better. >> a judge will make as many -- when you come back, let not your heart be troubled. f laura ingraham is next. >> good evening from the white house, this is laura ingraham. president trump replace the retiring justice anthony kennedy. 53-year-old of brett kavanaugh is currently a judge on the d.c. circuit court of appeals and widely regarded as the most prestigious court outside of the united states. judge cavanaugh is straight out of central casting, a judge who would have strongly been considered i think by any republican president. he is a graduate and the man he's nominated to succeed,

justice anthony kennedy. joining me now to analyze a presidents pick is the senior fox news political analyst, brit hume, ken starr who washe judge kavanaugh's boss, justin walker, who clerked for both judge kavanaugh and justice kennedy and leonard at leo, the president's top outside advisor on judicial picks. leonard, let's go to your first. congratulations, you are also kind of the man of the moment because you've been working this process behind the scene. we were both in that room together when brett kavanaugh walked out, as father comes out first, as mother, mrs. scalia was there. two of the sons of mrs. scalia, and of course general edwin meese from the reagan administration, former attorney general. what did you feel? i know what i felt when that was all going down.

the idea of transforming that federal judiciary to respect the constitution and the law and then seeing brett and his beautiful family, it wasn't electric magical evening. >> 12 years on the circuit court of appeals, for people who aren't really into the legal organization of the courts. the d.c. court is the second-highest ports. there's a lot of administrative law cases, and a lot of cases, judge kavanaugh dealt with a lot of those cases, he doesn't have a lot of those. >> he has a couple of cases on religious freedom which is really important. he does have one really important finance case and he has all these cases involving

the administrative state where he gets intont the whole issue f how the government needs to be accountable and transparent in the separation of powers needs to becr respected. that's almost 300 opinions. >> now i know it sounds kind of trite, but i revere the constitution. anyone says they revere the constitution but, full disclosure, i've known brett for 27 years, he does revere the constitution. people were criticizing him over the last 72 hours because of the staff secretary, which runs the paper flow for bush 43. lots of conservatives said, well, he comes out of the bush administration, how can we trust him to be scalia or thomas or gorsuch. what do you say those that are still doubting brett kavanaugh? >> you've known him for a long time and as you know he's dedicated his entire life to

defending the constitution and the rule of law. he understands that what makes that judge the most fair is the idea that you interpret the laws thatat are written and enforcedn respect the constitution. and you have to go to you. you've been standing where i'm standing, so many years during so many of these pitched battles for the supreme court nominations, what is your sense after hearing judge cavanaugh h speak tonight, and yet the resistance out there from so many senators who on the left side, we are not going to support anyone whom this president nominates? >> i think judge kavanaugh gave an impressive account of himself. he has a nice family and seems to be a nice young man. he seems young to me, anyway. t but i'm bound to tell you that after the announcement i went and watched some of the reaction

on our competing channels and i must tell you that it is already starting. he has rendered a number of decisions, for example reining in theon administrative state he in washington. and he will be portrayed, a laura, as an enemy of the environment, as a defender of big interest against the little guy and it's a litany that you've heard before. you will hear it again. it will get very loud and it will be almost 100% humbug but it will be out there and all i can say about it is he needs to be well prepared to defend himself in the hearings and the white house and thosean supportg this nomination better be prepared to rebut the allegations because they will be thick andd fast. >> judge star, you've been in the thick of it yourself with the left opposing any sense that you might ultimately rise to the court at one point during your career. they painted you as a guy -- like you couldn't be trusted

with the sacrosanct rights to abortion in the constitution, and all these other social issues. you have seen it close up, what the city is like, to dedicated professionals who are dedicated to the rule of law, the constitution, and textualism. as a jurist potential outlook. your reaction to brett whom you know very well, who worked for you and the independent counsel >> brett kavanaugh is the real thing. i predict that he will be confirmed and it's going to be i guess easy for some people to vote against him. but he will wear it well. he's the real thing and he is the goodness of kindness andss spirit that we have sought tonight in the statement. what we heard tonight reallyy came from his heart and i have known him since he was coming off of the justice kennedy clerk shop. what you see with him is where you get -- what you get.

