with us. might be one lone crazy who decided to take out his wrath on innocent victims today. our coverage continues. you are watching fox news. >> kimberly: this is a fox news alert. police reported five fatalities after shots fired inside the maryland newsroom the capital gazette. a suspect has been apprehended and is being interviewed but police are working to clear the scene. going to trace gallagher with the latest. >> we just learned a few minutes ago there are five dad which is why we stay away from numbers in this case is because they are always wrong. the five dead is the first time we had heard that all day long. police finally confirming at a short time ago. we know other people are injured. they are saying several injuries and we know that one of them is being held at a local medical center and another was being

held at the anne arundel county medical center which is now on lockdown for some reason. it's a little less than a mile away from the scene of the shooting, and the question is, we don't know why it's on lockdown. it's got two patients there, and for the time being, the hospitals on lockdown. we have some highways to go through there, major intersections are also being shut down for the time being. we should point out the suspect apparently gave up without a fight. one of the reporting on scenes had stopped firing. he didn't know why he stopped firing, and then police surrounded him, and he gave up. by now we would know a lot about the suspect, maybe has social media footprint, the reason why he may have been in that building or near that building and if he had posed any threats at an earlier time. we are being told the suspect, a male in his 20s, apparently did not have i.d. on him and because he didn't have i.d. companies not cooperating with police. it's unclear if police have identified him.

there's a very good chance they have. but in these instances, there's reasons why names don't leak out. we almost always get initial names that we check out. you don't vote with them until police come from them, but in this case, we have gotten no release any kind of identity of the shooter at all. this is one of the oldest newspapers in the country. it's been around for some 200 years. we checked things like the ideological bent, what is the paper cover, is there a motive or reason why this paper might have been targeted. covers things like local politics, the capital, naval academy. it came in favor of a democratic, moderate candidate in the last primary, but there doesn't seem to be any kind of severe ideological bent the paper had which would lead you to think that the motive might play a part in that. the concern the police have right now is that our other

media organizations being threatened? this particular one didn't have any security at all. we heard reports he's shot through glass window but the building was unsecured so anybody could just walk in an open fire. we are being told the weapon was a shotgun but again police have not confirmed that. it's owned by the baltimore sun. earlier the baltimore sun was also swept as a security precaution. there was no threat there. there is no reason to do that,, and others and media companies even in new york that are being guarded with extra security by the nypd to make sure that there are no further threats. right now, we are trying to get some word on who the shooter was and why he walked in to one of the oldest newspapers in the country, kimberly, and opened fire. >> kimberly: interesting details there, as the facts begin to emerge. like you said, trace, the official who came outside from a tactical standpoint, the area, perimeter is secure which means they don't believe there are any

other accomplices or other shooters, active shooters in the area. so that's good. i guess the troubling aspect, there hasn't been any positive identification would probably explain why we have very little shooter information, just a white male in his 20s. they said it's active in terms of an investigative standpoint inside the building, still trying to recover ballistics and forensics to identify the type of weapon used in exactly the specific location where the shooting occurred. is that correct? >> it's a good point because what happens is when they go through these types of situations, there's always the standard operating procedure, a checklist, if you will, as to how they go about doing these things. we should note that inside the building, the capital gazette is just one of the many businesses and they. there is a cardiac care unit, dentists, lawyers, other businesses in there. there are 55 employees we know

of at the capital gazette, and we are told many of them because they are reporters, or actually out in the field doing their job. so we don't know exact how many were inside but when they process seems like this, the reason that clearly it is still an active scene is because you have the coroner on scene or about to arrive for the five bodies still inside, and then you have to find out. there were reports that may be explosive on the campus. that has not been confirmed. that's kind of a standard procedure police go through emerson's columbine to see if the place may have been cased, if this might've been preplanned and that explosives might've ben part of the attack scene. that's one of the things, along with multiple shooters, that every police department go through. we believe everybody inside the building has been evacuated who is able to walk out. we know in these types of situations, people can shelter in place. they often do, and they often at the last people to leave the

building. in this case, police are telling us that everyone who was inside, all the offices, whether it's the dental office or newspaper, have been taken out of the building. it's now, the coroner is on scene. it's a crime scene, in this building will be closed for several days to come while they process this crime and try to figure out a motive. >> kimberly: trace, we are going to take it around the table for more questions. >> greg: i know that there's a question of whether this was part of some kind of trend and people are worried if there are other targets in the media. because this isn't just a crime scene, it's also a newspaper. i am trying to remember how often does this occur? i've only come up with two shootings, one from august 2015 when a reporter was shot on live television by a former colleague. in august 2007 at the oakland post, an editor was murdered to prevent a story coming out. so these things are incredibly

