what i was meant to do. i love it and i think it is importan >> laura: good evening from washington i'm laura ingraham and this is the ingraham angle we end the week with some of the most moving and heart breaking stories you will ever hear. three angel moms are here with me tonight separated from their children forever by an epidemic of illegal immigrant crime. meanwhile, fox news has learned that a showdown between congress and the doj over that russia probe may come to a head tonight. and friday follies raymond explains the thinking behind the relaunch of roseanne without roseanne. that's going to work. but, first, the total emotional manipulation by the media over the current border crisis. it was the image that shocked the conscience of a nation or so the media told us. a little girl separated from

her asylum-seeking mother at the border. crying her eyes out. it's heart breaking. it was said to symbolize a cruel and heartless trump policy and the june 12th photo of the 2-year-old from honduras went viral in news coverage around the world. words like callus, soulless, craven, trump said the new york daily news. image of the child was so powerful "time" magazine paired it with the president to try to make, of course, a political statement. >> the cover says welcome to america. >> and iconic now iconic photo taken last week captured that girl as her mother was detained. >> first lady of the united states went to the border today, which was a good thing, but she did not accomplish as much as that little girl standing up to the first lady's husband on the cover of "time" magazine. >> the controversy over what's happening at the u.s. border has made a lot of people obviously step back

and asks what it means to be an american. and "time" magazine is doing it this way. >> laura: although ridiculed many trump supporters were skeptical of the image and with good reason. the crying child was real. the story behind it was not. her father said the girl and her mother were never separated and are still together at a family residential center run by ice in texas. border patrol agent carlos ruiz explained why the girl was crying. >> i personally went up to the mother and asked her are you doing okay? is the kid okay? and she said yes. she is tired and thirsty. it's 11:00 at night. >> laura: here is another twist. hernandez said his wife sandra was seeking political asylum but, in fact, went to the u.s. to find a good job. he also said she had already been deported from the united states. despite the fact that ice confirmed that the mother

and child were never separated, incredibly, "time" magazine is still defending the cover. while conceding that the original story misstated what happened and that quote the girl was not carried away screaming by a u.s. border patrol, "time" editor and chief edward doubled down in the statement insisting that the photo, quote: became the most visible symbol of the ongoing immigration debate in america for a reason. he said our cover and our reporting capture the stakes of this moment. so the magazine defends an emotional but totally misleading image because it makes their point toward their agenda. and i guess making the point, of course, is more important than reporting the facts, doing a little due diligence. the image has become a potent prop in the left continuing narrative that immigrant children are being held in something akin to concentration camps,

internment camps, et cetera. like this photo general mick protest held at the capital yesterday featuring a dozen children in my larr blankets like those given children at the border shelters. it's important that we could not blame the kids in protests like this one, they are kids. but we should blame the adults who use them in this way. turning them into pawns in a political struggle through their own propaganda. let's discuss the media's preference for emotional manipulation over the facts, democratic strategist joel payne, howard kurtz, host of fox news' media buzz and mark kirkorian. happy friday. when we first saw the image. i wonder if that child actually was separated from her parent and lo and behold she wasn't. >> this is precisely why trust in the media is plummeting. i understand why "time" magazine seems to run

anti-trump cover every other week or so wanted that iconic image on the cover. many of us in business assume she had been separated from are from mother. once that was proven to be false "time" magazine should have the candor and common decency we were wrong. we regret it not it's perfectly fine but it's a metaphor for the entire controversy. >> when we conservatives make mistake we are driven through threats and intimidation and we apologize. like i'm not perfect i have made mistakes on air. apologize. once you are on the air as afternoon as i am you say stuff. tired. when they screw this up, i have got to tell you it goes right to the core about the border goes unreported. selective reporting by out media. report one series of sad stories but completely ignore the chaos and the carnage on the other side of the immigration debate which we are going to get to later in the show with the angel mom. >> this kind of thing

