son daniel. tomorrow night, instead of this program, the hour goes to charles. a special program. "charles krauthammer: his words." the man we all of the new breed that is all for us tonight we laura ingraham takes it away. >> laura: sean, thank you so much. fantastic tribute. i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle." as sean just mentioned, our hearts are heavy here at fox and of course, the sad news, charles krauthammer, beloved columnist, father, husband, of course, contributed a fox news, pulitzer prize winner, political commentator died today at age 68. his death was a shock but was not unexpected. he told us two weeks ago that he had terminal cancer and not too long to live. charles became a larger-than-life figure during his decade at fox news. he was one of the most respected political analysts in washington, i think in the united states, no doubt about it, and a beloved presence in the newsroom here.

charles was ultimately lost for words but he often put others in that position, as i know personally. it was his humor, i think, that a lot of us, as we smiled tonight remembering him, or thinking about tonight. >> all kinds of folks, for the last year, and the end, hillary's not going to run. i said 100%, she would run, unless she is struck by lightning. there is no lightning. i think there is some people who get in, and they are not going to get out unless they are beaten. speaking as an amateur psychiatrist. so what if you look like a lucky luciano? it doesn't matter to us at all. >> that is drawn for me. [laughter] >> i think he was calling me. [laughter] >> he was definitely calling you. >> what is the difference

between a democrat and a socialist? >> a democrat is a socialist -- >> are we going to fight like they did? >> no, no. >> i said here a week ago that it will snow and in hell before obama doj indicts hillary. i'm willing to entertain a belief in climate change before that. >> laura: must bring in our distinguished panel discusses life and career. on the phone with us, "special report" anchor, bret baier. in the studio, fox news senior political analyst brit hume, associate editor and columnist at realclearpolitics, a.b. stoddard, and fox news contributor charlie hurt, opinion editor for "the washington times." boy, all of us have so many memories of charles. before we go to the panel here,

bret, you sat in the seat so many nights, as did brit hume, with charles to your right, and it was always a rollicking ride. and commercial breaks, where all the fun usually happens, and in the online special show, where charles was even funnier that he was on the panel. some reflections tonight? >> yeah, you know, it is a bittersweet moment because i like looking back at those moments, and the fun and humor. i just talked to daniel, who was at his dad's side, along with his wife, robyn, and they've been heartened by some of these memories and some of the stories, and looking at their dad and his prime, charles could light up a room. he could crack a joke. he was my first baseman they are on the panel for almost ten years. before that, alongside brit hum brit hume. he could cut through the noise

of the day, and then crack us up in the commercial breaks like nobody else could. so he just had a gift. his writing was on like -- i don't think you are going to see another columnist that had his penetrating kind of wisdom and thoughts and we are going to try to use that as we go on, because he's commented on every issue on the day. and we'll bring him into the conversation as we go forward. >> laura: brit hume. >> we've known this was coming for some weeks now. it barely lessens the sadness of this moment. but what that means is, charles had a chance, in the last few weeks of his life, to hear how we all felt about him. the kind of tribute you just heard from bret, what the rest of us have been saying all day, it wasn't that he was just so brilliant, although he was, he was also so very kind and funny, and we loved him. all of us around here loved him. those of us who might be considered big shots loved him, everybody is love him, as well.

i hope you knew that, i suspect he did, and i'm glad he did for that. >> laura: everyone from the makeup artists, the guys behind the camera who do such good work, and women behind the scenes, everyone knew him. he didn't want to be treated differently, though, than anyone else. you pointed that out. >> you are talking about the brakes, back in the day, "special report, charles was on, he would come in earlier because of the wheelchair, it took him earlier to get into position, which meant that they were two commercial breaks before the time, that i got to spend with charles. every now and then, he would say, a kind word to me about my work. i always felt like the earth and everything that was and it had just been conferred upon me when i got a compliment from charles krauthammer. >> laura: a.b., there was a moment on "the daily show" that i had not seen until just before this show tonight. i would like your reaction and thoughts. let's watch. >> 30 years.

