are very grateful as always. that is our hero for tonight. most-watched, most trusted mos grateful you spent the evening with us, good night from ♪ shington, i'm shannon bream. >> tucker: fox's catherine herridge is ing tonight that rob rosenstein threatened to subpoena email and phone records from the house intelligence committee in january. it's an explosive story and we will ask the attorney general about it in just a minute. good evening and wcome to tucker carlson. the first ever meeting between a sitting american president and the north korean leader has finished. at president trump and kim jong umet one another in singapore and put their names ot a new deal whicheeks to reducete for that, go to chief correspondent ed henry who is in singapore right now. >> reporter: president trump came, he saw, and he got a dealr

despite all the naysayers trying to talk down the possibility of american success before, during and after these talks. the president tonight in fact is going to go on offense and tryr to sell this deal on hannity t next hour, telling fox that kim jong un will start denuclearization virtuallyn immediaty with the documents that they sign here, which he said could save millions of lives by preventing nuclear war. remarkable, coming just weeks after north korea again ed a cont. during one of their walks together, kim was erheard through his interpreter telling the president that these pictures were so surreal that any in the world will quote think of this as a form of fantasy from a science-fiction movie movie. democrats like chuck schumer t e warning that t may be an actual fantasy since kim made no specific commitmente to get rid of his nukes while the president promised to end joint military exercises with south korea and that has some of our allies concerned. republicans like senator john kennedy think that

on balance, this was a good agreement.. they say working with kim is like hand-feeding a shark. you can do it, but you have to do it very, very carefully. tucker? >> tucker: great metaphor. thanks, ed. is the new deal with north korea actually a deal that is good for the united states? can we trust the north koreans to follow it? doug mcgregor is here, the representative of the state of nebraska also joins us tonight. congressman, first to you. is this a deal that americans ought to be happy about? >> the best word that i could use to describe the last few days is stunning.ns it's almost unimaginable given where we were just six months ago where we were on the precipice of some type of even potential nuclear exchange. s the president has leaned into something pretty radical here

and perhaps it's a new architecture for 21st-centuryd diplomacy. has said to kim jong un, wewilr for ill.l. it's for ill, we will hurt you. if it's good, it will create the space for perhaps authentic dialogue and friendship and i think he accomplished that. he has rejected the norms of ossified proceduralism and stagnation that govern so many international affairs and he took a bold risk and delivered something very important. it's an important and good fir step. >> tucker: ossified proceduralism. that's a phrase i'm stealing. colonel, are you as optimistic? >> extreme, i think this is donald trump's finest hour, and i'm serious. donald trump has recognized something that others have refused to seat for a very long time in washington.d it's not simply that north korea is on the ropes, it is. it's on the verge of collapse. donald trump understood that and

he also went to great lengths ia his meetings with the president xi, treated them as equals. i think donald trump understand something that was not well understood in the pentagon at this point or in many other places in washington and that our competition with china is essentially economic and technologic and not military. that was the key development because without china none of this would have happened.heca w >> tucker: and it clearly stand with what he said about trade from china. congressman, there's been a lot of trade stomach criticism of this deal from the left, with the idea that the president has been giving away things in exchange for nothing. speak out this is the combination of foreign realism and entrepreneurial diplomacy.

as i said, ts is not just potentially preventing a confli and rejecting a stalemate of the last 65 years with north korea, but it also could signal a new way, a new architecture for diplomatic relations moving forward. the world is screaming for some type of new interpersonal echo system both in our homes and communities, as well as between nations. what that means is you have to have the ability to reach out and provide authenticityon and dialogue and create some space. the world is racing towards destructive technology, and then what? lizationtself at stake and we have to find a way towards mutuality, well-being and mutual security. otherwise we don't have much hope. >> tker: colonel, liberals and some conservatives by the way criticized that you meet

with someone who is morally out-of-bounds, like kim jong un. going forward, should we be willing to meet with anybody? >> absolutely. donald trump is a disruptive force, let's be frank. lots of people in this town are upset because it threatens to change the distribution of cash. it threatens the cash, it threatens its support structures. other things he recognized early on when he was campaigning. south korea is a powerful stateg rea and he recognizeds that japan is in the same position. if japan raises its investment in the military power by just 1%, japan will be number three in the world in terms of defense budget. he understands that what northeast asia wants and needs is stability, order and prosperity, not war. he has the agreement of everyone who counts in the region.