happens all the time. it's not even an immigration thing. it is part of basically a long history of what you might call afrost city propaganda. the germans invaded belgium and people would say they are bayoneting babies and nuns. political point to create moral panic and stampede people. remember during out bush administration, the supposed epidemic of church burnings. again, made up, fake for political purposes. this is just part of that same kind of strategy. >> laura: joel, stefanie ra?l anchor on msnbc, got very much emotional as she was reporting on this story. let's watch. >> help us understand what this kind of damage does to these young people because they are going to be a member of society and it makes me think where do you think ms-13 was born? in los angeles. >> absolutely. >> oven see these angry gangs sprout up and i worry that you are creating

terminator type characters that will seek vengeance. we must care. >> laura: reinforce the immigration laws. people who cross our border. not through a normal port of entry but just walking across the border, if we enforce our laws, we are risking creating terminator-like characters. >> i'm sure i'm thought the only person up here who is not outraged that there are 2300, 2300 children. >> laura: can you answer the question we know how many children. they will all be reunited by sunday,. >> because "time" put something on their cover that was wrong that invalidates the entire story and it doesn't. 2300 children. >> laura: no, first of all, there are. >> separated from their mothers and fathers. >> laura: there are 1800. >> only 1800. i'm sorry. >> laura: talking over me isn't going to make the argue. any more logical. by sunday the administration has reported almost all of them will be reunited by june 24th. >> great.

i'm glad they finally came around to getting a plan together. >> laura: joel, you know, i assume, that when. >> that's what i'm worked up about. >> laura: you know, i assume, when the american media describes our enforcement of our immigration laws as concentration camps, internment camps, you are nazis, donnie deutsche. let's play this maybe joel will react to a sound bite. let's play it. >> if you vote for trump, then you, the voter, you, not donald trump, are standing at the border, like nazis, go you here, you here. i think we now have to flip it and it's given the evilness of donald trump. but if you vote. can you no longer separate yourself. if there are you going to react to that one or talk about the numbers. >> i will react. if it doesn't bother that you are children are being separated from mothers and fathers. >> do you know what bothers me. >> and put in internment camps that's exactly what it is. it's internment camps that's exactly what it is.

if you are comfortable with that and by the way i know had you a guest here yesterday. >> laura: talking over mere. >> we had a guest here yesterday they talked to some african-americans. well, i also talked to some african-americans. and i can tell you none of us thought what she said had any basis in reality. >> laura: i don't know what you're pointing out. >> rachel campos-duffy last night. >> laura: so what i think right now is that america wants to be fair and compassionate. yet, understand that we have a border that needs to be enforced. >> who said that? our president? does our president want to be fair. >> laura: i agree, joel our nation should have borders or no. >> of course it should have borders. >> when you have a border, joel, when an individual crosses the border, should that individual be prosecuted at all? >> we had a president who deported more people than anyone in history two years ago called barack obama called deporter in chief imagined to do it while respecting migrant fathers. >> laura: joel won't answer

the question. he says there should be borders but absolutely no y for crossing west border because if you are penalize someone you are a nazi going to concentration camp. these where the left is and that's why they are are going to get killed in 2020. you shed they are internment camps. cnn reported that you residential center where illegal immigrants are being held in virginia is clean and nice the children are being well cared for. actually brit hume works at those and it's a beautiful place where the kids are being taken care of very well unless you want to take some into your house and give them a better life that's what our government is able to do. >> let me jump in. there is a lot of emotion in this story. genuine emotion. fair criticism the way the administration has handled this and the conflicting stories. when you have this time cover particularly the president cry towering over crying toddler. then it tends to overshadow and maybe even make people

distrustful of those who are at least trying to do a fair job of reporting the story u. >> laura: mark? >> this isn't the only false example even in this debate. there was a story that spread like wildfire that a baby nursing at mother's breast was ripped away. >> laura: total lie. >> made up. kid dog kennel distributed by jose respectable journalist as if it was an actualening. panel display false or misleading images to stampede people against immigration. you are lawyer a federal distinct court in brownsville, texas in 2013 he had to hear one of the cases. it was a case about a human trafficker that had been aided and abethed by a parent in the united states who had already been deported once out of the united states. this is what he wrote: by fostering an atmosphere whereby illegal human

services. the government is not only allow them to fund the illegal activities of these cartels u also inspiring them to do so. by virtue of this dhs policy under obama, american citizens are helping fund these evil ventures with their tax dollars. that was 2013 in decks federal district court. we are creating a perverse incentive, joel, because, to inverse our laws means okay, we are a horrible, awful, rotten nazi concentration internment camp according to you. any time you imprison someone it's internment camp. if it's internment camp your choice is being called nazi or according to joel or you aid and abet the cartels which are getting, mark, you know this 15 to 20,000 per american to bring them to the border, correct? >> yes. >> what we're doing here specific to people who bring children.

