>> you know, tomorrow the president gets the letter from kim jong-un. and it is presented by the number two north korea official and what is it in. we'll know then. "the five" now. >> dana: hello everyone. i am dana along with janet and greg and jesse and kim guilfoyle. we are live in new york city. it is a week full of outrageous and over the hill comments for roseanne and her show. and >> if ivanka trump chose to have the most oblivious tweet. that is a beautiful photo of you

and your child. one mother to another. do something about your dad's immigration practice you [bleep]. he listens to you. put on something tight and low cut and tell your [bleep] and tell him it was an obama thing and see how it goes. >> dana: the white house said the comments were vile and vicious and she responded she crossed the line. but michael moore called it a brilliant rant and sally fields is showing support with a vulgar tweet of her own. and cathy griffin going after sarah sanders. >> the president pointed to the media saying horrible things about the president and no body addresses it. where was the apology for kathy griffin going on a profane rant of the president on the view

after a photo of her holding the president's head. >> don't call for me and for f- sake take a cold reading class and maybe you will not stumble so much and there is heavy metal band, punk band. and that was dropped from the music festival for joking about the victims of the las vegas shooting. [inaudible] >> that at least they were country fans. >> dana: so it's thursday and tgif tomorrow and quite a week for all of these kinds of things. greg, i will turn it over to you and bring it back to earth. what is going on? >> greg: it feels like we are on

an outrage super highway and driven by emotion that creates moments and people say thing and in those moments it is an opportunity for scalps, right? and then if i don't like your politics, i will get your sca l, vice versa and companies fire people and suspend and they see the pitchforks amassing as a mob. but here is the thing, you know, samantha bee apologized and i believe you should accept an apology even though no one will return the favor to me. >> geraldo: i apologize. >> greg: people are coming after you and waiting for you to slip up at any moment and there are organizations that are paid millions that have sponsors that wait for us to screw up so they

can go after your advertisers and livelihood and career. but we don't do that. i would not say that to samantha bee. she apologized and that is fine. but i know that there is an industry of knives waiting for all of us. we have to do it back to them and it was a mutually assured destruction. i don't want to do that. why don't you stop that. >> you mean all of us. people are paid to monitor fox new and wait for to you say something. >> geraldo: my goodness, greg, the c- words the equivalent of the word. it is disgusting and you are talking about looking for a person to slip up. this was not a slip up. it was a assault on president trump. >> greg: you are saying, i am willing to accept the apology

even though no one would accept ours. >> dana: i would say the way we are all raised that is the right thing to do. >> geraldo: accept the apology. >> dana: when roseanne barr her tweet and apology and said i was on ambien and tried to blame that. this was something, i don't know if samantha bee intended or wrote in the script the c- word. >> geraldo: it sounded like it was scripted. the crowd loved it. >> dana: is that why people do this? >> geraldo: greg suggested before the show maybe she pre-meditated this because her ratings were lagging. i asked about her ratings. to me, this is it a larger problem, and particularly about ivanka, i think that to attack

ivanka for her father is unfair. remember your tenure in the white house, the kids. this is not a kid. this is a fully mature woman and entrepreneur. >> dana: just working in the white house. >> geraldo: for no pay as her husband is. they are brilliant and most underestimated in washington and easy marks for people like samantha bee to be snotty and attack and try to tear down. and i think that this was an absolutely pre-meditated and i buy in greg's point partially it was pre-meditated because of the ratings and look at me, look at me. and number two, to use this vicious. i mean the c word. it is like roseanne. some places you just can't go anywhere. we have evolved past that.

