i want to congratulate you and everyone else. i'll read a few names. these people worked hard. this is all about the dodd-frank disaster and they fixed it or at least have gone a long way toward fixing it. mike crepeau, thank you very much. thank you, steve daines. john kennedy, thank you very much, john. heidi heitkamp, thank you very much. appreciate it. david perdue. where is david? i love david. [laughter] what a great guy he is. jim risch. thank you, what a great lawyer. i learned all about you. one of the great lawyers. i think i have to use him. [laughter] i think i have to use him. tim scott. tim, thank you. great job. a great achievement. and pat toomey who does know the financial world. i can tell you from experience.

and the great representatives. fantastic job. thank you, jim. so you wanted to get near the table instead of getting over here. that's like the prime location until about ten minutes ago, right? i think mia has the prime location. >> it's all about real estate. >> i know. it's all about location, isn't it? jim banks. andy barr, kevin cramer, sean duffy, tom emmer, franch hill, david custoff. patrick mchenry. where is patrick? the greatest name in politics. i don't know why. every time i say patrick mchenry, who is by the way does a great job, more important than the name, i think you have the greatest name in politics. if i had that name i would have been president ten years sooner. i'm telling you. a great name.

thanks. mia love. thank you, mia. blaine lutkenmeyer. keith roth. thank you, keith. very much. claudia tenney and ann wagner. these are people that have worked so hard. we've been talking about this so long. so i want to thank all of them. i also want to thank vice president pence who has been working with me on our previous discussion long and hard. secretary steve mnuchin, secretary ross, secretary carson and administrator linda mcmahon. >> you've been listening to president trump speaking in the white house. this is just hours after he formally announced via statement from the white house that he was pulling out of the upcoming june north korean summit with kim jong-un. the president just saying now,

this is a tremendous setback for north korea and the world. meanwhile, he firmly stated the sanctions and the pressure campaign will continue when it comes to north korea. we have to get it right, says the president. our military is ready to respond to foolish our reckless acts by north korea. this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith. we have harris faulkner with us, katie pavlich, former ohio state senator, capri cafaro. joining us on the couch, press secretary under george w. bush and a fox news contributor, ari fleischer. he's out numbered. this is a big moment to hear from the president. a signing ceremony for roll back of dodd frank. we were anticipating he would comment on north korea and he did. >> i've been a cynic about this since the president was going to first meet with kim jong-un.

i've lived through their lies before. they say they're going to dismantle. we enter into agreements and they never honor their word. they didn't do it with bill clinton, george bush or barack obama. so why should we think they're different? i look at this the ongoing negotiations. it's not the end. it's about maneuvering and leverage. that's why donald trump did this. >> you wonder how many times the president can pull out of a planned summit. he agreed. he went back and forth. he said there's substantial evidence that we might not do it. he sounded optimistic. mike pompeo yesterday at the house hearing sounded optimistic that it would happen. and then here we are today. >> that's why i salute him for not following the normal playbook. here's what north korea yesterday said yesterday. they had a senior aide to kim jong-un put out a statement, all the press followed it. they called mike pence a dummy.

no, the news in the statement is whether the u.s. will meet us in a meeting room or encounter us in a nuclear show down goes by the behavior of the u.s. >> and the president said positive things will take place with the respect to the future of north korea. but if they don't, we're more ready than we have ever been before. >> the president said to kim jong-un directly, if you change your mind about this important summit, don't hesitate to call or write to me. he left the door open but he said he won't play these games. mike pompeo is on the hill. he said we've been reaching out to north korean officials for logistical purposes. we heard anything from them. as ari just said, the most important thing here is again, north korea, not the united states, north korea asked for this summit and yesterday they threatened us again with nuclear war. it's not something that any president of the united states can accept. >> capri?