>> tucker: that's an amazing statistic about japan, by the way. colonel, congressman, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> tucker: what effect will this have on the rest of asia? a meaningful question for the rest of the world and michael pillsbury is the director of may be the single best book called he 100ears mar dr. michael pillsbury joins us tonight. what effect, michael pillsbury, does this have on the rest of asia right now? >> it doesn't have much effect until more is revealed by president trump on the what next steps. he has sensecretary pompeo to beijing. i myself have heard from the chese already thathey are taking credit for this. they are a little bit hurt that president trump did not give them any credit when he was in singapore.id

they feel they sent the blame, ey vot for the secit council resolutions three times and made the top for sanctionst in history. they all but pushed chairman kim into this, and here is their friend donald trump not tipping his hat to them. but the president, as you know, is not finished talking ab >>ke tthof the chinese bureaus having a heart and with his feelings hurt, that's interesting.>> >> i'm going to beijing tomorrow so i have to be careful what i say, tucker. but the reaction in asia depends on how much concern they had about any given country that had about any weapons in north korea. this is not really a topic, they

are much more concerned about the south china sea. as the u.s. really going to have some ships that go inside the 12-mile boundary, and then have helicopter operations or swerve around and not request innocent ag under the law of the sea, if you do that, i going to dispute thim. we don't do swerng turns her lunch helicopters. so we are recognizing the chinese claim at the same time't we are mildly challenging. in taiwan, we are still waiting for the f-16 replacements. they asked f5 f-16 fighter is about ten years ago. and they let up to deputy secretary of state, to give these jet fighters -- they are for sale, not fully gifts. so what is the future? any ve a ser issu they want to hear more about. so the north korea issue, as you know well tucker, is about the

usual estates feeling to kind of a crazy person with h bombs and that seems to be taken care of. so americans can be happy. we can admire president trump, something for us. the rest of asia is awaiting a broader asia strategy and president trump is working on that, that's what his team has been telling me. >> tucker: i would be worried if i was in taiwan. thank you very much. the press was upset about president trump's overly of aggressive posture toward v north korea, others claim he is too friendly for north korea. try to make sense of that, next. ♪ ♪

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>> tucker: it was just a few months ago that president trump was fear to start a war. yesterday summit, the president was friendlier and so was msnbc. >> it is not knowable that we will ever know. >> because both men are n and established liars. >> i would say is somewhat disgusting, it's actually a debasement of the american flag. >> donald trump can relate to an authoritarian. as a former businessman, he likes absolute control. >> tucker: and the friends heri

continued over washington host over at the washington host. pro activist max boot dismissed it as something that any u.s. prior resident could have achieved, although none did. damon linker said that even a successful summit would be bad because it would improve trump's approval ratings and that quote could only be considered positive if you think it's a good thing for our mendacious, hapless, impetuous, racist president to enjoy an unprecedented boost to his popularity. in other words, if it works,et that's bad because trump will benefit. so you have been watching the coverage, joe, sum it for us. >> that last line is interesting because it sounds like bill marr on friday night. bring on the recession even if it cripples families across the country because that would be the only thing that could keep trump from being reelected.

and by the way, mar is worth something like $100 million and gets 10 million a year. so when trump is gone, who cares if we go to war, as long as liberals triumph, that's allll that matters. i noticed that montage is very interesting. layed nicole wallace, she was the communications director. i heard jeremy bash who was in the obama administration. what do all these people havee n common. they failed miserably in stopping their north korea nuclear program. if you have to ask yourself this very question, why are we listening to these people? they failed in iran.on depending on the administration, and they are depended upon as experts because they have an agenda and want to protect the legacy of their bosses for themselves. it would be like turning to jack kevorkian to teach a class in

the heimlich maneuver. it's a complete contradiction. [laughter] >> tucker: could not be said in so many issues where analyst on televisions are failing on policies projected by voters. why with their contempt be baked in? and that's actually exceeding in this case. i can't say whether it's success or not, because it's very broadg strokes. we are in the first out or ofan the first inning. to your point earlier, with another guest, think of where w. were in august when president trump said that north korea will see fire and fury like the world has never seen. if you go back and read those headlines, you are on the precipice of world war iii.

