summits, that fact was evident to everyone. including, to the soviets themselves. reagan's prediction was coming true. as he if not others had always known it h would. ♪ >> good evening, welcome to a special edition of "tucker carlson tonight." again and again on this program, we have clashed with our very own liberal sherpa. she's kathy aru. kathy is willing to defend any new fad on the left, whether hiding in closets or giving consent before you change your baby's diaper. tonight we'll revisit the enlightening engagements with the liberal sherpa. one of the most memorable came when purdue university published a guide to avoid mailman and

mankind. kathy strongly agreed. i got to say, there is an irony here. your lecturing us about sexism while you are sitting right now in manhattan. >> manhattan. we need to rename the city then. >> yeah. >> the big apple would be less offensive. i'm sitting in the big apple, not manhattan. >> tucker: why should the post office deliver mail? >> it's m-a-i-l. if it's m-a-l-e. >> tucker: it's about being gender inclusive. male is offensive. >> well, no, i don't think they are including that. they are saying that society has changed, we don't want to be offensive in our language. they are trying to be nonsexist and non-biased, take the word

"man" out, it would be synthetic. instead of humanity, you should say people. >> tucker: but mailman. >> it's m-a-i-l. >> tucker: you can change a vowel, but it sounds the same, it has that dreaded word in a sends people sha sleeking for tr safe spaces. >> man is assaulted with adults as opposed to humanity or few mans. they are trying to avoid the word man. if we can eliminate that word, things would be much better. >> tucker: what if you live in manchester, vermont. >> they might have to change the name of the university if they

agree with purdue university. they updated that writing guide to take out these words that are offending certain groups of people. >> tucker: just to make sure i understand the rule, if something offends somebody, even if you never met that person personally, you have to change it. doesn't that mean that a group of super unhappy people get to control what the rest of us say and think? >> if it's something offending a small group, the group is going to get larger, times are changing. our language is dynamic. webster keeps adding new words. our language needs to change. a term that used to be non-offensive, like man-made and mailman, need to be changed. >> tucker: i guess that. who gets to side what changes and what does be in the i have decided the most offensive language is college professor.

that connotes dumbness and misuse of power and tenure and mediocrity. nobody can use that word in my presence, could that fly? could i pull it off? >> if you have a writing guide and you put that out there. people agree with you, then, yeah, maybe. maybe that would fly. but purdue university did find a group that agreed with them. the university backed them up and there you have it. they have a writing guide. it's going to teach us how to not offend. >> tucker: do you think they have the guts? it's one thing to bully the little rich kids that go to your school, what do they know. >> this is the heart of america. >> tucker: of course. but if you are paying like 60 grand or whatever it is for like the fake diploma you get and you are not working, you have privilege by definition, no matter who's paying for it. do you think they would have the guts to go to gold-man-saks and

say change your name or else? >> they probably wouldn't shop there, they probably wouldn't shop there. >> tucker: shopping at goldman sachs, the bank. >> we need to change it. like woman has the word "man" in there, so just call us a person. >> tucker: so gold-person-sachs? >> i'm less offended. >> tucker: since the rule is if you spell -- i know, this is angels on the head of a pin. if you spelled it m-a-n-n. would you get passed that? >> the professions, usually we are male dominated and they have changed. so, no, saying mailman and spelling it differently, doesn't

apply. this applies for men and women or persons. all people. no man is needed. >> tucker: isn't there a man in the word woman? >> call me a person, i would be less offended. no need for woman. >> tucker: the revolution always heats itself, as we often put it. college exams are stressful. we counted on students to deal with that stress. at the university of utah, they have offered something else. they have a cry closet. so at first glance it seems confusing. college is the least stressful place. >> least stressful? >> sure, you go to class two hours a week and get drunk the

rest of the time? >> it's very stressful. they are learning, they are the future. these are citizens of tomorrow. and they are learning as much as they can. they are stressed as they can be. they need this bioenergyic way to get out their stress. they need a good cry. a cry closet to prepare to take the exams from everything they learned in the classes. >> tucker: we don't have time to define bioenergyic. does this suggest something about their health? if you are so stressed at taking a dumb test as a dumb school, aren't you on the edge of a breakdown? >> don't we all need a good old fashioned cry? it's just about crying. ten minutes of crying. everyone needs a stress ball. many people own stress balls. this is an interpretation of a giant stress ball. >> tucker: let's say we had a

