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you tomorrow night at seven. but stay tuned, there's a news conference coming up in an annapolis, maryland, of this evening. we expect an update on the deadly shooting at the newspaper. at least five dead and several injured. tucker joins us live in washington. ♪ >> tucker: of five people were shot and killed and several more injured at an newspaper in an annapolis, maryland. more news is coming into fox, some of it confusing. we also expect an update from police and the next few minutes and we will take you there live when that happens. good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. there was an ideological revolution on the left of this week and nobody noticed it. for months you may have noticed that members of the progressive fringe have called for the abolishment of i.c.e., the agency responsible for enforcing immigration laws. democratic leaders seem
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embarrassed by it. nancy pelosi and chuck schumer oppose the idea as did many others. then everything changed. two days ago a self-described socialist called alexandria ocasio-cortez unexpectedly won a democratic primary in new york. she ran on abolishing i.c.e. suddenly in days, abolishing i.c.e. is something many democrats say they are four. midterm elections are approaching so it's time for the rest of us to take this idea seriously. what exactly would happen if the left killed i.c.e.? here are some of the facts about i.c.e. i.c.e. is responsible for all immigration enforcement in the united states. last year they arrested 32,958 immigrants with criminal records. almost 5,000 of those were members of violent gangs. without i.c.e., all those criminals would still be at large within our borders. last year i.c.e. also seized 2,370 pounds of fat known, the narcotic that is driving the
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single deadliest drug crisis in the history of this country. that's enough fentanyl to kill every single american citizen by overnight comic overdose. without i.c.e. that would still be in circulation. they are also the body responsible for deporting anyone illegally inside the united states. last year they removed 2,026,000 people who broke american law. i.c.e. did that because i.c.e. is the only agency we have to do with it. without i.c.e., criminal aliens could see in this country with impunity including gang members, child molesters, drug smugglers and convicted murderers. they could not be deported. companies could bring in an unlimited number of illegal workers which could crash wages for american workers even more than it already has. that would be a disaster, but that's the point. the campaign against i.c.e. is a campaign for honest comic open borders and some are honest enough to admit that. activists have chanted this, no
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borders, donations, stop the deportations. no borders, no nations. one leads to the others, always. without borders, nations are in trouble. if they passed the law tomorrow, would your house still be your house? no, it would be everybody's house and soon, nobody's house. that is the left's plan for america and finally they are saying it out loud. we are going to pause and bring you to a news conference underway. officials in maryland briefing us on on the shooting. >> we are in the process of notifying the next of kin. we have five confirmed fatal's and two injuries. the injuries to my understanding are superficial, possibly from glass from the shotgun blast. we are working on now securing
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his residence. he does live in the state of maryland. we are in the process of securing that residence and preparing for search warrants. so this is the next phase of this scene, and that is the investigative phase. this is the part that takes the most time, as i would assume many of you have already heard from many other police agencies in the state of maryland and across the country, the investigative process is very difficult. we must be thorough and that is why you will not get the information from social media or from us unless it has been confirmed. we have allowed our investigators to do their job and they are there now, and we are going to continue to provide you with information. i want to share something with you that i think is important. we mentioned before about the improvised explosive device.
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that is not an ied, it was actually canisters of smoke grenades that he used inside of the building when he entered the establishment. so this person was prepared today to come in. this person was prepared to shoot people. his intent was to cause harm and, as i stated before the investigative part of this is going to be thorough and it's going to take some time. as you can see behind us, we opened up that road. we thought that we may need to secure that roadway for a long period of time, and as we get further into the investigation, we realize that we don't need that roadway. the building, 888 that skate will be secured for some time. i do not have a time frame on that yet.
