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>> good evening. tonight, that a family of one of the freed americans is thinking president trump. they believe this would not have happened without him. his campaign of maximum pressure. one republican senator tonight putting it like this. "for the first time, since 2009, we do not have an american citizen held by the regime. a true reflection of the success of president trump's campaign of maximum pressure. this is yet another positive indicator that the upcoming talks between kim jong un and president trump will lead to meaningful results." the president's allies are seeing tonight is proof that all of that tough talk in all of those harsh sanctions are working. the white house is viewing it as a gesture of goodwill ahead of this historic summit between president trump and kim jong un. senior officials say the relief in no way softens with the u.s. wants walking into those talks, the complete denuclearization of north korea. they don't want pyongyang to
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freezes nuclear missile tests. they want kim jong un to give up his country's nuclear weapons and completely dismantle its nuclear program. >> the president views this as a positive gesture and a step in the right direction from the north korean leader. total denuclearization will remain the top priority. >> president trump said that semite will not be taking place in the dmz as he previously suggested. speculation is now centering on singapore. sometime in early june with an official announcement expected within about three days days. >> we picked a time, we picked a place for the meeting, or summit as you like to call it, and i think it will be very successful. as i always say, who knows. who knows what's going to happen. it is going to be a very important event. >> it really is amazing to think that just a few months ago, so many of the president's critics were worried that the president and his policies were perhaps dragging us into a nuclear conflict with north korea. now he is just weeks away from
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meeting face-to-face with kim jong un and tonight he will be welcoming those three americans own. >> shannon: we are standing by. christian pressure at the white house. thank you. those planes are on route, we are tracking their arrival. lauren blanchard is at the state department. she has details on mike pompeo's efforts. good morning, lauren. >> good evening, good morning, shannon. we are just a few hours away from one president trump will be there to greet these three americans. let's take a look at their journey across the world. first buying from pyongyang, north korea, to japan. from there they flew to anchorage, alaska, for a quick refuel. now they are scheduled to arrive in less than three hours at joint base andrews. the larger plane carrying the three prisoners, the other plane carrying the secretary of state mike pompeo. pompeo telling reporters on their way home, "i am thrilled that we have them back.
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i'm happy that actually president trump set the conditions for this to happen and i'm thrilled with that. there is still a lot of work to do to achieve our ultimate goals." here's what we know about the three freed americans. tony kim and kim hak song, both working at the pyongyang university of science and technology when they were arrested in the spring of 2017. kim dong chul, arrested in 2015, had been sentenced to ten years of hard labor. the state department to sing the americans appeared in good health, releasing the statement from the men reading, "we would like to express the deep appreciation to the united states government, president trump, secretary pompeo, and the people of the united states for bringing us home." the release of these three americans, no easy feat by the newly confirmed secretary pompeo. this is a second meeting with the north korean leader in the last six weeks. in photos from north korean state tv, it shows up smiles during pompeo's 90 minute meeting with the north korean
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dictator kim jong un as they pln the upcoming summit with president trump. the time, date, location of the summit has been set for the details have not been made public yet. it was not guaranteed that the release would happen. secretary pompeo flashed across fingers before the announcement came and within an hour of their release, the americans were in the air, on their way out of north korea and shannon, as we are waiting for that flight to land, here in the washington area, secretary pompeo has been keeping busy. he tweeted a short while ago that he has been going back and watching that testimony and that confirmation hearing for the cia director nominee gina hospital . she looks -- he looks forward to working with her. >> shannon: joining me now, republican congressman lee zeldin, is that some of foreign affairs committee. great to have you with us tonight. it is hard to believe that just days ago, we weren't sure that
