abby: what's coming up for us? pete: you can, better than anyone. >> celebrating father's day. abby: don't miss it. we will see you tomorrow. neil: you are looking live at the white house where the president is home and if numbers are right, he could be on a roll. the middle of a trade tussle, north korean handshake tussle and yesterday's incredible prez tussle, you saw that? we examine why all of the tussles this week changed everything and why there's explaining to do, republicans want to make next speaker just that, jim jordan is here and only here. kim jong un impressed, white house minority lawyer said north korean leader wanted everything he wanted, the u.s. not so much. sean spicer confused. the president's to cancel and

having those talks and now talking about those talks after the talk, really, yeah comments like this are all -- >> he speaks and people sit up, i want my people to do the same. neil: the president said he was joking but everyone is still talking about whether he was too nice to this guy so why not a word on how his administration took out this guy, he's also a bad guy, a very bad guy but you didn't know thanks to well-planned attack, ruthless former taliban leader is also something else, a dead guy, good thing we are very much live because we thought we would tell you all about it, not some of the news, all of the news. i know it's father's day weekend and i could be at homing relaxing, that would be wrong, selfish, relax, my kids are happy not to have me, you're welcome, america, cavuto live starts now.

♪ neil: i always love the nasty tweets. before we even start, get over yourself cavuto. that was from my wife. after the tussle, so many this past historic week, now comes the tweets, molly with the very latest from washington. molly. >> hi, neil, president trump is praising sporters today and also praising the nation's economic health or economic numbers, he said in a tweet, quote, my supporters are the smartest, strongest most hard-working and most loyal that we have seen in our country's history, it's a beautiful thing to watch as we win elections and gather support from all over the country. as we get stronger, so does the country, best numbers ever. the president likely will be interested in what's coming up next week when fbi director christopher wray and justice department inspector general michael horowitz will go before congress and answer questions. congress -- members of congress

also would like to hear from the the fbi agent and headlines, peter strzok, you remember him, one of the two married lovers, peter and lisa page. now their messages are out very publicly and they are raising questions about president obama's fbi. if it was working in essence to elect president trump and prevent donald trump from becoming president. there's this text on august before the election. lisa page says, trump is not going to become president, right, right, peter strzok says no, we will stop it. a few days later, somebody named andy, could be andrew mccabe who was fired earlier this year. i want to believe the path you threw for consideration in andy's office that there's no way he gets elected, i'm afraid we don't want to take the risk. some republicans in congress the messages need some explaining.

neil: what do you want to find out from mr. peter strzok? >> first of all, we have thousands of texts, conversations between he and lisa page that raise huge questions about the meaning of those texts, for example, he says to lisa page, we are not going let that happen with regard -- we will stop it with regard to the election of donald trump as president of the united states. well, who is we, that's one big question, right, another question is does that relate to the so-called insurance policies that he references in another text. there is a ton of that we neat from mr. peter strzok, we have been requesting him for some time now and if he is not produced we are now prepared to issue a subpoena in short order. >> the justice department inspector general referred 5 fbi employees for investigation after discovering what could be politically motivated messages and we have this from the day after the presidential election, an fbi attorney, they are all

numbered, they are not named. i'm numb, i can't stop crying, that makes me more sad like what happened, you promised me this wouldn't happen, you promised. i'm so stressed about what i could have done differently. don't stress, none of that mattered. the fbi's influence, i don't know, we broke the momentum. current fbi director says it makes clear that it did not affect the agency's work. >> what you really see is bias against millions an tens of millions of my followers, that's a disgrace. and yet if you look at the fbi and you went in and you pulled the real fbi, those guys love me and i love them. >> i take this report very seriously and we accept its findings and recommendations. it's also important, though, to note what the inspector general did not find.

this report did not find any evidence of political bias or improper considerations actually impacting the investigation under review. >> the fbi report -- sorry, ig report calls former fbi director james comey's actions extraordinary and insubordinate in handling of hillary clinton e-mail investigation. neil. neil: mollie, thank you very much. we got another tweet from the president saying that the ig report totally destroys james comey and all of his minions including lovers lisa page and peter strzok who started with the witch hunt and i'm going on here to say against so many innocent people will go down in dark and dangerous period in american history. let's get the read on all of this from attorney lisa and we have nick, also an attorney. i think you know, the former whitewater special counsel who

have an act for alienating both parties. robert, to you first and all of this that comes out of ig report. at the very least it reveals clumsy handling from james comey down but more comes up even through unnamed and unidentified parties, an an inherent by a guy that wanted to be president. >> not just inherent bias but implicit bias. the groups of words today. the forked's position, i think, has been vindicated and that, you know, that's troubling. there's also as you all suggest the colossal failure of leadership within the obama justice department and the obama administration, from the president on down. president obama in october of 2015 on a 60 minutes interview essentially said there's no there there. that had an effect spiral lg

through the justice department and you had loretta lynch making serious errors in judgment as report found the meeting with president clinton, of course, was huge mistake and she acknowledged and felt at the time. you have the assumption that hillary clinton was going to win n. the justice department at least inherent bias of trying to be protective of secretary clinton and that affected and people didn't exercise leadership, ironically to jim comey to sort of balance things out, he's the one who is most subject for criticism on all of this and as consequence among other things, loses his job. you know, look, if anything it's a colossal mess which is going

going to take a long while for the public's restoration of public confidence and the integrity of the fbi. the president is also right to say, look, in the main, the fbi does a great job. this is not while there's a colossal failure that's been identified, i don't think it's catastrophic. i think the fbi is well abled to recover. neil: most unidentified report who harbor same views and lisa maybe you can help me out with this, this unidentified fbi worker who refers to trump supporters as poor, middle-class, uneducated, lazy, and that view and others who are similarly characterized, more widespread than we are led to believe in the beginning than it was the two, peter strzok

lovers. >> so many issues to unpack with that question alone. we are learning about the digital investigation behind illustration of the messages themselves in saying the fbi didn't have access to the right tools and only now we are seeing the messages between the lovers on trump's campaign. neil: do you think any of this came to light to bob mueller before the texts came to light? once he got those two named individual texts, peter strzok was off the case? how do we know that? were i would be shocked to find out that he wasn't aware of any sort of bias beforehand and this just isn't indirect, direct explicit bias and the report itself, the ig is reminiscent of comey's own report that clinton herself was really -- it was so negative and then the conclusion itself was still no problem, no indictment and in this ig report the laundry list of all the text messages which i'm sure

everybody was well aware of as employer in any kind of company, you're able to see instant messages on the company server. you better know. neil: let me get your sense of this. right now i'm wondering president even getting consider interviewed by mueller or his team or they say as rudy giuliani, you should suspend the information unlikely though that is, how does this change things? >> i think that it gave the president a lot of talking points but there isn't as much substance to his allegations. i think the american people could take solace in the fact that the fbi did the job despite personal bias. neil: the fbi did its job and you could argue in comey's defense because justice wouldn't? >> the justice advocated his responsibility to fbi. neil: he show boated. >> what he did wrong was