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we will be inside of there for quite a bit, until this investigation is complete. when i have more confirmed information, i will share that confirmed information with you. >> exactly what was his beef with this newspaper? >> that's what we are investigating now. >> it's already been reported he has a history with the newspaper years ago. >> that's what we are hearing but we need the investigators to confirm that. >> is he living in an annapolis >> no, i can't share that with you. that's the first time i've heard facial recognition. >> i can't answer that. he is at our criminal investigation division. our detectives are down there with him and i have not
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interrupted him to ask if he's being cooperative. >> [indistinct question] >> you will have the information as soon as we confirm it. >> can you confirm that -- [indistinct question] >> the only connection that i can tell you about right now is possibly through social media. i have no other confirmation. >> [indistinct question] >> we are still looking into that. i cannot confirm whether or not our department has come into contact with him and we will have that at a later time as well. >> have you had any comments from any family members? >> can you tell us if he is a resident of maryland or if he came from outside? >> he's a resident of maryland. >> [indistinct question] >> that will be part of the investigation. i can't confirm whether or not he knew employees they are or if you just targeted the business in general. >> can you tell us where in
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maryland? >> no. >> when will you confirm his identity? >> very soon. >> can you confirm what type of shotgun? was it a sporting shotgun or where the smoke grenades commercially available or military? >> i don't have that information. >> were all the people shot in the newspaper office? >> i can't confirm that, they were shot on the first floor. >> deputy chief, there's talk about the government trying to hide his identity in certain ways, maybe with his fingerprints burned off and things. can you confirm that? >> that's a first time i've heard facial recognition and the first time i've heard fingerprints, no verification of either. >> did he have a criminal record? >> i can't confirm that. >> [indistinct question] >> we know there were threats sent to the gazette through social media. he's in his late 30s.
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the threats were sent over social media and we are trying to confirm what account that was and trying to confirm who actually sent them. >> >> we will continue to monitr that press conference, at the annapolis newspaper, five dead and a similar number injured. let's go now to our own kristin fisher who has some more details on the story. are you there? >> we are there. we got more information from law enforcement in that press conference and i just want to run through some of the highlights. i think the biggest was that they are now calling is this a targeted attack on the capital gazette newspaper. it's unclear whether this gunman knew specific employees or if you just had a gripe with the newspaper itself but we can now confirm that the attack was intended to be on the capital gazette newspaper which is a local community newspaper, one
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of the oldest newspapers in the country owned by the baltimore sun. more information about the suspect, he's a white male believed to be in his 30s. law enforcement said he sent threats to the gazette through social media. this was a planned and well prepared attack. he came in through the building, this building just behind me, the brown brick building just behind me. he came in with smoke grenades and a shotgun, and he just went through the first floor newsroom of the capital gazette and picked off his victims one by one. we know they are now confirming five dead and too injured. the two injured are essentially superficial injuries. we believe they were injured from glass, which was blasted out from the shotgun. now they are going through the process, a very lengthy process of interviewing the shooter.
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he is in custody and we are told he's not being cooperative and they are trying to get a search warrant on his home to go through his home and find some clues there. tucker, the other really bizarre twist in this story is, about the shooter himself, we are hearing that he mutilated his own fingertips, perhaps in an attempt to evade or at least prolong identification. we don't know exactly what that means or how he did it. was it a long time ago or recently, but that's part of the reason why it has been so difficult to identify him. they have had to identify him using facial recognition software. so he did not engage with police in the shoot-out. he did not shoot at them. we don't know if he surrendered or what the exact circumstances where they are but it's very clear that he wanted to go through some great effort to make sure it would be at least a little bit more difficult for him to be identified.
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and the big thing that everyone is talking about here is the police response. it has just been incredible. the police have been training for an active shooter situation just one week ago. they had a drill to prepare for a situation just like this and they were on the scene within 60 seconds. the governor and the mirrors that they went in without hesitating. they exhibited tremendous courage, and without them it's almost certain that there would have been several more lives lost, several more people injured. but just a very sad to scene out here and some of the developments that we are hearing really are quite bizarre. a final word of caution, we should be getting another update later tonight but law enforcement is now telling us that we are now moving from the active shooter and recovery phase to the investigative phase. this is the phase that obviously takes the longest period of time and they urge the public and urge the press frankly to be patient with them to make sure they get the facts straight.
