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inflamed fbi empployees working to accelerate an investigation into donald trump before election day. at heart of this peter strzok who landed the russia investigation from the beginning and promised his girlfriend they could stop trump. they did their best. in september 2016, carter page wrote a letter to the director of the fbi jim comey about false leaks about him. strzok's reaction: at a minimum this letter provides us a pretext. in other words, an excuse. in another memo, four weeks before election day, strzok tells paim he's pleasing the "hurry the f up" pressure on andy mccabe to get a fisa warpt to spry on carter page. after the election they didn't discuss. he discusses any need to strike

any derogatory information they may have dpleend from confidential informants. the same people who wound up as members of the mueller investigation. no defending any of this. yet the left is. carter page is on the receiving end of all of this for years now and he joins us tonight. carter page, thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: on the time line, let's go back to the letter sent to jim comey, director of the fbi, about the likes against you. what were those likes? >> well, i sent that on sunday september 25, 2016. two days before that, on the friday september 23, there is a big defamatory article put out by a yahoo news. and, you know, as we subsequently learned from the house intelligence memos, that was part of the -- the fake news

article was actually used as part of the fisa application. so completely outrageous. >> tucker: um, carter, i'm having a little trouble with my audio. i'm pretty certain that our audience can hear you just fine. so just clarify for us, the basics here. you have not, after all of this, and you've been under surveillance, in effect, under vehicles for years now. you haven't been charged with anything. do you expect that you're going to be charged with anything? after all of this. >> tucker, there isn't anything that i could potentially be charged with. particularly after seeing john solomon's article today, it becomes, the whole, you know, using the term from that quote you had, pretext. the pretext was absolutely outrageous. ridiculous. so, you know, this is pretext

wrapped upon pretext. completely out of control. i can't even imagine what i would be charged with. >> tucker: do you know after, again, all of this, what exactly the suspected crime was. you were the subject of a fisa warpt, the federal government turning its surveillance powers on you. a big deal. we have the whole system designed to keep that from being abused. why would they want to read the e-mails and spy on ways we don't know about. what did they think you were doing? igo report 1.0, a lot of political motivations behind what was happening earlier in the presidential election campaigns. and i think what is a lot of evidence that has come out both from house intelligence committee, senate judiciary committee, how judiciary as well as others, there's a lot of

abuses going on. so, i think it's completely political. there's nothing substantive to this, whatsoever. >> tucker: presumably if there were something substantive you would be charged with a felony. this is not the behavior of a free country of an open, legislate malt government spying on its own citizens for political reasons. what has this cost you financially? >> tucker, it's like president trump said during the campaign, it's not about me, it's about us. i'm not concerned, you know, it's cost me tremendously, it's cost many people in the trump movement, you know. , the peep imwas volunteering with, tremendously, in terms of all of the -- people i was volunteering with, the legal fees, challenges it's created for their life. in some case as lot of terror threats. the bigger issue is the obstruction in terms of u.s. foreign policy. the terrible impact that this had on possibilities, in terms of russian relations.

creating a better pathway for the world president trump was talking about. i'm hoping there's going to be a lot more of this, this is just the tip of the iceberg what we have seen here. a lot more coming out, in the weeks to come. but a bigger thing is coming in with the helsinki summit. i hope that the quicker the truth comes out the more they'll be able to chart a better course for the future of our country. >> tucker: we will be at the helsinki summit, i look forward to that. carter page, thank you. chris hon is a former staffer to senator chuck schumer and joins us. there you have it, chris, i want to talk to carter page, not because we're personal friends or i have any vested interest in his story but because i'm an american, and i think the civil liberties of every american matter. the guy didn't commit a crime, life completely desteroid by the fbi and the obama

administration. you can't look at that, as an american, not feel outrage. yet the left is totally fine with what's happened to carter page. why is that? do you think? >> i don't think anybody's fine with civil liberties being violated. >> tucker: really snrngts i don't know that his has. he took the fifth for a lot of question when is he went to the closed door session with congress. >> tucker: is that a constitutional right? wait a second, to maintain the fifth, you don't have civil liberty? what law school did you go to? >> i wasn't to st. john's and i'm proud of. that the president of the united states once said if they take the fifth it means they're guilty. >> tucker: i don't care what trump said, i'm an american citizens, you have a right not to testify under the fifth amendment to the constitution, the bill of rights. you have a right not to be spied upon for political reasons. my question is, why was carter page the subject of a fisa