rare, and i wonder if it's wise that people in the media sees this as some of other disturbing trend that may be begin, when the variables we know, a male in his 20s, which you have heard before so we know that it could be anything. stick with it could be anything. you go back to charlie hebdo in france, and you don't know if there is some reason, an ideological reason. in that case there was. we don't think there is here because the paper itself doesn't appear very ideological. it's a local newspaper and they cover local topics. they do endorse candidates. i'm not sure if that upset anybody, i'm not sure if there was a local investigation into some business that these local newspapers want to do. as far as we can see, at least on the face of it, there doesn't seem to be any outward reason why this paper would be targeted. the second question becomes, this person didn't walk into the

office and go after certain people. the reporting we have from phil davis, it was amazing stuff, very compelling. he said he simply walked up to a glass window and opened fire. if you did not hear it, phil davis gave this amazing interview to the baltimore sun which is the parent company and he said, and i want to read part of it. he said "i am a police reporter. i write about this stuff, not necessarily to this extent but shootings and death all the time. as much as i'm going to try to articulate how traumatizing it is to be hiding under your desk, you don't know until you are there. and you feel helpless." he went on to say "i don't know why. i don't know why he stopped," meaning the shooter. he said he opened fire. his colleagues were being shot around him. he was under the desk, and then there shooters suddenly just stopped. he said the police surrounded him and by all accounts, the shooter gave up without a fight. as to why he went in there, asked why he targeted this,

that's the primary focus of the investigation going forward. >> kimberly: dana, they have these witness statements, find out and piece together what happened. >> dana: i have a question for you. during neil cavuto's hour, they had the press conference the police department in one of the things they said is that we know from trace that he didn't have identification, so they might not know who he is. how long is it before, apprehending somebody and questioning them. what is the thinking from a prosecutor standpoint if you are doing an investigation? how much time do you want to wait before you go in there and talk to them? >> kimberly: the first thing to do a security perimeter and make sure there is no other suspects were accomplices and make sure there are no weapons or other items that could be explosive devices that could detonate and cause further casualties. once you do that, you begin the investigatory aspect of it and then you go through and take the witness statements. the primary concern would be the suspect, especially when you

take simone into custody and they are alive. you have to determine their identity. they're going to print them and run him through the system and try to identify who it is they're dealing with and then try to obtain witness statements and specifically get the suspect to waive his rights and get some statements to make sure there isn't anything else being planned in the works, other people he might've been working with on the outside. they want to determine ownership of the weapon. how did he obtain it. was it someone who had mental illness or other device that is house? other devices at another place of work that he might work out or something else that was planned in the future. it's quite involved. their primary concern at this point, besides attending to the people injured, god bless, is identity of the suspect. jesse, you have a question. >> jesse: trace, terry is about the security posture inside the building. when the gunman goes inside the building, is there any security

guard there? are there metal detectors? did he have to reach a security barrier in order to gain entry and start firing? when he does open fire, how long was he firing through the glass window before he was neutralized by, police officers already on the scene? were they called in or was it a security team that was operating inside the building? do you know? >> all good questions. when i was on earlier, i was saying that when i go into newsrooms, newspapers in small towns, big towns, television stations. every single newspaper and newsroom i've been in has security. security that you have to walk through because there is this feeling in this country the newsrooms, and greg pointed out there's been very few of them, but there's a feeling in america that newsrooms, news reporters may be targets. we are being told by the manager of this office building that there is no security at all. you can simply walk right in the building and you can walk right

in to the headquarters of the capital gazette. so there was no security at all. we were told this person had a shotgun and then we walked in he opened fire through a glass window. it's unclear if the glass window was the first window that he came upon and he just open fire or if he walked around through the cubicles and found a glass window in an office and opened fire. that's all very unclear at this point in time. we civilly know that he opened fire, and from phil davis' reporting, the crime reporter who i read you hit account a short time ago, he said he open fire. he got under his desk. he kept firing, and then he suddenly stopped. he didn't hear anything. he doesn't know why he stopped, but the man stopped. as far as one police arrived, we are told police were actually on scene within 60 seconds of the shots being fired, and that the shooter was surrounded and the shooter gave up. there was no exchange of

gunfire. by all accounts, this man simply gave up, and now we are being told he did not have an i.d. on him. and that police are trying to figure who he is and what is motivated, but but it's also interesting because dana makes a good point. or kimberly makes a good point. normally he would have a second scene. they would have this shooter's house under surveillance are being searched right now to find out if there's a motive in there. so far, our cameras have been focused on the actual shooting scene at the newspaper and no other scene, which is at this point in the investigation, somewhat odd, because there would be a car. they would be an extra home. there would be some location that they would go to, a secondary location, that would glean more information that might tell no more about why this person did what he did. >> kimberly: juan has a question. but usually they go right away and examine the suspects vehicle

