noble. is this real or just a cover? i'll be back tomorrow night filling in for sean. have a great night. laura ingraham is live next! >> laura: hey, judge. did you did an audio book? can we hearr you? >> yes! yes! i did an audio book, laura. i'm going to send you one. >> how long did it take you to do it? >> 2 1/2 days! >> it's: nightmarish, isn't it? you should have had guest voices. next year i want to be a guest voice on your book. >> you and i could do an audio book together. we can do high and low. >> laura: thank you. great show tonight. good evening from washington. i'm. laura ingraham, this is the "ingraham angle." devin nunnnes is redoubling his efforts to find out whetherer te trump campaign really was under

surveillance. he's got something exclusively to share with us tonight. plus, the left just cannot stop comparing themselves to the bright ones, of course, the conservatives and the nazis. ben shall be pirro joins us -- shapiro joins us with reaction to a violent new slur against him. >> michael cohen could flip on the president. did he really imply that in an abc interview today? but first, the democratic meltdown and the war on ice. that's the focus of tonight's "angle." >> there were 700 or so leftish marches over the weekend organized to protest president trump's zero tolerance approach to border jumpers. >> we have children being housed in cages crying for their mommies and daddies. we know we are better than this!

>> do we want to be an america that values children and families? >> the power and the people shall and will be a lot stronger than the people in power. did you hear that, donald trump? >> where's the love, donald trump. >> laura: i don't even know who that last person is. what is that? they were talking about family separations at the border, despite the fact president trump ended that policy two weekends ago. do they not read? well, of course what all of you "smart" people already know because you watch "the ingraham angle" the left really isn't worried about the kids. is that cynical? well, maybe it is. if they were really worried about kids, they would be at regular rallies in chicago and baltimore where unexpectedly high number of children are left fatherless or even die themselves because of gangbangers and fighting turf

wars. now, what's most upsetting to these protesters is that despite all of their efforts, trump's approval numbers keep edging up. soei their only recourse is to demonize trump as heartless. you hear "kids in cages" all time. it's an opportunity forof democrats to trot out new radical policy positions. now, ever since that 28-year-old socialist in new york, cortez, beat democratic incumbent, joe crawley, democrat for leadership, number under the party, the party's old guard has been reeling. now they're straining for relevance and tripping all over themselves to align with that millennial socialist.ve they want to now abolish immigrations, customs and enforcement, because that was a big part of her platform. look at how well she did. so, again, rather than challenging her flawed thinking,

this is the homeland security's major enforcement arm, let's not forget that democrats have decided to dash leftward and endorse her idea. >> we believe that we should protect families that need our help. that's not what ice is doing today. t that's why i believe you should get rid of it, start over, reimagine it and build something that actually works. >> look at ice.an what a group of incompetence! at this point, they're focused more on toddlers than terrorists. instead of focusing on stopping bad guys from coming in and stopping c dirty drug money from going out, they're focusing on separating kids from their families. >> hey, dick, the policy didn't exist any longer, but any way, ice doesn't separate kids at the border. like of the protesters surrounding durbin, it seems like they all confuse ice with customs and border protection. it's border control, border patrol that arrests illegals at the border and runs them through

processing. ice is the law enforcement agency that was set up, you'll remember, after 9/11 to protect us from international security threats, particularly those posed by people in the on country illegally. so how ironic is it that four new new york politicians, senator jillbrand, mayor de blasio and gubernatorial sixthia nixon andd congressional candidate cortez are now leading the abolish ice movement charge? nifty. well, the problem for all of them is that the people just aren't buying this the latest harvard harris poll shows that while 88% believe that families who cross the border illegally should not be separated, 76% want secure borders. 53% believe we should prosecute those entering the country illegally while 64% agree that you should send the border crossers back home. but no matter where they stand on the nuances of immigration

policy a whopping 70% want stricter enforcement of existing immigration lawser. so how are you going to do that exactly if you abolish the agency that is charged with investigating human trafficking, drug and weapons -- drug smuggling, weapons smuggling? ice is the agency that also tracks down criminal, illegal immigrants and then they remove them from the country. democrats claim they're for that, so if criminals make it over the border, are we just to let them maraud across country? good look at turning that onto a platform that actually wins votes. >> you get rid of ice, you're going to have a country that you're going to be afraid to walk out i of your house. i love that issue if they're going to actually do that. they're seriously talking about that? because you're going to have a that's crime-ridden. the border patrol, the border patrol agents b, ice, these peoe are incredible. >> laura: the president

