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follow us at -- mark levin is up next. i'm steve hilton. see you next sunday. televised. . mark: hello america. i'm mark levin. this is "life, liberty & levin." and we're here tonight to discuss an issue that i think is of grave importance. what happens if the electrical grid goes down, and is it easy to take it out? and who might take it out, and what can we do to protect it? this is a very, very important program as far as i'm concerned, so i brought in the best, who i can think of, dr. peter pry. how are you, sir? >> thank you for having me, sir. >> my honor, i consider you the
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foremost expert. you've written about it, widely testified. the executive director of the task force on national and homeland security. this electromagnetic pulse, emp and other threats, director of the united states nuclear strategy forum and advisory form to counter weapons of mass destruction. boy, you must be staying up at night. you must have nightmares. you are an intelligence officer with the cia responsible for analyzing soviet and russian strategy and operational plans including emp threats. let's begin at the beginning. what's emp? >> electromagnetic pulse is a superenergetic radio wave. so much power that it can destroy electronics across a huge area. in fact, across the entire world in the case of a superstorm. a solar superstorm. emp can be made by nature, by the sun, by solar superstorm or made by manned by a nuclear weapon and made by a nonnuclear
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weapons as well. in the case of a sun, what we're concerned about is the once in a century, once every 150 years solar superstorm, we have geomagnetic storms that happen every year that affect countries at high northern latitudes. once every cently 150 years ago, nasa's estimate, a superstorm will happen that will create an emp that is so powerful that it can destroy electronics across the entire world and put billions of lives at risk. mark: electromagnetic pulse. >> yes. mark: is that what electricity does? how it moves? what is it exactly? >> think of it this way. everybody had the experience of driving down the highway with the radio on, and you pass under a high powerline and you lose the radio, and come back out on the other side. that's basically all an emp is. it's an electromagnetic field, all right. except it's much more powerful than the field that you experience on the highway. now imagine there is so much
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energy in the field, when you go through it all the electronics in the car are destroyed. now imagine that field is not just localized to a small spot on the highway but covers all of north america, and would destroy electronics across that entire area. that's what could be accomplished if you had a single nuclear weapon and detonated it above the atmosphere say at 300 kilometers or so. up in outer space. mind you, this is a different kind of nuclear tact than the one people are used to thinking about. it wouldn't destroy a city. there would be no fallout, no blast effects. if you were standing on the ground directly beneath the explosion and detonating overhead at 300 kilometers or as low as 30 kilometers, it's in the vacuum of space. so you wouldn't hear the explosion, there would be no blast effects. no radioactive fallout. mark: have we ever had one of these solar scenarios that you're talking about? you said every 100 or 150 years? >> yes, in 1859, there was a
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solar superstorm we called the carington event. this was the cutting edge electronics of the day. in 1859 telegraph key. colonial powers had strung telegraph systems in india, china, africa, north america. we had them in north america. we just laid the transatlantic cables so that north america and europe were connected for the first time. when the pulse happened, it was so powerful and viewers will see the simple switch is crude, made of heavy metal and all the rest, telegraph keys were melt. the wooden base burst into flame. telegraph stations burned down. the telegraph wires caused fires all over the world. the pulse was so powerful, it burned the atlantic ocean and had to be replaced. those were the horse and buggy days and wasn't yet electronic civilization. this was cutting-edge technology, more or less a
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novelty. today, this simple switch, the biode is the modern civilization. all of our computers, control systems, cell phones operate on the switch and millions of more times vulnerable to the emp than the crude piece of instrumentation. and that would put our civilization at risk if we had a natural emp from the sun like the solar superstorm. if a nuclear emp attack put all of north america under the one attack. mark: i want to get to the nuclear scenarios. you can describe what the electrical grid looks like in this country, and who runs the electrical grid? >> we have 300 utilities which is privately owned, not run by the government, run by private. mark: regional companies that all work with each other? >> yes, that's right. and we have our north american grid is divided into three parts, eastern grid, a western