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without a doubt, the biggest question tonight is motive. why did he do this, why did he hold a grudge against the newspaper, was it something that was said in the paper that he didn't like? did he have a gripe with one of the employees? >> tucker: let me stop you and say, there are reports that there is a history of animus or even legal action between this man and the newspaper, we can't confirm that, but it sounds like it is a threat that we will continue to poll. kristin fisher, thank you for that report from annapolis. >> kristin: absolutely. >> tucker: so before we went to the press conference we told you about a political development that is reshaping the ideological landscape on the left. parts of the progressive branch have been arguing for months now that we abolish i.c.e., although it has not been in mainstream and monk's democrats but it is. abolish i.c.e. democrats are now saying that in growing numbers.
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this is the codirector of the immigrant justice clinic at northeastern university and i think he agrees to that sentiment, so we wanted to talk to him about that. thanks so much for coming on. as i said in the script at the beginning of the show, this is not something that i have taken seriously or people watching and taken seriously but now i think we have an obligation to take it seriously. so i'd like to ask you what it would mean. i.c.e. arrests many thousands of illegal aliens in our country who have committed felonies and been convicted of them every year. if there was no i.c.e., they would be arrested. and that would be bad, wouldn't it? >> we had existed for hundreds of years before i.c.e. came along several years ago. i think the biggest issue is that i.c.e. has gotten too big. i.c.e. has a yearly budget of $6 billion.
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the family separation policy from president trump is expected to cost an extra $2 billion. so i.c.e. was not created to be this big. i.c.e. was created to focus on national security and terrorism and now, people are being arrested who have not committed crimes and people are being arrested who have committed nonviolent crimes. i.c.e. is straying from its original purpose, from the idea of -- >> tucker: let me say,
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everything is bigger -- that's the hope that something else will come along. but in the meantime you have thousands and thousands and thousands of actual criminals who are here illegally, not people whose only crime is being here but people who have committed felonies. child molestation, murder and lots of drunk drivers. without i.c.e. they don't get arrested. does that bother you? >> of the aclu says 90% of arrests by i.c.e. are for nonviolent crimes. so when president trump ran for office, he said he was going to ball after the bad criminals. >> tucker: without i.c.e., we don't arrest anybody. i understand that you think i.c.e. does more than it should, and i get that. >> you are for small government, right? >> tucker: i don't know, i guess in some cases fine for protecting the country of his board in board in, and without i.c.e. we have criminals going free and thousands of pounds of fentanyl on the streets. you can't deny those are real concerns. >> those are concerns but again, there are 20 agencies that handle different things that i.c.e. handles. now, i.c.e. is so vague that the president has power with $6 billion and asking for two more billion dollars using and i.c.e. up for his own police force. >> tucker: i understand and i
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think we disagree on everything that i do agree with you that federal agencies do things they weren't created to do and i'm against that. but getting rid of the agency leaves you in the position of having to explain specifically who will arrest the illegal aliens who are also illegal aliens and murderers. >> a very small percentage. >> but the numbers are high. the percentage is small but the aggregate number is big. thousands and thousands of people. so who supports them? >> but there were smaller agencies -- i think first we just have to -- if you are sort of asking for a solution but first we need to agree that i.c.e. is the problem and the fact that it's $6 million and going after people it shouldn't be going after. >> i'm sorry, i don't want to interrupt you but you are missing the point.
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people are calling for eliminating the agency. so let's say that happens tomorrow. if you get your wish and i.c.e. is gone and an illegal alien has been busted for drunk driving. should he be deported? people who are here illegally, should they be deported? >> i think we have to -- i think what we have to do is think about abolishing the i.c.e. >> tucker: answer the question. should an illegal alien busted for drunk driving be deported? >> that's too big of a question. >> tucker: it's a very specific question. hold on, you deal with immigration for a living. i'm asking what you think you a should do because we are remaking everything anew. so let's get rid of i.c.e. what are the new rules? i'm here illegally and i get busted for dui. should i be deported? it's a very simple question.
