>> happy mother's day to all the mothers including you. is take a thank you, or you're going to help deliver a few flowers in your neck of the world. that'll be so fun. thank you for joining us. speak about number starts right now. we want to fox news alert, president from making new remarks about his upcoming summit was north korean leader kim jong un found in the united states will not be walking to another iran nuclear deal like the one he just withdrew from. and hinted as plans to pursue a new better agreement with tehran. possibly sending a signal to north korea in the world. this is "outnumbered" on a fine friday. i'm harris faulkner, host of kennedy on fox business, candy is here. for public and the strategist and senior fellow at the independent women's voice, lisa boothe. anchor of the intelligence report on fox business, trish ragan. and joining us for the first time in the center seat, former deputy is assistant general under george w. bush, tom depree is here.

you've done over time, this is like that on steroids. >> tom: i am so excited to be here today. i'm ready. >> trish: no pressure. >> harris: happy friday. got a lot of news, let's get to it. president from telling reporters on an indiana rally last night he expects to sit down with north korean leader kim jong un next month to go very well. by adding that if not, he won't be afraid to walk away. >> i think it's going to be a very big success, but my attitude is, if it isn't, it isn't. if it isn't, it isn't. but you have to have that because you don't know. we are not going to be walked into when i ran deal for the negotiator john kerry refused to leave the table. >> harris: meanwhile, the president is hinting at plans for negotiating a better nuclear deal with iran. watch.

>> i hope to be able to make a deal with them, a good deal, a fair deal, a good deal for them, better for them. better for them, but we cannot allow them to have nuclear weapons. we must be able to go to a site and check that site. we have to be able to go into their military bases to see whether or not they are cheating. of course, we are all sure they're not cheating just in case. >> harris: just in case. tom dupree? >> tom: i think the president is very comfortable where he is right now. keep in mind, his background is as a negotiator and this is the biggest negotiation on the biggest stage we've seen. the fact is the president's positioning this for a situation in which he can negotiate aggressively creatively and unpredictably. i think that he is doing a very smart thing right now and sending these public signals because what they're going to do

is they are going to condition the negotiating landscape from when he finally sits down with north korea. >> harris: real quickly before we open it wider to the couch, you worked for previous administration of my president george w. bush and i'm curious to know what you think of where this president is taking the republican party because he worked for an administration and you can see what that president did. >> tom: there's no question this is becoming president terms for publican party that is talk to people and you see it in the poll numbers, results of primaries, the president is reshaping the republican party in his own image. i think the big question and i say this as a republican is where we are going to be in a post-trump world. it is this coalition of the president has brought together of people who have longtime republicans but also some blue-collar democrats, is that going to stay stable and together or are we going to see a schism in the republican party between the trump faction and they never trump once the president has left office, that's the big question.

>> harris: 's other handing some candy over to the republicans right now. there populate popularity, their edge has slid. >> trish: and not doing them any favors. talking about impeachment again, nancy pelosi once again talking about taxes going up and the truth is for the blue-collar democrats, he was able to bring in places like pennsylvania come he's got a real shot at bringing them into consistently. the challenge is going to be the republican party itself does not fully embrace as president. so did they start to move over to the elite group of the left? that's what i find fascinating here and i think it has the power to really reshape the future of both parties right no now. >> harris: just real quickly to get your opinion on that, there were vulcans wouldn't come together? by not?

>> lisa: i think they're going to come together. >> harris: behind this president? >> lisa: look at what senator chuck schumer recently said talking about how the freeing of these three north koreans should be expected, should not be exalted. i think this is kind of comments. we don't remember him saying anything like this when president obama exchanged five terrorists for when president obama engaged in a ransom payment for american hostages. i think it's comments like that from the left and the inability to even give president from any credit that is mobilizing republicans behind president trump and not as republicans, but i think the american people and that's why we have seen with president trump's approval ratings pick up and also i receive the generic ballot between republicans and democrats closed. three points most recently and i think it's that kind of criticism that is bringing people behind president trump and his big accomplishments and achievements like bringing those three americans home.