publicly announcing investigation and reopening the investigation, the results of investigation and reopening the investigation 11 days later. neil: you could argue that hurt llary clinton? >> essentially based on reports and cost her the election. as far as any bias to trump, i think it was counteractive by -- neil: you don't think they want light on it? the argument is they went light on hillary clinton when they had more than enough grounds to be much more aggressive? >> it's hard to say. it comes down to what your view is about the -- the ability to prosecute in something less than what would ordinarily be considered criminal intent. neil: the president says the whole thing proves his case, you say what? >> he's got a fair argument. you know, it's an important consideration. i think that you look at this and you say to yourself,

initially the president's argument was unlikely to be true and then when you go through this and you actually see the blistering text messages you say to yourself, all right, michael horowitz may be right that they ultimately got the judgment call correct but along the way no one expects that you check your political considerations completely at the door, on the other hand, using government property to have this sort of a conversation in the midst of an investigation in a high-profile matter, you know, really, that just is outrageous. the president is right to say, you know what, that is not acceptable. >> i tried to put everything in context, some of the most common on russia. it still doesn't make sense. >> i would look at it a couple of ways. first of all, you have to separate out the court judgment using the fbi devices to communicate between two lovers. i think they exercised extremely

poor judgment but as far as their personal opinions are concerned, everybody has an opinion especially in this particular election. extremely provocative. we haven't had a provocative candidate like trump since georgia wallace. the things he said provoked reaction to people. >> they made a bet on the fact that hillary was going to be elected president and it was a poor bet, spent more time worrying about -- >> everybody thought hillary clinton and i'm not saying she should or she shouldn't have, everybody thought she should have been president. it wasn't a poor decision, it was comey's action that changed the results. they were both poor candidates. neil: what i want to ask you, trying to get a sense, what was the context for some of the remarks about donald trump besides the fact that they might not have liked him, could give him the benefit of the doubt, could they have had information

early on about the russia stuff and that's what they were referring to, a leap on my part, this is not the way i like my fbi agents and personnel to text or tweet or say anything. that's what i'm asking you and whether that is a possility and whether that feeds the argument that the president is wrong on this, that there is something here. >> neil, i think that is not a leap to say that the professionals involved would have seen information beforehand and that would have influenced the text messages and the messages we are seeing as the public in this ig report and that we have been seeing in the past couple of months only scratch the surface of what's been going on and we mention that this is on government property. can you imagine what's going on in personal e-mail although they are also using personal e-mail to discuss government matters which is a whole other issue. neil: peter strzok was getting information to help mueller as was comey later on. >> and leaking to the press. having relationships with the press in which apparently some are receiving they they shouldn't be receiving, tickets

to sporting events. >> work extra hard and rather to be lengthy report, you know what, that's a good thing. there needs to be -- neil: delay it is release of that report? >> depends how thorough it's been up to this point. from my perspective and the history of bob mueller, i think he's extremely professional. he's been quiet -- neil: you used to say about comey. >> they used to say about me. [laughter] >> if you saw judge pirro last night, speaking with florida representatives and now we see congress going after all of the text messages, they are going after federal charges on obstruction of justice and this will play out in the next few weeks, no matter how in-depth investigations are, something better come to light quickly. neil: thank you very much, the guy who will have a big role in

understanding on where we go is the guy a lot of republicans want to make next speaker, separate issue for another day would be now house judiciary member, republican congressman from ohio jim jordan, congressman, always good to see you. a number of colleagues are trying to see horowitz next week when he comes to talk to folks -- >> and mr. rosenstein. he will be in front of us in the next few times. neil: this is like avengers movie, this gets better and better. what do you want to hear from the inspector general? straight shooter, came down the middle on all of this, your thoughts? >> key questions, why peter strzok still employed at the fbi. comey has been fired, mccabe fired, faces criminal referral, lied three times under both, jim baker, former general counsel gone, demoted before he left fbi.

lisa page left fbi. why is peter strzok still there in light of what we learned from the ig's report, that's an important question for mr. wray and rosenstein when they come in front of congress. neil: if you have peter strzok yourself, what would you want to hear of him, of course, he has very disparaging views of then candidate trump, he was providing a lot of research and early, you know, foot work for bob mueller since -- >> you're right. neil: what do you want to hear from him? >> he's the key player, essential figure throughout the entire narrative. ran the clinton investigation. was the lead investigator in russia investigation. he's the central character and i think those sequence of -- of text messages are important. remember, peter strzok opens the russian investigation on july 31st, 8 days later we have the text message that we saw on the report. we will stop trump from being president. one week after that, we had the text message, august 15th which says we need the insurance

policy to make sure trump isn't president. i would want to walk-through the sequence all the way through september 2nd where we have another text message, potus, president obama wants to know everything we are doing. the operative word, everything. so i would want to walk-through that sequence. you opened it up on the 31st, what happens in the next four and a half weeks in those tics messages i think tells a lot. we need to unpack that and get answers from mr. peter strzok when he comes in for deposition. neil: a lot of democrats who are seizing on this, confusion and that the republican are divides, you are suing each other for documents, rod rosenstein, he will go the other way at you to simply push for the same thing. republicans are eating themselves alive on this. what do you make of that? >> rod rosenstein isn't giving us the material we are entitled to have an separate equal branch of government to do constitutional duty of oversight. neil: he is saying he has to do

constitutional duty and what you're doing gets in the way of that. >> rod rosenstein's name was never on the ballot and wasn't elect today anything. but the house of representatives and people in the united states senate were and we are separate branch of government entitled to that information. so instead of fighting us all of the time and instead of threatening excuse me, staff members on the intelligence committee, why don't you just give us the stuff we are entitled to see so we can figure out and get answers for the american people. neil: do you think the president should fire him? >> i think rod rosenstein is scathing on thin ice and if he doesn't start giving us the information, you will see more things happen in the house -- we filed a resolution last week, mr. meadows and i did, if you don't give us information, they'll be a vote in united states congress. i think that will happen sometime soon, i'm hopeful it will and also contempt, there's impeachment but he needs to give us that information and quit threatening, i mean, think about that, the head of the department of justice threatening staff members in a separate branch of government, trying to do their jobs, trying to get answers for

the american people, neil, why is it the most explosive, 50,000 something text messages between peter strzok and page, the one that we did not see, the one we didn't sigh was the most explosive one. we will stop trump. why didn't rod rosenstein showed us that one when we saw insurance policy text, texts with all the bias and on muis towards president trump, why didn't we just see this one on two days ago when the report comes out? those are some of the other questions we have for rosenstein and mr. wray. neil: the president says he's vindicated, do you agree? >> the bias at the top people, not the ranking -- neil: that's not what i asked. it vindicates and exonerates him? >> well, we know there's been no evidence of coordination between the trump campaign and russia, a year of this mueller investigation, no evidence, so this report i think -- what we already know and shows the bias that existed even inspector