>> i agree. president trump has said all along that he basically has the right to pull out at any time. there's no way that you can stand for north korea saying that they are willing to engage in nuclear war. so we have to continue to try. i think that there's one way for president trump to play this at this point. that is to walk away. you can't let north korea do that. president trump and the united states of america need to remain in control of this or else it's going to spiral out of control. >> can i ask you a follow up? welcome to the couch, by the way, capri. >> thank you. >> and i know you don't speak for all democrats. but you were a senator in ohio and led the delegation there. we're starting to see polling where dems were warming to what this president was doing on north korea. do you stay there? could this be a little bit of a bridge as ari pointed out? the conversation is not over yet with north korea. >> we were talking about this

earlier before the show started. ari and i apparently -- nancy pelosi has come out with a statement that was -- >> yeah. i have it on my phone. >> if you bring it up. i don't. but essentially the tenor and tone was i think childish. >> she said that kim jong-un must be having a giggle fest. >> giggle fest and a valentine. this letter was a valentine. that's not the way that you engage in a diplomatic discussion. that's not the way you're willing to given and come to the table for a national security issue, democrats and republicans. this is why we continue to losing a democrats. we're not engaging in a constructive manner. >> and i know she was recently asked about her age. but i want to point out that's what she points to in her statement. she says i have almost 25 years in intelligence longer than anyone that has been in the history of congress. never has there ever been something so disrespectful of congress of what they are doing today. of course, she's talking about

the doj meeting that is coming up. the whole tone and tenor of this statement that comes out after north korea is indicative of what you're saying. >> she described the president's letter as a valentine. >> i'd say the president has been more respectful towards congress. he's said with the north korean deal and with the iranian nuclear agreement falling apart and wanting to put something back together, he wants it as a treaty to get congress involved. he doesn't want it to be a deal that they decide to do without their input. so he's engaged with them. the other thing that we're missing here, i want to take it back to the president, yes, the summit has been cancelled but let's not forget the things that led up to this point. we got three americans back. the president thanked kim jong-un in his letter. he's acknowledged there's progress. but again, reminding kim jong-un that we have given you all of these things, we're willing to come to the table. it's worth more to you to make this work out. you have a lot more to lose than we do. you're letting north korea down,

letting the world down. the other part is china. >> i'm glad you brought that up. >> the president said look, all of these secret meetings going on behind our back, we have to talk about it. >> the president said earlier in the week "i don't like it that kim jong-un's behavior changes apparently when he meets or has met one or two times with the president xi of china. i don't like it. i want to ask you, ari, you pointed out, this is part of the deal making. our president before he was president has walked away from tables before. doesn't mean they won't reconvene. what message does this send to kim jong-un? >> that trump is in charge, which is the message that he always wants to said. trump said it was important to be unpredictable. other leaders know what to do. we don't do things that people

don't previous le do. trump has changed the rules for how we engage with north korea. i don't think there's any giggling going on. kim jong-un said how do i get the upper hand over trump and he can't get it. >> you got crumbs, giggles from pelosi. >> as far as the message this sends north korea, the message it sends to china. this sends a really strong message to china that we're not going to do a deal just to do a deal. >> all right. sends a message to china and around the world, don't threaten us. if you threaten us, we'll react strongly and trump is in it for the deal, the end result, not the feel-good publicity. >> he said the president during his remarks at the white house, nobody should be anxious. we have to get it right. he's not willing to take anything thrown on the table. he's not willing to accept certain types of behavior. they threatened us with nuclear war. so for someone like nancy pelosi

to say that there's giggling involved when we were talking about potentially millions of people, including people in south korea who don't have -- >> and our own people. what about the americans. >> it doesn't have to be nuclear war. >> so true. >> nancy pelosi is acting like this is a joke. >> and can i bring it back to china? look at it from a different angle. a lot of people are saying that trump is playing ball on trade with china to make nice because china is so important to the nuclear deal. now that we pulled back, will it make any changes on his strategy with trade and china. >> we want to go to that sound of nancy pelosi. here's what she had to say following this announcement. >> we got the president's letter, the copy of the president's letter chumming up -- like a valentine. he's the big winner. when he got the letter from the

president saying, okay, never mind, he must be having a giggle fit there in north korea. >> there it is. in stark contrast to the republican reaction. marco rubio issued a statement. congratulations to kim jong-un, you just played yourself. >> in stark contrast to schumer that had a different tenor to what nancy pelosi just said. this is why i used to be a democrat and i left the democrat party when ronald reagan was president. this is a blame america first statement by nancy pelosi. when she's got a choice between playing donald trump and kim jong-un, she picks donald trump to blame for no reason other than she's a democrat and she wants to score points where america should be unified against kim jong-un. >> so interesting and so important not to miss. she doesn't pick the dictator. she picks the president of the us. >> she's so anti-trump.

