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>> pete, how does it feel to be a winner? >> where is my trophy. >> have a good saturday everybody. >> we are trying to make sure we are making america great everyday in every way. the best way to do that is stop talking about discrimination and come together as a nation. >> i'm more offended as an african-american woman then you will every be. this business about making america great again. it's your president that's dividing the country. it's the fight that's going viral. democratic congresswoman maxine waters. congressman kelly is here. so is this guy filling rage
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up-and-down the halls. mick is feeling backlash. he's here. one month from today it all goes down. the big sit-down the world will be watching. president trump is meeting with north koreas kim jong-un. what they did today in a sign of good faith that has many hoping more than every that big progress is made a month from today. president trump is tearing that nuclear deal up. why does he hate with donald trump is doing now? we'll ask you. all right, they used to say the weekends were for relaxing and not worrying about anything. then we had trump time. know just north korea but iran.
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we are following the koreans. there are signs the iranians are doing the opposite. digging their feet in on an agreement they say were sound. they plan to meet with the iranians no matter what we say. julian has more on the latest. >> thousands of protesters have taken to the streets to oppose president trump's decision to pullout of the nuclear deal that's been in place since 2016. many modern iranians are angry about the latest move. many will side with hard liners who encourage iranians to be suspicious of the west. they are threatening to resume faster pace uranium making.
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it will take china, russia, and briton to hammer out the past. this is a last stitch effort to try to preserve the deal. while they preserve to be moving in a different gregg. secretary pompeo we object on the most important foreign policy trip. he's brimming with the summit. this will be held june 12th in singapore. >> the united states will work with north korea with our south korean friends.
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>> a clear lifeline. moments ago a press release claims they plan to hold a ceremony for dismantling their nuclear test ground. all tunnels of the test ground will be blown up, they claim. journalist from china, russia, and more will be invited per the foreign ministry. they also claim the u.s. and korea has a clear vision and what they seek to achieve at the summit. after a year of fiery rhetoric this is a remarkable turn around. >> it really is. i don't know what's real. the nortnorth korean leadership vier this, you know, love and hug approach we are using today. julian, thank you so much.
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>> all right, rebecca is here. commander, i'll raise this with you first. this is a very did i have resistant north korean leader than the one who was threatening the world and united states a little more than a few months ago. now setting the stage for big concessions on paper with more to come. what do you make of it? >> it's guarded optimism. it's unpresidented. i still go by the mantra of let's verify everything the north koreans want to do and trust them giving the 30 year track record. none the less, we have seen phenomenal progress on the front lane. good solid groundwork for what will occur between president trump and kim jong-un. >> rebecca, i don't normally catch you with breaking
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developments. the latest concession where they would allow people to see what they are deacon instructing. would they be able to discern what they are doing. >> no, we have to get experts in there. >> wait a minute, are you saying prompter readers are not pert -- experts? >> that's what i'm definitely saying. we have to get experts in there. i'm hoping about the progress that will be made. this was to set the conditions and squeeze the regime so kim understood he didn't have a chose. if he wanted a relationship with other countries, if he wanted to survive. president trump was threatening with credible military force because that would be a way we
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would go if they didn't reelingish their weapons. kim got the message and taking a different path. he is making a decision to be a different leader and change the regime. these nucks got the united states to have these conversations. guarded optimism, distrust, and verify. >> i like that. commander when we look at what they have to offer now. how do you enter into the talks. the president said he would walk away from the table if he did event see promising signs. i'm assuming sure solid ways to verify the north koreans are honoring this commitment. >> first we need to establish what does denuclearization mean
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and detail. >> what does tormenter us? i assume no nuclear activity? >> it means dismantling a nuclear weapons program down to zero. they remove the equipment or the equipment is destroyed. they do it in a verifiable manor. giving the united states and i.a.e.ae.a. going in and making sure there isn't any development of the program. >> you know you have to cut this out by cutting the spending. a lot of lawmakers say what you are cutting isn't substantial. the budget director mick is here to respond a this. david.
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all right, there is a measure to keep the lights on through the enof the fiscal year, estimat essentially octob. conservatives wondered how can we justify it. the president wasn't a big fan of it. the president said never again. they are trying to do trimming on the side. conservatives say $15 billion worth of spending. it gets confusing. no one better to explain this than the budgeting director mick. >> thank you for having me. i'm happy to chat about it a bit. >> maybe you can indulge me.
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they proposed roughly $16 billion worth of cuts. that's not much. you say they are not doing enough. >> a few things on that. $15 billion is still a lot of money. if i could change one thing in washington i would outlaw the word billion or trillion. it's $15 billion. you do that a few times and you are talking about real money. a lot of them are cosponsoring the bill. mark walker the chairman of the republican study committee. they are supporting the effort. i recognize the criticism that it's not how it looks. i try to talk about doing something like this myself. the fact of the matter we had various objections about can you figure out where it doesn't go afterward. we were like, look, if that's fine, let's go and book the
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$15 billion for savings. if we can find a bunch of taxpayer money not being spent at all how is that a bad thing. plus, i promise not to go on too long it revitalizes the decision. it used to be an ordinary nar house cleaning type of too that every administration used to use. if we jumpstart that again it has great potential for savings. we think it's a good idea. >> it's obvious that mitch mcconnell said both sides agree with this and the president knew about this. what was in that $1.3 trillion measure. both sides wrote off on it. did the president or his people know pretty much what was in it? >> sure, obviously we knew what
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the top line numb bier was. that was what was agreed to. the specific line item in the house. again, that's been done. i spoke about that before. we didn't like it very much. we didn't like the level of spending in that bill. it was the extortion payment we had to pay. keep in mind, that bill, unlike the rescission bill, it took 60 votes in the senate. we had to buy eight or ten democratic votes. we would have liked to been able to fund the millio military bute democrats wouldn't let us do that. you come back to the rescission because of the special rules of the budget act it's only a 50 vote rule in the senate. we are back in the same place like tra's and tax bill.