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secretary of state pompeo's nomination would make it through the senate. look where we are now. >> hitting the ground running. he gets on a plane, whirlwind trip across the globe, for families of three americans, today is a special day, for all of america, a special day. whether you know these three individuals coming back with our new secretary, i'm happy for them and their families. >> shannon: president has been tough on north korea. there's a debate about whether or not that brought them to the table. called him rocket man, said his nuclear brent musburger. today we heard a different tone. here's what he said today. >> nobody thought this was going to happen. i appreciate kim jong un doing this and allowing them to go. we picked a time, we picked a place for the meeting, or summit as you like to call it. i think it will be very
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successful. >> shannon: a very different tone from the president that we had months ago as they get ready to come to this meeting. we understand it will be in early june. it is is a good cop-bad cop as they get to sit at the table? >> writes tone, write a substance at the right time. last august, when he was referring to kim jong un's little rocket man, it was that same week that the u.n. security council voted unanimously, including china and russia to cut off over one-third of north korean experts. over the course of 2017 with the maximum pressure strategy, trying to get china, south korea, working together with japan and other nations to try to get everyone on the same page, leads to this moment. we don't know exactly where that epiphany went off, that light bulb for kim jong un. but i think while we were here debating, people in america saying kim jong un is crazy, i think kim jong un was over and
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north korea with this back and forth, comparing the size of nuclear buttons. kim jong un is not to be homicidal, not suicidal. i think with all of that back and forth and strategy of 2017, the moment came or he said, donald trump might just be crazy enough to use the nuclear option on me. i think that ends up ramping up the effectiveness of the diplomacy, multilateral diplomacy, that is where we are today. we are skeptical, hearing that from a lot of people, we are cautious, need to keep up the maximum pressure strategy. we are also seeing that there might be a real opportunity to actually denuclearize the korean peninsula. >> shannon: what do you say to those critics who say, the whole time he was making these threats, talking tough on twitter, they were testing weapons, testing the ballistic missiles, although things were happening. they started behaving and they wanted to reach out to the region and the u.s. some are wondering whether they are pivoting now because now
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they need economic help and they have secured with a think they need for the weapons. interesting that this four star general who met with secretary pompeo, his name is kim dong chul. general jim saying, we've perfected the nuclear capability. it is the policy to concentrate all efforts into economic efforts. does that mean they think they have what they need in order to be a military, nuclear threat, that is why they are behaving? we've got to clean up the starvation and everything else because of the sanctions? >> north korea is the toughest country on the globe to collect intelligence on. there's a lot of speculation here but we are not aware as far as i know of north korea developing mess. there stood policies. you see the people talking to the north koreans wanting to sound like you are approaching this whole process with strengt strength. but economically, we know that
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north korea is in really bad place. we've seen it with their people. there is a reality that north korea may be coming to the table because they have -- they've done the math, run the numbers, the current strategy does not work for their nation. the people who are talking about the economic reality for north korea, i think they might be the dash that might be the winning argument in trying to guess exactly what caused that epiphany for kim jong un. i don't believe they have the ability to actually have a nuclear warhead to survive we the macri entry. the toughest country on the entire globe to collect intel on, we don't know for sure. >> shannon: a lot of people were reassured that you said that, saying there is plenty of skepticism is a work toward the summit. congressman, thank you for joining us. as we wait for the sausages to land on u.s. soil, we'll take a look back at how we got here, what did those hostages
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plutonium program and exchange for energy aid. the u.s. provided pyongyang with two light water reactors but some of the economic relief did not come fast enough. two years later in 1996, the first american citizen was arrested. 826-year-old self-described missionary caught swimming across a river from china as part of a drunken prank. then u.s. congressman bill richardson negotiated his release. since then, u.s. citizens has often been in prison. serving as bargaining chips. in october, 2002, the agreed remark collapsed after it was revealed that north korea was pursuing uranium enrichment. four years later, north korea conducted its first nuclear test and again in may, 2009. just two months before that second test, american journalis journalists for the next americans to be arrested.