warrant after the fbi had looked exhaustively into his interactions with the russians. they clearly abused his civil liberties. nobody cares because he volunteered for donald trump. that's police state stuff. you should be upset about that. >> remember, the man started by providing documents to a russian spy in 2014. >> tucker: what were those documents? hold on, what documents? you just accused him -- you don't know what they are? >> oh, it is widely, it is widely known and he will admit that he gave documents to a russian spy. >> tucker: what documents? was it a pizza menu? was it the blueprints to a theroux nuclear war head this is how they start to recruit you, they ask you to provide something that is legal and they show that you will do it. this is a russian spy attempting to recruit him. that russian spy was later dieted and convicted and this came up in that.

the fbi was right to start looking into it. >> tucker: wait, wait, they were. so they already knew that the documents that you attempted to make sound sinister amounted to nothing, carter page was not spying for the russian government, he was not a mole. they knew that. they knew that. and yet, they got a fisa warrant against him already. don't you think that the u.s. government spies on its own citizens, ought to have a good reason? and that that reason shouldn't be made up by a political activist like peter strzok or his girlfriend lisa page. >> so the fact that he had been communicating with senior russian officials including members of their spy ring in russia, then goes to russia, with the permission of corey lewandowski, goes to russia in 2016 during the campaign. i think the fbi would be suspicious. i think that they should of been suspicious. d.c. so what! since you have raised this allegation, we have carter page

in the studio. i want to ask him what the documents were. and i mean, let's get specific here. you passed documents to a russian spy. did you betray your country? what were the documents? why aren't you in prison right now if that was a felony? >> tucker, this is complete spin. i was teaching a course at new york university called energy in the world in the spring semester of 2013. and i had a coffee with a diplomat from the russian consulate. and i showed him -- >> tucker: who was a spy. [laughing] >> of course. it was course materials. >> you gave him documents that he requested you to. >> tucker: chris, before you -- slow down, before you impugn his patriotism as an american shouldn't you hear what the documents were? wouldn't that to your judgment? >> public information, yes. >> tucker: the documents, that was a course description? do you think if you passed,

chris hawn, a course description for a public university course to a foreigner who you didn't know us what with a spy would you be betraying your country? >> i tend not to hang out with russian spies because i'm trying to get a gas deal with their nationally owned gas syndicate. >> tucker: do you think there is something unpatriotic -- >> i love this country. >> tucker: you're saying carter page doesn't love this country. where did you go to college? >> u.s. naval academy. >> tucker: you're accusing him of being unpatriotic, he graduated from annapolis and was a naval officer but he doesn't love his country snnlts i don't know, i don't know what's in his heart. i have read the files on you, carter, and i hope that you are a good person and i hope that if you are a good person all of this goes away. from what i read, it is something that i would be concerned about if i was the fbi and you were on a presidential campaign. i would be worried that the russians would be infiltrating that. >> tucker: carter, do you love

your country? do you love your country, carter page? >> i love my country and actually, all of my actions directly speak to that. and i think, you know, president trump and his initiatives in terms of building a better structure for international relations, particularly u.s.-russia relations, i think is going to show great love for the country. >> tucker: i'm embarrassed to live here, this is a shameful moment in our nation's history. >> a great code word, a great code word in the document from john solomon today. they use the term, there's a new code word, dragon, right? interest reminded me of dragon energy, that kanye west was talking about. both dragon energy, president trump is my brother, i love everyone. it's this very positive approach, trying to create a better world for all american citizens. and better peaceful situation in the world.

versus, i think well we heard from mr. hawn of just tearing people down. the funny part of that is going bab to the dossier, they were pulling these same false hoods -- >> i don't know about the dragon stuff. >> tucker: you don't seem like a spy to me. gentlemen, we're out of time, thank you both. whoa! dan bongino is a former secret service agent. do you love your country? did you think we'd get to a place where the mccarthy era sort of restarted again but with a different cast where people were accusing one another of not loving their country? you give somebody a college sill a bus who's working for a foreign intelligence service? what is going? >> it's a disgrace, tucker, this is a stain on our country, what is going on right now. what happened to the civil libertarian west.