alert see if there's identifying papers, information, now they are going to see the casings at the scene and collect the ballistics to determine how many shots were fired and exactly what the weapon was. >> juan: so the door wasn't locked. you were mentioning there was no security but i was wondering if there was a locked door and if he fired a shotgun, is that the way he gained access to the newsroom? >> it's a great question, juan. police haven't told us that. i don't know if the door was locked but my understanding was that this was a sweet inside an office building and that the windows are not on the outside of a hallway. the assumption would be he opened the door to get into the suite. the mailing address does have a sweet number. we're not saying that's the only suite they own or that's the primary reason nor the place the shooting took place but from the account of the person who actually runs this building, there is no security and then he was able to walk in and i guess

from what he says walk in, he must mean the front door. the assumption would be that he would have walked into a primary front door downstairs, go up to the suite and open the door of the suite and from there, we don't know. but the reporter on the scene says that he shot through a glass window at the people he was shooting at, which brings up the point, was he targeting somebody? did he know a person or was he shooting at random because he had some type of vendetta against the capital for some prior experience? we don't know. >> kimberly: we are going to ask you to stay with us. we will bring in kristin fisher, life at the scene. >> >> still a ton of questions. one thing that is certain is that this could have been so much worse. it's already bad but it could've been so much worse if these first responders didn't get here

when they did. the first officers on the scene within 60 seconds. that's how fast they were. they are being praised right now for the quick response, and i just got on the scene a few minutes ago. it's remarkable how many police officers, patrol units, how many bob squats, ambulances, how many police cruisers are all over the place. it really is a tremendous presence. we have helicopters up in the air. that's kind of reset. we all know this started around 2:30, 2:45 this afternoon. the gunman went to the office building. you can see at just behind me. it's the brown brick building with the numbers 888 on the side. looks like there was a lot of windows. that's where the capital gazette newspaper, their offices are, but it's an office building that houses many other companies as well. doctors offices, things of that nature. the shooter apparently went to

the front door of the capital gazette newspaper, shot through it. we are told, according to the building manager, there was no real security. he or she was just able to walk right in. the gunmen shot through that front door, a glass door, and proceeded to open fire. as we've been hearing from one of the reporters of the capital gazette, actually the guy who reported on crime and the courts here in anne arundel county, he said the shooter open fire while all the employees were hiding under their desks and he said one of the most terrifying sound he's ever heard was the sound of this gunmen trying to reload. as i mentioned, these first responders on the scene, the first officers on the scene within 60 seconds, they engaged with the gunmen. we don't know if he was injured or not but he's now in police custody. he is being questioned as we speak. there are reports that he is not being very cooperative but fox cannot confirm it.

it's still locked down. it's still an active crime scene but no longer an active shooter scene. as for the victims, we know there are five dead, seven injured. the injured have been rushed to johns hopkins medical center which is a level 1 trauma center. there is another anne arundel county medical center. that's where some of the other injured have been taken. we don't know the severity of injuries or whatnot. so that's what we are expecting to get some information on in about 10 minutes now. it looks like there's a briefing that's about to take place. we were told 5:30. looks like it might be a happy little bit sooner here. i want to talk a little bit about the newspaper that appears to be targeted, it's one of the oldest newspapers in the country, owned by the baltimore sun. it doesn't appear to have any kind of political leaning. it's your standard local newspaper. they cover local elections, the capital, not very far from here, in an annapolis. it could be somebody who didn't

like an article that was written but it's one of the many possible motives that investigators are looking into right now. that's really probably the biggest question people have right now is why did this happe happen. what was the motive? we may find out more about that when the briefing takes place. president trump has been briefed. i believe he was briefed shortly before boarding air force one. he sent out his thoughts and prayers to all the victims, all the victims families, and he of course praised the first responders for their very quick response. hopefully we'll have more once this new briefing takes place. >> kimberly: kristin fisher, we will ask you to stay with us. from there be a press conference. it's expected at 5:30 p.m. eastern time. the president, as kristin said, has been notified. we're going to bring in bill daley, former fbi investigator. bill, you are joining us now. >> good to be here. >> kimberly: we have covered a

lot of cases over the past 12 years together. what strikes you from this particular crime scene and investigation? >> so far, there is very little to go on. this person decided to shoot from the outside, gaining entry or continuing to shoot from the outside. the big question will be whether this was a very personally motivated issue, meaning and one-on-one type of incident where he had an issue with a person inside. or was it the organization as a whole? if we find out he did not go in and look for individuals, than it would it could be something against the organization. we are not too sure what is in this person's mind that at all to even suggest at this point a true motive. some of those things start to ring out to us. i think obviously some of the things, kimberly, you have covered before. investigators are going to start to quickly, i guess the positive news here if they have someone to interview right away, to find

