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nancy pelosi and chuck schumer oppose the idea, so did many others. then everything changed. two days ago a self-described socialist called alexandria ocasio-cortez unexpectedly won a democratic primary in new york. she ran on abolishing i.c.e. suddenly, in days, getting ridsh of i.c.e. is something many democrats say they are for. midterm elections are approaching so it's time for the rest of us to take this idea seriously. what exactly would happen if the left killed i.c.e.? here are some of the facts about i.c.e. i.c.e. is responsible for all immigration enforcement in the united states. last year i.c.e. arrested 32,958 immigrants with criminal records. almost 5,000 of those were members of violent gangs.rr without i.c.e., all those criminals would still be at large within our borders. last year i.c.e. also seized 2,370 pounds of fentanyl, the narcotic that is driving the single deadliest drug crisis inn the history of this country.

that's enough fentanyl to kill every single american citizen by overdose. without i.c.e., that would still be in circulation. they are also the body responsible for deporting anyone illegally inside the united states. last year they removed 2,026,000 people who broke american law. i.c.e. did that because i.c.e. is the only agency we have to do it. without i.c.e., criminal aliens could stay in this country with impunity, including gang members, child molesters, drug smugglers, and convicted murderers. they could not be deported. companies could bring in an unlimited number of illegal workers which could crash wages for american workers, even more than it already has. it would be a disaster, but it's the point. the campaign against i.c.e. is a campaign for open borders and some are honest enough to admit that. activists have chanted this, "no borders, no nations, stop the deportations."

"no borders, no nations." one leads to the others, always. without borders, nations are in impossible. if we pass a law tomorrow allowingng strangers to live in your house, what it still be your house? no, it would be everybody's house and soon, nobody's house. that is the left's plan for america and finally they are saying it out loud. we are going to pause and bringf you to a news conference underway. officials in maryland briefingnd us on the shooting. >> we are in the process of m notifying the next of kin. we have five confirmed fatals and two injuries. the injuries, to my understanding, are superficial, possibly from glass from the shotgun blast. we are working on now securing his residence. he does live in the state of maryland.

we are in the process of securing that residence and preparing for search warrants. so this is the next phase of this scene, and that is the investigative phase. this is the part that takes the as i would assume many of youu have already heard from many other police agenciesol in the state of maryland and across the country, thee investigative process is veryou difficult. we must be thorough and that is why you will not get the information from social media or from us unless it has been confirmed. we have allowed our investigators to do their job and they are there now, and we are going to continue to provide you with information. i want to share something with you that i think is important. we mentioned before about the improvised explosive device. that is not an ied, it was

actually canisters of smoke grenades that he used inside of the building when he entered the establishment. so this person was prepared today to come in. this person was prepared to shoot people. his intent was to cause harm and, as i stated before, the investigative part of this is going to be thorough and it's going to take some time. as you can see behind us, we opened up that road. we thought that we may need to secure that roadway for a long period of time, and as we get further into the investigation, we realize that we don't need that roadway. the building, 888 bestgate, will be secured for some time. i do not have a time frame on that yet.t we will be inside of there for

quite a bit, until this investigation is complete. when i have more confirmed information, i will share that confirmed information with you. >> reporter: exactly what wasou his beef with this newspaper? >> that's what we are investigating now.ly >> reporter: it's already been reported he has a history with the newspaper years ago. >> that's what we are hearing but we need the investigators to confirm that. >> reporter: does he live in annapolis? >> reporter: [unintelligible question] >> no, i can't share that with you. that's the first time i've heard facial recognition. >> reporter: [unintelligible question] >> i can't answer that.. he is at our criminal investigation division. our detectives are down there with him and i have not interrupted him to ask if he's being cooperative.

>> reporter: [unintelligible question] >> you will have the information as soon as we confirm it. >> reporter: [unintelligible question] >> the only connection that i can tell you about right now is possibly through social media. i have no other confirmation. >> reporter: [unintelligible question] >> we are still looking into that. i cannot confirm whether or not our department has come into contact with him and we will have that at a later time as well. >> reporter: have you had any comments from any family members? >> reporter: can you tell us if he is a resident of maryland or' if he came from outside? >> he's a resident of maryland. that will be part of the investigation. i can't confirm whether or nothe he knew employees they are or if he just targeted the business in general.

