president george w. bush talking about our good friend and colleague, tony snow. and perhaps the best ever white house press secretary. he passed away ten years ago today. we miss him and witness his intelligence, warmth and good advice. that is our story, and we will be back tomorrow from london. big day here, good night. ♪ >> what a day, welcome to tucker carlson tonight, i brian kilmeade. disgraced fbi agent peter strzok dealing with lawmakers for hours as they probe him about his handling of the trump-russia investigation big time. his text to his then lover lisa page and possible bias of the fbi. congressman louis gomer it will join us in a few moments. he grilled strzok on his dishonesty and got personal. >> i see you sitting there with

a little smirk, how many times did you look so innocent into your wife sophia and lie to her? >> it was a rowdy college dorm at times. congressman trey gowdy ripped into him as well. >> i don't appreciate what was originally said being changed. >> peter strzok himself could not avoid grandstanding sing the entire affair played into the hands of russia. >> i have the utmost respect for congress as oversight role, but i strongly believe it's just another victory notch in vladimir putin's belt, and the fox chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live on capitol hill. 12 hours, 13 hours, 72 lawmakers. what did you glean from that? >> in the last couple of hours we have had some additional

headlines, brian. what i want to point out right now is an interesting exchange e was about his removal from the russian council investigation in july of 2017. we learned that robert mueller never asked him specifics about the anti-trump text messages. here is that exchange. >> i want to know if bob mueller asked you about this text message. >> director miller did not ask me about any text messages, congressman. >> just days after miller is appointed, two text messages, you reference impeachment. did bob mueller ask you why you were referencing impeachment? >> congressman as i've just stated he did not ask me about any text message. >> we also got more insight about the intimate text from august of 2016 when he and lisa page talked about stopping trump.

he said today that was a reference to a lot of anger he felt after what he described as then candidate trumps belittling of a gold star family. >> my presumption based on that horrible, disgusting behavior that the american population would not elect somebody demonstrating that behavior to be president of the united states. we will stop it. you are speaking on behalf of the american people, correct? >> i don't recall writing that text. what i can tell you is that text in no way suggested that i or the fbi would take any action to influence the candidate. >> that is a fantastic answer to a question nobody asked. >> agent struck strzok was alsd about that key phrase that he could smell the the trump repo.

is that exchange. >> i clearly wasn't smelling one thing or the other. >> what i meant by that was living in northern virginia traveling 100 or 150 miles south within the same straight, i was struck by the extraordinary difference in the expression of belief in the community there. >> i could write that as smell in capital letters. >> that was a quick choice of words. >> democrat said today that this was testimony designed to dirty up and damage the special counsel russia investigation and they also made the point that if agent strzok have this anti-trump bias, why didn't he leak information during the campaign when they would hurt candidate trump most? here is that exchange. >> if you had wanted to harm and interfere with the election of

president trump, you could have leaked information that the investigation was ongoing. but none of that came out. >> we also have new information tonight about the fbi lawyer lisa page. she was under the threat of contempt earlier this week and she has now agreed, brian come up to a closed door of deposition. so that the transcribed interview behind closed doors tomorrow. >> i don't know how you could possibly get to every question i have for you, katherine timpf but basically the over reveal. peter strzok says i wrote those things, i'm allowed to write those things, i shouldn't have written those things but it didn't affect the investigation. we don't know yet what happened in terms of the russian investigation but in terms of the hillary clinton investigation, is he right? i think that he made overly broad statements about the findings of the justice

department and inspector genera inspector general. just as the inspector general in fact found, when you get to sort of august of 2016, when there is that text message about stopping trump, that was the point in which the inspector general sai said, we have changed from expressing an anti-trump sentiment to talking about some kind of action. and he said from their on going forward, you could not reach the conclusion that actions were taken without political bias. so kind of trying to prove a negative. so agent strzok was very generous of you well in terms of his interpretation of the inspector general's findings and i would emphasize to folks at home, the inspector general was not looking at the impact of any political bias on decision-making about the opening of the russia probe and the early days of that investigation. that's going to come at a later date. >> and finally, in this investigation you did not get him to answer the question, what