war, i don't know, pick a country, china. challenge us where we had to mobilize a large of americans to defend the homeland. but everyone is crying. would anybody be left to fight the war? can you really defend a country if you are encouraging kids to cry about final exams? >> this is about psychological help. if everyone take as moment aside to just center themselves, ground themselves, have a cry, maybe for two, three minutes, and then go fight that war, i'm sure the war would be won with people in a great state of mind. >> tucker: could you take a break between battles to cry? >> the break would have to be done before the battle. but they would be in the right mindset that they would win that battle. that's what this whole closet is about. it's about getting that right state of mind. >> tucker: would you want to use a closet others have cried in? >> i don't think i would have a problem with it.

sounds cozy. google has done this. they have created ping-pong tables where people can let off steam. >> tucker: if a cry closet is called for, how about a petting disco, a bunny stroking station. >> if people are comfortable and work better after being centered and calmer, then why not, bring the bunnies in. >> tucker: let me ask you a macro point. i thought the idea was to get people to come out of the closet. now you are saying people go back in the closet. >> go in for ten minutes, get that cry so you can come out confidently and feel good. you might want to go into that cry closet right before a show and have a great show afterwards. >> tucker: this is like television, you don't want to be too honest. >> i am honest with you.

>> tucker: if you knew a man, i could date that man, he says i'm sorry, i got to cry in a closet while squeezing a stuffed animal. >> i'm going to center myself so i can be a stronger, better person for you, yeah, i would love that person. i think that's great. it's healthy. who doesn't want to be with a healthy person. >> tucker: part of you would look on and say you weepy little freak, stop crying. >> what a strong person who understands themselves or he-self or whatever pronoun. >> tucker: i don't believe you for a second. i think you want to think that, this is wholesome, consistent with my ideology. on a gut level you would say stop wimperring. >> every place has a cry closet, it can be the bathroom at some

means. everyone needs a cry closet. everyone needs a way to relieve stress and tension. >> tucker: up ahead, we have plenty more highlights from the liberal sherpa. we'll visit her defensively of getting consent from babies before changing their diapers. stay tuned. there's little rest for a single dad, and back pain made it hard to sleep and get up on time. then i found aleve pm. the only one to combine a safe sleep aid, plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. i'm back. aleve pm for a better am.

>> tucker: welcome back to our extremely special liberal sherpa edition of "tucker carlson tonight." a pink haired sex educator declared that parents should seek consent from babies before chaining their diapers.

otherwise, they could grow up to tolerate sexual assault. human babies can't consent to anything. they can't do anything, they are babies. cathy areu thought it was a great idea. so consent for diaper changing from babies. this raises the obvious, practical question, how would a baby give consent? >> well, the idea isn't exactly -- the baby isn't going to say yes or no, but give the baby a few moments, talk to the baby, is it okay, i'm going to change your nappy, she's australian. >> tucker: you wouldn't say that to an american baby. >> it's teaching consent. teaching autonomy. i'm not going to touch your body if you don't want me to. like talking to a baby about anything, mommy loves you, daddy

loves you. why wouldn't the concept of talking to a people about doing something so serious, changing a diaper, be so ridiculous. >> tucker: you don't expect a baby to respond in a way that you can understand. again, how do you know what consent looks like? let's just do a little role playing. >> i'm the baby. >> tucker: and i say i'm going to make this change. and how do you express your consent or lack of consent? >> well, i well, if i start cry, something is wrong. you wouldn't want to make diaper changing that goes along with crying. you want me to be in a healthy state of mind. in the future, when it comes to those things, i would be a well adjusted adult. >> tucker: maybe the child is crying because his diaper is

dirty. >> yeah, obviously. the parent would have to be the best judge of that. if you make me cry, you ask me and i started crying, you should take the hint. >> tucker: would it be like an eye gesture. you are a mom. can you read their facial he can presses and know what they are saying? >> ericsson said, a baby expert, from 0 to 2 are the trust years. you want the baby to trust you. nothing wrong with talking to a baby and those situations, teaching a baby how to trust. this is a moment where you are teaching your baby to trust you. i don't think the baby is supposed to give consent. you are just teaching the baby to trust you. you are asking the baby to express bodily autonomy.