>> reporter: can you tell us where in maryland? >> no. >> reporter: when will you confirm his identity? >> very soon. >> reporter: can you confirm what type of shotgun? was it a sporting shotgun or were the smoke grenades commercially available or military? >> i don't have that information. >> reporter: were all the people shot in the newspaper office? >> i can't confirm that, they were shot on the first floor. >> reporter: deputy chief, there's talk about the government trying to hide his identity in certain ways, maybe with his fingerprints burned off and things. can you confirm that? >> that's a first time i've heard facial recognition and the first time i've heard fingerprints, no verification of either. >> reporter: did he have a criminal record? >> i can't confirm that. >> reporter: [unintelligible question] >> we know there were threatsfi sent to "the gazette" through social media. he's in his late 30s. the threats were sent over social media and we are trying

to confirm what account that was and trying to confirm who actually sent them. >> tucker: we will continue to in annapolis mary maryland, police describing the horrific shooting at the annapolis newspaper. fivesp dead and a similar number injured. let's go now to our own kristin fisher who has some more details on the story. are you there? >> we are there. we got more information from law enforcement in that press conference and i just want to run through some of the highlights.t i think the biggest was that they are now calling is this ae targeted attack on "the capital gazette" newspaper. it's unclear whether this gunman knew specific employees or if he just had a gripe with theew newspaper itself but we can nowj confirm that the attack was intended to be on "the capital gazette" newspaper, which is a local community newspaper, one of the oldest newspapers in the

country owned by "the baltimore sun." more information about the suspect, he's a white male believed to be in his 30s. law enforcement said he sent threats to "the gazette" through social media. this was a very planned and well prepared attack. he came in through the building, this building just behind me, the brown brick building just behind me. he came in with smoke grenades and a shotgun, and he just went through the first floor newsroom of "the capital gazette" and picked off his victims one by one. we know they are now confirming five dead and two injured. the two injured are essentially superficial injuries. we believe they were injured from glass, which was blasted out from the shotgun. now they are going through the process, a very lengthy process, of interviewing the shooter. he is in custody and we are told he's not being cooperative and

they are trying to get a searchi warrant on his home to go through his home and find some clues there. tucker, the other really bizarre twist in this story is, about the shooter himself, we are hearing that he mutilated his own fingertips, perhaps in an attempt to evade or at least prolong identification.. we don't know exactly what that means or how he did it. was it a long time ago orio recently, but that's part of the reason why it has been so difficult to identify him. they have had to identify him using facial recognition software. so he did not engage with police in the shoot-out. he did not shoot at them. we don't know if he surrendered or what the exact circumstances were there but it's very clear that he wanted to go through some great effort to make sure it would be at least a little bit more difficult foro him to be identified. and the final thing that

everyone is talking about here is the police response. it has just been incredible. the police have been training for an active shooter situation just one week ago. they had a drill to prepare for a situation just like this and they were on the scene within 60 seconds. the governor and the mayor have said they went in without hesitating. they exhibited tremendous courage, and without them, it's almost certain that there would have been several more lives lost, several more people injured. but just a very sad scene out here and some of the developments that we are hearing really are quite bizarre. a final word of caution, we should be getting another update later tonight but law enforcement is now telling us that we are now moving from the active shooter and recovery phase to the investigative phase. this is the phase that obviously takes the longest period of time and they urge the public and urge the press, frankly, to be patient with them to make sure they get the facts straight.

without a doubt, the biggest g question tonight is motive. why did he do this, why did he hold a grudge against the newspaper, was it something that was said in the paper that he didn't like? did he have a gripe with one of the employees? >> tucker: let me stop you and say, there are reports that there is a history of animus or even legal action between this man and the newspaper, we can't confirm that, but it sounds like it is a thread that we will continue to pull. kristin fisher, thank you for that report from annapolis.. >> absolutely. >> tucker: thanks. so before we went to the press conference, we told you about a political development that is reshaping the ideological landscape on the left. parts of the progressive branch have been arguing for months now that we abolish i.c.e., although it has not been in mainstreamm among democrats but it is. abolish i.c.e. democrats are now saying that in growing numbers.

