two powerful hours and many powerful guests live on a saturday. because we care. because we like to hear people yelling and your reaction to them yelling. "the five" is next. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> hello. i am jesse watters with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams, and greg gutfeld in new york. this is "the five." >> our now slogan in 2020. do you know what it is? keep america great. >> [cheers and applause]. >> because we are doing so well. that in another few years when we start the heavy campaign, make america great again would not work out well. it's keep america great because that's where we are headed.

>> [cheers and applause]. >> president trump putting the cap on a great week with a big rally in indiana. three american prisoners are home. >> in singapore i will be meeting with kim jong-un to pursue a future of peace and security for the whole world. >> [cheers and applause]. e >> you remember everybody on the fake news where he said he will get us into a nuclear war! >> [booing]. >> you know what gets you into nuclear wars? weakness. >> and mr. trump shows the glaring differences between him and his predecessor. >> president obama paid 1.8-billion dollars for

hostages. >> [booing]. >> you, not me, the hostages came out with respect. we didn't pay for them. they came out for nothing. the others came out for 1.8-billion dollars in cash. you can believe that? >> [laughing]. greg, you don't like this phrase, but a lot to unpack. >> i hate that phrase. the rally is his counter-programming. when you -- you have all of these achievements. an amazing week for the president. the media is still focussed on lawyers and porn stars and more lawyers and deals and contracts. they can't bear to cover this. it's up to him to do his own achievement counter-programming. you watch it. you have to remind yourself, there are a lot of firsts happening here. he does voices.

and they said that we -- that's a very entertaining thing. i like it when he tells stories like he did about bobby knight. if you are shocked by this -- going to a cont concert and being shocked it's loud. this is who he is. david brooks admitted saying that trump's past dealing with the various characters in area of real estates make him the before person for north korea. kim jong-un doesn't put people in ament. or maybe he does. >> greg makes the point that

president obama doesn't have to list his accomplishments, because he had the entire media doing it for him. this is an opportunity for the president to tout his accomplishments in indiana the hoosiers state. with sleepy joe donnelly. >> this is where the president is at his best. he gets invigorated no matter what else is going on. he gets to see the people and talk to him. coming on the heels of north korea, who would not feel good about bringing americans home healthy to their families? hopefully we can work in

cooperations to are the country. >> juan, he secured the release of the americans without paying them or trading terrorists. >> this is wild! first of all -- the rally was like you go to the zoo and you see the zoo keepers come around this time of night. because of the evening feeding and they throw them meat. how about immigration? they want to tear down your border borders. what about bill belichek. they throw them in with indiana coaches. >> they hate the patriots now. >> what about pelosi and obama? throw them in there and lock

them up. >> this has been going on for 18 months. >> no, no, this is new. i think the mid-terms. he didn't talk about 2018 once he got beyond mike brawn the candidate for u.s. senate in indiana. he started talking about 2020 and talked about keep america great. aren't you supposed to be working for your fellow republicans? the key for me in terms of politics? tax cut plan hasn't proven to be effective. >> that's your opinion. >> and the poll's opinion. here's the thing. last night he said when it comes to tacklers -- taxes, the democrats led by pelosi want to raise your taxes.

it's these people who will raise them. >> thanks for taking my job. we have some of that sound from pelosi. let's hear it and have kennedy react. >> nancy pelosi said yesterday, she wants to end the tax cuts and raise your taxes. is that like good politics. it's not about politics. think about that from a political standpoint. i don't think her party was too happy. they want to raise your taxes and yourtacts. -- tax cuts. they want open borders where everyone flies into our country. that is not happening. >> kennedy, juan is wrong about the tax cuts. >> oh my god. >> democrats have plenty of things they can run on. there are always things you can judge within an administration. democrats with look at things the president hasn't done perfectly and alter those and that can be your new plan.

democrats are talking about ending the tax cuts. people getting a couple of grand extra a year, that hurts them. that's not just crumps. if you had $200 extra every month in your paycheck, that can be helpful to a family of 4 and a good trip to costco. what you are doing now is offering resistance. that false flat. if you are going to super progressive, it won't be this victorious mid-term. i want to get back to north korea. >> first, let me respond to what you said. you have to understand it's not about the crumbs.