substantively i think we will have a different conversation. i think we will have the political conversation that's unfolding as brett just said. but i think it will be a deeper conversation, i hope there will be. it began tonight, what do we want the supreme court to be and what do we want supreme court justice to be. we can use shorthand terms and they are helpful, regionalism and textualism. i would also say that we -- do we want to's restore the traditions of the homes as and apprentices and, byron white, appointed by president kennedy, who believed fervently in that we the people, and the ability of we the people to govern ourselves as opposed to governing five platonic guardians including a 5-4 majority. it's the right of we the people to govern ourselves. brett kavanaugh has the advantage in addition to being just soo steep in those first principles to also understanding

what we have been talking about and that is the administrative state. and of the need for accountability. he's been a very powerful voice with the fundamental principle. >> justin, you clicked both for kennedy and kavanaugh. justice kennedy has hired seven of judge kavanaugh's clerks over the years meaning justice kennedy puts judge kavanaugh in high regard. you are one of the clerks i guess but going back to the conservatives that are going nuts over the past few hours, what can you tell my viewers, our viewers at fox tonight about their relationship, anthony kennedy and judge kavanaugh's relationship and does not expand into their jurist potential outlook on some of these hot button cases? >> they both absolutely revere

the constitution. i just can't imagine how proud justice kennedy must be that his successor will be not only one of his former clerks but a former clerk -- justice kennedy talked about him in chambers all the time. he would point to the chair where judge kavanaugh sat and said, brett, he was always there in the morning when i came in and he was always there at night when i left. i would say, brett, go home, you work too hard. but he would never go home. he's probably bursting with pride right now. i guess i also think america --g i think they will fall in love with judge kavanaugh and i think there will be some senators who find it very difficult to vote against such a family man, such a patriot and someone who has just spent the last 12 years on the second highest port writing 300 opinions, 300 times out of 300 times. and adhere to the constitution and approach ofer the matter not

fair and impartial way. >> you alluded to the causticau nature of this nomination process early on. i want to play for all of you part of what mitch mcconnell said today on the senate floor about how the sky is always falling when a republican nominates someone to the court. let's watch. >> we are looking at the destruction of the constitution of the united states, as far as i can tell. it's hard to keep a straight face when you hear stuff like thatat. please, give the american people some credit. decade after decade, nominee after nominee, the far left script hardly changes at all. anyone and everyone a republican president nominates to the supreme court of some kind of threat to the republic. >> laura: while that was about

as animated as you and i have ever seen, senator mcconnell. i mean as great of a speech as judge cavanaugh gave tonight, coaching cyo basketball and the story about his parents being incredible people. the left doesn't care about any of that. this is about abortion and gay marriage, and that's it. >> is about those kinds of issues, and it gives you a sense of what is this issue and its seizure by the american court back in 1983 has done to our judicial system. this is an issue that should have been settled by the legislative processes and let the people decide with the law ought to be. and the supreme court divides a right but no one had previously detected in the constitution for that and we have been fighting this battle ever since. far from settling the issue, it has animated and some might say poisoned our politics to the

greatest sense ever since. once again that issue comes to the fore. it is the end during political and moral issue of our time and one which the courts have had more to do with and they probably should have. that's the approach that judges like brett kavanaugh and others on this list would have stood against and that is why the democrats and their allies are so opposed to such nominee is. they are accustomed now to winning these victories on social policy and other issues by judicial fiat. they are not able to win them in the legislative process and that is why they are so much steak at nomination like this which tips the balance of the supreme cour supreme court. this may be as judge starr suggested an edifying process in which that will be able to occur. i hope so. but i'm a political reporter and i'm telling you what i see out there and it looks rough to me. >> chuck schumer was there

