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glowing eyes. thank you so much. [applause] it's really beautiful. thank you. you know that, right? also joining us today is a very special friend, 7-year-old christian jacobs, who is here with his mom britney. i met christian exactly one year ago today. last year after the wreath laying ceremony, christian walked over to me with great confidence, shook my hand, looked me straight in the eye and asked if i would like to meet his dad. he loved his dad. marine sergeant christopher jacobs, who died when christian was just eight months old. next christian, looking as
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sharp as you could look dressed in a beautiful marine outfit. i have never seen a marine look that good in my life, christian -- [applause] he wanted to look good, he told me, as a tribute to his father. and he led me to his dad's grave and we paid our respects together. it was a moment i will always remember. christian, i want you to know that even though your father has left this world, he has left it for the next, but he is not gone. he will never be gone. your dad's love, courage and strength live in you, christian, and as you grow bigger and stronger, just like him, so, too, does your
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father's incredible legacy. so thank you both. that's so beautiful. thank you. [applause] thank you. thank you, christian. good to see you. he has become my friend, i will tell you. a special young man. to every family member of the fallen, i want you to know that the legacy of those you lost does not fade with time but grows only more powerful. their legacy does not, like a voice in the distance, become a
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faint echo, but instead their legacy grows deeper, spreading further, touching more lives, reaching down through time and out across many generations. through their sacrifice, your loved ones have achieved something very, very special, immortality. today we also remember the more than 82,000 american servicemen and women who remain missing from wars and conflicts fought over the past century. we will never stop searching for them. [applause] and whenever possible, we will bring them home. we pledge to remember not just on memorial day, we will always remember them.
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we will remember them every day. moments ago, i laid a wreath in tribute to those resting in honored glory. for more than 80 years the sentinels of the old guard have kept watch over the tomb of the unknown soldier. serving in this elite unit is among the most prestigious honors in the united states military. while the rest of us sleep, while we go about our lives, through every minute, through every day, through freezing cold, scorching heat and raging storms, they stand watch. even when the earth shook beneath their feet on 9/11 and smoke from the pentagon darkened the sky above these tree-lined hills, here they
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remained faithful at their post, eternal on guard. they never moved. the sentinel always stands because america never forgets, it's our heroes who make us who we are and who determine what we will be. [applause] our fallen heroes have not only were in our history, they shape our destiny. they save the lives of the men and women with whom they served. they care for their families more than anything in the world, they love their families. they inspired their communities, uplifted their country, and provided the best example of courage, virtue, and valor the
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world will ever know. they fought and bled and died so that america would forever remain safe and strong and free. each of the markers on that field, each of the names engraved in stone teach us what it means to be loyal and faithful and proud and brave and righteous and true. that is why we come to this most sacred place. that is why we guard these grounds with absolute devotion. that is why we always will remember. because here, on the soil, on these grounds, beneath those fields, lies the true source of american greatness. of american glory.
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and the american freedom. as long as we are blessed with patriots such as these, we shall forever remain one people, one family, and one nation under god. [applause] it's been my great honor to be with you today. i want to thank you. may god bless the families of the fallen. may god bless the men and women who served. and may god bless the united states of america. our great country. thank you. thank you very much. [applause]
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>> the commander-in-chief addressing the country on this memorial day from arlington national cemetery. in doing so, addressing the families whose loved ones paid the ultimate sacrifice. president trump saying to those people today, we ask god to comfort your pain, to ease your sorrow, to wipe away your tears. the president standing in the center of arlington national cemetery saying those who paid the ultimate sacrifice are faithful and proud, brave, righteous, true. >> he talked about all the individuals there showing courage, virtue, valor. i thought it was specifically, you know, poignant that he talked to the families and addressed the family members that are there. of course, family members very familiar with that kind of loss. [ [bugle playing "taps" in the
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background] >> now we receive the benediction. >> playing "taps" as the proceedings continue there. president trump, the defense sector jim mattis on the right of your screen. let's bring in congresswoman former -- just got back as well from south korea a few hours ag ago. as she traveled to that region of the dmz.