do you ever look back on some of these writings and think, what was i thinking? >> it's worse than that. [laughter] >> >> good for you to speak of e worst part of writing the book was going all the way back and reading the million words i've written, couldn't believe i had written some of that stuff. >> what has the growth process been like? >> the growth process, well, i was once a liberal. >> so the early writings showed hope. >> and then came change. [laughter] >> laura: i mean, a.b., you sat next to him on so many evenings. >> just brilliant. i wrote about him last weekend i said that the only debate that i ever won in nine years was on the super committee, which was a debt cutting committee, which fell flat on its face, he wrote with great hope about how it all might work out. it was really going to be a great opportunity.

when i busted him about it, when it folded, he said that was one of the times where i wasn't cynical enough. he was never wrong. his prediction didn't come true. usually because he hasn't been cynical enough. but for someone who was so cynical, he was also always full of hope and joy. and he really delighted in the little things, and that was an incredible combination, so stoic, so strong, because of his battle, and what he had to surmount in the wake of it. but then, just as someone who really delighted in the warmth and exchange of people. he loved people. we had a night right here at the table, i'll never forget, early on when i didn't know him well, and i was seated in between him and steve and bret are making some college over drinking jokes, and charles said, that commercial always says to me,

the only beer to have when you are having more than one. then he paused perfectly timed, more than one what? and then of course, it was right back to the panel, and we were back on camera, and i was practically under the table. his comedic timing was unbelievable. also, sometimes, just had the delight of a small kid. it was really something to behold. >> laura: psychiatrist, harvard medical school, pulitzer prize, more awards than we can list here. but charles, when he wrote about a political movement or event, he wrote about it in a way that he cut through where so many others were mired in minutia. president reagan, i loved this part, of course this was after reagan's death. he wrote, "optimism is of the perfect way to trivialize everything that reagan was ordered. optimism, every other person on the number six bus is an optimist. what distinguished reagan was what he did and said.

reagan was optimistic about america by the cynicism and general retreat of of the post-vietnam era because he believed on fashionably that america was both great and good." i love that. like an old uncle, reagan is so optimistic, but it was optimistic about the goodness of america. i love the fact that he pointed that out. he was always cutting against the conventional wisdom. >> that and of itself is the optimistic view of america. of course, i have the pleasure of knowing charles far less than anybody sitting at this table, but i remember being a younger boy, growing up in a small town, and we got "the washington post," and i remember my father would rip out his columns and send them to me, give them to me, and that had a profound impact on my interest in newspapers, and obviously politics. he was obviously brilliant, funny, all of these things pray that the title of his book,

"things that matter," was the most perfect title of a book for him, because what he did better than anything else was to cut through all the noise and put everything into perspective, with the things that were important, and the things that mattered. >> that book was a collection. collections don't sell. >> laura: it was on the best seller list for a year and a half. >> that sold like hot cakes for years. i think people are still buying it. i got a copy of it. >> i was on the train coming from new york yesterday, there was a guy sitting there reading that book. >> laura: i want to mention bret's special, people have to take that hour and sit down, it is absolutely breathtaking. tomorrow night, 9:00 p.m. on fox news, i can't wait to watch it. i've seen bits and pieces, but i haven't seen the whole thing. bret, the night after night after night, election night, primary night, krauthammer was

tough on the trump campaign but also very fair. he and i got into some legendary battles on the panel in the run-up to the election, with george will, his best friend, and it was a spirited debate, was always so much fun, there. he was such a great sparring partner on the issue of rising populism versus the old bush globalism, interventionism. he loved the philosophical back and forth that i think makes "special report" such an important show to have featured him. i know brit hume was the first one to really put him on the show, and that made the difference on that panel. he really -- i know you've missed him since, we've all missed him here at fox. >> yeah. he really was a powerhouse. he loved getting into the politics. he loved engaging with you and tucker and others on the issues of the day politically politic.

i tried to get panelists to put chips and bets on potential candidates. we had 17 in the beginning of this process, republicans. so he did not put any money on trump and eventually, he was begrudgingly putting five and ten, and he was would always pa five chip on one women in zone, and he just had a great time with it. he was somebody who i think touched people in a way that, even if you didn't agree with him, you kind of nodded your head and said, all right, i get that. >> laura: brit, trump, we think about what is happening with the big immigration debate, separating the families, i just want to know what krauthammer would be saying. >> me, too. >> laura: what would he say about the nazi concentration camp issue?

