file agents cia. >> gianno: i know a lot of people that have made comments of the most qualified woman but most qualified person and i really appreciate that fact. it's interesting we think of the timber program and what happened with the interrogation. i think back to when 9/11 happened, when i was a freshman in high school in chicago. how we all felt when we saw that plane hit that tower. when we saw the second one which i thought it was the video of the first one and know that we were really under attack, everyone was afraid. all of us were scared and concerned. if we wanted to see something happen so instead of us badmouthing her and trying to bash her, we should be giving

her her thanks for serving our country honorably. i know there was some things that came out later on, but when you're a soldier in the fight, do you blame them for the strategy in which it was handed down, you absolutely don't. you congratulate them on doing the work in which they were ordered to do. in this case, that should be how we approach her. >> katie: there have been a number of internal cia reports who have cleared her of any wrongdoing saying she didn't order any of the interrogations, she was in play following orders and at the time, it was deemed illegal by congress. so it wasn't until later so the question is why now does this become a political fight? >> rachel: there were democrats like her a lot more about the resistance and they care about our national security. i would say that my sister was a case officer and the kindest and service and one thing that happened after george bush and when obama came in is that human intelligence collection which is the stuff that case officers do, not analysts, the kind of equated that great of so there

was in the emasculating of the collection of human intelligence within the cia. so that something that gina haspel was very much against and there's a reason why pompeo picked her as a deputy and also i don't think we should underestimate the importance of having someone at the top of the cia who worked so closely with the secretary of state. i think there's a lot of really great reasons to pick her, i think democrats are saying we support women as long as they're liberal. >> katie: speaking of people in charge who have praised gina haspel, but to play the sound bite from former cia director over the weekend. >> gina haspel is the one woman i want in that room when everybody else would be going into north-south and saying you're right, gina haspel won't. absolutely not. >> katie: he seems to be saying that she will be a check on the administration which

democrats seem like they would want someone like that. >> jessica: they make the same point as well, this is actually a bipartisan issue in support of her from the intelligence community. i take about 15% of your point which is a record for us. there are some democrats that are out there for resistance purposes but i think this is also part of a larger conversation about a societal shift that we've had about our attitude towards interrogation and those techniques. and you're completely right, i was a senior in high school so i feel a little ancient on 9/11 and i grew up in downtown manhattan and was evacuated from my home. it is something that is ever present for us when we are in the city but in the country generally. i think it's important to hold onto that. but the conversation that we will be having during her hearing tomorrow i think is an important one. the numbers are not on the democrat side here. and that's always underlying all of this. so if we can expose more information and we can have more productive conversation about

how we do these things, that's all a net positive for us. i don't think this is a gender issue whatsoever. i think if it was -- there were concerns about mike pompeo because he was a fan of interrogation techniques and we all remember general matta saying i do better with a six-pack in a pack of cigarette cigarettes. i think we do need to move it back from the partisan side of this and talk about the real issue here. >> katie: i want to bring it back to 9/11 because the work that gina haspel has dedicated her life too is about keeping america safe and she has now been praised by people in positions of the cia went across the government but also been praised by 9/11 families who lost people in those towers and at the pentagon. >> harris: that means that republicans have to step up in that hearing they have to ask the kinds of questions that show her history with regard to that. but it's equally as important that we do get all the information that we can about something that as a country we have agreed upon we don't want to return to the road of those types of techniques. just to point out what happened

yesterday and last evening and was happening today that so important, she's walking into the fold on capitol hill. she's not a politician and this is something that we have seen candidates to across-the-board, across administrations but this is a hostile work environment for her in a way because we have made a cultural difference in decision about what her job was. your soldier, that was important, he was fourth in command. he was much closer to the top when these issues were talked about. she was much farther down the food line. so if we can get any information, i think it's helpful. but we've got to be fair about how we do it now we've got to not make it about any other issues of national security. so if liberals care that much about women, then care about the ones that you don't agree with. >> gianno: and the fact that she isn't political at all as a benefit. >> harris: she went to the hill, she's back on the the hil today, there are reports that you might consider withdrawing earlier in the week. but she didn't. and she standing in the fold.