out if there were any other people knowingly involved in this or who would be able to provide more clarity on the motive behind what happens. we want to make sure there's no one out there who is looking to perpetrate some other crime or is semi acting in concert with this individual. and also a bit more around certainly want to know things around acquiring the weapon and also any other information he may have posted on social media. as we all know today, people do. or whether there is a bread crumb trail he may have left commit information suggesting he may have had an issue with a person, with a place, and he was going to commit such a horrible act. >> kimberly: we have a bit of an update attributed to the ap news, now confirming it's a white male shooter in custody and that he is in fact not cooperating with the authorities. that suggests he's not giving

any statements, further stymieing their efforts in terms of the investigative aspect of this to determine his true identity. take us through the steps in terms of identifying someone like this if you don't have a suspect vehicle in custody, if you don't have a positive i.d. on the suspect and they are not cooperating, it makes it a little bit more fraught in terms of obtaining the information. >> initially, and you know from your prosecutor days, it can be a little bit tricky. we want to move quickly through these things and get as much information as we can. they would be taking his fingerprints and they can be looked at through the fbi's automated system. that's just a matter of minutes or within a short period of time. if they have the weapon, tracing the weapon and perhaps of the number was registered to other people. they can determine who they gave that within two or who acquired it. there are a couple things right

away. they are not going to rely just on this person keeping his mouth shut. they're going to be working quickly to find out more about him. i would also say maybe more positive note about this is that the police were able to get to him and they were able to get to him of a report earlier, a statement by authorities saying they just went through an active shooter drill with police and response agencies just a matter of a few days ago. that actually got them on scene within a short amount of time. they are saying between a minute and 90 seconds which is really unprecedented and really goes to show you that by training and awareness, responsiveness, they were probably able to stop more victims from being harmed and were able to get this individual while he was alive even though he's not cooperating now, i believe he will be as we go down the road and find out more about what was motivating him, as strange as these motives might be. >> kimberly: great point. they had the quick response team and swot and tactical units on

scene right away. we have some questions for you. juan. >> juan: , one of the things that stands out on my mind is that this is the capital of maryland so you have lots of police in addition to a normal police for anne arundel county, you have capitol police and others. you also have the naval academy right there. so in that case, you think well, could it be political? could it be that this person was trying to get to that r to dignitaries in annapolis at the naval academy? we are all just trying to figure this out. so far, so little information and nothing that we can kind of get a hold of fear. >> yeah, and i would suggest that where this individual. out this crime certainly negated his opportunity to do anything farther. if there was some kind of additional plan or a target at

the end of his journey, that wasn't going to happen. i would probably suggest more whether it's a personal involvement with someone who worked at this location, whether it was the news organization itself, i think it is something around that. at this point obviously -- we like to politicize a lot of things but in this case i'm not willing to go to that step yet. i think there's something else we need to uncover before we go that far. >> kimberly: will ask you to stand by for a moment. bill daley, former fbi agent. we go back to trace gallagher. >> we just got a comment or a message from the community services editor of the capital gazette. he released this. i'm going to release read it. "devastating, heartbroken, numb." please stop asking for information/interviews. i am in no position to speak. just know that capital news reporters and editors give all they have every day.

there are no 40 hour weeks. no big paydays, just a passion for telling stories from our community. we keep doing more with less may find ways to cover high school sports, breaking news, tax hikes, school budgets and local entertainment. we are there in times of tragedy. we do our best to share their stories of people, those who make our community better. please understand we do all of this to serve our community. he goes on to say we try to expose corruption, we fight to get access to public records and bring to light the inner workings of government despite the hurdles put another way. the reporters and editors put their all into finding the truth. this is our mission. it always will be. clearly the comments from the editor, one of the a few things we have gotten out of the story. we heard from phil davis who was a reporter who was in the room when the shots were fired but beyond that, we've heard almost

nothing. when you go back to school shootings and the other shootings we've covered, almost instantaneously you have new screws on the scenes and you're getting immediate reaction and immediate feedback from the students coming out of the school or in other cases people coming out of the building. in this case, this is the second, we have gotten from somebody who actually worked for the capital gazette which is odd in this day where social media just command so much attention on so far, speaking of social media, we have gotten almost no information. in fact no information that i have seen about the suspect, his social media footprint, his intent, motive and why all this happened today in an annapolis, maryland. >> kimberly: all right. i want to bring in bill daly to continue with some questions. bill, real quick, the atf confirmed they responded to the scene come up bureau of alcohol tobacco firearms and explosives

and they were helping to identify, trace weapons and conduct interviews so that might be a way to identify the suspect rather quickly if they can say where they purchased it, what belongs to, videotape from the gun stores or something to be able to get a positive identification. >> you are right. a good hit would be to run the serial number against database and find out who it belongs to and if it changed recently or if the weapon was not reported stolen and they have a good idea of the person who this individual may be. if not, they will take a lot of steps in order to find out the hole, kind of the birth of the weapon through the handset past and where it is may be today with this individual. as we talk about these incidents, i think over a period of time, so sad is that we've had to keep speaking about these issues is that the issue of