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map by north korean guards along the chinese border. president bill clinton flew to pyongyang to secure their release. >> we were taken to a location and when we walked through the doors, we saw standing before us president bill clinton. >> the former u.s. president dined with kim jong il, given kim jong un's father a propaganda victory. a few months later, robert park, a christian activist, walked into north korea across a frozen river to deliver a letter to kim jong il cigna mercy for the suffering north korean people. he was released but revealed he had been tortured. a year later, president jimmy carter arranged the release of another devout christian, american. illegally entering north korea from china. another mystery, arrested and convicted in the wake of north korea's third nuclear tes.
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director of national intelligence james clapper managed to bring him and another american prisoner home in 2014. not all cases have resulted in positive outcomes. university of virginia student otto warmbier was returned to the u.s. in a coma and that i -- died shortly thereafter. a few committed suicide after returning home. some described their treatment in prison as worse than death. >> shannon: jennifer griffin, thank you very much. for more, let's bring in fox news contributor judy miller. olivia enis, policy editor with the heritage foundation. >> nice to be with you. >> shannon: there's been a big debate about who should get credit for this. it's happening on president trump's watch. i want to play you something and former vice president dick cheney had to say about this coming together, the hostages coming home shortly. >> well, if you had told me this
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is going to happen, i would have been surprised. i would not have expected it could happen. i am pleased that it has. i think that it offers the possibility of significant progress. i think we have to be very careful, and i think president is being being very careful, to go operate in a way that we don't get hung out to dry. if they don't meet our standards, i would walk freda >> shannon: judy, that is what president trump said he will do. if it's not serious, he's walking away. >> i think president trump understands what is at stake. i think he understands the need for caution. i am glad that former vice president cheney admitted that he was just as gob smacked as the rest of us whereby this development. i think in part, you have to credit president moon jae-in and chairman kim themselves, the
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heads of south korea and north korea, because they were the ones that really started this process off with president moon president moon's invitation to charm and came to attend the olympics. this after a period of real freeze was supported by president trump and by his administration that i think that has brought us to where we are today, which is a much better place than where we work, shannon. the path is a lot better than a path to war. >> shannon: olivia, as the president has put together his team including secretary of state pompeo, virgie and john bolton from a former ambassador to the u.n., what do you make o? walking away from the iran deal and getting some movement, getting the hostages home, looking forward to the summit with north korea? >> the release of the three americans was a monumental moment. it is something worth taking stock of.
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it is really just a first step. while it's a positive development and it makes it look like maybe north korea will be a faithful negotiating partner, i think we have to proceed with great caution. i think the u.s. needs to be really clear about what its objectives are. one bright spot regarding this is that the fact that north korea responded to criticism about those three americans being detained, they might be willing to hear concerns that the u.s. has about human rights issues. the trump administration has not indicated that human rights will be on the table. they placed great priority and denuclearization but maybe they should turn their focus toward human rights issues as well. >> shannon: we know that's a big issue with china. we are negotiating over trade with them and all kinds of other things, a key player in helping them move north korea. human rights issues, where they rank in the discussion of many,
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many foreign policy issues? >> i think they have to have lower priority at this point then the overriding need to do something about those estimated 20-60 nuclear bombs that north korea is believed to have. you can see by that wide range, shannon, that our intelligence about what they have and where they have it is very limited. i think the president is concentrated on making sure that the progress is made in that area, and we have to point out that mr. pompeo has already stressed that the south korean process, step-by-step process, and which north korea would move towards dismantling his nuclear weapons, as sanctions are released. it will not work, it is not acceptable in the united states. this is an all for nothing proposition on nukes. it is they either denuclearize or we don't have a deal.
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a high-stakes gamble. i don't want to bring in human rights right now. i think the release of these three was a precondition as far as the americans were concerned for this meeting, the north koreans want to face meeting and that is why there is hostages being released. >> shannon: judy and olivia, much more to discuss. we want you guys to stick around and come back so we could have much more on this topic as we await these hostages. thank you all, we'll see you shortly. those three american hostages are heading home from north korea. u.s. pastor andrew bronson, you've heard us talk about his case, an american remains jailed in turkey. what president trump's tough talk and threat of sanctions helped bring him home? that story is next. ♪ you wouldn't accept an incomplete job
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>> the president, he spoke at the president air to one about this. vice president, secretary of state, continues to come up, will continue to come up. until he is no longer held. you'll continue to see a high level of u.s. government interest in this until he is released. >> shannon: you'll continue to see this show interested in it as well because while we've been discussing the three christian hostages released by the north koreans, they are due to touchdown shortly here in the u.s., there are other americans overseas. the trump administration is working too. just like this man, pastor andrew brunson.
