between the seats in the subaru. >> sandra: this happened in connecticut as well. bears like to get in cars. >> bill: it's the food between the seats. >> sandra: thank you for joining us. "outnumbered" starts now. >> harris: fox news alert. we are awaiting remarks from president trump at the white house where he is hosting a cabinet meeting one day after signing that executive order ending the separation of the families accused of crossing the border illegally. he may also unveil proposal to merge the u.s. department of labor and education. keeping a campaign promise. it would be a step to shrink the federal government. we're watching it and we will bring you developments when we get them. another fox news alert now. democrats are slamming the president over that executive order on immigration which he signed yesterday. the president says he is keeping families together and curing the border.

and you are watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today host of "after the bell" on fox business, melissa francis. co-host of "fox & friends first" jillian mele. and former deputy spokesperson for the state department fox news analyst and the of "benson and harf," marie harf. and then benson of "benson and harf" is in the center seat. also a fox news contributor. and the political editor of down hall.com because -- towncall.com because he can't be busy enough. >> guy: you're telling me. >> harris: congratulations on your show! "benson and harf." >> guy: in the flesh together. >> marie: together. >> harris: there is so much going on. get to the news. welcome for joining us. >> thank you. >> jillian: i'm a newbie. >> harris: let's do it. new action in congress one day after the president signed that order. to keep families together. house lawmakers plan to vote on the legislation today to make a series of immigration reforms. debate is set to begin on the

floor any time. the president blasted democrats and touted the latest action at a rally last night in minnesota. watch. >> president trump: so the democrats want open borders. let everybody come in. let everybody pour in. we don't care. let them come in from the middle east. let them come in from all over the place. we don't care. we are not going to let it happen. by the way, today, i signed an executive order. we are going to keep families together but the border is just as tough as it has been. >> harris: some democrats say the president's latest action is another form of abuse, detains entire families. wraps indefinitely. the number two democrat on the senate, dick durbin says it will fail. >> this president has the power to fix the mess he created to stop the crisis at

the border. what he did with the executive order i don't believe will be successful. it will at least have a momentary delay in trying to separate kids from the parents. but i don't think the court will walk away from the standards we agreed to 20 years ago. i think it's doomed. the executive order is doomed and the president should realize it, stop it in place. work together to solve this. >> harris: doug mckelway with the news at the white house. doug? >> hi, harris. this controversy is becoming a classic case of why so much of america hate what is goes on in washington. the political posturing in an election year masks the reality that the separation of family has been going on for a long time. going back through several administrations. this masks the reality that any adult in this country who breaks the law and is detained whether you are a citizen or not is separated from their

children as a consequence of breaking the law. this masks the fact that both political parties beneath the posturing want toind a solution. they described this morni what part of the problem is right now. >> what the president did e don't need to do asake s americans is sit enforcement of law against our humanitarian ideas. we need to do both at the same time. what he tried to do is enable us to do that until congress acts. >> the executive order that the president signed yesterday does a couple of things. instructs them to maintain the custody of the detained families and it keeps the families together in the tension until the cases are adjudicated in court. it requires constructed facilities to house detainees and it prioritizing the adjudication of the cases. so that end, the department of defense signed an order that

was sent to them from the department of justice. to send 21 defense department attorneys to expedite the backlog of the cases. they will work for 1729 days -- 179 days and designateed the special u.s. attorneys to expedite backlog of the cases. in the meantime, the administration trying to send a simple message about parental responsibility. >> the simple fact the way to prevent separation and the way to prevent children coming i our't come in the country illegally or cross at an illegal crossing. go present yourself at a legal border crossing with the permission to come in the country or make make a case why you should enter the country. >> reminder the secretary of the homeland security said at the white house, of the 12,000 children in custody, 10,000

sent across the journey by the parents in the hands of absolute strangers. the real action in this controversy today is happening on capitol hill. i know you are going to mike emanuel later for more on that. that is it from the white house. >> harris: thank you for reading the rundown on "outnumbered." a great way to start. good to see you. i lovehen he blushes. a couple things happen. 17 parents met in a courtroom in mcallen, texas. ready for the prosecution because they had crossed illegally. and separated from the children and the charges were dropped in the mcallen courthouse. that was breaking news a short time ago. jillian, where are we with this? that is an inconsistency up until this point. >> jillian: newt gingrich said something interesting that had me thinking all day. he said we have two options right now. open borders or border