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grid and a texas grid. and canada is part of our grid. on the same part of our grid. part of the eastern and western grid. so it's not just the u.s. grid. it includes canada. and they're all wired together except for texas, which has its own independent -- mark: why is that? just came about that way? >> pretty much came about that way. there are regional entities that manage and try to coordinate these various grids and texas decided, you know, decades ago that they wanted to be on their own based on -- mark: these are interlocking grid systems. >> yes. mark: regional systems. >> yes. mark: for the flow of electricity and the cables run above ground and below ground? >> that's right. extra high-voltage transformers. big transformers, the size of a house, weigh hundreds of tons. there's about 2,000 of them in the north american grid, and most people don't know it, but
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they start the foundation stones of modern electronic civilization. we cannot survivesa a society without them. they enable us to take electricity from the niagara falls so it can be used locally. the transformer were invented by nick lie tesla. all the technology was invented by tesla in new york, he built the first grid in the world. we exported the technology all over the world. unfortunately, like many things, we don't make fundamental elements of the electric grid in this country, transformers aren't manufactured in the united states. we have to import them from south korea or germany, and if these transformers were destroyed, it would basically end us as a civilization. they cannot be mass produced. each one has to be made individually by hand. the world -- mark: you said there's thousands of them? >> 2,000 of them. mark: do we have an inventory
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of them, a backup sources for them within our own country? >> we have a small number of replacement transformers. less than 1% in reserve, and in part, that's because it's so difficult to replace them. they weigh so much and they're so big, there's only three railway cars that can move in the hv transformer. bridges have to be reinforced, roads widened, that's assuming the society is intact and you haven't lost other parts of the infrastructure. as would the be the case in the aftermath of a worldwide emp. whole world can make 200 hv transformers. mark: how many worldwide are there, do you know? >> probably 10,000 worldwide. if this country were to lose half of the transformers, it would take the whole world five years to manufacture enough of them, assuming the whole world was not in a blackout, okay? but everything else was
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working. and i don't think south korea and germany and the chinese and the russians would be so generous in the aftermath of natural emp. that's why it's not the way to think of the dangerous blackouts that we're talking about. they're not temporary blackouts, when you lose hva transformers, another piece of technology is called the supervised data and control acquisition that runs everything. both of these things are vulnerable to emp. if you lose them, that's it for us. >> let's talk about this, from time to time in our country, we read of a state or a city that's without electricity for a few days. >> yes. mark: maybe a tree has fallen and hit a particular generator or a generator blows up. things like that happen, and then they're able to put it back together, in a relatively short period of time. but you can see right there, three, four, five days, there's a panic in place and so forth. and what you're saying is
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imagine this nationwide. >> right. mark: and when you start to think of electricity, everything we do is associated with electricity, even if you try and fill up your car, the gas station, the pump, electricity. everything we do is related to electricity, no? >> absolutely. all the critical infrastructures depend upon it. communications, transportation, banking and finance. we did an experiment on the commission, and i went to a grocery store and picked up an apple and wondered how did this apple get to the grocery store in the washington, d.c., area and the simple apple. and tracing the history of that apple, turns out it was grown in an orchard in washington, it was harvested mechanically. it was cleaned and packaged mechanically using electronic systems and electronic belts, put on a refrigerated truck and driven across the country so people locally in washington, d.c. could eat the apple.
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simple apple depends upon hundreds of electronic systems in order to deliver it us to. we wouldn't have the apple or any other food. only 30-day food supply in the country to feed 320 million people, and water would stop immediately. when you turn on the tap, it requires millions of volts in order to deliver that water through your tap. and the commission couldn't figure out how old we keep 320 million people alive with no food and no water, possibly for years. we estimate that if we had a blackout in this country that lasted one year, and that's entirely possible in the scenarios we're talking about. we could lose up to 90% of our population to starvation, disease -- >> hospitals we wouldn't be able to get to hospitals. >> that's right. the most fundamental things wouldn't work anywhere. in the case of a nuclear emp attack, car would be fried. airplanes would fall out of sky. nuclear reactors would go.