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they've charged the 50-year-old american with being a terrorist rated turkish court this week postponing the rest of his trial until july, another two months of sitting behind bars, leading to new combination from the trump administration. his attorneys claim a christian minister, who has shepherded a small church in turkey for 23 years, is being used as a political pawn. >> [speaking foreign language] >> this is a completely unlawful arrest. we believe will be released. his real time is getting really long. there are serious violations of human rights. i think the court cannot give an independent ruling as long as these kind of statements continue. >> shannon: executive sr. counsel at the american center for law and justice joins us to talk about this. thank you for your time, i know you have been heavily involved in this case, and the more i read about it, the more frustrating it is about witnesses, "evidence" being introduced. the last thing i read is that the defense may not be allowed
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to put on witnesses of its own. what is happening over there? >> it is totally a sham trial. pastor bronson is not receiving any justice at all. the second day of trial was monday. at the end of 11 hours, mr. holabird, who you just towards becoming a turkish attorney, turned in a list of witnesses, and the court informed him of any of the witnesses or suspects, they would not be allowed to testify. of course, that is all of pastor pastor -- they are all suspects. they have the knowledge to refute this. >> shannon: they say this is strictly a legal issue, he has been any number of things, terrorist, involved in a coup attempt, trying to set up a separate kurdish state, saying things about islam, it is all over the place. president erdogan in turkey has said "give a pastor, take a pastor." that appears to be a reference to the cleric who is now here in
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the u.s. they accuse the cleric of also being involved with an attempted coup within the last couple of years. it sounds like he is being used for politics at this point. is there any other way to read this case? >> absolutely. from the beginning, on october 7th, 2016, wouldn't pastor brunson was arrested, we knew that there was probably some political plan on this, and president erdogan has now twice publicly demanded a swap of the two, the cleric in pennsylvania, for pastor brunson. pastor brunson has been used as a bargaining chip and a political pawn. he's innocent united states american citizen who is being held hostage in turkey in turkey. >> shannon: not long ago, we had two centers on the show work on this case. democrat jeanne shaheen and republican james lankford, who are both working on this. trying to put together a sanctions package. this is what senator shaheen had to say when she was with us.
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>> pastor brunson is being held hostage. i think it goes all the way to the top, to erdogan, president erdogan. he's the one responsible. these are totally made up charges. they don't even connect pastor brunson with his church, they called him a mormon, don't seem to know who he represents. this is someone who has been in turkey for 23 years. at his trial when he was asked about the charges, he said, i love turkey, i would never do anything against turkish people. this is not fair. >> shannon: we have had an abbasid or they are on the ground, other lawmakers, the president, vice president now weighing in on this. turkey is a nato ally. how do we get this guy home? >> we have to up the pressure. we have seen that we held the line with both korea and amazingly, north korea has returned three prisoners. we have to do the same, even though turkey is a nato ally,
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they are not responding to specific demands from the president himself. i think we have to do sanctions, we have to hold the line and we have to let turkey know that if they are going to act like an enemy by continuing to hold pastor brunson, we have to terrorist reading that mike one. >> shannon: i know this came as a blow to his family, friends, loved ones, finding out they were shutting the stone again. he's been held for a long time. in the meantime, the president has had good success, the president getting people from dangerous areas where they were being held against his will. he is continuing to intervene, as you are. cece heil, please keep us updated. >> thank you so much, shannon, for covering this really important case. >> shannon: thank you very much. it is time now for where in the world. the families of americans being held in iran now are speaking out in hopes of getting the trump administration to push for their loved ones released.