>> he was offended by trump. in any way. >> laura: let's be honest, he thought, as does george will, trump is a horrible bulgarian. he did believe that. let's be honest. >> he thought he was ignorant and advantageous. >> laura: no love lost. >> once trump was nominated and became president, i think charles, like some of the rest of us, was deeply offended by the coverage of him. he was very fair to trump during the course of his presidency, for as long as charles was able to witness it, a year before we lost them to this terrible illness. >> laura: he had a column in 2011, a.b., called "alone in the universe," one of the columns, using the title, you got to read it. i went back and read it today. talking about how many galaxies, constellations, life on other planets and so forth. he said at the end, "we grow justly weary of our politics but we must or member this. politics, and alex grubby,

grasping, corrupt, contemptible manifestations, is sovereign in human affairs. everything ultimately rests upon it, fairly or not, politics is the driver of history." i think i would debate him on that because i don't know if politics is that important to most people's lives. but it was important to him and he thought the debates that we were having, of course that was 2011, during the obama administration, all the big questions about how we handle terror and other countries, foreign affairs, were very important. but he always had a very interesting clinical take to my psychiatrist take on the afterlife, whether there was an afterlife. i just wonder, like, i just want to have a conversation about this. when i read this, i was like, this is why i loved being on with krauthammer. >> we all do. that was what it was a wonderful about his columns, they would go off on all these other huge -- >> laura: being a father. >> the perspective was so broad. the thing about how much he loved politics and believed it

was an important debate, and the discourse was so important, even though it's eroded and degraded so rapidly, he really believed that everyone should be persuadable, at least around the edges. he didn't like people who weren't willing to just be persuaded a bit here and there. and so he tried to bring that to his argument. most of the time it works on people. they would say, even if i didn't agree at the end, i really saw how well he made the point. so he engaged them. and that was an art of persuasion and itself. >> laura: charlie, you worked in a lot of columns in your day, on being a columnist, he wrote, "longevity for a columnist is a simple proposition, once you start, you don't stop. you do it until you die or can no longer put a sentence together. it has always been my intention to die at my desk, although my most cherished ambition is to outlive the estate tax." well, he almost did. we've doubled the estate exemption, so he did pretty well

on that. again, humor in the face of difficulty, and i don't know. that was just another. >> i think he would agree with you in terms of politics is not what everything is about. he is right, politics is about power, who can govern, in that respect, it is the most important thing because it is how we determine what rights we have. at the end of the day, he wanted to go to a baseball game. he would have loved to have been at the game tonight, he would have been embarrassed by that. but he would have loved to have been there. i don't know anybody who squeezed more out of life than dr. krauthammer. >> laura: guys, thank you so much tonight. bret, brit, a.b., and charles, of course. thank you all so much. we will miss you, terms, greatly. a reminder again to watch bret baier special tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. eastern time entitled "charles krauthammer: his

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>> laura: oh, what a shock, the media on a mission to blame trump for the ongoing crisis of the border by by the facts just keep reading in the way. here's a prime example of how they are framing the story. >> it was once again blaming democrats for this crisis at the border one of course it is asserted, because administration's policy that resulted in separation of the families from their children. >> laura: >> laura: but inconvet truths keeps popping up. this headline. "yes, obama separated families of the border, too." this has been going on for decades. children and adults making this really dangerous journey from central america up through mexico and ending up on her doorstep. at the white house today, president trump explained during the cabinet meeting why the left has a short little concern for their safety until now. >> we have come up with a lot of solutions but we have democrats i don't want to approve anything because that's probably, they think, read for the election is

coming up. unfortunately, there are a lot of people suffering, and that is unfortunate. loopholes in our immigration laws all supported by extremists open border democrats. that is what they are. they are extremist, (democrats. if you look at nancy pelosi, you look at chuck schumer, you will see tapes where they wanted to have borders. any needed borders for security, just a short while ago. a number of years ago. i see chuck schumer, "we must have borders." hillary clinton, "we must have borders." if people penetrate our borders, we want to get them out of the country. now all of a sudden him a big open border people. it's a whole big con job. democrats also refuse to fund the personnel come about space, resources we need to house the miners. now they want us to take care of the miners, that is fine. if they don't want to give us the money to take care of them, because the worst everything looks, they think the better they will do with respect to the blue wave.