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a lot of good things that come out of the legislature will be under that 50 vote rule in the senate which has a lot of contrast and what it actually looks like. >> you have come under fire -- >> for a lot of different things. >> some say you pick and chose where you go to target your spending cutting. you said not long ago. if you were a lobbyist that never gave us money i talked to you. if you didn't give us money i didn't talk to you. that spawned criticism from a lot of democrats that say they would like to look at your calendar back to when you were a congressman. to see who you met with and if it parlayed favors. >> it's been fun dealing with
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that. it's niece when someone takes that out of context. it said that was an under pinning of our democracy. i was exaggerating to make a point. i met with lobbyist that didn't contribute and did. the point was what's important is you get involved. no one will never know what is as important to you until you tell them. you can't rely on lobbyist. you have to get involved. >> sounds like lobbyist get to go to the front of your line. you say what, absolutely not. i think my calendar at the bureau is actually public. it was something taken completely out of context. it's a hatchet job and gives journalist a bad name. when i say a i don't expect you
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to recount it exactly as a. i was saying we need you to get involve. if you head the whole text, later on in this same segment i said look, i need you to get involved. i don't care if you are a democrat or republicans. i said you need to get involved in the process. it's a shame when i know some folks in the media hate the judge that lives in the house so much they are willing to do a character assassination. >> let's do that then indulge you. the house behind you is the meeting where a number of people was talking about taking over the cia. whether it votes weird situation there. the communications aid said he's
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dying any way. she repeatedly, i believe cidny mccain. what do you think of those remarks. >> they are awful. that was said in a private meeting inside the white house. it's like, you might say something nasty about me off the air and doesn't have impact. when you come on-air that's a problem. it was a private meeting. it was a joke. it was a badly considered joke. >> where you at the meeting? >> absolutely, i was not. >> some are calling for her firing, do you think that's right. >> i don't, you have to have freedom to speak in a private meeting. we have all said things in private that we would never say publicly. i think she handled it appropriately.
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i thought she called the daughter. i am disappointed that someone would leak that out of a private meeting. >> there is a lot of leaking going on here. a lot of laking i -- leaking in the cabinet meeting. maybe it's an intense environment. it's not guilty the first cabinet to experience that. who is getting this stuff out to people. >> happies happen all of the thyme in the white house and house of representatives. i remember talking on the phone to a colleague. i was standing at my laptop looking at a website. a reporter was reporting on my phone conversation as i was on the phone. what happened with the mccain comment yesterday or two days ago was different. this was a private meeting. the leak was designed to hurt that person.
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also, completely ignored the harm it would do to the family which is doubly inconacid -- inconacid rate. the press was in there for some of that meeting. for a private meeting, someone had a bad joke. that's troubling and i hope they get to the bottom of that one. >> you were right. she called megan mccain. >> which is the right way to handle that situation. >> i know you want them to makin' devils advocatal rates permanent. the senate is not as kind on it. your thoughts on it. >> if we can do it again through budget regulation it could be 50. that goes back to the world being different. we are interested in looking at trying to make those tax cuts permanent. we only did it for one reason
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which was the scoring and methodology i go used under the budget act of 1974 to get that vote in the senate. i put half of your audience to sleep. >> i do that quiet comfortably on my own, sir. i understand what you are saying. thank you for taking the time. i appreciate it. >> thank you, neil. when we come back a lot om companies are apologizing for dealing with him in the first place. the heated exchange on the house floor. the principal player after this. (burke) vengeful vermin.
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>> you are calling into question how this stuff got in the prosecutors hands, right. >> yeah, i think at what happens is you start to question whether lady justice has a blindfold on or not. when certain things get leaked and when you start to see democrats show up in the hands n the hands of did i have rents individuals. we have been questioning this for the scope of investigations. where we are going. is it going off the rails. it's time we get some real answers and time for talk is over. all right, so many republicans are upset with the attorney general and continues right now to launch a probe into a lot of records.
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what got out and when. taparticularly with robert cohe. >> we'll start with the special council. the electrically team said they would make a decision if president trump were to sit-down with robert muller by may 17t may 17th. that's the one year anniversary of when robert muller was appointed. they told fox news the outside legal team is waiting for information from muller. it's hard to make a decision if president trump will sit-down with muller by the date. one thing at play is the summit in north korea. they will make a decision on the interview. they will delay that decision and make it after the summit. they are telling fox that any interview will happen after the summit in singapore. it will be difficult to prepare
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donald trump before then. this is after president trump's long time tern faces questions about his payment to adult film storm stormy daniels. they are trying to distance themmive after he pay him $600,000. they made aequat, big mistake by hiring cohen. president trump is criticizing the coverage of all of this. thetrumed -- the trump administration in this current trial. it has resulted in charges for 19 people. 3com anies have faced charges. four of them were former aids to the campaign. >> thank you, very much. let's get the read on this.
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judge, first of all it's education time. is there anything wrong at all with a company seeking out some representative of an administration once sworn into power to try to get connections. at&t regrets the moves. they said it happened from my predecessor. is it that big of a deal? >> the short answer to your question, neil, first of all good morning. the short answer is no. there is nothing wrong with this and companies do it all of the time. sometimes companies will hire someone who they think is of little value for them to keep them from working for the competition. i will first sign the contract. in the michael cohen case not
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only was he of no value but of negative value. people now have lost their jobs and agreat deal of money was waisted. most of the companies decided after the first meeting he wasn't going to be able to produce as represented. the question is what did he represent he would produce. did he represent something he knew he couldn't produce or just represent i can give you insight into the president's thinking because i used to be his lawyer for ten years and my office was two doors down from his. >> sounds like they are damming michael cohen after the fact. they now regret association with him. it's unfair to michael cohen and extremely unfair to the president. your thoughts in that regard he would have to investigate there
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is a quid pro quo relationship. even there just a simple meeting with the presidents schedule. he wouldn't know about it, right. >> i think the chases of him knowing about this are extremely slim. pay me $600,000 and i'll produce donald trump for you at lunch and you will get great insight to his thinking. he did that without consulting the president. he did that without the president's consent. without his ability to do it that would be fraud. >> not on the part of the president. >> correct. i also want to address, since i'm on the phone. sounded like the voice of mark meadows in a clip.
