knowing donald trump. you will want to see it live. you will hear it live today. >> the beginning of history, not just national history but world history. >> donald trump speaking at the top of the hour. have a great saturday, everybody. >> on to neil cavuto. >> we are waiting for the president from short and sweet to singapore and history. very soon we will have a bigger one. welcome, everybody. i am neil cavuto when we are live where the president is expected to speak any moment before he takes off and then it will be i guess g-7-1. donald trump backing out early. they are not happy he is leaving but with his trade tariffs and tough talk and wanting to invite russia back in they haven't been thrilled since he arrived.

now to singapore and another summit, more likely one on one, donald trump and kim jong un, let's get maybe to maybe not rumble, the talks make history will repeat the mistakes of history, bill richardson has some ideas, bill clinton's point man in north korea, the first time we thought we had a deal with the north koreans until we didn't. what he says this president must nail down to make sure history doesn't repeat itself and retired general jerry boykin and paul grammar say is important about singapore and what happens after singapore. that is what matters. they have some ideas and hawaii democratic congresswoman on the volcano that is not letting up and interior secretary ryan sankey on environmentalist outrage at the administration that is not letting up either. the golden state warriors basketball champs again but good luck getting a ticket to the white house anytime soon. why love our ball says this is getting childish and talking to

you, stefan curry and talking to you, mr. pres. kids, cover your ears. cavuto live starts now. any minute now the president of the united states will speak to the world and let us know his thoughts about going to singapore. he believed that conference early to make sure, for the historic meeting with kim jong un, to kevin cork in québec canada. what does he expect to say. >> reporter: he will not just talk about bilateral conversations between the us and canada. he tipped his hat on that yesterday but we will hear whether the us will take part in the final communiqué. it is customary of the confusion of the g-7 to have a group statement. will the us take part in it? coming into the summit the pres.

has been at odds with global trading partners because of his push to level the playing field. we are not certain he will take part in that. we suspect the pres. will probably take the opportunity to field questions. an interesting start to the day, he was tardy to the equity advisory council breakfast that was supposed to start at 8:25. officials say he was hustling with them discussing the day's events. we have not been able to confirm this but one of my sources that it had something to do with the final communiqué. a considerably different field as the pres. and world leaders took part in the first working session of day one. the goal as always, collaborating on issues surrounding trade and security of the environment. clearly we are looking at the family photo wondering if we might see body language that might take us off to the mood. you didn't see anything on the

surface. and there's a number of reasons the president might not feel this has been a welcome ceremony for him. we will be watching that is we await the president of the united states. neil: let's talk about the upcoming visit to singapore. we will be sitting down with the leader of north korea, richardson is already there with the latest. >> reporter: all systems go. those are the words from singapore's foreign minister speaking in beijing earlier today. he was in north korea before that and said things will start happening in the next 24 hours, donald trump is scheduled, make pompeo, expectations or anything from a meet and greet to

something bold. pompeo acknowledged it is going to take sometime. the idea of north korea surrendering its nuclear weapons program. the ballistic missile program, and what north korea will say in return. officials say they are applying sanctions in the meantime. and holding off on additional sanctions in his regime. at the conclusion of the summit, might not be the only summit. this may involve a second or third summit, the beginning of the meetings between the two may only start on tuesday and follow on from there. there are teams negotiating, us and north korean teams in singapore for more than a week to get the groundwork but the expectation is they are hopefully going to clear those issues, the beginning of the conversations, what each country wants to get out of this.

in the present and kim jong un will make some progress. neil: we are waiting for the president of the united states, always good to have you. so much pressure on participants going into this. offering the possibility of extending a little bit, they -- that would be advisable. >> these were two heads of state meeting and the follow-on has to be on a lower level with lower-level diplomats. we should not expect the ships to pull into port next week and start loading kim's nuclear program and evacuating it because this is a process where we will see a broad framework. what we are not going to see is

a bad deal because after pulling out of the iran deal the last thing donald trump can afford to do is agree to a bad deal. neil: a bad deal interpreted as taking troops out of south korea sooner rather than later. we have issues with that even though it is high on the north korean blip and able to start denuclearize thing as you say, coming with pieces and parts, that would be inadvisable. >> in the short-term it would be inadvisable to remove us troops and we need to remember other asian countries are very dependent upon the fact that america has troops in south korea. we are important to asian countries around them. what donald trump has to convey to kim up front we will accept nothing less then total

denuclearization based on our definition of it. we believe his nuclear program is a next essential threat to america, we will do whatever we have to do to the military option to reduce that threat the women don't make a deal in the next few meetings that is what he should expect. neil: there's another item for debate for ending the state of war that has existed between the country's for 70 plus years. that would be a big deal in and of itself and that is something the pres. we are told, stated as a goal of his. is it doable? >> it is doable but we have to have allied participation, south korean signaled that. keep in mind since 1953, we have been in a cease-fire. this would be a mostly symbolic step if we can accomplish this and i think it could be done.

neil: the region we are talking about, you have north korea, south korea, certainly kim jong un's father and grandfather wanted to unite a single courier under the north's control like the old days of north vietnam and south vietnam, how do we avoid that? >> that is not going to happen. china will be the single thing that will prohibit that from happening. a unified korea because china considers korea to be there buffer. it was a buffer between china and the west. lasting they accept is unified korea because naturally, that would ultimately fall under western influence and that is not what they want. they want the buffer to be in place. neil: i want to bring in the interior secretary of the united states, an important force to look at, the first elected to

congress, very good to have you. >> great to be with you. neil: interior secretary of the united states, you put a lot on the line for your country. how important is what will be going on in singapore? >> it is important. the pres. is doing what he said he would do. set aside the numbers on unemployment, energy, what we are doing, 500 days ago that we would be sitting down multiple meetings with correia, the single greatest threat in my opinion facing this country, having a nuclear armed north korea that could launch icbms that hit territories, possibly the mainland itself, to be where we are where we could end the war, absolutely astonishing what this president has done.

heather: it occurs at a time where he has had far more favorable things to say about the north korean leader in the chinese than the people he has been meeting with in canada for the g7 summit. they went to see him leave. how do you feel about that? >> canada is one of our closest allies and always will be but the trade deals are unfair. we want free, fair trade. when you look at it, it is one way and time to say stop. the world is more prosperous, safer but look at the trade deficits and the deals that were made, not in america's best interests and long-term not in the world's best interests because our wealth, our jobs going overseas has consequences. the relationships with our

allies are based on fair trade. when it is one way it is not fair. neil: it is almost even, surplus or deficit. it is about a wash. i will say it comes at a time we need all the friends we can get. and outlined in a few minutes. look how tough i can be with china, imagine what i will do with you. >> i am not concerned, it will remain the closest friend, but the dispute over principle. it was made of steel. neil: the president of the united states, economic partners in canada.