>> kennedy: you know how uncomfortable it is. the great deal of discomfort in order to ultimately emerge with a beautiful smile. and that to some degree is what's happening with president trump. there's so much discomfort on the left. however, if he continues to focus on the economy and if you successful in korea, that buys him so much political capital because right now, to both of your points, as a lot of people in the republican party who are biding their time until he's gone. but they have no problem writing his coattails if he is successful. >> trish: think of the risk involved in that. it's tremendously risky because he is walking a tight rope. it could go really well, he could go down in history as a man who reunited the korean peninsula is a war took denuclearization off the table. because i could happen if the

economy slides but here's what's interesting and i think the part of his legacy that we don't talk about a lot and this is what will affect both parties as we will see a more coalition style government and you will see democrats and republicans working together because you have a lot of democrats who agree with him on tariffs a lot who agree on deregulation of the economic message that is not necessarily us versus them, red versus blue, our team or their team that could ultimately be something. >> tom: i was going to say that talking about how this is a defining moment for the republicans the possibility of a real line within the party, i agree with all that but at the same time, this is a defining moment for the democrats too. it's very easy to be the opposition party lessons you can all unite about your dislike for the president and that's with her going right now. but i think the real challenge is going to be fast forward to a post-trump world, what the

democrats are offering. are they able to put forth positive ideas that will get back the disaffected blue-collar voters that they lost. >> lisa: gets a lot harder when you start throwing points on the board and under this administration would you like him or not, you see points on the board. it was an historic tax deal gets done under president trump, the opening of and more, something republicans have been trying to get done for decades. we are talking about the destruction of isis under president trump, talking about historic conversation with north korea pulling out of the iran deal, being respected on the world stage again after being embarrassed under president obama. we are talking about huge wins under the trump administration and the more wins he puts on the board, the opposition is going to get more difficult and you're going to have more republicans coalescing around him that's what we've seen happening in a few days zealous track, we are going to keep seeing it happen. >> harris: when you talk about accomplishments for this president, what would it really be for democrats at this point?

didn't have much of a message last time around and i see you shaking your head. >> trish: i guess that's the message that we keep hearing. >> kennedy: which is at work in a good economy. >> trish: it doesn't work in any economy. who wants to go to work only to have all your money taken away and redistributed to the folks who are working. it's anti-american in its principle. we are not socialists. as much as hillary clinton, elizabeth warren, nancy pelosi want to embrace that, it will never fly. it does not play. >> harris: some thing about a fight yesterday and i've been waiting for her to really hit the papers and make huge news is the fact that we have right now the one on one-on-one match between the people who would want to find a job in the jobs that are out there. did his skills match? we don't know, you'd have to drill down on that but that's huge news. that many jobs in an economy. >> kennedy: unfortunately, you don't have wages that are meeting that demand because we have a labor market that is that

tight, businesses have to offer more money. what's missing is exactly what you touched on, the skills. there are high skilled jobs that need to be filled but you don't have the workers who are there to fill them and then you have a bunch of low skilled workers who are competing for jobs but because of things like force minimum wage requirements in that fight for 15, a lot of those businesses big companies and small are going to go to things like either cutting down their workers were going to automation. and that hurts the biggest pool of workers that are out there right there. >> trish: we have allowed ourselves to fall behind in terms of skills and her education and this is a big policy issue that i really hope some day washington takes in a meaningful way. our children are not being educated to compete in the new kind of workforce that we are becoming. so you're absolutely right, there are great jobs available and we don't have the people to fill them. and that's a shame. >> kennedy: the other thing is

very quickly, they've been sold on this idea that you have to have a four-year liberal arts degree but a lot of those jobs is not necessarily accounting. it's a welding and some of the stuff that we talk about the things that micro has been pushing for so long. those are traditional jobs that baby boomers have filled and now an entire new generation of people, $70,000 a year entry-level jobs. >> trish: the debt that these kids are taking on to go to some school for a silly degree that's going to enable them to become a barista at starbucks. >> harris: welcome to the party. let's move on. new development in the russia investigation show down. the truth between the doj and some of their biggest republican critics. and, chuck grassley has a blunt request for some of the supreme court's. get out. the big debate, his remarks have ignited. alright, i brought in new max protein

