city? griff: party city helped make this happen. all the great chefs and pit masters, amazing meat we got to eat today. pete: and the navy weather forecast. abby: incredible. >> [applause] pete: more fox & friends. neil: remember how they snicker ed when it looked like these north korean talks had just flickered? >> there goes to the nobel peace prize. >> the art of diplomacy is a lot harder than the art of the deal. >> he got this letter from the president saying okay never mind he must be having a giggle fit right there, now, in north korea >> when you run international affairs like it's a tv reality show and you don't prepare things fall apart and that's what's happened here. neil: about that, i want you to take a look at this. yeah, you know these guys right? south korea and north korea kim

jong-un getting together for a surprise pow wow not weeks ago my friends, yeah try today these images you're looking at are from today actually just a couple of hours ago the two huddling for more than two hours at the demilitarized zone between their two countries and now we don't know who exactly called the meeting we do know it is very likely they were discussing hammering down a much more important meeting that again suddenly potentially on again summit that kim jong-un still seems to very much want to have with president donald trump it is a good thing we're told so many news organizations have refused to cancel their hotel reservations for singapore next month. they might be going after all because the summit of the century that critics were just laughing off, yeah, it is seriously looking like it is back on or at least a lot closer to being back on. wow. welcome everybody i'm neil cavuto happy weekend it's a good thing we've got this two hour live show on saturday because man oh, man we are all over this one today, with seoualmost,

south korea aware the president 's surprise and residents by anyone who didn't see this coming and then we got the white house where one particular resident might be very very up on what is going on , and liz cheney from all the way out of wyoming on the historic significance on all of this unholding as it happens where it happens everywhere it happens starting with where it all just happened, greg? wow. >> hey, neil wow indeed and an instant summit a saturday surprise involving south korean president moon and north korean leader kim jong-un. now they had met just a month ago along the dmz, this time on the north korean side no warning unannounced as you noted about two hours and we'll get a full read-out on sunday about what was discussed but according to moon' office in addition to inter-korean issues and this is the real important thing for us,

neil there was a frank, candid exchange of views about how to achieve a successful summit being planned between president trump and north korean leader kim. remember that summit was basically canceled thursday, by the white house following a nasty message from the north and then basically revived on friday following a nice message from the north. today's meeting is seen by experts here as the clearest signal yet that a june 12 singapore session would be back on this amid also reports we're getting that on both sides are heading now towards singapore. remember south korean president moon met with president trump on tuesday to advice him. there is some talk here that he was carrying a message from trump to kim but more importantly, it's seen that moon has become a real important go between on all of this could be seen today as possibly trying to further get some kind of a commitment from kim jong-un regarding denuclearization and remember, it has been a crazy week, neil.

just thursday we saw what the north claimed was a dismantle ment of its one known nuclear test site in the northeastern part of the country and that was seen as a goodwill gesture but there were no experts no analysts there no real confirmation of the claims. today though real confirmation, neil. a meeting between the two sides and they do look quite lovey dov ey, with handshakes, smiles and hugs and let's see if the love fest turns into something more concrete maybe that summit between president trump and kim jong-un. neil? neil: surprise surprise greg thank you my friend. all right to the white house, el eson barber on what the president might be doing right now, and whether talks to be back on. what are you hearing? reporter: neil well before president trump canceled the summit two white house officials told fox news that a group of top administration officials were headed to sing a for this weekend to sort out some of the logistics for this meeting. a white house press secretary sarah sanders was asked about that yesterday and she said regardless of when this meeting

might take place or if it takes place, the administration will be ready. >> certainly it's a possibility again the president wants to have a meeting if it can provide real results and that's what he said all along. we're always going to be prepared and if the meeting takes place on june 12 we'll be ready and if it takes place on july 12 we'll be ready. reporter: president trump tweet ing we're having very productive talks with north korea about reinstating the summit which if it does happen will likely remain in singapore on the same date june 12 and if necessary will be extended beyond that date. the president canceled a summit thursday morning after a senior north korean official made statements threatening a nuclear show down calling vice president mike pence stupid but as quickly as the meeting collapse the and died life went back into it with north korea's vice foreign min it's r saying they were still open to talks, president trump called vice foreign minister wan 's statement productive.

president trump: we're talking to them now. they very much want to do it. we'd like to do it. we're going to see what happens. reporter: when it comes to all of the back and forth statements president trump didn't seem particularly phased by it telling reporters, everyone plays games. neil? neil: ellison barber thank you very very much. all right let's go to house armed services committee member and republican congresswoman liz cheney daughter of dick cheney and so much more. congresswoman very good to have you what do you make of the sudden turn of events here? >> well, thank you, neil great to be with you. look i think the north koreans have been playing this same game essentially for decades now, and we've seen them do this where they make promises they make threats they pocket concessions and then they continue the development of their nuclear program and in particular, you seen them do this in order to get access to foreign aid which they really are dependent upon foreign economic assistance, foreign trade from nations like china in particular, and so we've got to be very very cautious and very careful that

we don't go down the same path unfortunately that we've seen too many administrations previously go down. neil: you know there is that verified within ronald regan made famous but how do you verify whatever the north korean s are doing? >> right and that's why i think we've got to be absolutely clear that there's no way that we are going to be able in my view to talk the north koreans out of their nuclear weapons program but what i think we ought to be doing is putting together a very aggressive, very strong pressure campaign, from an economic perspective. we ought to be absolutely clear we should be talking to nations around the world telling them to close the north korean embassy telling them to close the north korean trade missions and we ought to increase our intelligence capabilities so we can have a better sense of what they're doing from an illicit perspective from wmd trade and other areas and we ought to make sure the chinese and the russian s know they've got to make a choice that if they continue to do business with the north koreans if they continue not to enforce international sanctions then they are running the risk of not having access to

our financial markets and our financial systems, so there's a lot we can do from an economic perspective, contrary to sort of the conventional wisdom out there but we've got to be clear about getting it donald it does not involve concessions to the north koreans right now economic ally to get them to the table. neil: you know, obviously they have a different view of that, congresswoman, of this idea that the united states is going to be sort of like a sugar daddy to help them, but isn't that a role that china should be buying and is not, so what is the deal with them? >> yeah, absolutely. look, the north koreans if you just go back through history and look at what's happened to their economy they really are on the b rink of potential famine for example, if foreign in-flows of cash stop. obviously the chinese are the biggest violate or there, the chinese is their biggest economic partner and the chinese have to understand, you know, that we are not in a position as a nation to be able to put up with north korea armed with

nuclear weapons that can hold our cities hostage and that we won't allow that to happen so the chinese will have to make a choice. now if they feel they can play games with us, then they won't make that choice. they'll continue to help the north koreans continue to make things uncomfortable for us and possibly risk our security but if they know their access to our financial markets is threatened that will, i would imagine, cause them to make a different set of calculations. neil: now the president has said congresswoman that something must have happened when the north korean leader had that second meeting with the chinese president because you could almost trace the timeline to the more bellicose statements to the more in your face remarks or the criticisms of john bolton and all of that, so how much behind the scenes is not even behind the scenes are the chinese playing and what do we do? >> i think the chinese are playing a huge role behind the scenes in this. i think that it's important for the chinese to know they've got to play a constructive role but i'm also frankly pretty skeptical they're going to do that. i think that from their