listen to this. >> we converted a really tremendously successful g7 and would like to provide you with an update. the legendary larry kudlow and the legendary john bolton, we had a meeting on defense, environment and tariffs which we are here for. i would like to thank the prime minister, justin trudeau, for working on this summit, so wonderful, the people of canada are wonderful and it is a great country and a beautiful country i might add. we tackled a variety of issues and opportunities facing our nations. at the top of the list was the issue of trade. an important subject because the united states has been taken advantage of for decades and we can't do that anymore.

we had extremely productive discussions on the need to have fair and reciprocal meetings. people can't judge us 270% and we charge them nothing. that doesn't work anymore. i made a lot of statements having to do with clarity. we wanted expect other nations to provide fair market access to american exports and we will take whatever steps are necessary to protect american industry and workers from unfair foreign trading practices of which there are many but we are getting them stripped down slowly but surely. we also discussed the issue of uncontrolled migration and the threat it poses to national security and other groups and countries and our citizens and quality-of-life which we are committed to addressing the migration challenge by helping migrants to remain and prosper

in their own home countries. a wide array of national security threats were addressed including the threat of iran, the g7 nations remain committed to controlling the nuclear ambitions, with or without them those ambitions are going to be controlled along with efforts to combat terrorism and extremism and those who spread this deadly ideology. the nations of the g7 are bound by shared values that came out loud and clear. each of our nations is totally unique with our own people and our own sovereign obligations but we can coordinate together and achieve common good and good for all for all our people, all of our nations inked in the great effort to create a more just, peaceful and prosperous world and from the standpoint of trade and jobs and being fair to

companies, we are committed to a much more fair trade situation for the united states because it has been treated very unfairly and i don't blame other leaders for that. i blame our past leaders. there is no reason that this should have happened. last year they lost 800, we as a nation over the years, the latest numbers, $817 billion on trade. that is ridiculous and unacceptable. and everybody was told that so i don't blame them. i blame our leaders. in fact i congratulate the leaders of other countries for

so crazily being able to make these trade deals that were so good for their country and so bad for the united states but those days are over. in just a few minutes i will be leaving for singapore. i will be on a mission of peace and we will carry in my heart, the hearts of millions of people, people from all over the world have to get denuclearization, we have to get something going, we think north korea will be a tremendous place in a short time. we appreciate everything going on and appreciate working together with north korea. they are working well with us. so far so good. we will see what happens and we will know very soon so i will leave as soon as we are finished with this conference. i look forward to it and i think it is important for north korea and south korea and japan in the world and the united states, a great thing and we will see what

happens. any questions? >> we are about to embark on what may be the most important meeting we you ever had in your life, what is in your gut? steel nerves or butterflies? can you describe -- >> it is always everything. this is probably rarely been done. it is unknown territory in the truest sense but i feel confident, i feel kim jong un what to do something great for his people and he has that opportunity and he won't have that opportunity again. it will never be there again. i really believe he is going to do something positive for his people, for himself, his family. he has an opportunity the likes of which i think if you look into history very few people ever had. we can take that nation with

those great people and truly make it great. it is a one time shot and it is going to work out very well. i feel positive because it makes so much sense and we will watch over and protect and do a lot of things. south korea, japan, china, many countries want to see it happen and they will help. there is a great time, this is not happened in all the years they have been separated by an artificial boundary. a great opportunity for peace, lasting peace and prosperity. >> when you last spoke to vladimir putin, do you expect to meet him? >> i have not spoken to vladimir putin in quite a wild.

it has been discussed, some people like the idea of bringing russia back in, this used to be the g8, not the g7 and something happened a while ago where russia is no longer in. it would be an asset to have russia in. it would be good for the world, good for russia, good for the united states, good for all the countries of the current g7. having russia back in would be positive. >> this was a positive meeting, and what they were going to make any concessions to you. >> that is the way it should be. no barriers, that is the way it

should be. let's say canada. and dairy is an example, 270%, nobody announced that. we don't want to pay anything. we have to ultimately that is what you want, a tariff free, no barriers and no subsidies because countries are subsidizing industries and that is not fair. you go tariff free, barrier free and subsidy free, that is the way you learn at the wharton school of finance, that would be the ultimate thing, whether that works, i did suggest, people are going to go back to the drawing board and check it out. we can't have an example where

the united states is paying 270%, just can't have it. when they send things to us they can't have that. it was not contentious. what was strong was the language that this cannot go on but the relationships were very good, whether president macron, justin did a really good job. the relationships were outstanding. but because of the fact the united states, leaders of the past didn't do a good job on trade, i am not blaming countries, i'm bringing our people that represented our past, it is going to change, not a question of i hope it changes, it is going to change 100% and tariffs are going to come way down because people cannot continue to do that. we are like the piggy bank that everybody is robbing and that

ends. larry kudlow is a great expert undescended total free trader but even larry has seen the ravages of what they have done with her tariffs. do you want to say something quickly? >> one interesting point in terms of the g7. i don't know if they are surprised with donald trump's free-trade proclamation but they listened to it and have discussions about that. it reduces barriers. 0 nontariff areas, and cleanup the international trading system and virtual consensus, now would be a target and the best way to promote economic growth. i was particularly gratified to

talk about free-trade. >> our farmers whether it is to a barrier, nonmonetary barrier that makes it impossible. india, some of the tariffs are 100%. we judge nothing. we talked to many countries and it is going to trade with them. >> another question on trade. tariffs, and retaliatory tariffs, did you get any concessions or agreements with these countries not to move

forward and are you willing to not move forward? >> they are making a mistake. we have a tremendous trade imbalance. we try to bring our piece up a little bit so it is not so bad and they go up, the difference is they do so much more business with us that we do with them, that we can't lose that. you understand? we can't lose it. as an example, with one country we have 375 $375 million in trade deficits, we can't lose. you could make the case they lost years ago but when we count $375 billion you can't lose. we have to bring them out. there is very bad spirit when we have a big trade imbalance and we want to bring it up to balance, just balance and they keep raising, never catch, that is not a good thing to do and we

have very strong measures that take care of that because the numbers are so astronomically against them in terms of anything as per your question. we win that war 1000 times out of 1000. >> two things can happen on nafta. we will either leave it the way it is as a threesome deal with canada, the united states, mexico, change very substantially, talking about very big changes or make a deal directly with canada directly, both of those things could happen. if the deal is and made, that would be a very bad thing for china and a very bad thing for mexico. the united states frankly would be a very good thing. i'm not looking to do that. i'm not looking to play that game. we are going to have nafta in a

better negotiated form, but we will have two deals. it will have a sunset, the two sunsets, isd is provision and sunset provision, they have been heavily negotiated, two sunsets, two concepts, close on the sunset division. we have one that is 5 years, you know it very well. one group likes to have 5 years and a renegotiation at the end of 5 years and another one that is longer because of the investments. we are pretty close. yes, sir? >> to come back to russia, something that got them kicked out of the g8, the annexation of