understands the political calculus here and his zero tolerance policy, remember, it brought border arrests in june down to their lowest level since february, according to the a.p. that was the story, but if democrats think melting downhe a national law enforcement agency with 20,000 employees that's working to keep americans safe in communities all across the u.s. is a solution, i think they have another thing coming. it not only sounds like an idea you'd hear at some undergrad student center over some ben & jerry's, it's also dangerous. the democrats push to abolish ice. it's as off key as the entertainment of some of their big rallies over the weekend. >> i'm just going to sing a lullaby that i wrote and this is for those parents. and we're not going to stop until theyey can sing them to their kid again. >> we treat asylum seekers with compassion. we don't seek to punish them for trying to do what is right for

their families. >> ♪ oh, you outshape on the -- outshine the morning sun, my son ♪ when you smile, i fall apart. >> laura: side note, wasn't he nominated but he lost the tony for best musical performance? best actor? he was nominated, though come on. "hamilton" was fantastic. was the writing and the composing -- trump scores a win on the economy. international relations, trade and now the second supreme court pick, disspiritted democrats are looking for hope somewhere. what did they do this weekend? other than listening off-key performances? they turn to the one, the community organizer and chief himself, barack obama appeared with all the little people at a beverly hills fund-raiser this weekend, making his first appearance in months. he declared the gathering a mope-free zone. and while the word is that he's

been devoting himself to fund-raising foror his library d writing his memoirs, obama is now on a dnc fund-raising swing commanding more than $100,000 a plate. and without mentioning trump, he told the sankey crowd, "this is a moment of great -- swanky crowd. >> this is a moment of great urgency and you're right to be concerned." with the self-referential heir, he mused, "we shouldn't expect politics to be entertaining all the time. christina aguilera was wonderle, you don't need to have an amazing singer at every event. sometimes you're in a church basement making phone calls and eating a cold pizza." that's easy for him to say. he spent a lot of time over the last year at richard brandon's private island. cold pizza for the other people. in many ways, the explosion of protests that tilts to the left and the ineffective democratic of this is the if you willtillment of what obama first ushered into his party.

the obama era and the party it leftd behind always prized style over experience and result. and now, a new generation of inspires -- inexperience charismatic leftists are moving to the fore of the party giving speeches and leading marches and resisting trump. but original thinking and a governing strategy continues to elude them. with every tack to the left, they merely estrangee themselves from the vast middle and working class of this country, catering only to the progressive elites in manhattan and malibu. should this continue come november, well, voters, even democratic ones, may be pulling the lever to abolish the democrats and that's "the angle." joining us now with reaction is democratic congressman from illinois, raja, former pennsylvania congressman and democrat, jason altmeyer, and

democratic strategist ladawn jones. let's first go to the congressman. i feel like the democrats are in a way where the republicans were kind of 2009 before the tea partyy really got going and they're looking for fraction somewhere. now, it's -- traction somewhere. now it's abolish ice whereas ice was looking to deport people in large numbers whenhe obama was president. i didn'tea hear any of the fancy pants politicians talk about abolishing ice back then. how does it actually get traction now, congressman? >> thank you for having me on, laura. the way we get traction is connecting to the real economic problems of working families and presenting our agenda for making sure everyone gets on the up escalator of the economy. if you're working poor, how do we get you into the middle-class. if you're in the middle-class, how do we get to you succeed. if you want to start and grow a

small business our do we allow for -- how do we allow for to you do that as well? that's how we take majority. >>ri laura: isn't that what president trump is doingng right now? he's bringing people back into the work force who haven't been workingrk who basically gave up hope. now they're returning to the work force in very large numbers. some people say we have a dirt of employees and we need more in the country -- berth of employees and we need more in the country. wages are going up. african-american employment is very low. all-time low.. latino employment also at almost a record low. so i get what you're describing. i think it's great, but problem is, trump's already doing it. >> well, i'll point to a couple of things that people talk to me about every single day. just take for example health care., they're seeing their health care expenses go up under the trump presidencycy. the markets are becoming more and more unstablere despite bipartisan efforts to try to stabilize it. it appears the trump administration is not interested in necessarily doing that. >> laura: ok so obam carr will