perspective they don't mind too much seeing us threatened that's obviously their policy they've got a very clear and aggressive policy that has been one they're been engaged in for a number of years now to diminish our strengths, to diminish our military superiority and diminish the role we're playing particularly in asia but global ly and if they think that north korea threatening us helps achieve their objectives and their aims, then i don't see them being willing frankly to step in and play that kind of constructive role, so we have to make clear to the chinese that it is in their self-interest not to continue down this path and that if the north koreans aren't stopped if the north koreans continue their progress towards obtaining a nuclear weapon, then we're going to be in a position we simply can't sustain and we'll have to look at alternatives including military action as the president has said nobody wants to do that but if the world doesn't come together and put the kind of very intense economic pressure on the north koreans that really threatens their economy, and puts them back on the brink, then we'll be faced with an even tougher set

of choices. neil: liz cheney very good see ing you thank you very much. >> thanks, neil. neil: all right in the meantime, before there was robert mueller and donald trump there was ken starr and bill clinton and it got to the point where ken starr was ready to subpoena the former president to talk to him. it didn't come down to that but it came down to, well of course saying there's video testimony. that was then the stakes are very high right now. ken starr on what robert mueller is up to, after this. prudential asked these couples: how much money do you think you'll need in retirement? then we found out how many years that money would last them. how long do you think we'll keep -- oooooohhh! you stopped! you're gonna leave me back here at year 9? how did this happen? it turned out, a lot of people fell short, of even the average length of retirement. we have to think about not when we expect to live to, but when we could live to. let's plan for income that lasts all our years in retirement. prudential. bring your challenges.

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>> he said there's political spies embedded in his campaign that is false. this isn't spygate but it is a form of liegate. >> mr. president really no one except for you are calling it spygate because as i said there's no evidence or facts to support it right now. >> spygate, a terrible thing, exclamation point. what the hell is he talking about? what is this? you are the former fbi director what is that? >> best i can tell it's made up i don't know where he's getting that from. neil: all right, i'm not a lawyer. unfortunately, a very very good one ken starr to him in just a second here but i do know how to look up in the dictionary the difference between a spy and an informant as i'm told this person who penetrated the trump campaign in the fall some say dating back to the spring of 2016 is defined an informant is a person who gives information especiallily to accused or to cause suspicion about someone a spy as you can see on the right hand side of your screen a

person who tries to secretly get information about a country or organization very very similar to me but again i'm not a special counsel who had ever interviewed a president of the united states and forced the issue by threatening a subpoena. ken starr did that with bill clinton and he's alive to tell about it very good to see you sir. >> thank you, neil good to be here. neil: first of all, the president calls it a spy and spygate, democrats say nothing of the sort, what do you think? >> not much difference. people with quarrel over the difference. we tend to think of an informant as someone whose inside an organization and reporting out. a spy, we think of someone from the outside who comes in from the cold or whatever, but the point is, the person who the spy or confidential informant really doesn't know about the relationship that that individual has with the foreign government or whomever, so it's a operation. neil: so someone who shouldn't be there is there? >> well at least there's a

question whether they should be there. there's a certain false pretense , right? to the relationship. you think one thing, dealing with the confidential informant or the spy -- neil: it penetrated the campaign not hired by the campaign. >> correct. neil: so you can understand the trump campaign's concern? >> absolutely. i think we can play these word games. the key is what are the facts and let's get the facts and assess the facts, and then in this country, we need accountability. why was this done, what was the basis for it and so forth. neil: now when you finally were able to talk to president clinton, you had originally subpoenaed him to talk to you right? >> well, no we originally invited him. we invited, very polite letters i believe in the respect for the presidency and we tried to follow that throughout the investigation to not only accommodate his schedule but accommodate the dignity of the president. neil: so you never subpoenaed him? i'm sorry. >> we did issue a subpoena but

we then through negotiation withdrew the subpoena. neil: certain allowances were made for him right that he could have his lawyers by his side and the testimony would be limited i think it was about four hours? >> yes, yes. perfectly reasonable and i think those are the kinds of accommodations that need to be made for any president. neil: sure so do you think these accommodations are being made right now in the talks between robert mueller and the president >> i have no information but i have little doubt you bet. there's going to be a back and forth especiallily what's the scope of the inquiry. you hear the criminal defense lawyers who say, and i understand the perspective fully he shouldn't go to sit down with robert mueller but he is the president of the united states and so i think there's a certain need less to say obligation that attaches to that but we'll see what the presidents are doing. i think rudy being on the team is extremely helpful. i have the highest regard for

rudy giuliani but i think rudy is giving the president very good advice. up, down or meshed settlement. neil: you know many people say it's a mistake for this president to do it, and they point to the bill clinton example, where he thought he could control the process and some say he embarrassed himself. do you agree not with the bill clinton thing but you were doing a lot of the questions but more to the point where the president is subjecting himself to this that it could veer into all sorts of directions? >> that's what the defense lawyers have to prevent. stop the veering. our question was very targeted. it was sensitive but none the nonetheless was targeted. we weren't asking about his personal finances and the like so it was understood and we abided by our agreement we simply wanted the president to tell the truth. i know robert mueller. i think mueller's view is and i think the connecticut criticism about the people around him mueller needs the truth wants the truth and so if you do agree to go in, mr. president, please

tell the truth. neil: all right, you made history in that interview and in that chat with this line of questioning, let's take a look. >> did monica lewinsky perform oral sex on you? i would like a direct answer to that, yes or no. >> well that's not the first time that questions been asked, but since i believe and i think any person reasonable person would believe that is not covered in the definition of sexual relations i was given. i'm not going to answer except to refer to my statement. i had intimate contact with her that was inappropriate. i do not believe any of the contacts i had with her violated the definition i was given therefore i believe i did not do anything but testify truthfully on these matters. neil: that got out within minutes of that being finished, and it was proven that he had a very different definition of

sexual relations than most would have, but be that as it may, did you know at that point this has made my case, that he lied, or your critics said did you pounce on something that was so lurid and unnecessary that it didn't make your case? it was a married guy covering up for an affair. >> the whole issue had to do with the rule of law and honesty , integrity in the rule of law that's what it was all about. the background was what it was just as it is in any sexual harassment case. that's what the underlying case was about. did the president of the united states engage in sexual harassment? in a very obscene way and then what did he do in that deposition? so the information comes to us. we've assessed the information, we go to the attorney general of the united states, janet reno who then said this has to be looked into. why? perjury, obstruction of justice is very serious.

that's what we're focusing on. neil: so he knew this question was coming? >> he's very bright and he had great lawyers, so he had to know neil: you were on a remote, okay he was in the roosevelt room for this interview right? >> no, we were actually in the map room. and i was there. neil: okay i misunderstood so when you went through the line of questioning and were done, did you, what did you conclude at that point? i mean if you think about it, the investigation started out looking at real estate, transactions, and all the rest, and it veered into a relationship with an intern. a lot of people looked back to your investigation, ken and say this investigation is veered similarly out of control from its original intent to look at russian collusion, to business deals that could be going back many years. >> well first of all ours was not only not out of control, at

every step of the way, we had the authorization of the special division of the court and they in turn were looking to attorney general janet reno so we were not operating in any way outside , i realize there are questions now in terms of the robert mueller investigation, but ours just took a logical and somewhat orderly progression from the 14 criminal convictions including a jury trial in arkansas, but there were relationships including now one of the things that people have i think forgotten is that the tragic death by suicide of vincent foster jr. , the last person in the white house to see him alive was linda trip. it was linda trip who had the relationship with monica lewinsky and the rest is all history. neil: and that's how it goes right? without judging your investigation or even this one it does by nature go into areas that you didn't envision, but

