typical day. we will be back here tonight at 7:00 with lots more news on "the story." now to d.c. as tucker carlson takes over. have a good night. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: well, good evening. welcome to tucker carlson tonight. you may have heard that abc cancelled its most popular scripted show yesterday after a lead actor sent out a series of bizarre tweets which she later blamed on sleeping pills. you've read about it but there is at least one upside to the roseanne story. the left is on the record opposing racism. attacking people on the basis of their race, they are telling us, and of course they are absolutely right about that. let's hope this conversation continues and progresses. liberals may finally concede that discrimination based on skin color really is wrong whether it's in hiring or promotions or government contracting or school admission. they admit that, that would be real progress. it's not happening yet

though. for now american liberals are still living in that strange irony-free world where it's possible to denounce racism even as you commit it. that's the same world al gore occupies when he flies private success jets to global warming conferences. it's the place where attorneys general can yell at you about domestic violence even as they beat up their girlfriend. it's hypocrisy land. it's where liberals live. last night, for example, msnbc held a town hall meeting dedicated to fighting racism. guess who they invited to lecture america on the topic? you guessed it, racists. the special was literally co-hosted by al sharpton, remember him? he is the guy who ridiculed jews in new york as, quote. diamond dealers. he is the one who denounced a jewish store owner as a white interloper. that inst instigated a racial massacre in which 8 people were murdered. also on stage last night was a guy called tim wise. wise describes himself as professional antiracism activists which ought to be

a tipoff that he himself is a racist, which obviously he is. here is wise using msnbc's platform to make ugly generalizations based on skin color. >> white america has been raised to belief a, the police is always the good guys and frankly that black lives matter less than white comfort. what you are saying is my discomfort with you right now is worth more than the potential that your life could be snuffed in 10 minutes. >> tucker: isn't that slander against an entire racial category? oh, yes, it is. but let's say you want even more nasty racial stereotyping. msnbc is the channel for you. they've got it here is tim wise again. keep in mind, this is what liberals are now claiming is the opposite of racism. >> the gentrifiers of today. their parents or grandparents ran away from the city to get away from black and brown folk. and now their children and their grandchildren are saying, oh, the suburbs,

there is so many olive gardens i can go to. i need to go back to the city and get my life in the city. when i do that i need to have my hot yoga studio and by porter studio and my stuff represented. if you intrude on that, i will then call the police. >> tucker: are you taking notes on this? are you getting this? they are telling you on msnbc that because certain people have the same skin color they all have the same dumb attitudes. they like the same crappy restaurant. they spend their free time pursuing the same frivolous who areys. they are by the way every one of them immoral. can you tell by the way they look. that's the official position of the personal left, the same people currently accusing you of racism. huh? christopher harris executive director of unhyphenated america and he joins us tonight. mr. harris, what do you make of that, watching that? >> tucker, there is a lot of things going on in the world right now that came to my mind, for example, what's happening in venezuela. when tim was talking about people trying to gentrify

areas. well, if you look in venezuela right now, there are people fleeing a terrible geopolitical socioeconomic issue. and they are going to trinidad. >> tucker: right. >> they have influx in trinidad of venezuelans. and trinidad is trying to implement rules to kind of push some of them out. now, most people don't know there is a lot of black people in venezuela. they don't all look like hugo chavez. in fact, south america has one of the largest percentages, over 50% of the slaves taken from africa were brought to south america to places like brazil and venezuela and places like that. here it is you have people who are black who don't want other people who are black flooding into their country. >> tucker: maybe it's more an economic issue and i think, by the way, there are fair questions to raise about radical demographic change for sure. it upsets people. and i understand that. but, to pretend that it's all about race and that one race is worse than another race, isn't that the definition of racism? >> absolutely. tim wise is going to be able to pay his rent this month