the percentage of the people border patrol is arresting who have kids with them has been increasing significantly. it was just 3% of all arrest national weather service 2013. 18% of arrests in 2017. last month one quarter. >> he is saying that the policies encourage people to bring children. according to 15% of their time it's not their children. they are being piped up. mature way to enforce our borders and rules. by the way barack obama did it the fact that donald trump lied every week and says there is immigration crisis. do you want to know what the crisis is the ones create thud week by creating a ridiculous family situation policy. that's what the truth is that might not be convenient. but that is actually -- >> laura: you do know the federal judge who decided after the flores case that children cannot be held. >> i do.

>> laura: by dhs longer than 20 days. donald trump didn't write that opinion. donald trump didn't interpret the flores consent decree. >> it a strategy. >> laura: judge gee did that. >> it is a strategy by donald trump to separate these families. >> laura: it's not a strategy. >> it's a mask of fact. jeff sessions. >> laura: steve stephen bannon is not in the white house anymore but nice try. howie, i think can you do fair criticism as the way you said the way the white house decided to roll this out. they didn't get ready for the images are powerful. no one want to see a child crying. no one wants to see any mother u that little girl on the cover of "time" magazine i see the thousands of kids that i have seen in guatemala. on the streets in villages, in organ knowledges to get a hug they are happy. to have a ball. just to have someone play with them they are happy. they are desperate for attention, love and sometimes food. they are desperate to see that picture is a heart

breaking thing as a mother u. >> and. >> and as a father. when the family did end family separations and still families to be reunited at least now he is doing the right thing in their view it was like well it was too late. he should have done. this never give them the benefit of the doubt. just quick word on children in blankets at that center yesterday. everybody has a right to protest. to use out kids as props says to me some of these protesters are more interested in scoring political points and getting in front of the cameras. >> laura: there were 12 kids, 12 and 13 years old. one of them very articulate like president trump is insofar as rating these children. it was amazing, 12 years old. i don't think i could have said that at 12. something about using kids in a protest. i have never liked it. >> or being in a cage. don't put a child in a cage. great panel. spirited on a friday night. is this how out radical left has become on on -- calling

forrable enter ration all together. that includes actress turned candidate for governor cynthia nixon. >> ice has strayed so far from its mission it's supposed to you be here to keep americans safe. but what it's turned into is frankly a terrorist organization of its own that is terrorizing people that are coming to this country. >> they have strayed so far from the interest of the american people and the interest of humanity, we need to abolish it. >> laura: we need facts in the city not sex in the city. and she is not alone. ntsb reports that 15 democratic congressional candidates are calling for this defunding or dismantling of immigration customs enforcement. back to my point. we don't want any borders, right? no borders at all. let's discuss this with hector garza, vice president of the national border patrol council. hector, i know you drove two hours to be on this show tonight. that's so inspiring. thank you so much. i know you have had a long

day. when you hear ice being described as a terrorist organization, and, again, she a candidate for senate, but she physicalled around by all these media folks because she a former actress and so forth. what runs through your mind? i think ice and border patrol is like 50% hispanic at this point. so, to hear concentration camp, internment camp and now terrorist organization. what's your reaction? >> shame on her. she is offending ice agents and border patrol agents. these are the law enforcement officers that go go out there every single day to risk their lives to serve it american community and protect our country. it's very unfortunate she would be separating this type of hateful rhetoric. >> laura: one of the wrote in the heritage foundation yesterday website he talked about who is responsible for

this. because, you know, the left will say donald trump created this crisis. it's all donald trump. no one else is responsible. i think a fair assessment and the trump administration made a decision that to stop the crush at the border we had to do zero tolerance. that's what their decision was. but, there are other decisions made along the way, hector, that you see every day. parents sending children alone on 1800-mile journey. parents deciding to bring children with them on 1800-mile journey through very dangerous territory to present themselves at non-legal crossing united states. that is a responsibility that they decided to take on and there are consequences as there are in mexico when you are caught crossing the board illegally. >> parents bringing the kids over here are breaking the law. not only breaking the law but endangering kids bring along for the journey. it's unfortunate in we take take action it will be by