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let me tell you how the government found out. >> really quick, judge. >> he deposited more money and the banks under the law are required to report it and reported it. >> we'll have more after this includingli congressman mike kelly, stick around. of firmness, comfort and support your sleep number setting... for your best... sleep... ever. in the morning, you'll discover the amazing effects the bed is having on your sleep quality... your sleepiq score. and snoring? does your bed do that? right now during sleep number's semi-annual sale its' the lowest price ever on the queen c4 mattress, only $1099 - save $500. ends soon. visit sleepnumber.com for a store near you.
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>> he's down here making a speech for this dishonorable president. i reserve the balance of my time. i do not yield one second to you. not one second. can't we all just get along. what happened there? we called congresswoman waters,
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we haven't heard back. i wouldn't give up on this. don't go away, we are following another development that might fly in the face of consensus. i've haired the rs will face a blue waive. one billionaire just gave money to make sure that didn't happen. he did this after the contest if four states in which the moderate republicans were backed by the most money won and stands a good chance of toppling some, in this case senators in states that donald trump won big. sheldon believes there is a spillover effect. let's get the read from kathy and nan hay ward. is it your belief that sheldon who has held back is dropping
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money on what he sees that most of us don't. >> yeah, absolutely. i was in israel with he and his wife in 2011 with the congressional delegation. he's a passionate supporter of israel. he's pleased with the president's progress in north korea. that reflects on what he's doing with iran. he understands the president is a friend of israel. >> that would make him place bets on more republicans in the house. >> we had a great week in the primaries. politically he agrees with the president. >> he's not dumb either. he always liked the president but believes people have been getting it wrong. >> everyone elected could win in
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thinthe generals. we see nancy saying she won't back down and hillary clinton saying she will be very involved in the midterms. it will be the same strategy. >> do you think the democrats did get ahead of their speed and shouldn't sound so cocky. >> they are raising more money. he's filling in. >> not if you went individual district by district. >> it's an energized party. he's getting the money sooner than before. >> now he's triply concerned. >> you follow the money, what do you make of it? >> it's not as important as it was before social media. it's an indicator of support.
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it doesn't guarantee you winning as much as it used to. there is more grass roots stuff. >> what is that that maybe, this happens all of the time. it happened in the last election. you jump to a conclusion. incumbents are leaving. there is a get out of dodge mentality. >> the blue wave is shrinking. they said he saved this in taxes. he doesn't want to look like he's making bad bets. it looks like they need money now and it could help and swing back. he's trying to look smarter. >> regardless, who sees the house turning regardless. forget about the senate which is lyses -- less likely. >> history shows it might turn.
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you will lose seats. the democrats are energized. >> it would take 23 to topple it. >> i was in the 2010 wave and the difference, there are a lot of differences between then and now. the president is backed my most americans that hi's stabilized the economy. >> the tax cuts don't remain. >> the democrats are not duoing anything differently. there might be concerned about the enthusiasm gap. a lot of has to people are opposed to president trump. >> if it's a reflection on the president maybe he won't be as damming to them. >> if republicans get out and vote. i know it can be hard to get out and vote. they don't have anything to
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worry about. the only thing they have to worry about is getting out and voting. >> republicans do this more. they turnout for midterm elections. >> the tax cut message is not as appealing. they don't have the momentum with obama. >> i see them losing seats. i believe they will gain in the senate. i said said donald trump would win. >> north korea is going to dismantle their nuclear seat. >> it could be the wins from republicans. no one is wrong until november. >> all right, hillary clinton is taking a look at this and looking backwards at the election she lost. she had a new reason for that. take a look. >> is it fear, there is this
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anger and rage about women seeking power. women exercising power. people would all of the time say i'm not against women as they wear a t-shirt saying horrible things. i'm just not for that woman. okay, fine. the reelection happened. forget i got 3 million more votes. it's over. we go onto who will be next. >> what did you think of that? >> i believe she needs to look at what she herself did wrong. she will be involved in the midterms and continue to say these kinds of things. >> she lost because it's a shovist country. >> he wasn'tlikeble and didn't have a good message. it was i'm with her and not what can i do for you.
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vote to me because she's so mean to me. >> we have a lot of republican senators and governors. on that level did it disturb you? >> her comments? >> yes. >> people are trying to figure out how she lost. >> i don't think she's trying to figure it out. >> she said more men had a problem with females. >> some people were quoted saying they wouldn't vote for a woman. >> she said she had 3 million more votes. was it 3 million more women. >> she did have 3 million more votes. she's not wrong. >> was it a sexist statement? >> people have said that. i'm asking you. >> the statement may have been sexist. people have said it. >> you supported the man that ran against me. come on.
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>> yeah. >> you weren't her ideal woman. >> apparently not. >> she wasn't the woman for a lot of people. it wasn't that they were antiwoman but that woman. >> it's her construct. >> i didn't vote for hire and i don't hate women. >> let me write that down. >> put that in my file. >> the electoral college. >> that's how we elect our president. >> there are people that don't vote for a woman. there are people who wouldn't vote for a black person president. there are people who didn't vote for donald trump because of what he said about women. >> you can chase this all day. >> you have to overcome that group and get enough people who like you. the people that didn't win weren't likable to a lot of the country. >> you won the electal vote. >> -- electoral vote.