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>> you think comey's actions were unfair to hillary? >> no i think james comey was unfair to the people of this country. neil: all right, that's the president's view. a number of democrats though who came out and said wait a minute, we believe comey situation, he blocked candidate for easy pick-up and presidential election, we are the ones who are suffering from bias here that hurt us politically. let's get the read on that from

former democratic congressman former presidential candidate denise, denise, you think in the end all of this back and forth and insubordination on comey's part cost hillary clinton the election, right? >> well, it's measurable, neil, states that were trending towards her in the last two weeks suddenly moved towards donald trump in the last 10 days and in the last -- closing days of the election and there's just no question that comey's announcement on october 28th to congress that the fbi has learned of this new information regarding emails tilted the election. now, keep in mind -- neil: denise, i would buy that if it was hillary clinton surging at the time she was falling in polls in those states prior to this. now to your point, that might have sped it up a little bit. she was deteriorating as a candidate connecting with the

very voters that she took her granted were her base. >> this doesn't take anything away from donald trump. let's set aside for a moment whether any of us were for hillary clinton or donald trump. let's go to the fact that the fbi on september 29th already had the information that was announced on october 28th and as somebody who is running a lot of elections, i can tell you, the last ten days of an election, if new information surfaces, can change people's views. yes, it did have a measurable outcome and, again, without taking anything away from donald trump's candidacy, this decision that comey made to notify congress on october 28th of information that -- you know, the fbi had possession over a month, certainly had impact on the election and the other thing is that -- jim jordan spoke about this moments ago, the fact that you had fbi agents who were making political commentary back and forth, lady justice is supposed to be blind folded, right, in this case blindfold

was off and people playing politics against donald trump. bottom line, both political parties and american people were deprived of a fair courthouse and even now we have to be skeptical of things that the fbi did back then they are having impact on an investigation that's ongoing at this moment. neil: you know from the president on down, a lot of people are saying, maybe it is a rigged game, maybe there are many bad apples at the fbi than we thought and maybe the problem started at justice department because one of the reasons james comey gave for going rogue or getting insubordinate was because he wasn't getting much follow through from loretta lynch all the way to president obama. i'm wondering whether that does say something in the wider sense that these agencies all the way up to the justice department were not keen on donald trump and were very keen on hillary

clinton and would be more incline by human nature to help her and hurt him? >> well, you know, that can all be true but also true that jim comey announced i doubt it, but it hurt hillary clinton. the fbi, no one at the fbi, scale on the election. that's not their job and, you know, the fact -- you wonder why there's not some kind of a cooling off period that in the closing days of election stuff isn't thrown out there and given official stamp of approval by a justice agency that causes people -- neil: i know where you come from politically. you're clear. do you think that donald trump legitimately was elected president of the united states? >> yes, of course, he was.

neil: i have to tell you, i still talk to democrats who just say, well, i don't know, deliberate i will keeping out the specter that that was what created donald trump to become the next president of the united states. do you think those democrats who seize on that and question validity, do you think that is right? >> look, he is the president of the united states and was elected by the people of the united states according to laws. at the time did james comey did something that caused public confidence to be eroded in hillary clinton's canned -- candidacy, no question about that. neil: that's knot what i'm asking. justice was not aggressively following on that. they were sure that hillary clinton would win and furthermore, anything that would show interference would only help donald trump and that democrats to this day, many in

our union party, to this day are saying he's e legitimate -- illegitimate. do you see that he's still and i legitimate president? >> donald trump is our president. he's the president of the united states and the conduct of the fbi -- neil: you just did it there. it's still an issue. it shouldn't be an issue. he was dually elected president. >> you have to look at the polls, they tilted the outcome and i'm saying this without regard that somebody is for donald trump -- neil: i don't care about the president and you have no proof and you are feeding a narrative that says he's not the real deal.

>> no, look, let's go over it one more time. donald trump is the president of the united states, why even argue that? the point is though that that election, the last ten days of the election things happened that absolutely changed the outcome. neil: she refused to go to the very states that president trump won. >> you're right. neil: she had an opportunity, she had the opportunity, he took advantage of it. >> you're 100% right. neil: he's the president of the united states. all right. >> the inspector general report's doesn't take any from donald trump's presidency but does raise questions. neil: he's the president. more after this. >> he's the president

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academy. they are very keen having him especially a guy of that status. no one messes with that guy and for good reason. all right. a couple of developments i want to follow up on here, the back and forth, politics displayed on both sides on this ongoing investigation, how long it drags on, et cetera, but i do want to show you something that might give you an idea on where wall street is coming from. i often said on the show that it's not about red or blue, these guys are green, they love money, they loved it when bill clinton was president, democratic president, and feared impeachment and the possibility could go because he was very good for them, very good for the economy so they rallied when it looked like the senate wasn't going to follow up what the house wanted to do and bill clinton survived that one. you know the rest of the story. after what happened last thursday when we had the new york attorney general focus and filing against the trump family,

the trump foundation, when news of that broke about an hour and 15 minutes into trading the markets started tanking, they tried to recover on that day, they never really did on the fear that the steady flow that they like including tax cuts an regulation cuts would be interrupted and they don't like that, like i say, they like money. so do these guys. charles that was remarkable, kind of, the feeling on thursday, you saw in realtime. they focused on trade, i'm not mitt gailing, what do you think of that? charles charles we have seen this over and over again. what i think is becoming crystal clear also, wall street is begin to believe that all of the issues will not ultimately impact the presidency, so while we did have the knee jerk reaction, we you will always get them until there's complete resolution, on the same day that nasdaq closed at high of the session, the russell 2000 hit all-time high and also hurt

because the dollar had biggest move in two years. every single time we see negative news implying that there could be legal problems for the president, the immediate reaction is sell first and then try to gather the details later. neil: what do you make of that? >> i feel like i've been lied to at business school. by all -- by any standard the market should have tanked this week. this whole trade war thing which is building again, china saying they are going to have -- this should be bad for investors unless we are all wrong and trump is going to win and the trade war keeps getting spinning and china will back down and he's not going to have any chance of getting any real trouble over recent things or investors are being delusional but the market says nothing bad is going to happen. neil: do you subscribe to that belief? >> the market is right more than people are most of the time. neil: compromised of people.

>> occasionally gets too impressed with own success. ignore the real estate bubble and ignored tech boom in 2000. it could be those moments where it's all coming to a crash, i think at this point nothing really bad is going to happen to the economy or the tax cuts that are placed because of all this news. at least that's what investors are saying. neil: what do you think? >> i agree with jonas, health care is what holds best to democrs,hat they should be hammering over and over again. republicans are weak on the issue. neil: they are all over the map on the health care thing. >> obamacare is more popular, obama himself is. if you look at key races, new jersey, virginia, the health care issue was the bellwether there. when you look at the messaging out of democrats barring the crumbs and the thousand dollars,

we don't talk about that that much though i just said in national tv again, you see in the races people are looking at health care issue. that's reflected on what jonas is talking about, the market will continue to do well, consumer confidence will continue to grow and the president is getting credit for economy. charles: this morning that's all they talked about to your point that they have been grappling for an issue. wall street, i don't think wall street is struck on anything, wall street is following the real data, not the headlines but the real data that we were reminded of this week when retail sales came so powerful. what i liked about the retail sales growth the growth of stores was fatter than internet. the growth of internet was more than groceries. all the confidence that jessica is talking about that we see in polls, data, have come to fruition. people are leaving home, hottest spots in the market this week.

the markets has professional smart money that can move markets, probably has summed this up. the mueller investigation is taking a long time -- neil: they don't see that going anywhere or the trade thing going anywhere? >> they learn today adjust to no unknown. the presidency has this every week. charles: think about yesterday's session. the dow rallied 200 points after china retaliated. as soon as china news hit the market soared you know why, because we are getting close the other resolution. neil: in response as was our initiative. charles: as a matter of fact, 50 billion-dollar number was misnomer. focused on china 2025. that's when they want to dominate the world. we put out categories. it's part of negotiation. neil: i'm happy that you didn't mention the dollar.