beng -- obamacare will be your argument then? miss jones, i want to go with you on that, because, of course, what the republicans are worried about is with obamacare, contrary to whatgu was argued, premiums would start to go up. they wouldn't happen immediately but when w you mandate people go into a pool of insured who obviously are higher risk because they have preexisting conditions, that cost is going to have to be spread around and insurance companies have more bills to pay and rates start going up, up, up, up, up. that's exactly what's happened. it's no surprise a lot of these exchanges couldn't keep up. how are you guys going to get the traction you need with this economy as hot as it is? >> well, the traction is already there. we're already seeing by the messages being spread. you know, i don't want to get back into the obamacare debate and what it's doing. we've already seen trump work very hard to dismantle obamacare and the care that many americans

think they need.y democrats learned in the 2016 election that there's a voice not t being heard. rather than trying to move to the v center to gather and get e votes of people who clearly were on a completely different plane, those are the trump voters, because you can't attract those voters, that we have to stick to our principles.s, our principles are making america a place for everyone to live. a place that's got humanity and care that includes health care and sound immigration policy that's fair, right, just and humane. that goes across the board. >> laura: the polls aren't showing that, miss jones. i hear what you're saying and i think you're doing the best you can under the circumstances but the polls aren't bearing that out. most people believe ift you come into the country illegally, it's sad when your family gets separated, no one wants to see that, but it's your responsibility. you made a decision to cross the border. you didn't go through a normal port of entry. now you're complaining america doesn't have a heart -- which is what one woman did today that was reunited with her daughter. it's nice she was reunited, but

she made that decision. i understand the hard argument. i get the compassion argument, but americans have been struggling for, like, three decades and haven't seen a raise. so, -- there's only so much of the love you can spread around when your own family, an american citizen or an american veteran on a street, is having trouble. >> that's amazing, though, so many americans or at least knows yourur circle complain that the reason why immigration is a problem is not just safety, because they're taking american jobs. >> laura: they have taken american jobs. in fact, i've interviewed people that have taken american jobs. >> there are farmers struggling to find w people to do the work. >> 5% of the work force, yeah. >> they were doing jobs you didn't want. >> that's 5% of the work force. the argument americans are lazy a loser. that doesn't work. jason, we have to go to you on this. this is what chuck todd said today. he's no great fan of the president about where the democrats are at this moment. let's watch. >> the announced retirement of supreme court justice anthonyan kennedy this week helped make

one political reality clarity. president trump is winning and the democrats right now are reeling. the democrats' reaction this week to the kennedy retirement this week proved anything is that the democratic party hasn't figured out how to succeed in the trump era. >> laura: jason, your reaction? >> i saw that chuck said that. i think he's right.. i think he accurately diagnosed the problem. the democrats, if you go back say six months, had control of all the cards going into the midterms. you have the historical loss of seats by the incumbent party. you have some missteps that were made by the administration, the democrats had successfully prevented the repeal of obamacare. we're winning on a generic ballot. they had an issue that was politically beneficial to them as well as i feel being on the morally just side in preventing the -- or forcing the change in policy of the separations at the border and then to move further to the left because of one election that occurred in one congressional district now to encourage uncivil disobedience,

to confront members of the administration, members of the a way that is outside the bounds of normal political discourse in this country, the democrats are in great danger of blowing the advantage they worked so hard to create. >> laura: congressman, i want to go to you on this, because there's now this effort that's kind of gone viral. a young african-american male who i've never heard of before goes on -- i think he tweeted this originally -- that's what i thought -- and you'll watch. >> a year ago, i was still a liberal. i reject a system which allows an ambitious, misinformed and dogmatic mob to suppress free speech, create false narratives and appearically steam roll over the truth. i reject hate. these are the reasons why i became a liberal. and these are the same reasons why i'm now walking away. >> laura: yeah, that's another

one. the guy who originally started is was african-american. so interesting is that just kind of a catchy thing? that doesn't really connect with you? or could that be the democrats' version of a nightmare where people say, ok, i'm a democrat but i'm not for harassing people that a restaurant. i'm not for abolishing a department or an agency, wing of an agency that's got 20,000 employees that fights human smugglers and drug cartels. i'm going to walk away from that. are you worried about that? >> look, i'm concerned when, you know, we can't necessarily disagree without being disagreeable. we have to learn to talk to each other. we have to learn to talk to people who disagree with us if we're p going to persuade them o come to our side. that's what i have do in my district which is a suburban district in chicago in the heartland. that being said, i'm going to stay true to my principles. i believe in, for instance,