>> laura: democrats claim that their only concern for their offer of the children, housed in those shelters, though, as the trump administration is pointing out, how the facilities are a safe haven compared to the long and perilous journey made at the mercy of human traffickers, smugglers, and yes, coyotes. >> they've created and let it happen, a massive child smuggling industry. it's exactly what it's become. traffickers. you think about this, human traffickers are making a fortune. it's a disgrace. these loopholes force the release of alien families and minors into the country when they illegally cross the border. since 2014 alone, nearly 200,000 unaccompanied alien minors have been released into the united states as a result of democrat-backed loopholes. including catch and release, which is one of the worst.

one of the reasons i am being tough as they do nothing for us at the border. they encourage people, frankly, to walk through mexico and go into the united states. because they are drug traffickers, they are human traffickers, they are coyotes. i mean, we are getting some real beauties. >> laura: years of government neglect and failure to enforce our immigration laws created this crisis. trump is trying to fix it. but you wouldn't know that for my coverage. so it's after the president to point out what we have been saying for years. lousy laws, left his judges, open borders mentality have created obstacles that make border enforcement difficult, if not impossible, especially when children and families, or adults with children may claim are related come across the border. >> we have to house these minors and we have to house them safely, and frankly, we have to house them and we should be taking good care of them, and

then we should return them back home. that's what we have to do. democrat and court ordered loopholes present.my prevent family detention and lead to family separation, no matter hot it. i signed a very good executive order yesterday, but that's only limited, no matter how you cut it. it leads to separation ultimately. i am directing hhs, dhs, and doj to work together to keep illegal immigrant families together. during the immigration process, and to reunite these previously separated groups. but the only real solution is for congress to close the catch and release loopholes that have fueled the child smuggling industry. mexico, by the way, is doing nothing for us. nothing. they have the strongest immigration laws, they can do whatever they want, they can keep people out of mexico. they have a 2,000-mile journey up mexico. they walked through mexico like it's walking through

central park. it's ridiculous. mexico does nothing for us. >> laura: it's the democrats' choice. they can work at the president to fix the system or keep playing politics. it might help if the media stopped there nonstop war on trump. that's wishful thinking. "the washington post" today reported that the trump administration will stop prosecuting parents who cross the border illegally with children. one problem. the story wasn't accurate. "the post" neglected to reach out to the department of justice and now, the story has been corrected. if the media were as interested in getting all sides of the story as they are and just getting trump, maybe we can make some real progress and people can actually know things called facts. here to separate fact from fiction, on the border issue, is the president of the board or patrol unions tucson office, as well as chairman of the american conservative union, matt schlapp, and ambassador susan

johnson cook, a former advisor to president bill clinton and barack obama. it is great to have all of you on. we have a lot to get through here. there is so much misperception and misrepresentation about what has been happening at the borde border. art, the other night, you gave us a fact that i can't stop thinking about you. you said it on the show. about what happens with these children when they are -- they are under 18, and they are sent up through this journey from guatemala or honduras or salvador, and they come up through mexico, and you said, as a border patrol agent, agents find certain items on the girls, especially the girls. i want you to repeat this story because i think a lot of people who didn't hear it need to hear it. >> what we often times, we find them with birth control pills, and they are told that they use

these pills because they may get raped along the journey. i'm going to go a little bit off of any talking points and explain that you were dead on with everything you said. it is sickening that certain members of the media have chosen to attack our president. it is sickening that certain members of the media have chosen to attack border patrol agents, and describe us as a nazis. that is disgusting that you would even think that. i don't know where that even comes from. we have minors that we have detained without their parents. we have detained just recently a minor out here in the tucson sector, their uncle threw him over the fence with nothing but a letter, a little handwritten note in his pocket that said, "help me find my mom," and the mom's name on that piece of paper. agents that i know that i have worked with, myself included, go to the field numerous times with our own food that we buy, toys, clothes, everything else, so we