allen dershowitz can't go to march that's vineyard without being threatened. he's asking the questions we've been asking for months, where's the crime? where's the crime? there's no probable cause a crime was committed. carter page is on your television show. if this guy is the greatest kingpin of a spy operation we've seen in modern american history why is he free? well maybe you got the story wrong. as that ever occurred to the mead yao? >> tucker: i'm not sure what carter page is saying some of the time but clearly not betr betraying his country, an annapolis graduate, to spy on him with no evidence is shameful behavior. will there be a point, i don't ask you to prognosticate, where the left wakes up and says we're abetting something that's really dark and wrong. we shouldn't do this. we should return to civil liberties. >> no. they're not investigating a crime, and the left is not looking for a crime. what they're looking for is the

skal many of donald trump, they aren't looking for a crime. there is no crime. tucker, that solomon piece today in "the hill" is devastating. at one point it says, they went after carter pain, the fbi read the media reports, they used the media reports carter page complained about as an excuse to interview carter page. that's in the report today. i mean, is this a third world country? >> tucker: sure seems like it. it's not about trump, it's about america. dan bongino, thank you. democratic socialists, they are everywhere. the head of the democratic party says they're the future. what is democratic socialism exactly? we've got one of the most celebrated leaders of that movement, cornell west, joining us after the break. joining us after the break.

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not yet. it is an entirely separate month. with its own national organization, the democratic social interests of america. the dsa endorsed bernie sanders and opposed donald trump but did not endorse hillary clinton. at times it's been antagonistic to the party. there's no formal platform but the outlines are clear. democratic social interests support socialism, state openership of major industries, healthcare, technology, manufacturing. some of them explicitly support communism. the co-chair of portland oregon's chapter recently tweeted this, quote, as a dsa chopped co-chair i want to set the record straight. communism is good. but democratic social ishl havism is about more than economics, the official twitter account demands reparations in the form of african-americans, forgiveness of student loans and guaranteed lifetime income. the dsa calls for an end to

immigrant deportations in the united states. the dsa has called for the abollish of borders. that gives you an idea. unlimited uncontrolled immigration into the u.s. coupled with race based reparations, any massive expansion of the welfare state financed by an economic system that does not recognize profit. how would that work? has it ever worked in any country? the world? suddenly seem like relevant questions. at this pays a democratic social interest could get the nomination and be elected president. we thought it was perfect moment to speak to possibly the most famous of all advocates for democratic socialism, cornell west, from harvard, hon rary co-chair of the democratic socialists of america, thank you for coming on. >> thank you. good to be in dialogue with you once again. >> tucker: yes, it is. to give us some sense of what democratic socialism, can you

point to an example, an extent example that works? vebz well a seems like an example of democratic socialism, venezuela, does it work? >> i don't think that democratic socialism as an ideal has been able to be inbodied in a larger social context. there are different forms. some are bad, some are medium, some are better. it is to the dignity of order people and to make sure they can live lives of decency. it's not annism, brother, it's about -- it's not an ism, it's about accountability of the powerful vis-a-vis those who have less power. women dealing with a household, days, lesbians, trans, black people, indigenous people, immigrants. how do we ensure they're treated decently and powerful don't if any way sub ju gate and exploit them. >> tucker: if that's what

democratic socialism, i'm basically onboard. i think middle class people ought to have security and our current systems make it hard to have dignity. i agree with that. >> absolutely. >> tucker: but the details matter. >> that's why albert dine stein, helen keller, norman thomas, eugene debbs, martin luther king, they're all democratic social interests. michael harrington, member for 36 years. >> tucker: has it struck you as interesting that it's never actually worked anywhere? the question is not what are our goals, how do we get there is the question. what happened in venezuela? they call it democratic socialism but they don't have toilet paper. it's let's kwal than ever. >> part of the problem is wro brother any time there's attempts of order people to engage in self determination, they can get crushed by external nation, look at u.s. policies toward venezuela, very ugly,

nicaragua, we saw it where countries tried to engage in self determination. they get crushed, they get coerced, and they end up oftentimes responding to that kind of authorize tearian treatment. we never -- authoritarian treatment. it's only been a movement so far. attempt to resist the greed at the top, the racism, the sexism, the homophobe yashg the various ways in which u manity is violated rather than affirmed. >> tucker: here's, just to the details quickly. the dsa of new york one of the biggest in the country recently -- >> thank god for sister alexandria. >> tucker: they said they're against borders, profits, and prisons. what would a country without prisons look like? what would you do with murderers or rapists, where would you put them? . well, when they say prisons they're talking about the kinds of prisons we have at the present.