because he is a racial pimp. that's what he is that's what he does. he travels around the country going to colleges, telling young white men and young white woman that you are a racist and that you are a benefit of white privilege and they go on and they tell their parents how terrible they are because a guy named tim wise came to my college and told me i have white privilege. and essentially what tim is doing, he is assuming a privilege that, quite frankly, i don't acknowledge that he has. i have zero sense of inferiority. that's one of those things that someone like tim wants me to believe. in fact,. >> tucker: you think he wants you to have a sense of inferiority? >> absolutely. president bush talked about it he said it's the soft bigotry of low expectation. >> tucker: yeah. >> that's what's happening around the world and what's happening in america. they are constantly trying to tell young black men and young black women have you no chance in america because of your pigmentation. no one wants to talk about the fact that different demographics. all black people are not african-americans. my wife is actually her

parents are from panama. her parents came here legally with nothing. they were able to climb the socioeconomic ladder. both of them obtained their degrees. both their daughters obtained their degrees. yet, there are people who are, i guess some would call me an american. i don't answer to that term. i'm an american black person. obviously can you tell by my pigmentation i'm black. but there is lots of people even in my extended family who have not attained what some of my in-laws have obtained regardless of the color of their skin. but tim wise would you have to believe that simply because of the color of your skin you can't be successful in america. and do you know what? president trump, god bless him, what he is doing with the economy right now, it's helping black people. >> tucker: where do you think a country winds up where the official position is that the races are different, some are more moral than others. and basically, they should hate each other? that is the message that a lot of our elites are fois

ting on the rest of us. they make their money by tearing people apart. unhyphenated america what is unhyphenated america? it's what it sounds like. if you believe if you embrace if you promote the principles of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. then you are an american. and there is no need for any prefix or suffix. you are just an american. that's what needs to be preached and taught on our college campuses instead of having the tim wises and al sharptons. >> tucker: when i was a kid. i'm 49. not that old. liberals used to say what you are saying. they don't anymore. thank you, that was really nice to hear from you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: i appreciate it the media were in, of course, consensus, agreement, on who is responsible for roseanne barr's career-ending tweets. watch. >> we have a president who was elected after trafficking in barely,

barely cloaked racial animus. a lot of other people in many ways mimics this kind of language. >> this kind of stuff is a direct by product of how donald trump behaves and things he has said. >> to that point. >> things he does not condemn. >> we have to stop pretending that this president has nothing to do with it. that he is not emboldening racists and racism and giving them a platform and making it okay. >> tucker: richard good stein lawyers who advised both of hillary clinton's campaigns joins us tonight. richard, i don't begrudge any political party or its surrogates in the media an opportunity to grab an advantage when you see one. on the subject of tweets, which no normal person would defend. they're awful. why the impulse to immediately make it a partisan political issue when there is a human message in this conversation which is don't attack people on the basis of their race. like it's that simple. why the impulse to make it partisan? >> certainly what roseanne barr did was pathetic not just to say it but to blame

it on ambien. she also said it was memorial day. it was -- and this is somebody who had said the exact same thing about susan rice. who had basically defended the whole -- >> tucker: you don't need to convince me the tweet was bad. i'm there already. >> actually there are people i suspect who actually are kind of joining to her defense. right? oh, this is somehow her first amendment rights are being infringed. nonsense. >> tucker: what i'm saying, look, for most of my adult life the senior democrat in the united states senate was a former clan recruiter. okay? robert byrd. a lot of things named after robert byrd. i'm not even attacking robert byrd. he apologized. but let's get a little proportion here. the outrage is selective. i'm not defending the roseanne crap, but i also think when people are jumping up and down actually trump did this, it's purely political. let's be honest. >> actually i think that people who don't subscribe to your view believe the following. donald trump has given license to people by saying they are good nazis by

mocking handicap people. by basically, you know. >> tucker: mocking handy cap people. >> remember he went like this by "new york times" reporter. >> tucker: was he mocking all handicapped people. >> it was that guy. it was pathetic. the list is on and on. the fact of the matter is though, when donald trump does that and people say well, he won, so his staff can go well i can mimic people and make fun of john mccain who is dying. that's the problem. then people who are supporters think at his rallies people who cover his rallies say these people were lovely and then the rally would start and they would say the most anti-semitic. >> tucker: i have been on television for 1020 years the nastiness of hate mail i receive remains constant. i didn't blame obama for the hate mail and death threats i got. i didn't blame obama. this is a larger question. part of the question is, do people who are engaging in