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>> immigration law is very complicated. that person could have an asylum claim or many types of reasons why they might be able to stay in the united states, beyond the dui. the criminal justice system can handle crimes. i mean american citizens commit crimes when they go to jail. >> tucker: but you are saying they should all be allowed to stay here with their asylum claims. >> are you saying before -- >> tucker: if you get caught with a crime, you should leave. i'm sorry, they are barking at me, i've got to go. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: i hope you can come back because i want to know what this means. increasingly, radical beliefs are finding a mainstream home in the democratic party. it's all happening very fast but it is happening. yesterday on cnn future congresswoman ocasio-cortez accused i.c.e. of operating secret black sites on the border. for real, watch this. >> it's extrajudicial in nature
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and its base into the structure of the agency and that's why they are able to get away with black sites on our border with separation of children. even our own members of congress are not able to access what's happening in the sights and that in itself is secretive in nature. when we know that children are being capped and human rights abuses are happening. >> tucker: david eisen bock is a candidate for the new york city public advocate job. and he joins us. thank you for coming on. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: do you believe that i.c.e. is running secret black sites and abducting children and if so, are they doing it in conjunction with aliens? >> i don't know anything about that but i do know if we got rid of i.c.e., we would have a replacement that would be on the ground and stop the things that you are freaked out about like importation of drugs and criminals on the streets. >> tucker: here's what bothers me. it's not that any government agency is irreplaceable or that
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we should reform government, i think we should actually. i'm advocating for it night after night. but what scares me is the recklessness behind this. people are saying, just get rid of it and someone will pick up the slack. in the real world, that's not how things work. if you're the one calling for the elimination of an agency, how tell me how you are keeping my kids from getting hurt. >> you are that language and assuming that's the plan when you actually go to the policy room and you know that's not how it works. >> tucker: you are right, i'm not saying i.c.e. would be eliminated tomorrow. but democrats in the mainstream, this woman is going to be a congressman from new york, are getting elected and on the promise of doing it. so i have the responsibility to take this seriously. like what are they calling for? tell me. and then it's like, shut up, no details. >> they are giving details. i.c.e. was created in the wake
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of 9/11, when we were anxious about a lot of things. it may have grown out of control a little bit over the course of the years as federal agencies do come as you know. now it's time to reassess that. we were able to do the things you said before i.c.e. was created. >> tucker: i'd like to know who is going to do them now. the guy i just spoke to said it, if you are here illegally, you should be deported. i mean if we don't agree on that -- if i get busted with dui i can't have a job. maybe they are getting better treatment than i am and i'm a citizen and a taxpayer. i'm not okay with that. >> get away from that rhetoric and general assumptions and have an adult conversation about how we can replace one organization with another. >> tucker: i'm one guy that's asking what the details are. i'm not having a rhetorical conversation, give me the
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details. thank you, appreciate it. >> i want to say that her victory was a victory against the democratic establishment, which was ignoring the fact that new york city is becoming less and less affordable. corporate democrats, their days are numbered. nancy pelosi -- >> tucker: i'm with her on that. we are art of time. thank you. figures like congresswoman maxine waters have recently read indoors harassment of trump administration officials. many of the left are refusing to condemn her and quentin james is a founder of the collective, its pack, and the critics of that behavior are "encompasses to the trump administration." we wanted to ask him what he meant and he generously agreed to tell us alive tonight. quentin, if you think it's okay to yell at someone in a restaurant because you don't agree with their politics, why not yell at him at a soccer game with his kids or at a funeral
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for church? what are the boundaries here? i've not been able to get a straight answer. >> thanks for having me, i think this is a conversation of freedom of speech. i think you raise a good point, where are the limits? but we need to start this conversation with a piece of truth. maxine waters did not call for violence. she did not call for people to continue to ramp up kind of what we have been seeing from the right, actually, in terms of escalating. >> tucker: let me get factual on you here. maxine waters a couple days ago said, if you see a trump cabinet member, assemble a group and confront them. if i sat on my show, if you seen quentin james out at the mall with his kids, you "assemble a group and go confront him." how would you feel about that? >> i'm not a public official.