making sure that the right to health care is still preserved for all americans. that people coulds educate their children. and that they could afford childcare and at the same time see their wages go up. i believe we can stay true to those principles and talk to people on the other side and also as someone mentioned earlier also advocate for a humane treatment of immigrants and others, you know, true to our american tradition. >> laura:er yeah, well, trump actually, miss jones, trump has done away with the family separation policy, yet at these rallies, they keep acting like it's still existence. it's not. he did away with it. >> laura, can i address for one moment, please? >> laura: real quick. we have to get back to miss jones. >> one thing that people are very, very upset about is there's still about 2,000 children who are separated from their parents. we don't know how they're going to be reunited with them. >> laura: right. they are going to be reunited. the administration announced today -- they announced today

they're for certain that happening. listen, guys, again, the whole democrats' whole platform, as far as i can tell to reach voters is resist trump and family separation policy that doesn't exist that's getting fixed and abolish ice. those are -- that's like the main deal that's getting all the media coverage. again, miss jones, i want to go back to you. you have to win pennsylvania. you have to win ohio. you have to win wisconsin. you have to win florida. itis might work in the bronx or work in brooklyn or work in malibu or brentwood or even madison, wisconsin, but the vast majority of americans in those heartland states, that's not what they're worried about. they want breadte and butter issues. your reaction. >> that's true. those folks in the heartland of america should know that in trump's first three months of being president, he cut so many programs and federal programs that included urban and rural business opportunities, water opportunities, so if we're worried about cutting federal

programs, then let's talk about -- >> laura: we're out of time, guys. thank you so much. we'll have you back. we'll havee you on radio. maybe you can come on tomorrow. surveillance abuseses against the trump administration coming up.

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♪ >> laura: house until terry devin nunes is tightening the screws of his investigation into alleged abuses of the trump campaign.an the congressman is referring the names of 17 current and former justice department and f.b.i. officials to the heads of the house oversight and judiciary committees for interviews. just hours ago, he added 10 more names to the list this time former obama state department employees. joining us now with more is congressman devin nunes. congressman, it's great to see you. now, i know people are watching across the country getting ready for the fourth of july. devin nunes wants more information. i'm playing devil's advocate here. when will it end? you're always complaining about documents. h now you're complaining about people but there are a lot of people on this list that are new names to people like victoria newland. tell us why youla want her to testify? >> well, first of all, i want to

make sure that the american people know this is just one more step in the process. i think we've been very transparent about how we've conducted this process. we want onto fisa abuse and other matters. i've said for a long time we're looking at the state department when we began looking at the state department, you had victoria newland and other people who decided to go out and talk about other things publicly, which actually helped our investigation out quite a bit. the reason why is because we still don't understand how this investigation was actually opened, but we know that many people in the obama era staten department were involved in the opening of that investigation. so it all comes down to how did the information make it from supposedly an australian high commissioner/ambassador to the f.b.i.? we know that that doesn't come through whatso i would call five eyes intelligence it wasn't real intelligence product. it somehow short-circuited that process we also know many people

in the state department were meeting with christopher steel. christopher steel is the person who was hired by the democrats to dig up dirt on president trump. so this is why this investigation is taking awhile, but we are -- the good thing is that i believe that chairman gowdy and goodlatte, their task force will interview these people in public. it'll be be the first time during this w entire investigatn that the american people get to see actual questions get answered to these potential witnesses. >> laura: ok, again, state department. why would the state department be involved with the christopher steel dossier issue? again, phony dossier, christopher steel, mi-6, worked as an agent. supposedly has all of these russian sources and why would this woman, elizabeth dibble, be on your list who was -- i think was she the director of the deputy chief for the mission in london for the state department?