>> dana: there were quick decisive circumstances for roseanne and it doesn't look like it will be for samantha bee. >> jesse: no, the media will say she moved on and on to the next mark. could be greg, we are all waiting for it. >> greg: i think you are probably right. >> jesse: i don't think the cwords equivalent to the n word. not to say it is not bad. but i would not equate what roseanne said to samantha. i don't know how you slice or dice it. but not as ugly as the n- word. she's looking for attention and like a cry for help. she's not a talented comedian and not on the colbert. she is a mantha bee list. and she is trying to be filthy. and i ask people at fox news and

they do all of the number crunching. give me a list of other nasty stuff she said. i have three pages of derogatory sexual slurs she used against the members of the trump family and almost every single one of them. >> greg: don't be a tease. >> jesse: it is all bad. and some of the worst stuff she reserved for the women. kelly ann conway. [bleep] and f--- sarah sanders. whether chelsea handler and samantha bee. they save the worst for the women. whether it is melania, or ivanka or sarah sanders. they go nuts on these people. >> they are mad because their girl didn't win. and i feel like the comedians went from being funny toangry.

and i like the word snotty. we are watching adult mean girls all of the time. and i think comedians have a hard job, you want to be funny but not too unpolitically correct or did i offend anybody. but comedy should be funny and this is not funny. this is someone who is having a problem and she is turning into a mean girl seeing what she can say. this had to be scripted and people heard it. and this was a network decision to release this. i don't understand how it is it an off the cuff. >> jesse: not a life show. and everybody all the way up to the top brass knew it. >> they have to look how they handle it. and then people jump and said is there a ideological reason?

get fired and not. we live in a day and age and not tolerate mean and nasty stuff. that is not funny meant to make people feel bad or be racist, you have to do it across the board. >> jesse: i don't think she will be canned. cbs is not thinking they will lose. she may gain viewers. roseanne, i think people would turn it off. >> i would be inclined to accept the apology. there has to be a policy here and not one person said something heinous and disgusting and they lose their job. and another person keep their job and get promoted that doesn't make sense. >> greg: it goes back to what charles krauthammer said in the '80s. the right thinks you are wrong

and the left things you are evil. and that defines the selective outrage and meaning that someone can get away saying something heinous about you because you are evil. bullpen i say something disgusting about any liberal they will go how can you do that? that is disgusting and you are a terrible person. it is that divide. they think you are evil and we think they are wrong. and that creates the culture. >> jerry: making excuses. >> greg: you are the bad person. >> jesse: their political agenda is so rightous they allow for things like this to happen. >> dana: what about the self policing of your own side? >> greg: you mentioned the bad and no affects. they made a joke about the shooting of these people and said they were country music

fans. and to that liberal fan, country music fans are racist red necks and the joke is okay and they are bad people. >> geraldo: i think it is another point having to do with timing. i made my share of gaffes and the timing of your apology is critical. for example, if you apologize as samantha bee as roseanne did hours after you talk to your pr more than and management and executive producer and seen the audience reaction, i give that little credit. and i don't in any way, it doesn't absolve the sin. if you do it immediate. and oh, my god i screw up and hit the send button and i wish i could get that back. and if there is a spontaneous

apology where it comes from the soul and you are your own policemen and monitor and responding to your own misdeed or misfeasance, then i say cut them slack. but a day later, come on, it is not. >> dana: we'll move on. stunned and shell shocked and destraut. these are the words describing president obama's reaction to the election much president president. that's next. -here comes the rain.

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>> jesse: stunning new revelations about president obama's relacks by donald trump winning the white house. he was blind sided that in a book by ben rhoeds. obama questioned the american people's choice. maybe this is what people want? i have the economy set up well and no consequences and they can have a cartoon. the former president wondered if

democrats missed the mark with their strategy, quote what if we were wrong and maybe we pushed too far and maybe people want to fall back in their tribe. and the biggest confession. rhoeds said he missed sign that hillary clinton was vulnerable because she is part of a corrupted establishment that can't be trusted. one of the things that jumped out of me is when the former president pushed too far. i agreement he moved the country so far. war on police and happy holidays instead of merry christmas and obamacare and they were not ready for a drastic change. >> greg: he sees it they were not ready for the progressive leader. and we are like no, you went too far left. obama tries to comfort ben rhoeds. there are more stars in the sky