if you have sites rehabilitation, education, ways in which transformation can take place, you and i, ourselves, you're episcopalian, i'm baptist, we're christians, we believe all human beings are made in the image of god and can be changed, transformed, when the right kind of intervention takes place. that's what people mean in the socialist movement talk about the elimination of the kind of prisons that are in place. >> tucker: better prisons? maybe they should be specific. what about borders, though. >> you can have isolation, you can have distance but you don't give up on them and you don't view them in the vicious -- through the lens of being less than human. that they can bounce back. they can be better. >> tucker: so, if a government's obligation is to its own citizens, and you drop the borders and have no border enforcement at all, what would happen to this country? what would happen to the poor people in this country? would their lives get better no,

this country would become poorer, dirtier, impossible to manage, it would be flooded with the poor of the world. and interest would destroy our country instantly. why would you say no borders? >> i mean, again, you have a va right of voices in the democratic social interests of america. like a jazz orchestra. you have different per spec tifls and orientations, we don't all agree on one particular policy at all times. israeli occupation, some are in the middle, some more critical like myself. the question is, how do you keep track of the rich humanity of mexican brothers, those from african america, africa, haiti, europe and asia. we know the history of america, indigenous people and africans was to open the borders, bring folk in. to allow people in. it's not a matter of no borders at all, it's how do you ensure their dignity is affirmed when

they arrive so that you don't have the kind of neofascist policies of the trump administration separating precious children from their mothers and fathers. >> tucker: that's silly. >> what, what? >> tucker: hold on, how do you think the desen dented of american slaves benefit when you bring in 25 million illegals, illegal immigrants from the third world, does that elevate poor americans? i don't see any evidence that they get richer or happy where you bring in more poor people. you ignored their problems. >> but, brother, if we were having this discussion 100 years ago and you had millions of people coming from jew-hating europe, irish hating britain and ireland, all of the folks who came into making the slice of this nation, did it not allow for the kind of coming together with poor and working people would be able to straighten their backs up and speak with dignity and decency about issues that affect all of us?

that's the history of the nation with the exception of the african slaves and the precious indigenous people. now that immigrants are here and a lot of immigrants, only been here one or two generations, now become the definitive authority, defining what it is to be an american. how high po critical can you get. i have been here nine generations coming out of enslaved people and i can embrace my mexican brothers and sisters, a whole host of others from around the world. >> tucker: i can, too -- >> i don't believe in no borders. it's a question of making sure the dignity us affirmed when they get here. >> tucker: you better get ahold of the dsa of new york twitter account. >> we have a number of voices. we believe in disagreement. we believe in disagreement. you were talking about disagreement. defending civil liberties. i believe in protecting civil liberties, yours, mine, page, bernie sanders, a whole host of folks. >> tucker: you always get me at

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>> an immigrant shut down the statue of liberty on july 4. you think she would be a villain, she's regarded as a hero on the left.

she pleaded not guilty to federal trespassing and disorderly conduct charges. she walked out of courthouse wearing a white supremacy is terrorism t-shirt then said this to a crowd of supporters. >> michelle obama, our beloved first lady that i care so much about, says when they go low we go high. and i went as high as i could. trump has wrecked this country. it is depressing, it is outrageous. i can say a lot of things about this monster. only a stupid, unintelligent coward and insecure, i would add a maniac, would rip a tender aged child from its mother. >> tucker: imagine you're coming from the congo, one of the worst countries in the world, probably not a lot of nice people there but a bad country.

comes to the united states, you get this new home given to you by the people of the united states and you show up and you are not grateful at all. instead you are denouncing the country and its leader as racist, white supremacist, monsters. that's heroism on the left, apparently. the american economy has been steadily improving this year. resent headlines warn of catastrophe, from cnc, the u.s. labor force is reaching a short ak. it's not hard to tell what the labor shortage pieces are trying to imply. opinion piece in the mill newspaper, quote, immigration is the best solutiontor shortage of workers in america. that's a crock. big business want to import more workers, lets them keep wages low, labor costs down. without immigration there's no solution to a so-called shortage, raise wages. take a chance on marginal

workers, disabled workers, those with a criminal record. the ones the left says they care about. it would be great if that happened. about $7 million american men in the country between 25 and 54, prime working age unemployed or out of the labor force. many of them have stopped looking for work during the great recession. they aren't counted. each one is a living disaster. the tight labor market is what we could use to get all of these or many of them back to work. hiring americans is the fastest way to reduce poverty, strengthen families, reverse the decline of men, cut crime, restore dignity to rural america and make it a better country. some businesses don't want to do that, it's easier to import workers. tough. steven is director of research at immigration studies hearing joins us tonight. how offensive as an american to read with 7 million prime age men out of the workforce that we have a labor shortage. we need to import more low wage