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ahead of jerusalem is the official capital of israel. a lot of violence and protests ahead of all of that. benjamin hall all of this will go down on monday. it won't go down quiet. >> it won't and we don't expect it to. it's been a big week. president trump pulls out of the iran deal. followed by israel's response by taking out most of the facilities. that will come as well.
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thousands of officers will be deployed to secure the perimeter. donald trump's daughter and more will be attending. president trump also tweeted saying big week next week when the american israel will be moved to jerusalem. congratulations in all. he won't be here in person but will make a speech via video link. you said this comes with some protests. more than six wreaks of protest along the gaza border. palestinians morn the katacitfy. thousands could burst through the fence into israel on that day. recognizing engineer russrecognl has been a promise made by many
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presidents. >> great reporting benjamin. benjamin hall is in engineer je. president trump has kept his promises especially about drug
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that violent crime went up 18% in san francisco. in la, mayor antonio villaraigosa put more police on the streets and cut violent crime in half. california's police chiefs trust antonio for governor. all right, the president made good on a campaign promise to bring down drug prices that are high are in this country than other countries. the president said i'll do something about this. here is the weird thing.
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the drug stocks moved up after hearing about that. we have johnson here to talk about these things. >> at the end of the day even though the pertain is good it won't change that much for the form suit calpharmaceutical com. that's why we saw them trade higher. let's look at some of the details. we have three of the companies. what happened on friday, this is the reaction you are talking about. a few of the ideas is give the government better leverage with the drug companies. critics are saying it won't effect their pricing and it may or may not give money in the hands of the u.s. consumers. these are the pharmacy benefit managers when you heard this on friday. you have express scripts and
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walgreens. they are all trading higher on friday. one of the key points, these are the biotechs as well. making again naric drugs for low income older people on medicare. this is one of the bright spots. they can't shoot this down. just let people know, one idea when we see all of these is the pharmaceutical companies are going to publicize the cost of the pills. some people say this may shame the pharmaceutical companies into lowering their own prices because they don't want to deal with a p.r. backlash. another idea is to up end the rebate system which for the most part has been a private conversation between the pharmaceutical companies and the middlemen or benefit managers and be more transparent. those are the key ideas. one of the last ones is the
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president trump encouraging other countries to keep the prices lower. you have heard the stories where they can't afford the medicine here in the u.s. they go mail order to canada. the president is saying in other countries, you can't keep doing that and making more stronger impugntive here for those who try to. >> at least we are moving. we are moving in that direction. thank you very much. happy saturday to you. you know, it wasn't a happy week on the floor of the house of representatives. there was a lot of arguing going back and forth. this particular exchange between kelly and waters was it's own theater. why and how did it go down? who survived? congressman mike kelly is here.
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discrimination and the study should have included women because they discriminate women, also. they think that women are stupid, don't know how to negotiate a loan and women have been-- >> to impugn the automobile industry is beyond reproach. if you run out of facts, i guess the next thing you have to go to is discrimination and when we talk this way, that's divisive. that's the platform, let's divide them and separate them, the color of the skin, the shape of their eye, the gender. let's make sure to make every statement possible to show there are bad people out there doing things to other folks and it's only, it's only by discrimination that these things get done. i will tell you, immigrately offended as a member of the automobile industry, and as someone who has served thousands of people, if you think the dealers are that bad, please go to your hometown and look at the fence and see whose names are there. look at your high school program and funning all of these things, go to any charity and see who is on the list of who takes care of people. we are doing the same thing every day that you are doing,
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we're trying to make sure that we're making america great every day and every way and the best way to do that is stop talking about discrimination and start talking about the nation and coming together as a people in spite of what you say. >> mr. kelly, please do not leave. because i want you to know that i am more offended as an african-american woman than you will ever be, and this business about making america great again, it is your president that's dividing this country and don't talk to me about the fact that we don't understand what happened on the-- >> gentle woman yield? >> no, i will not yield. don't tell me that we don't understand, that's the attitude given towards women time and time again, don't you dare talk to me like that and think somehow women don't understand what goes on on the floor of automobile dealers. i don't appreciate that you did not interrupt him when he was making those outrageous remarks about him knowing more about discrimination than i know about
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discrimination. i resent that and resent the remark about making america great again, and making that from the president of the united states of america. >> does the gentle lady yield. >> no, not one second. not one second to you. neil: all right, they broke, form procedure and how had he do things on the house floor for that and the back and forth sort of went viral and one of the key players, pennsylvania republican mike kelly. we did reach out to congresswoman waters, but we have not heard back from her. congressman, in the end, it looked like you guys were not connecting or reaching each other. in the end, she was more or less saying, that this legislation, that you, more to the point, didn't get minorities, didn't get women. you say what? >> no, listen, i just say that you have to look at the study
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that the lady is talking about. it's a study that breaks it down by saying that looking at people's last name and their zip code that somehow those people are discriminated against and neil, we're talking about thousands and thousands of auto dealers and millions who work in the industry and make ago broad statement that listen, these are people discriminating against non-white buyers. that's preposterous and i will tell you this. anybody that sits in the house and it's the people's house, by the way, not the white people's house and not the non-white people's house, but the house, the american people's house, to listen to that rhetoric and not offer rebuttal to is not the way we do it in america. the study was flawed, but to impugn the integrity of all the people in the automobile industry and say to people there are 31 words, i pledge of allegiance to the united states of america, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty
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and justice for all. and we can come on the floor of the people's house and try to divide us in every way possible. the tone and color of our skin, the shape of our eye, our gender, our status in life. that's not who we are as america. america was a melting pot. neil: she's not here. i wanted to explain that she was saying this legislation if you lifted some of of the rules in place and regulations albeit those put in place by the obama administration on the way out the door, but you're a former auto salesman a successful one and that would be rigged against those who somehow end up paying higher rates or higher loan rates, and they're disporti disportionately mierpdisportione ly minorities. >> there's no facts in anything the lady was talking about, and it's not described by me as
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being flawed, it's flawed and junk. neil: they're not paying higher rates than whites? >> no, neil, people's credit and the payments, the rates that they pay are based on something called a beacon score. with all the regulations that we have in place, why would anybody look at the color of somebody's skin and say you in what? this is somebody i can take advantage of and you're impugning the i go -- integrity of autos dealers. and saying what what we do is prey on non-white people is incredibly divisive. it's not who we are as a country. if we continue down this path, this cancer that's working through our society and breaking us down as a people, it's absolutely -- you can't talk that way in-- if words matter what are we doing to the 1.4 million lives
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that were lost in defending this wonderful, wonderful nation. our country is one thing about our geographics, our nation is about another thing, that's about the people and i would just say for all of us, sit back and if you can listen to those type of words. the exchange between myself and ms. waters was not the only one i sat there and listen for 15 minutes for a line of people coming up making disparaging remarks about automobile people and also, think consistently, they discriminate against non-whites, they discriminate against non-whites, this is the most divisive type of talk. neil: you're right, it did accelerate. i wouldn't bring in 1.4 million people that gave up their lives for this countries. >> i sure did, because they did, neil. neil: i take nothing away from car salesmen, may be wonderful people, but i think you can get hyperventilating on that. but i do want to step back, because she seized on something you said in the middle of this argume argument. >> yes. neil: and you want you to explain this, congressman. >> not one of your people have ever been on the floor and
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tried, not this floor, i'm talking about the automobile floor, you know an awful lot about laptops, but know nothing about blacktop. you get on that floor, you get on the lop lat and work with people to make sure they can have affordable transportation. neil: i know what you meant and i think people knew what you said, but when you said one of you people, it was seized on as a racist comment. you say what? >> this is what i say, we're in a country right now where we prey on any type of statement to try to make it more divisive. she knows exactly what i was talking about. i was talking about the number of people on the other side of the house that day that came up in line to constantly criticize the automobile people. not one of those people, by the way, have any background in our business. i do. i-- this is an industry that i have worked in so long, and love so well. and i understand what that meant, what that industry has been able to do to lift the lives of every single american, who who we are as a people. to have to sit there and listen to that, know at the end of the
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day all this is about is about dividing the american people, not bringing us together. we have r we are the united states of america not the divided states of america, do i get passionate about it? yes, i do, because i think at some point, if you don't rise up, and say you cannot continue to lose this type-- use this type of language, words do matter and when you utter those words and nobody pushes back, then it must be true. i will never sit back and listen to that rhetoric and in the say-- i serve with people that are incredib incredibly devoted and patriotic to making this country great again. if when you get up, to bring down the president of the united states and somehow diminish the fact that in every measurable way our country is doing so much better now. we have a dynamic and robust economy. more black americans working
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today than ever, more hispanic-americans working than ever, and more women working than ever, wages rising by 3 1/4%. 6.6 million jobs available today, neil. that's what the discussion should be. it should not be about a flawed regulation from the cfpb trying to discriminate and trying to divide us as a people and using a flawed piece of information that can say i can tell you're discriminating because you're looking at the last name and zip code and there are three kellies serves in the house right now. three kelly's and robin kelly is a good friend of mine. and you know what we saw, hi, cousin, and give each other a kiss and i can't believe you're saying these type of things. robin kelly is african-american. neil: so when you-- >> i never in my life-- >> and i wish we had more time. i want to be clear because this follows on hillary clinton's remarks as she lost the election because a lot of people are
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chauvinist didn't want to woman in power and going back to trump supporters, maybe your supporters and saying they're in the a friend of women and minorities, that they support deals that favor white people. this is your chance to answer that charge. i don't know if you had a chance with ms. waters to talk to her after this back and forth, but what do you want to say? >> i just want to say to the american people, this is what's happening in our country today and people ask me why are we so divided. it's the rhetoric dividing us right now. the untruthful facts and words matter fwe continue down this path we will never be able to fulfill the promise that this country has had forever, for all the people that come here. we are the only country in the world, by the way, that people keep coming to, they come here because of the chance to take care of their children, to take care of their families, we can't be this way. we cannot be this divided and we cannot use that type of language and think somehow it's helpful. neil, it is destructive, it is
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divisive and would ask all of us, all of us to please take a look at that pledge and understand what it means and when it does come to memorial day, that's not day that we celebrate, that's a day that we remember all who gave their lives. neil: have you talked to congresswoman waters since that? >> now what? the funny thing about this, ms. waters and i were at the korean embassy a couple of weeks ago, sat at the same dinner table and talked about issues affecting our relationship with north and south korea and rode in the car together and had a pleasant conversation. as a person who works in the automobile industry, you cannot sit and listen to that kind of talk and not say that's flawed, that's false and it's not true. if you do not rebuttal, who are you? congressman kelly. >> when you don't talk back when falsehoods and lies are told about it you, who are you. tomorrow is mother's day and this is for all mothers to
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enjoy. please, i would just ask people, everywhere, please stop the divisive words. don't worry about the color of your skin, the shape of your eye, where you worship or don't worship. your gender, your status in life. it's america, neil, it's america. neil: thank you very much. i hope your family has a good morse day and i hope maxine waters does as well. >> me, too. neil: and congresswoman, we've reached out three times and welcome to come on anytime. fair and balanced, always want it hear from all sides. in the meantime, news that the north koreans who have made an effort right now to dismantle a nuclear test ground site, they're going to hold a ceremony at the same site to prove that they are, they've invited jur journalists to see the proof in the pudding. the latest side that north korea wants to be a pal. can we trust them to be a pal? after this. it took a whole lot more.