today, he basically was up there -- he was right. it was like hitting the gong about how this is an alarm bell for the left and for the democrats. this is do-or-die, you have to stop this. but my question is, if brett kavanaugh is solidly conservative but, maybe not answer and then skinned scalia. but if he is solidly conservative, replacing someone who is usually conservative, or traditionally conservative, is it that big of a swing on the court, is it really given especially the last years of opinions by this court where anthony kennedy was with a 5-4 majority on every opinion of great consequence? >> that's a good point laura, you will see a lot of scare tactics. kennedy was not a moderate or liberal, he was for the most part a conservative justice especially in issues like

separation of powers, federalism, areas of religious freedom, free exercise in particular. weaw saw the last term and he voted with the conservative majority of the court, 75% of the time. so this is hyped up. and we know why, because the left wants to have a court that. is outcome based. they want to make sure that they get results from the court that they know they can't get through the political process. >> that hits the nail on the head, does it not? we now have a federal court system that is doing the difficult and ugly jobs of legislating them. you know this as well, barack obama had a profound effect on our judiciary. the nominations he got through even with some of the delays in the last few years, he transformed the fourth circuit court of appeals.

he transformed the backcourt with his nomination. >> this was not in fact what the founding generation intended. when we go back to alexander hamilton, the alexander hamilton, and we read his federalist 78, and what he said so eloquently, he said in about four pages and every school child should read it and every grown-up shed. this judiciary is the least dangerous branch. why is it the least dangerous branch? it's not going to be imposing its will on the american people. it will simply be exercising judgment. so that's what i call a grand tradition. the john marshall's come up the great chief justice, all the way through so many justices who are revered given to a great extent by the left. they would not in fact countenanced the kind of scare tactics for one thing.

this is beyond the pale. but we also care about results. we are here to make what we believed to be the most humane and compassionate that is not what we were here to do -- when i say we i mean the courts and the land. i would much rather be stewards of the law and take the text, meditate on that text but don't just make it up. and that is the great divide that is going to divide the united statesin senate. >> justice kennedy and judge cavanaugh, and let's watch. >> tomorrow i begin meeting with members of the senate, which plays an essential role in this process. i will tell each senator that i

revere the constitution i believe that an independent judiciary is the crown jewel of our constitutional republic. if confirmed by the senate i will keep an open mind in every case and i will always strive to preserve the constitution of the united states and the american rule of law. the one for all the suspicious conservatives out there who remember david hackett souter who trotted around the senate and that all these senators baca in the day and he turned out to be a judge, very nice man but we ultimately evolved toward a much more needed point of reference. it's judge cavanaugh the type of judge who will it evolve? for all those critics on the

right,ga those who would evolve from the more liberal block on this, what would you say to them? >> i would point out that when i took judge kavanaugh's class as a first-year law student, the first thing he assigned me was to read the constitution. this could be an exciting and fun minutes, because she read case after case and sometimes you have to take a whole constitutional walk. anybody who comes at this question with an open mind is going g to find a judge who has spent 12 years at hearings to the structure, the history, the meaning, the text of the constitution and doing so in such a fair-minded way, he mentioned in his speech that the person who hired him as not justice kagan. three left of center justices, they have off hired a former

clerks of judge kavanaugh. and that's because left, right and center, judge and kavanaugh is so easy to respect and admir admire. >> laura: given this historic night, we appreciate your input. leonard leo is going to stay with us throughout the entire hour, and the other gentlemen, thank you so much. it's been hours since president trump announced his supreme court nominee but left of reference already in full resistance mode just a few miles from there. we will take you there -- well i'm not going but we will keep going after this

>> laura:ra if you are just joining us, president trump earlier tonight named conservative brett speed to replace the retiring justice anthony kennedy on the supreme court. chief white house correspondent john roberts joins us now to explain why thewi president went with the 53-year-old judge from the d.c. court of appeals. i feel like i am intruding on your space right now. >> i learned that everyone we would talk to today said to come up while i think this. then someone else would say,

it's exactly the opposite. and hardiman's people said it's hardiman. he called the vice president, and he had told three other people that they were on the list. because the decision was so late, the white house had to prepare for background packages, even asking each one of the nominees who they would put on their guest list if they were chosen. so -- >> if you are one of the other people and you have your guest list, it's like that kind of sad. >> they people supporting the individual candidate said we've been asked for a guest list. i guess he is the one who he believes can get nominated, or confirmed through the process by the first of october. they think that's really important job.