protection. if you think about it there isn't much in between because we have to have the conversation as a country and decide where we want to go forward from here. do we want to let everybody in or have border protection that president trump ran on and promised with the border wall? but we have to do it calmly and rationally. bar we're so angry right now. there is so much hatred. how do we do that? >> harris: melissa, speak to the divide and the anger. just the last 72 hours have been very interesting. >> melissa: it has been very heated but it reminds me of i hate it when the people want to point out what is wrong in a situation. they want to complain about someone else's solution and then they don't step forward and do anything themselves. if there is a time for people to get together and calm down and figure out a solution you'd think it's right now. it takes nothing more than looking at the children hanging in the balance. no matter what you think about how they got there. they are there now.

we have to talk about what to do about that and how to stop this from happening in the future. we should hold every lawmaker responsible at this point. they only operate with a deadline. leave them in washington and don't let them go home until they hammer out the agreement. this is the perfect time for the solution. everybody has something they want. get to trading. get to work. get it done. >> harris: let's do "benson and harf." if you haven't caught their radio show, you need to. it's good. what do we do about the children detain and separated from the familys? i mentioned off the top the 17 parents. sure they didn't face the prosecution, which by the way they crossed in the country illegally. are we going to stop prosecuting people? how do we go forth and put families back together? whose responsibility is that? >> marie: the custom and the border patrol came out with a statement saying they were working to reunite 2,000 children who have been separated from the parents

since april, since the new policy was announced. that process has to take place. it's complicated. but theave to figure out how to do that. hopefully we will start to see reunification here. it depends where they are held. some are held in new york. there is logistics and money involved but it needs to happen. we talk about legislation next but right now we need to make sure the kids are reunited and making sure facilities are up to standard. there are reports today of abuse. >> harris: lawmakers on both sides of the aisle trying to look into situations particularly in some cases to gain access to this. to double check. fact check me quickly, jillian. i heard what you said and i think there is an update we are not sure if they are working to reunite the families.

there was a statement that came out and then another statement. we want to be clear. >> guy: speaker ryan said d.h.s. and a.h.s. are working to that end. >> i hope they are, right? >> harris: perfect. >> guy: something that doug mckelway said that was a bullseye is how the last 48 hours encapsulates the loathing that many americans feel for political process. you have the trump administration who had a fiasco of a policy. i took them far too long to correct it. they were telling us that the hands were tied and they couldn't do anything because of the law and they reversed themselves with the executive order. then the democrats are demanding that trump take action. then he took action and they started to dump on him for doing what they wanted. >> harris: you heard what durbin said on the show. >> guy: that it is going to fail. >> harris: that it will fail. so who is on the side of the families they are fighting for? >> melissa: come up with a solution. it drives me bananas and what upsets the public so much. when you sit on the sidelines and you scream about what is going on an then you offer no solution. you are in the gallery throwing tomatoes at the

people on the stage. >> harris: the president took action. >> melissa: get together and do something about it. this isn't the normal political fight where you fight over the taxes or whatever else. this is really essential. really important. it's been broken for a long time. >> harris: our lifetime. >> everybody's hands are dirty. get together and fix it. or go home permanently. >> guy: if pelosi and durbin both say the same thing which is after screaming about the family separations which was i think morally offensive to most americans, now they are saying the new outrage is detaining the families together but indefinitely. pelosi calling it a different type of abuse. >> when does this start? i want to be clear. i understand zero tolerance policy. for a policy that was preexisting. when did it start? >> guy: zero tolerance? >> harris: when did the separation at the border begin? >> guy: when the trump administration -- >> harris: so how do we have picture of 2014 of obama administration of children in

cages? >> guy: that is the previous crisis when you had unaccompanied minors housed in cages in the same facility. the virginia example you gave earlier about the alleged abuses in the obama administration. the idea that this is all new under trump is not true. >> harris: that is the point i want to make. policy shift. >> guy: however, the zero tolerance was a significant shift. my frustrati democrats were saying this is the biggest moral outrage, this is the humanitarian crisis. then instantly move the goal posts and say now we are opposed to the new policy as well. i think they have a heard time arg that. the polling does not back them up on catch and release. they want the return of catch and release which is a dysfunctional, unacceptable status quo that the democrats want to go back to. the republicans should not let it happen. they have the majority. pass a bill to prevent it. >> harris: jillian, quickly? >> jillian: waiting on that. >> harris: it's important to get the facts straight. there is conflicting points out there. let's roll.