[laughter] neil: so what do you think? maybe the markets are just going to trust the president on this one or hope we get through these hurdles? >> let me just play devil's advocate and pretend the market is wrong. charles, you say the nasdaq was high, which is true, trade war should have started something. it's a wholesale fraud and everybody lost billions of dollars and how that hasn't affected tech stock confident is a little weird and plays -- charles: i will say a lot of the new recent ipo's had been duds. snap went straight down. the whole unicorn is a different story as opposed to economy. you can't deny what we are seeing in the economy. >> investors have so much confidence -- neil: you guys come back later on. are your liberal friends getting worried that none of this is sticking, trade fears is sticking, the mueller thing isn't sticking and looking like

democrats might not be part of the big blue wave in november in. >> no, generic ballot -- i am going right after. no, they are not afraid of that. generic ballot had slunk down and now back. neil: still confidence that the house is going to flip, yes or no, is the house is going to flip? >> i think that it is. [laughter] >> we have nothing. >> i have game. neil: i don't know if this is good or bad but they are going to be back. [laughter] neil: gives charles to discuss global opportunity. that's a pay per view event. oprah winfrey and nicole kidman, not physically on the show, they both made deals that raised my eyebrows and made me think, this happens sometimes, i fall into a charles' mode, this could be pretending something very big. i will explain.

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neil: all right, as you know by now at&t can scoop up time warner and they will and they are going through formalities an meeting with people across all the various entertainment issues that comprise time warner or late time warner. a lot of other companies including parent company, 21st century fox, a host of other players, susan li has been looking at that, hi, susan. >> calm cost upping its bid to buy 21st century fox. big rallies, discovery, lions gate, pbs, the biggest winner of the week and arguably for the past year 21st century fox, owner and operator of this network, up 11 days in a row. 9 straight record closes and longest winning streak for the stock. this happened after the

department of justice lift to block merger, speculated comcast increasing assets for 21st century fox which fox agree today sell for $52 billion at tend of last year. comcast now offering $65 billion all in cash, so you might be asking, what's behind all this deal activity, well, it's fear of big tech, like netflix, amazon, google and facebook who have taken viewers away from traditional television and really threatened to dominate the future of entertainment. this is making traditional media companies feel the need to spend in order to stay relevant. silicon valley giants, they can, by the way, still step into the buying spree, they certainly have a lot of cash to do it. half a trillion dollars just sitting on the sidelines but instead of buying net worth or movie studios, big tech has shown preference to pay up for

famous talent, to create original content for their own platforms and great example of that apple just announced yesterday they have signed a deal with oprah winfrey to create whorg female programs for apple's plan subscription base video service and not to be outdone by apple, of course, amazon also inking a similar first-look view with nicole kidman, as you can see, media arm's race and you have to spend just to stay in the game, back to you. neil: it's a matter of time bond experts. thanks, susan, she will be back in the next hour. we are getting interesting vibes on the press right now. a lot of people thought that after sean spicer left threats, secretary would calm down, that department happen. we wonder what does sean spicer think of what's going on right now? it's a good thing because he's coming up soon gonna make it rain "tre tres". he's saying he's gonna score a bunch of three-pointers on you.

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neil: you know, we have been looking at a lot of the primaries so far this year headin into midterms and one thing we can conclude if you're a republican and you want to wins the good to be either like donald trump or certainly to be liked by donald trump in the case of maine and the businessman sean who was selected as candidate to replace my next guest, both a businessman so like donald trump and liked by donald trump, matters a great deal that he's liked by the incumbent very popular outgoing governor paula page who joins us right now out of maine. governor, very good to have you. >> pleasure to be back, neil. neil: are you okay, what's going on here? this looks like a shoulder brace, what are we looking at? >> i just had a shoulder replacement two weeks ago. guarantied to get rid of my slice. neil: good luck with that. i thought you were in another fight with politicians.

as long as it's not that. >> it's the weight of the democratic party. neil: it's interesting that all the candidates who were running, all the republican candidates shared deal for cutting taxes, shrinking government, doing something about reforming welfare, so they were all clearly preaching from your choir book, is that a national appealing trend, what works in maine so far, so far nominees it's going to work nationally? >> i absolutely believe so. i think the people -- what the people are looking for is someone that is not a career politician but someone that's going to come in and do the job and leave and let somebody else come in and do it. in our case sean moody is a baseman. he's a mainer, self-made, and he's well liked and well respected and what he says is what he's going to do and that's what captured the eye and the hearts to have mainors.

neil: what are you going to do? >> i have no idea yet. still thinkingbout this. my wife and i are going to take the winter off and then we will decide what we want to do. neil: now, your close to the president, he thinks a great deal of you, have you entertained, has he talked about a role in the administration? >> we are looking at some options, he's made some overtures of that i may be asked to do certain things and we are looking, but nothing concrete at this point. neil: do things in his cabinet? >> oh, i don't think it would be the cabinet. i just really don't want to be in washington. neil: i see. >> all of the time. but we will see. [laughter] neil: back to national issues here, the party seems to be feeling it's getting its traction back and that it will avoid a sweep in november or at least surrendering the house to democrats. they base on improving economy,

momentum maybe postnorth korea, what do you think? >> i think the same thing. we are feeling it in maine as you saw in the primaries, we don't know who the democratic candidate will be for governor but republican -- neil: they have to have a runoff now? >> they are going to have -- what we have is -- neil: that's right, i forgot. who came up with that idea? both sides were criticizing it. who came up with that? >> actually it's a group out of massachusetts and the money is all out of state and it's funny, but maine is cheap state and they come to maine. neil: we will watch that one closely. the idea is to avoid confusion they seem to add to it. governor lepage good to see you. >> take care. neil: all right, sean spicer on the battles back and forth, did you see the dust-up outside the north lawn with the president of the united states? it was a media moment but i

don't know where the media whether it was the most ideal of moments, i will explain, sean spicer will soon after this. [inaudible] ...

>> you know, this really was a historic way, you think of everything going on after the canadian summit and the north korean summit and the dustup with the generals and the leaders, but for my money, and it was so much going on, this struck knee as sort of like a seminal moment on the entire week. take a look. >> he's following the law that was-- >> that was a direct order-- >> can i answer your question, please? you're asking me the same question over and over. the investigation has been totally discredited. >> you're asking me about peter strzok being fired? i am amazed that peter strzok is still at the fbi. >> are you worried that michael cohen might-- >> i did nothing wrong.

