of my book on amazon. thanks for being with us tonight. we hope you have a great 4th of july. laura ingraham is next. >> laura: good evening from washington and welcome to this special edition of the ingraham angle. the founder of the walk away movement is here to tell us why former liberals are leaving the left behind and as the next generation in this country actually proud to be americans. we'll show you some of the shocking responses when raymond arroyo joins us plus tv legend suzanne somers joins us. don't miss that. but first the casual smearing.

a decision he will reveal in less thanou a week. in the top five of most court watchers were f a former notre dame professor amy coney barrett. she found herself on the receiving end of the media fire. >> she got into a well publicized conversation about being a religious catholic with senator diane feinstein. her name is amy coney barrett. >> we have an understanding in opposition to roe. amy barnett is -- she went to notre dame. she is very catholic. >> and is a member of the small religious group.

that swears a loyalty oath, held accountable. >> laura: sounds somnus. -- so ominous. als.

joining us now to discuss, bill donohue, president of the catholic league. wall street journalist journalist kimberley strassel. let's start with you, i am watching this play out about amy coney barrett, and i'm thinking to myself, the left is really at desperation point. devcon won for them on the desperation scale. they won't be able to start trump's nice, neat from being on the record, they take these glancing blows about her faith and now a days -- oh, she's a member of a cult. why is she unqualified to sit in the supreme court? >> i would first look at her record. she's only been an appellate court judge for five months. before that, she was a law professor. there is no more people -- people know more in the ivory tower them are professors. her background is then, her record is thin. that is the first thing. that is what concerns me more than her religion. her religious beliefs are fair game. if she happened to be a muslim,

you'd want to know whether she supported jihad. an orthodox jew, you won't want to know whether she believes in sucking up blood during circumcision. >> laura: she's explicitly said -- kimberly, get in on this, she's explicitly said that religious belief should not be permitted to have to align with court cases. she's explicitly addressed this case.my question but that is not good enough for the left in this case because i think she's because such a strong candidate if not all member people claiming that barack obama didn't have enough experience to become commander in chief of the world's largest army but that's put that aside. kimberly? >> none of those questions that were just posed in fact are relevant to her candidacy at her fitness for sitting on the supreme court. we should care about what their positions of the law are. you know, laura, it doesn't

matter, though, who is this candidate is going to be. that list contains some of the most brilliant jurists in the country. they are thoughtful, qualified, and wise. precisely because of that, people who do not like donald trump, who are very worried about what this new pick will do to their shift of the court, are not going to be talking about the constitution or separation of powers, or judicial philosophy. they are going to make this into a smear. it's going to be their best and only shot to try to stop someone because they can't do it on the basis of arguing they are not qualified. >> laura: bill donohue, the people of praise, this group of catholics who support each other, i guess they are a couple thousand across the country, is important to her as a mother and wife, something she's been a member of for some time, since her days at notre dame. that specifically is being used to smear her as essentially a cultist. your reaction?

>> i think i know what a cult is a mess is not a cult. it's a charismatic renewal group, which is a family oriented catholic organization, and the pope was hardly considered a man of the right, welcome to them just last year,. let's remember this statement by senator feinstein. she said the dog my screams loudly in you. now that his nativism. that is a throwback to the 19th century. that is coming awfully close to establishing a religious sect. then we have senator durbin, by the way, i wrote to both durbin and feinstein last september, asking them a series of questions about amy coney barrett because they were out of line. we had durbin saying, i want to know what it means to be an orthodox catholic. he said he went to school for 19 years in a catholic school and i guess he still didn't learn what the term orthodox means. i tried to help them out. it means someone who accepts the catholic church. that's about it. this smacks of an animus against

someone -- i don't care whether you are catholic, jewish, muslim, you want to ask people some questions about your personal convictions, you have every right to do that. but she has said so, in 1998, that if your caught is a catholic dealing with -- you are stuck between the church and capital punishment and the legal precedent, then maybe you should opt out. she's been very, very clear that the personal convictions should not determine judicial output. >> laura: she made the comment about how you are not required to align, you can't rely court dealings with the faith that you practice. again, she's been extremely honest about that reviewers want to eat that caught my eye. as from our friends at the center for american progress. "as a judge, she decided against an african-american worker in terms of a company's supper all but equal act. now she is up for a seat on our