so let's ask every question we can. i haven't talked to a democrat yet who thinks she will not be confirmed. if they say she will because it got the numbers. but they also have the support because they realize how important it is to have somebody in the know at the top as well. >> rachel: someone who understands the importance of human intelligence. so much what we need to do to combat the terrorists has to be done with human intelligence, so she is somebody who has fought that battle within the agency. she is a champion for it. that's important. also, shame on rand paul for not supporting. this is evident. i just want to piggyback on that and say to gianna's point about the president that this could set about people who have served in the armed services and service community going on that something that you did because you were told to 20 years ago to come back and make it impossible for you to have a new job to run for office. >> harris: whenever anybody serves whether the military because you are orders anywhere

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>> harris: stay glued to your tv or mobile devices we are waiting for an announcement from president trump on the iran nuclear deal. he is preparing to tell the world whether he will follow through on his threat to withdraw from that agreement. no signs have emerged yet indicating his european allies or ours were able to convince him last week to stay in that deal. iran's vice president said it is ready for any scenario, by adding that only the naive would renegotiate with the united states. the naive come is that how you would put a? >> rachel: possibly, crackdown at the border. a stern warning to those who enter the west illegally from attorney general jeff sessions. the nation's top law enforcement i should bring a zero-tolerance policy including biased asylum-seekers even if it's the subfamilies. watch this. >> i have put in place a zero tolerance policy for illegal entry on our southwest border. if you cross the border

unlawfully, we will prosecute you. it's that simple. if you smuggle illegal aliens across our border, then we will prosecute you. if you are smuggling the child, then we will prosecute you. and that child may be separated from you as required by law. >> rachel: sessions announcements come as a border patrol reports a search and border crossing. i have a advocacy group are blasting it as cruel. at discouraging migrants from smuggling children across the border which is extremely dangerous. so we'll go to you first. is this cruel or is is a way to dis- incentivize parents from bringing their kids? >> katie: i went to take apart the ripping apart families arguments. it is not a good thing that families get taken apart when the laws broken. but guess what? there are millions of american families whose families have been ripped apart because someone in their family broke

the law and went to prison. it's no different. you break the law, their consequences, this is no different. when it comes to them cracking down on human smuggling, i've always said that open borders are inhumane borders because people to take advantage of these children, these mothers were bringing them to mexico up from honduras for salvador from other countries there, they are not good people. they are abusing them, i know the president has caught heat for that. it is a fact, it is true. they have done a number of studies on this, documented this. the law is there to protect people not only the united states and illegal immigration but also from those who are traveling here from being abused by human traffickers. >> rachel: is katie right about that? >> jessica: she's right about the statistics and i can't disagree with that. "the new york times" just reported that since october, 700 children have been separated from their families and immigration tassels. >> rachel: when katie says as happens to prisoners here in the united states as well.

>> jessica: there seems to be an out clause for crimes committed to get a better life. so people are going to prison in america, not everybody gets three strikes and all that but the ideas that you murder someone in the u.s., you commit a crime and deserve to go to prison, the people who are defending the illegal immigrants here would say that's a little bit different. this is a crime of love as it were to get a better life for you and your family and they are escaping extremely bad circumstances. i'm sure i will be called a bleeding heart liberal for saying that but i'm incredibly conflicted about this because it is so dangerous to make this journey. the stakes are so high and they are running from a life that is so terrible and we as a nation are open and embracing of those who are in search of a better life, but there are legal protocols and we have 11 million who are here already illegally. i think that we've basically given up on deporting them. i think that is was going to happen here so we need to have a solid framework for where we go from now.