>> tucker: what if the child keeps saying no, like over a period of weeks, and you keep going in there, i would like to change the diaper, child refuses consent, that becomes neglect. >> teaching, talking about it during that moment. so many parents do not discuss it and the baby, they are not even used to talking about those things. so they are constantly teaching trust. it's trust issues. >> tucker: you don't discuss anything with a baby. >> you discuss everything with a baby. i'm going to put this lotion on your arm. i'm going to dress you. parents talk all day long. >> tucker: how about a polio vaccine, smallpox? >> you have to give consent. you can't give organs if you can't give consent. dead people with make decisions.

>> tucker: how do they do that? >> you don't have to give consent after you have died. people should always give consent if their body is going to be touched. >> tucker: right. so if the child says no -- the baby indicates by crying or rolling his eyes, i don't want a polio vaccine, you don't give him a polio vaccine? >> it's the idea of discussing it with the baby. the consent isn't the issue, it's the idea. >> tucker: so even if the baby says no, no doesn't really mean no is what you are saying. >> the baby can't talk during the diaper years. >> tucker: a baby's no doesn't mean no. where does the obedience part come in? is there any part where the child learns to obey what you say or is it a give or take, a colloquy with a mute person?

>> it's a conversation, talking to the baby. it's not disciplining. >> tucker: is there a point where the baby says, mom, please stop talking. >> or dad. >> tucker: go ahead and change the diaper. i don't think most dads would go for this hey, parent, stop talking. >> i don't think they can respond. i am touching your body. you should have the right to say yes or no. i'm going to teach that concept right now during the trust years. >> tucker: i like the concept that kids do what they are told. do what we tell you to do. why stop at diapers? irdiapers?our cathy areu convern

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produced a guide for gender pronounce they included x, y, z, yo. i want to walk you through these. i know soon i will be forced to participate at gun point. >> it's not forced at gun point. >> tucker: if recent history is any precedent, we are laughing now. how would i ask the following sentence. did she enjoy herself at the party? >> did zee enjoy zerself at the party. >> tucker: sound like henry kissinger. >> many universities have put out these pronoun guides.

>> tucker: i'm tracking with this now. let's try the sentence. she cooks dishes using ingredients she has grown in her yard. >> it would be zhe cooks dishes using ingredients zee has grown in zer yard. >> tucker: great job. we are going to move on now to co and cost. translate this sentence. he asked himself whether his gender pronounces were confusing. >> co asked co-self whether co gender pronounces were

confusing. >> tucker: how would i say his car broke down so he had to walk here by himself. >> zee had to walk here by zer self. >> tucker: and this is different how? >> accepted by the lgbt university. from california to georgia have accepted these and added them to their pronounce usage grammar books. >> tucker: i know members of that community never heard of this. we'll try one last one. my producer promised me this is real. it's yo. they promise this is real. >> this is real. >> tucker: yo is for he and she. ya is him or her. yoself is for himself or herself. she better leave now if she

wants to make her flight in time? >> yo better leave now if yo want to make your flight on time. yo's flight on time. pers you can choose which ever you are comfortable with. there are many pronouns. >> tucker: the purpose of language is communicate mutually agreed upon definitions. if i replace language that's dumber, less precise and embarrassing, how does it forward the purpose of language itself? >> smarter, not offensive and forward-thinking, i think, is the way we would be correctioning our language. >> tucker: you are right. identify forgotten the underlying assumption that all change is good. >> all change is good, language

does change. in 50 years, this is just going to be automatic, we are not going to think twice. the transgender community has embraced this. it's not a question of grammar. >> tucker: there is no community. can i just say, because i can't resist, if i wake up and find out i have been drafted into some community, i'm going to resist because the only community i'm a part of is my family. does anybody say i'm not part of your community? >> that's the beauty of this. you can be part of a community, you don't have to be part of a community, you can be who you want to do. you can say you don't want a pronoun. >> tucker: everything is monday torre. all change is good, everything is mandatory. those are the two rules we now live by. pronouns aren't the only thing, during prom season a high school student in utah dared to wear a

chinese-style dress despite not being chinese. that's a war crime, as you know. cathy areu came on the set to set her straight. >> tucker: does this mean chinese people are wearing neckties, which is a western invention, are they committing that? >> she's exploiting it. she is taking advantage of a culture she doesn't know much about. i don't think a chinese businessman doesn't understand western culture. she had no idea what the dress meant and didn't appreciate it. her comment was it's just an "f"-ing dress. >> tucker: so assimilations, is the process of cultural

appropriation. i come in and take parts of your culture and make them my own, i adopt your culture. now the idea is everyone stays in their own culture and hates the other culture. >> she didn't do this to assimilate. she wanted to get as much fame as she could and step right now. >> tucker: let me ask you this. when someone from dubai flies on an airplane which was invented by the wright brothers, why isn't that -- gets on the plane and has a glass of champagne and doesn't think of the contribution of these ohio brotherrer ins to flight? that's not cultural appropriation? >> they are not hurting anyone and they are not offending anyone by doing so. when she put on that dress, she hurt and offended others. >> tucker: she really hurt them.