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>> tucker: while you're here talking to me. you are influencing policy, you got a political action committee. are you kidding? so if i said that about you will come assemble a group and go confront quentin, wouldn't you feel threatened? i would. >> we are talking about people -- >> tucker: please answer my question, quentin. >> i'm trying to answer and you keep interrupting me. >> tucker: how would you feel if i said that about you? >> we are talking about ripping children away from their parents. we are talking about banning muslims. people have a right to speak out against that. >> tucker: i'm not contesting anyone's right to speak ever come i defended against the left, every night. but i'm asking you, is there a difference between disagreeing with someone and assembling a group, as maxine waters said to come up to confront them in public? please answer my question. how would you feel if i did that right now to you on the show,
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which i would never do? is that threatening or not? >> i don't think protest is in any way against our democratic values. people have every right to raise and voice their concerns about these really important issues. >> tucker: no one is contesting that, i defend it. but yelling at people and making them leave a restaurant is not -- well we have a fox news alert. i'm sorry. quentin, thank you for joining us. i'm sorry to cut you short. we want to tell you this. this show isn't learning tonight, this is a fox news alert, that white house chief of staff chief of staff general john kelly may be preparing to leave his job, likely very soon. kelly is an honorable and capable man, one of the most impressive ever to all that post. many will be sad to see them go, me included. the question is, who replaces him? apparently there are several candidates. mick mulvaney is always on
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budget matters but does he agree with the president on immigration issues, that's not a small thing. that ought to be an absolute requirement for that job. white house chief of staff. also on the list, we are hearing, his former aide, hope hicks. hope hicks is young and relatively press shy. but in a white house written by factionalism and leaking, hicks is maybe one of the few people in washington or on the planet that has the reflexive trust of the president. he could use more people like that for sure at a time like this. we will keep you posted on that. up next, we will look at the highlights and the low lights of the reaction to kennedy's retirement. also, continue to follow the breaking news out of annapolis, maryland, where a gunman took five lives and injured at least five more. we will be right back. ♪
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everything to do with women's rights, gay rights and solidifying the pro-corporate antiworker wing wing of the supreme court. i think what we are looking for is the nomination of a right wing extremist. >> tucker: mollie hemingway is a senior editor at the federalist and she joins us now. burning is telling us this is the nomination of a right wing extremist. does he know who is getting the nomination? i hadn't heard of. >> we do not know who is getting the nomination although we do have a list of potential nominees from president trump. what that speaks to his people have a life interest in the supreme court because the supreme court itself has so much power and has done so much in recent decades to really push issues even over and against the way that the people have voted. and particularly when it comes to liberal social activism. we seen a tremendous push by the court to overturn what people have voted on, and the
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supreme court has in many ways too much power when the resignation of one person can cause so much anxiety by people on both left and right. >> tucker: that's exactly right. it is not a healthy democracy when the democratic institution has the most power. but how can you denounce someone as a right wing extremist when you know who that person is? is that a little weird? was it always that way? the rhetoric seems to be getting more intense. >> think about kennedy in the 1980s which happened itself. that vote was declined by a democratic senate, and his replacement, ginsburg, ended up withdrawing. kennedy was brought by ragan and ended up with quite a bit of social activism whether that was redefining merits to -- marriage to include same-sex couples or, roe v. wade was a very written decision. you don't even know what you are
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getting one a republican, even someone like ronald reagan nominate. so people suggest, wait until they find out who was nominated and evaluate the person and through judicial philosophy at that time. >> tucker: democratic nominees never get more conservative ever. molly, thank you. reactions to kennedy's retirement on twitter of course were even stronger than those on television because everybody brings out his worst self on twitter. progress editor and mill heiser tweeted this, among other things, "f you. " " and another wrote, i wish this kennedy had been shot and stood at the other one. richard paynter who is running for senate wrote this "no new supreme court nominations to replace justice kennedy. none. he's in blatant violation of the constitution and must be impeached. senate and judiciary committee
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hearings are way past due. i've had it with appeasement of aspiring dictators." he was clearly sweating and shouting when he wrote that. and richard goodstein joins us tonight. i thought the critique of trump from the left was that he was violating democratic norms. but the democratic norm is the elected president gets to nominate to fill vacancies on the supreme court which trump is doing, because again he's president. but now we are hearing that he shouldn't be allowed to do that. so how can you be for democrati democratic, but oppose that? >> that wasn't followed by merit. so i'm not saying whether it's the biden rule or mcconnell rule, i think that's frankly silly talk. what alarms people, donald trump said that women should be punished for having abortions and their doctors should be