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fukushima, we have 100 nuclear reactors and they need electricity in order to keep themselves cool. mark: what do you say to people who say this sounds like a grand conspiracy. this sounds like fearmongering. you probably get this all the time. >> of course. mark: you probably got it from the obama administration. >> yes, we did. mark: what did the obama administration do in response to these scenarios? >> well, the obama administration, to its credit, at least it took solar emp seriously enough that they formed a task force to study the problem but they didn't want to hear about nuclear emp, and the chairman -- >> the nuclear emp is a nuclear event that wipes out the grid? >> that's right. mark: or a big chunk of it. >> with a nuclear weapon detonated at high altitude. if iran got the bomb, it could do it. north korea's got the bomb now, and continues about emp and threatened to do it to us, and that's exactly why the obama administration didn't want to know or hear about nuclear emp.
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they wouldn't meet with the chairman of our commission, dr. william graham, who is really the world's foremost expert on this. he was actually one of the people that discovered the emp phenomena in the 1962 star fish prime test when i was in elementary school. imagine not meeting with someone like dr. william graham, it would be like not meeting with albert einstein when he's trying to warn you that the nazis can develop the atomic bomb in 1939. that's how irresponsible the obama administration was. shutting the door on the albert einstein of emp, who is dr. william graham. not listening to him. not following recommendations of his commission. and, in fact, when the commission was reestablished by congress, obama holdovers in the department of defense did everything they could to sabotage and undermine our work. mark: why? >> emp did not fit into the narratives that they had for trying to sell two of the obama administration's major foreign policy objectives. you know, one was the idea of a
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world without nuclear weapons. trying to convince the world that nuclear weapons don't have any utility. you need hundreds of them. never be able to compete with the united states. that's not true. any nation that gets just one bomb because of emp, you know, basically becomes a nuclear superpower that could threaten the existence of the united states. so it didn't fit into the narrative of a world without nuclear weapons. and didn't fit into the narrative about the iran nuclear deal. if iran had just one bomb, okay, you know, that would defeat the whole purpose of the iran nuclear deal. it wouldn't need dozens or hundreds of bombs. and the verification provisions which are so poor would be a mortal threat to the existence of the united states. i and other specialists actually think iran has already got the bomb and probably had one for some years and the capability to do an emp attack. this is something the obama administration didn't want known or didn't want to talk about. mark: when we come back, i'm going to ask dr. pry, what do
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. mark: welcome back. dr. peter pry. what would be -- before we get to the question of how do we protect ourselves, the question is we need to figure out how we might be attacked. so what are the different scenarios out, there i'm sure there are many, which a country might want to shut down our grid? >> north korea may want to shut it down off a satellite. they have two satellites orbiting over the country as we speak that pass over several times a day that are at optimal altitude to evade national missile defenses and make an emp field that would cover north america. mark: how would they make an emp field? >> detonate a satellite over the center of the country and the field propagates from the location of the warhead to the line of sight. mark: there has to be a satellite with a warhead. >> a satellite with a warhead. mark: could they do that?