the president and a lot of his people feel, ken, that this one is now looking at areas that few could have envisioned his lawyer s offices and home gets ransacked his former campaign manager same thing. this is more than just collusion , right? >> well these are very fair concerns. you always in this country want accountability, power can be abused. i was accused of abusing power and i said let's discuss that. let's analyze that at times we would litigate that before courts, and in each instance we were found to be operating within our authority, so that question is always unfolding in the mueller investigation because he reports not to a special division or he reports to the deputy attorney general whose the acting attorney general. neil: well is your surface view of what mueller is doing ring true to you? do you find any of this surpris ing or any of this odd? >> some of it is surprising but i can't assess it because i'm in

the black box, right? because i just don't know what robert mueller knows. neil: many of the white house feel all these agencies from the fbi to the justice department on and on are out to get him. there is a sort of a kabol and the reason for them to feel paranoid is they should look over their shoulder certainly people in power at time we now know their positions but we didn't like them and they've proven that. does that influence investigations? >> it shouldn't but there are a lot of troubling issues that and one of the things that i wish we could do a reset on, neil, is the relationship between congress, both the senate and the house and respective committees and the doj and the fbi. i wish we could have a treaty of peace and say let's get all the information to them while protecting sources and methods, so government is sensitive but government has to be honest as well. let's answer those questions. i can't answer them, but that's why we have our elected representatives with our

oversight authority. the other thing is we shouldn't overlook the internal mechanisms especially the inspector general whose report we're waiting for that could be very very important in shedding light on what happened. neil: well you know they want an additional prosecutor to look into this spy issue and penetrating the campaign and all of that. what do you think of that? >> i think the inspector general should handle it but i don't know all of the facts but given what i know, let's look to the inspector general and then i think we've also seen the office of professional responsibility of the fbi also doing really honest and forthright job and that's their reputation. neil: what are your relations then and now with bill clinton? >> he was entirely professional , but since then we've not had any contact or communication. neil: he was reportedly very angry and embarrassed at the time, humiliated, it tested his marriage and a lot of people on the left said well that's what

happens when the prosecutor goes way out of bounds. what do you say? >> the short answer to the out of bounds is look at what janet reno did when we brought the information to her, she said its got to be investigated, and we said, do you want it? and she knew that she couldn't take it. she being the department of justice. it had to be passed off to an independent counsel and at that time, we were the logical and appropriate outfit to take the very unpleasant task on, so it's not something we were eager for. neil: are you influenced by and i always think of this if you're robert mueller or anyone on his team and i don't remember the degree to which bill clinton but certainly his surrogates did go after you, does that influence you? the bad part, the getting singled out or fingered for being abusive? >> that's when you try to engage in self-discipline. you've got to set that aside and just say what are the merits what are the facts what's the law and let's just play it straight down the middle of the fair way. neil: now you can't recommend

impeachment obviously, republicans seized on your report to do that lying under oath as the catalyst but what would happen here in the robert mueller issues a report we're told the president is not a target. what would that mean? would there be other areas to pursue assuming that's the case, ken, where does that go? >> we have to see what bob reports to the deputy attorney general but it's going to ultimately be a decision by the deputy attorney general of the united states not robert mueller robert mueller reports to rod rosenstein whose a person of great integrity taken a lot of hits but a person of great integrity and rod will call it the way he sees it. neil: which in your gut would be what? >> i have no idea because i don't know a lot of the facts i really don't. it's a bit of a mystery that sort of unfolds each and every day so how do you assess all of this and i learned a long time ago as a lawyer then as a judge, don't jump to conclusions. neil: all right one quick conclusion that was out there,

in fact still is in the back of a lot of people's minds if it gets a little hot the president is going to fire mueller, maybe fire rosenstein. what do you think of that, if that were to happen? >> i don't think it would be wise. first of all the investigation will go forward. i think in some form or another it may switch over then to capitol hill because we've had a committee chairman of the president's party saying we want this to go forward. we had the senate majority leader saying very recently that based on the briefing he thinks that these investigations should go forward, and so they will in some form or another. neil: do you think the russians turned this election this last election? >> absolutely not. i think it's silly and preposterous. i say that as a citizen. absolutely silly. the more we find out about what was animating people there's just this and you see this almost globally, where there's a representative democracy people are really ready to say there is a swamp and wherever it is, and

we want some people to come in and clean out the swamp. i lived in the swamp for 30 years i have a more benign view of the men and women who serve in government day in and day out , but i think that was the politics people wanted the old regime out and they didn't want a restoration of a regime they had seen however successful or unsuccessful it had been years before it. they wanted a fresh start somebody would come in and shake things up and that's what the american people got. neil: are you surprised that bill clinton rebounded the way he did, not only through the last couple of years of his presidency but even today, arguably one of the most successful financially after leaving office, and held in very very high regard by a lot of americans. >> no, he really is the come back kid. he showed again and again, incredibly resilient and obviously very skilled. david marinus, of the washington post and his biography of the

president first in his class, put it very well. he's first in his class. he's valedictorian in terms of the political class. neil: after that i'm always curious after the four hour ordeal for you i'm sure, how did it end up and how did you leave each other? >> well actually the president 's credit came back in after that most unhappy interview and shook everyone's hand. neil: yours included? >> mine included. he is so extra -- neil: extra hard? >> i didn't have to go to the orthopaedic surgeon afterwards so no, it was obviously something that he felt he needed to do. the relational powers of william jefferson clinton should never be underestimated. neil: ken starr a bit of history from the form general independent counsel that was then a lot of people say a lot of the same drama behind the scenes today different cases of

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members. i can not imagine they are both here with me right now. thanks for coming guys. >> thank you for having us. neil: there was a back and forth on this about whether they're animals or not, forget about those who extended this characterization the president made to all the legals which he was talking about ms13 but do you characterize the people who did this to your daughter as animals? >> yes. no human, i mean, the way my daughter was murdered was un describable. i mean, just to imagine what they did to her and anissa is just, there's no words that can even put it and i think using the word animals is being kind. neil: could you tell me i don't want to go back in a difficult

time for you. >> sure. neil: what happened? how did this all happen? >> predominantly it started in the school. the bullying, the an antagonizing, her feeling the discomfort of how they were coming towards her, their approach towards her and her standing strong, and fighting back and not tolerating it as well as a human being that she was. neil: were they targeting her? were these gang members in her school and area? >> absolutely. neil: and she'd go back to you and say this is going on and what would you say? >> i'd been going back and forth with the school district for two years in regards of her being targeted, bullying, attacked, pushed, spit on, in school, and they told me they were going to be taking care of it, each time there was a meeting setup, they would say the same thing, and nothing was. they pretty much lied in my face neil: so they were treating this like a bullying incident but did you know at the time about ms13

or that this was a very different type of group or what? >> well, it was actually it was pretty much known within the community who they were. neil: really? >> and what not and they kind of started from like 2002, but you know, the actual crimes and everything and them starting to come out was really like between 2005 and present. neil: i understand the gang was recruiting more at your daughter 's school, right? >> yes. neil: and how would they recruit them? >> they would beat them up, they would bully them to join, but kayla was a strong girl. she didn't tolerate that behavior. she stood her ground. she made sure that, i mean, to walk into your school like when i used to drop my daughter off in the morning at school, you can just see her behavior, her

personality change. it warsaws like always watching her back and when she used to call me or text me, mom come and get me it's not a good day. i used to run up to the school and pick-up my daughter and from there i'd have my meetings or my talks with the school administration and they tell me they will handle it they will take care of it. neil: was she afraid for her life? >> i think she was at the time before the whole situation occurred, because it was a specific threat, done by signal as far as -- neil: we've since learned as you know far better than i, sadly, that there's a ritual to how these type of gangs ms-13, more to the point work. that they're members they do this as a right of passage and if you don't do it they'll hurt you. what did you learn about how this went down? >> on how my daughter was? neil: yeah. >> there's still some answers