>> rachel: it is a crime of love as jessica says? is at the right way to phrase it? to be what i listen very closely to what you are saying in terms of separating the types of crim. it is a crime to come into the united states illegally. and that is not a political determination, that is a legal one. and so if we set our immigration policies in place and we are consistent with them, that actually is more humanitarian than not. no matter how you might feel as a parent or anything else, that consistency is in treating everybody the same so that you offer answers. with the president has said and it's interesting to hear him say it rather than democrats, when you could argue it's more their issue because this came into play more so with the dreamer act and all of that with obama, our former democrat president. but when you look at this and you say the president is saying i want to give a final answer when it comes to that portion of immigration come i want to give a final answer on visa lottery,

i went to put certain things into place, take the guesswork out, put consistency back in some of the question is, is that more humanitarian or just let it be a free-for-all and those people who can manage to hide and say and possibly even be in harm's way themselves? >> gianno: i like what you said, a quality of the law. where you're from, makes no difference, you will be treated equally. i had an opportunity to meet with attorney general jeff sessions twice and i met with him last month and we talked about a number of issues. the one thing i can say he's definitely a law and order attorney general and there's no compassion when it comes to applying the law. that's just what it is. one thing i can say is he is right. he's talking about applying the laws on the books when it comes to this. what number we've been talking about and we talked about the dream is as 8,000. there was a "usa today" came up with a number and said there's 3.6 million dreamers in the u.s. stay when they bump number up to 8 million for citizenship.

>> gianno: we look at over 3 million. >> katie: that number is far too low. >> harris: where democrats on this issue? where are they? >> jessica: i think frankly they're all over the place and some are willing to deal on this, certainly dreamers have pushed a lot here. >> harris: to advocate for better immigration policy that's clear and fair to everybody? >> jessica: i think they could agree on that but there's different definition of what that means in the same on the republican side as well. there are some who want to say i want to round up every single person has been here for ten, 20, 30 years, doesn't matter. there a small minority. but jeff sessions is one of them. >> rachel: we've got to go. we are awaiting a major announcement from president trump. will the u.s. remain in the controversial iran nuclear deal? plus, big primary day in four critical states as president trump makes his pick for west virginia and he says is anyone but don blankenship. whether that could backfire.

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president trump's clout with g.o.p. voters particularly in west virginia. a presidential emerging fellow republicans to vote against don blankenship who has been to prison. blankenship saying he is trumpier then trump and not backing down. so there are four states with primaries today. it has felt to me like this is the only one that's going on here in west virginia. as our guest here, what do you think happens in the end? is that trumpier then trump headed to mansion land? >> gianno: i think the president has learned a lesson when it comes to roy moore in alabama. i think joe manchin who is currently visiting senator there is a very popular and i know that there's two seats being targeted by republicans in areas that democrats -- where president trump win and democrat areas. by a lot so this is a very important seat. and just the fact that this is a great example as to what we can do in terms of moving forward with a strategy, this

impeachment talk that's been coming up across the spectrum is something that is very serious. i spoke with a member of the house of representatives recently who said that if we don't get the senate, if we don't keep the senate and we lose the house, there can lead to very serious implications. so this is beyond just moving the president's agenda forward. if this can go into the impeachment conversation if we don't pick up seats or maintain control of the senate. >> harris: 's is a place where the president should or should not step in? what he did is draw attention to a race that now is split among three people statistically. i think don blankenship is up by a couple of points. >> rachel: i don't think you should step in. i don't. i know you worked for governor romney. when he ran against obama in that second term, he felt like a preobama candidate in a post-obama world. and when i saw the debate between the virginia candidate, i didn't know anything about any of them but it struck me that

the other two candidates were pretrump candidates and that blankenship was so authentic. i remember they asked all three of them really difficult questions and the two other candidates did this sort of politician talking point where they avoided the difficult question, didn't answer directly in the other guy who had really the worst with prison and people who died in his charge, he answers very directly to the people and i think this is a new era of authenticity. i think it's a little dangerous for the president to extend against blankenship on this one. >> jessica: we do have to take a stand. he uses racist language, says cocaine mitch which is a complete fallacy about his wife's shipping company here. i do think the president should have stepped in to at least be on the record not like he was for why more. but i'm curious to your thoughts