criteria. should crimea be recognized? >> you have to ask pres. obama because he let crimea go, that was during his administration and he was the one that let russia go and spent a lot of money on crimea and rebuilding is, they have their submarine port etc. but crimea was let go during the obama administration and obama can say all he wants but he allowed russia to take crimea? i may have had a different attitude but you have to ask that question to pres. obama. why did he do that? why did he do that? with that being said it has been done a long time. i would rather see russia in the g8 as opposed to the g7. i would say the g8 is a more meaningful group than the g7 absolutely. >> did you find the europeans when they made the case to you the you shouldn't use national security as a justification for tariffs? >> they didn't even make that

case. it is the balance sheet, our strength. it is absolutely national security and we have a strong balance sheet because of what i am doing. the strongest economy we ever had in the united states in the history of the united states, the best unemployment numbers, black unemployment, lowest in history, hispanic unemployment lowest in history, don't mean in the last 10 or 20 years, the lowest in the history of this country black unemployment is doing the best it has ever done. hispanic doing the best, women are now up to 21, soon it will be the best ever coming in the country's history. we have to have deals that are fair. we have to have deals that are

economic that affect the military. >> how do you make the case? >> very easy, economic, the balance sheet, a great military in the balance sheet. >> heading into the g7 talks, and angry with you, and leaving here early, in singapore. the us alliance is shifting under your presidency? >> who are you with? >> cnn. >> i figured, fake news cnn, the worst. i can tell i had no idea you were cnn after the question i was curious you were with. i would say the relationship is 10. we have a great relationship. emmanuel, justin, i would say

the relationship is attend. i don't blame them. i blame our past leaders. no reason this should happen. no reason we should have big trade deficits with every country in the world. i've gone beyond the g7. there is no reason for this was the fault of the people who preceded me. i'm not -- going back a long way. going back 50 years. it got worse and worse. we used to be a nation that was unbelievably cash flow oriented. had no debt of any consequence and build a highway system, the interstate system virtually out of cash flow, it was a lot different. we have a good relationship and i don't these people but i will

blame them if they don't ask smart and what they have to do because they have no choice. they have no choice. they are either going to make the trades fair because our farmers have been hurt, look at our farmers for 15 years, going just like this, down. our farmers have been hurt, workers have been hurt, moved to mexico, now we are going to fix the situation. if it is not fixed we won't deal with these but the relationship is great. you can tell that your fake friends at cnn. the relationship i had, the leaders of -- rated on a scale of 0 to 10. that doesn't mean i agree with what they are doing and they know very well that i don't. we are negotiating very hard tariffs and barriers, the european union is brutal to the

united states. i am telling them they are smiling at me. the gig is up. they are not trying, there's nothing they can say. canada can't believe, mexico, we have a $100 billion trade deficit with mexico that doesn't include the drugs that are pouring in but we are. $1.6 billion, going to keep that going but a lot of these countries smile at me when i'm talking and to smile is we couldn't believe we got away with it. that is the smile. it is going to change. they have no choice. if it is not going to change we are not going to trade with them. how about a couple more? go ahead in the back. >> talking with these talks, kim jong un, do you have a clear objective what you want to get

out of them? >> i have a clear objective but i have to say that it is something that will always be spur of the moment, that has not been done at this level. it is a leader, an unknown personality, people don't know much about him. i think he is going to surprise on the upside very much on the upside. never been done, never been tested. talking about world leaders that never met him. we are going in with a positive spirit. very well prepared. they have many people in shanghai. people in singapore. and working with

representatives, to a different attitude and it will come find but i said many times who knows? who knows? may not work out. and it would be a process. >> looking forward to this initial talk whether things are going well. >> the minimum would be relationship. you start at least a dialogue. i have done well with deals. what you want to do is start that. i want to accomplish more than that. i believe at least we have met each other and seen each other and hopefully liked each other and we will start that process, that would be the minimum. the maximum, you know the answer to that. >> serious about -- >> how long will it take?

in the first minute. >> that is what i do. how long will it take to figure out this area. and you know if you are going to like somebody in the first 5 seconds, you ever hear that one? they will know quickly whether or not something good is going to happen. i think i will know whether it will happen fast. it may not but i will know quickly whether something positive will happen. if i think it won't happen i won't waste my time. i don't want to waste his time. >> giving kim's a meeting, getting a win out of you? >> know. only, only the fake news says that. we just got three hostages back.

we paid nothing. they came back, happily ensconced in their homes with their families, the happiest people in the world right now. everyone said, the haters, giving him a meeting. give me a break. if i didn't do this it would be, has never been done before. obviously what has been done before hasn't worked. this is something i can't stress, you talked about tariffs, not looking to criticize people that were preceding the but on tariffs it should have never happened. and hundreds of billions to other countries that frankly

would never negotiate it. how did it get so bad? he looked at me and said no one ever talked to us, they were missing in action, our leaders. it took place with north korea, this should not be done now. this should be done 25 years ago. i can't comment on that. one more question. >> will you raise the issue of the gulagss? >> we will raise every issue, every issue. >> in canada you attacked the us press back home but you have also done it on foreign soil. i would like to ask why you do that. >> the us press is very dishonest. not all of them. i have some folks in your

profession with the us coming in the us, proud citizens, reporters, the most outstanding people i know but there are many people in the press that are unbelievably dishonest, don't cover story the way they're supposed to be, don't even report them in many cases. tremendous, this -- i came up with the term fake news, a lot of fake news but at the same time i have great respect for many of the people in the press. thank you all very much, i appreciate it. neil: the pres. wrapping up a 20 minute press conference as we leave canada to go to singapore. outline the differences he has with his big western power counterparts over the issue of trade, the pres. saying the g-7 has been very successful or not at all contentious, they don't

ci to i on trade issues. we are bound together by shared values when it comes to trade, we see things differently. the us he says has been taken advantage of for decades and we can't afford to do that anymore and we won't, it must stop he says. of countries retaliate against us on trade they are making a mistake, they are making a very big mistake. we must have fair access. he also he made a bold promise and maybe a goal for all of his counterparts that they remove all tariffs, all subsidies, the us will do the same and let foreign countries compete on the same level with their respective communities and time zones without any subsidies or payments source or taxes of any kind. see how that goes. an idea that has not been warmly received in canada among the g-7 nations and made reference to

russia, once part of what was called the g8, no longer. i would look hard to see the russians included. that is important. ica g8 with russia more effective than a g-7 now. speaking of singapore, finally said this is it for the leader of north korea. it is a 1-time shot for kim jong un. secretary ryan think he, the commander-in-chief spelling that out on trade related issues have an effect in the country. and removing all subsidies, all tariffs, relatively small ones as well. how will that go? >> a difference between a politician, very free-trade. and in the interest of national security.