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>> north korea dictator kim jong-un making nice ahead of the meeting with the president in singapore, one month from today. the charm offensive including the latest promise to invite journalists to see the dismantling of one nuclear site really to be trusted? presidential historian, doug wheat, and we could argue, will our approach, offering economic incentives for the north koreans do just that be trusted? we have a little bit more proof of that because we've done it with the likes of the japanese and the germans, so, we have a history of keeping our word, but what is your sense of this? >> yeah, neither one can be trusted too much as is at stake in his mind. his survival is at stake and in our minds, our survival is at stake. you don you don't take chances when
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nuclear weapons are involved, verify. neil: we have the hostages out, an overture ahead of the meetings and denuclearization commitment, i know it's a strong term and it's in the eye beholder, i grant that. there's a lot of leariness of the american position and i don't know why that should be in doubt or why the fact that mike pompeo said look, we have a history of this. we did it from enemies who become friends and we believe you a formeren am i could be a friend, much as the enemy, japan became a friend rebuilding after world war ii and the germans became a friend. so there is a path on that, that's consistent. how do you think that's going to resonate? >> yes, but there's some differences. we didn't -- nazi germany was left in ruins before we helped them out. neil: sure. so there are some differences and he's got gadhafi in the back
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of his mind, rightly so, if you were advising him. this is-- there are some subtle differences. neil: or gadhafi was overthrown, he doesn't want to get overthrown or killed. and when you link it to other presidents which had important pow wows, reagan with gorbachev. this is a one-day event. >> well, it's important to keep in mind that what trump himself does is critical. everybody talks about the preparation, that's true, but look at yalta, fdr went into yalta, america was stronger than she'd ever been in our lives. we were on the verge of getting nuclear weapons, and the battle of the bulge. we were stronger than ever, he gave away eastern europe. he'd been dead within two months, weak in his health.
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he brought back his daughter anna to run the white house and run the yalta conference and keep elinore out of the way, and while he renewed a relationship with his mistress. nobody knew at the time. america wag strong and he was weak. trump has to be strong like reagan did. neil: we'll watch closely, doug, very good having you my friend. >> thank you, neil. neil: president trump is saying he's sending the right message and for the world, the safe message by ripping up this iranian agreement just like he says getting tough on china with trade, and better for the world and just like he's handling stuff with north korea, tough trade talks notwithstanding, that it will be good in the long wrong. if it lifts prices for oil and
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collapse of the socialist system in venezuela, but really, it's a strong global economy that really has been led by a resurgence in the united states. and we're seeing it in every facet of the petroleum industry, whether it be investment in texas, whether it be record gasoline demand in the united states. in the sales of larger vehicles. neil: all right, so, iran could soon, i think, it has 2 1/2 million barrels of oil a day, it's out of the world market. what if that was all taken off, then what? >> i think right now, the world would have a very difficult time replacing that oil. and we would see a price spike. so we don't think-- >> you don't think other members of the cartel would make up for that? >> you know, from what i've heard, neil, some of them are paying lip service to the fact that they would try to replace that oil, but in reality, they're rooting for higher prices so they may not raise production as quickly as we want. it may take pressure from the
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trump administration to get their friends in saudi arabia to raise production. neil: and oil prices this time are rising for a good reason, not a bad reason like the '70s, but a good reason, economy and pick up and demand across the globe, i understand that. but in this country at what point does it wipe out the benefits the americans are getting from tax cuts? >> i think if you're on the lower end of the spectrum. most of that will be gone by memorial day. and mostly we'll see $3 a gallon. most of the middle class is doing better with their job and feeling more confident, they're not going to notice it as much because the benefits of having a strong economy, better job options and the ability to get raises right now. there are a lot of jobs out there, neil, right now, that are paying higher wages, if you have the skills, and so, i think right now, for the first time in a long time, a lot of the
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american workers have some choices that they didn't really have over the last ten years. neil: we will watch it very carefully, my friend. thank you very much. phil flynn. and he's right every tick of the way, so, scary. well, scary smart, i mean, in a good way. and also scary smart, analyst on this, a former congresswoman, and jonas max ferris, and kathy-- why don't i throw this out there. the president more or less indicated whatever with iran, however i get china to change its ways in the interim prices will go up for a lot of things you like. i don't think that americans quite appreciate the gravity of that, they will soon and then what? then you've got to explain to them more that this is a good thing that's happening longer term. that could be a tough sell. >> neil, i think that phil made a lot of great points. americans are going back to work. wages are rising, the economic
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picture is improving for everyone and that does raise all boats. also, the united states is now, as i understand it, the world's number one producer of oil. so, our economy industry has also been energized, so to speak, by the president. so, he does have to finesse this message and the policies because most of what we talked about on this show, tariffs are a blunt instrument. there's a lot more to be done in terms of international cooperation with our trading partners across the world and in terms of penalizing-- >> they're not hopping along with us on this. and that's where things you get a the a local store, you could start seeing a rise in price. farmers are seeing with soy beans, since the chinese stopped buying them. so a little anecdotal information that it could hit and hit hard. >> look, a strong economy and good job market can build-- people, yeah, prices are higher. if we go to $100 an oil, 4.50 gas and then out of china,
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things are more expensive. and they're not going to say i got that in the tax cut, people will get mad. prices went up obviously when bush went into iraq, but people went, oh, yeah, we'll have to deal with this problem. it's one thing to start a tariff war with people, there's a reason why politicians let china get away with so much, no one wants the prices to go up especially before an election and let china get away with the stuff. that doesn't mean the public needs to go to for it. they've got to be sold this. there's an angle that this is one of the dangers of lowering taxes into an already very strong economy for other reasons that were going on. you get excess demand and something pops, like oil prices because we already were at-- >> i think your point about not minimizing the impact is a good one. i mean, i saw it, kathy, when wilbur ross, the commerce secretary was using the campbell
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soup can to illustrate it's pennies on the cost of the can of soup. first of all, i don't know if he's ever run into a store to pick up a can of soup, he's a billionaire, but the benefit of the doubt. but even as minimizing the impact, for a lot of folks it's going to have a measurable impact, which is fine. i'm saying then you've got to prepare people ahead of time for that measurable impact. >> so we're supposed to trust a president who changes his mind, who's uncertainty. we're never quite sure what he's going to do next. neil: do know that tariffs are-- >> well, things are uncertain. oil prices go up when things are unstable and uncertain and that's happened in the past. neil: or when things are going well. >> well, we could say that things are unstable, so, he's supposed to convince us that things will be stable? we're supposed to trust someone? i mean, kim jong-un is supposed to trust that this president is going to keep his word, so we have-- >> so you trust kim jong-un more than the president.