for republicans it blew up the deficit. the republicans have been liberals spend wildly. >> if you raise taxes and raise spending, not only what democrats always want to do. that's what they want to do right now. raise taxes to fund domestic programs but they won't cut miltary spending or entilingments and the bernie sanders part of your party wants to give people free college and amnesty for those with outstanding college debt. i want to talk about north korea and address something the president said. he was talking to the naysayerers who were up in arms about the tweets and rhetoric he was using against kim jong-un. i think that is fair. we didn't know -- there is no way people can foresee the outcome. it gave hillary clinton and people like that to say, if i

were president, i would have said nice things to kim jong-un and he is calling him little rocket man and we are all going to die. then there is a huge 90 degree shift from that. now we have 3 american hostages home and on the road to a diplomat sit down. >> the singapore summit. >> would hillary clinton have gotten us here? >> don't count your eggs before they hatch. you are way ahead of the curve. >> greg, he has peace, prosperity and security. isis is dead. peace on the peninsula. i will walk away from the table if i have to and people have an extra $2,000 in their pocket. that's important when the left talks about stormy and

impeachment. >> america is like disneyland. the media is stuck in the teacups. they are nauseated going around and around. how did iran begin? angry tweet. but they are tweeting. >> yes. >> they're actually -- >> [overlapping talking]. >> but there is communication. it's negative communication, but this is how north korea started. it could happen again. if he keeps winning like this, the democrats -- >> quick, looking at the mid-term elections. we talked about it yesterday and the tightening of the gap

looking favorable for the democrats and now favorable for the republicans for the house. feeling that as well. and the crowd. >> yes. >> absolutely. >> sick ever web -- sick of winning. you can see it on his face. >> if trump switches parties and becomes a democrat. >> he changed parties before. >> [laughing]. >> he will run with oprah. >> oh! >> it's facebook friday. ♪ the best simple salad ever?

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it's about donald trump. >> the success in the foreign policy field might be enough to distract attention away from the robert mueller investigation into russia and the criminal investigation of his personal attorney and the stormy daniels affair. >> he is keen to get a win out of this. >> what do you see donald trump doing and thinking there as a leader and as a wanna be reality tv character? >> in vh1 they would have called him a thirsty. >> msnbc spent just 30 seconds on trump freeing the hostages last night. we talked about how much time different networks spent on it. we had the trump on here at fox. what do you make of this?

media bias or just their programming? >> well, okay. they are vegan restaurants. they can't serve meat. their audiences are vegetarians. this is a metaphor. they can't handle the meat. which is the good news. what the media needs is the pharmaceutical grade mdma, to treat their ptsd, their president trump stress disorder. this won't get better for them. we are seeing a ramping up of interesting and positive news. as long as this keeps going up, their irrationality will get worse. i am worried about them. they are swearing a lot on tv. i think they are losing their grip. i am concerned.

i am like the dr. phil of cable. >> [laughing]. >> he is humorous this guy. >> he is right about the democrats swearing. they use this technique -- pom perez and others have used the gd word and even the s-word to get traction. it doesn't really work. i come back to democrats. there are a lot of independents out. there they don't like the president but love the results. democrats have to figure out how to talk to those people. if those are the only people you focus on, you will have significant victories. democrats have not been able to do that and most media outlets are not able to do. that they are running on the 2015 playbook. how do we keep this brash,

narcissistic billionaire from becoming president? it's like watching the clintons over and over again. i love in living color but don't want it as part of my every day politics. >> all right. perfect. jesse? >> speaking of fly girls. here comes watters. >> what? >> i should have never said that. >> [laughing]. >> my point is that the media slams trump when he succeeds. imagine what they would say if he was failing. could you imagine if there was a scandal? if he allowed isis to take over a 3rd of iraq. imagine what they would say then, juanful i can't even. i think the media is sick of winning. they need the mdma.