workplace or school place or even open kind of shopping place security has come into the forefront. it really drives home the issue that i'm often asked about which is what can you do. there are some things we can do as individuals to feel as though we are empowered and that is to think about our circumstances, thinking about whether we at work -- we are at work, traveling, our children and where they go to school and where we go shopping, to take the responsibility. there is a lot of good information out there. homeland security, fbi regarding homeland shooter -- active shooter reference material and how you can prepare yourself mentally. often we rely on the government but ultimately many of it comes into a personal decision, what to do when you hear gunshots or see an intruder. those are personal decisions, whether you run, hide, fight.

i would suggest more and more people in this sad day and age, think about it. >> kimberly: i want to say quickly we are anticipating a news conference at about 5:30 shortly. we will take you to that live in is and is it occurs. greg has a question. >> greg: you are in law enforcement, you know a lot about this and you are talking about responsibility. i always think about the responsibility of cable news. often times when these things occur, when we have no information, but we can't move on so we continue with hypotheticals and we exercise our imaginations to know end when you really don't need your imagination. i was wondering your opinion, how do you feel about the blanket media coverage? do you feel it exacerbates copycats? does it make it harder to do the job? >> in some ways, and i think there are some case studies that would point out the fact that people, when they see those

minutes of fame, whether they continue to survive or whether they give themselves up or take their own life, it does play into it. they know there's going to be a lot of attention. i don't get anything we can change. we -- people are going to keep covering these events. but in these early moments, we need to pause and site authorities need to do their jobs. if they come out and tell us one thing and then we find out it's contradicting, we are going to find fault with them. let's give them the space and elbowroom to move and operate. i would like to tell everyone that decides the current investigation going on, in all these major events, there's a secondary investigation. i work with people who used to run the behavioral analysis unit with the fbi. they are heavily involved doing post incident analysis trying to find out what may have happened, as we've mentioned before, where

are these breadcrumbs. where is something we should've find out -- found out. it helps law enforcement and it helps the private community as well to better understand what to look out for, whether it is the way employees behave or whether it's former employees, whether it happens to be customers or other people out there who may harm you. to kind of understand. just to let everyone know, it's not just something in the headlines but there is ongoing analysis done and it's helpful i believe in helping prevent future incidents. >> kimberly: bill, we are going to ask you to standby on the phone if you could. we are awaiting the police news conference at any moment now. we will take it live when we get it. jesse, we have talking about situational awareness. what can you do to help yourself and be aware of your surroundings? >> jesse: 62 mack 90 seconds response time, it seems

record-breaking. they just recently had the active shooter training drill. do they have a panic button you hit that silently rings the alarm to alert authorities? 60 seconds is lightning fast. seeing a couple days over the years that we've covered, to have no idea on you when you carry out a mass shooting and then to not cooperate with the authorities immediately afterwards seems rare and kind of tells me something. i don't know what. it seems bizarre to me. usually these people want attention and this person for some reason doesn't want attention or i don't know what's going on in his mind. it strikes me as odd that there's been no identification and he's gone out of his way to not cooperate. >> kimberly: took in perhaps his identity. it will be interesting to see if they get any serial numbers on the weapon.

a lot of times people trying to do this, concealing their identity, they leave their i.d. at home and make sure there's no registration or suspect vehicle so they can't be traced back and identified. sometimes they take great steps to obliterate this serial number on the weapon to delay authorities. that's why atf is involved in confirming they are on the scene is so important because they are experts at being able to do this and identify markings and ballistics to determine where a weapon might have originated. dana, you have a comment. >> dana: curious about the situation, next up, et cetera federal case now? or is that it state case? it's in the state capital but if you have the fbi and atf there, does it mean it's a federal case or is it worked out later on? >> kimberly: it is the local fbi field office handling it in conjunction with the local police. the mayor, the police department. your cooperation with federal

agencies like the atf to be able to come in in terms of weapons analysis, investigation and they help conduct interviews. you have resources supplementing a scene like this. it's very important. they are good at this. they are good at doing shooting cases, active shooters were identifying suspect, trying to determine who else was involved. there is a healthy interest in trying to get this identified and get some specifics and get some of the investigation details locked down in terms of the forensics and that's why the crime scene is going to be so important to be able to get almost ballistics, get the casings can anything left behind but are telltale signs to kind of recreate the scene and who they are dealing with. >> jesse: to other things strike me as odd. he was unloading the the roundd there was a dramatic pause in these memos stop shooting and everyone was struck by that pause. was he reloading?