this is the codirector of the immigrant justice clinic at northeastern university and i think he agrees to that sentiment, so we wanted to talk to him about that. thanks so much for coming on. >> thank you for having me, tucker. >> tucker: as a set of a script at the beginning of the show, this is not something that i have taken seriously, that i think most people watching have taken seriously, abolish i.c.e. now we have an obligation to take it seriously. so i'd like to ask you what it would mean. i.c.e. arrests many thousands of illegal aliens in our country who have committed felonies and been convicted of them every year. if there was no i.c.e., they would be arrested. and that would be bad, wouldn't it? >> we existed for hundreds of years before i.c.e. came along 15 years ago. i think the biggest issue isof that i.c.e. has gotten too big. let me give you some statistics. i.c.e. has a yearly budget of $6 billion. the family separation policy

from president trump is expected to cost an extra $2 billion. so i.c.e. was not created to be this big. i.c.e. was created to focus on national security and terrorism and now, people are being arrested who have not committed crimes, people are being arrested who have committed nonviolent crimes. i.c.e. is straying from its original purpose, from the idea of -- h >> tucker: let me say, everything is bigger -- that's the hope, that something else will come along. but in the meantime, you have thousands and thousands and thousands of actual criminals who are here illegally, not people whose only crime is being here, but people who have committed felonies. child molestation, murder and lots of drunk drivers. without i.c.e. they don't get arrested. does that bother you? >> the aclu says 90% of criminal arrests by i.c.e. are for nonviolent crimes. so when president trump ran for office, he said he was going to

bad hombres, the big criminals. >> tucker: without i.c.e., we don't arrest anybody. i understand that you think i.c.e. does more than it should, i get it. it's a real debate and we should have it. >> you are for small government, right? >> tucker: i don't know, i guess in some cases, i'm for protecting the country i was born in, and without i.c.e., we have criminals going free and thousands of pounds of fentanyl on the streets. you can't deny those are real concerns. >> those are concerns but again, there are 20 agencies that handle different things thatuc i.c.e. handles. t now, i.c.e. is so big that the president has power with $6 billion and asking for two more billion dollars using i.c.e. for his own police force. >> tucker: i understand, and i think we disagree on everything,

but i do agree with you that federal agencies do things theyn weren't created to do and i'm against that. i'm sympathetic to your point there. but getting rid of the agency leaves you in the position of having to explain specifically who will arrest the illegal aliens who are also illegal aliens rapists and murderers. there are still a lot of felons. >> a very small percentage. >> tucker: but the numbers are high.igth the percentage is small, i agree. but the aggregate number is big. thousands and thousands of people. who departsrt them? >> but there were smaller agencies -- i think first we just have to -- if you are sort of asking for a solution but first we need to agree that i.c.e. is a problem and the fact that it's $6 million and going after people it shouldn't be going after. it was really intended -- >> tucker: i'm sorry. i don't want to interrupt you but you are missing the point.

people are calling for eliminating the agency. so let's say that happens tomorrow. the democratic left, you, get your wish and i.c.e. is gone. an illegal alien has been busted for drunk driving. should he be deported? people who are here illegally, should they be deported? >> i think we have to -- i think what we have to do is think about abolishing the i.c.e. >> tucker: how about we answer the question? >> what was the question again? >> tucker: the question is, should an illegal alien, busted for drunk driving him up you departed? >> that's too vague of a question. >> tucker: it's a very specific question. speak with the criminal justice system deals with crimes. >> tucker: i'm asking what you think we should do. it's a revolution. we are remaking everything anew. so let's get rid of i.c.e. what are the new rules? i'm here illegally and i get busted for dui. should i be deported? it's a very simple question. >> immigration law is very complicated. that person could have an asylup

claim or many types of reasons why they might be able to stay in the united states, beyond the dui. the criminal justice system can handle crimes. i mean, american citizens commit crimes and they go to jail. >> tucker: but no one is going to deportt illegal aliens withot i.c.e. but you are saying they should all be allowed to stay here with their asylum claims. >> are you saying before -- >> tucker: if you get caught with a crime, you should leave. i'm sorry, they are barking at me, i've got to go. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: thank you. i appreciate it. i hope you come back because i want to know what it means. it's freaking me out. increasingly, radical beliefs are finding a mainstream home in the democratic party. it's all happening very fast but it is happening. yesterday on cnn, future congresswoman ocasio-cortez accused i.c.e. of operating secret black sites on the border. for real, watch this. >> it's extrajudicial in nature