that seems like someone you might be looking at for one of the, you know, people put into the trump campaign allegedly, as an informant, correct? >> i wouldn't go there, but two parallel tracts here. you kind of touched on both of them. one, we have the london episode. somehow information made it from the australian government to the f.b.i. we believe that went through london and somehow went to the obama state department and then ended up in the justice department. so that's one track. the second track is christopher steel. what i on earth was christopher steel doing meeting with state department officials? why was the steel dossier that supposedly that the f.b.i. was trying to get their hands on, why was it also going through the state department? so a lot of people had their hands on the steel dossier including many people in the media who knew about the steel dossierel and this is really a

collapse. what we're having to do here as the legislative branch of government, we're having to do the work that the media won't do, because there are very few in the media who will actually cover this story try to get to the bottom of it. that's part of what is taking so long.f typically, you would have a free and fair and transparent media trying to get to the truth, but in this case, we haven't had that. > laura: so jonathan, is it weiner? wasn on your list? who was he? and i guess it was several months ago, he said he's being unfairly targetedra by you? >> yeah, yeah, that was quite interesting that he thought we were targeting him because at the time, we weren't sure exactly what t he knew or didn't know. but thankfully, he was very clear in the statements that made that he was one of the people that was looking at the steel information and was conveying that information in some form or fashion to the f.b.i. so, f look, we want to interview these folks. these folks worked for the american taxpayer. they were paider by the american

taxpayer. >> laura: how can you tell that? can you can subpoena them? >> oh, they'll testify. they can plead the fifth but this isn't going to be like the documents where we've had to continue to fight with the justice department in order to have access to documents. this is much different.ti these are all american citizens. they will, if they don't agree to appear under oath and testify , then they will be subpoenaed. that i can tell you for sure. >>na laura: um, i want to get your reaction to something adam sheriff, -- adam schiff said about you and your colleagues last week on cnn. >> the four horsemen of this apocalypse has been devin nunes, trey gowdy and -- [ indiscernible ] leading the charge to require the justice department to give them materials that could be leaked, fed or misrepresented like the infamous nunes

memorandum in the service of the president. in the meantimee, they do enorms damage to these institutions, ultimately,ly they'll be held accountable. >> laura: sounds like a threat, congressman. >> yeah, we're not going to be threatened by the democrats. i mean, look, they're the ones that have all of this blood on their hands.. they're the ones who have completely destroyed the f.b.i. and doj. how did they do that? they did that by digging up dirt,t? the clinton campaign dug up dirt and put it into a dossier and fed it into the f.b.i. and the f.b.i. used our counterintelligence capabilities against a political campaign. that's what happened here. so the democrats and the house and the senate have continued to -- in the h house and the senate have continued to want to offuscate and cover up. if it was up to the democrats, we would have never found out that hillary clinton and the democrats paid christopher steel to generate this dirt on president trump. i tend to ignore everything they say. we continue to do our work day in and day out to get to the truth and gradually, we're getting to the truth and i

believe as thesehe hearings take place and testimony is given to the congress, i think it'll be a much-needed sunlight in this investigation. i think the american people will be able to see who is telling the ruth and who is not telling the truth.. -- who is telling the truth and who is not telling the truth. >> laura: congressman, i think we all want to have an open session. we're tired of the closed session deal. american people are kept in the darkrk and then we hear bits and pieces of what happens or the flavor of what happened behind closed doors. with someone likevo a victoria newland, other obama state department people and maybe even that joseph who interviewed michael flynn, he could -- sources tell me he could be a potential whistle-blower to tell what he actually understood in that interview, namely that michael flynn did not lie. >> i agree you 100%. i agree with you 100%. that's w partly why i'm sending

these names over to the judiciary and oversight committee because they already have a task force. the task force has been convened. they should be able to do all of these hearings in the public full transparency so that people could watch on live television. that would be -- that is my recommendation to the committee chairman. i believe they will follow that recommendation and they may have other names. so far,on we sent them the 17 ps the 10. it's 27 names we've sent them. we'll be sending them more names here late they're week. >> laura: congressman -- later this week. >> laura: congressman, thank you for joining us tonight. we really appreciate it. formerci trump attorney michael cohen breaks his silence. but why? what's going on there? could the left be missing his true message? dan and chris debate next. dan bongino and chris

♪ >> the big questions i asked him is what will you do if prosecutors come to and you offer you leniency in return for information on president trump?