doing so is going to put a lot of them in danger. a lot are going to get killed, murdered raped. a lot of them won't make it through mexico because mexico is dangerous country. >> central america. if we're going to care. >> that's et's care. let's care about illegal aliens not being place news back of tractor trailers in 120-degree heat. let's be real and go to the facts. not about the made up situation at the border with separating families. unfortunately these people broke the law and they need to be held accountable. the people in these countries should thought be coming here because they will be breaking the law as as well. >> laura: hector, what is your thought on what might happen with the numbers approaching the border nowed that the president has announced there wouldn't be any separation of families. they didn't back off on the zero tolerance. they are not going to

separate families. do you think that will encourage more people to come or the news will take a while to get down to central america? >> so, laura, it's definitely going continue to crease. we saw it in 2014 under the obama administration. under the obama administration. everybody was under catch and release. these people were crossing the border, unaccompanied minors were crossing the border. we were releasing them into the country to their relatives. all that caused was more illegal immigration. more people making this dangerous from central america. and resources being overchem here in the united states. >> something is very important, laura, the obama administration so much legal closings that a lot of people that's true border patrolling. rev hadn't to water future. under the obama situation they are being taken care of and being provided with medical services and food and shelter and proper detention facilities.

that wasn't happening in the obama administration. it's happening now. >> laura: hector, thank you so much. fox news has learned a crucial moment in congress' oversight battle on the russia probe may arrive tonight. we'll explain. stay there. hi!

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the showdown with the justice department and congress. reporting the doj has not given investigators key do you remember are do you remember it is they will ask tonight for more time or explain why it cannot comply with the subpoenas. let's slus the implications with tom implications with judicial watch president tom fitton attorney and rnc national committee woman harmeet dhillon and scott bolden. great to see all of you. let's start with you harr harmeet. this has been a wild taffy pull with the documents with the doj. i want to play for all of you my exchange a few days ago jeff sessions on this very issue. we knew tonight it was going to come to a head. let's watch. >> they are out of patience. they feel like they have been asking for these documents. some of these documents end up showing ig report that

congress asked for months and months and months ago. you were in congress. you know what it's like to do oversight. it's really frustrated. >> you are right. >> laura: holding rosenstein in contempt of congress. then what? >> we have a responsibility to respond to congress. we intend to be responsive to congress. if we are running behind in production, we will take efforts to step it up. >> laura: harmeet, big last friday come to jesus moment with rosenstein and wray and so far haven't gotten the documents. >> i don't think they are running behind, laura. they are running notice the opposite direction with these documents. the subpoena was actually exactly three months ago. the due date was two months after the subpoena. it's two and a half months late now. we saw last week jim jordan get very angry over the fact that the text messages that the most damning ones were given by the inspector general to the doj for

production and there is no explanation as to why they were held. documents given heavily redacted. critical to analyzing particularly the fisa issue. so of the three topics of that subpoena, only one and a half of those things has really been satisfied at this point. the topics were that hillary clinton emails, the mccabe firing which i think has been addressed now and the fisa thing is completely unaddressed. what is the doj hiding? why are they hiding it and why do they think the normal rules don't apply to them? it's really quite shocking. >> laura: scott, i think what the concern is we were told that the investigation kind of began the end of july. now they have new information that indicates it began before then. a lot of contact with the state department, with the steele dossier. a lot of people at state department were reading over the steele dossier. i think that's the concern. i know you think this is much ado about nothing. give me more context over this showdown tonight. showdown at the okay corral about the documents. [laughter] >> i certainly don't think it's much to do about nothing.