we had actual maps of what nuclear missiles could hit los angeles, chicago andnd new york.to think of where we were then and where we are now in terms of talking to this leader. progress, no matter how you try to spin it. that has to be seen as progress except it's not presented that way because there is always a reflex to the negative even in the most obvious situation where there wasn't many negative n things to complain about when you put it into full context. >> tucker: very quickly, is there any indication that any of these self-described experts know anything about north korea at all? >> joe: i don know if many people know much about north korea. how many of them have actually been there? any journalist or any expert ino this regard? i would say no. when you have a clinton, bush and obama administration that failed over 25 years doing the same thing in terms of nice talt and appeasement and somebody else comes in and does something different, you are in no position whatsoever to complaink about these things. and that's a final point i want

to make, tucker. y we are good in this business about complaining about stuff and that's all i've heard over the last 48 hours. when you are watching this coverage, listen for this. is anybody offering an alternative or a solution as to what they would do as opposed to what they have witnessed over the last 48 hours? because i haven't seen it yet, tucker. >> tucker: how about stand back and be amazed? because it is amazing. >> you are a guest used stunning, and that's correct. >> tucker: jeff sessions just reversed an obama era policy that promoted immigration. he also responded to a remarkable new story. fox news is reporting that rob rosenstein, deputy ag, threatened republicans on the house floor. that's next. rosenstein, deputy , threatened republicans on it took guts to start my business. but as it grew bigger and bigger, it took a whole lot more. that's why i switched to the spark cash card from capital one.

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january 10, deputy general rosenstein went up and met with members of the house intel committee, had a dispute with them and threatened them with a subpoena of their emails and phone records. this is what one of them said it, i read it as a not so veiled threat to release full prosecutorial power of the state against us. the doj background has confirmed what was that about?this did >> i don't know that they have confirmed that exactly. in fact, the fbi director, the senior ethics committee say is a mischaracterization, really, of what occurred. also, i think it indicates that there has been a breakdown of relationships, when in fact, since january, a great deal of progress has been made. we understand in this department that we are accountable to congress and we need to be produce as many documents as

tionally, legally and properly as can be producing them, and we have made dramatic progress in that r >> tucker: did the deputy attorney general threatened to a subpoena on the email or phone records of members of the house intel committee? >> i was not in the room and i cannot speak to what occurred. all i can say is that the people -- the director of the fbi at our senior ethics attorney was there and others and they did not see that in the same fashion. >> tucker: so as a factual matter, you don't think that happened? >> i'm confident that deputy rosenstein after 28 years and the department of justice did not improperly threaten anyone on that occasion. but we do believe that we have tried to be cooperative with

them and made progress in months, as the months have gone by. in fact, we have had some good relationships with the members of congress. >> tucker: okay. so you have made news recently by undoing an obama era rule about asylum-seekers. give us the overview. i think most americans like the idea that this can be a haven for people suffering around the world. lots of people claim asylum, what do we know about the veracity of their claims? >> that's a good question. seven years ago, 5,000 people applied for asylum claiming a credible fear of being at home in their home country, and they needed to flee that country. that number jumped to 94,000 in just seven years. it is overwhelming our system. over 80% of those claims are being denied by the immigration judges as being not meritorious. so it is a big problem for us. each one of those is requiring

trials and factual decisions by our judges. we are going to add 100 judges, and that may yet not be enough judges to handle the cases. we need to get the judge is better guidance, go back to the fundamental principles, laws and rules of the immigration and nationalization act. if we do that, then we are in a position where some of these cases can be promptly decided. we do not get to come to america if you have a private threat or someone personally attacks you. you do not get to have asylum for that, based on your race, religion or nationality, that you are part of some special identifiable group that has been persecuted in your home country. that's what it takes to have asylum and i think it will help us. at the decision i made, i believe it's right legally and

i'm totally confident it's consistent with the intent of the drafters of the ina, our law. i believe it will help us manage our caseloads better and give more focus to the people who deserve to be given asylum and help us eliminate those who are not worthy of the asylum. >> tucker: with over 80% of the applications are fraudulent, there's obviously a problem. so they have also recently weighed in with the question of speech on campus. what can the department of justice sure that people's first amendment rights are protected? and why has it taken until 2018 to get the doj involved? >> it's one of the big challenges of our time, i have to believe, and it's almost unbelievable that major colleges and universities will be taking action that restricts the right of free speech on a college campus. we have the authority on the law to file a statement of interest

in ongoing litigion. so cases are being filed against the universities by students who complain. if we think thents are meritorious, then we can file a statement of interest joining with them, and explain why we at the department of justice think these concerns are real and justified, and court relief is appropriate. we have had some success. we have had two cases where there has been a major change in the college and university's actions, and two cases where the judge has dismissed or rejected a motion to dismiss these cases by the universities, and allowing the trial to go forward. we think it is a very important thing. students should be participating in robust debate, they ought to not be intimidated, they ought to not be driven by political correctness, to where you can't even speak up in class or on

campus. >> tucker: it does -- what an upside down world it is when the attorney general is defending against liberals. thank you. thank yith you. >> tucker: ms-13 gang members are menacing kids in schools. why are so many determined to defend them? that's next.