racism, like al sharpton, have the right to lecture the rest of us about racism? do they? is al sharpton the spokesman you want against racism, really? >> no, he is not. i agree with you. but i do think it is undeniable that the fact that donald trump spews what he did on the campaign trail and as president to talk about good nazis is something that sends a signal like i basically am drawing sucker from these people. and it's why he tweets about every stupid thing under the sun. nfl players kneeling. can't -- >> tucker: draw me in defending every dumb trump tweet which i'm not. we are against racism, i hope. i certainly am. we do a lot of shows on it. >> of course. >> tucker: is it wrong to disim nate againsdiscriminate ae on skin color. >> that's given that's affirmative action. >> no i'm talking about racism. is it wrong to discriminate against people based on skin color? if it's not, then why do we

care about roseanne said. if there is. you shouldn't base people on the basis of characteristics, do you agree with that. >> i think roseanne barr and people like her to ho talk about black people as apes is wrong. >> tucker: i agree. it's disgusting. is it wrong to discriminate against someone on the basis of a skin color, to hold them back on the basis of their skin. it's a really simple answer. can you answer it. >> of course, but, you are acting like somehow slavery didn't happen. >> tucker: i didn't say that. >> that's the intimation you are getting at. >> tucker: please. >> that's what you are getting at. >> tucker: that's not what i'm getting at. i am a straightforward person. don't attack me. i'm asking you about a principle. which is it wrong to hurt people, to hold them back, deny them things they would otherwise get because of their race? it's a really simple question yes or no. >> i agree that people should not be discriminated against. >> tucker: no. please answer the question. >> they should not be discriminated against their face. but we don't have a colorblind society. eric holder and other black cabinet officials have trouble hailing a taxicab.

>> tucker: by the way, i'm not denying that. i'm merely saying is it wrong to practice racism against people? >> of course. >> tucker: it. >> yes. >> tucker: you would say it's totally wrong to say to a child because of your skin color we're holding you back? there is a massive lawsuit against harvard right now by asian students who are basically proven that harvard didn't let them in because of their race. >> right. >> tucker: is that okay with you. >> jews used to be subjected to the exact same thing. >> tucker: with t. was wrong. liberals support it now. >> right. >> tucker: those people lecture me about racism. >> virtue in diversity. >> tucker: virtue new discrimination? >> call it what you want tuck tongue i'm calling it what it is. we both agreed that penalizing people on the basis of their race is immoral you agreed with that happening right now full support of liberals same ones lecturing us about racism it's too much. >> i'm saying there is a quilt involved and, yes, discriminating against people on the basis of their skin color is wrong.

but people were held back for hundreds of years. >> tucker: i agree. >> to basically act like that didn't happen. >> tucker: i'm not acting like it didn't happen. i think it's the central sin of america. i have think it's our original sin. i think it's terrible. but, i don't think that racism is okay. and liberals do. and i just want to be clear and i want our viewers to understand that is the official position of the democratic party is that hurting people on the basis of their race is a-okay? >> no. the position of the democratic parties is that we have to take cognizance of the fact that what happened for 200 years and if we act like it didn't happen, and that somehow or another. >> tucker: i'm not suggesting that no. >> act like skin color doesn't matter. that signature noriega the obvious. >> tucker: the chinese kid who arrived here 20 minutes ago. >> right. >> tucker: suffers from that because of his race. >> no. >> that's okay, the democrats. >> no. >> tucker: same ones us lectures antiracism summit.

we found a amazing series of blog posts that have received no media attention. the person who wrote them looks in retrospect like a prophet calling for america first policies at least a decade before president trump entered politics. in the days after hurricane katrina. the blogger suggested border paid americans ought to rebuild the city of new orleans. in 2006, the blogger said this about her television viewing habits, quote: i love lou dobbs. his show has become required viewing around my house. the viewer agreed with lou dobbs on immigration. flying the flag on u.s. soil prescribes me as presumptuous and insulting to the u.s. illegal immigrants in this country are not coming here because they embrace our ideals they come for our money when they send back to mexico. she made a pretty clear headed evidence base for that in a 2005 post.