there is a tenor to this. if trump cancels, the press will blame trump. if kim jong-un trumps, the press will blame trump. that's where we are. >> and kim jong-un requested this meeting, agreed to the meeting and now we've been threatened with nuclear war, he's pulling out and now he's getting criticized by people like nancy pelosi. it's ridiculous to think that we can't even agree these days on the fact that we have to take care of north korea because they want to kill innocent americans. the president of the united states regard if he's republican or democrat has to take action to protect the people. >> can i point out how fast this president got back to business? this is -- >> i don't think he stepped away. >> he's repealing the dodd frank there, the regulations on the bank. it's interesting not so much the

topic but the president at a live event at the white house made some comments and moved on, which speaks to the issue that he may come back and make a deal -- >> welcome to the life of the president. that i have to juggle every day. you made the biggest point. can we achieve peace. we're in the middle innings. it's not over. we still have a lot of talking to do. there may be talks. there may or may not be a summit and there may be success without a summit. we don't know, this is about the maneuvering -- >> but this leaves the door wide open. the president is signing the roll back of this dodd frank regulation, part of it. as he signed that letter pulling out of this summit with north korea, he was very clear in the final words of that. if you'd like to talk, call me. write me. he's saying this negotiation

continues. the idea of a summit -- >> how is that any more of a valentine? i don't mean to step in on you. my brain just broke. do you remember on this program when we talked about the fact that president obama had been having these meetings and telephone calls and letters with iran early in his presidency. >> that's why democrats get themselves in trouble. they are selective and they're not consistent. that's why we continue to lose credibility. >> how is that not a valentine? >> that's what i'm saying. democrats were okay with that. >> and a deal came out of that, too. some kind of way. >> we have to be consistent with what we stand for. >> back to the language of the letter. it's clear the president has left the door open. if you look at the other things he said, this is a missed opportunity and a truly sad moment in history. he said your opportunity to put more on the table has passed. there's less on the table now because you have decided to issue the threats. >> the roll back of dodd frank

was just signed. normally the markets would be applauding that but they're down out of the pulling out of this suck mitt. >> why do you think? >> uncertainty. we're monitoring reaction. we're going back to the president. he made make more comments. >> the hostages came home. we didn't have to pay. we wouldn't have paid. they came back home. they're now safely ensconced in their houses. they're very happy and thrilled and they never thought it would happen. so the dialogue was good until recently. i think i understand why that happened. >> why was that? >> i won't say that. some day i'll give it to you, you can write about it in a book. i believe we have a great opportunity. we'll see whether or not that opportunity is seized by north korea. if it is, great for them and great for the world. if it isn't, it will be just fine. thank you very much. >> do you expect him to call

you? >> do you expect him to call you? no response from the president there. something that we heard often from this president. the negotiations continue. in response to where this goes next, the president says we'll see. >> he said some day i'll write -- >> he said they guy could. >> he said why did this happen? i'm not going to tell you. it has something to do with china. why else would he not answer that question? he thinks there's something between china and north korea that upset the apple cart. >> we're monitoring reaction from washington around the world on this after president trump called off the big summit meeting in june. kim jong-un and life report from south korea on the reaction ahead. top justice department officials rights now briefing lawmakers on the confidential role of an fbi informant who interacted with

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>> just moments ago, the president was commenting after he pulled out of this planned summit with north korea. it was supposed to happen in

june. he said that won't be happening. a question about the break down of this summit and if it raises if risk of war. he said we will see what happens. i hope they continue on. we're in a strong position, says the president. i think they want to do what is right. it was recently this has taken place. they want to do what right. kim jong-un wants to do what is right. hopefully it will work out. the president calls it a set back for north korea and the world. the maximum campaign pressure will continue. all of this as the world responding to the summit cancellation. we'll hear more from the president and the white house as the negotiations continue. the president says the military is ready if necessary. >> interesting to get the president's first response since we learned about the summit being cancelled. right now top justice department and fbi officials are briefing lawmakers on classified

information regarding the role of a federal informant who interacted with members of the trump presidential campaign. this is the first meeting of two meetings that are planned to happen today. house speaker paul ryan and gop chairman devin nunes and trey gowdy are inside that meeting. the ranking democratic on the house intel committee, adam schiff is there. democrats claimed they weren't invited to the party. adam schiff is in fact there. the same justice officials will brief the bipartisan officials known as the gang of eight. chairman gaudy will set in. john kelly will also be at both meetings. schiff weighed in a short time ago. watch. >> there should be one meeting, the gang of eight. shouldn't be a premeeting with two gop members acted as donald