and it's baked into the structure of the agency and that's why they are able to get away with black sites on our border with separation of children. even our own members of congress are not able to access what's happening in these sites and that in itself is secretive in nature. when we know that children are being kept and human rights abuses are happening. >> tucker: david eisenbock is a candidate for the new york city public advocate job. and he joins us tonight. david, thank you for coming on. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: do you believe that i.c.e. is running secret black sites and abducting children and if so, are they doing it in conjunction with aliens? >> i don't know anything about that but i do know if we got rid of i.c.e., we would have a't replacement that would be on the ground and stop the things that you are freaked out about, like importation of drugs and criminals on the streets. >> tucker: here's what bothers me. it's not that any government agency is irreplaceable or that

we shouldn't reform government,, i think we should actually. >> i think it's a healthy thing for democracy. >> tucker: it absolutely is. i'm advocating for it nightg after night. but what scares me is the recklessness behind this. people are saying, just get rid of it and someone will pick up the slack. in the real world, that's not s how things work. if you're the one calling for the elimination of an agency, tell me how you are keeping my w kids from getting hurt. >> you are taking that language on the campaign trail and you are assuming that that's the plan when you go to the policyla realm and you know that's not how it works. >> tucker: you are right, i'm not saying i.c.e. would be eliminated tomorrow. but democrats in the mainstream, this woman is going to be a congressman from new york, arein getting elected and on the promise of doing it. so i have the responsibility to take this seriously. like, what are they calling for? tell me. and then it's like, shut up, no details. >> they are giving details. i.c.e. was created in the wake of 9/11, when we were anxious about a lot of things.

maybe it grew out of control a bit over the course of the years, as federal agencies do, as you know. now it's time to reassess that. we were able to do the things you said before i.c.e. was created. >> tucker: i'd like to know who is going to do them now. the guy i just spoke to said, l if you are here illegally, you should be deported. i mean if we don't agree on that -- if i get busted with dui i can't have a job. somehow, if i'm an illegal alien, i have an asylum claim. really? maybe i'm getting -- they are getting better treatment than me and i am a citizen and a taxpayer. i'm not okay with that. >> get away from that rhetoric and general assumptions and have an adult conversation about how we can replace one organization with another. >> tucker: that's what i am doing! i'm the one guy asking what the details are! i'm not having a rhetorical conversation, give me the details. "no, we don't have those." thank you, appreciate it.

>> i want to say that her victory was a victory against the democratic establishment, which was ignoring the fact that new york city is becoming less and less affordable. corporate democrats, their days are numbered. nancy pelosi -- >> tucker: i'm with her on that. we are are out of time. thank you. figures like congresswoman maxine waters have endorsed harassment of trump administration officials.ls many of the left are refusing to condemn her and quentin james is a founder of the collective, it's a pac, and the critics of that behavior are "accomplices to the trump administration." we wanted to ask him what he meant and he generously agreed to tell us alive tonight. quentin, if you think it's okay to yell at someone in a restaurant because you don't agree with their politics, why not yell at him at a soccer game with his kids or at a funeral or church? what are the boundaries here?

i've not been able to get a straight answer. >> thanks for having me, i think this is a conversation about freedom of speech. t i think you raise a good point, where are the limits? but we need to start this conversation with a piece of truth. maxine waters did not call for violence. she did not call for people to continue to ramp up kind of what we have been seeing from the right, actually, in terms of escalating. >> tucker: let me get factual on you here. maxine waters a couple days ago said, if you see a trump cabinet member, assemble a group and confront them. if i said on my show, if you seen quentin james out at the mall with his kids, you "assemble a group and go confront him." how would you feel about that? >> i'm not a public official. h >> tucker: how would you feel about that?