does he mean about stopping trump. he doesn't remember writing tha that. is that acceptable? >> there was some conflict in the testimony about that specific text at one point, he said i don't remember writing it and then he said i remember writing it out late at night. then i was driven by anger. the bottom line with the text messages, and i think this is the big important deck away. if you talk to people like i have, one of the things that you do not do as this send a live text message especially text messages about personal comprising information because that's what they look for in order to compromise. agent strzok was the number two person at the fbi in this area and he knows our intelligence services are looking for exactly this kind of information, to use

against someone to bring them onto our team. so in many respects that was one of the cardinal rules that agent struck broke and that's why was shown by a number of congressmen. >> he was to blame, he was in the spot and he had a very prestigious job that made anyone question the outcome. catherine herridge, great job and thanks for setting us up. because you are welcome. >> brian: one of the republican lawmakers they are louie gohmert, and things boiled over during the hearing. the fbi and his personal behavior. >> the disgrace for what this man has done. it won't be recapture of anytime soon because of the damage you have done to the justice system. i've talked to fbi agents around the country. you have embarrassed of them and embarrass yourself and i can't help but wonder, when i see you looking there with a little

smirk, did you look so innocent it to your wife's eye and lie to her about that? >> mr. chairman, that's outrageous. >> shame on you mr. chairman. >> mr. chairman, please. speak out is intolerable. >> it was a free-for-all and you heard that comment, do you need your medication? congressman louis gormley or, did you lose your attention or did you plan to bring out those life's decisions? >> no but as i sat there listening to him so smugly, and he lied repeatedly and he would still live. i'm telling you, the unfortunate thing is about that last exchange i have with him, it may have clouded over a very

important story and that is that he was told by the intelligence committee and inspector general investigator frank rucker that they had found an anomaly in the emails going to and from hillary clinton's unauthorized private server, and when they forensically examined the anomaly, they found embedded information and it was a foreign entity, not russia but a foreign entity that was getting every single one of her over 30,000 emails. >> brian: so you are saying that in hillary clinton's emails they were forwarded to someone else? >> yes. it was because they were hacked. the previous story was possible

it got hacked but there was no evidence that got hacked. then we find out and that's what i brought out today, the intelligence community ig brought it to their attention and they did nothing. nothing. and this is a a foreign entity, not related to russia in the least, that is having everyone -- there are only four of over 30,000 emails that they didn't get, they were going to and from. she compromise america's security. >> congressman one of the main people that questioned peter strzok today. thank you so much. >> thanks brian. >> brian: democrats took to their turn of questioning but obviously they had a very different turn. >> you are here and you are not taking the fifth. >> that's correct. >> did you consider it? >> no.

i've done nothing wrong. >> that was congressman eric swalwell of california and he joins us now after a marathon day. first off, your attack. are you to the belief that peter strzok is not or come in on his own and speak? did you see any merit to him being there? >> i think this is i didn't like those text either, i said before that if he was working for me, believed they have ever effected in the decisions he made and there were a lot of people making decisions in the investigation and we should prioritize our time in other directions. >> so congressman, the report on the other half of the investigation has not been out, just hillary texts. so you have to wonder, someone was going to investigate, i just want to make sure they don't have agenda against me.

if it said blank small well, he is at a disaster. i could smell the supporters and we will start referring to his candidacy for president. it turns out he's doing the investigating. at the very least, don't you feel it's contaminated, let alone should be examined? >> i don't believe it six contaminated in the sense that it wasn't valid but i do believe bob mueller did the right decision to pull him off the team. i was a prosecutor for seven years before coming to congress and i dealt with issues in the investigation. what i would do if there was a question about with the police officer did was i would try to corroborate the decisions they made. here he was not the one who set up the trump tower meeting. peter strzok was not the one who at donald trump's lawyer communicate with felix later and trying to arrange for putin and trump to meet, and when

donald trump told an audience, it russia if you are listening, if you are rewarded, you are able to get hillary's emails. >> if you could argue if you said something like that, you could be guilty of that. he was the one who interviewed michael flynn, he was who got a got a hold of the empty weiner laptop and also waited three weeks to tell john call me or andrew mccabe. he might have dealt somewhere with david corn who wrote russian roulette and others. so there are lots of questions, he's in the middle of everything, he's like zoellick. >> absolutely. however i don't want to make a more significant than he is. on michael flynn, he pled guilty. he pled guilty and was cooperating. i also wanted to point out, he