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>> it's scary, at this moment, i'm not quite sure-- >> whoa, whoa, whoa. that's a fox alert that you buried there. that you trust the north krohn leader more than donald trump. i know you're liberal not-- >> how does this trust leader trust this leader? we have two leaders who are unstable and-- >> it's out of control. >> it's not out of control. neil: to infinity. >> he's unpredictable, how do we trust him? >> the president is keeping promises. >> like the wall. neil: and if you keep that promise and then the price of a lot of goods go up. you've got to be careful. >> an interesting segment last night on bret bair's show. and they understand there's a longer term goal and this is what they said, they are now pursuing opportunities in other trading partners for australia
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>> all right. well, you know, there's been a lot of back and forth, particularly among democrats and those opposed to what the president was doing to sort of tear up that barack obama-inspired deal with iran and start from scratch and including from senate minority leader chuck schumer. even though he criticized the deal that barack obama crafted with five other countries back in 2015. and then changed his stance. look at this. >> we should not go forward with this agreement. this evil regime has stayed in power without even a slight threat to their being overthrown. the odds to me are too high, too
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high, that they will stay that way and if they do stay that way, i believe that this agreement is too flawed and too dangerous for us. >> what the president is doing today is the best thing based on 2015? >> no, there are no reports that iran has violated the agreement. neil: all right. so that was then, this is now. now, is it consistent? democratic congressman and foreign affairs committee chairman opposed that and never got to a resolution or formal passage yay or nay. congressman, thank you for joining us, good to have you. >> neil, good to be with you. i opposed in 2015. but as a matter of ideology you keep the same and what we've done is independent of we've done in 2015.
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neil: why is it independent? >> because we're in a different position. if you make a wrong turn and go in the wrong direction for three years, you don't then make a u-turn and go back to your point of origin. neil: didn't you say it was a wrong turn three years ago? >> three years ago it was a mistake because we could have gotten a better deal. now we're in a different position and we'll get a better deal if we do it right the next several years. if instead we blow up our agreements with europe then-- >> it wasn't a treaty, right? >> what the president has done is legal. it's bad states craft. we should be sanctions iran, but telling europe we're doing it not to blow up the jcpoa or the nuclear deal, but because of what iran is doing in syria and yemen. we could have just as tough sanctions and tougher sanctions and have european support if we said we're doing it consistent with the nuclear deal. neil: if you use that rationale,
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congressman, you could have said that england should have stuck with the neville chamberlain deal with hitler. and no, no, no, this guy is doing something he said he wouldn't do. the iranians might not be the germans, i'm not saying that. what i'm saying is why is the notion that a deal is a deal is a deal when you can make a better one. >> i don't think that the deal is a deal is a deal, i'm not saying that-- referring to me as neville chamberlain. neil: no, i'm not calling you neville chamber lane. but to say it's sanction at this time and never walking away from it-- >> i didn't say that, just as chamberlain, and he was gone and
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czechoslovakia, sent troops to france. and you look at when churchill takes office and not chamberlain. neil: whatever you think about this and whether compared to treaties or whatever, remember, this is not a treaty, this was never ratified by congress and a lot of republicans like to point that out. a lot of democrats, too, i understand, but is it your sense now that if the european countries that signed this, you know, england and germany and france and china and russia, that they're going to continue dealing with the iranians and that we'll be left alone? is that your fear? >> that is a-- certainly a fear. the other fear the markets are not taking noi is that there will be a collision between europe and the united states on the issue of us refusing to do business with major european banks. the markets obviously don't think that's going to happen, although right now, we're on a collision course. but i think that harsh sanctions on iran will bring them to the
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table and get a better deal. if those sanctions are justified by pointing to 400,000 dead syrians, we'll have european support and the sanctions will be effective. if instead we declare that those same sanctions are because we hate barack obama or his iran deal, then europe will do what they're doing right now, which is scheming to try to figure out how to business with iran and keep iran solvent without running into u.s. sanctions. we need european support for tough sanctions. you do that with tough sanctions, with pressure on europe, and with persuasion, and that is the persuasion element that's missing here. trump had a perfect reason to argue for sanctions and he chose the one europeans would not support. neil: you never know, they can change their minds on a dime. we'll watch it closely. congressman, a pleasure having you, thank you for coming on on saturday. >> good to be with you. neil: the president is ready to tell robert mueller okay, you've
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mayhem is everywhere. are you in good hands? >> this administration has provided over a million documents, we've fully cooperated in it and in the interest of the country, i think it's time to wrap it up. and i would very respectfully encourage the special counsel and his team to bring their work to completion. neil: all right. that was on thursday. the update is that robert mueller has not wrapped it up. so, where is this all going? the administration would like it going and gone sooner rather than later, but there are some things in the way first. and with us right now, lisa, so much to get into, but on the push, when someone says on either one side or the other side of a legal challenge, you've got to speed this up. the normal reaction would be, no, right? >> well, i guess we're seeing a lot of people say the same thing. and what in particularly is a strong push when you hear pence
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say it is because this is a man that really has preserved the integrity of this process the whole way through. s' preserved the integrity of the republican party. this is a man that doesn't necessarily get involved and say much, but when he speaks-- >> the vice-president you're talking about. >> the vice-president, people will listen and he also is trying, i think, to garner the troops, the republicans going into mid term elections and tell them, look, i am behind the president, i have analyzed this process. i don't think it has enough legs it proceed. >> it's been lengthy enough, let's conclude it. it's two-fold. neil: is there anything evidence you have, you read the tea leaves, the and the michael cohen things notwithstanding. is there a sense we're come to go a finale here? >> the investigation seems to -- investigations are dangerous, right? the deeper you look, the more you find and they keep
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uncovering different tangential elements that lead to this russian collusion. neil: ie, they go way off course. >> they're not necessarily leading any of them to the president. why don't they conclude this investigation with the president? we've seen the fbi investigate other people before in the last election, they did conclude various fbi investigations. neil: and i had michael caputo here last week and a lot of questions asked, the former trump operative had a lot to do with other business dealings and stuff, but not anybody involving the president and not any name involving the name trump so it sounds like a lot of stuff outside the president's periphery, i glean from that, whatever comes of this, will be trump's sub board-- subordinates. >> that the president is not a target for now.