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>> harris: breaking news moments ago. the first lady arrived at mcallen, texas, which is near the border. there is a detention center there. wild video because we were trying to catch this as she is walking into one of the centers. of course, the first lady issued a stement about the situation with immigration. we know from her communications people that mrs. trump has pressed her husband to act to keep undocumented immigrant families together. she has been a voice in this. we have had confirmation of how much of one with her husband. the president is in a cabinet meeting right now at the white house. it's closed door. we are getting some notes out of that.

we will bring you those pictures, that video as we can from the pool inside. but the way we know about the mcallen situation from the president also confirming it to the people in the room at the cabinet. right now, the pictures inside the detention center. and the first lady at the united states gathering. we have gone from video from live pictures. to see what is happening at the border. can we take a moment and listen here? is there any audio to hear? not yet. if there is we will bring it to you live. this situation is changing moment by moment. >> bringing the first lady down there is the first competent non-stupid thing ey have done in a while on this issue. >> guy: looking at the first lady and this move which is good, i'm thinking how this could have been rolled out

better and differently. >> harris: what were they focused on? if there was different messaging from the administration and the white house early on. this is a defense of this from the attorney general based on the bible. president saying it is happening. i don't like it. i want to deal with it. other members of the administration saying it wasn't happening. >> john kelly making the argument they would use it as deterrent. kirstjen nielsen was asked if it's deterrent, she said she was offended by the question. it's partly a messaging problem and partly policy problem. this isn't they described it wrong. they made a policy decision they did not think through either legally from the policy perspective or from a messaging perspective. it didn't work. since they have done this, the numbers have gone up. >> harris: we did see a spike since april. can i talk to the live picture? sorry.

i'll go right back to you. mcallen, texas, we know that the first lady of the united states melania trump is there. they set up a horseshoe type of meeting. we see this sometimes when people visit centers where they are set up for the relief and the crisis like hurricanes. we have seen the first lady take part in things like this. she is there at border. mcallen, texas. putting her voice in now on what is happening with the immigration conversation that has been so sharp. and so emotional in the last couple of days. so, as soon as we see her pop up, we will keep the split screen so we don't miss the news. >> melissa: i think speaking to what you were talking about, what were they thinking when they did this. we have seen time and again -- >> harris: there you go. there is melania. >> melissa: they are getting set up and we are trying to give you everything as it's happening there so you can see her. >> harris: let me jump in here. the communications director for the first lady said that the first lady melania trump

arrived in texas to take part in the briefings and the tours at a non-profit social services for children entering the united states illegally and the custom and border patrol processing center. the goal is to thank law enforcement and social service providers for the hard work, lend support and hear more on how the administration can build upon the already existing efforts to reunite children with the families. of course, as melissa was pointing out, we see the first lady melania there with some of the officials moments ago. you saw live the horseshoe shaped tables which they will set in and have discussions. we are not sure yet how much of that will be live. we assume most of it. we'll bring it to you as it happens. jillian, do you have anything to add? >> jillian: this is good. as we have heard for a number of days now the first lady melania trump and ivanka trump have been proponents of keeping the families together. we know that. the fact that melania is there visiting is great because i think like we want more of the inside of the centers. i understand the reasons why

cameras aren't allowed in them often times because there are underage kids and you can't show their faces. will give people a sense of relief. people almost, you go to the first case scenario when it's something you don't know and something you are not seeing. >> this is a pivot in where they are trying to position this. she is there with the secretary of health and services as well. >> the president gets everyone screaming to scurry everyone to the table. we see it time and time again. i believe that is behind the tariff thing. you create a situation to put the pressure for people to act. speaker ryan says congress only acts with a deadline. this is a terrible choice.