the same blogger attacked democrat howard dean for using racist antiwhite rhetoric in a speech. quote. tagging the other side, the republicans, as the party of whitey may sound just like the way to get these minority voters back but it so misses the point. the blogger later scolded howard dean for insulting christians and white american. who wrote all of that? give you time guess but you would never guess. believe it or not, it seemed like the author of what i just read was joy reid. the now totally dogmatic race-baiting msnbc weekend host. according to the internet archive, joy reid apparently posted those views on a now defunct black hawk blog a decade ago. msnbc would fire her right away for the crime of independent thinking. we repeatedly contacted joy reid's lawyer at msnbc for comment and no one responded to us. it's possible reid will claim tweets were written by hacker. last time she got caught with blog posts.

maybe she will do the unexpected and admit that there was a time before the revolution currently in progress when she was actually kind of smart and reasonable. we await her explanation. ♪ >> tucker: billionaire george soros says europe's path to survival is open borders and higher debt level. nigel farage ways in on that ideasi next. spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy. everything. and that 2% cash back adds up to thousands of dollars each year... so i can keep growing my business in big leaps! what's in your wallet? you wouldn't accept from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances.

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♪ ♪ >> tucker: progressivism not just in this country but around the world is increasingly coming to resemble not just a religion but a cult bent on suicide.

not overstating that. george soros said the european countries ought to cope with migrant crises the one that's helped encourage by keeping their borders open to new arrivals and then taking on tens of billions of dollars in new debt, as if they don't have enough. to fund aid to developing countries. meanwhile in oakland, california, the first congressional church is urging its members not to call the police ever no matter what the problem is for the stated purpose of protecting nonwhites in the congregation from police violence. nigel farage once led the u.k. independence party and he joins us now. nigel, thanks for coming on. i wanted to ask you this. you don't have international. i think these impulses are shared by a lot of the people in charge of the world. the west. >> yeah. >> one of the driving impulses seems to be mackism, the idea that you are not allowed to defend yourself seems to undergird

a lot of what we are seeing. have you noticed this? >> yes. not just yourself but the whole shape of society. george soros' open society foundation, which he, of course, has poured billions of dollars into, i mean, this is the biggest political campaign organization in the world, he wants to break down the fundamental values of our society. in the case of europe, he doesn't want europe to be based on christianity. now, all of, this whether it's soros or some of those very strange people in california, all of this is based on some kind of self-loathing. some sort of guilt trip about the past and in soros' case it's a guilt trip, of course, about america's -- about, sorry, germany's war time actions. the way the jews were tweeted. in america how the indians were treated. it's all based on guilt but and not based on reality. i have to say in the case of

soros. the brussels will be furious with his timing. we have italy in revolt because the new government or the attempted new government wants to get rid of half a million illegal migrants and soros appears to be going ever so slightly mad. >> tucker: right. i would say that there are a lot of sins that we collectively have committed as a society. as a civilization. obviously. but i sort of wonder can we continue if those sins so shake our faith in ourselves that we refuse to defend ourselves? i mean, the church in oakland that we described in the intro is encouraging its members not to call police even when they feel they need the police. if that's not a suicidal impulse, what is it? >> oh, no. i mean, look, you know, there are many european cities now where the total failure of our political class to defend our judeo-christian culture, which actually underpins the whole society is in many ways what's opened the doors

to islamic extremism. we are engaged in some very, very dangerous policies here. the good news though is that voters are rebelling. brexit, trump. the recent italian elections. the victor band in hung hungary. people that pay their taxes and go to work they want none of this. >> tucker: i wonder why the eastern europeans don't seem quite as guilty as the west? is it because they suffered for so long under the soviets? >> oh, look. they suffered in many cases under nasa i naziism and under e soviets. not until 1990 that these countries were actually free western democracies. and they do. i think it's important to realize that the church plays a much bigger role in society, i poland and hungary.