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treated criminally. you had legislators in ohio today advance the position that women should get the death penalty who have abortions. so if any of your viewers have someone in their family or a friend that they know of who has had an abortion, that person should be scared of that. or if they had a friend who was, that behavior was criminalized. >> tucker: that's just silly. it's always about abortion. how many -- hold on. it's a sincere question. how many abortions, more abortions do we need until we get really happy? like what's the ideal number of abortions would you say in america? how many should we have? because the idea is that whenever you restrict abortion, it's bad, how many would make this country like a great country again, would you say? >> that's a very dismissive view of the views of women who should have control over their bodies.
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of course we should have as few abortions as possible but the women who choose to go that route should not be put in jail. and if donald trump have their way this is what will happen. >> tucker: you don't believe that, it's too dumb. you don't even -- hold on. so donald trump is a big pro-life activist now, okay. let's stop the s-inning the audience now. isn't it kind of been insult to democrats who are attacking the nominee when there isn't a nominee? shouldn't you hear the person's positions before you dismiss him or is it just, everybody that is nominated is bad? >> donald trump did something running for president that others didn't. he said i want to have a litmus test. he also said these women should be treated criminally. we are just taking him at his word and looking at this list of
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people. >> it's always about abortion. again, that happiness or something. >> there are a lot of issues -- >> tucker: thank you. good to see you. new footage of the las vegas shooting show police waiting in the hallway as the killing continues for minutes. maybe that's why they were hiding this from us for months and months. we have details on that, next. i tend to play the tough guy. but i wasn't tough enough to quit on my own. not until i tried chantix. chantix, along with support, helps you quit smoking. it reduced my urge to smoke to the point that i could stop. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. some people had changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, or suicidal thoughts or actions with chantix.
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>> tucker: it has been many months since the mass shooting in las vegas, the largest in modern american history. even now key information continues to trickle out. even as stephen paddock continues to murder people below. the obvious question is, why is this footage coming out now and why did the police not act for
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several minutes? catherine bardo is an attorney representing some of the victims of those shootings and she joins us. thank you for coming on. the first question is, why are we finding this out now? it seems like a central piece of information in the story. >> because the courts ordered the las vegas metro police department to release all of this video footage and pursuant to court order, they are releasing it piece by piece over the last couple months. as you know, yesterday we received about a dozen videos and many more audio videos showing mostly police officer body worn camera footage. it's fascinating and it is also very, very upsetting. it shows the extremis of the event and of the trauma that everyone there, the 22,000
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people who are there have suffered. i have been in that very hallway and that stairwell, at the door there on the 31st floor and the 32nd floor. i was there just some months ago. and what the video clearly shows is one particular police officer was on the 31st floor. not the 32nd floor, and he was there for many moments. what we find interesting is that the mandalay bay security officer who was with that particular police officer before the shooting started and raced through the casino floor and raced up the elevators with him, this particular mandalay bay security guard said that he was on the 30 second-floor with that particular officer in the video on the 31st floor. this mandalay bay security manager told the fbi on nine
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separate occasions in his interviews that he was certain he was with this officer hendrix on the 30 second-floor. they already knew officer hendrix was on the 31st floor but, it wasn't until yesterday when all of that video was released that we finally got confirmation that something is wrong, something is amiss. this whole thing is just the tip of the iceberg and we've only scratched the surface. >> tucker: it's unbelievable. this is the second time in several months we've seen armed police officers stand there while a mass murder takes place. i'm sympathetic to cops because they take a lot of but i think we deserve an explanation for why this keeps happening. >> as on my. one last thought on that, i have a client whose spouse was shot and killed inside the venue during the 12th and final burst of gunfire. and i just want to put that out there because had they been able to -- >> tucker: right, can you
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>> tucker: the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein and fbi director christopher wray upheld appeared on capitol today where they clashed with some republicans who accuse the department of justice of hiding information from congress. here's part of the exchange. >> if you have evidence that this president acted inappropriately, presented to the american people. there's an old saying that justice delayed is justice denied.