trump's legal defense team in congress. i was assured that kelly would be there to convene the meeting and then leave the room. there should be no one present from the white house. we shouldn't even have the white house convening the meeting. shows how improperly motivated the whole meeting is. >> capri, as your democrat party and risk of sounding sour grapes at this point? >> i think when folks like adam schiff put it in a way that for example trey gowdy is part of trump's legal defense team, when the you get cutesy like that, you lose credibility. there's legitimate issues here. it would be better if theres one bipartisan meeting. same thing as far as the white house being involved. because -- you know, you lose

the ability to make that art when you get too cute like adam schiff did. we have to be careful on how we approach these things. >> ari, isn't the bottom line somebody may have infiltrated in some way without saying who they were in a presidential campaign in the united states of america? >> there's a bottomer line. >> i like that. bottomer line. >> russia interfered with our elections. john podesta's e-mails were hacked. that should be investigated. an attack on one party is an attack on all parties. i'm all for the investigation to get to the bottom of what russia did. to do that, sometimes you use informants. the issue here is when you put informants into the other administration and you're the obama administration saying we're going to put fbi

informants in the trump campaign, why and when did you do it. we have not heard. that's why it's so important for us to get these documents and for both parties to see them to know. the decision made in the trump years -- i mean, in the obama years take this step as putting themselves at risk. it is fraught with risk when you put opponents in a political campaign. we don't want to set precedence. >> and you're criminalizing politics. >> so it gets really cloudy at that point. you may have done it for the purpose of finding out if another country was working -- >> that's correct. >> we're in the land where everything is seen those the rosy glasses called politics. >> i don't buy that we still need to see more information about why the informant was working to gather information from the trump campaign and giving tout the fbi and the justice department. james clapper said it was on behalf of the trump campaign to make sure that russians weren't

infiltrating. we need. the obama administration knew for years prior to the 2016 presidential election that the russians had planned to interfere. we had seen their work. this isn't something that had to happen after trump won the primary and going against hillary clinton. there's questions there. in the last 24 hours, things have changed completely. yesterday nobody was from the white house wasn't going. democrats weren't going. now it's a well-rounded meeting. >> the second meeting. >> yes. the question about why the white house is there? well, the president. it was his campaign. they want to know what's going on. they're trying to fix the system. >> however, the one counter point i'd say to that -- this applies to the issue of the obama administration. the issue here is what happens if when and how politics injects itself into the criminal justice system into the investigative system? the assumption is that because it was the obama administration,

obama endorsed hillary, therefore there must be some sort of nefarious reason. and the democrats say john kelly wants to be here because he wants to run back and tell trump. it's classified. we're all speculating. we have no idea what is in there -- >> what we do know, democrats weren't invited. that made it clear that they would like to be there. although sarah sanders, remember when she asked about it, they said they didn't have any questions about this. they weren't -- they didn't request information. so they got their way. trey gowdy making it clear when talking to dana perino, he said great. i don't care who is there. if democrats are going to show up, i'm not in charge of the guest list. if they're going to be there, they better show up with an open mind and tight lips. will that happen? >> the most important thing, not who is in the room but what information is brought in the

room. they're's my theory. when the obama administration realized that the trump campaign made have had contacts with russia, they had two choices. one, do we warn donald trump that you may be infiltrated by russians and you have a problem. they chose not to do that for some odd reason. maybe they thought there's nobody safe to tell. then they got spun up into a theory that why else wouldn't they tell them? they thought paul manafort can't be trusted, carter page can't be trusted. we shouldn't warn them. >> how about the candidate? >> if you don't warn them, you create an environment for informants. when they took that step, it spiralled out of control. they we we need to why why it began, what role did barack obama have, did he know that the fbi had informants there. i guarantee the answer is yes. no fbi would put informants in another presidential campaign