you don't use children to be the ones to put pressure on adults to make better decision. that is where we ended up. it becomes untenable. at this point as the pressure comes off as it should, will congress act? >> two things happening now simultaneously. the first lady getting ready for the briefing and the tour at the detention center on the border. mcallen, texas. the house now confirmed, debating the conservative immigration bill. the first of two immigration bills on the floor today. that as i understand it looking at the calendar for today moved things up a little bit. it's happening simultaneously to the first lady visit to the border? are we listening yet? i'll depend on the team in control room. watch and listen together. >> this is a very important part of the mission.

similar to some of the children that we care for at the residential treatment center, the foster children removed for the opioid addiction. these children also come from the difficult journey. and the staff here are committed to praying for them and committed to provide them with the case management services and education. they are providing everything that a child needs to be successful. something we have experienced mrs. trump, is the evidence demonstrates for any child to be successful, your child, my child or a child in texas or child in new hope is we need to surround them with the five markers of success. safety is first. life skills. health. health is emotional health, trauma informed care, spiritual health as well as the physical health. education you will see at the

charter school later and vocation so every child has an opportunity to live out the home. we appreciate you and the secretaries to be here today. we are horn nowhered to show you the shelt -- honored to show you the shelter that has 58 children, children from difficult journeys and we treat them like our own children. soily allow the secretary to say a few words and introduce our special guest. >> to all of you, thank you for welcoming us here. i want you to know how grateful we are for the department of the human services and the work they do for the children. delighted to hear more about it and hear more about the sense of passion and mission and what you do. privileged to be with you. i'm delighted that the first lady is spending today with us

and get a chance to meet your children and meet you and hear from you. thank you. >> thank you. i' glad i'm here. first of all, let me begin to recognize each of you and thank you for all what you do. for your work that you do every day. what you do for the children. we all know they are here without their families. i want to thank you for your hard work, your compassion and your kindness that you are giving them in this difficult time. i'm here to learn about the facility and i know you have children on a long-term basis.

i want to ask how to help reunite the children with their families as quickly as possible. thank you again for all that you do. thank you as well. thank you for what you do. thank you very much. >> absolutely. thank you again. >> i'm brian harrison the deputy chief of staff from secretary azar and the house of human services. >> i'm the chief agent for the u.s. border patrol. in our role we are the first to encounter many

unaccompanied children that come in the country. >> good morning. my name is maggie. i'm a counselor to secretary azar and i work with the shelter here. >> good morning. i'm the lead clinician here. we provide the mental health services and support, whether in the journey and the reunification. >> i'm the lead case manager here. my role here is the reunification. >> i'm the shelter unit manager and i take care of the everyday operations with the children. >> good morning. i am medical coordinator for new hope. we do the health screening for each unique health children. >> hello. good morning. i'm crystal. the lead teacher aid. -- teacher aide. i want to give them the best help we can give them so they

have a successful life. >> good morning. i'm with the h.h.s. and i work with the program in reviewing the cases of the children who will be reunified with the family members. >> i'm the field specialist, supervisor for the division of the unaccompanied children operations. nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you. thank you so much. i heard you have 58 children here. >> 55. >> 55. oh! >> down by three. >> oh. that is great. three of the are already reunited with the families. and those children how many times they speak with their relatives or families per week for example? >> well, the children are allowed to communicate with the families twice a week. they get a phone call but first we have to ensure that the person they are contacting with will indeed their family. so there is a process. we have to follow our the policies and the regulations and make sure that we

identify, positively identify the persons that communicate with are their family. that could be through the verification, birth certificate or the photo identification. but they communicate with the families. >> so when the children come here, what kind of stage, you know, physical and the mental stage they come here? what condition do they come here?? >> clinician >> the great majority are guatemalan. higher percentage rate. they are distraught, because they don't know where they are at. they think they will continue in the process of processing them. when they see the environment and they see the other kids and they see the yard, they start relaxing. so the first 24 hours are crucial for us. you know, making sure that we got them the basic needs, showers. clothing. food.

and before we even start d.h.s. within the 24 hours the manager in charge of doing a brief update what is going on with them to address it immediately. we assess the need of the kids. it's a process. >> they are happy. but they love to study and go to school. >> absolutely. when the children get here, it's a process. they go through orientation, a 24-hour orientation where we get as much information as we can from the children. to assess and make sure that we are not missing anything. if there is immediate medical need, something to address, immediate mental health issue or any severe issue we bring in the clinician. take it from there.