that have not been i should say some questions that haven't been answered. it's just crazy how the situation happened. i left my daughter, i went to work and i kissed her on the forehead, i gave her a hug. i come home from work and my daughter's missing, so justine not knowing where your daughter is and your daughter's not picking up the phone, you get these crazy thoughts in your head, what you see on tv and you just like nope my daughter doesn't miss curfew. nope if my daughter is even two minutes away she's on the phone mom i'm two minutes away, and we're calling and calling and calling no pick-up and it goes into voice mail and first we thought that she lost track of time, you know kids playing the xbox, playstation, but for her to even be 15-20 minutes late,

it's not like her, so we knew something was wrong right away. neil: it had to be very painful for both of you as a parent myself just to go forward and talk about this and i can't even understand all that you're going through and how you do this, but you did, and what was the reaction you got from the president and what he wants to do or is committed to do? >> well, i appreciate him acknowledging there is a problem in long island with ms-13. he's the one who listened and opened the doors besides congressman king. neil: what did he commit to do to stop groups like this from penetrating the country? >> yes that in the sense of giving the support to law enforcement in all levels, in what they need in order to catch these individuals and -- neil: because you're not catching common criminals right? i mean it's the whole different process right? >> yes. absolutely. especially when the federal government is involved, so it

takes the task force of like atf and fbi and et cetera and i.c.e. everybody all in homeland security to create an agenda on how they're going to tackle this matter. neil: you'd been saying you don't want any other family to deal with what you folks have and i can understand that but i was surprised to learn that gang related violence inspired by ms- 13 and groups like it is the fastest growing wave of violence in this country, still. >> they're the demon itself, when you look at these individuals it's just seeing darkness. there's like nothing there. neil: how are you doing now? >> one day at a time. >> it's still hard. >> right now we're supposed to be planning her graduation.

neil: oh, my gosh. >> this year she was supposed to be graduating. >> pod my niece and her. she had a good at are brude when it came to basketball. she did very well especially when we had her one summer, well two summers straight she was at danny green's basketball camp and she did very well. she took mvp, she was the first female to ever take mvp at that tournament and she was doing well and then i was counseled by danny green himself to tell me you know what? you've got a star. she's good. neil: amazing. well you do her memory proud. i can not imagine, pretty evelyn rodriguez remembering kayla, and serving her and us, very proud. more after this.

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neil: man oh, man was that an amazing couple the news goes on and the white house press secretary sarah sanders confirm ing what we were already giving you wind of earlier in the show the white house for singapore will live as scheduled in order to prepare should the summit take place. now we're referring to the fact that the south and north korean leaders met overnight for a couple of hours along the demilitarized zone very few people saw this one coming maybe the president did but virtually no one else and now it seems an advanced team on the way to singapore here, they're dotting the i's and maybe crossing the t 's and how would the markets react to that when it looked like this deal was falling apart and put off at a minimum the markets tanked, when it looked like there was a possibility they could get things done down the road they stabilized that's how much this market is a lot has to do with china as well the other player here, let's go go to jonas max ferris, jessica tarlov, and our own charles payne. charles the market has been

trading on the ups and downs of this ha? charles: it has and of course the market is sort of reflecting this sort of anxiety if you will because let's face it the world, the markets, washington d.c. learn to live with a nuclear north korea and the north korea for a long period of time but then we all sort of most of us started to buy into the idea or the notion that maybe something is going to happen here. maybe against all odds, maybe something really the olive branches, the overtures particularly from north korea, the meetings so the markets they react just sort of a signal if you were they don't collapse but they do come down and it is pretty evident that even now wall street will love to see resolution here. neil: what do you think? >> i think that the volatility index when you look at it its been at a four month low and that is the indication of where we're going with this market and to charles point, we've seen this before. i mean we're living in a time where negotiations fail they come back again this is the mo of our president, so when

markets react so quickly, we just know around the corner there's probably going to be something that brings us back up again. neil: you know, i think markets are no different than just people, dominated by people and charles is a person and he trades and so you think about it , they like certain assurances that people won't blow each other up so it makes sense they would rally on the prospect that's good for peace right? >> absolutely and for the quick turnaround we saw this a few week ago when the iran deal conversation was going on and trump enters and we were having the same conversation, market doesn't like the volatility of it not knowing what's going to happen once there is a resolution it calms down, and charles you were saying a couple days ago this volatility is actually masking a long term trend which is what we should be paying attention to here and -- charles: a good economic trend we have a lot of good economic news. >> i must admit that, so i think that's really what you need to be paying attention to here. i'm not sure about june 12 and

it could be july 12 but i think at the end of the day, this will get done at some point in the next few months here, kim jong-un seems very dedicated to getting this done, so that he remains safe and in control and -- neil: what do you think of that, watch china as well maybe pulling some cards here. >> look i think to investors this summit has always been one part reagan gorbachev one part rodman and kim jong-un and i'm not joking but that's okay. you need a president whose half that to deal with this, gorbachev is no kim jong-un he's crazy too so anyway the point is i think ultimately what china does with us and this is more important there's not a lot of economy so to say with north korea anyway it's more other than for defense stocks which have done well because we have tensions with this country. i think is this going to be a tipping thing that will keep china not getting along with tariffs and that war that is very relative to the market and what you're seeing. neil: i think china dialed this back real quick didn't it? charles: oh, absolutely but

ultimately let's face it without peace there's no prosperity and imagine a denuke larrized north korea and all the gains we've had against tariffs and particularly isis that's an amazing back drop for the entire world. neil: we'll be talking again guys just want to update you that these nfl protests that have been going on will continue to go on and apparently it's all over the issue of not being able to kneel so some players have come up with creative ideas to ignore that but will that get them fined and worse, get viewer s even more ticked off? we're on it after this. ron! something's going on at schwab. oh really? thank you clients? well jd power did just rank them highest in investor satisfaction with full service brokerage firms...again. and online equity trades are only $4.95... i mean you can't have low cost and be full service. it's impossible. it's like having your cake and eating it too. ask your broker if they offer award-winning full service and low costs. how am i going to explain this? if you don't like their answer, ask again at schwab.

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years because he never made it to appointments, because he was busy playing basketball. if he missed practice, he don't get to play in the game. this is the picture that was on the front page of the newspaper. all you can notice is the braces! then, once he got to michigan state, he broke the retainer! my bottom teeth, they were really crooked, and i just wasn't getting braces again. smile direct club fits into my lifestyle so well. the liner is so great. it's easy to just grab it and go and then i can change on the road. i did photoshoots with my aligners in and you can't see them. i wish smile direct club would have been around when i was paying for them. i wouldn't have to take him out of school. i wouldn't have had missed work. it's like a great feeling to have good teeth. a smile is a first impression, that's why i think having a great smile is so important. neil: all right, i had a feeling this would not go down well especially for those protesting on be half of nfl players who don't like the new rules in effect that if you want to

protest the national anthem stay in the locker room in the clubhouse but don't be doing any kneeling outside during that big event. let's go to former nfl player jack brewer played for the minnesota vikings, new york giants, philadelphia eagles, arizona cardinals you do not mess with this guy. all right, jack what do you think of all of this and what it's creating amongst some players? >> you know, it's unfortunate, neil because i think the message is continuing to be lost. we spoke about this before. the national football league particularly the players should be commended. i mean think about it. there's no other private business, no other corporation in america that has done more to advocate for all the injustices that are happening to so many underserved african american men around this country. i mean the national football league has put millions of dollars behind the efforts of its employees. what other company has done that at the end of the day, the players have to realize, the public has to realize, these

guys are at work. when i played the national football league i was at work. there is no job in america that you can go into and protest your political views in the middle of your job. i mean, if we want to protest let's go to capitol hill. we have voices. we have millions of twitter and social media followers. we could talk about these issues and find real solutions without threatening to leave. this league has made so many millionaires african american men who have made millions of dollars and been able to go in and change their families, change their communities, why do you want to hurt that? why hurt that? the lowing has lost 25-30%, ratings are down, moneys being lost, why would you want to kill the golden goose? i don't get it. neil: you know the golden state warriors coach commented on this of the nfl they're just playing to their fan base and just basically trying to use the anthem as fake patriotism. nationalism and they're scaring people, what do you make of that