they won't give him credit for anything. if he brings koreas together, they will call him the flip flopper because he got rid of the border. the conception of trump is wrong. they can't give him credit because that would admit they were wrong in predicting everything he would do would lead to failure. they don't want to give him positive coverage because they believe they are powerful enough to boost his approval rating. they don't tell the truth. they tell the audience what they want to hear. everything impugns his motives. he is demonized. the media can't allow there to be two competing sets of political philosophy. one has to be good and one has to be evil. he never even fist pumped after one of the hostages were murdered like barack obama or whispered sweet nothings into

the ear of the russian president or gave them crash. all of those things he didn't do. but criticized for having a meeting with little rocket man. >> juan? >> i feel like i just got blown off the stage. way to go, jesse. i don't know. that was terrific. >> thank. >> you but laughable. >> [laughing]. week>> the president yesterday at the rally he said the press will be glad when i am gone. no, they will be sad because their ratings will go down, down. he is right. >> true. >> what the media has given this guy a ticket to heaven. idea he said look at those guys in the back. the audience boo, boo, boo. >> a love-hate relationship. >> you come on and just say boo-boo. you don't understand. the media created donald trump

because they love to put him on the air constantly. the liberals complain they give him too much leeway. they never challenged him on facts. >> wait a minute. >> [overlapping talking]. >> let me come to the big point. >> can i say something quickly? >> sure, go right ahead. >> the media obsession with donald trump is like athiests obsession with god who want to prove god doesn't exist and people who believe in god are wrong and the faithful are idiots. but they are still upset with god. >> thank you. here's the thing: what if there was benghazi? i will get you a subscription to the paper. last week 4 americans killed in

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>> ♪ >> controversy. swirling around stormy daniels lawyer. while michael is exposing michael cohen's business dealings, he has skeletons in his own closet. a coffee chain he co-owned, owes $5 million in back taxes. the treasury department is investigate the possible leak of bank records and criticizing stormy daniels's attorney for his frequent tv appearances. >> i would not be on tv 6 hours a day. you are somebody who is in the media and watching the media is a guy losing sight of the position he is in. you get the position he is already auditioning for his next

tv spot. >> this is like 2 lawyers in the rink. this week, avanati had the bank records on michael cohen and big companies were playing to get access to trump. here comes now a back lash, saying wait a minute. your hands are dirty too, mr. avanati. how does this play out? >> he is newly representing the president. the president felt there was an absence of support for him and oversight in terms of the investigation and the mueller process. you bring somebody in. this is rudy giuliani's style representing the president on television and in terms of avanati, he is fair game. he's been all over the networks making his case for his client. that's what lawyers do. if you are into it, you are into it. if not, you are know. -- are not.

>> you think rudy giuliani is hitting back at avanati not cohen? >> no, i am saying there is a variety of back and forth. rudy giuliani represents the president and added to his team and it's his job he won't debate him. and michael cohen can represent himself as a lawyer. >> do you think there is anything more than two lawyers take pot shots at each other? >> i do. i think guy is in a fiscal hole and trying to dig his way out of it. he owes millions to the irs. he owes it personally and his desolved partnership owes is. he is sued across 50 states. fleeced investors allegedly but accuses the president of being a

fraudster. he said he is not a political operator, but he has this guy's bank records? how did those get given to him? that's why the treasury opened up an investigation into him. he is a player. because he worked for rob emmanuel and donateed to democrats left and right. he is on a mission to get a tv show and raise money so he can afford his tax liabilities. >> kennedy, i listen to the litany that jesse just ran through. is this just an effort to undercut someone who is doing damage to the president? >> no. i think michael avanati is doing damage to himself. each if he were going after president obama i think he would still be seen as being self-serving and obox nows. -- obnoxious. when he first came out i thought

this is someone you want. then you realized that he is just out for himself. he no longer talks about stormy daniels. he is no longer trying to get to the truth. he is trying to get in front of a microphone. the world has enough blow hazard -- hards. we don't need one more tv lawyer who makes other lawyers hire their own lawyers. >> it's absolutely modern-day and i don't think there is a market for his talent. >> greg, that was your favorite show. >> morning joe. >> yes. >> and favorite guy donny. think you agreed with him? >> i faded out when he spoke. avanati is getting free air time

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>> [laughing]. >> i am trying to teach my girls know to gossip. not to give in to the urge to make other people feel bad in order to make themselves feel better. is it a losing battle when adult women are doing the same thing? >> i think that should be something that is taught to everyone. it should be taught equally to boys and girls. listen, let's treat each other well -- regardless of your gender. that's something we are moving past and we should. everybody should treat people well, men, women, child. have kindness and compassion and treat people nice. >> that's what not you said in the greenroom, kimberly. >> [laughing]. >> i heard what you said to juan. >> you are a news gossip. >> who the biggest gossip on the show? >> kimberly. >> that is not.