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for example, the wife of chinese-american, a princeton grad student sentenced to prison and around for espionage. she says his health is failing and he needs help now. >> he's living in a hut in the ground, very crowded, badly affected, badly infected with bedbugs. his health is weakening since he was in detention. he has a lot of illnesses. >> shannon: meanwhile, an israeli education center is minting silver and gold coins printing president trump's image to honor his decision to move the u.s. embassy to jerusalem. that happens next week. the temple coin features mr. trump alongside king cyrus, who 2500 years ago, allowed the jews to return to jerusalem. it cannot be used as currency.
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to syria where government forces are continuing their push to take a small area south of the capital, damascus, from ices holdouts. the fighting is going block by block, hundreds have been killed in just the past two weeks. at least three homicide bombers and striking two police stations in afghanistan capital of kabul, wounded at least six people, cleanup operations are underway and made a sporadic gunfire. twin suicide bombings claimed by isis last week killed at least 25 people including nine journalists. to chile, hundreds of students clash with police during a march against sexual harassment on campus. the students held up signs demanding education in schools and universities, "that is not sexist." several protesters were arrested. when we return, we will get the latest as we wait for those hostages to arrive on american soil. they are on their way returning from north korea with secretary of state mike pompeo. you are looking live at joint base andrews where they will be
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>> shannon: as we await the return of three u.s. hostages, we want to take you to leland vittert live inside joint base andrews. they are said to arrive sometime soon and you are standing by. what will happen when i get there or this morning, depending on what time zone you are in? >> here's what time zone you are and, the folks who are arriving has been in a lot of time zones. more than 18 hours as they make their check back from north korea, stops in japan, anchorage, alaska, as well, landing here sometimes in the next two hours or so. they are in the air on the way, the president should arrive here a couple of minutes before, sometime in the mid-2:00 hour. if this shot looks familiar, the fire trucks of the american flag, this is where air force one arrives and departs from the famous shots of the president with marine one.
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today it is not departure but of course the arrival. you can see, an unusual sight, the flag set up, the two fire trucks, we understand this is where the plane carrying those three hostages is going to pull up. the president is going to meet with the first lady and the vice president as well. these are historic moments in any presidency. it is rare, very rare for an american president to come to andrews or anywhere else to greet people coming back, and often times as it was for this president early in his term, a sad occasion where he welcomed home the remains of a navy seal killed in combat. the happy moments of being able to welcome home americans to andrews air force base is rare one and any presidency. clearly, something that the president is excited about. we saw him talking about it, a big smile on his face. we know over the past couple of days now as this was being put
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into place by the administration, they had a heads up this was happening, there was a lot of excitement building for them as they got ready to announce. the announcement coming early this morning. these folks were indeed on their way home. it wasn't always for sure. there was a lot of thought by the administration that they didn't want to say a single word until these three americans were on the u.s. government plane and headed out of north korea here to the united states. in terms of how this happened, shannon, the back and forth diplomacy, this was mike pompeo's second trip to north korea, his first trip over easter weekend i see a director, and we know that a big part of the discussions in setting this president trump-kim jong un summit has been about these three prisoners and win a second trip became possible, we
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know that secretary of state mike pompeo made a point to the north koreans that if you want me to come for a second trip, the united states get something in return and that was these three americans coming home and it appears as though the north koreans have lived up to their side of the bargain. we have seen president trump think kim jong un, saying he appreciates what what is happe. as they look forward to the summit, at least we have heard the date and time have been set. we have not gotten a lot from mike pompeo in terms of exactly what happened during the meeting with kim jong un in terms of what the conditions are of this meeting, what they hope to accomplish, what is on the table, whether or not we hear from the president or from mike pompeo as he arrives back with the three americans, we don't know yet. >> shannon: leland vittert live. he'll be there off of the early morning hours as we await the arrival. thank you very much.