>> i think he's totally miss guided. it's really ironic, neil he makes a comment like that, but the nba and their players protest does not cost the league a dime. you don't see their guys going out in the middle of a court kneeling. their viewership is not down it's actually rising and so for him to say that, i mean you're comparing apples to oranges there. i've got a lot of respect for steve kerr, tremendous amount of respect and the sad thing about all of this, people can argue and we can disagree, but at the end of the day most decent americans, most of us who are fighting this good fight, i'd go out in these schools and i'd advocate in the community. we all want the same result. we just have a different way of going about doing it. we need to come together and put our focus on actually going into these communities helping these young black men, reestablishing discipline in our schools instead of showing these kids that we can protest against our job and disobey, you know the rule of law, let's teach kids

about law and order again. you know, we have a lot of crisis going on in our country and it starts at home it starts with parenting but you can't do that when everything that happens around you, you want to go against the rule of law. every job in america and people at your home is watching this show right now think about it. can you go into your workplace right now and start protesting your political views? no. you'll get fired. neil i don't know what happened with you at fox but i know at the jobs that i've had, if i go in and start protesting my political views they'll kick me out of the place so let's be realistic about this whole debate. neil: they get mad at me for breaking into the vending machines but that's a separate issue but i did want to ask you about what happened to the players who try to find a way around this and one idea that's all right we won't do the kneeling thing we'll either hold arms thing or something that won't be as obvious but you know what they're doing. what do owners do in that event what does the nfl do in that event? >> well you know the nfl is

given a choice, the nfl is not forcing players to stand for the anthem if you don't want to stand for the anthem stay in the locker room, when i played in the national football league we didn't even come out for the national anthem but you know, if guys want to raise their -- neil: you're right. that's a recent thing isn't it? >> yeah, it hasn't always been there if you want to raise your fist raise your fist in unity because we need to get the voices out and stand up for those that are voiceless and continue to do it but there's a time and place for it and last year i was all for the players kneeling if they wanted to it was their choice but the rules were not in place and now the rules are in mass and you've got to abide by the rules first. rule of law should be what is really overseeing it all and i think hopefully these guys will all calm down and understand that they do have a huge huge asset here and it's called the national football league and the national football league is good for black people and the national football league is

making a lot of black millionaires who can take those resources into the community and actually find solutions for these crazy problems, and let's get the messaging back right. let's go back to our kids and show them that they can respect law enforcement because these -- neil: oops, have a problem there that's jack brewer speaking his mind. i always knew he was a very good athlete he seems like a pretty good decent human being as well. so we'll keep an eye on that again more protests planned this weekend and throughout next week you're probably aware that the k north and south korean leaders met overnight along the militarized zone and now an advance team is headed out to singapore potentially dotting i's and crossing t's on june 12th as previously scheduled. let's go to former secretary of state for george bush. what do you make of these developments? >> i think we're in a watch and see moment here.

this is a long game and you have to remember that we're dealing with a country for the last 68 years has become more and more virulent in the process, a slow process walking them back, a stop and go, stop and go, it's a long game and what you're seeing, i think that president trump and mike pompeo and the entire team is really thinking about creating new thinking, and that's what we want here. i mean, we've seen we've seen developments we haven't seen in decades occurring right now. we watch closely and we go move to move, man to man and see where it takes us. neil: you know, secretary, i get an idea as angry as they were getting, that is the north koreans and by extent, the chinese at the trump administration, i don't think in as many years, the president would turn around and say the hell with it, we're not having the meeting and could have caught them off guard.

what do you make they were not prepared for that, much like the old soviet union wasn't ready for ronald reagan walking out of the conference with mickhail gorbachev. >> you know, that's apt and appropriate. and this is a chess game and the president has kept them off balance and china off balance. think about it, from the beginning, he breaks the glass and starts talking in pretty strong terms about the reality that no president recently has talked about, in a way that really makes people sit up and listen. the next thing he does, when kim jong-un suggests a summit, within 24 hours he accepts it. that's like you start a chess game, pawn to pawn and all of a sudden you castle. that's completely different and now you've done it again. he said, you know what, if you're not serious, i'm not serious. we can go about creating more pressure, go about talking how the future will look without this summit. all of a sudden, they didn't want that discussion and i think that china, believe it or not,

is actually being edged in the same direction, but it takes a long time to walk people back from something where their identity is tied up in nukes. neil: you know, you're the diplomacy expert, certainly, i'm not. i'm curious about the role china is playing here, secretary, because china is a very wealthy nation and a wealthy benefactor and, yet, all the economic pressures is on us to help the north koreans and not the chinese. and that just seems screwed up to me. >> well, the chinese right now, really 90% of the north korean economy depends on china. in one way or another. neil: right. >> so they're clearly very tied at the hip here, but the other side of this is for the first time trump has said and he's saying it to china as much as to north korea, he said trade and security will be tied together and we are not happy and not content and will not be content with a country that has tested a 35 kiloton yield nuclear weapon,

maybe, maybe even a 100 kiloton weapon which is what destroyed their mountain and an icbm up in orbit higher than the space station. neil: what do you think they're doing that, on a threat of a canceled meeting for something. trying to figure that out. >> i think they're at the peak of an a-frame. this was a flat roof until trump and now it's an a-frame. you will either accept the idea there's a goose that laid the golden egg that's willing to talk to you and give you benefits and move you from the dark ages into the bright light and willing to work with you, or you're going to see a ramped up, frankly, i suspect deterrent, military engagement, sanctions. we're not going to take anything off the table. all of a sudden, what was always hypothetical is suddenly very real, with donald trump, and this, to me, is the essence of how he operates. he's putting reality on the table and saying with great authenticity, you're either with

us or you're going to face the consequences of not being with us. and china, for the first time is seeing this. i would even argue, and again, you're the expert in the business world and i would argue the zte piece here, everybody is objecting to, how could you get china keep the going going. >> maybe there's a feint, within a feint and maybe there's a deeper understanding and i believe the trade-off is very real. i'll take security and give china and north korea a little economic benefit. neil: and to do that, zte the big chinese telecom concern, that was spying on us and sanctioned up the ying-yang, there's got to be a tit-for-tat there, but too soon to tell. mr. secretary, thank you. >> thank you. neil: we'll keep an eye on what the team headed to singapore is going to do. the i's it wants to cross-- it's the i's you dot and the t's