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fights, sell drugs and rape fellow students. teachers say they fear being alone with some of these kids and also fears saying anything about it because speaking out could cost them their jobs. the tragedy can almost be traced entirely to the immigrationhe pocy but, most crushed the conversation by screaming "racist." jose ristamuno is former dnc press secretary. thank you for coming on. what i found ironic about themi story was, this is the third iteration of the ms-13 story. first we were told it was a figment of their imagination. then we were told to attack them and call them names is immoral. and then are we allowed to acknowledge they are terrorizing the students or are we bigots for doing so?

>> if you are undocumented in this country, if you are a a criminal including being a member of ms-13, we don't want you in this country and you should be deported.nt part of the issue here is people like yourself and some republicans want to pinpoint ans simply say, because your first name is jose, or you are latino, like me, you are automatically and ms-13 gang member.r. >> tucker: you are a ridiculous person for saying that, i have never suggested anything like that and it's appag thatd sa you are speaking a lie, and not for the first time. what i said was what i read in "the washington post" which is self identified members are destroying the school.d i bet you never send your kids to that school.. those people being in thisth country because it fits in that demographic that you approve of. the truth is, it's a disaster. >> if you are and ms-13 gang member and you are undocumented, you should be deported.

>> tucker: then why have you consistently attacked anybody -- yeah right, nobody has said thas the majority of immigrants are criminals or bad, i don't say that and i don't think it. >> the president has said that. >> tucker: he has not said that. you are lying for political gain as always. h what i have said is that we don't know anything aboutt people coming in. there are 20 million of them living here, we don't know the background, and some of them are bad people. >> would pass comprehense imgration reform, we legalize it the majority of people and it will be a whole lot easier, tucker, to look for the realm, criminals after we legalize the good ones, don't you think so? >> tucker: it's hilarious that that solution comports exactly your political goal. >> give me a break. >> tucker: you tell me rationally, how, if illegal

immigration, the inability of the u.s. government to show who is living within its borders is the problem, how encouraging more of it which is what amnesty would do is the solution? that's not something they are interested in solving. >> so your answer and many republicans answer is to deport the immigrants in the country. >> tucker: we are guessing at that number. some people think it's 20 million. >> okay, 20 million deported. >> tucker: when wage growth has been stagnant and the cost of everything is growing much faster than the wages, you need to stop the abilities ofos employers to hire cheaper peoplt because they are here illegally. >> tucker: if you took this seriously, and you were bigger than the political issue -- >> tucker: you know nothing about it. >> i know more than you.

>> tucker: why would an employer in this country be allowed to hire someone a illegally, depressing wages for american citizens? >> you want to fix that problem? reform the system and legalize the people that are already here. >> tucker: you could do it tomorrow.he should employers be allowed to hire illegal aliens? tell me why they should be allowed to do that. a >> we have two choices. the point of 14 million or 20 million or whatever the number or we legalize them and get them into the system so we can get them out of the shadows. >> tucker: i don't have time for conversations with people who don't know what they are talking about and haven't thought it through and want toto points and call anyone whoing disagrees, a racist. which is what you did in the first segment. thank you. you are pathetic. bill clinton was one of the savviest politicians in american history, but he can't stop destroying himself with his own mouth.

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♪ >> tucker: in a recent interview with pbs, clinton pointed out it's a lot harder to sexually harass people theset days than it used to be back then, and ourse he would know. watch. >> i think the norms have really changed in terms of what you can do to somebody against their will, how much you can crowd their space, how much you can make them miserable at work.k. >> tucker: tammy bruce is a new york radio show host, and she joins us.rk it has changed, i guess you used to be able to do a lot of things

against people's will. >> hillary may be sharing the chardonnay with her husband, i'm not sure. and this is what the most people have remarked on. for bill clinton it was normal to do things to people against their will. but this is a news flash. unless you are back in the bronze age, maybe not even then, the american revolution kind of made it that everybody had some rights and we became a betters country. and the end good news is at the recent modern era, we have learned that we can't do anything to people against their will. it's a concept of course of law and order. so we have managed to achieve that and it was applied when hes was president. apparently he wasn't aware of that. but it tells you, and this is what is revealing about bill clinton. it started as a compulsion to confess. the fact is, they knew then that

they really couldn't. the difference was, they got away with it and they protected each other. i think for both he and his wife, they want that era back. they want the times back, the good old days, when in fact they could do whatever they wanted.k. i think this- it wasreac comfortable and controlled for very few of the top. it's very nerve-racking for those who cultivated that era to have this cult of islam arise where the american people, women and people of color and gays, we want the constitution to be clear. we want that conservative ideal. a lot of people don't realize it's a conservative ideal, to live lives that best suit us without having -- without being attacked and without needing to deal with people like harvey weinstein and bill clinton.