and airplanes made of aluminum. the world is safer when the us prospers but he is exactly right. it is fair trade. the pres. is spot on on that, it will remain strong. and you use the term piggy bank, robbing america's piggy bank, and in court the you, he is spot on. we have an opportunity, north korea is an opportunity, china doing very well, south korea is doing very well, the model pivoting north korea from military based economy to an economic juggernaut. they can go so far in a small p or go of time, they have that opportunity and the pres. laid it out. i hope north korea does, see the light at the end of the tunnel,

that we need an economy and kim jong un can do great things and our allies around north korea will all help. great opportunity. heather: you had a good idea when you first visit someone you like or not in the first two seconds, he will have a good idea when he sits down with kim jong un in the first minute how things will go. what did you think of that? >> classic donald trump. he looks at instinct. i have never seen a president look at instinct. he has great instincts, he measures a policy, measures up a person, a great deal of personal relationship between the two. he was actually right when he goes to look at it, measure kim jong un up and to know whether this is all for show or has substance behind it.

heather: are other cabinet members -- worried whether it is legitimate, bp has with some trading partners and the way they treat us that this might harm us at least in the short term, when we could use all the friends we could get? >> we are allies for a reason and our relationship with mexico and canada runs deeper than a trade dispute. i'm not worried about the long-term. short-term i am hoping both sides renegotiate in the interest not only of the united states -- we have to have a strong economy and when the sides are not fair, he is right. it is not them. they negotiate a great deal. we did not. you can go back to the marshall

plan. it seems like we never left the marshall plan about rebuilding the world. we just forgot about eventually the world is rebuilt and the trade deals are one way so it is time to level the playing field. lou: you for your patience after all of that. back to under secretary of defense lieut. gen. derek boykin. thank you for staying around. i wanted to raise what the pres. had to say about bringing russia back to the so-called g8 when we had this included. he thinks it is more effective as an entity with washington without. >> i think it is a good long-term goal. it would be good if other nations would agree to that. i got to tell you, this is where i got a disagreement with the president. russia has not been held accountable for crimea, invading

northeast ukraine, poisoning people in different parts of the world including britain. they have never been held accountable for this. bringing them in without going through a process would be reinforcing bad behavior. heather: when the president referred to barack obama, that started the invasion of crimea and taking from ukraine, something barack obama let happen and headed been donald trump things would have been different, what would he have done differently? raise it to the level of a military conflict with the russians over the crimea situation? do you think that would have been a legitimate response? >> there are a variety of things that could have been done. we never gave lisa laid to ukraine. that is something the trump

administration has started to do. we never gave the ukraine an opportunity to fight their own battle because unlike what we did in libya, syria, provided our allies, our friends, no lethal aid. that is one of the things the obama administration could have done and encourage them to fight their own battle against the russians. neil: you are good read of people. i want to get your thoughts, that he can figure them out pretty quickly. within five seconds he said. he system with a north korean leader, a pretty good idea where things are going in the first minute. what do you think of that? >> i agree with secretary think he. he revealed how important his personal instincts are. he is a relational kind of guy. we know that.

he built an empire because he trusts his instincts. his instincts are informed by the people he considers to be allies, the people that he trusts. but his instincts are ultimately what prevails in his decision-making and i think he can shakeup a person's personality and intent very quickly. neil: have you ever been wrong about someone you initially didn't like? >> yes. neil: is it rare? >> it is very rare but i have. neil: in the first few seconds when you were my guest, this is going to be a great guy. maybe you and the pres. are both right. thank you for your patience. there is a lot going on. the general pointed out he takes exception with the president invited russia back to the g8 but all attention is on singapore but what happens at that summit, this is the third

dance, trying to negotiate with the north koreans, very different of course with the president of the united states sitting down with the leader of north korea, that never happened but trying to cobble together two prior deals that fell apart. i want you to meet one of the architect behind the very first attempt that fell apart not for anything he did but more to the point because it is something north korea did. bill richardson is next. portabe cd player. my high school rethainer. oh don't... it's early 90s sitcom star dave coulier... cut...it...out! [laughing] what year is it? as long as stuff gets lost in the couch, you can count on geico saving folks money. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.

>> my cuts, my feel, that is what i do. how long will it take to figure it out? may be the first minute. the way they say you are going to like somebody in the first 5 seconds and very quickly i will know whether or not something good is going to happen.

i will know whether it will happen fast. it may not but i will know pretty quickly whether something positive will happen. >> in the first minute. i could say the same about bill richardson. i never knew, i thought he was a good egg, and it worked out. among the first, to reign in their nuclear activity. here we are right now, very good to have you. >> he will know fairly quickly whether these talks are going on. do you at your level when

working for bill clinton have a good idea with your north korean counterparts they could be trusted and a deal could be had. >> for the record, american pilots, remains out of our soldiers and political, my deals with the north koreans work. i was around the clinton administration. you don't find out with the north koreans right away. the pres. may be referring to the fact that a lot of these deals possibly could be pre-cooked. summit preparations are going well, pompeo is doing a good job narrowing our differences but i can tell you with the north koreans you never make deals with them across the negotiating deal. you go to the side, go for a meal, that is what the pres. should do. it is not going to happen the first minute unless he already knows precooked results which from this press conference

sounded like the summit is going pretty well so i am encouraged. neil: hostages and that kind of stuff, one of the first things back then, and not the degree to which they so cavalierly lied and lied again and again and again. how do we get them to stick to the plan to denuclearize which is given in these talks. >> what is key are three things, top unfettered instructions by

american nuclear experts. secondly, disclosure by the north koreans, the nuclear missile sites. they hide a lot of them. they destroy the visible ones but they are better underground. third, what you need when i sensed the press conference, you need to normalize the relationship with north korea so that you have liaison offices there. so you can have people in north korea watching them. and all kinds of soft power initiatives when talking about human rights or talking about getting the remains of our soldiers back from north korea from the korean war. there were 5000 and you have families trying to get them. normalization of relationship coupled with strong inspections, unfettered access, full disclosure by the north koreans, timelines, that is what is needed. neil: maybe you can put these

rumors to rest, bill clinton, one of his regrets, that he regrets not getting that meeting with the north korean leader, kim jong un's father at the time, the palestinian accord and all that, there were reasons for that but regrets the opportunity missed. how big a disappointment was that? how much of a wasted opportunity? >> you are absolutely right. he was at that time trying to negotiate a palestinian agreement with israel but he basically ran out of time. i will save for the nuclear agreement, the clinton administration, it fell apart because the north koreans cheated and they made a deal with pakistan enriched uranium but for tween 9 years the north