than grains of sand on the earth. that is something like a high school junior would put in the yearbook. i mean, that is the president on a hallmark card? how did he know. the other thing,in have to defend ben. everybody was in shock. i only knew three people. terry, and my brother-in-law and nick who runs the steak house who knew trump was going to win. maybe ger altdo, did. >> jesse: i called it the weekend before the election. >> greg: we don't do episodes. >> jesse: before seen in the vault. and the fact that he said i have the economy set up so well.

i don't think the american people thought it was going great on main street. >> dana: i think it is normal for a president to feel this way and common after a president who gets two terms, the opposing party usually wins the next time around. but president obama has been relatively quiet. but first time we are getting an insight of what it was like. on the economy, i think they have some room to say it takes a while to pull up out of the hole and they were doing that. but president trump unleashed the monsters in the market to say we are hungry and going to do more. the tax cut and deregulation and everyone felt like we would use the capital and move forward. and if that continues we'll see. i think that is what he was talking about. >> geraldo: he was talking about

race. >> jesse: he said they fell back in their tribes. >> geraldo: president obama said race relations were never better. i wondered what he was talking about. trayvon martin and charleston and all of the things that happened that were racial and to continue the storm, i know it is controversial and sensitive territory, i think many black people were relieved when president obama when he was out of office, because they saw in the minds of many, my black friends and i think you could generalize, they saw in the way people were responding to president obama. like when jan brewer got him on the tarmac and scolded him and wilson said you lie.

and i think, in terms of race consciousness and how people were responding black and white, i think the obama presidency will be noted, i think he was absolutely right. 10 or 20 years too soon and the country was not ready for it and part of the back lash against hillary clinton. she's not a white guy, and just like obama was not a white guy. and you think about the whole president trump and then candidate or precandidate trump he was born in kenya birther nonsense, i think that race took a batterings. i don't think they have been this bad in quite a while in obama's presidency. he set up the economy from president trump to continue unleashing the lines. >> i would not necessarily agree with the best set up.

>> i can't believe they underestimated how much people didn't trust hillary clinton. and to say they were blind sided. people like that spent too much time in the ideological bubble. i didn't know they would come out and vote for donald trump. and i knew they would not stay and vote for hillary clinton. they couldn't vote for someone who lied repeatedly. you don't want to vote for someone who put a server in the back room closest and thought it was a good idea. people wanted to hold on for more of the money. i knew they were not inspired by the former administration. and it is hard for president obama who looks at a guy different than him in experience and delivery and find out what the complete rejection.

can they view me as an insider and did they reject everything i brought to the table and in a sense they did. >> jesse: he said i was trying to drag the bitter clingers across the threshold. >> dana: we'll have his book in a few months. i will not read it and i will still discuss it. the trump election was a reaction to the subversion as being safe, law and order and national defense and borders. that's all it is about. and how is it to do with feeling and subversion and going on. >> geraldo: president obama was a insufferable elitist snob. >> jesse: you heard it here first and i didn't say it. one of the outrageous of media and jim acosta got slammed for

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>> greg: that is how you say feckless. as you know. kim kardashian visited to talk prison reform. and here is cnn's crown prince. and lamenting our presidency lack of seriousness. >> forget the fact that kim kardashian is here in the white house and what planet that is resembling normal. she should not be here talking prison reform. it is nice, but not a serious thing to happen. >> greg: mr. sophisticated. does this guy ever have any fun? he would complain about freshly laundered pajamas.

only thing i could get. i get it, kim is not the important celebrity that showed up with president obama. sheep's no john legend. is that right, jimmy. >> i will push the president to get more victim offed. >> give cnn the scoop. >> john ledge enld, don't hold your breath. >> we might a little bit. and the fact is, a lot of celebrities visited obama. john ledge sxend sein feld and that never bothered jim. and those in the media can't step outside of their own bias. even if trump does something good or what.shave done. they act like it is a horrible first and it is awful. and trump hears out a celebrity over a case of a woman who served 25 years for a life sentence. don't you think acosta would find that refreshing?