that's going to allow the nomination to come to the floor. >> john, i heard in recent daysp there have been some resistance to cavanaugh building up and set up inside of the white house. people have saidm it seems like there is some criticism of kavanaugh's record. others were concerned because he had worked with judge star as part of the independent counsel in whitewater but that was going to be difficult also because he was staff secretary to bush, 43, who didn't even support president trump. i think i'm going to say that it is to president trump's credit that that did not dissuade him. he sat right outside the oval office for five years. >> and here's the tough thing about doing television, she knows far more than i do. but i do know that there was some resistance among -- not necessarily in the white house

but some people, particularly the 2011 obamacare decision where he rolled in his opinion at that the individual mandate was a tax as opposed to a penalty. they said we don't have the jurisdictionhe to hear this case because text doesn't kick in until 2015. >> the problem is then you have to deal with the supreme court precedent. >> he is a form believer -- she may be the next supreme court think. and then there was this idea that he was very tight with theh bushes. he met his wife ashley in 2001 and talked about that day because i was here the white house when we were all told to evacuate the white house because they thought there was a plane coming here. it was flight 93 that went into the ground in pennsylvania. everyone thought he was a little too tight with the bush administration for his liking. the fact that he put them out there with such conviction tonight -- >> this is going to

be a fun several weeks. john roberts, thank you so much. as everyone alluded to tonight, the left is already in full resistance modem, and they've began protesting as soon as president trump made the announcement. >> we will defeat brett kavanaugh. all of our rights are at stake. >> is a dangerous man that will endanger our fundamental freedom. >> he should not become the next of justice on the supreme court. that will take all of us fighting and home our constitutional rights. >> laura: they must've had a

lot of different signs. for they had to put up the kavanaugh sign. left-wing center for american progress put together tonight's protests. joining me now is chris hahn, chuck schumer, and matthew lemke, attorney in alabama who previously clerked for justice kennedy has been following this very closely. it's great to have all your view on tonight.tt justice kennedy for whom you clerked, i'm wondering what he is thinking tonight. he's probably over the moon. but that association with both justice kennedy and the bushes did give a lot of k conservativ. before we get into the resistance, pause about judge cavanaugh and whether he would be the right type of justice or whether he devolved in the bowl. matt, you know brett and you know justice kennedy, what are your thoughts after watching this unfold? >> it's a great night for justice kennedy, he's got to be

immensely proud that his law clerk has been nominated to the court. it will be a second law clerk because now justice speed 18 also clerked for justice kennedy. but in's terms of concerns, there is a 12 year record of 300 decisions by judge cavanaugh that show that he is a principled conservative who believes in judicial restraint and believes hee' is not the 10t senator of some super legislator horror, but instead, he is there to interpret the law. president trump had four great candidates, and people had their favorites but now i think people will rally around paul and conservatives will rally along, because j he really is the principled conservative that we can count on. >> laura: except the protesters. and chris, that's your party there on the court. they had all of their preprinted signs up, you have the male rail

people, planned parenthood people, center for american progress. i didn'too find that display tonight. i'm trying to put myself as an outside observer which is hard given my background clerking on the court. but none of that seemed attractive to me. they probably have a garland out there. what are your reactions? >> i -- if i have that i wouldn't be here talking about this tonight. but merrick garland, that all comes back to it, that's what set this up. the left wing of the democratic party and the democratic party as a whole has no choice but to resist this nominee, regardless of the qualification and regardless of his background. they feel that like their nominee was stolen by mitch mcconnell two years ago and as a result we are in for probably the super bowl of artists all