now, he said he wanted to respect the process. didn't get into specifics, but he added this, and he added this with emphasis. my wife a, my daughter and my sn have my first loyalty and always will. i put stanley and country first. nothing -- family and country first. nothing there about loyalty to president trump. in fact, he didn't praise president trump at all during that 45-minute interview. >>te laura: that from abc's jeff stephanopoulousmp reporting the conversation he hadta with michl cohen. he's going to flip! is that really the case? let's bring in dan and chris. dan, i mean, we've been hearing that michael cohen is going to flip. he's going to flip. he's going to flip. he's going to flip. stephanopoulous sits down and

you have the dramatic photo, sitting across from each other. the guy is facing potential jail time. i don't blame him for being worried about his family. it's got to always be through the prism of, ok, we have more bad news for donald trump. of what this? >> this is the umpteenth-thousandth time. we have him. here we go. we had it against flynn. flynn was going to flip. then we had a journalist leave a network today supposedly because of reporting that story in advance. i'm getting tired of it. you're right. you have to view it through the prism of the media that can't stand donald trump. we don't know what is going with cohen's head? is he trying cozy up the media? get the media on his side? the one take-away from this that the audience needs to understand is that this is clearly now an investigation into a person, not a crime. the investigation is into donald trump. they'll do anything to get him. this has nothing to do with collusion. we know it, because it was revved to the southern district from -- referred to the southern

district from the special counsel. they're looking for trump, not looking for a crime. >> laura: chris, this is what michael said about what cohen really wants here. let's watch. >> this is michael cohen trying to send a message to the president that he wants the president to pay his legal bills or he's going to flip. you know, he's playing games with the american people. if he has information that's damaging to this president -- and i know for a fact that he does -- then he should come forward ande state it and disclose it now. what he's doing is playing games by giving g these off-camera interviews like you saw today. >> laura: chris yours reaction now. >> i don't know. i mean, i don't know what michael was trying to say there. here is what my take-away is. two weeks ago when we were talking about him potentially flipping, we were reacting to an abc news story which had a single by line george stephanopoulous. today he gave an interview to

george stephanopoulous. i don't know if those two things are connected but they might be. we don't know what he's going to do and what he might have. as for the attorneys leaving which i was big conversation and he taking on a new attorney, that's been a sign that he may be making a deal. what he's going to make that deal on, i don't know, but there's no one in america that knows donald trump better than michael cohen, at least as far as a lawyer goes and we know he was the president's fixer, but we already know those things. so we want to know exactly what else the guy has. as for flip flynn, flynn did flip and next week, he'll be in court and we'll know exactly what he flipped to. >> laura: chris, you heard what he said. first of all, he says i know for a fact -- how do you know for a fact? he's representing a porn star! he knows for a fact -- knows for a fact it's going to be damaging to the president, going back to dan's point. this is about trump. mueller sends it down to the southernrn district or rosensten

sends it down to the southern district after mueller sends it to rosenstein and gets down there and now you can -- you know, you can do things and look for information in a new venue with someone, you're right, that's closer to the president. >> i hear thates argument a lot. this is about trump. well, if trump did nothing wrong, then why is everyone so worried about it? michael cohen was his fixer. what was he fixing? >> laura: you know something that "fixer phrase" and, dan, you can chime in here. i'mra so sick of hearing "fixer" it's like, "fixer, fixer, fixer." what do you pay a lauer for? whether it's a -- a lawyer for? whether it's a parking ticket or a speeding ticket. i need to you handle it. what is it? fix the situation. i'm going to pay you a lot of money per hour for to you fix my problem. when they sayy "it's a fixer" that's more spin. that's more lingo. that's what a lawyer did. >> the court found he didn't

work with the lawyer. >> seriously, chris ithought better than you! i mean it! is this seriously going to be the new liberal take? please, don't embarrass yourself in the media by continuing to say this. if you didn't do anything y wro, you have nothing to worry about. are you serious? >> yeah. >> i'm going to stick a cop on one of your houses -- hear me out here. >> i'm sure you defended -- i'm sure you defended -- [ indiscernible ] with the same thing. >> people like you say that. no. no. no. don't distract. people like you say that because you've never been a police officer or a federal agent like i have, andnd you don't understd the awesome power to ruin someone's life -- listen to me! >> laura: ham sandwich guy. >> you have never done it you have never once put handcuffs on people. not one time. dis.ura: somehow [ everyone speaking at once ] >> that's a standard. chris, i'm sorry. i'm sorry. i'm sorry. i'm an attorney, you're a criminal -- i know the awesome