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>> if he's a target or you have to say as far as, you have to say, our investigation with regard to the president has concluded. neil: they still want to talk to trump with a subpoena, right? >> because they're not ready to close the investigation. if they were to come out and say there's no reason for us to have a discussion with the president-- >> would you advise the president to talk to him? >> as a lawyer, really, i advise anybody to talk to authorities because it's kind of a witch hunt without people being in the room. you have to be very well prepped and in this regard there are just too many elements, too many questions and every week we see another envelope come out. neil: and if it went up to the supreme court, would the supreme court say no matter how busy you are, mr. president, you have to talk to this guy? >> i believe the supreme court court would say he's not beyond subpoena power and he needs to talk for a criminal investigation. that's historically. neil: lisa, thank you, very very much on a read on how things are
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>> i think the remarks are awful, but let's look at this in context. that was said in a private meeting inside the white house. it's not like-- you might say something nasty about me off the air and doesn't have that much impact. you come on air and say it officially. that's a problem. this is a private meeting inside the white house, it was a joke, a badly considered joke, an awful joke. neil: some are calling for her firing. do you think that's right? >> i don't. i honestly don't. neil: all right.
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that was a weigh in on the communication director, at a private meeting had been talking about john mccain's opposed to the president's post for the cia, he's dying anyway and there are a lot of people calling for kelly sadler's head. so far the administration is not doing that. sticking with her. and mick mulvaney saying that they should. back here is kathy and jonas max ferris and deirdre bolton. and we all say horrible things about people behind their backs, like what i say about you. kidding, kidding! . i think it's a bit of a difference. >> everybody does misspeak. one thing is aide actually did call meghan mccain and apologized director. neil: meghan must not have accepted it because she
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bad-mouthed her on "the view." >> and for cia director, said, i have the utmost respect for senator mccain and his thoughtfulness how he's viewing this process. and that's high road of her. neil: bygones, be bygones. >> it was a private conversation and she apologized to the people. neil: what do you think? >> i think she needs to be fired. just because she apologized, doesn't make it less despicable. and i think it's harder. and people forget he's not just a politician, he's a person with a family and children and grandchildren. i don't think this somebody should be able to get away from th this. >> i don't know about losing jobs for jokes. >> who is that a joke?
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>> what about michelle wolf? >> and a lot of people got mad at her saying about eye shadow. neil: there's a slippery slope advocating for someone for misspoken words or words that get out and comments that get out. >> i understand and i've said a lot of things that i maybe regret saying in the past, but never said neg like that. neil: so you draw the line at-- a line like that. >> and i don't know a lot of people who have said stuff like that, i don't surround myself with people like that. >> gallows humor people. >> how is it a joke? >> it's a gallows humor joke that's bad, sure, and in private, maybe it's not even funny in private, but at the end of the day losing your job because your bad gallows humor joke gets out. it's like a comedian. and the reality show, look at the video we had before of the two people fighting on the floor. it's going to-- in five or ten years and look back at these at quaint times like 30 years ago. neil: kathy, what do you think of that? >> look, the reality show
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because we have reality show star as the president of the united states. no, we're not going to elect another reality show store. neil: the distinction between this comments from the comedian at the white house dinner. >> what if you were a trump cabinet official saying, you know, or an obama cabinet official saying demeaning things about donald trump and people around it, would you hold them to the same standard? >> yes, it's our house and they should be careful and be politely resigned. neil: you would say this if this was an obama cabinet member? >> yes. neil: you want you to look straight at me. >> yes, absolutely. neil: you looked down, you literally just looked down. >> no, i'm-- these should be taken seriously and the words out of your mouth should be careful and calculated. neil: i don't like when they say take television hosts off the
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air for comments they made, any network. i think it gets, it's a slippery slope and different people judge it differently and appreciate what kat is saying and john mccain and what it's about. if we assign different demarcation. >> good taste, clearly not. there's a difference between the way you behalf at work, except what you say about me. neil: you don't want to know. >> so she clearly was wrong, but, you know, like, okay, she knew she was wrong-- >> is that a view reflected from the top. the president and senator never got along and maybe it's an accepted view. >> and the president fires people all the time so it's not like it would be outlandish to get fired over something like this. >> it wouldn't be first one. >> and again, this wasn't a joke, this was a mean-spirited thing to say. neil: jonas, you're saying be careful what you wish for. >> the trouble is the media is taking on the job of the internet for shame people and decide who should and shouldn't be fired for what bad jokes they
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tell. neil: my producers telling me i have to cover up all the e-mails i write about you. we'll never know. >> oh, wow. neil: be careful to what you wish for because it can come back at you folks. that will do it here, we'll see you on monday. bye-bye. attention to detail, and customer service are critical to business success. like the ones we teach here, every day.
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