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glad to have you back. >> as always, thank you, neil. neil: maybe you can clarify a couple of things for me, sir, whether there's a slight difference or gap between your position on guns and the governor's position on guns? governor abbott seemed to be open in a variety of meetings he was having this week on this subject, post the shooting, to say that he would be open to some sort of action on guns. didn't specify what they would be, but presumably he would look at stronger regulations for registering guns, et cetera, and speedier background checks if someone is deemed a threat, how do you feel about that? >> first of all, i was in all of those meetings, neil, with the governor and spent a long day yesterday, an emotional day with the families, two funerals and two visitations and i first want to tell you, neil, that texas is strong. we have endured a long ten months with the hurricane, the

church shooting and now this shooting, and when we go to our knees it's in prayers not because anyone is taking us to our knees and no one is going to do that to texas. these families are amazing and we have heroes here as well as you know from this week. in terms of guns, the governor and i work closely together and i think we're the best team in america, on many levels for our economy and all the issues we face in texas, we have a robust state leading the country. on guns, we're looking at common sense solutions. i said at the press conference on the first day, we need to be sure gun owners which i am, we're held accountable to keep our guns out of the hands of children. in texas we already have a law that it's a crime if you allow a child to get a loaded weapon. we may need to strengthen some of those laws, but if you're a gun owner, you have to be accountable to protect your guns and keep them away from children. so, we're looking at that. number two, we're looking at making sure we have reports on stolen guns. we have a lot of guns stolen.

we want to be sure we know where the guns are going, who may have them and we have a good reporting process and we're looking at other time lines after someone, after due process, you know, in a court of law has potentially asked over their guns, how many days that is and of course, all responsible gun owners like we are, want good background checks. so i don't think there's any daylight, and i don't think there's going to be any other thought except that we need to protect people, but we need to protect our second amendment rights, both governor abbott and i are very firm on that, and-- >> and firm on keeping the age at which you can get the gun which is at 21, which i think is the case in texas now? >> there are a lot of things being talked about, neil, and the governor and i are working together through this weekend to layout a plan before school starts again in late august, but when we met with the families this week, neil, here were the three things that they talked about most. number one, they want to harden the targets at their schools. we can have all the behavioral

health and mental health screenings and that's very important, that's going to be part of this, identifying the shooters in advance to the best of our ability, but we have to keep guns out of schools. we have too many entrances to our schools. anywhere in america, you can walk in any door to a school. even if you screen someone, if they have six or seven opportunities to get into a school with a gun, that makes a dangerous, so we have to look at that and harden these targets to the best of our ability. obviously, plenty of efforts to get out, but they want our schools to be safer. number two, they want more law enforcement. in texas we have over a thousand school districts, neil, over five and a half million students almost in public schools in texas. 150 of our thousand plus school districts with armed police already, school police forces. we have another 172 districts, neil, that have teachers that carry. we've had that law on the books, teachers can carry with training so that will probably be expanded. it was almost unanimous, neil,

in the meetings, especially with the victims' families that they want teachers trained to be able to carry. so, we need more law enforcement, harden those targets, keep the guns out of schools from those who would come in and harm others, sensible, as some of the gun issues i talked about and then, of course, a bigger focus on mental health issues on the students who could be potential killers. neil: you also talked earlier in the week, about violent video games and some allowing abortions, we don't have the final vote out of this country, and you said this sent a message of devaluing life, but all of these are in effect worldwide. if you look at violent video games, they're provided almost everywhere, including our own country. the only differentiator, this is coming from gun opponents, that there are 3 million guns in this

country and way, way too many. you say what? >> i say that guns in the hand of law abiding citizens protect us from those who would harm us. if you look at gun violence across america, in many areas, it's down. in texas, about one out of every 17 or 18 people over age 21 have a license to carry. neil: you're right about the guns, but why does it happen so much here when the same force is at play and same about devaluing life and things you worry about and violent games, movies, et cetera, all pair mount across the globe, but why disproportionately here? >> neil, i can't compare, and i've traveled to many places in the world and i'm not going to try and compare, it's not apples to apples, different countries and different culture and family values and all of those issues. but, neil, someone has to step back and take a look at where we are as a culture. i did talk about how we've devalued life through abortion. we've devalued life through the

family unit, where many, many children grow up in a home without any father, any parent in charge, except maybe a really hard working single mom trying to play both roles and thanks god for them. and we have the estimates, by psychiatrists and psychologists, 95% of teenagers watch video games every day and more than half are violent games. and we're in a very open society, much larger society than many countries you talked about where it's a little easier to control the access and control some situations. it's not about the guns. no different than, you know, when someone's killed by a drunk driver, we don't blame the car, we say we've got to get the guy from behind the wheel and get him to a program. had not been for a gun in sutherland springs and that gentleman, steve, was with us talking to the parents and victims of santa fe. if it had not been for that

gentleman and his rifle, that church shooter may have shot others. we believe in our right to defend ourselves, we're not going to take that opportunity away from us to defend our families and our students and so we need -- and nothing is unanimous, neil, but the victims that i've talked to, the families i've talked to, the students i've talked to, the parents, go down the list and in our meetings this week, they want more law enforcement on our campuses, harder targets, make it tougher to get a gun in school and let's close the doors that anyone can walk in anytime and they want more teachers with training to be armed and we're not backing away from our second amendment rights. we're seeing our second amendment rights will help protect more students and that's where the governor and i are definitely on the same page. neil: governor, thank you, very very much. >> thank you, neil. a lot of heroes here, neil, a very emotional day yesterday and strong families standing on the rock of their faith and a community coming together as we saw in sutherland springs, as we

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bit the hard way. >> gone are the days of $2 a gallon gas. we're seeing it climb higher almost 31% higher compared to last year, who is paying the most when it comes to gas across the country? starting with california they're off in the winners, the average according to triple-a, $3.72 a barrel for regular gas. why are you seeing that? higher gas taxes. followed by hawaii a few pennies

shy of the price in california and then washington, so, you've got california, hawaii and washington, the three highest states. this comes before a long weekend, neil, like you just mentioned, 37 to about 40 million americans are getting into their cars and driving somewhere, hopefully somewhere nice, the beach this long weekend. we spoke to a bunch of them and found out what they said about the gas prices. >> this is god awful, luckily i'm trying a smaller car instead of my truck for a reason. >> i don't understand it, how they can justify it. >> you're going to have to drive, don't have a reason. >> the last couple of days the prices jumped 30, 40 cents per gallon, yes, it has an impact on us. >> the energy information administration says right now over the summer, the average price of gas should hover around $2.74 a gallon, that's about a four-year high we're seeing, definitely higher this summer, as you heard a lot of americans

aren't happy and statistics that say the higher gas prices are eating away at the benefits from tax cuts. what we're seeing though, why is this rally in gas prices? a big part is because of the price of oil. crude oil accounts for 70% of that up-tick in gas. what's happening with oil? we've been seeing oil climb higher the last little while even before we pulled out of the iran nuclear deal. why is that? you're seeing lower supply inventories across the globe, particularly in venezuela, there's a lot of political unrest at the moment and they provide oil. and then, also, you see strong economies. the strong economy in the united states, strong economies across the globe, and so that's pushing up demand. more americans are buying massive suv's, that means more gas. and so, the democrats actually believe that president trump is behind the higher prices. you have senator chuck schumer who actually spoke about this, listen to what he had to say. >> president trump's reckless decision to pull out of the iran

deal has led to higher oil prices. whatever meager benefit working families height might have seen from trump's tax scam for the rich is being wiped out by the gas prices that president trump is responsible for. >> and this means the average price of gas right now is at $2.98 according to gas buddy. neil: and funny about the schumer thing, actually adjusting the prices down. and we've got charles payne and jonas max ferris, and charles, the economy is lifting demand. >> yesterday was a horrific day for crude oil, down the most in 11 months because saudi arabia and russia getting together and probably pump more oil so the big run we have may have made fallen here a little bit and