they go through several orientations. the shelter, the case management orientation, and the clinical orientation. so they will get an understanding of the current arrangement. this is to inform them and keep them as calm as possible. reassure them they are in a safe place. they will be well taken care of. they don't have anything to worry about. they are in a safe environment, free from abuse. every day is something new for the children. we provide a lot of struck cheer here. during the monday through friday schedule they attend class. we try to educate them and assimilate them to what the

public school education system is like. we try to integrate recreational activities, spiritual care for the children. down sometime for them. this their home. they refer to these as shelters but this is really a home for the children. this is their house. their bedrooms are their bedrooms. you will see the children and see the smile and hear them giggle. it's fantastic. the staff, we have a tremendous passion working with the children. we see them as if they were our own. we do maintain boundaries and we follow all the policies and the guidelines. but the passion there to work

with the children and ensure they are safe. ultimately reunifying them with the families. >> how long is the time, the max time, the time you spend here that before reuniting them with the fily? >> right now we average 452 to 45 -- 42 to 45 days. it's not an extended stay. we are following our policies and proceedures -- proceed your but the average stay is 42 to 45 days. >> there is some occasions where some children don't have anybody to go back to. in those situations they are further assessed by the legal service provider to identify if they qualify for legal relief. some children eventually move

to refugee status. it's few and far between but we have the process. where some children don't have anybody to go to or the families were killed or murdered in different, tragic situations. hopefully you can speak to the children, a couple of the children today you will see that. that there is not hope to them to go back to a country they are leaving. we have a variety on the spectrum. we have kids that come in custody and reunified quickly if everything is in order. then we have some children that will unfortunately and fortunately stay within the system for a number of years until they canfy for refugee status and move on to the other sister program, the unaccompanied refugee minor program. >> so are the children, most of them come here alone without parents? >> yes, ma'am. majority of the children are

unaccompanied. and were detained by d.h.s. and border patrol for the majority. that is a big part of who we are and who we work with. >> because they are between 12 and 17 years old, right? they understand and know where they are. they are not young, young children. >> yes, ma'am. that's correct. >> do you have the capability to take care of younger children here? younger than 12? >> our license, state license does allow us to take children up until as young as 6. but they have asked us to stay within the 12-to-17 range. >> often times they place younger children in foster home. >> could you explain that process, how you do that? >> sure. at the time of detention, or

apprehension we work closely with the partners at homeland security. they identify young children, 0 to 5 years old. we have a series of a network of foster homes throughout the united states that are licensed in that particular state to work with children from 0 to 5 years old. it's a family setting that the kids work in. the same standard applies. we assess them for any medical need or any serious complication we use doctors or hospitals in the situation. because we get every type of child in our custody. somebody who is nonmobile, nonverbal to somebody whose mom may have perished in the rio grande or something in south texas. those kind of kids are taken care of special circumstances

and they are throughout the united states also. >> we have foster care in corpus christi and el paso and we serve around 100 children in this program. >> great. thank you so much. i'm looking forward to meeting the children and touring the facility. thank you very much again. for what you do. thank you. >> thank you for meeting with us. >> harris: we have been watching live with you the first lady of the united states melania trump visiting a lutheran social services of the south. is down by the border in mcallen, texas, visiting a center where they house children separated from the families at the border. some of them. some of them are unaccompanied minors coming across illegally to the company. this -- of the country.

this is public portion. they now go to off camera portion off the record she will tour the facility and of course there are children in some of the spaces so no reporters, no cameras allowed is what we understand. this is the first of two visits today. the first lady will also go to the ursula processing center in about mcallen along the border, a d.h.s. intake facility. will participate again in a round table with the border patrol agents and i.c.e. they will look at the processing that goes on at the border. these are two different avenue to get to the fact of what is happening at the border. the first lady is there with the children. then she will see the intake process. >> guy: i think the first lady asked good questions. >> melissa: let's talk about that. >> guy: residing over the conversation. first of all, sitting here watching that video in real-time, harris, i could not help but think the entire time about how this entire policy