labor. >> that's just the high school dropouts, you look at people without high school education there's about 40 million between 18 and 65 who have no education, don't have a college education. who are currently out of the workforce. they don't show up in statistics. that's several million more than it was at the peek of the last economic expansion. there's no evidence of a labor shortage. >> tucker: just the opposite, there's a huge pool of people languishing without meaningful work and businesses rather than trying to do something, where our leaders rather than try to improve public schools find it easier to import. >> we can look at wanls as another measure. if labor was in tight supply we expect wanls to be rising. we can look at wanls for high school dropouts, people with only a high school education or some college. over the past decade their wages stagnant or decline. no evidence of a labor short an. we worry about the working poor,

we worry about income inequality, work not paying. people dropping out. and living on welfare. yet, now we have an opportunity to see wages rise. and yement the business community -- yet the business community and allies in both parties are clambering to shoshgt circuit it. >> tucker: you wonder why socialism which is a disaster is so popular, wages are low and they can't afford to buy a house or get married. you would think the left would notice. this me were always historically on the side of workers and higher wages. they don't care. >> at this point the idea is they just don't want to look at this question. look, we'll incries minimum wage, have unions, welfare transfers. whatever you think of the merits, why aren't have isn't a tight labor market one of the best things we can do for the working poor. one of the best anti-poverty programs. there's all the self-esteem that comes from working. so it seems like in terms of making people's lives better, making wages better, drawing the people out of the labor force

back in, tight labor market is the best thing we can do. immigration is likely going to shortcircuit that if they have their way. >> tucker: do you think if the majority of immigrants coming to the country voted republican that democrats might renew their interest in the tight labor market? . it's true, 2-1, immigrants are voting democratic. that does have april impact. i mope hope you're wrong. >> tucker: maybe. >> but it seems -- >> tucker: not to be sin i cam. steven, thank you, interesting. san francisco probably the most beautiful city in the continental united states is coated in human waste and discarded syringes. is the city finally paying the price for becoming a left wing distoepia? we'll explore that question next. ♪motorcycle revving ♪ motorcycle revving ♪motorcycle revving ♪ motorcycle revving ♪

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of course for years it's been covered with needles and human waste. but this week, residents have been complaining about the stench of a staggering 20 pound bag of human feces, it's real, left on a sidewalk. finally the city is paying the price for the chaos. a major medical convention is moving to a different city. they're citing health risks to attendees. we have a long-time actress, republican candidate for california's 36th condition congressional district. thanks for coming on. thank you for having me. >> tucker: some one who loves california, i know you do, too. it takes a lot to destroy a city like san francisco. how did this happen? >> you know what, tucker, i'm third generation california born and raised. this is not the california i came from, or you for that matter. i know are you a southern california boy. but prop. 47, once that passed,

and you could actually steal anything, $950 below, the homeless have been flocking to the state of california. >> tucker: that was the proposition that made low level crimes not crimes, basically. . exactly, exactly. and i can tell you, on a personal level, i have people coming in to my stores on a regular basis, stealing items that my employees are later finding on craig's list. the police can't do anything about it. they won't show up because where do you send a ticket for some one who's homeless? they don't show up any longer. they have made crime okay in the state of california. and in san francisco, where you're talking about, i mean, that's pelosi's backyard. she is part of that liberal agenda that is driving california down the path that it's going. and ruiz, who i'm running against, is doing the same thing. they don't understand what's going on in california. they want to turn the other way.

>> tucker: and they're totally in their bubbles. san francisco is one of the richest places, not just in the world but inial of human history. yet it has the most filth on the sidewalk and the most people living the outside. i find it totally berserk, do they not notice it? >> well, i just don't think that they care. they're trying to attract people to california, to keep their voter base popular. and i can tell you, this is not the california that we want any longer. we need change here december cattily. -- desperately. my employees, every morning, to have go out and clean the feces, the needles, they have to troy to get people who are homeless to move. people are afraid to come to businesses any longer in the state of california. and just like you said, as far as conventions coming to california, that's a big industry here. and that's changing as well. they're not paying attention.