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let's bring up our panel. judy miller and olivia enos as we await. we will talk about how we get to this point. thank you for sticking around. i want to play something, the conversation that has been about president trump withdrawing the u.s. from the iran deal. critics who say that's going to hurt his ability to be able to negotiate with north koreans, that they'll trust he'll stick to a deal. g.o.p. senator joni ernst. >> i think quite the opposite. i think that we are sending a very clear message to north korea to keep itself straight or we will come after them. we did that with iran as well. with the president pulled out of that agreement. >> shannon: olivia, your response? >> i think a lot of people are placing a lot of emphasis on the u.s. decision to pull out of the iran deal and how that will relate to north korea. truthfully, i think that we really have to negotiate with north korea on its own basis.
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time and time again, north korea has proven an unfaithful negotiating partner. while the fact that north korea did return the three american hostages to the u.s., i think that's one positive step. that doesn't mean that there necessarily going to be a faithful negotiating partner going forward. in some ways, the iran deal, pulling out come at us to north korea, we are going to be making sure that you keep your word when it comes to this agreement and we will be watching every little detail very, very closely. hopefully that means we will be able to negotiate even stronger deal than we might have been able to negotiate before. >> shannon: judy, how much do you think these two big moves with regard to iran and north korea are the influence of what we talked about before? the president's team that he has around him, very hawkish, including john bolton, and the new secretary of state? >> i think that it's hard to know at this point since john bolton has been there for such a short time, did all of mike
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pompeo. he was there in his capacity as cia director. it is hard to know how the president is making these decisions, to whom he lessons, whether or not this was on his mind from the very beginning, as you pointed out, shannon, he has been all over the map on what he said about north korea and about kim. i do agree with olivia. i have been very critical, by the way, of the decision to withdraw unilaterally from the iran deal. but i'm not necessarily certain that these two perspectives, nuclear deals, are related. i think that until we know more about what is motivating chairman kim, until we know why he decided to come to the table and what he hopes to expect or to gain for himself and his country, it is hard to say whether or not he is even paying attention to the iran deal, whether or not that factors into his thinking. so i opposed the unilateral
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withdrawal with iran on its own but i am not sure it has grand implications for north korea. the north koreans are probably doing this because they feel they want to warm rest because they need to gain some time, if time is not working against them or for them, until we know more about what is in chairman kim's head, it is very hard to . maybe dennis rodman knows more at this point about what's in his head than any of us. >> shannon: very quickly, olivia, will be know what is going on inside of his mind? getting into the table, plenty of skeptics including the president. >> i think we can't know until we talk with kim jong un. i think it is worth really discerning what the north koreans are hoping to get out of this. if there is one thing we do know about north korea, the kim regime cares about its legitimacy. it cares about the stability of the regime and that cares about its continuation of power. no doubt that it's factoring into the calculation of coming
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to the table. now the u.s. needs do not allow north korea to set the terms for these upcoming negotiations, but instead, the trump administration needs to be clear that denuclearization is a top priority. human rights issues really can factor into that. we don't have to be viewed as separate issues necessarily, rather, the international infrastructure can view those issues as working in tandem and work to move the needle on both of those issues in this upcoming summit. >> shannon: olivia enos and judy miller, thank you both for your time. >> thank you. >> shannon: we've heard about their mind as conditions are north korea's prison. we will talk with dr. siegel about what the prisoners may have gone through and the physical obstacles they may be facing when they return. we await their return coming up. ♪ when their windshield got chipped. so they scheduled at safelite.com. they didn't have to change their plans or worry about a thing. i'll see you all in a little bit.
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>> shannon: it is now 12:50:00 a.m. on the east coast. you see fire trucks with a giant american flag hoisted as we await the return of three americans who have been held hostage in north korea. the new secretary of state mike pompeo bringing them back with him, arriving soon, the president and vice president will greet them early this morning when i touch down. we are standing by and will take you there lives. in the meantime, north korea known for its brutal work camps, sending three american prisoners home tonight. we are told to the prisoners did see doctors a couple of times, including when they touched down in alaska. dr. marc siegel is a fox news medical contributor and we want to talk to him about what they may have gone through. dr. siegel, always great to have you with us. >> great is you, shannon. >> shannon: is good initially and that they were able to walk to the planes themselves, we are told they are in much different condition then the way that otto warmbier unfortunately and died days later.