koreans didn't build a nuclear weapon. the agreement was for tween 9 years they may have as many as 40 nuclear weapons. just think they make have had 100 by now so i am defending the nuclear agreement the clinton administration -- neil: they cheated and lied. >> they did and they did it under the bush administration. neil: i did notice something about that picture in north korea, the number 2 meeting with donald trump a couple weeks ago, they were very serious, a great looking face here, and the clinton white house at the time not to look cozy, not make this look like a happy event. contrast that with the number 2 north korean spy agency chief going to the white house, the

president -- very unusual number 2 from a country to its car outside, that behavior alone versus back then with bill clinton. >> the north koreans will use that picture of the spy chief smiling, the jocular nature of that meeting for their domestic political propaganda because the number one thing the north koreans want is to show they are on par, two leaders, their leader and the president of the united states, the fact they are meeting in a summit together, the north koreans always wanted to make deals with us directly, not china, japan or south korea. this is a big win for them. this is the pres.'s style. a personal style. a lot of people regret there

were too many hugs. you build trust with the north koreans, find a way to get to know them. they never say no. i watched the pres. please, when they don't answer, press them. they never like to say no but take them on the side, make deals on the side, not in front of cameras or negotiating table because that is not the way you make a deal. listings are precooked and things are looking pretty good so far on potential agreements on normalization, nuclear missile stuff, be careful, be prepared. i hope the pres. in that long flight to singapore, really focusing on the most important summit i assume from everything you've said, ambassador, you're not a

hugger. that diplomatically that's something you avoid. >> in certain cases, there are some cultures that treasure it. the north koreans, i'm not saying they don't like hugs, but i can tell you that they're using those pictures to tell their people, the north korean people, look, our two presidents are on the same par. kim jong-un is trying to get peace, and so, it's a big ego thing, it's the cult of personality. they're god-like figures, the leaders in north korea and to show them with the president of the united states being treated, you know, at the white house is a big propaganda victory for them. >> neil: all right. ambassador, always a pleasure. next time we'll look at each other and maybe shake hands, that's the end of it, just so you know. very good seeing you, my friend and thank you for your very long service to this country. and another one who has a lot of service, paul bremer, a u.s.

diplomate, the iraq coalition for provisional authority leader, i don't know his position on hugs, but i will ask him about it. thanks, sir, for taking the time. >> nice to be with you, neil. >> i don't know if you listened to what the president was saying, he's looking forward to the meeting in singapore with the north koreans, i'm fascinated, he says he's pretty good at sizing up people. i have no idea he did, he's built a career and fortune on business relationships. he says he can figure out people sometimes in seconds and he'll have an idea where the meeting will be going within the first minute, what did you think of that? >> well, that's a bold prediction. i think if i were advising the president on goodwill gestures, i would suggest he fill the cargo of air force one and take them over a big fresh supply of korean surnames because they seem to be short on surnames in that countries.

the key question, does the president have a clear idea of an acceptable outcome? that's the key question and there, he didn't answer the question that he was asked at the press conference. >> well, he's not going to tip his hand and maybe i'll give the benefit of the doubt there. ambassador, one thing i was curious what you make of this denuclearization goal and obviously that's where we want to be and told where the north koreans are, we have very different ideas on timetables and we want them to denuclearize quickly and they might want to take their time. and there-in lies the rub. i'm maybe oversimplifying it, how do you see it? >> well, it seems to me that a successful summit, apart from whatever the personal relations are, successful summit would leave us with the idea that the koreans accept our definition of denuclearization, have come up with some kind of a plan to get from a to b. for example, it ought to start

with a full declaration by the north koreans where their nuclear and missile sites are. secondly, that they put forward a schedule for the destruction of those sites and thirdly, that that has been inspected. it seems to me that that ought to be and there should be no reason why the president couldn't say that that's his objectiv objective. obviously, he may want to keep some wiggle room because it's not all going to be done at the first summit. which is a good, realistic assessment. it's not all done at the summit. >> and we're parcel what we have aid-wise to those demonstrable results in stages. >> i would hope so, there should be no american payoff to the koreans in any of those until concrete steps are met. one of the mistakes that was made by the previous administrations in this area was that they-- the koreans got rewards before they actually performed, which is why all of the previous

negotiations collapsed. >> they did. as we're speaking to ambassador bremer, i want to draw your attention to the side of the screen, he's about to leave the summit, a french town, it's canadian. >> french canadian. >> we're waiting for him to leave canada for the singapore summit. back to the ambassador, and your sense of the meeting with a guy who is a murderer, and many complain say you make nice overtures to a man who is a butcher, killed members of his family and i point out to a lot of people, fdr couldn't pick and choose who was the leader of russia, he met with stalin. not nice guyment you could argue the same throughout history with meeting and rogues, we can't pick and choose the leaders of those countries so when you hear that

dust-up, that attack line. what do you say? >> no, i think that's right. i think it was churchill who said, you know, if to defeat hitler he had to sleep with the devil, he would do it. so a certain degree of realism is required and it's possible, this guy, kim jong-un was educated in switzerland. he saw the real world, obviously, through a filter, but it's possible that he shares the president's view that he would like to modernize the korean economy. that's possible. i don't think he's going to be like most of the real estate developers the president dealt with in new york in terms of his commitment to a capitalist system, but it's possible something could come of it. i think it's not wrong to say that the president should try to see if he can develop a personal relationship, but we shouldn't be paying any prices for it. it is a murderer. he has 100,000 of his own people as hostages, in effect, that's the estimate of the

number in the camps that they have. so, he's a pretty-- he's a pretty bad guy. >> how do you think it's all going to turn out? >> my guess is that as bill richardson said, there have been some results more than just getting along that have been cooked, which may be another reason the president didn't want to talk about that in the press conference. so, i'm optimistic that something will come out of it. i was glad to hear the president say we're well-prepared because it's good that these preparations have been going on at a lower level. that's the way to prepare a summit. so, let's hope that something good comes out of it. it certainly is a very dangerous place, part of the world. >> you know, if there was more on the line, the president of the united states or leader of north korea? >> well, they both have a lot on the line. kim jong-un probably has problems of people who don't want him to go to this meeting

and we know that he can play pretty rough. he's killed his brother, his stepbrother, he killed his uncle. the president certainly has plenty of critics in this country who will be prepared to call him on it if it's a problem. it's an even go. they both have a lot at stake an in the president's-- in the american interests we should not lose track of the fact that the credibility of our alliance with asia, particularly the koreans and japanese is on the line with this, we have to handle them very carefully, both of them. >> ambassador, thank you very, very much. very good seeing you. >> good to be with you again. >> all right, the president leaving canada, now en route to singapore or will be very, very shortly. so, that meeting goes on, the g-7 meeting continues to go on in canada and the president is missing out on a climate change meeting and women empowerment event, but he's made it clear he found the g-7 event very, very successful, but he used that opportunity when he was talking