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congresswoman, your thoughts after listening to the commander in chief? >> well, can't help listening to "taps." moves you each time. i thought president trump did a wonderful speech, salamis, the compassion, the gratitude that he conveyed. the families for them, everything they in memorial day as they are missing their love ones right now. spot on, right message, very inspiring message, and one honoring those who gave the last full measure of devotion for our freedom to have a day off today and spend time with friends and families, like many people are. >> talked about those who have given the ultimate sacrifice and the president got into it in his speech. we had a couple of guest on today talking about it. the 20,000 children all across his children who have had love ones killed in the line of duty. the president and his speech making sure to point out a few of them. >> yeah.
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i cannot even imagine. i lost my dad when i was a kid not from combat. being raised without your father or your mother and knowing that they sacrifice their life for your freedoms. certainly a positive in that. as you can see, some of them are going on to serve in the military which is just extraordinary. there is a cost and a loss that comes with not having that parent through all the critical stages of your life. this cost is very high for those children who every day may be don't even know their parent or are missing them every single day here they are just amazing. it's so great to see them honoring them. christian jacob, what a strong, young child who is very focused on the legacy of his dad. it's pretty powerful. >> that something that struck me. as a member of the military, you can talk about how it's such a huge family. there was a marine lieutenant colonel david greene that he talked about. he was a marine helicopter pilot who lost his life.
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his son followed along in his dad's footsteps as well. >> it's just amazing. look, for those of us who -- we come back wondering why is it that we came back in our other colleagues did not, our other follow warriors did not. we have been at too many services handing flags to those loved ones. the cost is very, very high. but the legacy is there. we want to give honor where honor is due. today is the day to do that. every day they are missing their loved one. >> thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. it was quite remarkable. >> yeah. have a wonderful memorial day. >> as we continue to watch the president here and defense secretary jim mattis, arlington national cemetery on a gorgeous day there in our nation's capitol in washington, d.c., for the ceremony attended by the commander in chief every year. >> the president began his words talking about how this impacts across generation.
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that was truly example by there today as he talked with the seven year old the end and began with the 106-year-old world war ii veteran. amazing. >> we thank you for joining us on this day. a special memorial day the addition of "outnumbered" starts after the break. liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night. hold on dad... liberty did what? yeah, liberty mutual 24-hour roadside assistance helped him to fix his flat so he could get home safely.
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♪ >> putting more pressure on lawmakers on restricting immigration law and an effort to end gang violence around america after a roundtable discussion in new york last week. also doubling down on his harsh description of ms-13 gang members despite backlash from democrats. watch. >> ms-13 lives by the motto, " "kill, rape, and control." i called them animals the other day and i was met with rebuke. they said, "they are people." they aren't people. those are animals. we have to be very -- [applause] very tough. >> lawmakers on capitol hill gravel whether to take another stab at immigration reform, including a dock daca 7th to
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hammer out a way forward. we had the summit at the white house last week, the president broughton two governors from border states to talk about the issue of immigration. what struck me is danica martinez, the governor of new mexico, said we have immigration problems in new mexico, but the issues that happen here affect states throughout the country. that's what the president is trying to get congress to work on. >> congress has never wanted to work on this despite what the configuration is because it's too explosive. i do think it's interesting that really this president has had to threaten to shut down -- by the way, that's not even original material. chuck schumer of new york, he was willing to do it over some of the issues of immigration. the president leading on this issue is really what it's going to take. i don't know if he's willing to compromise with democrats, or what that will look like. but he wants his wall. we have seen recently diane black of tennessee who is chair of the budget committee,
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thinking about how we spend our money, started this order act which can collect public funds to pay for the wall. it's like crowd sourcing for your own backyard. she says the necessities that you can get it quickly, so people can begin to feel what security looks like and is really tangible in their lives. that's important to this debate. when these men and women run on capitol hill again, they have to run against the actual feeling of security. >> the most important thing. every illegal immigrant in this country today is law-abiding should be happening in wall. that their next way to be -- republicans have said for decades, secure the border, then we will deal with who's here. every illegal immigrant in this country should see the wall as this positive, something to help them get their next step to what their status may be. that's the position of the republicans. president trump holds that position. i don't understand the actual
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push against the wall beyond rhetoric. because the ball is moving. a judge decided that they can continue to take, for instance, daca recipients. the ball is moving on things that have not been dealt with. like visa. >> on that point, kennedy, immigrant reform is a big bubble that includes a lot of different areas. the reason it fails every time is because they try to do too much at once. when the ms-13 problem very different to the daca recipient problem, they seem to try to tie everything together. they are completely different and require different, separate issues, and pieces of luggage legislation on the hill. >> that's absolutely right. these things may be incorporated correlated, but when an entire piece of legislation fails, it all falls apart. it's like having your souffle implode and also burning your pork chops at the same time. no one wants that!