nation's hyatt court." one problem with that, vinoo prayed she wasn't on the seventh circuit were inhat case was heard. obviously she wasn't on the three-judge panel when that case was heard. for this is how slipshod the criticism of barrett is. you know what i think they are bugged by? i think the people on the left are blocked by the fact that she has seven kids. i'm sorry, i think that if i met weird, i know bill agrees with me. i think they think people with a lot of kids are weird. i think they think they are weird. i think that is actually -- that bothers them. go ahead. >> that tweet has been debunked. that's been pretty clear. the issue really, though, is her experience. >> laura: do you criticize obama when he ran for president after, like, a breath in the u.s. senate? >> is a different issue. >> laura: it's about experience. the highest position in government. >> being on the supreme court is

a different issue than running for senator or president. as we know, there's been people -- we are talking about someone, it's a lifetime appointment. appointment. >> laura: justice thomas is on the d.c. circuit for not a very long. lack of time. eeoc commissioner, education department, he's turned out to be -- you might not like his judicial philosophy, but even harbert had to admit that his jurisprudence and writing and decisions have been incredibly impressive. he's been a force for good. >> every one of the sitting justices, including neil gorsuch, who was criticized a lot, had tremendous experience, either as a judge or something else. she was a law professor for most of her life. >> laura: now law professors need not apply. first, catholics need not apply. >> that is my biggest issue with her. >> laura: liberals organs the ivory tower. >> i'm not a liberal.

>> can i dare to suggest that this really isn't even about religion? this is the convenient way that they are going to attack barrett because they can't attack her on the law. because there is a desperation here. >> there's not much to attacker on the loft. >> no, they know, unlike justice gorsuch when he was appointed, he did not change the direction of the courts. this is step up time. if one of president trump's frontrunners, especially if they have a good record, is seated on the court, it will change the direction of it for generations. they will pull out whenever they can, this just happens to be the most convenient way to go against barrett. >> laura: bill, one more word end. in the end, though, i feel a very strong anti-catholic bias running through all of this. you've seen it come up before. i think that it's running through this. kimberly is right. they want to mix all these people but i think that her catholicism, the fact that she takes it seriously, it holds up

a mirror to a lot of what is going on in the culture today and they don't like that. >> i agree with you and kimberly. let me be explicit. the two people i was most concerned about, durbin and feinstein, when roberts was put up about 13 years ago, guess who question his catholicism? durbin and feinstein. durbin will say i went to catholic school. by the way, feinstein went to catholic school even though she's a jewish gal. i'm not saying they are bigots. i am saying there is something there which is unseemly. they exercise it against others. >> laura: hold on, thank you, all, fantastic segment. is is not just a me barrett's comment, or religiosity, seems e mainstream press. the "los angeles times" wrote a piece titled, "judge kony baird, potential supreme court nominee has defended overturning presidents." a lot of people have pointed

out, so far as every justice who sat down on the supreme court. let's bring in fox news senior and traditional analyst, judge start again. the fact that she is the only woman on the list and that might be harder for them to criticize down the road so they want to deal with that now or what is it? >> you and i both know that anti-catholicism is the last acceptable prejudice. and apparently acceptable in the democratic party so, that is part of it but what just raised about her willingness to upset starry -- decides us -- law that has been standing for a while. this is the route of human progress when judges have the courage to say a given case -- the separate but equal of the

races was wrong when it was decided and wrong when applied and wrong today. that is chief justice earles warren when it had been thrown out and found in applicable in the school systems in the united states of american. the fact that she shows an open mind should appear -- appeal to the very people that are attacking her. >> laura: i want to watch this and show with you.tc >> i'm generally aware that the southern poverty law center fights discrimination and that they do classify some groups as hate groups. >> they track hate groups. and you spoke at an event sponsored by one of those hate