super bowls in battles inn congress over the next couple weeks. i think october 1 is a very aggressive deadline, especially given the fact that he had 300 decisions that people will have to wade through and understand. remember, i heard of mr. leo talk about the papers, my favorite is ambition must counteract ambition and congress has blocked ambition to counteract the sky so court is probably the last resort. democrat will take that into account when they look at this background. >> bernie sanders with out there -- in full resistance mode after the announcement by the president. but bernie was all hot and bothered, let's watch. >> what we are talking about here is a moment in american history where we have right wing extremists controlling the house, the senate and the white house. if we appoint another white wing

extremist to the supreme court, i have very serious concerns about justice in this countryil and what will happen to the men, women at the children and the future of our nation. >> laura: i think the left will try to use this to live up votes in the fall on the mid- mid-election cycle. that's why they want to put this off if they can until after the midterms. but your reaction, bernie sanders is still very popular. your reaction to his comments tonight before the court announcement? >> i think this it is ironic that this whole thing has occurred because hillary clinton rake to the whole democratic tocess so bernie sanders couldn't get traction, and now here we are. it's conservative and i'm very grateful that donald trump is now making the second terrific pick. the reality, laura, no matter

who had been picked. and remember in the gorsuch situationns democrats had blank signs and they took markers and filled in the blanks as to who was the person they were going to be protesting. i'm sure that happened today ase well it is in d.c. they could have been anyone on that list of 25 or anyve conservative in the same historical reaction would have been there. it's not even an hour later and blood is already running the streets according to these people. but remember the same crowd, people now for the american way, they said that justice souter was oak going to overturn roe v. wade. we've been hearing this hysteria, overreaction dating back to bork and before. each time they got it wrong and it's a boy who called wolf. >> laura: matt to, we have about 15 seconds. if there's one thing that brett kavanaugh could do to swear a collins or a murkowski, do you

think they will be problems in this ultimately? >> i think he will emphasize the importance of stare decisis then the court overturning the president. >> laura: we are out of time, we will be right back. stay there

>> my mom was a trailblazer. when i was ten she went to law school and became a prosecutor. my introduction to law came at our dinner table went to practiced her closing arguments. her trademark line was, use your common sense. what rings true, what rings false. that's good advice for a juror, and for a son. >> laura: judge kavanaugh seems like an obvious win for republicans. a few other people are grousing on the other networks.

he has a proven record protecting the constitution has not been afraid to court controversy. but, so they confirm him or something is this opportunity to motivate voters in the long-term election. joining me to a discuss, frank want and we also continue with the president's outside advisor has been inside the white house very beginning. two republican senators who arel pro-choice and who the left has been courting to oppose this nominee.rs can our viewers at fox tonight assumed that they have been consulted on this nomination, or is the president just confident that in the end it, they will vote tol confirm judge kavanaug? >> you know, senator collins

madear it clear what the road mp is for confirmation. she said she wanted a judge that would adhere to constitution and the laws and she wanted someone who is going to respect major precedents in the court. if you look at kavanaugh's record, that's what you get.ce you get someone who's grapples with precedent, she has certainly given herself and other moderates in the senate some space. >> and they confirmed this nominee is best rushed, and held to after the midterm elections. if frank lost his mind, what is he talking about? but explain this because i got more interesting is the day went on. >> i think chuck schumer is right. i in fact hope the republicans follow his advice. two reasons, we need a conversation about the

constitution. right now in 2018. the longer we have this conversation the better the conservatives are going to do. the press, religion, talk about the bill of rights and the ten amendments, the longer that conversation goes the better the conservatives do. t and why that document is so important. second, conservatives are much more focused on supreme court. and, it will elect at least two more republican senators. it may even save the republicans in the house because every conservative will vote to make sure that this man, a strict supporter of the constitution becomes the next supreme court justice.