>> he's a good person. >> are you worried he'll cooperate. >> do you mind if i talk. >> what did you mean when you said you wished americans would sit up at attention? >> i'm kidding. who are you with. >> yes or no. neil: and we love that, the best part, who are you with. a reporter with cnn. know the that we relish this sort of stuff, but it was entertaining. and for those wanting the old ways that we ought to be established press conferences, that's what we do. this president still has them, goes back to marine one and stops and talks to reporters. this was an unusual event where he stopped and talked to fox and friends, steve doocy and before and after that managed to take any and all comers, questions from anyone and everyone. sean spicer, that might not be a formal presser, but riveting. what did you think about that? >> it was. i think like every other aspect of his presidency, this

president is doing it his way. he's been a disrupter from day one. and i think he's going to focus on getting things done and results to the american people as opposed to figuring out how it's supposed to work according to past precedent. so, you know, he shakes things up. he gets it done. he does it his way. but he's always in charge. neil: when you were his press secretary and dealing with a lot of this. some events would go on as a candidate and early on in the days as president, would you secretly or try to advise him, you know, be careful here, this could be slippery here? i wouldn't recommend it, sir? what? >> well, at the beginning, sure, i treated him leak-- like i treated the counselless principals i staffed in the past and i realized he's very different than anybody i'd worked for. he has a pulse of what the message and the environment, the

media landscape looks like at any time better than anybody i've worked with or seen to are that matter. you actually probably learn more from him than he takes advice from you, which is quite a role reversal. >> there are so many little snipets and interesting, you know, exchanges with reporters yesterday in this north of the white house presser, this particularly got a lot of attention and play afterwardsment i want you to react to this. >> he's the head of a country and i mean, he's the strong head, don't let anybody think anything different, he speaks and people sit up at attention ap and i wish we would do the same. >> what did you mean when you said you wished americans would sit up with attention. >> who are you with? you're with cnn? you are the worst. [laughter] >> what did you make of that? >> okay, so, here is the take i

have on this, and whether it's the members of elite washington media or k street folks or big donor bundlers, the thing that's unique about this president is in the past, regardless of party, the president needs those people, right? he wants, he needs media attention, they need access and money to get things done. this president has slipped everything on its head. he has dismissed everybody. they need him more than he needs them and that's the opposite dynamic that's ever existed in washington d.c. before. and people are still getting used to it. here is the thing, neil, i've been in republican and conservative politics and causes for 25 years. i know that there is a media bias. it's well-documented over the years. that being said, there's a particular hatred by some in the media and a personal animus they have against this president that goes well beyond any bias that's

existed just against conservatives before and when you watch those kind of media scrums, you realize that they're not looking to get information. this isn't in pursuit of good journalism, this is personal for them. they don't like this man. they don't care how much he gets done for the american people they will never give him credit and that's a sad state for journalism and frankly, and its reflection on democracy. the idea of a free and fair press is paramount to our democracy and we need that. it is healthy to have a really robust press that's fighting for facts, fighting for the truth, revealing key things. this press corps has changed dramatically from focusing on that to focusing on their dislike of this particular president, no matter how much he gets done. neil: they like to point out that the president started it by calling them fake news and they bristle at that, and they're sensitive and we all have feelings. >> we do. neil: okay. >> we do. but it's interesting because they don't mind when they call other people names, when they disparage or question the motives or integrity of anybody

else they write about or post a story about, but when people come out for misrepresenting the story for getting something wrong, for perpetuating a false narrative, they then question their integrity. it's amazing the hypocrisy that exists. ey have no problem attacking and maligning other people, but when people call them out for their false stories, it's an attack, and it's very different how they view the world. it was interesting politico had a piece when a conservative reporter was, frankly, was rude to president obama during a press event, politico wrote a story about how rude it was, how out of protocol it was. now, you just show that clip how they treat this president and that's become the norm. the level of lack of courtesy, lack of protocol, that they expect of themselves, they don't mind, you know, undermining themselves. neil: i think most good journalists and i'm sure you'd agree, can see the good and bad in any president, can see the collective good accomplishments

in this administration, sometime in this president case, his personnel foibles get in the way of that, but i figure i've got the hours in the day and news networks, we have time to get at it at you will and it's lopsided personally against him, but with any representative for him. i want you to sort to take a peak at this and sarah sander's dustup with the press on the immigration issue. let's take a look. >> a policy change to enforce the law. that's been this administration's policy since the day we got here. >> in april-- >> it has been our administration's policy-- >> said at this time-- >> if democrats want to get serious about it instead of playing political games they're welcome to come here and sit down with the president and actually do something about it. >> don't you have any empathy, come on, sarah, you're a parent, don't you have any empathy for

what these people are going through? they have-- >> settle down. >> seriously. >> i'm trying to be serious, but i'm not going to have you yell out of turn. >> the law and they have-- these people have nothing. >> hey, i know you want to get some more tv time, but that's not what this is about. i want to recognize you, go ahead, jill. >> can you imagine they should be going through when they come across the border with their parents and then suddenly they're pulled away from their parents. why is the government doing this? >> because it's the law and that's what the law states and the law-- >> don't have to do that. >> you're right it doesn't have to be the law and the president's called on democrats in congress to fix those loopholes. >> you're a parent. you're a parent of children, don't you have any empathy for what they go through? >> jill, go ahead. neil: when they make it personal, let's say you were there, how would you handle that? >> well, as, you know, i'm not sure how many viewers recognize that individual, that's the

chief correspondent there for playboy bye which clearly is focused on issues of immigration from all of their coverage on that issue. it's amazing because that's personal. they are not asking her a question. they're debating her because they believe in certain issues and causes and they oppose those that this president's fighting for. she answered the question. she talked about what the president's position was, why he was doing it. whether you agree or disagree, that's the answer. and that's her job, is to, you know, give the answer to the question as to what the policy is, why the president and the administration's enacting it or following it or what have you depending on the question. but they don't like the answer. that's the big deal here. and the bottom line, is she was absolutely right. what happened immediately after she had that interaction with the top correspondent there from playboy, cnn put him on air and erin burnett wanted a discussion about how he felt not about the policy because it's always about them, about their clip, it's

about their clique, about their air time. it's not about getting an answer and that's the issue here, they believe so wholeheartedly in certain policies and positions, and are so opposed to this president and his issues, that they have lost all means of objectivity. neil: and he also has a role as a cnn analyst, right, 'cause you know, that's-- you know, i'm sure, look, neil, in fairness, i'm sure cnn hired the top guy from playboy not because of the pictures, but because of the amazing articles. neil: i did want your take on the rumors that sarah sanders herself might be out. the president didn't hint one way or the other, spoke fondly of her, but i remember him speaking fondly of you. there are no guarantees with this administration. there are no guarantees with any administration, i understand that. but does this lead to this narrative that's out there that the white house is a rocky, iffy place to work? >> oh, not at all.