groups. and i question your judgment. the root word of judgment is judge. >> if it were truly a hate group right now it has a brief on the supreme court.ou i gather that the southern poverty law center -- >> laura: lines defending free. in court a lot. i thought it was hilarious looking back to see al franken saying i don't like your judgment. they are smearing people left and right and tucker has done a great job on how politically bias they are against conservatives. y >> they've smeared you and me

and bill donahue and holy mother church. they will smear any entity if those first principles are not theirs. i don't think judge barrett should beware east -- -- >> laura: is it harder for miles an hour cows ski orr collins to oppose her? >> you know it's hard for me to understand why certain people are wedded to abortion. if you're democrat it's in your dna. it's popular because i'm hoping

that they admire her and her courage more than they want to attack her on the abortion. but if this is an issue on abortion she is probably going to have to address this. how she feels -- to address something that she knows she might have to address when she is on the court. >> laura: they are going to go around and around on that. thank youea so much and by the u the walk away movement maybe you've heard about it.t. walking away from liberalism. now the left is pulling out all of the stops. the campaign founder joins us with his response. next.

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♪ >> laura: there is a burgeoning new on-line movement walk away. as the left gets further and further away from something called reality. but how serious is this campaign? it's a figment of pro trump social reading writing --

joining us now to respond is founder of the movement brandon. how are you? >> i'm well. how are you? >> laura: i'm going to play defilade vacate.on gay, hair dress orr wanna-be actor. are you punking us all. is ashton kutcher going to come out? >> it's 100% not a punk thing. as amp matter of fact i welcome anyone to go to my face book page where i'm crying because hillary clinton didn't get elected. this is reveal. >> laura: what is it about the left that has made you walk away? >> i created c that video a few months ago.

and my biggest concern was the nasty rhetoric, the intolerance, the name calling, the judgment. that was just two months ago and since this video came out and we've already seen a greater shift. now i'm worried about violence. it's already changed in just two months from what my concerns were two months ago. now i'm worried that we might be on the brink of a violent episode. >> laura: we've had the election of alexandria ocasio-cortez in new york. she beats in the primary the number four guy in the house of representative joe crowley out of nowhere and she is a vowed socialist. the committee describes her in this moment. let's watch. >> the fourth most powerful

democrat was knocked out by a young woman alexandria ocasio-cortez. 28 years old. never ran for office before. she represents the future of our party. she ran a spirited campaign. >> laura: future of our party. she obviously is very young. she thinks basically everything should be free. free college. everyone is guaranteed dignified healthw care. free, free, free, free apparently -- abolish ice. it's wild out there. >> i think what they don't understand is that their party has no future. it's over and that is exactly what this campaign that i've started the walk away campaign is proving people are leaving the left by tens of thousands. my group is growing. it's happening on face book and

people are leaving testimonials. that are either through video or written word where people are talking about how the left has become intolerable to them. they don't even reps -- recognize their party any more. we hate trump and we love illegal immigrants and that is -- what else is there. >> laura: why were you a democrat before? >> because i'm gay. >> laura: i have a lot of gay friends that are not democrats and people think they are bizarre. but they get a lot of crap from their pals. >> i used to be one of those people. but i think that if you're a minority in america. aa black person, hispanic, gay.

there is an assumption that you're not wanted or welcomed on the right and that you will be protected and cared for if you go to the left. butmo we've seen that is not tr. they take us for granted and beyond taking us for granted for gay people have used our fears and our traumas trying to keepp us in this constant state of feeling afraid or that the trump administration is out to hurt us. that upsets me. i want all people to know you've choice. you don't have to vote democrat just because you're a gay person. if you're a minority you've choice and that is what this campaign is b. >> laura: we appreciate you joining us and we welcome all people to the conservative movement. whether or not the walk away campaign becomes a political

force we'll see. but the democratic party has been embracing more and more ideas outside the mainstream. now from a 28-year-old social list from new york and bernie sanders and calling for harassment of officials. and of course i was talking about maxine waters. we've got mack even. we've got bernie and now alexandria. thisxa is a wild moment but i think more people many more people are seeing just how far off the rails the democrats are going. trumping freaking them out because he is doing such a nice job.