it is not about the prisoner or kim, it is about trump. it seems like jim is tuck in a prison of his own making. i crapped it up with a nice little package and hand it over to you, jesse. clearly a product of bias. the whole story changes. >> jesse: take a lap acosta, you got crushed. it is i pop chrissy and he told the late night show i was tough on obama as i. trump. he gave obama all of these keszs at the press coverage. i don't mind. you are in the tank for the left and own it. don't hide behind cnn. you are biassed and if you are on the right and harassing questions at obama i am sure

sure people would be lauding you. i would be doing a hell of a job and he has a stomach for this. they are calling this woman who kim call would. first time nonviolent drug offender. she was running a cocaine ring with south colombia drug lords. maybe it was too harsh. but she sold a dime bag on the street. that is amounts to cocaine for many, many years. there was a lot of drug dealers that sold and did far less time and they get parole. what about acosta. and i have an affiliation in the sense that his dad was a cub an

refugee and latin pride in all of that. and he is uptight and inconsistent and he is disrespectful of president trump. i think kim kardashian going to the white house is fabulous. if that is what it takes to talk about prison reform and sentencing reform. >> jesse: it is a boring product. >> geraldo: there are so many catastrophes competing for center stage on the world platnorm. you need someone like her to push it over. in am delighted that president trump pardoned denissia. he hinted that rod, the former governor of illinois. he got 18 years for saying i can't wait to get something for a seat. and peter fits gerald who is jim

comey's friend. he was the prosecutor in illinois and martha stewart. she was in the clear and lied to a fed and didn't know you couldn't tell a mistruth. >> jesse: lobby for a pardon just in case. >> greg: and for dana and jenna. >> you know that prison reform acosta agreed with this. and he has to twist it. and because it is trump, he has to oppose and have a problem with it. when it is an issue they oppose it is one thing. and probably supports and many people do and you have to nail just because it is trump, that make its so funny for the audience, i think. >> dana: i will talk about the celebrity angle and i don't care their political views and i

don't take much stock in them and it doesn't persuade me at all. angelina jolie when she talked about the plight of children and refugees, that was effective. >> greg: yes. >> dana: and so if you have a platform and want to do good, that is to be admired and i would say on the pardon front. it was not the pardon i was expecting today. we talked about matthew charles who is actually back in jail, it was a government error and i hear is kicked around that his sentence would be commuted and a pardon possibly this week and that is much more awarded. >> greg: he did do jack johnson. >> dana: that is posthummous. and this is a guy who was sent back to prison unnecessarily. >> greg: big talks with north

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>> we have made progress in setting the conditions. and the conditions are putting president trump and chairman kim jong-un in a place to have progress made. >> geraldo: president trump is optimistic but not committing and scheduled and cancelled and may be born again summit in singapore in less than two weeks from today. >> the meetings have been very positive. we'll see what happens. it is a process. it is it all a process and we'll see. >> geraldo: dana, what would you consider a victory or achievement? >> dana: i think it is too early to say and the white house is correct to set expectations lower and secretary pompeo as a communication person and watching him handle questions from the press and he's well versed in this and i hope he is

keeping a log or diary so we read about the history later on, it is a whirlwind of activity. he said 72 hours worth of progress and he sounded optimistic but not like he had stars in his eyes that it would be amazing. and he said we know who we are dealing with and we get it. i think they are going in to it clear- eyed. >> geraldo: the state department, when you compare to rex tillerson that was dysfunctional and invisible it seems to be perking along now. >> greg: it seems to be transparent and determined action. and trump understands the terrain. he could negotiate a bird off of a bird feeder. and that's what he did. kim guilfoyle is not here. that is another kim. and there is a lot of criticism about mistake in meeting and