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everyone -- you need your meet meat! what happens when it doesn't work? what if this is just a distraction or false sense of security when really we should've taken care of these other things. i think you are absolutely righ right. you have to take care of them almost separately and one thing at a time. i don't think congress has been good at prioritizing what we should do first. >> president trump has every right to be angry at them. no funding in that giant, hideous omnibus spending bill for a new wall. >> should he have vetoed that thing? >> he should have. he alienated his voters when he signed it. i heard more outrage on social media over that. the bigger issue was congress has the power of the purse and they didn't do anything to deprive century cities of money in that bill as well. at the same time, do you know that the quotations in this country, the number of pending
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deportation cases has gone up 25% under president trump? 150,000 cases? there is now a backlog of 700,000 cases in this country. the courts can't handle the number of cases. illegal immigrants are using that to their advantage. >> big issue, that's for sure. americans voted for president trump says they aren't wavering from supporting them despite a host of challenges. even immigration. why they still love him and what could change their minds? we are all used to seeing alec baldwin play president trump on "saturday night live." is it time to put the trump bashing too bad? we will debate. >> i even confessed some crimes i didn't do and i said, what are you going to do, arrest the president! how can you! [laughter] >> i think they get the point. [run dmc's "it's tricky" plays]
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>> still the one? president trump is to his supporters. despite a host of challenges, usa today pulled people who supported the president why they haven't wavered and what could shake the faith and their president for it supporter quoted saying, "i believe our void voices are part of the forgotten part of the america that president trump touched during the election." "giving our military likability and told to wipe the islamic state of iraq and syria off the map and reshaping the generation for a generation. president trump has delivered on my expectations." one supporter also quoted saying "there are a number of things that would make me stop supporting trump. but so far, the main reasons for my dissipating support are his
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incessant, childish tweeting and his travel ban." i'm going to go to you first. people who didn't vote for president trump look at him and say, "this is a man who actually believes in standing by his promises on the campaign trail." people are really dumbfounded by it because no other politician does that. >> it's simple. they don't trust the media. they don't trust us. they don't trust the swamp. president trump does things in such a fashion that is easy to trust what he says. a good example last week, he spoke about the north korean summit and said, he believed that the president of china had may be sabotage that. in that moment, you believed every word he said. he was just thinking it through right there in front of the world. that's that candidness straightforwardness that brings average americans to the polls. >> katie if you go to the list of what he accomplished, it's why you get so incensed about things like the wall, which
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isn't getting done. that was when he did ten polls in campaign. the tax reform, rollback and -- moving economist hate him, but trump doesn't care. >> >> his supporters have always been the base. he even said on the campaign trail, i can do a lot of bad things. but i can clean up. i can shoot someone on fifth avenue. to his credit, i think people who were trump skeptical and still are pretty impressed with the things he's done in terms of keeping his thomases and doing things people have been done before and saying, look, i'm nol the pc culture, everybody on capitol hill calling me because it might affect the way they are keeping their own promises to what they've been their constituents for years in their own campaign. i think people who voted for him or didn't vote for him who are
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right-leaning or at least independence who want to see things getting done, they want to see the vitriol on the left go -- look, you guys saying trump is crazy? you are being crazier. you are pushing more people in his corner by the way you are behaving. >> i was in jerusalem for that recently. on the front day of the "jerusalem post" the the day we officially moved our embassy and unveiled it from tel aviv to jerusalem said, "thomas is made, promises kept" with his face only on the jerusalem post. you know the flag that they put up for the fourth of july and they hang it from streetlights all over america, they had all of that for jerusalem as well, trump: make israel great. those people who may or may not have voted to have dual citizenship. maybe they don't, they have citizens who are here in america. just based on results more than anything else.