said he is not the sole investigator to open the of trump russia investigation. i think as the public learns more about what we saw in the house intelligence committee and more evidence that bob mueller is reviewing, they will have a lot of confidence in the work that the fbi did to start this investigation and hopefully close it soon. >> right. and you did say something else. right in the beginning, when things got totally out of control and we didn't have enough cameras to cover all 72 of you, we said, wait a second, let's bring steve bannon back in. we need to question him. could you ground that and where did that come from? >> that actually set the bell off in my head because i remember mr. gaudi asking mr. bannon in our house intelligence investigation questions that mr. bannon refused to answer. mr. bannon was under a subpoena but the republicans refuse to

hold him in contempt. so i thought if we were truly answering and getting answers that witnesses refused to answer then we should subpoena mr. bannon. of course, they voted against that. interestingly though, trey gowdy did not vote while he was president and the hearing. >> i also think beyond a shadow of a doubt in terms of his questions and his insight, they called up the president wants and said mr. president, if you are innocent, act like it. i think this is about as good as it is. and lisa page is coming in friday around 1:30 p.m. what questions do you have for her that might be different than you have for peter strzok? >> i think we are putting our priorities in the wrong direction with family separated. but i would want to corroborate what i learned from mr. strzok which was that there were many individuals involved in closing and opening the investigation and making sure this is not

limited to get over the fact that you can't get past the bias that they put in black-and-white. if i wrote a script about an investigation they would hand this back to me and say, it's too deliberate. give me some new ones. these text messages were so egregious we almost had to have a day like this eventually. always appreciate your insight and one of the most interesting people to talk to in washington. meanwhile congressman trey gowdy also one of those interesting people in washington. confirmed bias against trump during the 2016 election. >> you are eight days into your russian collision with the trump campaign investigation and you got another from your colleague at lisa page. trump is not ever going to become president.

and you replied no, no he's not. we will. it. >> what i can tell you is that text in no way suggested that i or the fbi would take any action to influence him. that is a fantastic answer to a question that nobody asked. >> it was the existence of your bias that got you kicked off. >> it is not my understanding that he kicked me off because of any bias because it was done on based on the appearance. i don't appreciate what was originally -- i don't appreciate having an fbi agent with an unprecedented level of animus working on two major investigations in 2016. >> did you pull your foot off of the gasparilla clinton and did you go ahead and scrub the donald trump investigation? joining us now is a former deputy assistant of the fbi

counterterrorism division. he joins us. first off i have to ask you, because the fbi look bad today? >> the fbi looks bad unfortunately because peter strzok looks even worse. maybe we could start rebuilding or regain the trust of the american public. ed actually got worse. you see very clearly not just the bias that he took into this case but, what really hurts and is something i never saw in 30 years in the fbi, which is kind of this disdain and contempt for what i think is the american public in general. i have never seen that in the fbi and fbi agents and fbi employees usually get along, they are out there getting around everybody. but when you start calling people deplorable and going to walmart and text message that people smelled, he didn't explain any of that. you just can't be that way and be in the fbi. and remember, he's not just any fbi agent. i know the democrats at the

committee want people to think that, listed he had nature say in the decisions on the course of these cases and in fact he had a major say and everybody working for him and of the morale of people and their own attitudes. you cannot lead and have this attitude, and you cannot tell me that he was withholding what he felt about all these things. just do do not buy that. >> brian: what about this, bob mueller gets rid of peter strzok but never told him what the reason was. he ends up in human resources from the fourth most powerful person to human resources and he's not even curious why. >> at one of the problems brian in washington, d.c., and not just in this case, nobody had a certain level of human kids with anyone. so i can buy off on that, that mueller said, goodbye. this is one of the reasons we are sitting here today. people at a certain level like

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>> brian: for some reason democrats were eager to show support for peter strzok during today's hearing.

state: compared him to american soldiers are killed or wounded in the line of duty saying he deserved a purple heart for his efforts in answering questions. and at one point when peter strzok went on and expanded on the explanation of his actions, they burst out into applause. >> it wasn't in no way in a critically suggesting that me, the fbi, it would take any action whatsoever to improperly impact the electoral process. and it's it deeply corrodes what the fbi is an american society, and it's deeply distracted. >> mr. chairman, i have a motio motion. >> brian: where does the applause come from? and kim strassel joins us now.