meeting the north koreans, you are elevating bad people to the world stage. that is the only option you have is meeting them and the other option is killing them. and the fact you are going to have to elevate somebody and sit counsel and talk to them. and that might be the break through. >> geraldo: you ever get a vibe from people your age. >> jesse: i get vibes coming in all of the time. >> geraldo: can you filter out those. and you are a generation noco. >> jesse: they think it is an alcoholic beverage. i think what is happening. there is a think piece by benny osney and he talks about trump's ability to keep opponents off balance and he slaps the face and extends the hand.

and kept kim off balance through military exercises and random fig leaves. he cancelled it to show him who's boss and make the guy's head spin and send the right hand man, the killer to get wined and dined and the president wants to sit around the boardroom table and have hamburgers with little rocket man. and that is how they will do diplomacy. >> greg: a think piece in the post. >> jesse: parent company owns the post. what are you getting at. >> geraldo: jesse was referring to the thug. didn't he use a cannon to kill one of kim's enemies. how do conservatives feel about the opening? is it as skeptical. >> obama took heat with meeting people without preconditions.

and i think the way president trump played his cards. i think it is good. they know he is serious and the trump administration want complete and verifiable and denuclearization and i think that north korea wants these sanctions lifted and i think he played them from a place of strength. when he comes out and said let's see what happens. that is perfect way to handle it nothing may happen and we may get no where and you have to be willing to sit at the table from a position of strength which is something that president obama is not doing and something that he is doing now. >> geraldo: you are okay with him negotiating with the killer guy. >> i am okay with him going to the table. >> geraldo: tomorrow, he's meeting a guy that was sanctioned ten minutes ago. >> you are asking me to do that,

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>> if you are not blessed with 20/20 vigdz. a brand new study. people who wear glasses are smarter than those who don't. scottish researchers say people with higher intelligence are more likely to wear specks and contacts. here at the table. i can never read the prompter. they have to bump it up three times the size and this is about glass. are they real. >> jesse: they are so real and i have contacts in and now getting dizzy. >> you wear glasses. >> people with poor eyesight are smaller because the poor vision is like peacock feathers.

and i want to make another point. glasses used to be medical devices and socially humiliating. you know what changed that? fashion. and now the stigmatism is no longer a stigma. >> dana: i remember when i was in college. you are forceed to pay attention more and you have to struggle. and i think it makes you more. i got lassic surgery. do you wear glass. > dana: i did for a while. i got lasik in 2003. i have my young friend macy english who lives in savannah, georgia and wore them since a unioning child and she is smartest kid i know. >> i wonder if you are smarter

or seem smarter. how do you measure that? >> geraldo: lower risk of cancer and cardiovasular. >> dana: i will take it. >> geraldo: am i smart or not. >> jesse: you don't look smart without them. you look old and tire would. what about me? >> geraldo: goofy and nerdy. >> do people look smarter. i think so. and if you wear fake glasses, you are mor're more likely to be dishonest. >> what about the frame that you can stick your finger through. one more thing coming up next.

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$50, everybody was surprised by this act of kindness. took a picture with him, she was really grateful. but it turns out that the kind stranger was arizona cardinals tight and jermaine gresham, thank you to him, very nice way to share the wealth. >> she should have learned a lesson about the packing! >> she just came back from europe, maybe she bought some gifts. >> a goose is on the loose at a major league baseball game. check out this video. tigers-angels in detroit on wednesday, delayed it when a canadian goose took the field, did not want to leave. they try to chase chase the bird out of harm's way. oh! >> and then he got hurt. >> they ended up rescuing the goose. the woman that throughout the first pitch, saving the goose. >> come the poor little goose. anyway. >> it is okay, no animals were harmed during the filming of this. >> all right, greg greg. >> it is time for -- maybe it is

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