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>> it's sort of a predicable uncritical ability. people now know what they are getting from the president. the unperturbed ability is a thing that put a lot of people off, a lot of the people who voted against hillary clinton, some of the people are starting to come around here we are starting to see the president's approval rating pick up because it's true. even if you don't agree with the president, if he's not your guy, there's something refreshing about a politician who has a list of things he wants to do that he talks about on the campaign trail and then obsessively goes after them. it's -- if there's one aspect of his legacy that i hope other politicians adhere to, it is that. if you are going to talk about things, if you're going to make promises -- >> at least try. >> that's a contract with the country when they elect you. do whatever is in your power to accomplish those things, even if you get some pushback. if you know it's right and you believe in it, and people give you the thumbs up to pull the lever, you better do it. >> absolutely.
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>> completely. >> i agree. >> #absolutely on this here! >> amen. >> most of us have seen a whole lot of -- >> am i the only one who sees that guy? >> are you okay? [laughter] >> alec baldwin playing president trump in the latest "saturday night live" spoof of el presidente. bob mueller getting the robert de niro treatment. several media outlets and even jimmy kimmel think so. -- "elitist pieces of liberal propaganda." the media companies west coast editor says, "snl," "you're cold
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opens are terrible, cringeworthy pieces of self-satisfied liberal propaganda that are sometimes so bad, they seem like parodies of himself." this, from xml alum rob schneider who talked to him for the daily news," the fun of "saturday night live," you never knew which way they lean politically. you assume they would lean more left and liberal, but now the cat is out of the bag. they are completely against trump, which i think makes it less interesting. you know the direction the peas is going. rob schneider has gotten a lot of heat for that statement, but he's absolutely right. if you are taking things apart objectively and taking a look at the way comedy is supposed to operate, it's not that. you shouldn't know exactly what the punch line is going to be at the beginning of the sketch. >> people are being shamed away from their convictions and staying away from any type of opinion that may upset someone. people are just tired of that constant pressure over their head. especially conservatives, but people in general.
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i know rob schneider. i know the crew over there. great people. they are funny. they care about the product they make in just giving people an opportunity to break away, laugh, have fun over something silly. "snl" used to have some of that. the jimmy fallon skit is still funny and no politics involved there. it's making fun of us. it's people. that's where the camera should be focused. >> being a connoisseur of comedians even when i was little listening to richard pryor in my bedroom by myself wearing headphones, because he was cursing. [laughter] that's where i learned it. richard pryor when i was 12 years old taught me how to curse. the company used to grow out of i think will ferrell as george w. bush or dana carvey as bush 41. even him playing ross perot, even chevy chase as gerald ford -- >> its not having the same effect on the president that the past the entire dead on of their presidents. >> it was satire.
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the comedy grew out of creativity and not out of hate for an individual. that's why it was so unique and different. even will ferrell mocks george w. bush, but we didn't see it as derived from anger or hatred toward the individual. it was funny! >> george w. bush mocks george w. bush. >> there was a certain amount of buy in. >> you didn't have to go the sides hating each other. right now, it's driven by a real level of vitriol having been parodied by leslie jones recently in the "snl" cold open? there were some funny things about it. i like the fact they have the show and the "outnumbered" logo. good publicity for us. it's about not hating the other side and seeing the humor in that. that's where i think it's lost. i've got friends who written on the show and they say, even for them, they are like, we want to stretch beyond the obvious in the room. that's where they are. that's why it's funny to some people. they write stuff on the obvious
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and it's not equally. >> it would be funnier if they also applied it to the other side. it might bring some levity to the situation of the partisanship in this country and how much vitriol there is between the two parties if they would just treat each other equally. it's also not about portraying politicians. they've been doing that for decades. it's the moral superiority that someone like alec baldwin takes in playing donald trump and essentially calling the people -- >> it's vitriol! >> calling the people who support him stupid. it's about lecturing americans who chose to pull the lever for him, not about putting on a funny show. >> my point is you know alec baldwin hates donald trump. it's not as much fun to watch. you don't want to get beaten over the head by someone of foster's moralizing message you are watching. one of my favorite comedians of all time, don rickles, may he rest in peace. no one greater in the insulting somebody. you knew at the end of the day
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he really loved all these guys. >> exactly. >> he took shots like nobody on the planet but it was hilarious. the guys he was insulting were sitting there with tears in their eye. even ronald reagan! even richer parts at all is forgiven if it's funny. lots of college graduation, they make it quite a wake-up call. whether liberal bias on campus is a growing problem, doesn't help them succeed? we will debate next. ♪ k boost optimum. boost optimum with 5 in 1 advanced nutrition helps support muscle, energy, bone, normal immune function, and vision. boost optimum. be up for life.