in ohio because that's the reason really interested in. >> harris: i was just reading the 8 million voters are expecting north of 1.6 million to vote today. >> jessica: because he's always been my dark horse certainly for a vp candidate. how do you think it shapes up there? >> katie: i think a pretty good chance, honestly republicans are paying close attention but i agree that west virginia is something we had a lot more attention focused on the because the president has gotten involved in said blankenship shouldn't be voted for, i'm wondering if he wins tomorrow night was the president then will campaign for him and pull back those comments. >> harris: i have mentioned west virginia something that we might see was joe manchin go a little bit farther to the right. he might look over it like connor lambs down in pennsylvania. >> rachel: and finally changing my party orientation. >> harris: which makes november really complicated. >> jessica: he votes for trump 60% of the time. not an obama and tax cuts. but we have to go. >> harris: they you and i stepped in.

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>> i feel strongly that as adults, we can and should be educating our children today. i'm very excited to announce be best. >> katie: first lady melania trump announcing her anti-cyberbullying be best program but it didn't take long for the critics to pounce. some accusing the first lady using a language similar to michelle obama's speech. how is up to adults to remind children to choose their words wisely and speak with respect. chief political analyst for "abc news" responded to that on twitter was next up, david dukes wife announcing an antiracism campaign. in cia's chief white house reporter pointing out what some see as hypocrisy. because she is well aware of her husband's cyberbullying. he's considered by some, many i would say in different sector is one of the biggest bullies.

he will call you out in a moment's notice. and she stood in front of him and basically said she wants to show young people how it's done and do it right and they will pick up those habits. i wonder if the president will change. >> katie: also said the first lady is not culturally american and that she is trying to get the hang of things. >> rachel: that comment really offended me. i am the daughter of an immigrant, and that is just beyond the pale offensive. but here's the deal. the left thinks that any of us who are republicans and conservatives who voted for trump that we are complicit and they are very vocal about their strategy. they say it out loud, don't normalize. they did this with the romney campaign as well but didn't say it out loud. if they were to give credit, classy, dignified, has used

fashion in diplomacy in a way that is she should be on the cover of every magazine just for how she is using fashion as in the form of diplomacy. look at the tip off that she gives to those countries, the respect she gives them just when she chooses to wear. she is an amazing ambassador to the country and shame on people for not giving her credit. >> katie: a little short on time but there is a valid criticism about how this program is to michelle obama's program. if there is an ftc pamphlet that was called talking with kids about being online. if people have a point when they say president trump should lead by example and maybe be a little nicer when it comes to being on the internet. >> gianno: i think that's fair. and we remember the 2016 speech that she gave it was very similar to michelle obama's. so i'm not sure if they brought in the same consultant to the white house or not. but certainly, there's been a change in our poll numbers and an upward trajectory. >> katie: we actually have a pole. >> gianno: i think in part, we've seen on social media

recently when the french president came in and how she was dressed and people were comparing her to beyonce. this was black twitter and black social media praising her. i think what has happened is people have separated her from her husband knowing that she is the first lady, but knowing that her politics, she may be republican but a different kind of republican. >> katie: we will revisit this later i'm sure. we have to go to a break. we will see in just a second. wish we got money back on gym memberships. get money back hilarious. with claim-free rewards. switching to allstate is worth it. not in this house.? 'cause that's no ordinary family. that's your family. which is why you didn't grab just any cheese. you picked up new kraft expertly paired cheddar and swiss for eggs. beat that! kraft. family greatly.

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caldwell. we'll be back here tomorrow at noon eastern. harris? >> to deal or not to do iran. this is "outnumbered overtime." we're awaiting the president's decision on the iran nuclear deal. we're getting conflicting reports on whether the president plans to follow on a campaign promise to pull out. iran says they're ready to pull out. the iranians have hardly lived up to the spirit of the agreement hammered out by president trump's predecessor, barack obama. watch. >> when you send $1 billion in cash to iran and they use the money to fund terrorists and fund rebels in yemen that continue to fight against our allies, continue to funding