>> brandon nailed it. the rhetoric ist turning people off. if someone says something stupid they've fallen off their rocker. well maxine has never been on her rocker and this is why she has gone over the clip with some of the things she is saying and that is what is causing people like brandon and others to walk away. b look. you've heard me say this before. the american people are not stupid. they are not wedded to a particular party. they lookth at the facts and the fact is that the democrats have no message. they have no leadership. and people that are informed like brandon are saying they are walking away from this. >> laura: i've been dying to share something with you. thisan is an exchange between chuck dodd and alexandria ocasio-cortezas again about what socialism means to her.

>> what is your definition of democratic socialist. >> for me and there is so much focus on this endorsement. an important part of my strategy in winning was building a broad based -- coalition of people. >> laura: we should get dignified health care. everyone iss entitled to xyz. she was trying to buy time. god bless her. but i don't think she knows what she means. maybe there is a new hashtag movement saying we're not seeing this any more. >> remember, there are 435 congressional districts. she structured a s message to appeal to the people in her

district about free, free, free. and then when asked what socialism means she cannot give an answer in terms of something that is well thought out. i don't make a big deal out of the fact that she got elected. maybe the people want us to hear the message about a lot of free stuff. but that is not what i'm hearing from the rest of thetr country. they are rejecting socialism. even though bernie sanders got a raw deal people are not buying his message of democratic socialism. the american people like the thingsri that we're seeing from this president s and they are supporting the results. not the perception that people like maxine waters is trying to create. >> laura: there was an ice bust in oakland i think it was yesterday of this human

trafficking ring that young children were being trafficked. it was unbelievable. they just saw ice vehicles. all of these millennials showed up saying ice is not welcomed. well this turns out this is a human trafficking operation that icehu shut down. you just put the facts out there. they do not know what they are saying and on the immigration issue, herman, the polling i knew it was going to be in the republican favor. this is today. most important issue to you in deciding how to vote for a president. immigration is 27%. economy is 23%. health care and immigration is number two for democrats. number one for republicans because the economy is doing so well. this is backfiring on the democrats big time.

>> i definitely believe it is backfiring and kelley an conway summed it up the best. people who want to eliminate ice is based on ignorance and impractical caught. they don't know what ice does. >> laura: that is real hashtag thinking, herman and they struggle and then they are like i hate trump. that is all they have. herman, we're out of time. but have a wonderful independence day. >> god bless america. thank you, laura. >> laura: how few adults are proud to be american. seen and unseen with raymond arroyo next.

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i am robert gray. now back to "the ingraham angle." >> laura: it's time now for our "seen and unseen" segment were we expose what's behind the big cultural stories of the day. ♪ first up, alarming new reports about exposi -- truly feel about being american. for more we're joined now by fox

news contributor raymond arroyo. we're a patriotic people. >> not if you talk to gallup. we've w fallen in our sense of patriotism. gallop asked are you proud to be american? it went from 70% to 47% saying they are extremely proud to be an american. >> laura: love it or leave it. >> campus reform sent a camera crew to ask them if they were proud to l be american and heres whatat they discovered. >> doo you consider yourself proud to be an american. >> that is a tough question. >> not the america that we have rightme now. i'm not proud. >> are you proud to be an american? >> definitelye not. >> no. i'm not proud of america. >> we needar to stop thinking tt we're thehe best nation on earth because thatau is egotistical ad

not accurate. >> this is systematic of a culture. >> laura: it's nyu. >> our mystery is bad. the men and woman who made this country are evil and it's cast a pall. this is cultural fall out. when you take statues down this is what get. >> laura: generations of public schooling where we don't learn about the founding, the greatness of our founders. >> so how do we turn it back? i think you find family events that reinforce the sense of patriotism. the world war ii memphis in new orleans incredible. and then play something like 1776. >> laura: love it.