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ratio among professors is more than 10-1. the ratio is even higher, nearly 13-1, when to go military colleges are removed from that sample. also, check this out. nearly 40% of these colleges having a registered republican faculty members. at one point -- the rest of them don't have many g.o.p. or conservative professors, not to mention commencement speakers. >> i went to georgetown university in d.c. i am very much concerned of it. i had the benefit of having adjunct professors that left the white house to compete. there are a lot of instances where, you know, military service was all but a negative in in the classroom. i was certainly called out for having my military paid, college paid for, as if that made me some -- little things like that would happen. i was lucky. i went with a group of veterans most of my school there.
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you could see it. i was there during the central plus days, protesting things on campus who couldn't get anybody to show for memorial day, but everybody showed up for her. what did it, it grounded me in my beliefs and how i felt about things but it chilled me you can act from a place of more than a motion to write every paper did not devastate the professor's feelings. >> wow... >> it solidified what you believe them. isn't that the truth, kennedy. college is supposed to be a place where you have a diversity of thought and learning about new things. when it comes to the faculty and the people teaching, they have one point of view. as you just said, you have to tailor your own belief system inside the classroom to make sure that you graduate with a diploma. >> it's some of those ultra-leftists colleges like berkeley where you have a slightly divergent opinion, even if your opinion is pretty far left, you will get shouted down. you will get shouted off of campus. we've seen that time and time again. there are a couple of choices here. one woman talked about this on
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steve helton's show this sunday night, i'm a big advocate for school choice. i don't think parents have enough choice when children are young and parents can encourage their children to go to trade school. and actually earn money. the responsible. be autodidact. educate themselves. you can have a wonderful trade school experience. they can't make a bunch more money and not have student debt. the other thing is if you're a alumni member and you feel that your school has gone the way leftward, stop giving the money! that's what will really make a difference because they higher massive amounts of administrators and abuse the money. >> in terms of the question on the other and mike, when you go to college, you go to college at the end of the day, that you hae a skill set. the big question now is when you have one viewpoint across the board teaching in colleges, what are those degrees worth? on the other end, with a record number of student debt in the trillions of dollars, is a return investment worth it based on what they are actually
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teaching? >> i think it will be worth it if you can get everybody on campus, you know, to accept dissenting voices. it's really important. how can you have a society that only likes what it likes and vilifies the other side? advocacy for different groups in this country, like the #metoo movement. where you practice these skills? on college campus, where it supposed to be open with the perception and flow of thought? >> my final thought is, i'm surprised anybody identifies as a republican and they would be able to get a job at any of these schools. they are paying a quarter to a half a million dollars to educate their kids and which pronouns to use rather than teach them science and math skills to get them a job at the end of the day. >> amen. >> we aren't done yet, i've still got the mic. >> go for it! >> let's move on to this talk it
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on the topic. one college campus appears to be taking it to a whole new level. texas tech is not encouraging students to seek counseling to help deal with the "current political climate." the student counseling centers website warning that the world can feel "complex, even scary." it's now offering students tips with article titled, "101 ways to take care of yourself when the world feels overwhelming." curriculums or white americans o educate themselves on race and racism. self-care in times of -- this came about as a result of student's concerns and a saying in part that the center is just trying to help and "process societal issues." joey, to you on this, the snowflakes at texas tech and around the country. >> i hope the world feels
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complex. that's where your survival skills come in. that's how we should live our life. we should live our life knowing it's not easy out there, a chance to rise up to that challenge and take care of people we love, be a contributing part of society. when i lost my legs, the most important thing to me what to get out of the hospital bed, not to be paid to be in it. i work every day now, because that's likely to to to to be a contributing member of this world and that's what we should teach these kids, not this ideaf being accepting. put yourself in a place where they have to except you. don't go and ask the world to change for you. go and make the world change for you. be a part of what we are doing here. i get so upset about this because i know what it's like to be born poor, in a trailer, things like this, try to pull myself out. >> i hope you tell that story to young people across the country. i know we reported on this recently with school shootings. you are hearing about kids who don't feel in mental health situations like they have an