they're not listening. and they're going to have to very soon. or we're going to continue down this road. >> tucker: it took centuries to puld that state and they wrecked it so fast. good luck in your race. i'm suddenly rooting for you, good to talk to you. >> good to see you, tucker. take care. >> tucker: lawmakers in new york failed to pass a bill banning revenge porn. they say google is to blame. interesting story. i like chillaxin. the new united explorer card makes things easy. traveling lighter. taking a shortcut. (woooo) taking a breather. rewarded! learn more at theexplorercard.com

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>> ♪ >> ♪ ♪ >> tucker: lawmakers in the state of new york recently took up a bill that would have banned so-called revenge porn, posting of naked images online without

the consent of the naked. the bill failed to pass, though, and some say google is to blame for that. google demanded numerous changes on the day of the vote. lawmakers si it was not voted on. beverly holberg joins us. >> i think google took way too long to voice their concerns. this has been in the works for about five years. we have 40 states including washington, d.c. that have passed similar legislation. it is suspect, it has something to do with them not wanting to be involved. but there is validity, not asking platforms like google, facebook to have be the ar buy traitors of what should be on their platforms and what shouldn't. there are community guidelines that they need to follow, public decency. but do we want face book and google to be the arbitrator of what is consensual, not

consensual? should we put our free speech rights in their hands? >> tucker: we've already giving given them, and they klatch down on ideas they don't like. they sensor ideas they don't like. and they're liberal. you raise a valid point. question for me, to what extent does google have control over the legislative process? lobbying efforts seem so vast but no one reports on it. >> unfortunately too much. it's extremely suspect. i'm in the sure with these legislators in new york city or new york state what is the poll, why so late in the game. i think there's cronyism going on. are they giving funds to the legislators for their campaigns, what is behind it. but, again, i think when it comes to big tech they're to blame for a lot of things. recently, i thought the most surprising story about big tech this week, they said that facebook, one of the facebook the outlets, they said that posting of the amendments from the constitution was hate speech. there was a texas publication that leading up to july 4, said

we want to post an amendment every day, show people what is in the bill of rights. and one of the amendments they said was actually hate speech. they now have unblocked it and put it back on. once again, why is big tech determining what is hate speech, what is not. i think that's concerning. why re they in the pockets it seems at times with so many elected officials. >> tucker: that is the question. so you have a company that has more power than any company has ever had in human history over not just what we know but how we think, it has a demonstrated history of censorship, plilt cal censorship. the congress has done nothing about it. doesn't that by itself almost suggest that they control the congress to a greater degree than a company should. >> the other side, when it comes to these platforms, i think government doesn't know how they work. even when you look at cyber security, what happens with the russians, facebook, there's a lot of questions of government in our elected officials and the

different branchs of government, do they understand how this works. could they even know the -- do they even know the type of regulation. when you look at the tech innovation and it's outpacing what our lawmakers are able to keep up with. what is the answer to it, when government officials don't understand it. i do like that we have legislate ocean state level dealing with these laws. we have to get away with, are up elected bureaucrats making regulations. we kneeled more people i think involved in figuring out how to protect our privacy, that actually understand the technology. sadly, government just doesn't, they aren't up to speed. >> tucker: these elected officials ought to be writing the laws and not people you haven't heard of. thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: china rolling out new trade restrictions, seeming to have an impact on the next election. huh, a foreign power intervening in our democracy. i'm sure they're on to something. our democracy. we will be right back with that. still nervous about finding a new apartment?

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>> ♪ >> tucker: >> tucker: a post in the "new york times," this is describing china's retaliatory tariffs against the united states. quote, beijing said on friday, today, its levies had kicked in immediately after the president's tariffs wednesday in. the 545 goods including beef, dairy other farm goods in addition to cars was chosen to hit president trump's s porters in industrial parts of the midwest, end quote. huh. china is hitting trump supporters in the midwest. it sounds like election meddling to us. it sounds like trying to hack our democracy. in a way far more significant than buying a few facebook ads. the "new york times" spent a year decrying democracy hacking, is not demanding an investigation. they didn't even notice it

didn't seem like. why is that? we'll leave you the weekend to think about it. that's it for us, tune in every night at 8:00 to the show a sworn enemy of lying and smugness. have a great weekend. ♪ ♪ >> hello, america, mark levin, this is life, liberty and levin. i have a special guest. tucker carlson, good to see you. no, this, i've been in tv 23 years. this is the most spectacular studio. congratulations. number one show on sunday nights. >> thank you. >> you're killing it. >> sean: i have to persuade you to do this. >> i owe you and a few other people the fact i got into radio. you kept prodding me, prodding me.