>> to the tenuous nature this experiment -- n and it's made my boys and girls -- who's ben franklin. >> laura: you know what the kids at nyu need to do? spend some time at the va or -- arlington. you can criticize trump. but come on. that makes my blood boil. and yesterday another trump official was confronted by a protestor. this time it was e. p.a. official scott pruitt. >> she was reading off a script.

you should resign. >> laura: wasn't she on msnbc. >> she was. she had a t-shirt on. it said your founding fathers owned slaves. now this 'em bodies the self-hatred of america. my o ancestors were in spain and italy. however these are our founding fathers and in a time when we're told not to judge anybody. we should not judge people. i think judging the founding fathers by their sins and slavery was a dark sin to judge them -- >> laura: just on that. they never did anything else. >> you look at people and take them for good and bad and you learn from their errors and you take the good and try to perpetuate that and we're bigger

than our sins. >> i like how that woman confronting peru i hadab was holding the baby and the note cards. she could not remember those profound moments where her baby wanted cleann' water. take the cameras away. it's all about social media. happy 4th of july. stay tuned for our interview with suzanne somers. stay tuned.

-- pushing the consideration of race in college admissions. -- but the news is already sparking a serious blow back on the left. joining us now to debate is horace cooper -- along with tv

and radio talk show host rolanda -- what is your thought because for the longest time i think americans were like we've got to get the best, the brightest without regard to skin color, gender, ethnicity because we're all people and everyone deserves a chance so why would the left be against this given that we're all equal and not everyone can get into harvard obviously but harvard and other schools they do lower standards according to the data for certain groups over other groups. asians and a lot of people say get discriminated again and other groups can get in more easily. why is that more right? >> it's a sad day in america when you don't have support for diversity.ha and quite honestly in my opinion

it's the thing that makes this nation so beautiful. i agree with some of those argue that this is another political attack trying to rally up the racial resistant movement and that this is also part of any knocking down anything that is obama and knocking down anything that involves diversity. we would not have these laws and policies ines place if we didn't have an issue with there being a lack of -- >> i'm not saying that at all but i'm saying that there needs to be a fairness. a diversity. >> laura: and how well you did in a classes -- >> absolutely. but you and i are not naive enough to thinknk that there has not been an opportunity always for blacks and minorities.

>> laura: those days are over. i would take issue with what low land do said the most important ideal is diversity. the most important ideal is liberty and freedom. but it is true -- diversity is important to a lot of americans and this looks like a slap in the face of 8 years of obama. >> it was always over reach. supreme court has never said affirmative action for affirmative action sake was a last resort. what these guidance letters did was thete opposite. now it implies we won't have scientists and doctors or any great people. i would say that is racist if you believe there will never be

scientist or great people without extra help from the government. >> laura: do you have issues with what harvard is doing with the asian students. asian students are being discriminated against because they kill it in the test scores. theyey get the best test scores. >> i think it's a heck of an assumption that children of color students of color don't score highly as well. >> you wouldn't need affirmative action then. >> that is my point. it doesn't matter if you're black or white. >> whyhy should race be coming o the floor at all? >> let's be for real. there has been a lot of discrimination. and it's not always about the color of one's skin. let's look across the board economically as well. african-american families make

less than a $1,000. -- $5,000. >> laura: using race as a factor and decision making i believe is racist because you're using a racial characteristic as a classification. i want to have you both on radio because this is such a hot topic. thank you so much. by the way me too movement is wreakingng havoc in hollywood. suzanne somers is going to talk about it next.

>> laura: there are few people who know hollywood and how to build a brand better than suzanne somers. he career has spanned decades. her insight and experience are more valuable than ever. ray beyond arroyo and i recently sat down with susanne about what is next for hollywood and how things have changed since she began her legendary career at just 19 years old. we were talking about like what we miss about certain eras of television the other day and talking about carson of course. johnny and we were saying hmmm -- all of the people that

crossed his path. who he goofed with on stage and then i didn't realize that he discovered you. >> he didal. >> laura: how did i not know this? >> they were looking for a girl a small town girl who had no idea what she looked like and didn't know who she was and i thought that is me. i got together the $25 and flew to los angeles. great.ce is because i didn't know there was a way to do this with agents. -- and i come up to nbc and why are youto here? i'm here for the domantas dell wears show. and i read and very nice and they will give you a call back.