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what would you be most concerned about and getting a look at these folks? >> as you mentioned otto warmbier, he was actually i believe probably poisoned and he was given truth serum and overdosed. this is different. the conditions in north korean prisons according to human rights watch are horrendous in terms of malnutrition, no medication, forced labor, starvation, not enough water. we are talking about dehydration and malnutrition. obviously a lot of psychological problems, there will be post-traumatic stress. two of these three prisoners by the way are very devout. one is a pastor. kim dong chul is a pastor in the church. kim hak song is a christian missionary. i believe faith will play a role. it may help them survive ended may increase the post-traumatic stress that they suffer. it is definitely going to be long-term emotional problems. >> shannon: we think about the
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north korean defector who ran and which are numbers of times as he was running across the border. the ap said "north korean soldier who was severely wounded by gunfire while escaping to south korea have removed dozens of parasites from his body, including presumed roundworms as long as 11 inches long." according to hospital officials. a member of the military. you would think he would have probably better treatment than the average citizen living there. and yet he was full of health issues. never mind the bullet wounds. it sounds like it's a rough place to be. >> shannon, i'm glad you brought that up. in addition to the malnutrition and the starvation and the lack of proper fluids, there is also a lot of parasites around their and the soil. they are going to have to carefully check these for parasites. even if they look like they are healthy, they have to have a careful going over. what does their blood work look
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like? your electrolytes, blood chemistries, blood counts, are they anemic? so many diseases they could be suffering from. parasites are the top of the list. we don't think about that in the united states. but it's all over the place in north korea. >> shannon: dr. siegel, you mentioned their faith, the psychological trauma that they have been through. what is the best advice for them, for their loved ones, who obviously want to smother them with a welcome home, and are overwhelmed and overjoyed? what kind of space do they need, help as they try to readjust to their lives? >> with poster modest stress, we are talking about forced labor, beatings, coercion over there, there is a lot to be thinking about. i would say to families, loved ones, this takes time. it's a slow, gradual process. he will see nightmares, dissociation, flashbacks. none of these things for sure, but that is what they have to be on the lookout for. you are right, smother them with love but the recovery takes a
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long time. we've seen a tear in the states for people coming back for more. we've seen it from prisoners before. this will be a very bad case. >> shannon: as you said, hopefully the faith helps sustain some of those men. >> that's a huge part. >> shannon: dr. siegel, thank you so much. we are still awaiting the return of those hostages. we have a live shot as we are watching a joint base andrews, expected to land shortly. we'll be right back with the extended coverage. ♪ ♪ go your own way copd tries to say, "go this way." i say, "i'll go my own way, with anoro." ♪ go your own way once-daily anoro contains two medicines called bronchodilators that work together to significantly improve lung function all day and all night. anoro is not for asthma. it contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. the risk is unknown in copd. anoro won't replace rescue inhalers for sudden symptoms
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>> this is the scene at joint base andrews. the president will be leaving the white house shortly and he is standing by to be at the joint base there with the vice president to greet the freed detainees who are in route from north korea. the president also saying today that a place and a date has been set for the highly coveted meeting with kim jong un. again, we are waiting. we will take you there live as
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soon as new secretary of state pompeo and the freed hostages who have been held in north korea returned not just to u.s. soil, they have touched down in alaska, but here to the d.c. area. stay tuned for extended coverag coverage. chief national correspondent ed hendry ed henry takes over. >> i think people thought it would be years before this happened. it would be years or decades, nobody thought this would happen. i appreciate kim jong un doing this. >> a grateful nation prepares for a grateful homecoming. three previously imprisoned americans get set to put their feet on u.s. soil for the first time in a long time. that will happen in about two hours from now. secretary of state mike pompeo is scheduled to
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