could have been rolled out differently from the get-go, got on the same page of messaging and the policy could have been changed so it's not as toxic with the optics and had events like this. sympathetic figure going down and emoting and showing there is caring and understanding in washington at the white house. she is the perfect figure to do that. >> she is. you are talking a about the political analysis. i'm interested in the questions she ask and we all ask and keep asking. i have the numbers in front of me from the custom and the border protection and what they said so far this year. we know there are 12,000 children right now in custody. 2,000 were separated. you have the other 10,000 on their own. how long are they here? the average is 45 days. so then what happens? >> harris: i'm jumping in. there is a portion of her day that is not public. but we are still with her

live. so the beginning of the tour on the ground in mcallen, texas, representatives from the health and human services secretary office there as well. this part of her tour still open. you see her walk in a room. the camera is in the hallway. we will show you what is live and public. but at some point that we understand will end. this will become more of a private tour. >> melissa: she is trying to figure out, so you have children in custody and you say you keep them for 45 days. then what happens? where do they go? how do you figure out who the parents are? they said that is hard sometimes because they are not speaking. >> harris: the children are not speaking. >> melissa: a lot of them come from guatemala. how in the world do you figure out where they came from, if they can go back. they talk of sending them back. what is the other option? what do you do?

>> some of them may have asylum claims and if they are sent back they will be under threat of violence. >> melissa: right. they spoke about that. that is who they determine cannot go back because of the violence. but this is the issue we are facing and how do you stem the flow with compassion? >> harris: i want to fold in and out of this live. we have microphones open. but the hand over the camera can't see.ent in the area we if she goes there or makes her way to the next center, the in-take center with the d.h.s. and i.c.e. agents. for the public portion of that, keep watching fox news channel. we will bring what we can. >> melissa: we get the president remarks, too, soon. >> harris: we'll bring it to you as soon as it happens.

>> melissa: you won't miss that either. >> harris: so the first lady first question. how many times a week do they speak with the familys? she is amazing to ask the questions. this is what we all want to know, irrespective of the politics. >> she did not get a specific answer. he is -- he gave an answer about the process. but this is a question we think about through this. they get taken and how often do they call their parents? >> harris: the parents are in facilities, too. can they talk? what rights do they have for the communication? >> if i jump in. i'd like to hear the gentleman say the people they communicate with, we make sure that they are the relatives, the family. that is important because you don't know how many people

come here claiming to be their parents and they may not be. that is part of the problem. >> harris: sure. that has been part of the administration point, too. the sletting process is difficult and now the children are our responsibility in the united states. we have to make sure that what they experience is not worse where they came from. the first lady said what stage are they when they arrive? what is the mental state? it's interesting to hear most of them come from guatemala and they are traumatized. the first 24 hours are most important because you want to develop structure and trust. get them clean and deal with the hunger. the maximum time and the answer 42 to 45 days. >> melissa: that is average. >> harris: melissa is like where do they go after that? >> the children are 12 to 17. teenage years.

these are not the younger, babies. some of the tender age children. >> harris: 12 is young. >> right but that is different than the babies. that requires logistical care challenge. >> harris: what they call "tender age." >> marie: are they trying to reunify them with the parents now that the executive order is signed? i thought they were. you brought up the fact there are conflicting reports. >> there are some conflicting reports how that is happening, who is doing it and that sort of thing? there is room for good reporting here. it's important that the first lady is at the border, you were saying, guy, because she is very popular and a big voice. she has been part of this. from the n.p.r. reporting we know the comms director is talking to them and bending the president's ear on this issue. >> guy: so i think it would not be surprising at all if there were volunteer mission on her part to say send me

down there. listening to the roundtable as long as we did, sometimes in the immigration debate we get into silly, simplistic, black and white arguments and listening to the question and the answers it's clear. these are really complicated logistical, moral, ethical, thorny questions not easily solved by any political talking point from either side. when you see the human component of it. and the basic questions that have the difficult answers from the people on the ground. you are reminded this is not just build the wall or be compassionate. there is middle ground there. >> melissa: i would say as a parent, you say to yourself what of those 10,000 that come without someone what would motivate you to send your child that far? what situation would you be in? how do you address that question? >> harris: we know some of that with the economics and the sex trafficking in the countries. i want to interject. we're inside of one minute out of the play-out inside from