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>> they could, they could. we're not sure the satellites are not already nuclear armed. the emp commissioner is concerned there may be. we have recommended the satellites are shot down because the risk to the country is too great to take the chance. they could do it with an icbm, though our national missile defenses would have a reasonable chance of intercepting the icbms. mark: if the north koreans can do that with satellites, i assume the chinese and the russians are far ahead of them and can certainly to that? >> certainly, and vladimir putin has actually threatened that recently doing what's called launching an icbm on solar trajectory, the trajectory the koreans fly on. south polar trajectory. mark: why that way as opposed to this way? >> we don't have radars facing south and don't have interceptors facing south. mark: why is that? >> because during the cold war, we assumed the attacks would come from the soviet union. mark: a direct shot. >> the shortest distance to
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missile fields and bomber bases. and so unfortunately, we have left that flank unprotected. there are ideas and recommendations we've made for trying to, in a hurry, close this gap in our defenses. they could also do it by launching a balloon or short-range missile off of a ship, a freighter, north korea had a freighter with a nuclear capable missile in 2015. we only found out about that because they tried getting back to the panama canal and found hundreds of missiles hidden in bags of sugar on the freighter. fortunately it didn't have a nuclear weapon on it. demonstrated ability to get a freighter with a missile into our backyard and we didn't know about it. those of the nuclear emp attack scenarios in terms of how you might do it. other ways of attacking the grid too, and all of the other ways would be part of the warfare that china, russia, north korea and iran have all conceived and have as part of
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war plan. cyberattacks on the grid, you could take the grid down with cyberattacks that includes sabotage. mark: on the cyberattack, hasn't russia been poking around? >> russia, north korea, china and iran have been poking around. it is disappointing, especially during the obama administration, the chinese and the chinese stole tens of millions of records from the office of personnel management in one cyberattack. in another cyberattack, the russians shut down the internet for the joint chiefs of staff, dedicated to the joint chiefs of staff and interfered with white house communications as well for a week. at the time, there was a big scandal in the press. people talk about it in congress, then time passes and people forget about it. what people need to understand is what the probing are, let me use an analogy going bab to history. before world war ii, there was another new way of warfare that
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nazi germany came up with called the blitzkrieg, combined armor with fast moving infantry and part of the blitzkrieg strategy is motorcycle corps. the motorcycle range out in front of the armored spearheads looking for weaknesses in the enemy lines. that's what the cyberattacks are now. the equivalent of a german motorcyclist sitting on a hill looking out over lines to see where is the weakness and how are we going to respond? gauging our responses as part of this. and we don't seem to get that we're under attack now by the cyberattacks. behind the cyberattacks is possibility of physical sabotage, by commandos, non-nuclear emp weapons, so-called radio frequency weapons that can block out grids and the like all in combination with the ultimate cyberweapon, a nuclear emp attack is not a nuclear attack,
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it's a cyberattack today. big stick would be the nuclear emp attack that caps down all of this. the combination is irresistible like the blitzkrieg that newsy germany came up with was irresistible. i fear this time if we are not prepared and don't protect our systems, no coming back from it. and the bad guys would win, in their doctrine, replace one civilization with the other in the span of 24 hours. mark: we have the ability to do this to our adversaries and enemies as well, correct? >> well -- >> launching a missile, nuclear missile, exploding it above a particular country, do we? >> we have the capability not as good as the chinese and russians and north koreans have. they have super emp weapons, specially designed for emp. the united states has neglected nuclear forces and haven't
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deployed that kind of warhead. we have warheads, you can use any to do an attack, we could, we could. we've got cyberoffensive capabilities. physical sabotage capabilities. mark: do we prepare for these things the way our enemies do? >> i wish we did. mark: in terms of offensive capabilities? . >> i wish we did. i don't know whether we do or not. i suspect we don't. the reason i suspect we don't is because we haven't even protected ourselves from the enemies offensive capabilities. and if we understood and put it together and ourselves had mastered this new way of warfare and we're prepared to execute it, i would have to believe we would have taken the commonsense precautions to protect ourselves, but we haven't. mark: the commerce committees, the defense committees, the intelligence committees, are they aware of the grave threat you're talking about? they must be, right? >> they are, they are. mark: do they take it