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>> as you're headed into the g-7 talks, there was the sense that the america's closest allies are angry with you and are' angry with them and a need for friendlier talks in singapore and if you have the same way and the u.s. alliance-- >> who are you with out of curiosity? >> cnn. >> i figured, fake news cnn the worst. but i can tell by the question. i had no eyed you were with cnn.

after the question. and the relationship is a ten and the relationship i have is great and you can tell that to your fake friends at cnn. neil: and when the president speaks before the press, do not think you are above or beyond getting fingered by the president of the united states and that, of courses found out by a cnn reporter. at the issue is whether the president is odd man out with our trading partners, a variety of networks including this one raised that up for summit, what would presumably be the friendlier confines talking to the dictator out there. the president started a trade war these countries say and now the president to his credit is saying he wants to balance things out and that if it could produce a world where we don't have tariffs or trade subsidies, all would benefit. again, it's causing a big ruckus across the globe, particularly

among our friends. what do my panelists make of that. gary b smith, and we've got julie, a political analyst extraordinare, and the republican congress woman. >> still a republican. neil: it's the view that the cnn reporter is expressing, it's a widely held view that our allies are ticked off, that's accurate. >> well, you know, neil, i think we've probably all had the experience of dining with friends we love and yet, knowing that they have alligator arms when it comes to picking up the check. so, i think in a way, the president is not shy about challenging his friends who perhaps have dined at our table for a bit too long for what he perceives to be a lower tariff. neil: but they're angry, they're angry. >> they are. you know what the president says, this was a great press conference. he said, you know, talking about

the chinese and he says, how come nobody's talked about this before? and they said, well, you know, nobody asked. and the president is now asking. and our friends know who we are. they know we are their greatest market protector, defender of the free. they're all going to find a way to work. neil: cooler heads, in other words, will prevail? >> as a former frequent guest of cnn, i picked up on exactly what ticked the president off here and there was a subtle jab in the question, in the line of questioning, and its implication that he gets along better with a dictator, a murderous dictator in north korea than he does with our allies, and that puts aside all of the rhetoric that the president has levied against the north koreans, fire and fury and everything in between and all of that. the president is, as nan so well-- put so well is bringing north korea to the negotiation table for the first time in decades in a real way, and he's

simultaneously, 'cause he can walk and chew gum at the same time, holding our allies accountable because the time for a free lunch has passed. and there was a very clear dig at the president in that line of questioning. i picked up on it instantly just like the president did, it was obvious. neil: i think the reporter was also asking, of late, you've had nicer things to say about the leader of north korea than you have about other counterparts, leaving that aside, harlan raises a good point. whatever people see to this are we alienating our friends at a time we couldn't afford to do so. maybe as nan said, for good reason. >> i don't think he's at the point alienating our allies. and they're waking up, it's not going to be business as usual. the other countries are saying, wait a second, we may have been taking advantage of the u.s. for all of these years as nan points

out, we might be able to take advantage of the u.s. in the future, but at least this president is giving us a wakeup call that, hmmm, he's different than the past presidents. we've seen that in his interactions with north korea. we've seen that in his interactions with the press. sometimes i think that trump has about a third grade sense of humor, but i could not help burst out laughing when he said, cnn, it figures. neil: and this sort of media fixation on this stuff and by the way, we're not above that ourselves, it's rampant, but this is an example what i'm talking about, take a peek. >> he's punishing our allies and not showing much respect. >> it's alarming to cover an american president on the world stage engaged at a summit where he's not exactly welcome and, you know, seen as somebody who is leading the world. >> pushing away allies, by the way, allies we fight and die with. >> under trump, america first is

turning out to be america alone. >> you have the american president basically seeking to blow up a summit in which he's long played and is expected to play the leading role. neil: julie, hearing all of that and the risks the president is taking, you say what? >> you know, i think it is a-- as you said, some of these issues have been raised by this network and other networks and i think it's jarring, honestly, to be looking at the president's interactions with our allies and with our enemies and to not have the tenor of those to be largely indistinguishable from each other. so, there's niceties with kim jong-un and there are these bellicose moments and they're fighting words and niceties with macron and trudeau and moments where it's very aggressive and sort of threatening these trade wars. so, it is, i think, jarring and unexpected not to say that things might need to change and not necessarily that we can't expect to mra i--

play by the same rules, but it's alarming to distinguish that's the way we talk to our enemies and that's the way we at that you can to our friends and it seems similar and with regard to the specifics, cnn, the which that particular question was phrased, but him automatically saying, cnn just the worst, the worst, and this-- and we can certainly be-- >> you know, i might stand alone. i don't have a problem with the question. i know the question and the tone and he's very good at answering that, but leaving that aside, you raise a very good point and many said about the same about barack obama when he was negotiating with the cubans and it is what it is. but leaving that aside, i do wonder about the overtures to russia and having them being a part of the g8 and the russians at the g8 a better than the group of clowns, he didn't say

that. he did say he liked the times four or five years ago and when russia was in the g8 and he knew very well why russians were kicked off because of crimea. and he said we had a reason for that, that i understand, but if i were president at the time they invaded crimea in the first place, it would have had a different result. paraphrasing, but i raise it to general boiken, does that mean we would have raised arms for the ukrainians? that was our regret. >> i think we with all regret that russia was able to some-- stomp into crimea. neil: so we kicked him out of the club. >> the president is the first negotiator. neil: the markets is up, is what he's doing, and gary, does that continue? the wind at his back, the

market's economy. >> i was looking at almost every metric. i think this is the greatest economy since frankly under the clinton years. neil: that continues and that's why the leaders are still sucking up to him. >> if the president's approval rating continues another 5% and based on successes he's realizes in the economy and terms of foreign policy, we're not going to have a blue wave in the midterms. neil: do you see that as too early to say that? >> i do. neil: it's too early to say. >> i think it's too early to say. neil: harlan. >> 50%, amazing. >> is that so? i think there's-- >> too early? >> i think it's too early to say ang i think there's an enormous amount of energy. neil: we'll take a quick break and more after this. nobody does it better. he also loves swiping picnic baskets. hee, hee, hee yoooogiiiiiii!! but when it comes to mortgages, he's less confident. here, yogi.