the cabinet room. we know the president has been having a meeting. we learned extra details about the first lady trip because he brought it up in the meeting. this is closed door but there is a pool gathering of the reporters inside. a pool camera as well. in a few seconds we can get the entirety of the cabinet meeting. a lot of topics to talk about. right now simultaneously with the first lady, we saw the immigration debate start. the president of the united states. let's watch. >> president trump: beyond what everyone ever thought. hello, everybody. thank you very much for being here. cabinet meeting. we have plenty of things to discuss. and plenty of success. we have had a tremendous amount of success. we are working however right now on immigration, which has been going on for many years. we have come up with solutions

but we have democrats that don't want to approve anything because they think it's bad for the election that is coming up. unfortunately there are a lot of people suffering and that sun fortunate. unrelad and before we get into that, the new employment claims recently out. just yesterday. sht we have lowest level in nearly half a century. that is something that is incredible statistic. half a century. long time. the economy is booming. it's doing really well. we are renegotiating trade deals. we are doing well in the deals. taking a little period of time. we put tariffs on certain countries. certain industries. that has been unfair to the united states. the treasury taking billions of dollars. other countries are coming along and negotiating

vigorously. a lot of good things are happening. this should have been taken care of before my administration came to being. but for some reason, 25 to 30 years nobody looked at the trade deals. they are out of control how bad they are but we'll make them very good. fair for both countries, our country and whichever country we're dealing with. there are plenty of them. they are all bad. nothing good. my administration acting swiftly to address the illegal immigration on the southern border. loop hold in the immigration laws supported by the extremists. the open border democrats. that is what they are. extremists, open border democrats. if you look at nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, you will see the tapes where they want to have the borders. they need borders for security. a short while ago. a number of years ago. "we must have borders."

hillary clinton. "we must have borders." now all of a sudden they are big open border people. it's a big con job. in the meantime people are suffering because of the democrats. we created and they created and they have let it happen a massive child smuggling industry. this is what it's become. the human traffickers are making a fortune. it's a disgrace. the loophole force rereese of the alien minors in the country when they illegally cross the border. since 2014 alone, nearly 200,000 unaccompanied alien minors released in the united states as a result of the democrat backed loopholes. including catch and release. that is one of the worst. you catch them and release them. save your time. don't bother catching them.

this is what we are stuck with. this is the worst immigration law in the history of the world. the whole world is laughing at the united states and they have been for years. these alien minors were separated and sent all the way up here alone. but they really came up with the coyotes. you know what that is? not good. these are not good people. they were sent up here with the human traffickers because the democrats supported the policy to allow it to happen. they also refuse to fund personnel, the bed space and the resources we need to house minors. they want to us take care of the minors but they don't want to give us the money. the worse it looks the better they think they will do with respect to the blue wave, which is turning out to be a red wave if you look at the polls. i think we will have a red wave, not a blue wave.

they want us to take care of the bed space and resources and personnel. run the most lukousel. you can ask them about that. we have to house minors and house them safely. frankly we have to house them and we should be taking good care of them. then return them them back home. every time we ask for resources they say no. they think it's good politically but i think it's bad for them politically. we'll see. in addition the democrat and the court order loophole lead to family separation. i signed a good executive order yesterday but that is only limited. no matter how you cut it, it

leads to the separation ultimately. i'm directing h.h.s., d.h.s. and d.o.j. to work to keep illegal immigrant families together in the immigration process and to reunite these previously separated groups. but the only real solution is for congress to close catch and release loopholes that fueled the child smuggling industry. the democrats are causing damage and destruction and lives by not doing something about this. they know that. they know it better than anybody up there with a pen. if we don't close the loopholes there is no amount of money or personnel in the world to address the crisis. a serious crisis. in 2014, in the obama administration they have pictures so bad they had a judge that said it was inhumane the way they were

treating children. take a look at some of the court rulings against the obama administration. they talked about the inhumane treatment. i read them and looked at them. all over the place. inhumane treatment. they were treating them terribly. we have a situation where some of the places they are really running them well. i give a lot of credit to secretary nielsen and all the people that worked. the nicest that people have seen. but it's still something that shouldn't be taking place. my wife our first lady is down now at the border because it really bothered her to be looking at this and to see this as it bothered me, as it bothered everybody at this table. we're all bothered by it. we need two to tango. we have 51 votes in the senate. we need 60 unfortunately. because we have the ridiculous filibuster rule. so we need 60. i think i'll get four or five