it is that's significant in the americanra political process. >> laura: interesting. mark penn, i thought that wase interesting about whether that controversy should take place at that should occur before the november elections which i think will freak out chuck schumer and company. >> what about your pal frank's idea here? obviously that's from the republican perspective. i think it's interesting that i'm someone like, a bird in thes hand, get this guy done i always say that about endorsements, get them it done as quickly as possible because you never know what tomorrow brings. i think frank's strategy would be huge gift to the democrat.

i think the democratic base would be energized and the more it could turn out because then you could effectively affect the choice through the nomination. right now we will protest but there's nothing we can really do, which has not happened with neil gorsuch. so i think the longer this plays out, the more it plays to the democratic advantage, two-thirds of the people in this country would not overturn roe vs. wade even though abortion itself is a closely split issue. second trimester and third trimesteres abortions, most peoe want only under limited circumstances. they do not want to overturn and reopen social ones in this country and they think that all any nominee that would do that would probably take the country in the wrong direction and, it makes for a more divisive society. >> here's the problem with that. the problem with that is, you have someone like brett

kavanaugh who -- listen to his speech tonight. how he spoke, how he spoke with not only reverence about the constitution but the process. looking forward to meeting with the senators and being an independent jurists. i think most fair-minded people but most americans you can out to be --he you don't revive the constitution and put women in jail. that doesn't strike most people. i think that image tonight of the court hurts the democratstt morning, noon and night. i don't think it's attractive and i don't think the women out there tonight help the democrats at all.we frank, your thoughts about what we heard tonight? and apparently on another network tonight, cnn, rick santorum was criticizing brett kavanaugh. what is that all about?

>> well this country needs civics. it's not taught in high schools, it's not taught in colleges. and the longer that we have this discussion, it may not be about politics but it that the bill of rights matters and we shouldn't be politicizing everything. it's driving people insane. i love the fact that this president made this very calm, very conscientious choice and chose someone who is committed to theut constitution. i think the longer we have this conversation, the better it will be for america in the long run.k >> that's a risky idea, i get why frank is saying, and a lot of people wanted donald trump for immigration antitrade.

but this court became a very big issue in the presidential election, the supreme court. would you be in favor of letting this thing play out longer or do you agree with mark penn that that would be a -- the president made thisot a he ride a lot of routers around it. fo

he continued made that momentum and this is a train that has moved was a great pace over the last couple of years and i think that pay should continue. >> what about santorum hitting -- or hugh hewitt, one of the last time he was right about a major political issue? >> anyone who has read his nearly 300 opinions knows what he stands for. a lot of these folks are saying, he didn't come out in the health care case like the way we wanted but the fact of the matter is that he had a prior precedent that he followed there. i think it's just a red herring. >> stay here. we are really getting ahead of .urselves and keep putting that stay there. we will be right back

>> laura: i'm so excited, this is been such an incredible night. when it comes to potential supreme court nominee is, no one has the presidents here more than this man for judicial nominations, leonard leo who is now himself under fire. you step in the flames and you are going to get flamed before you. but i'm prettyge sure that any issue has become a target. you are now a target and chuck schumer did that today? >> known as building a

supreme court that will overturn roe v. wade, then the federalist society's leonard leo. the very man who chose the list of 25. that's what we are up against here. and that is why america is on tenterhooks. >> when he does this he is very serious. i mean i've known him for all r me. but the boots and compositional rides in the dumpster. but you have now become part of the story, how does that feel? >> you know, he made the supreme court the dividing issue in this election. he took ownership of this list

and it was his idea. they propelled him to victory and helped to hold the senate. he continued that momentum with neil gorsuch and he hasne been n the driver's seat this entire process. this is not outsourced, and he owns this process. senator schumer, he is just hysterical. they will be hysterical through this process. and they will see the constitution, they love the constitution. >> laura: but they say you republicans didn't give barack obama and mary garland, and of courseve senator mcconnell, black back nominations from going forward. i think now, they think it's payback time. >> well if people didn't look like that, they don't have to look at donald trump. >> and he was doing his own due

diligence. he was calling people, he was cross-referencing claims about certain nominees. he liked all of the nominations. it is that accurate? >> he did. it's true. he was as transparent and engaged and intense as any president in modern history. he met at length with these prospective nominees, he asked questions and he was on the golf course over the weekend on the phone half the time talking to people about this process. i mean, i've never seen anything like it. the democrats are complaining that it's a corrupt, secret game. >> this president has been out here working hard on this for a long time. >> laura: i have to bring this up, people who say, democrats should take over in november because this is not a true republican poet president.