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particular attacks on the president. dershowitz has sharp solid criticized the mueller investigation. he says justifying attacks on civil liberties that all of us. for saying that he says his liberal friends don't invite him to dinner parties anymore and some bark at him. professor dershowitz joins us tonight. professor, thanks for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: you have taken unpopular, really unpopular positions, some that i disagree with over the years. and you haven't had this problem. >> no. >> tucker: what's the difference? >> well, it's trump. trump changes everything. >> just yesterday on martha's vineyard there was a dinner party. my wife and i was not invited. apparently i was the subject of the conversation. people asking what's happened to dershowitz? why has he turned to the right? and i wish i had been there because i you would have pointed my finger at my liberal friends and said it's all your fault. if had you worked this hard for the election of hillary clinton as i did and if she had been elected and they were trying to impeach or

charge her, i would be saying exactly the same things in defense of her rights. as i did in the defense of the rights of bill clinton and also in defense of the rights of richard nixon going back to the 1970s. i have not changed. i have not changed. they have. >> tucker: just as a reference point, you were involved in the defense for a little while anyway of o.j. simpson accused of killing to two people with a knife. when you went to martha's vineyard during those years in 1995 and 1996, did people attack you at dinner parties for that. >> a little bit. not as much as this. never been like this. this time it includes some of my relatives. as i said the only thing that hurts me is that up until now people who are my relatives would tell me oh, people come over to you and said you are related to alan dershowitz, wow now they said you are related to alan dershowitz how can you justify what he has been saying about donald trump? so it effects my relatives. that hurts me.

i have a thick skin. i have been doing this for years. i have developed the thickest skin imaginable. by the way, a lot of the tweets that i get hundreds of tweets and messages a lot of them, not only focus on what i have been saying about the constitutional rights of donald trump, but they related to me being pro-israel and jewish and making anti-semitic thing out of it as well. and so, you know, there is not only some -- too much antisemitism on the right, there is quite a bit on it on the anti-trump as well. >> tucker: i have noticed that you have been at this, i wouldn't want to guess half a century. forefront of the civil libertarian left. has that group shrunk? is it not just trump but maybe the left is less interested in traditional civil liberties than it used to be? >> shrunk, there are no civil libertarians left on the left. certainly not the american civil liberties union. they were the ones who said that the raid on cohen's

office taking his lawyer client files was a good thing. not even suggesting what i suggested and ultimately adopted by the judge to have a judicial monitor going through. all of these emails. the aclu is dead in the water when it comes to defending the civil liberties of people who they don't agree with. and that's just awful. there are still some civil libertarians left. but you can count them on one hand. everybody has to pass the shoe on the other foot test. if the shoe were on the other foot, would you be taking the same position you are taking today? i passed that test. there are some others who passed that test. but too many both on the right and on the left don't pass the test. >> tucker: i agree. with hillary clinton had been elected a lot of the people supporting me and definiting me on the right would be attacking me for criticizing the prosecution or the impeachment of hillary clinton. we need neutral principles. we need standards of constitutionality that are apolitical and i refuse to allow partisan politics to preempt my views on the

constitution which have stayed the same for 50 years. >> tucker: amen. when the fbi broke into the g mail account of that creepy governor eliot spitzer i defended that creepy governor eliot spitzer. >> he is my friend. he was my research assistant. i like elliott. >> tucker: totally wrong what they did to him. professor, thank you. great to see you. >> likewise. >> tucker: well, american companies tend to be progressive and defiant in the united states. but when it comes to dealing with china's autocrats, they are weak and submissive, amazingly so. latest installment of our series on china is after the break. ♪ ♪

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warming. up for any bathroom rule can you think it as long as it sounds modern. classic cool moms eager to show off liberal minds. liberalism ends at the water's edge. when it comes to china our greatest rival american elites bow deeply totaled derly fascists to run that country. when the chinese say jump our ruling class has only one question how high? consider gap the proudly liberal clothing outfit. gap pulled a t-shirt worldwide because it featured outline of china. the image did not include taiwan or group of obscure islands in south china sea. gap immediately destroyed the t-shirts. of the company issued a grabble ling press release. respect the territory of china. failed to reflect the correct map of china. in other words, i'm sorry for being naughty most honorable sir. gap prom misted it would never happen again. that's one of many examples. in january, marriott apologized for listing tibet, taiwan and hong kong