sure, you are influencing policy, you got a political action committee. are you kidding? so if i said that about you, assemble a group and go t confront quentin, wouldn't you feel threatened? i would. >> we are talking about people -- >> tucker: please answer my question, quentin. >> i'm trying to answer and you keep interrupting me. >> tucker: how would you feel if i said that about you? >> we are talking about ripping children away from their parents. we are talking about banning muslims. people have a right to speak out against that. >> tucker: i'm not contestingni anyone's right to speak ever, i defend it against theak left, every night. i'm just asking you, is there a difference between disagreeing with someone and assembling a group, as maxine waters said, to confront them in public? please answer my question. how would you feel if i did that right now to you on the show, which i would never do? is that threatening or not? >> i don't think protest is in

any way against our democratic values. people have every right to raise and voice their concerns about these really important issues. >> tucker: no one is contesting that, i defend it. but yelling at people and making them leave a restaurant is not -- well, we have a fox news alert. i'm sorry. quentin, thank you for joining us. i'm sorry to cut you short.. we want to tell you this. this show is learning tonight, this is a fox news alert, that white house chief of staff chief of staffff general john kelly may be preparing to leave his job, likely very soon. kelly is an honorable and capable man, one of the mostay impressive ever to all that post. many will be sad to see him go, me included. the question is, who replaces him? apparently there are several candidates. those would include all mba director mick mulvaney. mulvaney is a whiz on

budget matters but does he agree with the president on immigration issues? can he represent trump voters on border reform? that's not a small thing. that ought to be an absolute requirement for that job. white house chief of staff. also on the list, we are hearing, his former aide, hope hicks. l hope hicks is young and generally press shy. relatively few out of washington have heard her speak. but in a white house written by factionalism and leaking, hicks is maybe one of the few people in washington or on the planet that has the reflexive trust of the president. he could use more people like that for sure at a time like this. we will keep you posted on thatu up next, we will look at the highlights and the low lights of the reaction to kennedy's retirement. also, continue to follow the breaking news out of annapolis, maryland, where a gunman took five lives and injured at least five more. we will be right back. ♪ napoleon is duping us! all around louisiana... you're a nincompoop!

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solidifying the pro-corporate antiworker wing of the supreme court. i think what we are looking for is the nomination of a right wing extremist. >> tucker: mollie hemingway is a senior editor at "the federalist" and she joins us now. bernie is telling us this is the nomination of a right wing extremist. does he know who is getting the nomination? i hadn't heard. >> we do not know who is getting the nomination although we do have a list of potential nominees from president trump. what that speaks to is people have a lot of interest in the supreme court because the supreme court itself has so much power and has done so much in recent decades to really push issues even over and against the way that the people have voted. and particularly when it comes to liberal social activism. you've seen a tremendous push by the court to overturn what people have voted on, and the

supreme court has, in many ways, too much power when the resignation of one person can cause so much anxiety by people on both left and right. >> tucker: that's exactly right. it is not a healthy democracy when the least democratic institution has the most power. but how can you denounce someone as a right wing extremist when you don't know who that person is? is that a little weird? was it always that way? the rhetoric seems to be getting more intense. >> think about kennedy in the 1980s which happened itself that vote was declined by a democratic senate, and his replacement, ginsburg, ended up withdrawing. kennedy was nominated by reagan and ended up with quite a bit of social activism, whether that was redefining marriage to include same-sex couples or, roe v. wade was a very written decision. he did a lot to save that with the casey decision. you don't even know what you are

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aspiring dictators." he was clearly sweating and shouting when he wrote that. richard goodstein joins us tonight. i thought the critique of trump from the left was that he was violating democratic norms. but the democratic norm is the elected president gets to nominate to fill vacancies on the supreme court, which trump is doing, because again he's president. but now we are hearing that he shouldn't be allowed to do that. so how can you be for democratic norms but oppose that? >> that wasn't the president that was followed with merrick garland, was it? >> tucker: no, it wasn't. it's the biden rule or mcconnell >> so i'm not saying whether it's the biden rule or mcconnell rule, i think that's frankly silly talk. what alarms people, donald trump said that women should be punished for having abortions and their doctors should be treated criminally.