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dairy, we do the same thing with sugar here in the united states. the sugar industry is highly protected. and currently we have the candy industry and of course, the sugar rates because they're protected, so, not a lot of sugar can come into the united states. so, it's one of those areas that we certainly want to have lower tariffs and deal with those individual industries that are very specific and sensitive like dairy or sugar here in the united states. neil: so, what do you think of the posture the president's taken to play tough on our partners in trade, not in all cases, but enough that it has to be addressed? >> well, certainly, i think he's right that we do need to address any inequalities that we have in relationships, no if's, no but's, but i think we need to treat our allies in a very different way, and i'm talking about the nafta countries like

canada and mexico and put a lot more pressure on where the real deficits are, trade deficits, like china and other countries. this is why nafta is important because ts what we need to negotiate because if we start slapping tariffs on our friends, in my opinion, that's not good business. neil: the president's long-term goal is a world without tariffs and subsidies and we touched on the outset. is that ever something you could see happening that this will lead to that and that products fight in the open market based on how good they are? >> you know, charlie, that is the goal that we need to all go through what we can lower the tariffs and if you look around, tariffs have been reduced in many areas, but it's not only the tariffs, but it's also the non-tariff barriers. sometimes if we can reduce tariffs, but there are some barriers that are not tariffs in nature that will prohibit or slow things down from coming in. for example, saying, well, we

want to send beef to, let's say south korea, but they're saying that there's a question of the health of the cattle going in, that will slow it down and focusing on tariff and nontariff barriers. can we get it down to zero? on a lot of products, but just like the sugar industry and other industries, there will be certain sensitivities that will have to be negotiated. neil: congressman, nancy pelosi has been critical of this president, certainly of the tax cuts and now, even the economic news that i think those on both sides of the aisle would say is pretty inarguably good. and even the employment report, record low of 3.8%. what did you think of that? >> you know, charlie, if you look at the long-term-- the last ten years, let's start off december of 20--

of 2008 we were losing 750,000 jobs a year under the bush administration and it went through a rough time during the obama and then we started seeing movement and that movement started with the obama administration and it's continued through, during the trump administration, and in my opinion, whether it's the republican or democratic administration, we should wish the united states to be strong and continue to grow. neil: well, she wasn't and she isn't. so, do you, as a democrat, but more importantly, maybe just as an american, find that to be fair? now, many of your colleagues are saying, look, you can't argue with success here no matter what do you think of the president, no matter what you think of republicans, these numbers are what they are, they're pretty good and go and argue with him on a variety of levels, but that's fine. not on that one, she's hurting democrats' cause and hurting their pitch, what do you say? >> well, i'll say that during the obama administration my republican colleagues were saying the same thing about

obama, you know. unfortunately sometimes certain people don't want to give the other side the credit like republicans didn't give obama credit and there are some people that might not give trump the credit. neil: you're doing it right now. you're going back to that same old game and you want that to stop, right? >> well, you know, my thing has always been is, i want the united states to grow, whether it's a democratic or republican administration. i think we need to wish the united states well because we want our economy to be well, that it's doing well, unemployment will go down and jobs will be created and not only at, you know, the ceo's, but i want the working class to make sure that they keep rolling-- >> the most recent unemployment report tells you that? >> you know, the unemployment report, like i said, it went from a high ten years ago and it's been-- it's been going down and again, we're now at an area where the unemployment is good, even in my

area on the border area where sometimes we've had high unemployment, we've seen that high unemployment go down for several reasons, one of them had as been trade and this is why we need to make sure that we negotiate nafta and not walk away from our friends like canada and mexico. neil: all right. well, see, that's a separate argument as i'm sure you're aware. sir, thank you for joining me on a saturday. >> thank you, have a good weekend. neil: you, too, congressman. the golden state warriors did it again, nba champs yet again, as far as a white house visit is concern, maybe not. >> dreman green all season long kept quoting john wooden.

>> did the nfl go too far? >> in my opinion, yeah, i think so. >> why? >> you know what, you don't want to do it, get off your knee. >> he's become a cult sensation, the father of of course, player

alo alonzo and good to have you. >> thanks for having me, man, i appreciate it. neil: i was thinking of you because now, after, you know, the big victory last night and the question is, well, will this winning basketball team get a chance to go to the white house? already we've heard from key players, including stephen cu y curry, they don't want to go. what do you think of the dust-up? >> i don't feel you have to go to anybody's house if you don't want to. if i invite you to my house and you don't want to come, that's on you, you shouldn't have to come. neil: what if i just showed up at your house anyway and said, let me in, it's neil. >> that depends, you being cavuto, i might let you in. some of the other guys-- >> yeah, you might have your doubts. the president is saying, look, it should be an honor to come to the white house, it normally is.

i don't know where this started turning or the controversy started building, but, where do you think of where we stand right now? >> well, as long as the character of the guy. his character is not too good. i'm talki about trump, you know, me and him don't have a good relationship on the fact that he tried to say something about me that he helped me out and stuff like that. if he invited me to his house i'd be like, no, man. i'm not even going to invite him to my house. neil: so you have a problem with the president. he would come back and say, well, when your son was in some trouble, i helped them get out of the pickle and it came to, you know the authorities keep them there longer. >> and everybody found out that that was a lie and now his character is flawed. neil: so you don't like the president. it's your free right. now, let me ask you a little about this whole dust-up over the national anthem, whether you should stand or kneel, some players are making a stink of it

that they're being told what to do. >> it used to be a sporting event we want to see who wins or loses, we don't want to see who is standing and kneeling. everybody has been standing for a long time and now there's a controversy, people want to kneel. it should be about who wants to stand and who wants to kneel, it should be be the sporting event and it shouldn't be a political thing. you're not making them do anything, do it or not. if you've got like myself. jva, stand up, kneel, what he ever i want them to do and i prefer they might want to kneel so they can get some rest in my league. neil: do you think that the president's fondness for dennis rodman, he likes him, thinks he's a smart guy, you don't agree with that. >> who said that dennis rodman

is a smart guy? >> the president. >> hey, hey, like they say, they flock together, two nuts. neil: okay. i knew you weren't a fan of the president. what's your beef with dennis rodman? >> what's my beef with dennis rodman? nothing, he's just a nut. he doesn't know what to do with himself. he's irrelevant right now so's trying to do something, anything, he don't think before he talks, he just blurts out stuff. i ain't got no beef with him i just call em like i see em. neil: the fact that he's in-- so close to the north korean leader and the north korean leader likes him, has a long history with them. some said that rodman was lurking behind the scenes to arrange this meeting. i think that's a bit of a stretch. kind of weird. >> it's a bit of a stretch. everybody likes a sense of amusement. if you can keep a clown on deck to have some fun, you might as well. neil: okay. by the way, did you really say,

i was doing research on you, in a one-on-one with michael jordan in your best days you could have beaten him? >> come on, you know i would, he needed help. >> michael jordan. >> the game is five on five. one on one, i'd be the champion of the world like i told you, undefeated. neil: michael jordan? >> michael jordan. too easy. he's light weight. neil: okay. >> can't handle me one-on-one, too much for him. neil: i wanted hear from from you directly. >> you're looking at the michael jordan name. neil: yeah, maybe that's it. >> you'll a bad son of a gun, i'm going to tell you. neil: i'm so happy you said son of a gun. >>. look at the time. you were great, i enjoyed having you on, terrific. best of luck. >> i enjoyed having you on. neil: okay. [laughter] >> fair enough. we have a lot more following up on that. the latest on hawaii's volcano