can assist to these people we arrest of the border. to compare us to nazis as a whole new low. that is the most disgusting thing. these people are idiots for that comparison or they need to go back to school and actually learn history. they probably fell asleep during history class is what i think. >> laura: susan, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, even barack obama, or really, i think think, pretty clear back in 2014 that these kids were going to have to go home. president obama said they were going to have to go home, literally, hillary clinton said they were going to have to go home, the unaccompanied minors, and the family units crossing the border. and this is what nancy pelosi said when she visited one of the family detention centers in 2014 where obama was keeping the family units. let's watch. >> what we just saw was so stunning. if you believe, as we do, that every child, every person has a spark of divinity in them, and is therefore worthy of respect, what we saw in those rooms was

dazzling, sparkling array of god's children. the balance is to move these kids, these young people, these families come as quickly as possible into another setting. we are here to think the border patrol into doing the best they can under the circumstances. >> laura: a very different attitude back in 2014. same detention centers. a judge -- one of them, two of them down, the family detention centers, even though they were the best they could deal with, as a money spent a lot of time in central america, a lot nicer than where a lot of these people sadly come from. why the change? >> now it's 2018. you look at a president who started his whole campaign and presidency talking about building a wall, citing a whole group of people as rapists, there are lot of misperceptions. not everyone is in an unaccompanied minor. what we have seen recently are

minors accompanied by their parents. right in new york yesterday, 229 children are without their parents, before the executive order was assigned. you shake your hair, no, matt, -- >> laura: 2,400 have been apprehended since a zero tolerance policy went into effect. of them, it's 2002 were separated from their parents, and in some cases, the people saying they were their parents were not the parents. children had a credible fear of the adults bringing them into the country. so there's a lot of stuff going on there. but the lion's share of the people that hhs is dealing with our, like art said, they are abandoned by people. 2,010,000, 2,000, you were right, were separated for a variety of reasons. but 10,000 or unaccompanied. >> 229 still haven't been united from the parents. but you know, i think the move is idiotic, and it's ignorant because when i was talking about

republicans -- >> laura: as it nazi germany? >> we are talking about humanity. i went all over the world -- >> laura: she thought it was not nazi germany back in 2014. >> you'll have to ask nancy pelosi nancy pelosi that. >> laura: they all said that. >> nazis -- is already been brought back to bring them with her parents played by the way, all president trump was doing was following the law, very important for people to understand. he was following the law that president obama had to follow, that the courts created, when i hear michael steele, think on these concentration camps for kids, i think it is time for the rnc to repudiate that kind of talk. as a law enforcement, the president following the bar. we can have political disagreements but this is well over the line. >> the images, you can't deny the images of children being torn -- >> laura: i want art -- art deals with the images every day. but the images of children being

traffic and cartel members who are pumping our country with functional and heroin, they are being enriched because of this human trafficking, and the coyote smuggling, all have to pay after the cartels. do they not come art? >> you are talking about kids but that are being smuggled in the trunks of vehicles. such great parents, that they are giving their child to a criminal organization so they can put them at a trunk of a vehicle and cross it through the desert or cross through very dangerous areas. they are such good parents that they are being thrown over fences without any adult supervision whatsoever, so they can be exposed to the elements. the reality is, the pictures you are seeing from a lot of these media outlets over the last administration, not from president trump's administratio. you can spin it anyway you want but the reality is, i'm out there, all the time. i work that border, and i'm telling you right now, things are being done correctly, and there's a lot of people out there in the media that are twisting things around and fell and rising something that isn't

there. their hatred toward one president is so amazing that you are blinded to the truth of what is happening right now. >> laura: guys, stay right here. we have breaking news at the border. plus, the media finds an outrageous new way to criticize the first lady. you have to see it to believe i it.