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seriously? >> some members of congress do. actually the congress as a whole does. the emp commission was reestablished, done so unanimously. senator ron johnson, the chairman of the senate homeland security committee passed a really important bill in 2016 called the critical infrastructure protection act which directed the department of homeland security to start planning and preparing to protect our country from natural and nuclear emp. so congress takes it seriously. i wish they would take it more seriously. you know, one of the things that was done in the not serious category is congress decided to close down the emp commission at the end of september, in the very month that north korea successfully tested a hydrogen bomb that the north koreans described as designed as superpowerful emp attack. makes no sense do that. the commission should have continued if you're going to be serious about this. mark: we'll be right back. about this. mark: we'll be right back. (vo) what if this didn't
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the proposed summit. devastating flash flooding in ellicott city, maryland today. the city's main street turning into a river. parked cars swept away in a torrent. the entire first floor of buildings were underwater. there were no immediate reports of injuries but first responders are searching the impacted areas. hit by deadly flash floods in 2016. i'm alicia acuna in los angel angeles. mark: welcome back. all right. dr. pry, what can we do to defend ourselves? >> there's really no excuse for the united states to be vulnerable to emp or cybercatastrophes that bring down the grid or physical sabotage. all of them can be protected against, if you protect against the worst threat, the nuclear emp attack. we've known how to do that for 50 years. the department of defense
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protecting military ss using surgers and blocking devices and faraday cages. mark: what's a faraday cage? >> a metal box that encloses the structure that keeps the emp from getting in at the electronics. air force one is a gigantic faraday cage. mark: in other words, it defends against the electromagnetic attacks? >> yes, that's right. mark: on whatever is under it. >> that's right. it keeps the electronics inside safe. and we can do the same for the electric grid and it wouldn't be that expensive. the emp commission estimated it would cost 2 billion to $3 billion. mark: for the entire grid? >> yes, the entire national grid. we used to give away in foreign aid to pakistan until president trump fortunately stopped that exercise. if we took the foreign aid to pakistan -- mark: i don't understand, they spend over $4 trillion a year. >> yes. mark: the gao reports we waste
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125 to $250 billion a year. >> that's right. mark: 2 to $3 billion a year, that's mustard money for the federal government? >> i agree. mark: i'm not talking down the money. as far as the federal government goes, that's a pittance. is there a reason why that's not slipped into the omnibus bills? >> yes. the electric power industry doesn't want to do anything against the emp, and they have very deep pockets. they own half of k-street, lobby against bills. there is also -- mark: why wouldn't they? it would destroy their entire industry? >> i know. mark: don't believe it's going to happen? >> they are not experts on emp, okay? and the -- they don't see their jobs and their right as being national and homeland security. they see that as the job of the federal government and also want to have a regulatory environment such as exists now where in effect the electric
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power industry is the last infrastructure that regulates itself. we have many examples from history where industries put themselves out of business or seriously harmed their customers. for example, the zeppelin industry, convinced itself it could fly people around in hydrogen gas balloons safely if they exercise the right operational procedures. but had there been a federal aviation administration in the 20s, we might still have zeppelin. mark: this is even more compelling. we're not talking about regulating, taxing them, those sorts of things. talking about protecting the grid in order to protect the american people. it's a national security issue. >> yes, i quite agree. it is a national security issue but the electric power industry. bad guy scenario is called the north america reliability corporation. they are not engineers, not technicians, mostly lawyers at the top and see their job as to avoid having to do anything
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that the feds want to impose upon them in terms of protecting from an emp or cyber, even the tree branch threat. great northeast blackout was caused by a tree branch that contacted a power line in 2003 and put 50,000 americans in the dark. it took foot dragging before they improved security against the country. mark: they want to spend a trillion and a half on infrastructure. >> you are reading my mind. mark: and we haven't talked about. this let's put two or three billion dollars aside for this? >> exactly, that's one of the emp commission's recommendations in the reports that we've put forward in our advice, when we have briefed the national security council, that emp protection should be made part of the infrastructure of renewal program, and one of the things that we need is an executive agent at the level of the white house. somebody responsible for protecting the national grid and the other critical
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infrastructure's too from emp, cyber, from all the threats we've been talking about because the chief problem is nobody is in charge of protecting the critical infrastructures. never thought about that. mark: what would we do for two or three billion dollars? >> install faraday cages and blocking devices and surge arrestors on the transformers. you can put a surge arrestor on the transformer, just like on the personal computer to protect it from lightning, you can have a specially designed surge arrestor that will protect against lightning, nuclear emp, emp from the sun. had we done so, it would protect you against all of these worst-case scenarios, not just nuclear emp and cyber, but also severe weather like hurricanes. millions of people or hundreds of thousands of people who are made homeless for months by hurricane sandy would have been able to go home earlier if the electric grid had been hardened against nuclear emp because it would have been able to survive the overvoltages that happened during hurricane sandy as a result of high power lines