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department yesterday for a briefing with top officials who warned that his demands would endanger lives and the crucial intelligence source. afterwards, and a statement saying "we had a productive discussion today with officials from the office of the director of national intelligence, department of justice, and the fbi in which we raise questions related to information requested from the intelligence community. of the officials committed to holding further discussions of these matters and we look forward to continuing our dialogue next week to satisfy the committee's request." before the sit down, house speaker paul ryan saying he's got his back. >> i think this request is wholly appropriate, completely within the scope of the investigation that's been ongoing for a wild with respect to isa. i actually think this is something that should be answered a while ago. >> kennedy: congressman adam schiff, the top democrat on intelligence got a separate

briefing from doj officials later in the day. tom dupree, you have worked within the department of justice is a deputy attorney general. so tell me, what exactly is going on here? for people who are looking in from the outside, it's very confusing. dual briefings, threats of impeachment, what's going on? >> tom: what's going on is a classic instance of confrontation between congress which has oversight responsibility over the justice department and the department itself which obviously wants to protect classified information. it was to protect the sanctity of its intelligence methods and sources. that's not new. that happened in the bush administration and obama administration and is happening today. what is a little different as the temperature has been turned up. he actually have republican congressmen threatening a republican attorney general with contempt. so this is a traditional institutional dynamic but it is being played out in a supercharged atmosphere right now, these threats going back and forth. for now at least it seems the

least back reached a truce. i'm optimistic this is how it's going to end. >> kennedy: it sounds like it because john kelly has gotten involved and you have democrats saying all they are doing is a dog and pony show, requesting all of these documents, being unreasonable and all they want is cause to fire either sessions were rosenstein. what is going on? >> trish: i think to talk their side of things a little bit, i think they have reason to be asking some questions. i think this entire thing is bizarre. so far, we haven't found any evidence of collusion. they've been asking for a second investigation to be opened up into how this dossier is considered credible enough by the fbi and they have the fisa warrant. when you worry about things like deep state, this is exactly what you worry about.

so i think it will put everyone in a much better frame of mind and answer a lot of questions if they just provided this document that everyone is asking for. why not? >> kennedy: i agree with you completely not just on this subject. i think there are so many areas where those are reasonable requests and that's what reductions are for in these committee chairs have a right to read this classified information. so how does it get so politicized that members of the same committee from different parties get different briefings from the same department of justice? >> lisa: we are living in a highly politicized world. look how criticized chairman nunez has been. there was even an ethics complaint filed against him to try to bring him down. another reason is getting so much criticism of the reason why that's happened is he's been so instrumental in getting to the bottom of things, getting information, getting access, bringing things to light and he

was the one that brought to light concerns over surveillance on masking he's the one that forced the admission and the information out there that it was the democrats and hillary clinton behind the dossier. so he has been on this, he has been digging and going after the doj, the fbi to get answers and that's the reason why he's been criticized so much. >> tom: i have never seen this degree of a breakdown of trust between congress and the justice department. i think from the congressional perspective, there is a concern going to the idea that there are people embedded within the bureaucracy and the partisan mode and within congress. i don't want to overstate the issue. i do not believe the entirety of the fbi is compromised. that's not my view, never been my view. >> kennedy: what about jeff sessions? the recusal seems to be does

blanket personal policy that he house and it seems like he could dip into some of these discussions with greater frequency than he is paid >> tom: i think he is playing it safe both to protect the recusal, also because he'd rather just doesn't want to get into this. >> harris: can we slow down just a little bit? what is he protecting? the president has complained, been very vocal about did you need to recuse yourself from the russia investigation and what does the recusal really get you? how broad is that? you're talking about he could speak up for what is he protecting? >> tom: wednesday recuse yourself, from that point on and in this point, anything to do with the russian interference in elections once you draw that line, you're going to be confronted as sessions is almost on a day-to-day basis with can you look in this, weigh in on that, and just have to make these judgment calls where they can't. it's him as far as the recusal