♪ >> laura: okay, some quick breaking news. magic slab stolen from us but the ap just reported that aboutn reunited with their families after being separated from their family since may. we'll have more throughout the hour as it comes to us. that breaking news first. aunt mission accomplished for the mainstream media, which has managed to dent the first lady's popularity. they ran weeks of stories with cool speculation why melania trump had disappeared from public view, living in another house, in new york, back in eastern europe. never mind the fact that she just had a fairly significant surgery. a new cnn poll shows her favorability rating is down to

51% from 57% last month. i don't know if i believe that. now that she's back in the public, the media, well, they found a new reason to pounce. today the first lady visited a texas shelter housing illegal immigrant children. good for her. but all the media could do was talk about her jacket. they want into a frenzy to search for the hidden meaning of the words emblazoned on the back of her jacket, which read, "i really don't care, do you." the first lady spokeswoman said, "it's a jacket, there was no hundred message. after today's important visit to texas, i hope the media isn't going to choose to focus on her wardrobe." of course, that was wishful thinking. let's discuss why the first lady just keeps getting the mean girl treatment from the media. the chief of staff, the first lady laura bush, and rachel campos duffy is in the fox news contributor. all right, rachel, the president did tweet out that it was a comment about fake news. in other words, melania doesn't care about the fake news, do

you? more importantly, it was a jacket from zara and it was $39. >> you remember when michelle obama went to a homeless feeding event or center and wore $500 sneakers. look, it is an odd choice to wear that. to be -- it's a head-scratcher. >> laura: who is their staffer? i don't want them to get mad at me. i'm not a fashion plate myself. sorry, i love the fox news -- but i'm more of a jeans and t-shirt type of person. but melania is so spectacular, she's so beautiful. that was an odd -- if it's a message, then say, "i'm goofing on newcomer media." because we may find out that that is what it is. it's a head-scratcher. i'm a political stylist, i would not have worn my jacket. >> laura: no logos. >> that said, all the amazing outfits that she's worn, they

never write about at all, if you don't want conservative press, you don't hear all of that, she makes one misstep, i am curious to see why she wore to. >> laura: a staffer should say, no. who knows, she probably just threw it on, just grabbing whatever is in the closet. >> i don't think melania just grabs anything. [laughter] >> laura: okay, so it was a message. is it genius, anita? >> i think that actually was the most valuable comment apropos, as a political staff, you understand the objects around things like that, and yes, i don't want to say anything negative about the staff, either, i know how tough their job is every single day, all the little nuances that you are trying to take care of. >> laura: you don't want to probably wear the stiletto manolo blahnik's -- >> i did love that, though. she looked fabulous. but then she took off her heels and for them to get onto air force one.

she put on her sneakers. but again, it is just a constant, constant attack on her, it never ends. let's face it, they think she is complicit in her husband -- >> laura: same thing with ivanka. they were trashing ivanka. they were going after her. nonstop trashing her. president trump was dashed by the way, we found out that a child, god bless that child, was not one of the children separated from their parents. they are using children as props on magazine covers as well. "the root" has a headline, "dear melania trump, please stop trying to be the moral compass for the white house. you are trash, too." >> outrageous. >> again, that is a message not just to melania, that is a message to all conservative women. they say that we're complicit, traitors because we choose to think for ourselves, and that is -- and they want -- it's a warning to anyone who dares to speak, the amazing, fabulous economic news and don't forget,

this week, what happened in duluth was sort of overshadowed by this event. this is the heart of union democrat working-class -- these have been for generations democrats, and he goes in there, saying, those democrats are losing working-class americans, and this is all an attempt to cover up all of that. >> laura: i have to say on the separating the children from the families, obviously, 500 reunited tonight, but the polling on this, as i suspected, people are not blaming president trump on this. they are blaming bad policies, and sadly, irresponsible parents, sending children, bringing children on these harrowing journeys. so the public is not worthy elites are on the border issue. everyone has compassion but they are not blaming president trump. >> i hope that they read what mrs. trump's statement was today after she returned to the white house. i thought it was a really

beautiful statement, her visit down there really moved her, and what she said, these children are in this position, not through their own fault, but the fault of adults. and that is why i wish the congressional picnic at happen tonight because she could have been our modern day dolley madison, going around all these members of congress. this is really up to you to fix this. ed is one of the few bipartisan events. i understand why they did that. >> laura: it would get trashed if they had it. >> no way they could have survived the media onslaught. your gas from the border patrol, almost 50% of border patrol are hispanic. what he said about those children, as those information starts to get out, thank you fon out, the detention centers are far safer than the journey that the little children just came on. i will say this, people aren't stupid. i spoke to an african-american who said, gosh, the conditions of the detention center are better than some of the projects