or six from the senators frankly running in the states where i won by 25, 30, 40 points with mike. i think we will get six senators. maybe w will get seven senators. that still doesn't get us to 60. there is nothing you can do to get there. people don't understand that. when we have a majority in the senate. we have a majority by one but we need ten votes. we need ten. essentially we need ten democrats. not going to get them. they are told by schumer and pelosi don't do it. because we want to see if we can pick up seats. they don't care about the children. they don't care about the they don't care about the problems. they don't care about anything. all they do is say obstruct. and let's see how we do. they have no policies that are any good. they are not good politicians. they have nothing going. all they are good at is obstructing. and they generally stick together. i respect them for that. that's about it. the policies stink.

they are no good. no ideas. no nothing. the democrats. all they can do is obstruct and stay together and vote against an make it and take carf immigration. we should be able to make an immigration bill that can really solve the problem. not just this. this is one aspect of it. this is one very important but small aspect of it. we should be able to do a bill. i'd invite them to come to the white house anytime they want. this information is good. after the cabinet meeting would be good. they are invited officially. i'll let you do the inviting. let the press do inviting. we have to do something about immigration in this country. for 50 years and long before that it was a disaster. but over the last 20, 25 years it's gotten worse. every time they write a rule or regulation it makes it worse. not better. we can solve this problem. we have to hire thousands of judges. no country in the world is hiring judges like that.

they hire border people. you can't come in the country. mexico, by the way, is doing nothing for us. nothing. they have the strongest immigration laws. they can do whatever they want. they can keep people out of mexico. they have a 2,000-mile journey up mexico. they walk through mexico like walking through central park. it's ridiculous. mexico does nothing for that. so then when people say why are you being so tough with nafta -- i am being tough. it's a terrible deal for the united states. mexico is making $100 billion a year off us and the horrible nafta deal. i am being tough. one of the reasons i'm being tough, they do nothing for us at the border. they encourage people frankly to walk through mexico and go into the united states. because they are drug traffickers. they are human traffickers. they are coyotes. we are getting real beauties. mexico is doing nothing for us except for taking our money

and sending us drugs. they are doing nothing. they could solve this problem in two minutes and you wouldn't have to do anything. they don't do it. they talk a good game. but they don't do it. so we'll see how it all comes out. it will be interesting to see. so with that i'll end by saying we had a tremendous success in north korea. we continue to work on that. mike pompeo has been fantastic. john bolton. working together with mike is fantastic. there he is. i thought he might have gone back to north korea. he spent so much time in north korea. surprised to see you here. i think i can speak for both of us to say it's been an incredible experience. the relationship is very good. they have stopped the sending of missiles. including ballistic missiles. they are destroying the engine site. they are blowing it up.

they have blown up one of the big test sites. there was four of the big test sites. and the big thing is it will be a total denuclearization which is already started taking place. i understand, mike, they have already sent back or are in the process of sending back the remains of our great heroes. who died in north korea during the war. that is already in the process of coming back. as yaw know, we got back our hostages. the three hostages who are right now living happily with their families. we are happy about that. we have made tremendous progress with respect to north korea. even since i last spoke to you. what we agreed is to have a meeting. they agreed to meet. anybody would have agreed to meet. it's not possible for the past administrations to have met in the way we met. this was an

incredible important meeting all over asia. they are in love with the united states because of what we have done. japan, i spoke to prime minister abe and he is so thrilled. he doesn't have rockets going all over japan. that makes him very happy, general. you know that, right? he is very thrilled not to see rockets going over japan. plenty of them sent right over japan. he said i want to thank you because what you have done is incredible. no more rockets going and no thought of it. now, things can change. i said it last night in the speech. things can change, personalities can change. maybe end up with conflict. maybe you don't. but the relationship that i have and mike has with chairman kim and his group is a very good one. very strong one. and i think it's going to lead to tremendous success but the document we signed if people actually read it to the public you would see number one statement, we will immediately begin total denuclearization of north