consequently may see gas prices coming down. a part of this is the economic story, the demand side of it. the last time gas prices plunged we were in the midst of the great recession, we don't want to relive that either. there's a happy medium somewhere, i think we've approached it. neil: people pay more for the gas and pay less when they go to the stores? >> i think in some markets, but we've seen this historically to charles' point since the great recession. i remember in 2013 reporting on this. we saw, gasoline prices are high now, then we were seeing prices in california at $4. it was mind-blowing there. and i think at that point people were a little more cautious, but we see the ebbs and flows. for the consumer, yeah, this weekend may be a little bit of a sticker shock, but overall long-term i don't think it's going to have a huge impact. neil: i don't remember chuck or nancy going out in front of a gas station. >> their favorite exxon, i

heard. neil: when barack obama was president and prices were higher. >> i don't think that they took that trip then. but president trump did tweet about it and blaming president obama for that. there's a tweet for everything. an interesting point, that chuck schumer made in that presser there, about losing some of the tax benefits because of the high gas prices so if the average american middle class and low income family is going to make $1,000 because of the g.o.p. tax plan and cutting a third of that with the rising gas prices will that have impact in the midterm. >> it's temporary, and we're seeing gas prices when people are going out. >> we've seen that reported widely and still go out on the road. >> and americans will drive, and it's the holiday weekend, they'll go out and spend. neil: it's the chicken before the egg. >> they got a tax cut and they

have more money to buy the gas and not the price is going up and it's taking away the money. that's the schumer circular logic. trump making the prices go higher iran is the last one. neil: how would he make them go higher. >> he cut taxes. neil: all right. >> oil prices-- >> you're the guest, and come in on a saturday? let me-- >> i will say i'm very excited about this, i want to plug-- the prices $15 to break even at the-- >> another agenda. >> and i will say for the schumer and democrats, this is the stuff against obama that makes no sense and did $. neil: both parties play these games and charles alluded to something. the economy can bring problems, higher gas prices and caps off

what the saudis and russians are doing and we can see higher interest rates and mortgage rates at seven-year highs. where do you see this going? >> with prosperity, listen, let's talk about inflation 101. too much money facing too much goods. it's a four-letter word when we love when our paycheck inflates and our home prices. neil: you get a paycheck? >> every now and then, it's paper, by the way. the jobs associated with this. people need to think of oil as an american product, not saudi arabia, not russia, as an american product. we brought 11 new oil rigs online and an article in the journal, the best paying jobs are in biotech and crude oil, the best paying jobs in this conduct. >> that's the point that heidi hi hidekamp, in north dak, crude oil is good for americans and we

we should focus on-- it's a hard time when it's the right time to stand shoulder and shoulder with president trump, and saying this is not good for our constituents. >> letting venezuela collapse and providing us fuel did more for the price going up than anything we could do in iran. >> they let themselves collapse, they kicked out the americans. neil: most certainly did. >> that situation is what is driving our prices more than iran. we're not invading iran. >> after tomorrow-- >> they can't pump the fuel out of the ground in these economies. neil: looking at the big aerial view of consumers, shoppers, i think are the life blood of everything, do you see any of that affected by any of this? >> well, to the point, when it comes to jobs within these oil rigs and in north dakota and stuff, this is what i look at. you know, when we see a decrease

in jobs for oil rigs and oil jobs, that's what has an impact on consumer spending, it's really interesting to see when those people don't, you know, they have job depletion, what ends up happening to how people are spending. so when we see these job creations happening, that's when i look at how people go into-- especially into the holiday. i know, it's approaching june and this is what i start looking at now. when there's job creation, a higher spending, better economy. yeah, when we focus on that in the domestic sphere, that's a positive thing. neil: guys, thank you very much, good, all of you. we had ken starr on earlier in t the program, he said, yeah, my investigation could have veered off course. that's what happened to bob mueller. there was a distinction between what he was doing with bill clinton and what he thinks what bob mueller might be doing with

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>> first of all, the president called a spy and this is spy-gate. and democrats say nothing of the sort. what do you say? >> not much difference. people can quarrel over the difference. and we tend to think of it informant inside the organization and reporting out. the spy we think someone who comes in from the cold or whatever, but the point is, the person who, the spier or confidential informer is dealing with, really doesn't know about the relationship that that individual has with the foreign government or whomof. so, it's a clandestine operation. neil: you know, we go back and forth whether you're a spy or an informant or whatever and i drove home this point in this definition, that you're not someone who should be there. i think it's safe to say, you're

not someone who should normally be there. an informant is a person who gives information, especially accused or cause suspicion about something and drives information, especially about a country or organization or another country or organization, or for another country or organization. it's horrible and i'm reading that from far, i apologize. i don't see much of a difference there. i wonder if ron desantis who sits on the judiciary committee, what he makes of all of that. someone who shouldn't be there, shouldn't be there, shouldn't be there. i see it, whether the president wants to call it spy-gate or others do it may be more akin to someone who shouldn't be there-gate. i'm wonder why we sluff that off, whether you like the president or don't like the president. the whole thing is weird. >> it's a big deal, neil. here is the thing, if the fbi

was paying this guy and directing him to make contact with trump's campaign because we're told that they were concerned, this is the spring of 2016. a lot earlier than we even thought, because they're concerned about russia trying to do bad things, well, why the heck wouldn't you have gone to the trump campaign and briefed them and said, look, we're concerned about this, we want you to know this guy carter page or whoever they're concerned about, don't let anything happen. they didn't do that. so the fact that they didn't give a briefing to the campaign to know, to let them know this this could be a problem suggests to me that the use of, yes, a spy was directed every bit as much against donald trump as it was against russia. neil: you know, congressman, some have told me that maybe they didn't tell them because they suspected they were part of the problem. you say what? >> well, there was no evidence to support that and even today, two years later, this new york times article even admitted there's not been any evidence connecting the campaign to any type of criminal conspiracy with

russia. that's just the bottom line. and so, it would have been much better to do that, and i think at every step of the way, i think they deliberately took aggressive investigative steps because i think that they did want to get the goods and, oh, by the way, at the same time this is going on, the fbi's also running the hillary case with a lot of the same cast of characters, like peter strzok and at every step of that investigation instead of being zealous, they made disconnect and this spy-gate only adds to that. neil: and congressman, as i said earlier, the prosecutor whose original mission was to find real estate articles on bill and hillary clinton and into a relationship with an intern and some would question the--

and is that a reminder it would be a mistake for this president to submit himself to questioning by bob mueller or his team that these things can go out of control? >> i'd advise the president not to submit to questioning. i think it probably would be a perjury trap, i think the president could handle himself well. for me, it's constitutional. a president may be able to be subpoenaed in had certain cases, you have bob mueller, an inferior office, and he wants to subpoena the president to conduct oversight over article two of the constitution? i don't think that will fly on separation of powers grounds. i think it would be a bad precedent to let inferior offices in your government second guess presidential decision making unless there's somehow some obvious evidence this is some part of criminal enterprise, but they've not been

able to produce that at all. neil: congressman, very good seeing you again, thank you. >> thank you. neil: all right. in the meantime, we know this is memorial weekend and there are barbecues and sales and big events and we understand that, but it's also about remembering the people who served this country and continue to serve this country and perhaps no one has raised more money or helped them in many different ways than wayne newton, mr. las vegas. you know him for his shoes, they're outstanding, if you go to las vegas and don't see it, shame on you. you don't know the other side of wayne and what he does for people with very little notoriety. he's next. irement? then we found out how many years that money would last them. how long do you think we'll keep -- oooooohhh! you stopped! you're gonna leave me back here at year 9? how did this happen? it turned out, a lot of people fell short, of even the average length of retirement. we have to think about not when we expect to live to, but when we could live to. let's plan for income that lasts all our years in retirement.