that i grew up in. people are looking at the sentencing, let's not blame the border patrol. they are doing the best they can come of the children were brought here under horrible, irresponsible circumstances. >> laura: and mrs. trump, i saw the first lady drum, this is how someone deals with children. my kids are always totally out of control. and she -- just the way she deals with them, gets down low with them -- you can tell someone by the way they treat children. for all of you trashing melania trump, nice try. not working. you are digging yourself into a deeper hole. >> you know what, laura, she is floating above all of it. >> laura: she is remarkable that way. >> she's winning over people's hearts very quietly in her own style and she refuses to do it their way. she's doing it her own way. >> laura: isn't that what we wanted women? she's not going to be like michelle obama. she's not going to be -- but if anyone says anything about the obama daughters like they said about barron trump and that

horrible comment about barron trump, they would be doing nonstop coverage of it. >> absolutely. >> laura: great panel, thank you so much to both of you. up next to my exclusive no details, what congress may do to doj and the fbi brass if they don't turn over those key documents. stay there. the great outdoors. make this summer last at bass pro shops and cabela's during our free family summer camp. plus get great deals on great gear. like flag chairs for under $13. and save 33% or more on select men's and ladies' teva sandals. bass pro shops and cabela's.

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fox's catherine herridge reporting and a trio of house german gave the doj and fbi three days to turn over a key last friday. two sources tell fox at committee chairs trey gowdy come about good luck, and devin nunes demanded records about intelligence activities and the fbi's alleged use of informants before it opened that russia collusion probe in july 2016. well, now that deadline has passed, house speaker paul ryan says that he has not ruled out citing deputy attorney general rod rosenstein for contempt of congress. let's discuss these developments with former whitewater deputy independent counsel's all and burger. former deputy assistant attorney general robert driskell. great to see both of you. robert, how serious is this, contempt of congress? the deputy attorney general? i mean, eric holder was held in contempt of congress over the fast and furious depth, nothing really happened here. how serious is it? >> i think it's pretty serious,

your own party threatening to hold you in contempt. i really do think the doj wants to avoid that at all costs, but i think that just the dispute here that doesn't look good for anyone right now. i think there is a lack of truct on both sides. after the ig report, i suspect when that comes out, people in the agency feel a little bit more free to talk about it because it's out there, some of their process they are working under are now gone, and i suspect that some people will probably be told what they should expect. when people on the hill don't see it, they are squawking about it. we'll see how it gets resolved. >> laura: saul, speaking about, the democrats are calling us all kind of deficient, and we have paul ryan apparently last friday, as katherine told us, not ruling out contempt of congress. people thought that ryan would back away from that but he hasn't. we are looking at a potential serious showdown tomorrow.

>> if you saw congressman gowdy over the weekend, he indicated, and i don't think i had ever seen him so mad, and he gives matt a lot, he indicated that contempt really wasn't enough. he said, we'll use the full panoply of the constitutional powers, and look what happened with fuller. who knows what they'll do. it's not clear to me whether or not there has been partial compliance so far. i guess we'll see. as to your other point about the procedural default of the subpoena that the democrats are claiming is there, do you really expect rod rosenstein to say, i would love to give this but the democrats say you've broken the rules. i don't see that happening. he's either going to give the stuff over or he's not. if he doesn't give it over, he is not going to rely on an internal rules violation that the democrats have brought up. >> laura: bob, do you think

anyone at the doj, you know, tipped off the democrats here on this? a a little curious. >> no, i think that stress the democrats looking into we can the subpoena. i totally agree. there is no way a republican doj is going to rely on a technical deficiency. >> laura: jeff sessions was on a radio show today, and talked about peter strzok. let's watch. >> is strzok still on the payroll of the fbi? >> mr. strzok, as i understand, has lost his security clearance. >> laura: yay! can't have the champagne, sol, lost his security clearance, was marched out of the business. not clear whether he just lost his security clearance, like, today, or whether that happened when he left the building. how much jeopardy is he in? could he be in any jeopardy other than losing his job at