i mean, in all seriousness, if sarah were to stay, say until the end of the year not just in terms of this administration or in terms of any administration, that's a solid tenure as a press secretary. so, i would argue that there are natural pauses in any cycle at any administration after election, before, you know, after a midterm, after there had been a reelect and reelect and i would urge everybody to pause and say there's been a tremendous amount of intensity and pressure working in a job serving not just in any white house, but this particular president. and are you able to continue to serve the president in the best way that you can. and with the level of speed and intensity and focus that he and the american people expect people who are serving in the white house? i would expect that a lot of people, not just sarah in particular, pause after this election, have a discussion with the president and figure out whether or not they have frankly the stamina to keep up with him for another term, but i would

expect everybody pauses and reflects on that after, in between a midterm and the next time. and that's very natural for any white house, but in particular, this white house. i'm not sure it's news that after basically two solid years, plus the campaign, that sarah will have put in that she wouldn't reflect. if she's not going to, she should as everybody who serves the president to figure out whether they can keep up with the this president and the agenda for the american people. the idea this is breaking news is nuts to me. neil: last question, i'm curious your take on it. when the president claims fake news, sometimes i think that anything that's negative is fake to him and he doesn't like to hear bad news on it. >> look, i think it's more like if he believes that people are using anonymous sources and making things up that he hasn't made a decision on, then it's troubling and i think there's

countless instances where that's the case. i have been an advocate of saying that i believe that we should call, you know, particular reporters and particular stories out as opposed to painting everybody with a broad brush because i think there are good journalists, in that press room that fight every day for the truth, fight for a good story. whether or not we like them or not, that uncover something, the president said so much himself and i think that we should recognize good journalists whether we like their stories or not who take the time to get it right rather than some from outlets that are is it concerned about themselves, their clip, their click and being right. neil: sean spicer, it's always good to have you on. >> thanks, neil. neil: and the impression of what you get of the president a lot over issues over this particular salute with the north korean military leader, but we didn't really get much on the taking down of a taliban terrorist. that happened this week as well. butt you didn't know it, did

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>> we didn't get anything out of kim jong-un, nothing. we just-- we just started. >> that's -- this guy deals from the seat of his pants and maybe it works and maybe it doesn't. neil: have we gotten anything with raul castro and the changes with the castro leader. >> fidel castro is go. neil: i didn't see advancements with the new leader with raul and earlier with fidel, i don't know if anything is changing. >> what does anybody feel we were going to get from cuba. neil: and you could say the same about north korea. >> no, no, you could not. they're not a nuclear power. neil: all right. that was with the number two ranking democrat, steny hoyer

who kept calling me larry, that's okay. and everyone was enraged about sitting down with the north korean leader even though when the talks were temporarily canceled they were enraged we weren't talking to the north korean leader and a lot came from the same people who said it was good to talk to even those we might not like because the heads of countries with whom we must be talking, period. and that was fine, or when barack obama reached out to the cuban leader raul castro to normallize relations, even though that was, too, as politics was played, universally panned by republicans and now universally panned by the same democrats who praised talks then and not so much talks with the north koreans. folks, it's very confusing. it's clearly, clearly very political the way it's displayed. isn't it clearly to talk with the leaders, fdr couldn't have asset down with josef stalin and the cubans, we were chatting

with time and time again. and jeffrey joins us right now and that's my only point here is that you could pick and choose your battles. pick and choose your talks, for normalization, what have you, but i think talking is a good thing, whether it was barack obama doing it with the cubans or this president with the north koreans. what do you think. >> sure, neil. people criticized him saying he was a war monger and now sitting down with peace, and it's not a good enough deal. there's no winning for donald trump on this stuff. i think you're right, it's right to get north korea to the table and try to get a deal. and there are fair criticisms of the deal thus far, the beginning of the process not a particularly good start, but at least conversations are happening for sure. neil: when they talk about not particularly a good start, a lot of people immediately seized on the president shaking the hand of a north korean military leader and saluting him.

and that that somehow indicated that it was equivalent to what republicans said was barack obama's bow to saudi prince, but this happens again and again and again. what are the niceties and the rules and how far you go on this stuff? >> yeah, look, i mean, these are-- it's an open dynamic, the president can do whatever he feels is right in the appropriate circumstance. and people are critical because it was used as propaganda as by the north koreans. maybe shouldn't have done it, but that's a minor thing. can he hammer out things with kim jong-un, but people debating the salute, maybe a tiny propaganda, but the question are we going to get the nuclear weapons off the table. neil: you know what wasn't reported a lot on that salute or whatever it was, very little on the taking down of the taliban leader who really was a butcher and really was a threat to us

and i'm not saying that the north korean leader isn't, but i think it's worth a mention that that guy is dead now. >> and it's great. the leader the tichl terrorism in pakistan, killed 8,000 last year and attacks against the cia operatives where we lost folks of ours in afghanistan. they got him in the kunar province and his son earlier, a strike against the taliban. neil: this is putting it in perspective. folks, i don't care if you're on the left or right on it, if you make an argument it's better to talk to your enemies than argue with your enemies or saber rattling. and it goes both ways for the republicans lambasting the last president for talking with cuba and the current president trying to do the exact same thing with the north koreans.

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>> it probably didn't help, but nobody wakes up in the campaign world hoping they'll get a tweet against them from the president of the united states, but i think it begs the larger dynamics played out in the race, are you for trump or not? >> well, it wasn't quite that simple. mark sanford did lose on and the president of the united states did tweet against him. it wasn't close, he lost fairly clearly to katie arrington who joins us out of charleston, south carolina, the republican congressional nominee for that district. ms. arrington, welcome to you. congratulations. >> thank you so much, sir. an honor to be on the show today. neil: what did you make of what he was saying, that essentially

donald trump lost him this? >> you know, and we all in south carolina thank mark sanford for the past 24 years of is service, it's enough. this is not j us about the trump factor. it's about a hard-working campaign and had a lot to do with the fact saying no continuously doesn't solve problems, that we need to have somebody in washington who is going to get to work to get the problems fixed in this nation and it's disheartening to see him continue on for this. trump has gone so far in the past few days, it's enough, stop now. it's okay. move on, we've got bigger issues. neil: what's interesting about it, is 90% of the time or so, he was aligned with the president. and i guess because he made a dustup on among other issues, the trade thing, that got the president's ire. now, there might be other factors, i would imagine there

were, but there are plenty of republicans who have serious issues with the president's tariffs, policy and how that could boomerrang. are you afraid if you're elected towing the trump line. >> let's talk about the trump line. mark sanford went on cnn how many times to bash the president and he made it personal. he was very personal about the president and one of the few republicans to get up and bring up the stormy daniels story. and blamed the president for steve scalise's shooting saying he was culpable. you can't agree with everyone, this nation is founded on debate and conversation, but the problem with mark sanford, he can't get into a seat at the table with the president because he's been so offensive. it's one thing to have a disagreement about policy, it's another thing to go personally attacking someone on national tv time and time again.