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♪ >> if you have not been to las vegas, or even if you have and you missed a wayne newton show,

shame on you. many years back i was urged to see wayne newton in concert. i did. you know, i followed up three other times to see his show. it's remarkable. he's remarkable. i don't know are he gets his energy from, but i do know it's a hell of a show and gives a hell of a lot back to his community and joining us on the show, mr. las vegas and more, wayne newton, very good to have you. >> hey, neil, excited to be here, thank you. neil: this memorial weekend, your whole-- you've given a great back to the uso and other military groups and in fact it comes up a lot. this is an issue since you were a very young guy, you're relatively young guy, but what's the deal? >> i actually did my first show for the uso when i was eight years old, i'm from virginia, and they had seen me sing somewhere and president truman

was in his last couple of months and they were honoring-- it was the uso's birthday and they were honoring mrs. truman and the president was very upset about that. [laughter] >> now, he-- when you do these events, you know, it's at a time where this president is trying to recognize the military more, there's been a big increase in defense spending, and he's talking about making america proud again, great again. what do you think about all of that? >> i think it's fabulous. i think it's long overdue, and considering what some of the past administrations have done to our military, it was pretty shameful. so, when you hear about the crashes of the helicopters and the jets and those kind of things simply because they weren't taken care of, where this president is making sure that they are. neil: what is it like in vegas now? i mean, a lot of people have talked about how it reflects the economy and things of better

now, people are more pro predispose and in vegas' case we remember the tragic shooting. what is it like in this case? >> the truth is our city, neil, is very resilient and one thing with that terrible thing that happened on october 1st, last year, the one positive thing, if you can find anything positive in that, was the world became aware of the incredible people that live in this town and they have been incredible my whole life. i came here at 15, and they are very resilient and vegas strong, it's called and of course, i have to say in all candor that our brand new hockey team, the vegas golden knights have served us well in a time when it was needed. neil: and last time-- actually the first time we talked, vegas was pursuing a hockey team and i said, it's 200

agrees here, what are you doing with a hockey team, now they're in the stanley cup. what did i know? >> well, i think that that could have been probably almost everybody's reaction when we heard that there was a hockey team coming here because the one thing you don't think about in vegas when it's 120 is going ice skating, so-- >> you defied the odds. defied the odds. [laughter] >> how is the entertainment portion, you've done in excess of 125,000 shows. it's got to wear on you, but you keep doing it. >> the truth of the matter is i do it because i love it. my mother told me an old cliche a long time ago, if you pick something that you love, it's never a day's work. and i am-- that's been my motto, my entire life. i look forward to going to work, it gives me a reason to wake up and it's wonderful to see the smile on people's faces. neil: when you look at

entertaining today and, of course, it's gotten pretty risque, not only in that city behind you, everywhere, people are fast and loose with the language, you're not. so i think it was one reviewer says you harken back to a different, simpler, kinder, gentler time, i think i've got the rough words right. do you, do you feel maybe i'm missing out on all of stuff with in-your-face entertainers? >> no, i see and hear that kind of vulgar language spewed about on national television, in person or whatever, that was not the era that taught me that when you're on stage, you don't challenge people's beliefs, you don't challenge their religion, you don't challenge their politics. you're there to entertain them and i'm not sure that that kind of vulgarity does it. neil: how many presidents have

you known? you talked about harry truman in your earliest days as a kid. you've known almost every one since? >> i have known every one since and i met president truman that night. i think i have known somewhere in the neighborhood of eight presidents. it doesn't go back to lyincoln r any of those days. neil: i was going to say, how was he? that would be a tough crowd. right now, you talk about the economy and you touched on this before, but it does seem to be rebounding and there does seem to be pent up energy people spending, but when we talk about higher gas prices and moving up, and indications of a strong economy. do you worry that the fan base might be effected and things slow down, what? >> not really. i think the world, at least those who come to see me are very positive of about, the economy. i was discussing it with my wife

even this morning that there are practically no homes for sale left in las vegas. neil: really? >> because the academy has rebound and of course, you see it in all of those ways that you just enumerated. neil: you're going to keep doing this forever, aren't you? >> yes, i am, i'm going to keep doing it until people don't come to see me anymore, then i won't bug them. i'll stay home. neil: i don't think you have to worry about that, every show sold out. >> i have something for you. i have something for you, neil. this is the t-shirt that the uso is selling online, and you can go to uso.org and order it. it was voted on by all of our military personnel as the uso t-shirt for the fourth of july. neil: that one is awesome. >> i'm going to send this to you. neil: does it couple in a

quadruple large? we'll talk about that. thank you, wayne for all you do, we'll have more. >> you, too, my friend. god bless you. see you soon. i'm carl and i'm a broker. do you offer $4.95 online equity trades? great question. see, for a full service brokerage like ours, that's tough to do. schwab does it. next question. do you offer a satisfaction guarantee? a what now? a satisfaction guarantee. like schwab does. man: (scoffing) what are you teaching these kids? ask your broker if they offer award-winning full service and low costs, backed by a satisfaction guarantee. if you don't like their answer, ask again at schwab.

>> all right. officially starts on june 1st. alberto our first hurricane of the season is revving up in the gulf. rick reichmuth is keeping track. >> june 1st is a calendar date. here we are it's a subtropical storm. it's a tropical system and moisture. the center is down here kind of between the cancun area and over towards the western part here of cuba. you can throw weather eight up

here behind me here and that will be helpful for me. western cuba seeing most of the energy from this, as well as energy moving in across parts of florida. the storm is very lopsided the center of it right there. but you don't see any of the action going on in the center and everything-- there you go, that's the maps i needed. the energy is off to the east and that's probably going to remain that way throughout the life course of this storm and it's going to continue to pull off to the north. as it does, it will likely strength and little bit and not much guidance because it's a hurricane. it might be a strong tropical storm across the central gulf. there is the biggest impact to the east where we had the rain. we've had rain showers across florida and incredible amounts through the month of may and so, because that ground is so saturated expect to see the potential for some pretty big flooding. this is the future radar here, this takes the route sunday in towards monday and notice it looks like the potential to kind

of stall out there and because it's going to stay, it's going to bring the rainfall total higher and it's going to bring continued rainfall. this takes us sunday, monday, tuesday and a lot of areas across the southeast, even to the carolinas will see moisture from this, some spots, three to five inches, across especially western shores here, and the heaviest of the rainfall will be in florida, as well as toward the panhandle and somewhere in the mississippi and alabama, we can't say exactly where, but we know there will be spots there and heavy rainfall. maybe some isolated spots up to ten inches, and that will cause localized flooding and obviously people want to be out at the beach this weekend and handle the beautiful beaches, not a great weekend, the unofficial start of summer. neil: rick, thank you very much. great job with the barbecue guy, he gets the barbecue and i get to look at it. >> i feel it now, trust me. neil: make me feel guilty.

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♪ >> hi noon here at the national museum of the marine corps, just off from base quantico, virginia, this memorial day weekend. we remember and honor america's fallen heroes. we're also going to take you inside the training that goes on here at this base, especially for the officer corps as they prepare to fight the world's next wars, including the very high-tech attack simulator and a low te