on email questionnaire. marriott fired an employee who liked to tweet about it. marriott's policy to china's dictator says it all quote some associates do not understand or take seriously enough the sovereignty and territorial integrity of china offending china is now a fireable offense in this country. american express, city bank, goldman sachs they all agree. those companies have all changed online content to elimination suggestions that taiwan and china are separate countries even though of course they are separate countries. chinese insist american companies lie about that so they do. hollywood has been doing it for years. movie studios have been obedient for china's rulers 40s more ha decade. ask richard gear the actor. he has trouble getting work because views on di tibet offend chinese officials. the movie dr. strange producers cast a white woman in the role of a tibet continue character. why did they do that? doesn't sound lining the diversity doctrine at work.

why? screen writer ethic tibet tan would make china mad. changed the bad guy from china to north korea. why? you know because he didn't want to offend beijing. how eager are american elites to do the bidding of their chinese masters? ask yourself this. whatever happened to the dalai lama. remember him? he used to be a hero to americans. especially american liberals. you never hear his name anymore. china government doesn't like him. under pressure from the chinese government his appearances by the dalai lama have been cancelled around the world including shamefully in this country. the dalai lama may be a great moral leader but china pays the bills. frank wolf is a rare former member of congress who has been sounding the alarm on china for a very long time and he joins us now. congressman, i'm grateful to have you. you really are one of the very few former members of congress who is pointing out the human rights abuses in china and is willing to say what is true, which is they are bullying us. why is that?

why aren't more saying it? >> i don't know, tucker. you are right. 142 did i betian monks poured kerosene on bodies and set their bodies aflame. thousands of children being taken away to detention camps. >> tucker: right now. >> right now. >> tucker: muslims are being rounded up. >> thousands. many, many, many thousands in detention camp. almost like stalinist camps and catholic bishops missin missing. holy communion from bishop as you he has never been seen again. protestant pastors are being arrested. it is as bad today as it has ever been since mao. richard gere will never make another movie. anc has been sold to the chinese. other studios have been sold. they censor you and censor you say if you run that richard gere will never be a n. a major movie. >> tucker: without naming

names this is a very small city and have you been here a long time looking out across the city you know a lot of lobbyists a lot served in congress. what percentage would you say are on the payroll are china. >> i will say some names. one of the bigger names in town squires pat and bogs. they represent the chinese government. they also represent bashir the indicted war criminal from sudan who has been indicted for genocide. squire, boggs. >> tucker: would you say many different lobbying outfit and firms in washington take money from the chinese interests? >> yes, they do. what is interesting, during the 1980s when i got elected when ronald reagan was here. no company, no pr firm. no law firm would have ever represented the soviet union. now so many are representing, squires, patton boggs to represent beshear, the president of sudan who is an indicted war criminal for genocide. what took place in darfur. the standards in this town have totally changed.

>> tucker: do you think that may be connected to the fact that almost you hear a lot about russia but you never hear anything about china's human rights abuses. do you think they are connected? >> the human rights abuses and lack of religious freedom is worse today in china than it's been since the days of mao. don't forget president xi has now appointed himself president for life it is terrible. that's why i can't understand. the very fact that thousands of muslim kids are being taken away. i had a muslim woman come by my office about two months ago. 35 of her grand children have been taken and put in these detention camps. i urge you to google. >> tucker: i'm going to. you just convinced me next week we are going to do a segment on chinese human rights abuses. you would think american liberals would care but they don't. i appreciate you coming on. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: british authorities have arrested tommy for abuse. not the first time it's happened in great britain.

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♪ ♪ >> tucker: america's most cherished right, the freedom of religion, the freedom of speech and freedom of press all of those had their roots in great britain but in great britain itself those rights are dying out. tommrob son. one of his chief causes racing awareness of sexual abuse committed by immigrants mostly from the islamic world. those crimes are ones that local authorities have ignored in order to avoid being called big gouted. last year robson attempted to cover a gang rape trial involving several muslim men in can't berry for that he was arrested and given a

jail sentence and told not to cover any further trials. he performed a live stream outside a sexual abuse grooming tried trials in leads in a free country, of course, anybody ought to be able to say what they think on a public street. britain is not a free country anymore. so in a matter of hours, robinson was arrested, tried and convicted and sentenced to 13 months in jail. that was fine, by the way, with most members of the press there and here. the further judge further barred the british media from reporting on robinson's imprisonment too. that ban was only lifted yesterday four days after he went behind bars. and that too was fine with most journalists in great britain and here. they said virtually almost nothing about it amazingly. katie hopkins was s. a columnist. we talked to her about this earlier. katie, am i misstating this? it sounds and i know the pretext was he was interfering with jurors. he was speaking his views on a public street when he was arrested and convicted immediately and sentenced to over a year in prison. am i mischaracterizing that? >> you are not at all.