i also don't think doj is running from their responsibilities on -- with a congressional subpoena. here's the deal, laura. there is a balance here, as you know as a lawyer, that -- sure, we have got to have congressional compliance with subpoenas. at the same time we have ongoing investigation. highly sensitive information, including fisa warrants that go to a secret court as well as all of these other documents that doj and fbi are concerned about turning over because they don't want to prejudice their investigation or mueller's investigation. they don't want to give up the identity willy-nilly to their secret sources or confidential sources. then the president himself is the subject of this investigation regardless of what he said. there has got to be a balance. my concern here and i think what the doj's concern is what happens with these documents after i have turned them over? will they be politicized? will nunes run to the white house and share them? >> laura: come on. you are still on that old

probe. >> g.o.p. chairman. those are fair balances. >> laura: run over to the documents. the documents -- i hear what you say but, tom. >> republicans stop fighting over documents. they control all three houses. >> laura: they want to know why this investigation was really started. the mueller popularity his approval has gone down from 47% according to cnn poll in december now it's down to 41%. obviously comey's numbers are in the toilet 32% of people supporting him. is it no wonder really that people are losing faith in this process given what we are seeing? >> everything that's come out has undermind the mueller investigation. that he was why we are getting this modified limited approach by the justice department. extraordinary to see this justice department attach and undermine and the democratic talking points aren't too far off from the justice department talking points and going after the oversight function of congress. remember, we have the allegations that rosenstein threatened a criminal investigation because the oversight was too aggressive towards him and the justice

department. what are they hiding here? >> laura: you guys are always suing freedom of information act to get documents. would could they been working overtime not to release these documents. why are they not revealing what's in these documents? what's the reason. >> highlight the political nature of the beginning of the russia investigation. >> laura: who knew what when. >> how, when and why. not only the dossier but generally the targeting of donald trump which began even before the dossier was used by the justice department and fbi dossier created by the clinton campaign. >> laura: the daily mail, harmeet, camped out at the house of sally moyer. she traded these anti-trump texting with anti-lover. a lot of love going on at the fbi. a lot of hookups over there. aren't they a little busy?

getting more interesting at the fbi. >> laura: i'm working at the wrong -- since her name was revealed by congress we know who she is. she referred to trump voters as retarded. she used the f bomb when it comes to trump. you have got these radical, i mean, she looks like central casting of feminist from dartmouth. look the old women's studies major at dartmouth. textbook stuff. if a conserving used the word retarded, that's the end of their career. she uses it in a text message and she is still working at the fbi. >> right, fbi leadership and doj leadership for that matter appear to be tone deaf to the bias that is very evident in the staffing of all of these investigations. i feel and i think a lot of other americans feel that the inspector general report that we saw last week only scratches the surface. we don't know because he doesn't have subpoena power

of a lot of stuff that's gone on there. there is a conspicuous absence of any text messages or emails from the department of justice. that's a black box with the bias that's going on there. we saw a little bit of the bias of doj with this paralegal yesterday who moon lights as a protester at night at mexican restaurants. >> laura: is that kirstjen nielsen mexican dinner. that was fun. >> exactly. they all have a right to their views. let's be clear. they all have a right to private views and what have you. where we have to draw the line is where people like rod rosenstein are staffing investigations u. >> laura: partisan. >> that's outrageous. >> laura: scott, we have no time. scott, you would be upset, yes or no, if text messages came out against obama or hillary calling obama supporters retarded and saying that, you know, f obama and was investigating obama or hillary. you would be bothered by that correct? >> well, certainly inappropriate. but, until it shows that it effects the outcome or the investigation. >> laura: we got the

documents? come on, scott, you are bothered. i know you are bothered. we love you too much not to be bothered. >> if it doesn't affect the investigation. borrow. >> laura: but you don't know until you get the documents. should we get the documents yes or no? >> we are going to get some documents. >> investigation going on. >> we're going to get some documents. >> investigation going on. >> we're going to get some documents and they are going to come out in dribs and drabs over the next few weeks and months. we will be talking about that fight i betcha. >> laura: dribs and drabs but not the fundamental documents showing that missing time period in the spring, right? that missing time period. >> they are protecting the mueller investigation. the congress should be asking where the documents are. that's who is being protected here. >> laura: tom fitton, harmeet, scott. >> but there is an ongoing investigation. why shouldn't they be sensitive to that. >> laura: up against a hard break. score sorry scott. going to go to black. raymond roseanne reboot without roseanne. roseanne is back without

roseanne.