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>> based on the recent statement of north korea, i have decided to terminate the planned summit in singapore on june 12. while many things can happen and a great opportunity lies ahead potentially, i believe that this

is a tremendous setback for north korea and indeed a set back for the world. >> fox news alert. reaction pouring in now from around the globe after president trump called off the june 12th summit meeting with north korean dictator kim jong-un. greg palkot is live in seoul. that president met with ours and now this, greg. >> absolutely, harris. this is an absolute shocker to the region. south korea had a whole lot riding on this. it's late here in seoul. but we know that the staff of president moon and moon himself were meeting in emergency session. we got a statement from his spokesman. he said we're trying to figure out what president trump's intention is, what the meaning of this is. we know president trump and president moon spoke by phone. president trump spoke of a military readiness in the region for whatever reason. that's got to be the last thing

that south korean president moon had hoped for. he started this whole process months ago. it culminated in the summit on the dmz. the white house break off seems to be because of calling vice president mens a political dummy for his reference as a libya model and he's taken that to mean regime change. also getting the white house ire, the threat in that statement by pyongyang that if they can't meet in a meeting room, they would go into a nuclear to nuclear show down. that has gotten president trump speaking of military readiness. we know he spoke to another leader here, japanese president abe. this is all supposed to be a day where we moved closer to peace here in this region.

north korea claims that they dismantled their nuclear test side in the northeastern part of the country on thursday and they said at the time that it was an effort to gain peace and stability. while foreign reporters were at the scene recording spectacular explosions, the collapsing of the doubles, there were no confirmation of claims. it was soon as a good will gesture by pyongyang in run up to the summit. maybe there's a little bit of buyer's remorse. no, we have not heard anything from pyongyang yet in direct response to the president's message. they have been more responsive. maybe we'll get something friday. back to you. >> you know, ari, it's interesting because south korea had put it at 99% that this would happen when the south korean president moon was just

at the white house this week with president trump. president trump is not going to say what happened. but you think you know. >> i'm interested in the way donald trump did not answer what changed. makes me think that it's not just a straight united states north korea matter. there's something involving china and north korea that the president doesn't like but he's not ready to blame china for. that's just my guess. it's logical that you should explain. what changed? >> and he had said earlier in the week, i don't like the fact that kim jong-un's behavior or the north's behavior changed. he didn't say how or why. katy? >> and north korea's behavior has changed. we had the summit with moon. >> the handshake. >> yeah. walking a cross from north and south korea. but the south's press credentials.

that didn't happen. going back to mike pompeo testifying on the hill. he said that north korea was not responding to logistical questions. if you can't have the president flying a cross the world to meet at a summit that kim jong-un doesn't show up for. >> a completely different topic. the nfl policy on players kneeling during the national anthem. the president weighed in on what many call a big victory for him whether the controversy will be settled. we debate it. stay close. ♪ i like it, i love it,

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>> the nfl announcing yesterday its new policy after a season of controversial protests during the national anthem. started with colin kaepernick taking a knee to protest police

brutality in 2016. more players joined in after president trump said athletes that don't stand should be fired. the new policy says players have to be on the field when the national anthem is played or the teams will be fired. if they don't stand, they can stay in the locker room. >> i don't think people should be standing in locker rooms, but it's good. you should have to stand proudly. maybe you shouldn't be there. you have to stand proudly for the national anthem. and the nfl owners did the right thing if that's what they have done. >> christopher johnson is not on board with it from the players association. he says he's players can kneel and they will pay the fines. the nfl said the fines will determine how much that will be at a later time. nancy pelosi has this to say about this. >> i would be more okay with it if they consulted with the

players. [applause] i don't think the player as agree to this. this is the owners. it's the owners that would be fined. >> ari fleischer is on the couch. not only were you a former press secretary, but you're uniquely to qualify to respond because you have a sports consulting firm what do you through? >> number 1, i love going to games and still do go with my father and taking my son. i love whether it's baseball, football, they stand for the national anthem. >> many of us do. >> it's an american tradition. >> there's players that don't want to. it's their right not to. they shouldn't exercise that on the job in uniform kneeling on the field. if they want to go to a local police station, good for them. more power to them. i hope the message is heard. when you show up to your job, you don't have the right to take a knee, do something contrary to the rules with the nfl. good for the nfl.

>> the solution is to stay in the locker room. if you want to kneel, don't do it on the field. >> yes. don't do it at your place of employment. if you object so much of the playing of the national anthem, don't do it at the place of your employment. don't come out on the field. i think that's an appropriate rule. >> you pointed out in our commercial conversation that college teams do it that way for everybody. >> that's right. college does haven't to deal with this issue because -- >> but they're in the locker room. >> the entire team is in the locker room while it's played. in the nfl, the team is on the field. i like that. i like to see them cover their heart, the outward display of patriotism. one more thing. then i'm done. the lowest moment, when the president called the kids sobs. after that, 85% stood. only 15% did not.