that's exactly what happened. he was outside the courts he was reporting on the trial of a grooming gang as i would call it, a rape squad. it's a causes a you rightly say that he has believed in for so many years. and he is one of those people who has been calling this out relentlessly, despite all of the slurs that are made against him. and, yet, within five hours he was arrested. he was tried, and he was sent to prison for 13 months. and none of us are allowed to you talk about it, write about it, mention it because there was also a ban on any of the media speaking about it. >> tucker: that's the part i don't understand. >> these are very dark times in the u.k. very curious feeling in the country at the moment. i would say the country is on a knife edge. there is a real sense now that we are against our own government, that the establishment is working against us and in order to cleanse voices, it doesn't like, it will put them

inside for as long as it needs to to shut them up. >> tucker: that's horrifying. i will be honest anything about tommy robinson. i don't care. i don't know what he believes. it doesn't matter. he was saying what he thinks to the public. >> take that tucker. i don't know tommy, either. i'm not a colleague of his. i don't work with him. many people say he is an idiot. and in some ways i concur. >> tucker: so what? >> he has been told not to report at these trials and yet he is still there reporting. he didn't go with his lawyer or slither. he knew he was going to get into trouble. but, then, i say to myself, even if you don't like the guy, even if you don't know the guy, surely there is some fundamental principles like where was the swift justice for the victims of the grooming gangs? where was the swift justice for the 11-year-olds that were raped. if we can get typicall tommy in prison in five hours, where was the swift justice for the men and the victims.

whatever you think of tommy, whether you love him, hate him or don't know him, throwing him in a prison when he repeatedly calls out rape squads, grooming gangs, that a death sentence for tommy robinson. and we may criticize our government may criticize the russians like for getting rid of spies they no longer want in our country, but, our government knows if they put tommy robinson inside as they have done and if he is put on an open wing, he will not survive his time inside i don't see how we are any different from the russian if this is how we are going to cleanse people who speak out against the establishment. these are dark times. >> tucker: where are the media in this? so, again, you don't have to like this guy or know anything about him to understand what's at stake here which is freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of the press. why would media outlets in great britain go along with this gag order? why don't they defy it? go ahead and arrest us all?

if this isn't a civil rights issue, then what is a civil rights issue. >> this is where we divide, tucker, into right and wrong, good and bad. and i have to say i feel like majority mainstream media right now in the u.k. is on the side of the bad. it is more important for them to be seen as multicultural and accepting. and welcoming to our muslim colleagues and our friends. than it is to stand up for what we know is right. so it suits them much better to say well, no, tommy robinson is an idiot. he was told not to be there at the court. he was still there at the court. and the law in every sense justified to throw him inside. they are celebrating just as they are celebrating with roseanne. actually, what we have to ask ourselves is what happened to freedom of speech in the u.k. i firmly believe we no longer have freedom of speech in the u.k. i believe tommy robinson will be killed inside the prison. it will be establishment that have blood on their hands.

>> tucker: everybody watching this should be horrified. this is a threat not only to your rights, but to the rights of every american. our rights derive from the british system. this may be a glimpse into our future and we should fight back as hard as we can thank you very much, katie hopkins for that. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: well, people on cable tv have been howling about threats to democracy for a couple of years now. but, strangely, they are oddly silent about what just happened in europe like about 10 minutes ago. we will tell you what it is, next. ♪ i'm up for that. eliquis. eliquis is proven to reduce stroke risk better than warfarin. plus has significantly less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis is fda-approved and has both. so what's next? seeing these guys. don't stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke.

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