goes. he would be advised by his deputy and other people at the justice department. i suspect what's going on from the justice department perspective is that they institutionally are very worried about sharing classified material with congress given that in the past when i've done that, they sometimes get burned. >> harris: what you mean in the past? he meaning of the last few week weeks? it's just been leaking like a sieve. >> tom: there are concerns about secrecy and in some they may be misplaced. in some they are legitimate. >> harris: the public has the same concern. we are all watching the leaks two. >> kennedy: we don't know who to believe. that's what's so confusing about it. if we don't know which side is telling the truth of what the motivation is anymore. >> tom: >> harris: my lips are g but is going to be tom's words. >> tom: here's the thing and

this is why this particular dispute really kills me, tell her at my heartstrings because i love the folks of the justice department and i love the folks in congress who want this information. i think both sides are acting in good faith here. i don't think jeff sessions is stonewalling and trying to sabotage. >> kennedy: i think he doesn't know what he's doing. >> trish: if he has to recuse himself such a big deal, should he really be in this position? >> tom: at some point you could say maybe he shouldn't. i don't think he's hit that point. the justice department has a lot of stuff other than the russia investigation. >> kennedy: we must move forward, there is so much show to get to. as a message for eating supreme court justices were thinking of retiring. do it now. why he is saying that and whether it's a fair point. as a cross the line. in the senate intelligence committee is expected to vote next week on gina haspel. the president's nominee to lead the cia followed by a full vote on the floor. whether she has enough support to be confirmed as another

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>> trish: next week, the senate intel committee is expected to vote on trump's to head the cia up ahead of a full vote on the floor and a republican senator jeff jeff flake of arizona is joining democrats and seeking more information about nominee gina haspel. he also says he is going to consider the opinion of the senior senator from his state, john mccain. who has urged his colleagues against confirming gina haspel. she testified early this week before the senate intelligence committee. it democrat joe manchin got on board with his support but republicans have said they need more democratic support. right now, california democrat dianne feinstein who authored the senate's comprehensive review of cia interrogation practices is going to vote no.

>> i am not going to vote for her. i don't believe we are a signatory to the convention against torture as well as under international agreements. and i don't believe the head of this large intelligence agency should be someone that condoned and practiced in that great dark period. >> trish: this one going to be a squeaker. >> tom: this is going to extra innings. we knew right now when his nomination was keyed up that it was going to play out this way that democrats would view this as an opportunity to replay all of the debate over enhance interrogation. i think she has a road to victory and it is a narrow road but she struck the right tone when she testified and said we are not going to reinstitute these old policies by the same time, i'm not going to throw my agency colleagues under the bus and condemn them for decisions that they made in the days

following. >> trish: i just wonder if this was president clinton trying to get gina haspel in as the first female head of the cia, would you be facing the same kind of backlash? >> kennedy: not from democrats. this would be an identity politics moment which is sad because it means that people have abandoned their principles and their ideology and is very unfortunate because her confirmation process raises some really critical questions that i think is a we haven't fully answered and i think this is the appropriate venue to ask those and i think senator mccain having endured torture for five years in a vietnamese prison camp is the best person to weigh in on this. she did do a good job and she gave a lot of people who were on the fence and want to support the president kind of cover that they needed and she answered things in a satisfactory enough way for them, but for someone like john mccain all, rand paul is a principal person who has a very particular

ideology. john mccain is a senator who has a very particular set of life experiences. so i would actually defer to them and i think there are still some outstanding questions. >> lisa: have a great an amount of respect for senator mccain and his and especially megan. but i do think there's a fair frustration just in the sense that he had previously supported john brennan and you also look at someone like senator feinstein that previously supported john brennan. >> trish: that was before the 6,000 page senate report on torture came out. >> lisa: they also knew that john brennan had been involved in a more intimate and higher up way. >> harris: for the mind. farther down the food chain. >> lisa: i think there is a fair frustration in what looked like a double standard or hypocrisy. having supported john brennan but not supporting gina haspel and citing that, the enhanced interrogation as what is disqualifying for her