power. [ everyone speaking at once ] >> you don't know squat. you've never done that. >> laura: guys, guys! >> the president is not going to be on the street with no lawyer. this is a very wealthy man. >> laura: guys. stop! stop! stop! stop! americans across the country are like -- stop for a second. you're both very passionate about this, but i think the point is in civil libertarians on the left used to really care about this. there's only like three i can think of right now, and two are people i know closely, whether it's derrishwitz or a few others, -- dershowitz or a few others used to care about the unbridled power of prosecutors. ier was a criminal defense attorney. i know, chris, you're an attorney and dealt with criminal matters. it is ai serious, awesome powe. the problem here is -- >> it is. it is! >> the problem here is it started as russia collusion and now we're at c michael cohen isa fixer and we're going to take all of his computers and phones and turn the screws on him so he's worried he's not going to

see his children and his wife for 20 years.. that's where we ended up and i don't think that's where the country ever understood that special pressure on -- special prosecutor to end up through the side channels to end up on the southern district. i don't think that's what people expected. that's not what the special prosecutor statute really was going to be all about. >> you can close it out. >> michael cohen didn't want to comment on the russia collusion thing he did say he suspected the investigation that mueller was doing, and he wouldn't comment on that russian meeting at the trump tower. so, look, we don't know what's going to happen. i hope nothing bad happened. i don't want to think our president committed any crime. but let's get to the bottom of it and end it! >> laura: ok, so we went from russia collusion, the election tampering to a stripper/porn star who is cashing in on her 15 minutes of fame and michael cohen and some check someone wrote it cover -- i mean -- it's

-- a again, starting off started really nefarious with russian colpollution and now we're here and a lot of money -- collusion and now we're here and a lot of money and time has been spent. all right, guys -- >> you're investigating trump. >> laura: they're investigating one man. road kill or -- the carnage on the -- you know, the side of the street are people like cohen which c is a sad thing. guys, it's great to speak with both of you. >> follow the evidence where it leads. >> laura: it's a new low to the left. horrific holocaust insult getting lobbed at ben shapiro. ben joins us to respond next.

>> laura: a violent attack against conservative commentator and writer ben shapiro tweeting, quote, ben shapiro is the jew

that helps other jews out of the train." she now deleted the tweet in a follow-up, he tweeted, "i deleted it because a mob on the right -- of a the right wing babies who were flooding my mentions and it was frankly pretty annoying as were the dm death threats." joining us now to respond is the daily wire's ben shapiro. ben, we're always talking to when the left is unhinged and you have a special way of unhinging them, but this was really -- i mean, i keep saying a new low but this really is a new low. i've never heard of this person before, but i guess he's kind of big in the tech world. where are we here? >> i've been called worse by better. that's the way things go these days. he said he worked over at fox. it turns out he wasn't a co-founder of vox.

if it was vox, vox isn't sending their best. >> we have an individual that works for this tech site saying something who was san observant -- who is an observant jew is putting other jews on the train meaning the trump train and can't ever look passed that. i think he's jewish as well but coming from him who i believe is jewish, is that -- have any special significance to you? is it a self-clothing deal? what is -- self-loathing deal? what is it? >> the way the left works these days, anyone who disagrees with them is a nazi. it's's not a giant surprise. i really find is it a sur-- i really find it a surprise that they do that. >> laura: ben, others on the left haveth gone from their never-trump mania to just, you know, completely out of touch with the reality of politics

today. one of o them is a -- i guess a blogger for "the washington post" who is on television quite a bit. her name is jennifer reuben. let's watch. >> huckaby has no right to live a life of no fuss, no mush after inciting against the press. these people should be made uncomfortable. i think that's a life sentence frankly. >> laura: you should be made uncomfortable for life, to be a life sentence. do you notice the words that the left and the never-trump -- i don't know republican or bush -- you know, bush bird -- you i've no idea how you describe her, because there's literally no constituency except for bill crystal for what she says, but they've now used this criminal imagery. trump is jailing babies. they're criminalizing parenthood with the separation of families. the concentration camps, all the -- you know, the detention centers or concentration camps.