>> maybe you, do i love gossip. >> you love gossip. you traffic in it. >> that's the best word. gossip is a currency. >> guys do it too. >> it protects yourself from rivals. talking about aggression. if you are a smaller person, that's your tool for survival. it's about efluge. aggression and gossip are the weapons people have to protect themselves from rivals. that's what kimberly told me. >> come on. >> men tend to act more aggressively than taller counter parts. they had a game called the dictator game. men could have 8 one dollar coins or sprinkle them around the office. the short guys took all the coins. >> i guess they are insecure.

. >> oh, cheap shot. >> what i was i taking a shot at? >> chris. >> you always protect trump. i like that about you. >> [laughing]. >> this passive aggressive behavior by men -- among women i am fascinated. i have twin grand-daughters. they are rough with each other. it's not just gossip. they punch. >> i think that's assault. >> no, no. >> i have a boy and plays with his cousin and communicating. >> in high school i thought girls were better. >> better dictators? >> about relationships and caring about each other. >> jesse, break the tie. are women stinky and ugly or beautiful queens to be worshiped? >> i will go out on a limb. we'll be right back.

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twitter question from brent. why do i read that? jesse, because you looked right at me. >> the trump foundation. >> nice! >> [laughing]. >> i think the money would be put to a really good cause. >> wow! >> his will be to the clinton foundation. >> he is on the record against the clinton foundation. >> everything is about trump with you. >> listen, i was just trying a fun line. >> what about you? >> i would definitely direct it to children. i think hungry kids is terrible. maybe i would do that. i think kids need to get out and travel go somewhere. kids think their whole world is that neighborhood. >> i would use a million dollars to send children to the woods.

go! it's one way. learn to walk. >> there are a lot of good causes. we have segmentes about professors. how a fund for an amazing fair and independent thinking university? greg won't have been to be upset about the professors. >> trump university, that's a great idea. >> [laughing]. >> here we go again. >> already all right kenned? >> i would buy myself a $1 million car and drive around and give people hugs. it would be an act of charity. >> that's innovative. >> i would open up the gutfeld museum. you could learn about me. it would be free. it would be pictures of me and statues. >> we get a lot of that. >> and monologues.

>> which i will tease later. >> this is good: kennedy? >> oh, hanible lecter. the ultimate non-vegan. >> he is everyone's favorite villian. people are intrigued by him. >> yes. >> kimberly. >>? >> i don't know. i have to think of a villian. i don't know. is cruella the villian? >> yes. >> sophisticated female. >> exactly what i was aiming for. >> what about you, jesse? >> james bond theme music. i will go with the guy that --

jaws. richard something. >> i can't think of his last name. >> richard branson. >> [laughing]. >> juan? >> i think gold finger. heck, he was's wild guy. >> i would say scaramucci. >> [laughing]. >> from man with the golden gun. >> wasn't that his name. >> [laughing]. >> he had 3 nipples. do you remember that? >> no, i do not remember that. >> he had three. look it up. >> not scaramucci. all right. >> i know what it is. a grilled cheese sandwich. >> juan? >> ice cream. >> no way i am getting out of prison alive. >> [laughing]. >> true. >> kennedy? >> death by chocolate.

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>> very nice. >> happy mother's day. >> and "watters world" saturday at 8 clock and i am on the "story" with martha maccallum later tonight. >> picking up on jesse's theme. i want to make sure you remember that sunday is mother's day. have you broken into that last-minute dive into what to get the special lady. 40% of moms say all they want is something sentimental that expresses you love them. let's give a group hug to the mothers on our staff. >> yes. >> megan with her baby. >> and another with her child. >> and our pal kennedy and her children. >> oh! >> those are my girls. >> and my pal kimberly with her son. >> terrific. and here's my wife with her 3

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now texas is investigating her to see if she penned them in. >> it's a lot of this happening. >> yes. >> the cute little white face. >> that doesn't just happen with animals my friend. >> [laughing]. >> i had a wild weekend. >> indeed. >> i learned a lot. >> all right. kimberly. >> another monologue. >> all right. it's a fabulous friday. we want to say congratulations to rick the fabulous weatherman here at fox news channel and came out with a new color for the weatherman umbrella. i will give this one to you for mother's day. this is the pink color. thanks to susan for a wonderful job at the fox news channel. >> there she is. >> thanks for your efforts and god bless. >> very nice.

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