nomination. i do think there is a fair criticism as well to people now coming out against gina haspel were before for john brennan. >> harris: senator johnson of north dakota told me yesterday that this is going to be tight. and notwithstanding senator mccain or rand paul, you're going to need the help of democrats. we saw joe manchin of west virginia, very red state. hamlet said red suit because the when. we are seeing some players on the left who may capitulate and come farther to the center and then jump on board with republicans either they support gina haspel or they are politically vulnerable and are thinking ahead. at the bottom line here is because good questions were able to be asked and i agree with you kennedy, we learned something from gina haspel we haven't heard her say before at least not publicly and that when she doesn't even think that the agency that ought to be doing any sort of interrogation. she doesn't even think it works. can we get to the bottom line

with the person who said i will do what i am told to do that i will also. i didn't understand her decision that she would ever design but that she would push back if you ever asked to do something that didn't go along with the law. i hear you, those are important things to know that is valuable valuable information. it is nonpolitical. nonetheless, as you said earlier, we are living in a very political time and this president wants to make sure that he can get his appointee through without the headaches that he is going through. in indiana last night, talking about exactly that. >> this november, indiana will face an important choice. you can send a really incredible swamp person back to the senate like joe donnelly or you can send up republicans like mike

braun to drain the swamp. >> trish: though he is trying to energize the vase in indiana. one of rally that was in rota crowd there was. lots of enthusiasm. will this make it easier if he is able to get more republicans in these seats? i think so, so he's not confronting that challenge. i'm not going to go there with the democrats but there are some democrats as you said earlier in the program that might be willing to cross. >> kennedy: like joe donnelly, his campaign. at a statistic that he votes with the president 62% of the time. his campaign is saying he's a democrat. >> kennedy: if he wants another democrat to flip and vote for gina haspel, joe donnelly is a good person to go after considering the rally that they had last night, very enthusiastic rally. >> lisa: not even just the rally, the fact that mike braun is going to be a strong

challenger to him so joe donnelly is now like oh shoot, i'm action going to have a really tough general election, same to be said for joe manchin. >> harris: didn't they all learned something from connor lam and central and sylvania. one of these democrats might lead to the right and under going to be in trouble. so these are all lessons. >> lisa: i think everyone has learned and we saw this with primary voters that candidates matter and that's why we saw west virginia's not support someone like don blankenship and supported patrick marseilles. living on a little bit but i'm sure we'll have those conversations later. senator chuck grassley has a message for aging supreme court justices, retire now. republican share of the senate judiciary committee says that if any justices are thinking of retiring in the near future, they should do so before this year's midterm election. take a listen. >> we've got to get this done before the election and there is generally about 50, 60, 70 days between the time the president

nominates somebody and we get a hearing in the committee and another two weeks before it gets to the floor and this has to be done over the november election. so my message to anyone of the nine supreme court justices if you're thinking about quitting this year, do it yesterday. >> lisa: not mincing words there. forget to that. real quick, i want to talk to about a 2017 was a record year in terms of reshaping the federal court and i wanted you to just touch upon that for the viewer is and how significant that is for the country. >> tom: absolutely. it is hard to overstate the significance of what this president and his administration have done in terms of reshaping the federal court. certainly the supreme court nominations are what get all the media attention. everyone wants to gossip about a vacancy in that sort of thing. when you look back at the legacy of the president, the part of his legacy that endures for

decades after the time in office has ended is the way that he has constituted the federal courts. these are dozens of appointments on the federal district courts of appeal. that enabled the president to get people in there that share his understanding of our constitution, that share his approach to the rule of law. this administration moved with rocket speed out of the gate and filling the vacancy with a few misfires by and large a+ candidates that are now populating the general judiciary committee. >> lisa: there are a little bit of politics at play here. look at exit polling in 2016. >> harris: should be trust any of that? >> lisa: the fact that you have a supreme court nominee and confirmation in the ballot really did motivate some people to turn out. 21% said that was the most important factor of voting in 2016. we also had senator dean heller and then come out and say if we had another supreme court nomination hanging in the