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getting knocked down and transformers and skatists being knocked down. you will be able to come back more quickly from the lesser threats. not just for the rare, exotic scenario of a terrorist nuclear emp attack. it would improve the security of american people from things that happen every year, tornadoes, hurricanes, ice storms, that cause blackouts. and you don't have to be a physicist to see the grid is at risk. if you just look at the history of blackouts and our long recovery times that are required after there's these hurricanes, you can see there's something wrong. look at puerto rico, you know? puerto rico is still not recovered as a relt of wentough there. clearly, if something like puerto rico isoing to absorb all the emergency resources of the continental united states to get its recovery week going to be in huge trouble if a nuclear emp takes down the
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national grid. mark: incredible. >> we've got to do better. mark: don't forget, just a reminder, join us every week night on levin-tv, on conservative tv, give us a buzz, 844-levin-tv and join us. that's 844-levin-tv.
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country on emp catastrophe. he's the first president to include emp in protecting the electric grid and other critical life sustaining infrastructures from emp. moreover, numerous meetings between the emp commission and the national security council, and talked about making emp part of the plans to modernize the critical infrastructure. so the difference between the trump administration and the obama administration is night and day. mark: did you meet with the obama national security council? >> they never let us. mark: for eight years, you never met? >> no, they never met with the commission and weren't interested in implementing. in fact, there was a general government accountability office report done in 2015 that showed zero of the recommendations were implemented by the obama administration. mark: and it was created by congress, it's a legitimate commission? >> yes, of course, the purpose of commissions like this is to
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basically provide a definitive answer for purchases public policy about the way forward, and the commission system has tended to work well. we have national missile defense today and protection against biological and chemical agents because of the result of commissions. there is a result under the clinton administration that laid out the rules that started us on the pathway to preparedness against cyberwar fare and wish i could say the obama administration followed the advice of the commission, but it didn't, we were ignored for eight years until the trump administration, and i just hope it's not too late because now, eight years ago, you know, north korea didn't have missiles that could reach the united states, you know. it wasn't testing hydrogen bombs but it is today and poses a clear threat. mark: is this going to link in with the notion of our strategic defense initiative, started under reagan, and conservatives and republicans have tried to carry this
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forward through administrations but it's been a rocky road? >> absolutely. you know, i think, improved national missile defense, bringing back president reagan, the strategic defense initiative, you know, is one of the solutions. when you're dealing with existential threat like this, an existential threat that could end your civilization. you want belts and suspenders. the worst thing would be to -- we are facing threats from north korea, iran developing ballistic missiles. china accelerating development of nuclear missiles. russia threatened us a month ago with all of these new generation nuclear missiles. >> hypersonic weapons. >> that we have no counterparts to. and nuclear weapons that we have no counterpart to. it would serve them all right if we neutralized all this technology with ronald reagan's vision of space-based missile
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defense. in fact under the clinton administration, we were ready to go. it's a myth that strategic defense initiative didn't produce anything it. produced several systems, including one called brilliant pebbles that could have been deployed during the clinton administration. mark: what was that? >> it was basically a space-based interceptors, you know, there were autonomous space based interceptors. you could have put up a couple of thousands of them, and they would have intercepted during boost phase, mid course and ranchery phase along the trajectory missile at each of the phases and given you high probability of interception. mark: shoot up into space, then you flatten out and they come down. >> that's right, and brilliant pebbles could have shot them at each of these phases and intercepted not just a small threat from north korea but actually designed to protect us as a missile shield from a mass attack from the soviet union, and it could have done that would and have rendered -- the
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net effect would have been to realize reagan's goal which was to render nuclear missiles obsolete and created a technological revolution that would give the advantage to the defender instead of the attacker. right now we're in a technological phase where the attacker has all the advantages, and this puts tremendous pressure on the sides to do a first strike, and particularly for the bad guys, they know they would get tremendous advantages from a first strike. brilliant pebbles, strategic defense initiative would take ta away and put it on the defender and make it risky to attempt a first strike. transitioning from a policy that we know as mutual shared destruction to a policy i like to call sane, strategic assured national existence. mark: we'll be right back.