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everything. what's in your wallet? >> all right. there continues to still blow, this volcano in hawaii knows no end and no bounds and right now they say it's limited, but you never know. for people looking at the state and leary about the state and maybe some perspective from the congresswoman from the state. congresswoman gabbard. thanks for taking the time. >> thanks, neil, aloha. neil: what's the latest? >> the volcano is continuing to erupt in the lower portion of the island. it's a very big island and known as the big island in this area, that's affected is ten square miles. the volcano started out as a few separate eruptions in the

leilani su leilani subdivision, it's taken out over 600 homes causing pooh em to evacuate leaving uncertainty because there's no way of knowing when this eruption, when this active eruption and flow will stop. neil: i'm wondering, and maybe it brought it more to mind, congresswoman after this guatamala earthquake that that stunned a lot of people as did the original count as those affected by it originally killed, 37 and now up to 110. another 200 missing, so those numbers could climb mightily. do you look at that and look at what's happening here and say, wait a minute, the same could happen here? >> well, it's a testament to the community there in to our local civil defense, our national card and first responders on the

ground and people tracking this close to the geologists there in hawaii. they're doing their best to see, okay, where is the next election goi going-- eruption going to happen and we have not had a single loss of life as a result of that. now, the two kind of geological situations surrounding what's happening in hawaii and what happened in guatemala are different, in my understanding, but there are certainly dangers of the situation in hawaii escalating based on the number of high impact earthquakes that we continue to have. there was another one that just happened less than an hour ago in hawaii so that's affecting the activity of the volcano and where the eruptions are occurring. neil: and it's also affected a lot of people's interest in going to the big island at all and some visiting hawaii at all. that might be extreme, but royal

caribbean, and princess cruise lines, and norwegian stopped to the island. ishat justified? >> no, the fact that there are many islands in the state and the island where the active eruption is occurring is largely unaffected by the kilauea volcano, again, the area that's impacted is roughly ten square miles in lower puna. the island itself is over 4,000 square miles. my understanding is norwegian is going to begin their cruise stops on hawaii island starting next week, really in recognition, whether you're in hilo or kona or anywhere else in the island. it's safe for people to go and visit. i want to mention before we go that one of the biggest causes of stress, obviously, is people losing their homes, losing their farms, losing their livelihoods and really the uncertainty how to begin again and there are so many local people who are really heroes. the community is standing up to help each other.

just this morning in hawaii in a few hours they're going to be having a blessing for a lot full of tiny houses they're building to help families who have nowhere else to go, led by a local businessman, gathering fellow business owners and the county and national guard and they've been spending the last few days building tiny houses now where families will be able to find shelter as they figure out the way ahead. neil: we wish you well and your constituents well through this. congresswoman, thank you very, very much. >> thank you, neil. neil: take a look at what's going on in canada right now. the president getting ready. marine one right now arriving to take the president air force one, and his irk had -- historic trip to meet with the north korean leader. the president said, an interesting line of questioning and responses from the commander-in-chief about how he

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>> all right. it's not my party, but i'll leave if i want to. the president wrapping up quite early that visit to canada for the g-7 summit. he's moving on to singapore. the original plans were that the president was going to stay for the duration of the canadian event, but, obviously, a little trade war potentially ensued and then maybe more prep time for singapore. bottom line, he's leaving early, marine one and has asked to air force one for the very, very long trip across the world to make history or at least have a

historic sit-down with the leader of north korea. we-- the president would quickly be able to sum up whether it's a productive event. from carnegie mellon university, good things read of all things national development. the president was saying he thinks he'll know right away whether the talks are productive. >> the president knows what he wants and of course, we know that he wants a completely denuclearized north korean peninsula, but he does understand, as he said in the past week or so, since the north korean talks re'merged, as happening on june 12th, that this will be a process and i think he will be looking for markers of success early on in the process. perhaps, the commitment to finally ending the korean war,

which is in an armistice state since 1953. perhaps it means some early signs by the north korean regime that it will take measures to denuclearization without the complete commitment happening at that meeting. so there are a number of things without the ambitious proliferation measure that the president would ultimately like to seek, but if none of those measures happen i think he's going to look at his options which include walking away from the talks. neil: all right. one of those options is go with you gut. it's served him well, some hot water sometimes. but whether to keep him happy or keep a distance. i'm wondering what you made of

that and his call to eventually remove all tariffs and subsidies worldwide, this in the phase of his own threat to hike 25% when it comes to steel. what do you make of it? >> the g-7 summit coming as a, kind of forerunner to the north korean meeting to me is fascinating. what we're seeing, actually, is the beginning of the n new architecture of the 21st foreign policy. jetsonning 70 years of practices the united states allowed to take place in order to rebuild europe, to rebuild asia, to bring friends along. i think what he's trying to do is square the circle, make some important concessions on tariffs, but saying that trade is really being revised. if you saw that press conference where he had larry kudlow take the center stage, they talked about free trade is our commitment. we just need to revise it in a

fairer, more balanced approach and i believe that's what he was seeking to achieve at the g20 summit. it's not perfect and he's willing to make concessions and that's what i saw in that meeting. neil: he also regretted that russia was kicked out, leaving aside the reasons for russia getting kicked out, invasion of crimea and all that, four or five years ago, he wants it in. says that a g8 with russia is better than the g-7 that it is now, do you agree? >> i half agree and half disagree. let me start with the disagreement point. russia has violated european sovereignty, the sovereignty of another nation. it's violated international norms and what we've come to understand of a rule-based international system by invading crimea and snatching it, and militarizing that region further. so, in that way, i think it was fair to basically expel it from

this, you know, the world's premier global economic forum. on the other side, the president has a strong argument, that we have to bring russia along. we doesn we don't want russia to be further isolated in the international system from the big discussions of economics and security and so in that way, he has a point, but we do have to take seriously the western commitment to the sovereign rights of nations. neil: well-said. thank you very much, very, very good seeing you. >> thank you. neil: joining us on a saturday, from beautiful san francisco. well, it all goes down, big night, tuesday night, and of course, it really begins monday, our team, which is why you'll catch us 9 p.m. on fox business, we're all night long. we're doing this for 24 hours straight. we are going to be following this every tick. way, getting foreign market reaction because your money, as

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>> president trump wrapping up his meeting with g-7 leaders in quebec, calling the talks, quote, very successful and says the days of robbing the u.s., quote, piggy bank with trade barriers needs to. leland: the past minutes of president trump flying out east for his first ever meeting with kim jong-un in singapore. we're on the ground in singapore with last minute preparations before the big sit-down. elizabeth: plus, brand new indictments friday on robert mueller's investigation, yet again targeting the president's former campaign chairman.