time for friday follies. >>y like that. that is good. i like that, now. here is the question that sounds like's zen riddle. can there be rows ann tv without rows ann. here to answer that will wild e raymond, rose ain't i was excited, back without rows ann. >> well, yeah, well, she just gave her rights away. so the rest of her staff, the 200 people working on the show could continue working. the problem is this, abc is going to relaunch her show, they are calling it the conors, so it will focus on the family. john goodman, sara gilbert. here's the problem. disney was on the hook for tens of millions of dollars which they owed this staff, this crew. so they figured we will rename the show.

we will relaunch it and give them ten episodes. one of the staff told me through a friend, they may not get 11. and there is good reason to think that, laura. without roseanne, that central chaotic, fascinating and politically balanced figure for the show, she gave the balance. she was representing conservative america. without that balance, i think the show is tilted in one direction. and won't work. and there are a string of these shows, laura. >> laura: give me the list. i want the list. give me the list. >> i will give them to you. the ropers. remember the spinoff of the ropers. normal fell three companies and it did not work. >> laura: you are really going back. >> i will give you more contemporary one. remember joey the friends spinoff. that one season it was gone. then "the golden girls." golden girls this popular franchise bee arthur leaves the show. all the other golden girls said we want to continue going. they launched something called the golden palace

where they ran a hotel. well, it closed in one season. the fortune cookie didn't look good. then there was gloria. all in the family spinoff. well, it was an all in the family spin off. sally struthers did not work. only thing i have to remember frances she is coming back with the thane. you will have somebody to watch the kids. >> laura: one person who tom arnold bizarrely claimed earlier today that he and michael cohen were working together it take down trump? raymond, what is that about? >> well, he took, there was a tweet released of the two of them in a hotel lobby. now, he then said tom arnold that he and cohen the president's former lawyer have been meeting. that they had six meetings and this was photographic evidence that they had met. he then went on cnn and talked to poppy harlow. listen to this. >> donald trump, ivanka trump, i am spending the weekend hanging out with

michael cohen. and there is a lot going on. so, have you disrespected him. and his family. and there is a lot going on. so, he gets to sleep -- that's good enough for me. this is too important to me to f around. and you know the word i'm talking about. i have a 5-year-old son and 2-year-old daughter. that's really why i'm doing the show. we are having fun with these trump tapes. but this is serious to me poppy, i'm not f'ing around. >> laura: is he a class act. >> something is wrong with this man, laura. is he loaded like a drunken michael moore. a new series on vice land where is he chasing down the trump tapes. here is the long story short. michael cohen and tom arnold have since tweeted that they aren't actually working together. in fact, he just -- he is as close to michael cohen as i am to michelle obama. i was american library association here today. i guess i could say i spent the afternoon with the first lady. i actually attended her

talk. that's about the relationship that he has with michael cohen. he met him in the lobby of a hotel. this is much ado about nothing trying to promote a lame show. >> laura: too much time on that. controversy now swirling around this new abc show called the proposal. what's that about? >> i'm surprised you are not watching the proposal, laura. >> laura: no. no. >> this is right up your alley. what's happened is one of the contestants claimed that another contestant set her up for a date rape. these are serious charges and certainly not laughing matter at all. abc spiked the episode that it was to run the second in the series because of these allegations. but then i looked at the show. it's no wonder this stuff is going on. this is like a pimping pageant where people parade in front of a contestant and they get to choose which of the five contestants they will offer a proposal to. watch this. >> ten people looking for love.

>> i'm ready for the love that people write movies about. >> a new series from the producers of the bachelor. >> every day you meet your future soul mate. >> in life great rewards come taking great risks. >> taking her chance. >> i feel like my heart is going to explode. >> it all happens in one hour. >> will you marry me? >> laura: you know what i like about these shows, raymond is that when the girl or the young man or the woman or the man doesn't get picked, like on one of these shows, she act like they have just lost the love of their life they just met them 15 minutes ago. we had such a connection. you spent 12 minutes with them oh my god they in the limo crying. oh my god. >> every time they walk into a singles bar these people must get suicidal. i have never seen anything like it. this show the proposal, laura, makes the bachelor look like something victorian era. trivialized marriage and love. sexist. in the me too movement and era i'm stunned have you