balance, this could be a motivating factor for midterm elected and are based. how do you think that would be for politics? >> kennedy: it is impactful for a politics that i think most of those justices don't care about petty politics. i think ruth bader ginsburg just got herself a blood boy. and if you watch silicon valley, that is a transfusion associate with, someone with young nubile blood who can donate some of theirs to the aging in order to help them live longer and longer and longer. so she may live beyond eternity if it means putting a roadblock in the way for chuck grassley and congressional republicans who are telling her what to do and when to retire. >> harris: i heard of that. i was a hair girl. >> lisa: not just senator chuck grassley, he does not mince words. new york city and san francisco

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the federal government has to figure out what it once and it immigration policy and put that forward once and for all? >> tom: i agree. i think it is ultimately up to congress to sort all of this out. i will say this, when you're confronted with a question like century cities, i way saying what does the constitution say? what it says is that federal law is the supreme law of the land. what we are seeing is actions by a lot of states, localities, other municipalities, not all of them but a lot of them that are not looking simply not to support and enhance federal law but actively to obstruct it which i think crosses that constitutional line. at the end of the day, i agree. congress has got to step in and say can't we all get along and get a rational, coherent immigration policy for the nation. >> harris: what is the penalty when jurisdictions decided they want to go rogue? >> tom: that is a great question. one thing that congress often will look at is whether it can withdraw funding from those states or localities that won't cooperate with vice. and it is a much more complicated constitutional

question then you would imagine. the president can. the problem is there are limits in both what congress can do and what the president can do in terms of using federal funding is either a stick or a carrot to get the states to cooperate. you would think they could just pass a law that says state shall cooperate. they can't do that. try to get it from a funding mechanism. >> trish: i don't need to pass a lot because we have the constitution and federal law supersedes state law. i don't even know -- it seems to me that you are making a legal case to say this is the laws of land, we have to protect our borders and can't that just be enough? >> kennedy: there is so much confusion right now with federal law because you have a lot of businesses and farmers and small businesses who would love to hire people with h2b visas but they simply can't because of the restricted number. so congress has to say here's a number of visas. we are going to increase as many, going to decrease this many.

so they know exactly what they're going to do but the other issue of course is states like california and new york want to protect future voters and hoping the sanctuary policies would codify the relationship between the democratic party stronghold and future voters who will always keep them in office. >> lisa: absolutely had to your point hoping that congress addresses these issues come is not going to happen anytime soon and not going to happen as we head into election season into a midterm election. we are not going to see much get done in congress. period. there are a lot of politics around this issue but i think this hurts democrats and actually helps republicans and hesitant trump on the issue of immigration because if you do look at polling, many americans share president trump's concerns about sanctuary cities on the issue of law and order. and putting a danger to society. so i think these issues are going to play out and it's also a red meat issue for republicans

and the base as well which is something that republicans need heading into the midterm elections and are lacking being in control of both bodies of congress and the white house. >> harris: for democrats, if they don't get on this issue again, the going to get left behind because there are people who are using their feet to lose some of the states where california is one of them where they can go places that don't have this. if you don't think that will happen, just watch. >> tom: are also seeing a lot of local law enforcement officials like sheriffs in california pushing back against their state leadership saying we are the ones on the front line of law enforcement and we don't like what you're doing for political purposes. >> kennedy: there are a lot of people who say they like it but really don't. we are now on the verge of a historic moment as the u.s. prepares to open our embassy in jerusalem is days from now. fulfilling a promise made to israel more than two decades ago. and guess who from this very couch is going to be there? don't give it away.