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answer, an option, whatever it is. to watch you and listen to you talk about where your strength comes from? you can get so much oxygen from just choking right now on what to do. it's a sad situation with that generation. you make a difference. >> kids dealing with cancer, losing a parent, i hope to throw shade on millennials, because there are millennials -- vehicle we are lifting them up. sharing your story. >> we need to let them be leaders. >> amen to that. >> can they survive in the wild? are my children prepared if society fell apart and they have to be -- vehicle stop with the hand motions and micro objections! >> you are triggering me. >> very comfortable right now. the unofficial kickoff with lots of burgers and hotdogs and beers. it's much more than that. today, we remember and reflect on the service of ultimate
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>> let's talk a little bit about memorial day. it's not just an excuse to take a long weekend and loafed around eating grilled meat. though that does sound delicious. it's a day for remembrance for those americans who have died in service of our nation for the first memorial day was held may may 30th, 1868, to honor the civil war dead. originally known as declaration day. memorial day was observed for more than 100 years before it was moved to the final or last monday in may, that happened in 1971. a national moment of your members will be at 3:00 p.m. local. some pretty sobering numbers to consider it more than 1 million americans have made the ultimate sacrifice in wars and conflicts throughout our nation's history. one of those people who has really been there for our country and loves it so much is joey jones. with us today.
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thank you, again. we set it off the top. we appreciate your service. what are your thoughts on this day? figure this country has been here for me. even more lucky to have given my time or some of my body to protect and service and all of you, i get to serve this country with. it's important. we hit rhetoric so hard in this country. memorial day is the day for those who have fallen in service. veterans day is when we give a pat on the back to those who deserve. it's about me, my friends, i have 24 on a risk from a fight that haven't made there yet. the idea -- to love people you don't even know, i tell kids, true patriotism is loving the people you pass on the street before you even meet them. just because we are in this together. we are in a country that has every subcategory you can think of. we are trying this together, figuring it out together, they were there for each other for memorial day, you remember what it took to get to that point. memorial day is when you remember, there's always someone that wants to tear that down and take that away.
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there are men and women, millennials that are willing to give up their life and everything about it just so we can continue this debate on what political topic or you will have burgers with our families. i do not believe in guilt patriotism. go eat your hamburgers would go enjoy memorial day. but take a moment to understand why you are able to do that. >> every single year, i live in washington, d.c., now. i try to make it over to arlington cemetery to pay some respects to -- i have a lot of friends who did. they lost friends there. they go to visit. karen vaughn has become a good friend of mine. she is a friend of the fox news channel. her son eric carson vaughn was killed in afghanistan on a helicopter. we try and visit his grave every single year. thank you to everyone who served beer and more importantly to those who made the ultimate sacrifice that we live in a country that is free and it's hard to hold it together when you talk about it. thank you for everything you have done and your friends that
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they have done. >> we are the land of the free. >> amen. >> my grandfather was a world war i veteran. he would research in three counties in indiana. there wasn't a monday, it wasn't a official federal holiday. he would put flags on every single one, the graves of the veterans in three counties in indiana. my dad would load up, drive all around. it was on some work. >> that's amazing. >> beautiful. >> we hope you and your family have a wonderful memorial day. remember the sacrifices that were made for us to be here for you. "outnumbered" is back tomorrow at noon eastern. . liberty mutual saved us
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tripadvisor. visit tripadvisor.com ♪ we welcome you to this memorial day edition of "happening now." good to be with you. i'm connel mcshane. >> hello. president trump is paying tribute to america's fallen heroes earlier, laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier at arlington national cemetery. >> we are gathered here on the sacred soil of arlington national cemetery national cemetery to honor the lives and the deeds of america's greatest heroes. the men and women who laid down their lives

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