>> interesting. very good point. >> we're ready to get back to a nice healthy fun entertaining football season. do you think? >> the nfl is looking forward to that based on the ratings. it's about violating american tradition, not standing for the national anthem. >> it's an easy thing to do considering you live in the country and you have a right to do it. you have the freedom to do it. the locker room thing is a cop out. you don't have to be a part of the time all the time. i played sports in high school. we were in the locker room for the national and them and stood out of respect. >> but nobody could see you. >> right. it was out of respect. we did it even though people couldn't see it. >> amen. >> definite of integrity, by the way. >> i'm an mathelet, not an athlete. i never -- >> maybe more like debate. >> that being it is a, i think

one of the reasons why we face this issue is because the nfl didn't have rules in place. this is an employment law issue. if there was something in place previously, there wouldn't have been so much chaos. this is a matter of tradition and -- >> could i ask you when a player decides to wear socks that are offensive and other players want to wear a pin for officers fallen in texas, why the nfl broken on getting them right and consistent? >> a good question. one of the things that need to be looked at, how they negotiate their contracts. maybe it's something where the players and the owners need to re-visit. >> favorite sport, ari? >> it's baseball in baseball season and football in season. >> anybody? >> hockey. >> i like them all. former white house press secretary sean spicer is suggesting it could be time to scrap the daily white house press briefing. what?

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>> former white house press secretary sean spicer says the white howell daily press briefings need to be cut back. here he is this week. >> the briefing is more of a show than an outlet of information for the media. the time and effort that it takes to get that briefing going and what you get in return is not worth it anymore. >> spicer says the white house press office should still be available to give responses and updates, but he points out that other agencies like defense department don't always have a daily on-camera briefing. a man who stood behind that podium many days, what do you think? >> makes the nfl issues look easy. >> what is the solution? >> no, they should continue. but take it off camera. we've been arguing that a show. the government should be able to take questions. it's healthy. it's a good part of the process.

it's painful. every government should have to endure it. take it off camera so it's more serious. >> then the american people might claim hey, we want more transparency. >> i don't know. i think people watch the media now and they watch that briefing and what's going on. they've limited them and gotten shorter and shorter since the administration has come into play. when you look at the media's approval numbers, they watch it and they agree with sean spicer and say it's a show. you have people like jim acosta making political comments rather than back and forth with sarah sanders. someone that is in the room often, it's a show. it's a show for the people that sit in the front row, second row, third row. some ask very legitimate questions. a lot of times it's about getting a sound bite on the internet. >> let me get this in here. we're getting word that the white house pool has been called in to the oval office. it's five minutes till 1:00 p.m.

we don't know why yet. >> will it be on camera. >> another possible spray with the president. we'll keep you posted as we find out what that is about, ari. this is inside the white house. i'm sure you look back and you think what crazy days they were. we're getting word we might get another update from the white house. >> that's the president. that's not the press briefing. i watched mike pompeo's briefing theres no cut-away cameras. the camera is on the spokesperson. all of those correspondents in the front row want their face on their network's news asking their question their way. there's a cut-away camera taking a picture of that. >> john roberts is up there and we enjoy and love watching what he does. i would stop having the camera on john. you name it. it should be on the government spokesman.

>> that's another compromise. the other thing to think about, there's no cameras in the united states supreme court. >> we'll leave it there. the pool has been called into the oval office. we could hear from the president any moment. stay tuned. more "outnumbered" after this. ... (vo) we came here for the friends.

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press so he is camera shy. i don't know what the topic is. we'll see. >> we will see. thank you for joining us on the couch. we'll have more "outnumbered" for you tomorrow. here is harris. >> harris: we are watching the situation in the oval office where the white house press pool has been pulled in. as that comes together we will bring it to you live. the summit with north korea, meanwhile, is off. the president had his first words on that just last hour. perhaps he will speak again. we do not know. but for now we're going "outnumbered overtime." i'm harris faulkner. president trump canceled the highly anticipated sit-down with north korea's kim jong un citing, "tremendous anger and open hostility from the north." the president addressed his decision at the white house a short while ago issuing a warning to north korea. >> president trump: i believe that this is a tremendous set-back for north korea and indeed a set back for the world.