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>> harris: you can actually schedule this bit of history and is huge. it's going to be made on monday when the united states embassy

will officially open in jerusalem. as it begins its move from tel aviv. monday's ceremony, the inauguration of the calling on the ground there will come one day after israel celebrates his 70th anniversary as a state. and as palestinians prepared to mark what they call a day of catastrophe referring to the displacement of arabs after the establishment of israel in 1948. the ceremony also comes just days after the most serious military confrontation to date between israel and iran. amid continued fallout over president trump's decision to drop out of the iran nuclear deal. bring it to the couch, this is put new emphasis on the stories without numbered but the timing of this has brought in the united nations. where are we right now? the first time ever iran has directly fired on israel. >> tom: at the moment of high tension in the middle east without question, not that there's that seems everything is coming to a head right now.

it just going to be adding fuel to the fire. another reason why we shouldn't have done it, absolutely not. but i'm confident that it is going to be an exciting time, we know the united nations is not supportive of our decision to move the embassy but it has boiled the landscape and reshuffle the deck a little bit. >> harris: it's interesting. you talk about what iran is doing, is that would force them to hate america? they were chanting death to america before, during the deal and immediately after. >> kennedy: for those of us who live to the 70s and 80s, was memories feel pretty recent and very much ongoing. as i ran lobs rockets into israel, you realize they are not trustworthy and they are really not searching for a peaceful energy policy, they are aggressive and hostile and maybe they knew the iron dome would keep out the majority of those missiles and maybe they were hoping they would break through

and find a weakness in israel's defense system but in any case, i don't think they are trustworthy and it's very interesting seeing the shift to a more pro-israel administration which is quite a contrast from the obama years. >> harris: what i'm curious about, the rest of the world looking at us, why are you pulling out of the deal, i wonder what some of those european allies are thinking this morning. i ran was doing the side deals with them just a couple days ago to try to stay in the deal. >> trish: am hopeful they will follow suit. i'm hopeful they will take their cues from us on this one. for monetary reasons for them to do so, all those european companies and invested hundreds of millions of dollars and iran are and are expecting to continue doing business with iran, we are not going to be able to do business with them. the french oil company, we are not going to do business with them if they are doing business with the iranians to this is for sanctions coming into being in a very real way for having a very real effect. we are strong on them sanctions, those european companies are over there they're not quite a

doing business with us and we are more important than iran. >> harris: to go along with that, with what trish is saying, we saw a brand-new german ambassador ric grenell who we all know welcoming us to be a contributor here at the network sometime ago. but we just saw him say to germany, you are doing business with iran and basically what you said it. you're going to have to cut that out. >> lisa: will see how much hardball the trump administration wants to play in regards to these sanctions and some of our allies like france and germany in their interactions with iran. we are dealing with a country as evidenced by the recent intelligence gathering by israel, dealing with a country that has long want to be a nuclear power. we are either dealing with us now are dealing with that ten years down the road when iran is then a much richer country who has asked us to the international financial system and i would rather deal with that now. the sanctions are what brought iran to the table in the first

place, so why wouldn't we want to get tough on iran particularly the fact that the iran deal has not tempered their ambitions. stay when we do have time for this. history unfolds, you can watch it right here. i'll be anchoring out numbered over time from jerusalem this monday at 1:00 p.m. eastern. now we will be right back. (vo) lately, i've been selective about what i eat. this new beneful select 10, has 10 amazing ingredients! (avo) with real beef, plus accents of sunflower oil and apples, suddenly your dog's a health nut. (vo) the old me woulda been all over that. (avo) new beneful select 10. 10 ingredients. 1 thoughtful recipe still nervous [about buying a house? a little. thought i could de-stress with some zen gardening.

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>> thanks so much to tom dupree

for making the couch hot. you enjoy it? >> absolutely. >> we're back monday noon eastern. here's harris. >> harris: a fox news alert, a victory lap for president trump as he says america is being respected again. let's go "outnumbered overtime." i'm harris faulkner. a triumphant president trump after the release of three north american prisoners after president trump says america is getting the respect it deserves. he also took a dig at president obama at a rally in indiana. >> president obama paid $1.8 billion for hostages. those hostages came out with respect. we didn't pay for them. we're going to set the table. we're going to make a great deal for the world for