was there a psychological moment he had? i don't know what that means. the fact that the people, reporters and editors, have not been on social media, have not been sharing the details. was there some sort of statement put out by the editor to lock it down and don't put out anything right now until we have all the facts because it would seem in a different situation if the newsroom was under assault like this you'd have a massive amount of social media activity and conveying the details of a crime, and that strikes me as something a little different than what i would expect. >> kimberly: they said right away they had come everybody was evacuated and left the premises. that tells me they are with police and with the investigators and they are conducting interviews with each individual, see if there was anything, statements uttered by the suspect during the time. you can imagine trying to piece it together. it's like a gigantic tube jigsw

puzzle. what's the motive? we are going to take you live right now to the police update. >> some of the information we have learned or come to know through investigation, some of the questions you had earlier. will have some answers. unfortunately we saw some we can't answer but we do have an update for you. i will turn it over to stephen shuh. as we reported earlier today, there's been a terrible tragedy here in anne arundel county. there is an active shooter incident. five people are dead, several more are wounded and in the care of anne arundel medical center. the shooter is in custody had being interrogated as we speak. i want to acknowledge the tremendous work of our public safety professionals today. particularly the anne arundel arundel county least berm, and annapolis city police department and the sheriff's office. they were on the scene in about

60 seconds but beyond that, they went immediately into that building without a moment's hesitation and demonstrated incredible courage. we are so deeply appreciative of their great work. it could have been a lot worse. governor hogan. >> i want to thank you all for being here. obviously our hearts go out to the victims and their families and i just want to reiterate county executive schuh. the county agencies, city police, county police, sheriff's department, ten different other agencies backing them up. state police agencies, federal partners. it's a tragic situation but there were some very brave people who came in and kept it from being even worse. the response time was incredible. that's all i have to say. >> good afternoon. i promised you guys an update. deputy chief william krampf from

the anne arundel anne arundel county police department. the building, as we speak, is tactically secure and what that means is our s.w.a.t. team and our quick responders have been through the building. it's secure as far as there are no more persons in the building that are a threat to anyone else. we did recover what we thought they have been an explosive device that has been taken care of. we have members of the bomb squad on scene. we don't anticipate having any more explosive devices. what is happening now that you see behind me is that our criminal investigation division, the actual investigators, are now taking over the scene. we have released it to our members of the criminal investigation division so they can start the process of identifying what occurred and how it occurred and why it occurred. so at this time, we had over 170 individuals in the building that

were escorted out safely. they were taken to a reunification area over at the annapolis mall. we brought jed corbett in from the crisis intervention team who's going to say a few words in a moment to talk with the witnesses, some of the victims, and the police officers who responded. at this time, we are going to continue the investigation and we will have an update for you later on this evening. i believe ryan is going to give you a time for that. >> i am jan corbin with anne arundel county crisis response. we've been on several sites working with witnesses and police officers following the incident. we will be working throughout the night both on a phone line and throughout to assist her where her mental health clinicians that will be working

with witnesses and officers for the next day or so. that's what we will be available for throughout. >> thank you. i have one more item. this area, the area of the mall, it's going to be closed for an indefinite amount of time. i can't tell you when it's going to reopen at this point so if you receive calls, please let them know what occurred and why we haven't shut down. the investigation is going to continue into the evening hours, and at that time when we get more information, will have another update. >> reporter: can you say if the suspect as being cooperative. >> i can confirm we have the suspect in custody. they are interviewing him. the only other information i have is that we don't have an identification yet. we know he's a white adult male and the gun used is described as a long gone. i don't have the specifics on that but we know it was a long

gone and as we continue to get information, we will make sure we continue to put it out. we have no information on motive. we are still doing interviews. he was taken into custody by officers. there was no gunfire exchanged between officers and the suspect. since we were able to get there very quickly. just something for you to know, you know, we haven't unified -- we have a unified training on how to react to shooters. law enforcement agencies train the same way for these active shooters since we've had critical incidents like this. i don't want to say it's very easy but it's easy for officers to get together from other jurisdictions, link up, know the movements and go in and effectively locate a suspect in an active shooter situation and take care of that target.

sorry. say that again. it >> reporter: windows or doors. >> i can't answer that right now. it's going to be determined by the investigators as they go through and process the crime scene. it's going to be a very long night. we anticipate another update at 8:00. any information that's new, i will get out then in any updates. >> reporter: how many victims in hospital? >> we can confirm five are deceased. we are working on injuries to get a good number. estimated around three. i don't know how many were in the newsroom but we have 170 we were able to safely evacuate out of the building and transport safely to family and friends. 8:00 will be our next update. i don't have any other answers for you. any other updates we will get out at 8:00. >> kimberly: police update, hearing from various individuals