you had 20 republican legislators in ohio today advance the position that women should get the death penalty who have abortions. so if any of your viewers have someone in their family or a friend that they know of who has had an abortion, that person should be scared to death. or if they had a friend who is gay, that behavior was criminalized. >> tucker: that's just silly. it's always about abortion. how many -- hold on. it's a sincere question. how many abortions, more abortions, do we need until we get really happy? like, what's the ideal number of abortions would you say in america? >> they should be safe and rare. >> tucker: but how many should we have? because the idea is that whenever you restrict abortion, it's bad, how many would make this country, like, a great country again, would you say? >> that's a very dismissive view of the views of women who should have control over their bodies. >> tucker: it's not dismissive dismissive. >> of course we should have as

few abortions as possible but the women who choose to go that route should not be put in jail. and if donald trump have their way, this is what will happen. >> tucker: you don't believe that, it's too dumb. you don't even -- hold on. so donald trump is a big pro-life activist now, okay. let's stop the bs'ing the audience now. isn't it kind of an insult to the intelligence of everybody that democrats are attacking a nominee when there isn't a nominee? shouldn't you hear the person's positions before you dismiss him or is it just, everybody that is nominated is bad? that is a dumb person position, isn't it? >> donald trump did something running for president that others didn't. he said i want to have a litmus test. i want to reverse roe vs. wade. he also said these women should be treated criminally. we are just taking him at his word and looking at this list of people. >> tucker: he's not nominating himself to the supreme court! it's always about abortion.

that's where the money comes from. again, that happiness or something. >> there are a lot of issues -- >> tucker: thank you. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: noted. good to see you. new footage of the las vegas shooting show police waiting in the hallway as the killing continues for minutes. maybe that's why they were hiding this from us for months and months. we have details on that, next. ♪ just one free hearing test at his local miracle ear helped andrew hear more of the joy in her voice. just one hearing test is all it took for him to hear more of her laugh... and less of the background noise around him. for helen, just one visit to her local miracle-ear is all it took to learn how she can share more moments with her daughter. just one free hearing test could help you hear more... laughter...music...life... call now for your free hearing test from an industry leader: miracle-ear.

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catherine bardo is an attorney representing some of the victims of those shootings and she joins us. thank you for coming on. the first question is, why are we finding this out now? this seems like a central piece of information in the story. >> because the courts ordered the las vegas metro police department to release all of this video footage and pursuant to court order, they are releasing it piece by piece over the last couple months. as you know, yesterday we received about a dozen videos y and many more audio videos showing mostly police officer body worn camera footage. it's fascinating and it is also very, very upsetting. it shows the extreme-ness of the event and of the trauma that everyone there, the 22,000

people who are there, have suffered. i have been in that very hallway in that stairwell, at the door there on the 31st floor and the 32nd floor. i was there just some months ago. and what the video clearly shows is one particular police officer was on the 31st floor. not the 32nd floor, and he was there for many moments. what we find interesting is that the mandalay bay security officer who was with that particular police officer before the shooting started and raced through the casino floor and raced up the elevators with him, this particular mandalay bay security guard said that he was on the 32nd floor with that particular officer in the video on the 31st floor. this mandalay bay security manager told the fbi on nine separate occasions in his interviews that he was certain

he was with this officer hendrix on the 30 second-floor. they already knew officer hendrix was on the 31st floor but it wasn't until yesterday when all of that video was released that we finally got confirmation that something is wrong, something is amiss. this whole thing is just the tip of the iceberg and we've only scratched the surface. >> tucker: it's unbelievable. this is the second time in several months we've seen armed police officers stand there while a mass murder takes place. i'm sympathetic to cops becausee they take a lot of crap but i think we deserve an explanation for why this keeps happening. >> as am i.. one last thought on that, i have a client whose spouse was shot and killed inside the venue during the 12th and final burst of gunfire. and i just want to put that out there because had they been able to -- >> tucker: right, can you imagine? we are out of time unfortunately, but i hope our

audience meditates on that. two top department of justice officials were grilled on capitol hill today for trying to keep information from congress, another theme we arere seeing recently. w we will show you the highlights on that, next. ♪

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>> tucker: the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein and fbi director christopher >> tucker: the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein and fbi director christopher wray appeared on capitol hilll today where they clashed with some republicans who accuse the department of justice of hiding information from congress. here's part of the exchange. >> if you have evidence that this president acted inappropriately, presented to the american people. there's an old saying that justice delayed is justice denied. i think right now all of us are being denied.