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yoga is racist. how is that? >> according to this article, many white people who do yoga, many white people do yoga, few understand the culture, history and religion behind yoga. they are enjoying it for the physical aspects of it. they are not truly understanding yoga and what it goes back to. they need to if they want to appreciate it. if not, they are getting into this viewpoint of white supremacy. >> tucker: if yoga is racist, is hot yoga more racist or less? >> all western yoga is racist, according to this author, according to this professor. yoga practiced in india has nothing to do with the yoga practiced in the western world. >> tucker: what about pilates? >> it wasn't discussed. it's being practiced by white

people, white upper class. not maineer minorities. this is a white sport. >> tucker: that's suspect. call the police. what about taekwondo? >> she has a problem with the yoga in industrial, i think it was yoga industrial complex. that's what she called it. the yoga industrial complex. falls under that. >> tucker: if it's wrong for people in the west to practice yoga, is it wrong for the rest of the people to use the internet? >> we understand the internet. it doesn't go back to what yoga did to introduce them to yoga and their culture was intelligent. that was part of the movement, when it came to the united

states. so the internet would not. >> tucker: what about like democracy? that was invented by the greeks in the west, basis of western civilization. >> no, no, no. yoga was a way for the indians to show colonizers to show they were intelligent. >> tucker: it predates the british by quite a bit. i was interested, how many people who are into yoga in the united states do you think voted for donald trump? >> oh, well, the author didn't touch upon that. >> tucker: what's your guess. someone who is very familiar with non--trump voters, would you say maybe 1% of people who practice yoga voted for trump or is that too high? >> according to the author, many upper and middle class white women practice yoga. so many of those people voted

for trump. >> tucker: are you struck by the fact that that series of descriptors, upper middle class, white, like that's kind of the whole argument on the left. anything that has those words attached, it's bad just because, and anything that doesn't is superior to that? >> yeah, according to this article, those are the people who practice yoga and do not understand immigrants and minorities and what they are going through, perhaps have more privilege and able to experience yoga and other things that other groups cannot experience. >> tucker: last question. in a multicultural society, which we live in, i'm for the basic principle, cool things with other cultures and you should enjoy them, when did the rules change? we live in a multicultural society, but you are not allowed to enjoy things from other cultures? >> don't stop doing yoga. but if you do it, understand you

are understanding an 8th of it. understand what people went through to introduce this to from you their culture to your culture. so having appreciation, don't just take advantage, buy the yoga gear and take advantage of this. >> tucker: i suspect downward dog is less difficult if you are hating you yourself. >> i don't think they hate themselves. >> tucker: up next, the blast from the past. the time cathy areu said we shouldn't call breastfeeding natural. it could undermine feminism. that's next.

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>> tucker: well, a study last year in the journal pediatrics said it's unethical to call breastfeeding. coupling nature with motherhood can support biologically deterministic arguments about roles of men and women in the family, which is in sane. fortunately for us, cathy areu is not most people. here's how she described it. >> tucker: this is interesting, people inserting politics. why it would be controversial to call breastfeeding natural.

>> breastfeeding doesn't come natural. there is a whole industry out there. breastfeeding isn't exactly natural. it doesn't come naturally to women. what they are saying, there is a study letting people off this guilt trip. only a woman able to feed a child is inappropriate. it's unethical and inappropriate. i'm so glad women are let off the hook, finally. >> tucker: it's not unethical or inappropriate. it's the opinion of some physicians that breast milk is superior to form l.a. it's a debate that'formula.it suggestsa different role in motherhood than men, they do because they

are on the only people capable of bearing children? >> women are not the only ones who can feed the children. that's what they are trying to say. it's natural for others to feed the children. the whole burden is not on the mother. that's what they are trying to say. >> tucker: first of all, of course that's true. of course. the decision -- i don't think women are stupid. >> i interviewed a pediatrician that when a child starving for two weeks, she was not able to produce breast milk for two weeks. she refused to give the baby that formula for fear. >> tucker: that's a fair point. that's a shame when people feel like there is no alternativement perhaps there are some. that's not what's really going on here. this is gender politics intruding on the personal