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. mark: welcome back. you know, we are a nation at least in part of rugged individuals, and some of us want to protect ourselves. we can't just rely on the government. >> that's right. mark: is there a way to do that? >> absolutely. you know, people should have a supply of food and water. you have a generator. mark: right there people are going to say, are you a bunch of nuts? look at hurricane, people have food and water, survive, and
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others have to wait for the government to drop something from the helicopters? >> yes, that's right. it's unfortunate that so-called survivalism or preppers have gotten a bad reputation these days because my father's generation, the great generation that lived through the great depression and survived world war ii. all the people whether they are republican or democrat, all of them, today we would describe as preppers. they had seen government fail in war and peace and wanted to be their own first line of defense for families and had to be during the great depression. my father fed his family by hunting wood chucks and heated them home by heating coal that fell off trains on the railroad tracks. we had a garden, my mother was constantly canning foods against the day of who know what? the nuclear war? mark: what can you do on a
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electromagnetic nuclear attack for your home or business? >> the same as a hurricane or any emergency situation. have a food supply, water supply. medicine supply. mark: can you have a room or something like that protected? >> you could have a faraday cage, a metal shed could be -- mark: that's all it takes? a metal shed. >> if you have electrical equipment, medical equipment or communications equipment that you wanted to keep safe. if you had a metal garbage can with a tight fitting lid and put the equipment inside a plastic bag, that would mitigate the effects. you should have emergency generator at your house, and don't put it on automatic, leave the switch on manual. so there are things, you could have solar panels which are inherently robust against emp, anything that makes you more self-sufficient would be a way of protecting yourself. and you can also protect your
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state. people shouldn't have the impression, shouldn't wait for washington. all the solution shouldn't come from washington. if you got a governor in your state or the state legislature to require utilities to protect the state grid, even if the regional grid went down, you would be able to protect your state and be able to recover from even a worst case emp, if that state took the appropriate precautions. i've written a book called blackout wars that is a manual to describe how can you go about doing that and get your state protected. mark: we'll be right back. jardiance asked: when it comes to managing your type 2 diabetes, what matters to you? you got a1c, heart, diet, and exercise. slide 'em up or slide 'em down. so let's see. for most of you, it's lower a1c. but only a few of you are thinking about your heart. fact is, even though it helps to manage a1c, type 2 diabetes still increases your risk of a fatal heart attack or stroke.
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esurance. see solo: a star wars story now playing. doctor, what do you say to people who say this is interesting? >> well, the north koreas know it's a real threat. the chinese and iranians know about it. people said the same thing
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before pearl harbor happened. 90% of americans didn't think there would k be world war ii would happen until it happened. if you were to ask the mainstream media and opinion makers they would say something like 9/11 happening was impossible. one of the disadvantages was a nation of optist. we have to pick ourselves up from the floor. i begged the american people to pay attention to this. read the commission reports. it's real. if it happens this time we'll get no second chance. the onlyer adequate response to this is to protect our critical life sustaining infrastructures before it happens. >> of course the nfc takes it seriously, congress takes it seriously, the only issue is if
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we take it seriously. ladies and gentlemen, thank you for watching tonight's show. join us next time on life, liberty, and levin. >> previously on "legends and lies"... >> france will fight us every hour previously on legends and lies. >> france will fight us until the war is over. >> it doesn't matter. >> send a barrel. >> maybe itly will make them fight. >> if lincoln choses to fly the black flag he must be prepared to be repaid. >> send a telegram to the president. atlanta is ours.

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