>> tucker: i think that's exactly right. it has been at least the bronze age. somodern thing. so you may have seen the rant at the tony awards by actor robert de niro.o. canada.owed up by apologizing to >> i just want to make a note of apology for the idiotic behavior of my president. it is a disgrace and i apologize to justin trudeau. >> tucker: and the president tweeted that in response.

many shots to the head by real boxers and movies. i guess he doesn't realize that our economy is at its best, and many economies pouring back into our country. wake up, punchy! >> is like that in between north korea tweets. the world is changing, he is bringing world peace and jimenez to get that thing in there about uncle punchy. i think you have gone from raging bull to whining grandpa at this point. it is a shame, fabulous actor and an american icon that has really declined, and it seems like with a lot of people there is jealousy that is rooted in the attacks on the president. there you got with that thing he is doing there with his arms, this is a man who is not secure within his own manhood.

and for the american people in general, we appreciate the success. saving lives and, if we can save 30 million people, of course you can stand on the stage with this guy. it's ironic and they accused thl president of being indecent, and they show every day their indecency. the american people see this for what it is, i think. >> tucker: everything is irony, for sure. tammy, great to have you. up next, a follow-up to what was a pretty amazing story out of the faa. the faa last week has created a new test for selecting air o traffic controllers that gives points for relevant criteria. itut that the faa has at test.alier about cheating on our investigation of their dangerous hiring practices continues, after the break.

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what's in your wallet? >> tucker: we told you repeatedly over the last couple of weeks that the faa, which is in charge of your safety when you traves altered its merit based hiring testing for air traffic controllers, adding in a bogus biographical questionnaire to the process. the new test is not enough, they are seeking out the unqualified intentionally. but even more worrisome than i that is the fact that the faa apparently didn't care if people cheated on their already watered-down test. in 2016, the department of transportati found tha national black coalition of employees had given their members guidance on how to answer the questionnaire.ow in other words the group help them cheat by giving them the correct answers ahead of time.

despite that no one was ever charged, and in fact one union member connected to the cheating appears to be still employed by the faa. michael pearson is a former air traffic controller, he's an tion surunding the faaolved in hiring practices. he joins us tonight. michael pearson, thanks for coming on. this is such a strong allegation, how do you know that it's absolutely true. >> i have been involved in this sense it actually began compass as i with the purging of the folks that were watching your show, you remember you had thousands of people on the list that were qualified including with military experience and aviation experience. it all of a sudden was purged, l and the faa's words and they were forced to go through this biographical questionnaire.ur so for thet several years, including litigation of my firm, we have been able to dig up information through the freedom

of information act process as well as the litigation process. not only do we have internal people tell us this was going on, but they were afraid if they came forward the faa would penalize them. now we have actual documentary evidence that substantiates our worst fears. >> tucker: so the union helped people cheat on the test. again, just to put this in coo become air trafficrol aviation, millions use it everym year. and yet no one was ever charged for that, why? >> it wasn't aon, it was an employee group. the national black coalition of federal aviation employees, that certainly did that. it was a process started from early 2012 through 2013. there was a group within that

organization who determined that the makeup of the workforce was too white and they wanted to get a more diverse w they lobbied through the political force, which they are allowed to come up but then they then crafted this exam.or the scoring group actually penalize people with aviation experience. and to make it worse, they had folks stand in line for this test and they coached other people how to pass the test. not only were the bestnd brightest actually purged off of the list, they were then forced through a screening process that discriminated against them. so most if not the great majority of them failed that exam. people were given the answers on how to pass the test and even more important, recent documen show that when this individual i

was interviewed, he gave a written statement saying that he didn't do that.vi then he went to a verbal interview with the d.o.t. investigator. the d.o.t. oig investigator allowed him to see witness statements contradicting that, and then allowed him to go out of the room with his attorney and changed his story.ed that is not done. anyone in law enforcement or the law from a legal side knows that that is beyond unusual. that's crafting an investigation to meet. members of congress on both sides of the aisle that were concerned about this process, and the d.o.t. oigsi investigator's final result are basically his suggestion or r recommendation was, this not be forwarded to the department of justice for criminal investigation.

you have all people and plementers anough, the facilitators are still at high levels of the faa. >> tucker: i never say this but these are people that should be in prison. >> at the doj along with the fbi should investigate what went on and what really occurred and the due process of law should really be followed. the folks in the faa at the highest management levels should be brought to justice. it's both civilly and criminally illegal to do what happened here. >> tucker: the air traffic control system in the country. if you are basically third world at that point. if you can't maintain quality at that point, you are in trouble. that's it for us tonight.

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