decisions that parents make. it's also blurring the lines, it's suggesting, by the way, that men can breast feed, which they can't. i don't think they can, can me? >> i don't know. >> tucker: i do now, the answer is they can't. i have four children. >> what they are saying is that men can feed children. they are putting a study that saying breast milk is not the only way to go. >> tucker: can you take three steps back? >> no. >> tucker: and acknowledge, there is something awful about inserting gender politics into something as beautiful and intimate as the first days of a child's life? maybe parents can say back off. >> breastfeeding is not beautiful t causes so many headaches. it doesn't come naturally for so many women. so this study is wonderful, women can step back and say,

wow, it's okay to hand the bottle and the baby over to dad or my girlfriend or whatever the case may be. >> tucker: half of that sentence is correct. it's okay to do that. i'm wondering, final question for you, because this is giving a little bit of headache. the whole subject is so crazy. if it's not natural to breast feed, how did the species get to where it is now? why didn't we die out several millennia to go? >> we found other ways like formula to feed the babies. >> tucker: in the medieval periods, where did you get it? >> it's been going on for the last ten years. our mothers weren't exactly into breast feeds, you have the fix r feminism, you had the revolution. it's not always been the answer. >> tucker: i'm glad my kids are old enough to weigh into this stuff. a 30-year-old son refused to

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>> ♪ >> tucker: welcome back to our extremely special liberal sherpa edition of "tucker carlson tonight." michael was a 30-year-old man who lived in his parent's basement rent free for 8 years. they asked him to move out 5 times and gave him money for a new place. he refuseed to leave. they sued him. we welcome the liberal sherpa to talk about it. cathy, he is 30 years old but doesn't want to leave. should he be forced to leave? >> yes. a 3rd of 18 to 35 years old in this country live with their parents. he is actually normal.

michael loves his mom. he wants to be with his mom. what is wrong with that? he loves his parents and he is normal. he is not ready to move on. you would think his parents would welcome him there. his mom would want to be a good mom. >> tucker: you think at age 30 you are not ready to leave your mom's basement where are you ready to drive car or drink alcohol or serve in uniform? >> we don't know if he does any of those things. he is not ready to leave his mom. it's not a basement. it's a bedroom. >> tucker: sorry! i didn't mean to impugn his character. >> right. what is wrong with loving your mother. maybe she would want to live in his bedroom in his house. maybe michael will have a mansion thanks to their support. if they didn't spend money on

him and not on lawyers. >> tucker: if you love something, you get it for free. if i love a rolex watch, do i get it for free? if i really love it. >> this is a parent does a child. you are always a parent. she is always a mom. he is always a son. they should always love each other. they should not hire lawyers and go against each other in court as the mother did. >> tucker: but what i loved the watch and i need to know what time it is. okay? i love that watch. why would they call the cops on me if i take it? >> it's about responsibility. she gave birth to the child. you didn't give birth to the watch. >> tucker: that's true. >> this mother gave birth to the child. it's her responsibility. it's good for society for her to take care of this child. her child and make sure her child is ready to face the

world. >> tucker: you can't age out of this arrangement. once you are born, you have a moral and legal right to sponge off your parents forever? >> i don't think it's sponging off. michael loves his mommy and wants to be with her until he is ready. >> tucker: are you concerned about the explosion of man-children in our society? is that good for women? >> women and men, 18 to 35 are living at home with their parents. a 3rd of millennials live at home with their parents. it's make america great again. >> tucker: it's a sad, brave new world. cathy, great to see you. thank you. that's all for tonight's special liberal sherpa edition of "tucker carlson tonight."

tune in every weeknight to the show that is the sworn enemy of of lying, pomposity, smugness and group think. have the best night. see you tomorrow. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> ♪ >> sean: welcome to "hannity." for the hour we will do what the mainstream media never does. list all of the president's successes. we start with my interview with president trump in singapore. this was moments after his historic meeting with north korea leader kim jong-un. take a look. >> mr. president, great to see you. historic day. i think most people want to know what was going on in that room one-on-one. >> well, the big thing is this is now my 25th hour of being up and negotiating. we have been negotiating very hard.