people parading around and having people to do swimsuit expose i will go with you but not you. this really i want to, you know, proposals are easy. marriage is hard. i want the camera to follow these people home after their 60 minute proposal. that's how much time they have exposed to this person. 60 minutes before. >> laura: best is when they do the recap show after the show is completed and then they all sit around saying yeah, she is a real nightmare. he was awful. and they sit around and just complain to each other. guess that's the highest rating of all the shows. this is why i don't watch tv anymore. >> i want to see the woman hitting the guy with a pan over the head for his night out and that he is snores. that's the stuff we want. the complaints. >> laura: did you and michelle obama have any conversation today or nothing? >> i did not. i just watched carla hayden, the librarian of congress interview the first lady. she talked about for the coming memoir. i thought we would have more news for you. she talked about raising

maliyah and sasha and the first grandmother being there. she said she had a therapy room upstairs that all the staff as well as michelle regularly visited. all of that and more in her forthcoming memoir. >> laura: i like her mother seems like the coolest person. i like marianne robinson. >> she is the untold story of the obama years. >> laura: she knows all. i want to read her memoir. raymond, thanks so much. up next, a segment you cannot miss. lost in all the concern over illegal immigrants this week is the intense suffering of our own citizens at the hands you have criminal illegals. in main, three angel moms come out of the shadows to share their own story. >> we weren't lucky enough to be separated for five days or ten days. we were separated permanently.

>> we're gathered today to hear directly from the american victims of illegal immigration. you know, you hear the other side. you never hear this side. these are the american citizens permanently separated from their loved ones, the word permanently being the word that you have to think about permanently. they are not separated for a day or two days. these are permanently separated. our first duty and our highest loyalty is to the citizens of the united states. we don't want people in our country that don't go through a process. we want people in our country based on merit. >> laura: that is president trump at the white house

today laundering angel families those who lost loved ones to immigrant crime. the great debate has been over the separation of children from their parents crossing the border illegally u of course we have great sympathy for the border crossers after these dangerous journeys and we want to see them well-cared for. other parents who will never see their children again and they were the victims of crime by illegal immigrants also many of whom who cross the border, of course, illegally not oversaying visas. we have the privilege tonight of introducing you to three angel moms. michelle root, marie and marcene. thank you for your courage and making your voices heard throughout this process. i know it's really difficult to speak about what happened to you and your family. we think it's important for your voices to be heard by all of america michelle, i want to start with you. your daughter, a beautiful

21-year-old. she was killed by an illegal who was released on bail. tell us the story. >> sarah had just graduated from bellevue university in bellevue, nebraska. she was out celebrating with friends. on her way home stopped at a stoplight. a man dink drinking and driving street racing, his blood alcohol was .241 rear ended sara going 70-plus miles an hour. he come to our country illegally, unaccompanied minor at age 16 crossed our borders and was taken to a sanctuary city in california where he was met up with his brother in tennessee who was also illegal. they moved to omaha, nebraska and i believe it was 2014 he came over at 16 in 2014 e. 13 and killed

sarah in 2016. >> laura: he was released on bail. somehow he managed to scrounge up 5,000, $10,000. he never showed up for his trial. is he a fugitive from justice? >> yes, correct. correct. >> laura: have the authorities until california who is looking for him. >> ice is now of course the new administration. he is on fugitive task force. the task force most wanted list. and that's all we know at this point. >> laura: did senator ben sasse from nebraska, did he reach out to you after this happened? >> he did as my. >> laura: good. >> my iowa representative senator grassley and senator ernst, senator fisher also from nebraska. >> laura: maureen, your son matthew was killed. >> yes. >> by an illegal immigrant. >> yes. >> tell us his story.

>> matthew was 23 years old. he had recently graduated from college also. weighs on his way home from helping a friend. he was riding his motorcycle in downtown area that had 20 mile-per-hour speed limit. nicholas drinking all day criminal illegal alien ran through a stop sign and collided with matthew's motorcycle. matthew flew off the motorcycle, landed on the hood and rolled off the truck and according to witnesses, he survived the initial collision and he was getting up out of the street when nicholas guaman fled and ran him over dragging him a quarter of a mile to his death while witnesses were begging with him to stop the truck. he had 6-year-old in the truck with him when he did this. then he drug matthew a quarter of a mile. he ran over a curb, matthew became dislocked he backed over matthew again and continued to flee. left matthew to die. >> do you know when he came into the country ill legally. >> he came into the country 2004.