we need to move beyond that. the tariff issues that we're talking about now, i would hope that i could have a conversation with the president, but, you know, as a nation, i think we need to kind of take a step and think, this is the world's best negotiator. all the things that everyone has been categorically terrified of, north korea, he's going to bring us to nuclear war. he's managed to bring us this, and i'd like to see what he's going to do in the next few weeks, but when i get to washington i'd like to have a discussion, a respectful discussion with the president. neil:o you agree with his approach on trade? >> right now, you know, i come from a community that needs help with its steel and aluminum, so, you know, i'm going to look out for the people of south carolina. we had a bridge actually malfunction here, a bridge break, the cable snapped and thankfully we had a company right here, standard tech manufacturing in summerville that was able to fix it because

they have the steel on site. so, i absolutely am going to be about south carolina first, but the president of the united states has a global view. i think that i would need to speak with him before i made any decisions on that. neil: now, in the race in the fall and things have changed and prospects have improved for a lot of republicans, perhaps yourself included, given the pickup in the economy and certainly pickup in south carolina economy particularly in your very district and i'm wondering if that fades off, in, you know, sort of blue wave that everyone was predicting or there was still enough frustration with the president personally that it wipes out all of those advantages? what do you think? >> well, i can say the blue wave is not going to wash on the shores of south carolina. our economy is robust. we have more jobs to fill than we have people to fill them, and ultimately, those are the things that people are going to the voting booth and deciding and making their voice heard on.

our nation has never been stronger. record low unemployment. we have a booming economy and as far as global peace, we're on the verge of something we haven't seen since, you know, world war ii. let's take a minute and think about the goodness that's coming out of this and i think that south carolina was very vocal in that, in this last primary season and i think that will continue into november. neil: do you want the president to campaign for you as he indicated he will? >> right now i am just going on the hard work of this campaign. i appreciate the president's tweet the day of. it was 4:00 in the afternoon. a lot of the voters had already gone to the polls, but this campaign, you know, to mark sanford, sir, this was a hard-fought, hard-won campaign. we knocked on thousands of doors, we-- you know, my campaign pledges, i'm donating $125,000 of salary back every year and term limitings myself and denying the congressional retirement benefits. that's something that edged out mark in this because we're tired

of career politicians going to washington and not getting the people's work done, citizen legislators. that's what this election was about. this is a person, i've worked a hard life and started at the graveyard shift at denny's all the way to the briefing rooms at the pentagon and it was hard work and perseverance of me and other volunteers that we won this election. neil: and you won. katie arrington, an interesting race to watch. >> thank you very much. neil: we did call ms. arrington's democratic opponent joe cunningham and we haven't heard back. hope springs eternal. and eventually we get them here. we' we're fair and balanced and we don't bite, and we just ask the fair questions. more in a minute.

>> you know, i'm from new jersey and it's a great state, but the democrats have the run of things right now, but it's not all peachy keen. they're arguing a lot amongst each other how to proceed

because the new governor, he wants to tax and do a lot of things, that's fine, he got elected, that's what he can do. the only thing is he's running into a resistance movement led by the number two ranking democrat in the state the senate president steve sweeney fighting him left and right on a lot of so-called automatic revenue raisers. i want you to watch this exchange with mr. sweeney to indicate the division that exists even among some liberals. take a look. >> i worry that basic math seems to be an alien concept to a lot of people, including the governor. well, you know, neil, you know, some people say it's courageous to raise taxes. it's not, the courageous thing to do is actual fix what's wrong. neil: you know, you're the senate president. you're not like some joe schmo like me, you're the second

highest democrat in new jersey, he's not getting back to you? >> the problem is, neil, they don't want to hear what i have to say, i understand that. but i really don't want to hear what he has to say. neil: i really don't want to hear what he has to say. he, of course, being the governor. them there are fighting words. that would be like my not returning charles payne's phone call or worse, worse, charles not returning mine. [laughter] >> the aforementioned charles payne and jonas max ferris and new sensation on fox business, we love her to death, and charles, i mentioned you first and want your take on it. that's amazing and you asked the top two democrats in the state essentially not talking to each other all over taxes. >> by the way, i'm a fellow new jerseyens and the last conversation i had with my accountant, i was glad i had a box of tissue. and i'm taking some damage. i love where sweeney is coming from with this. i feel like he's like a real,

just sort of the real blue collar kind of person, you've got a billionaire who has been elected who is making decisions that will crush regular new jerseyens. this is a state where a million people have fled already. neil: and by the way, that's where-- sweeney has been selfish here, i don't want to see people keep league. i need them. >> these are people who have skills and families and they're moving to charlotte and other states, and we're killing them. i see an ex-wall street guy let's say his intentions are good in his mind. he didn't understand. steve sweeney has the pulse of new jersey, he knows what he's going to talk to. neil: the governor, a former goldman sachs guy, pretty much elected in a landslide. would you think would have the chits in his favor. >> and understands the capital market system because revenue driving business, getting people to stay.

a lot of billionaires have fled new jersey, ap loosa, omega, copperman, they pay 41% of the state coffers, if you don't keep them in town, who is going to be able to, i guess, get the state budget back on track, right? and equilibrium. and the millennial tax, that's disturbing, someone who uses an uber and air bnb. neil: always about you, all right. >> why tax students-- >> and what bothers me because about this, and i've argued this, you go immediately from raising revenue to not looking how the revenue you have so far is spent. it's a knee-jerk reaction. >> it is a knee-jerk reaction and part of a dialog we should have be having about spending, and entitlements that are going to go bankrupt as a fellow millennial. neil: and that's in new jersey-- >> a huge issue there, in about all states, but especially in places, new jersey, new york as well, where we didn't get the

tax cuts. neil: and hurts you to say the word new jersey? >> that's okay, my mom is from long island. neil: just over the hudson river. >> anyway. neil: those people, those people. jonas, what do you make of the pain that charles and i have to deal with. >> i don't understand why you guys haven't moved to connecticut yet, that's why it exists. slightly lower taxes than new jersey. neil: only slightly. >> well, the property tax is a lot less. as he said in the interview with you, the rich people are mobile, it's like corporations, if you tack too high in america they'll route everything through ireland. it's the middle class where they have to stay in new jersey and all of a sudden the tax base is shrinking, like detroit, everyone left and the place goes bank result. new jersey's reached their limit on essentially what they can tax without losing the tax revenue to flight. the other states there, it's not a country. america is not there yet. it's not that easy to leave the

country and we are not going t on our budget even on a federal level and that's a separate discussion, but the state, especially the northeast, especially with the tax situation, and they've losing deductions, they're going to get squeezed. neil: the big boom now is to those states with the fewest impediments. >> my goodness, it's mind-boggling how well the states are doing and people want to be a part of that. if you're tethered. we're tethered to this, at least you have a driver, so if you want to-- if you wanted to move-- >> seriously, if my kids didn't love their school and where they're going, i'd be a puff of smoke, i really would be. >> florida. . neil: well, i don't know where, i think maybe sit here. >> i think you're right. neil: that's what keeps a lot of people there, with their kids or whatever, but there's no economic draw. >> there's no economic draw and all of a sudden there's the other issues, about even spending this much money and taxed as much, you don't see the benefits of it.