whatever you've got, finish it the hell up. because this country is being torn apart. >> with regard to the investigation, i have heard suggestions that we should just close the investigation. i think the best thing we can do is finish it appropriately and reach a conclusion. >> tucker: tom fitton is the president of judicial watch and he joins us tonight. tom, when is this going to wrap up, do we have any sense of anig end date for the russianra investigation? >> there is no imminent end date. this obstruction investigation into trump's firing of comey, who knows when that will end. and then you have the russian collision investigation. we know there has been no russia collusion with president trump, so i don't kno what mueller is doing. he hasn't presented any information about where he is in his investigation. frankly, he should be on the hill testifying since he seems to be the one running the

justice department and the fbi on this important matter. >> tucker: so how did they respond, wray and rosenstein, under these questions?ns >> they seem, i think, oblivious to the concerns americans have about the credibility and leadership of the justice department and the fbi. obviously under the obama administration, it was an absolute disaster. but they don't want to grapple with the fact that congress doesn't trust them to turn over the documents they have and it certainly, director wray doesn't seem to think the ig report was about the fbi. he keeps thinking that it wasn't about the institution of the fbi but some people who happent to work there, when in fact it b was the leadership of the fbia that was severely ethically compromised. during the obama administration and well into the trump

administration. mr. rosenstein has a dozen excuses why the documents are not being produced to congress. and those are decisions by the justice department not to comply with subpoenas in a timely way and he doesn't have any excuses as to why it takes years and months to turn over basic text information, why certain texts weren't turned over, and when pressed on it, he said i have a lot of people working on it very hard and if they miss it or there are mistakes that are madn i would go back and share your concerns with them. it doesn't sound very satisfying to anyone who is trying to get answers about the most in significant corruption issue in a generation. >> tucker: it's so evasive. i don't know about you, i used to be impressed by the doj and fbi, this is sad to see. tom, thank you. we will have an update for you on the shooting in annapolis, maryland, at the newspaper, right after this break. we'll be right back. ♪ rance company

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♪ >> tucker: this is a fox news alert. five people are dead, several more badly injured in annapolis, maryland. the gunmen attacked the "capital gazette" newspaper earlier today. the suspect is in custody. reporter jane miller says police are searching his home. she also reports that the suspect's twitter bio page reads this way. "dear reader, i created this page to defend myself, now i am suing the s word out of aa county and making corpses of corrupt careers and corporate elites." he also illustrated earliero ths afternoon. spooky. a former assistant director of the fbi joins us tonight. it sounds just from that, assuming this is the guy, there is some long-standing feud but he between him and this newspaper. >> no doubt about that. i don't think he can make that,

either. i think he came there to e.my correct garment -- direct carnage on that place. he tried to modify his fingerprints. i don't think this was a suicide thing. i think the cops got there so quick, kudos to him, he gotpp dropped. good for everybody, good for the victims and society can too. >> tucker: very quickly, you see people on television drawing snap conclusions. what do you think? >> they shouldn't do that. i thought the officer that gave the press briefing was really good. he told us what he knew and he wouldn't tell us things were he had to guess. that's perfect. you don't often see that. he should be commended by that is very important. >> tucker: i wish cable news figures would stick to that standard. thank you very much for capping it off for us tonight. >> you got it, thanks. >> tucker: it's been a huge news day. amazing. still digesting.

hope you will join us tomorrow night. the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. the great sean hannity is next, live from new york city. >> sean: that is pomposity and groupthink. we are humble, trying to save america, make america great. tucker, great show. >> tucker: [laughs] they give, sean. >> sean: we are trying our best because i as i know you ar. ournu opening monologue in a few minutes. from the reporting today, tragedy strikes a maryland, armd gunmen killed and seriously injured multiple individuals at a newspaper office. this in annapolis, maryland, for a joining us now with the very latest on this is kristin fishe. tough day for everyone. can you update us on what is goingma on? >> yeah, john. police are confirming this was indeed a targeted attack on the capital gazette newspaper. we don't know if the shooter had a problem with the