>> laura: he is in prison still? >> he is in prison. he was convicted and sentenced to 12 to 14 years. >> laura: 12 to 14 years doesn't seem like a long time to me, does it. >> right. in massachusetts you get 30% of your sentence taken off for good behavior so he will be getting out. >> laura: sabina german legal immigrant tell me about the son who killed your son. >> illegal from guatemala, two felonies he committed and got pled down to one. he was deported. came back, was arrested for drunk driving. received probation. was arrested again while on probation with drunk driving and they gave him probation again in riverside, california. >> laura: sanctuary state? >> of course. at that time it wasn't a sanctuary state but riverside was a sanctuary city. five weeks later he took his unregistered unlicensed uninsured truck and my son was going to work as 911 sheriff's dispatcher for sheriff's department. going on his motorcycle and dominique was hit by this

guy thrown into a wall and killed instantly. >> laura: we will continue with these stories and the action of president trump when we return.

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with three very special women angel moms. michelle root, maury malone and sabine durbin. all of them have lost family members, sons to illegal immigrant crime. forever separated from them. sabine, you said the killer of your son, how long in jail? >> 35 days. >> laura: 35 days. >> 35 whole days. his mother was probably drying real hard. >> laura: paul begala said this today about the trump meeting with all of you. let's watch. >> he knows what he is doing. he is taking this raw, real pain these poor families are suffering which is authentic and politicizing it. right? it is monstrous to take these folks' pain and use to to try to divide america. >> laura: michelle? >> i don't even know how to respond to that that is so angry because our voices need to be heard. our children's voices need to be heard.

we need to hear the other side of this. >> laura: your daughter is beautiful. your son is beautiful. >> very angry. very angry. >> laura: maureen? >> you know, it's ridiculous. i was speaking out against this long before trump announced he was even running to be president. our children need to have a voice and we are trying to raise awareness and educate people and prevent future deaths. >> laura: this is kathy griffin, sabine, so-called comedian. message to the parents who are on stage with trump at this press conference. i'm so sorry for your loss but the man you are standing with, trump, could give two s, she can't tweet without swearing he is using you for propaganda, sabine. what do you have to say to kathy griffin. >> i want her to meet me face to face and tell me how this is propaganda. this is my son's ashes in here. he is the only man that brought this to the forefront. she needs to go into a little back alley and entertain the two people

that are still following her. she has no -- she just has no ground, she has no soul and no heart. i pray to god she never knows this feeling. >> laura: mitchell salvador ran man crossing the border. >> a man and daughter were arrested in texas by border agents. i was told my daughter and i had to get on different buses because there wasn't enough room, he says. buff when they were driven to mcallen where many my grants are being processed 6-year-old maybelline was suddenly nowhere to be seen. i said where is my daughter? don't separate us. don't let us in but don't rip us apart, he says. >> laura: emotional, your reaction. >> i was ripped apart from sara and you're accountable for your action. you are the one that crossed that border illegally with your child. you were not looking out for your child. >> i concur with michelle.

we didn't have a choice. our children were ripped from our lives. they have a choice. >> laura: women across the country have a heart for all victims of crime, including these women. we'll be right back.

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>> laura: these are my new friends. it's a great privilege to be with these women. it's been a big week. we started in los angeles. we start in san francisco, then

los angeles, went down to the >> these are my new friends, a great privilege to be with these women tonight. it has been a big week on the younger male, we started in los angeles, then san francisco,o, went to the border, did a show with them and are headed to washington where we are joined by women who speak out even though they are being hit interest on social media by radical leftists. we are with you. ♪ >> the debate over immigration continues, democrats refusing to come to the negotiating table are being denied a spot as they claim? the way house republicans are scrambling together votes needed to pass legislation that would overhaul what both sides agree is a broken system. dan patrick is live with us to tell us what is happening. national security adviser john bolton is going to moscow to discuss the summit with