this point, sol? we are thinking that documents might have been altered, that's another issue. we are looking at the 302 documents, not directly related to strzok himself. what else could happen here? >> i haven't heard that they are related to strzok. we have this very piecemeal news on that, that supposedly, according to congressman meadows, there was improper, potentially improper alteration of a 302, which, as you know, is what the fbi calls the reports of interviews with people who they question. but we have no idea what is meant by that. i read one account that andrew mccabe demanded that something be changed, but that is all total speculation at this point. you know, there are some ways in which 302s can be changed that are perfectly proper, and other ways that aren't. as far as strzok is concerned,

he has a search or due process rights as an employee. i don't think he is an any criminal trouble but i think he is a short timer for sure. >> laura: guys, thank you so much. fantastic panel. the latest unhinged lunacy from the left next.

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>> laura: rece davis aloft but the left hit a new low. a small mom-and-pop cafe in duluth, minnesota, suffered a huge backlash all because it hosted a segment of "fox and friends" this morning. let's find out exactly what happened from brit hume, the restaurant's general manager, and son of the owner, matt, believe it or not, i've been to duluth, and i have even been to your cafe. [laughs] i love minnesota. yeah, no joke. i have good friends who live not too far from you on one of the major lakes. i'm pretty sure i was in your cafe a couple of years ago. this was outrageous. you just decided to open up your doors to "fox & friends," and then you were hated upon. tell us what happened. >> yeah, when my mom decided that she would let "fox & friends" come in and do the interviews here this mornin morning, thought it was a great idea for this restaurant to expand to reach people on a new level. i don't think she really

understood the ramifications of the possibilities of what could happen. within probably 10 to 15 minutes into our facebook post, we had about 100 comments or so, and a lot were pretty negative, certain kind of grudge match grudge match. >> laura: [laughs] nasty. no, it was beyond nasty. >> yeah, it was beyond nasty. they were pinning us in a corner and making decisions for us without even talking to us. >> laura: matt, i got to read some of these. first of all, everyone has been to minnesota, everyone thinks of minnesota nice, okay? you guys are all supposed to be nice. by the leftist, they want to try to rip you to shreds because you had reduce the onset. it was ridiculous. gail said "sadly, i can't support the decision and will never return. i know nobody cares and you can call me snowflake and libtard and whatever you want, i just feel they made the choice, this is their choice, i support it,

i'm sure all you haters can fill the place." and other words, if you pay mike patronize the establishment -- by the way, love the taco omelette at uncle louise cafe -- if you patronize the establishment, you are a hater, is that what they are saying? >> pretty much. there was one thing about being a place for white supremacists. the company know that we have declared that for us. yeah, so it was pretty difficult to hear that, i break my mom's heart because we love the people of the city, for someone that has come here before, my mom has probably known the order and order in students a times, to have them say those things about us broke her heart. >> laura: your mother's not political. she's a small business owner. we always hear liberals, oh, they love mom and pop, shop local. no, it is boycott local or be mean to local pray they don't really mean shop local. shop local liberal store owners.

let me tell you, uncle louie's cafe in duluth, minnesota, everyone should go, patronize it, great food, great people. thank you so much, matt. we'll be right back. (director) cut! nice, candace, but this time bold. did someone say "bold?" (gasping) starkist jalapeo tuna in a pouch! loaded with bold flavor. just tear, eat... mmmmm. and go bold! try all of my bold creations pouches!

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within explanation of what's going on in washington, the choice between incompetent and conspiracy, always choose incompetent." that is it for tonight. we'll miss you, charles. shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team takes things from here. >> shannon: laura, thank you so much. we begin tonight with a fox news alert. house leaders say they will not be a vote tomorrow on the so-called compromise immigratio. reports from capitol hill today that lawmakers were wildly confused about what's in the bill and what's not. you'll hear from members from both sides of the aisle, they are live with us tonight. plus, a looming deadline tomorrow for the justice department. house republicans demanding answers and documents regardinge 2016 trump campaign. fox news has learned the details tonight about a rare meeting between the key players. and later, remembering our friend, charles krauthammer. hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i'm shannon bream in washington. a whirlwind week, as lawmakers