one point that was made that was fantastic, limit the amount of money 0 mo are paying taxes. the in california the governor admitted 15,000 people are paying 40% of the taxes and it's just so-- you've got just a handful of people like you can tax like this and everyone else leaving-- >> now, jessica, your argument is that the well-to-do has gotten more well-to-do. >> that's part of the argument, and the argument between the governor and sweeney is all over the country. i wouldn't call murphy a-- and even president trump himself remember how many times we saw the mashup of what he was saying and bernie was saying and they were remarkably similar. to susan's point about the millennials, the trend for the millennials are moving, for the first time they're coming out of cities and picking a more rural

existence because in new york city you can't do the-- >> are you doing the rural things? >> across the george washington bridge, is that what you're saying? >> as rural as you get. does that enter into the equation, where you live and what they think, and your friends-- >> as millennials, you want to stick by where the rest of your crew is we're not going out partying in connecticut i tell you that on a friday or saturday night and-- >> looking at jobs where good jobs are high paying and finance, and a lot of people are moving to stanford or greenwich or new york and finance there, and moving to charlotte. i have friends talking about moving to charleston where you can have a good quality of life and have a family and maybe own a home one day. i certainly won't be owning one in a long time. neil: and-- >> i'm not going anywhere. >> you tell me when there's a cool young millennial party and i'll go.

but just because of the hipsters, don't believe they're a farmer or-- >> and urban home prices is where the action it. the home price ins connecticut are 10-year lows because nobody wants to live there and they want to horde around the coffee bars and they do not want to live these suburban lives. they have roommates in their 30's because they want to live in expensive places. >> once they get married, 35, 36, 37, whatever. >> i've got a house to sell them. don't want it-- >> and i think it's underreported among democrats how to deal with that and your point the moderate democrats and those in crazy land who tax everything and everyone. >> it gets back to the thing that we had earlier. all the things, if they want to do medicare for all and they want to do health care for all and talking more taxes and in the democratic party there's a

big divide. let's not forget what happened to seattle. they passed a big time tax on corporations and then they blinked a week later. neil: your driver is waiting. we'll look at fallout from this and much more. you're watching coast to coast. so i'm not happy unless my hands are dirty. between running a business and four kids, we're busy. auto insurance, homeowner's insurance, life insurance policies. knowing that usaa will always have my back... that's just one less thing you have to worry about. i couldn't imagine going anywhere else. they're like a friend of the family. we are the cochran family, and we'll be usaa members for life. save by bundling usaa home and auto insurance. get a quote today.

>> rod rosenstein's name was never on a ballot, his name wasn't on anything, but the people of the united states and senate were and we're a separate branch of government entitled to that information. instead of fighting us all the time and threatening members, excuse me staff members on the intelligence committee why don't you give us the stuff we're entitled to see so we can figure out and get answers for the american people. neil: do you think that the president should fire him? >> i think that rod rosen stein is frankly standing on thin ice. neil: all right, those jordan, the man that a lot of people want to make the next speaker in the house of representatives.

that aside, i have issues with rod rosenstein and we found out that paul manafort is going to stew in jail not so much that he's a flight risk, but thought he might tamper. they denied the $10 million bail and he's stewing in prison and could be there quite a while. the read on all of these developments with attorney mercedes collins. what do you make, first of all, on the rod rosenstein thing and getting him to stop suing and demanding information from house investigators, senate investigators. they're fighting with each other. >> which is so ridiculous. anyone will tell you you can't get that information right at this very moment and you certainly can't threaten individuals to get the evidence. all of this information out there is during the investigation, you have to step back and let the investigators do what they need to do. neil: so the house is going too far? >> i think the house is going too far and then rosenstein in threatening the house members is

extreme. there's fault on both sides. neil: when you hear the president post the ig report, the whole thing is a shambles, a mess, and this exonerates here, and what do you make of it? >> doesn't it strike that we cannot believe there are two fbi agents, strzok and page and text messages between them. they're still there and involved as far as we know in the russian probe and seemingly involved in the clinton probe as well. why are they still there? when there's that much bias, everyone on both sides are saying, this is a huge black eye on the fbi. there's so much bias that's already been been out that we see in the text messages. why isn't that ferreted out? they're still running the investigation. neil: you know what's weird for me, when they slammed manafort in prison, i'm thinking to myself, he's not a flight risk,

took his passport and the witness thing. and they ransacked his offices and collins, ransacked his offices and the justification for the above and approval for the above has to be based on something substantial? >> how about is there a flight risk? evidence destroyed, witnesses, some criminality. and how are you going to stand before a judge, oh, we ransacked manafort's home. neil: as a lawyer when you hear about homes and offices ransacked and rifled through and storm in and get what they need. what do you think about that? >> i think it's extreme. i've had clients in the throes of a criminal investigation. neil: it's approved for what reason? >> for those reasons. oh, there's some criminality that is going to take place or witnesses threatened or evidence destroyed. that's when you take the extreme

measures and you break down doors and seize information, but we're talking about manafort, already under house arrest, that had already been heavily monitored. the reason why he was found in the cross-harris there were text messages. neil: what a mess. mercedes, thank you. a lot more to go i think i called this show coast to coast, and it's cavuto live. but it's not coast to coast, but it's seen coast to coast. and it's been a long day. ks ts with proskin technology designed to absorb so fast, it helps to protect and maintain your skin's natural balance so you can feel fresh and free to get as close as you want all day, and now all night for a free sample visit tena.us ♪ rawwggwwrughh! well, i told you they wouldn't have it. rawwggwwrughh! it's ok, it's ok. we've got time.

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>> the world cup just started and it's already drama in overdrive. bars across america and the world for that matter packed with world cup fans watching world cup games and this will go on for the better part of a monday month. our bryan llenas is in the thick of it all at sean's bar where

fans are taking it all in. hey, buddy. >> hi, neil. there was argentina versus iceland an hour ago and a little more packed. denmark versus peru is starting right now. we're talking 3.4 billion people who tune in for this month-long tournament called the world cup. put that in perspective, that's about a super bowl every single day in terms of viewership and you're talking 32 teams playing 64 matches, the final will be on july 15th. but you know who will not be there, that's right, the united states. the team failed to qualify for the world cup for the first time since 1986. it was hugely embarrassing, the head coach had to resign. but you know, ultimately though, we spoke with fans about the situation. they said despite the americans not being there, they're still going to watch the world cup for the most part. take a listen. >> it's unfortunate, but new york's so diverse, you still get

some excitement for all the teams. >> it's a little sad because they did such a good show last time, and hoping the u.s. would be there. i'm here to watch argentina and even iceland being an underdog is kind of fun to watch and people think it's a game, but it's world war, that's what it is for us. >> world war, neil. look, in terms of nielsen ratings, it does show when the u.s. played in the matches back in the brazil world cup, four times as many viewers watched those matches so we should be seeing a hit in terms of the ratings in terms of viewership and popularity, look, there is a silver lining, the world cup is coming to the united states in 2026. the north american bid won, fifa choosing the united states, canada and mexico for the final for that in 2026. neil, back to you. neil: 2026? i'll be eating oatmeal and semonila. you're a young guy. i don't know what i'm going to have for breakfast tomorrow,

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>> tweet storm morning, the president claims a new report, quote, totally destroyed james comey and all of his minions. what congressional republicans say that means and former clinton advisor on how democrats should react. leland:. elizabeth: the white house saying the president supports a compromise and we'll tell you what's in it and if any democrats are on board. >> the president is out at his golf club on this beautiful saturday in washington. we're glad you're