it's all -- it's beyond descriptive. it's descriptive in the criminal over the top purposefully outrageous manner. what of that now, coming from, you know, i guess a former republican? >> yeah, i mean, she's obviously engaged in the endorsement of trump tactics. this is the desperation to which the left and some people formally of the right have been driven. jen reuben endorsed mitt romney and pushed hard for mitt romneya a few days ago, she was suggesting roe v wade needs to be overturned. now she's suggesting any judge appointed by president trump shouldn't t overturn roe v wade. a lot of people reversed principles theyhe supposedly one held specifically because they don't like donald trump. i find that puzzling. when you look at jen reuben saying stuff that sarah huckaby sanders doesn't have a right to be comfortable in the united states. she's got the right to basically not be mobbed when she goes out to t a gas station or to eat

dinner remember bake the cake to religious bakers are saying it's a wonderful thing when a restaurant owner decides to deny service to someone based political affinity. people on the left have gone further than that. they're not talking about restaurant owners not wanting trump employees in their establishment but they're talking about how it's ok for mobs to drive people out of establishments. that's what happened to christian nielsen. the level of insanity to which the left evolves every day is a testament to how much president trump is in their heads and testament to how their utopian idealism over president obama has further collapsed. >> laura: the farther left they go, the higher his numbers seem go. they don't see the correlation. perhaps they'll be -- saner minds will prevail. happy independence day, bent thank you for being here tonight -- ben. thank you for being here tonight. a wild story out of colorado to bring you tonight. tens of thousands of acres burning 98 case of arson.. the shocking revelation of who was blind it next. behind it.

♪ >> laura: now, this is a truly insane story out of colorado. an illegal immigrant has been arrested for arson after authorities revealed that he was behind starting a forest fire that has now destroyed about

53,000 precious acres of land. jeffrey jorgenson whose nationality was danish according to the "denver post" was nabbed by the police department and will be handed over to ice. don't they want to abolish ice? maybe they -- and, of course that agency assisted in tracking him down as well. yeah, they're largely responsible for bringing this man to justice, going back to what we said on "the angle." to discuss, we're joined by colorado state senator larry corroder who -- crowder who represents the county. it's great to see you in a very difficult situation for you in colorado. >> it is. you know, right now, we've had a confirmed house loss of 104. they're just letting people go into their property to evaluate and it's just a small percentage of the ache grand jury. we don't know exactly what the

total loss will be at this point in time but it's been confirmed 104 houses have been totally burnt. i've seen pictures of the. >> laura:ur it's a heartbreak. i don't mean to interrupt you but we have limited time. >> i understand. >> laura: it's horrific! it's horrific! >> it is. >> laura: it's a loss of property, of wildlife, of habitat. but we find out -- >> without a doubt, plus -- >> laura:: senator, we find out an illegal immigrant has been charged with this. this after we've had a weekend of protests to abolish ice which is largely responsible for nabbing him and getting him into custody. your reaction to that aspect of this horrific story? >> you know, right now we've had a stage 2 under fema. no outside fires, so whether or not it was intentional or whether it was an accident, it's still a situation where it

shouldn't have been outside fires exposed. it is horrific and currently, we reported a 5% containment and the biggest thing with that is our winds have died down considerably today. but i think that -- >> laura: yeah, well, here's the problem, he shouldn't have been in the country. i know you're trying to dance around that. >> no i'm not dancing around it. no. >>'m laura: he shouldn't have been in the country, senator. he shouldn't have been here! period. >> that's correct, but if you look at his facebook page, the anarchy that he has professed over a period of time shows you that basically -- yeah, you know, i would like to see this individual deported right away! >> laura: no, well, there are a lot of people who believe that ice should be abolished and the democrat party, major figures who are going to run for president, kirsten gillbrand want ice abolished. they found this guy, nabbed him at least and want to get him in

custody out and country, -- and out of the country we hope. >> the federal government is responsible for our borders, so ice shouldn't be abolished. ice is a legal procedure that we go through. so i -- you know, i -- i -- i -- i thought it was comical people want to do away with ice. you know, it's about protecting this country. that's what it's about. >> laura: yeah, well 37% of your state is now immigrant population. a very large illegal immigrant population in your state. people think it's all great to have all of these ilgrille immigrants. well, sometimes we see -- illegal immigrants. well, sometimes we see what happens. thank you so much.u our prayers are with you and all thee citizensou of colorado. we'll be right back.

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