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i think right now all of us are being denied. whatever you've got, finish it up. because this country is being torn apart. >> with regard to the investigation, i have heard suggestions that we should just close the investigation. i think the best thing we can do is finish it appropriately and reach a conclusion. >> tucker: tom fitton is the president of judicial watch and he joins us tonight. tom, when is this going to wrap up, do we have any sense of an end date for the russian investigation? >> there is no imminent end date. this obstruction investigation into trump's firing of comey, who knows when that will end. and then you have the russian collision investigation. we know there has been no rush in collusion with president trump, so i don't know what mueller is doing. he hasn't presented any information about where he is in his investigation. rankly, he should be on the hill
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testifying since he seems to be the one running the justice department and the fbi on this important matter. >> tucker: so how did they respond, under these questions? >> they seem, i think, oblivious to the concerns americans have about the credibility and leadership of the justice department and the fbi. obviously under the obama administration it was an absolute disaster. but they don't want to grapple with the fact that congress doesn't trust them to turn over the documents i have and it certainly, the director doesn't seem to think the ig report was about the fbi. he keeps thinking that it wasn't about the institution of the fbi but some people that have been to work there, when in fact it was a leadership of the fbi that was severely ethically
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compromised. mr. rosenstein has produced by congress. and those are decisions by the justice department not to comply with subpoenas in a timely way and he doesn't have any excuses as to why it takes years and months to turn over a basic text information, why certain texts were turned over, and when it pressed on, he said i have a lot of people working on it very hard and if they miss it or there are mistakes that are made i would go back and share their concerns with them. it doesn't sound very satisfying to anyone who is trying to get answers about the most in significant corruption issue in a generation. >> tucker: it so evasive. i don't know about you, he was to be impressed by the doj and fbi, this is sad to see. tom, thank you. we will have an update for you on the shooting in annapolis-
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>> tucker: this is a fox news alert. 5 dead and more injured in annapolis, maryland. the gunman attacked the capitals gazette newspaper. the suspect's twitter bio page read this is way. i created this page to defend myself. i am suing the county and: >> he also last tweeted early this afternoon. spooky. jay is a former assistant director of the fib. -- fbi. it sounds like there was some long-standing feud in his mind between himself and this
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newspaper? >> yes. i don't think he came there to die. he tried to modify his finger tips. i don't think there was a suicide thing. the cops got there so quick, he got trapped there. good for everybody. good for the victims and good for society too. >> tucker: you see people on television drawing snap conclusions without any facts at all. what do you think? >> they should not do that. the officer that gave the press conference was really good. he told us what he knew does he would not guess. that's perfect. he should be commended for that press conference. >> tucker: yes. thank you very much. for capping it up for us tonight. >> you got it. thanks. >> tucker: it's a been a huge news day.
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join us tomorrow night on the show that the sworn enemy of lisa page. -- of group think. sean hannity is next. >> sean: a great show. >> tucker: [laughing]. thank you very much. >> sean: we are trying our best. welcome to "hannity." my opening monologue in a few minutes. as you know from all of the reporting today strategy strikes maryland. earlier today an armed gunman killed and seriously injured individuals at a newspaper office in annapolis, maryland. kirsten, a tough day. what is going on? >> police confirmed this was a targeted attack on the "capital gazette" newspaper. we still don't know if this shooter had a problem with the
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