and they said we'll give you a call back and i said what is that? that they will call you back. >> i'm sitting there by myself like a good catholic girl. and i am sitting there and i see johnny j carson is coming and walking over towards me. and he said hey little lady what are you doing here? and i said i have a call back. because now i have lingo, right. so this is wednesday. i handed him my book of poetry and one credit. 1973. on they? back i had my one cred. so it was wednesday -- and friday night i made my debut on

television. charged a dr. i -- dress i could not afford. and i heard johnny carson saying everyone was wondering who the mysterious blonde was in american graffiti. and my book of poetry became a best seller. >> he sees you. they are casting the show "three's company" but he has already cast two actresses. >> and they didn't test well and in the meeting -- word goes i've got the girl. right place, right time. the stars lined up for me. what an interesting ride it's been.

>> laura: and then the show is such a huge success. you're thece it girl. the cover girl. number one show in the country. very racy. back then -- j my parents wouldt let me watch it. so compared to today -- and television today -- you were positively prudish. >> absolutely. chrissy snow was kissed one.er her whole thing was morale outrage at every thing. >> laura: it's just wild because it was -- if you're a certain age you were not supposed to watch that show. what is your thought today about the quality of entertainment?

we kind of joke. there is a lot of repetition. they are doing -- everything is being done over. willie wonka general. >> i have anil idea. i'm so sorry john is gone. that would be a wonderful reboot. he was magic. >> and months before we died -- after i was fired it became you are either with us and against us or with her and against us. thewe men were being paid 10 and 15 times more than me and i'm on the number one show at that time so i still feel right for asking for it but he never talked to me again. none of the cast or crew -- and i think that was what they were

fed is that they are trying to ruin our show. a m month before john died i'm having my hair shampooed and i said thank you can you take a message and it was john ritter. i pick up the phone and he said look, babe i forgive you which took me a moment. and i put on my big girl pants. thanks. he wanted me to appear in a dream sequence in a show in a nightmare he is having. i said you know there is a hunger for us to reunite. i don't think this is -- >> john: would it had happened had he lived? >> weiv decided to look for a project together and a month later he died. >> laura: what about the me too movement. a good thing?

a little too political? >> well this probably won't be real popular but i think -- i totally understand the weinstein and bill cosby -- that is of course -- but morgan freeman -- a flirt. i knows him really well and he sees you and hend will like your dress and your hair and a lot of things and i hope that the dance doesn't stop. it's seduction. it's flirting. all of those things are really fun so i hope there is a way we can find a nice medium with that. >> laura: you're an incredible successful business woman. >> had to. when i was in my broadway show i said i'm a schmoo. it'swn a clown bouncy face.

any time there is anything negative i'm old enough to say what is the lesson. using negatives like judo. -- exactly and my husband and i have this great partnership and he does what he does and i do what i do. >> what is your secret to a 40 year marriage. happy one. >> 50 years together. we compliment each other. gratitude and i talk about how grateful i am for the life that i have with him and love and family and all of that. >> laura: fantastic. we're just such huge fans. thank you for being with us. >> laura: and we will be right back with a special 4th of message from our 40th president.

>> laura: as we get ready to celebrate july 4th it's a great opportunity to reflect on our freedom so we'll end tonight on some enduring words. >> president george washington warned americans that they had l new responsibility. he said the preservation of the sacred fire of liberty and the destiny of the republican model of government are justly considered perhaps as deeply as finally staked on the experiment entrusted toic the hands of the american people. you may not think of ourselves or our dempsy as an extremer. but look o around the world. people look to americas the cradledo of freedom. the rule under god are reality.

>> laura: don't forget to tell us how we're doing on twitter. shannon bream and the fox nightr team are up next. good night from washington. hing. ♪ >> shannon: this is a fox news alert. he is still in the decision-making process and it's already getting ugly. we are going deep inside the battle over the supreme court nominee to replace retiring justice anthony kennedy. plus, another deadline on the calendar. this time perform a national security advisor michael flynn to appear in court. the judge wants answers as to why he has not been sentenced following his guilty plea. later, is the future of the democratic party socialism? dnc chair tom perez it says it might be after self-proclaimed socialist ousted a longtime democratic congressman and as her primary race. hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i am shannon bream in washington. the president saying today that you will spend the first part of the we we we