you know others sometimes appear on our own network as well, lots of good people but they were just adamant. s people -- supposedly republicans adamant to block this. >> the supreme court on the constitution has always been at the center of the conservative and a g.o.p. agenda. and i hope that some of these people will begin to realize that this president has played an incredibly transformative, multigenerational role in helping to restore the constitution. >> it's not going to be a suitor, right leonard? >> that's absurd. >> all right. it's been fun. come back anytime and we will do a dramatic number.ti up next, supreme court confirmation history, raymond arroyo breaks down the theater of the confirmation process. stay there.

>> laura: you all know supreme court confirmation hearings have produced some of the most dramatic moments in senate history and could contain some lessons for judge cavanaugh. joining us now from new orleans to discuss the theater of the confirmation process, raymond arroyo. i know you spent the day watching old scotus confirmation hearings in the past, so which do you think cavanaugh could

most benefit from it?s >> i did indeed. i pulled some because i looked this nominee and as i've been mentioning, 13 years on the federal bench but what many people felt, he was part of the whitewater investigation, he usote the starr report. and i expect, as i watch these hearings, and they put me in mind of ted kennedy. in 1987 he dredged up robert bork's history working for richard nixon. here's what he said. >> the man who fired archibald cox does not deserve to sit on the supreme court of the united states. robert bork's america was on the land in which women would be forced into black alley promotions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch towers, and school children could not be

taught about evolution. writers as an artist would be censured at the whim ofe government. >> i think we will hear that type of language, that dystopiag nightmare will be printed againo those back alley distortions will be trying to paint kavanaugh with that same brush.k they worked in the case of judge bork because he was very defensive and sharp and didn't quite know how to do that. >> i loved him but the charm factor was on display. and he kicked a puppy is, too. i'm surprised kennedy didn't say that. remember elena kagan, she had an interesting way of dealing with tough questions. this is a good exchange. >> i should ask exactly what you

mean by that. >> i just was asking where you were on christmas. >> [laughs] you know, like all jewish, i was probably at a chinese restaurant. >> that hearing was like stand-up comedy but brette kavanaugh should watch something there. you can watch that light touch, he has that warmth and has two get in touch with that interest jerry seinfeld and have a good time. the admissions that we heard tonight, that he was an altar boy, that may come back to haunt him because they will try to use the catholic thing against cavanaugh. now you are a boss thomas, they grew everything in clarence thomas including the kitchen sink. he decided to respond with righteous indignation. this is another way to go.

watch. >> this is a circus, it's a national disgrace. and from my standpoint as a black american, as far as i'm concerned, it is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deigned to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas.e it is a message that is unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. >>: never have truer words been spoken by my former boss. brilliant jurist has had an amazing career on the court,

>> laura: in the last 81 years. only three other justices have held thisseat. hugo black. lewis powell and anthony kennedy. and i think, i could take a

solid bette on this that rick cavanagh will be confirmed by the u.s. senate. this fight will be something. we'll be with you covering it every step of the way. good night from the whitete hou. shannon bream is up next. >> this is the fox news alert. i'm shannon bream in washington. a historic night for the white house and for the nation. making an impassinged appeal to the left tasking about his family commitment to community and telling america, he would keep an open mind in every case. the first pitch to the deeply divided senate looking at mid term other elections and president trump efforts to nominate conservatives to the high court. potentially leaving indellable mark on the high court for decades. we will break it down. from senator ben sax to the tony perkins for the news we have team coverage. justin fisher is looking into cavanagh background and the protest against