involved. they say one of the reasons they were able to get those so quickly and save lives is because there is unified training protocol and limited throughout the state and country so they can quickly communicate even if they are from multiple different agencies. understanding the terminology and what needs to be done very quickly which is crucial in a situation like this where they had an active shooter on site. reiterating that the error are five people deceased and there are other injuries but they're working to get an accurate number of those that have been injured taken other medical facilities in the area. they confirmed us of the weapon that it's a long gone but did not specify as to make or model. then also they said there was what they believed to be an explosive device that is no longer a threat which is very important in terms of they secure the building tactically and they were able to locate, identify, and i guess disable that item which is really

crucial in terms of preventing additional casualties. could have been catastrophic. really stressing the importance of identifying the individual and whether or not there are any other weapons or explosive devices within a vehicle, within a suspect's home or place of work perhaps where that individual might've worked or other family members et cetera. let's bring back in former fbi investigator bill daly to get your thoughts on some of the items they went through their. for the viewers, there will be an update at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >> a couple things come to mind. first of all, they say the individual had no identification. certainly it suggests there was preplanning and that he was aware he may be taken into custody. the other thing i would like to mention is that they talk about the explosive device. i wasn't too sure from their

description whether or not it was actually a device or it was suspect and they diffused it. another point for the viewers and other folks to understand is that when police go into these locations and they talk about a tactical team and then they talk about handing it over to the crime scene investigators, when the police go in, they need to make sure the whole building is clear, certainly the site where the incident took place is clear. it's very sad, having to step over a nearby people who either have been deceased or need aid, they need to be sure that the first thing is to make sure they neutralize any potential threat to other individuals in themselves as they go through these locations. having done some training with the nypd, that's one of the things they tell people. if they need to come in, they are not going to be stopping every step along the way to aid people even though they would

most likely like to do that. it's really declare location. that's what they said. they cleared the location. turn it over to investigators going bit by bit, shall by shell, shot by shocked to find out what was happening and what was the timeline. >> kimberly: 170 people were escorted to safety for family reunification. there are grief counselors, people working there in conjunction with the police obtaining statements about what transpired. bill, we are going to ask you to stand by. we'll bring in kristin fisher with the latest. >> we gone a little bit of new information from this press conference. we learned more about the shooter. he's a white man in custody. they would not confirm that it was a shotgun but they said it was some kind of long month. he's being questioned as we speak. sounds like he's not being all that cooperative. the other bit of new information that we got for the press

conference is that they did find what they thought was some kind of explosive device. they brought in the bomb squad and checked it out. unclear if they did to minted something or if it turned out to be absolutely nothing at all. they checked it out. no problem there, according to what police just told us. the other thing i just want to highlight, kimberly, is how huge the police presence is here from the air to the patrol cars, the bomb squad. it's a massive, massive police presence. just one week ago we were told everybody in anne arundel county had an active shooter drill. they practice for a scenario just like this. of course we know they are being praised for their quick response. 60-second response. i don't know how that's possible but it's clear that they -- if they had not arrived as quickly as i did, it would've been so much worse. five dead. we believe seven wounded though

the lieutenant that just spoke to us said that numbers a little fuzzy that it might go up or down. >> kimberly: you bring up a great point. the sheer volume of law enforcement on the scene and the officers there said that they had city, county, and the sheriff's department working in concert with ten additional agencies to back them up, to try to process this in addition to the bomb squad, atf and local fbi all working in concert. let's bring in trace gallagher. he has new information as well. >> kimberly, i want to piggyback on what kristin was talking about because they talked about this explosive device in earlier cbs and reported that the suspect was wearing what they termed as fake grenades. we don't know if we are conflating the two but all the tech to -- detective would say was that the device was taken care of. we don't know if it's next acte explosive device.

earlier they were talking about looking for explosive devices, going through the building and scanning for these things. so right now it's unclear if this person walked in with these phony grenades and thought they would make him look more nefarious than he did. we don't know if that's the same device police were talking about when they say there was an explosive device that was taken care of. we don't know if it was exploded. the context of that remains a bit unclear, and it still is very unclear whether or not the suspect actually went in the front door, opening fire, or walked in the front door and then begin to open fire. the level of where he started shooting remains unclear and exactly when he stopped shooting. was it when police surrounded him or was it when, as the reporter said, he suddenly stopped and police surrounded him. still some details to be worked

out that a very important as the investigation was forward. >> kimberly: i'm going to bring back and bill daly. will pick it up where trace left it. witness statements saying that he stopped shooting and there was no gunfire exchanged between the suspect that is now in custody and police that arrived on scene. what do you make of it? >> doing a little clairvoyance here. it could be something as much as he was looking to reload and we've seen other incidents where during the period of time when the shooters reloading it if that they are intercepted by people or police authorities. and he gives himself up. i would probably go to what i said before which it does sound like this point there was some preplanning. doesn't appear that he just woke up this afternoon i decided to

do this. there was some preplanning involved, and that certainly leads to other people who may have been either knowledgeable or in any way participated in this event or perhaps turned a blind eye in behavior they saw. at this point, i am kind of leaning to the fact that we are not seeing any other people in and around the area, that perhaps it was just a single shooter. we don't know that yet. >> kimberly: again, the one weapon so far identified, that it didn't appear that he had any additional weapons on him. so far, one long gun. five dead and at least three injured. they should probably have a firm number by 8:00 p.m. eastern. jesse, did you have a question? >> jesse: one thing i've noticed that this is the exact opposite of what happened in parkland. you think about the response time in parkland where they formed a perimeter and there was a lot of chaos and confusion.

contrast that with the lightning quick speed with the atf when they were able to come in and apprehend the sky. it's startling. do you think the fact that he had fake grenades we believe and then didn't kind of go out in a blaze of glory, did not exchange fire with law enforcement officials, does that tell you maybe he wanted to live? what does that tell you, if anything? >> trying to kind of read into that but i would suggest it could be, and we've seen this in other cases where the intent by the individual's suicide by police or they are going to take their own life and then at the last minute, we've seen this with criminals as well as in some terrorist situations. in no way am i suggesting it's a terrorist situation but we see where they save i really don't

want to die this way. as much as they killed other people, they put their hands up and they surrender. so i think it could be something along those lines were maybe the first intention because he was hiding his identity, because he was maybe there was some preplanning involved, he thought it would be his last stand but then at the last minute whether he was changing or reloading his weapon or he paused on the police were there, he decided he would rather give up. which is a benefit for police and authorities. sort through those breadcrumbs and will help us better know not only from this incident but perhaps lead into some perspective on how we can prevent and respond to other incidents. >> kimberly: we have a couple more questions. their densification is key. a fingerprinting, facial recognition, photographing and taking the vehicles in the area to get license plates and determine any cars left unattended.

juan has a question and then dana. >> juan: obviously you're right there on the chesapeake bay. you are talking at there are lots of people who are hunters. ducks, dear. we know this young man was using a long gun. so the question comes to my min mind, is this a case where gun control would not have made a difference in a community where lots of people have long guns in their home. >> well, you know. not to get too speculative about it, juan, there are many people of weapons and many, many people across the country of weapons that use them responsibly, go through training and use them for sport. to draw the connection right now i think would be to me a little mischaracterization of what's happened here at or wouldn't be proper. i think the fact that people may have weapons or could get one from someone because they are in

an area where people use them for supporting, access to it may lead to how we as his weapon, whether he purchased it, still wet or >> one inning that strikes me. it's like the dog that didn't bark. we are not on the scene of his home or a relative or friend or employer to figure on the any connections or somebody who may have , in fact. >> i think all of that will come out. the federal level from the fbi it's key. those things that are missed and those things where people are picking up small amounts of behavior. a pattern.

a word. a movement. somebody shows up with a weapon at an odd time of the day and they never saw them there before. it's all of our business when you come down to it. wanting that, you are putting that person in harm's way. it means you are alerting authorities that something could be wrong. >> they are probably fielding tips right now. this is breaking comes across the wires from cbs news. cbs news reporting suspect in the "capital gazette" shooting damaged his fingerprints so law enforcement can't identify him. suspect has no i.d. smoke bombs found had his back. that's from cbs news. whoa are working to confirm. they are reporting that. there still might be a lull in

terms of making a positive i.d. normally you print the suspect right away. the fbi database could get a positive hit. maybe they have to rely on facial recognition and other things. this shows some level of pre-meditation and planning if these reports are accurate. >> you're absolutley right. if they found some other things on his person or in a backpack or where he had these other devices, that may take longer, back stepping where this may have come from. where somebody could have purchased them. we will help authorities identify them. it's interesting if this cbs report is true that his fingerprints were in some way manipulated to not take his

fingerprints. that's something you don't hear about. i may have heard about it in the roaring '20s with criminals but not today. >> the county executive is reporting they have a name. they are working to confirm of it the suspect that is in custody. bill, thank you. former fbi agent joining us with trace gallagher. 5 deceased in this shooting today. there are multiple injuries. looking to firm up a number. more coverage at 8 p.m. eastern. the cbs news report said the suspect damaged his finger tips so law enforcement could not identify him. but they have a name and will identify him shortly.

a suspect is in custdoe. -- custody. they might have made an identification and are working to confirm. it's important to get that information accurate and get it correct. bret baier will continue. >> ♪ >> bret: this is a fox news alert. i am bret baier. live tonight from orlando, florida. 30 minutes from now a debate between the top 2 candidates for the gubernatorial election. but first a deadly shooting in annapolis, maryland. 5 people have been killed. many more injured. a suspect is in custody. christian fisher is on the scene now with what is being called one of the deadliest attacks on journalists in u.s. history. good evening, chris. >> good evening. a horrible day. 5 dead. at least 7 injured. possibly more