by the way, you got voice mail if you called her today because she watched like i did all day and was riveted by it. was his comments after trey gowdy's questions worthy of applause in the household? >> of course not. there has been deep destruction from the fbi that much of it has come from the text messages that has been exposed and shown that we have fbi agents at the exhibit this degree of animus but while working on presidential campaign investigations. >> so you have him going through this thing there is no bias. there are other people below and above him that would have checked him had he tried anything, so there were people below to overcome his bias. by the way, if you think there was no plan, what about the insurance plan reference never explained? what about, we will stop him, won't we? yes we will. he doesn't even remember writing that. >> this was an incredibly

disingenuous answer that he gave about the checks above and below. first of all we know from james comey that he wasn't involved and many in the leadership were not involved with the day-to-day investigation decisions here. that's why peter strzok was a lead investigator. on any given day at any given moment he would have been and could have been and was making independent decisions that influence the course of this investigation. so obviously, he has the ability to take actions that wouldn't have been questioned and might have been motivated by bias, most likely work. >> james comey was basically the king and this, he didn't do any of the work, he just took the copy. he was the one with the sleeves rolled up doing the investigating rachel or and michael flynn, and pushing it forward. he wanted me to bring it to jim jordan's questioning of peter strzok. he was relentless in pushing to find out about his role with the

dossier and what bruce ohr's role was doing. and of course he is with the fbi and his wife worked for the group that got the dossier to begin with. so let's listen to this exchange. >> are there three copies of the dossier as evidence as you said an email? >> the buzz feet copy, the mccain copy and the when you got. >> we have received a variety of copies. >> when agent strzok won't answer fundamental questions like the guy he references in an email company won't tell me where they are, it's unbelievable. >> he cowrote russian roulette and then you have some sin from fusion gps. so how significant is it that those names turn out and in fbi investigation email? >> it's very important. if anyone deserves a medal today

it was jim jordan for relentlessly pursuing this. so much so -- the fbi was advising mr. struct not to answer any questions but jordan was hitting this so hard that even the council backed down in the end and gave strzok position to provide modest information. what he did give was important and now we have more questions about how many versions of this dossier were actually out there. did he have a copy that was different than the ones that were released to the press? did he have his own method of communication with fusion gps, because he was using these people's names in the email? but more importantly, we find out that bruce or, married to nelly or who worked for the fusion gps was indeed serving as a conduit between that opposition research firm and the fbi passing along information from the group that had been hired by the hillary clinton campaign. >> which he never admitted that he knew.

he even said, i don't know if hillary clinton paid for it, what do you mean you didn't know? james comey have the same answer and that's terrible investigation if you don't know where your intelligence is coming from. kim, are you writing tomorrow? >> i am, not on this but it's on taxes. thanks so much. we appreciated. >> brian: 's rights for "the wall street journal" which i get for free. we will have more on the show down right after the break. we are wrapping up 12 hours of testimony and only the tucker carlson show can do it. keep your fingers crossed, i keep your fingers crossed, i think they can.s you'll ask... what pain? with advil liqui-gels this one's below market price and has bluetooth.

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>> brian: republicans and democrats clashing on capitol hill today to the nth degree as they grilled fbi agent peter strzok. and when they weren't yelling at strzok, the lawmakers were yelling at each other over the rules. for example. >> what rules are we following that would dictate such an answer by you? >> we are following the rules of the committee. >> can you cite the role? >> known. >> can you share with us -- the gentleman rule is not in order. >> it's going to be tough for me to get through it if i keep getting interrupted. >> every time he got on a roll some one would scream something out.

he's got such a rich military background, you did keep your composure. congressman, thanks for joining us. you focused on the code of conduct and you've zeroed in on the fact that you have a phone that belongs to government and you are texting lisa page. hillary clinton has to get -- of the people who vote for him smell and are ignorant. so this is going back and forth. did he say that was within the code of conduct for the fbi? >> he repeatedly claimed he violated nothing according to the policies. and his own personal moral concept which is laid out in the ig report. >> he also said the ig report said no bias. i regret doing those text messages but it didn't affect my investigation. >> and that's not the case at all. in some fact horowitz said he he

had a clear, highest mind-set and also in the case of the laptop that they had no confidence that he did not have bias in doing the decision. so they said he had bias in decision-making. we heard repeatedly today the opposite from the other side of the of the island from the witness himself under oath. that was not the case. >> do you take your foot off the gas for the hillary clinton investigation? by the way he is they are interrogating hillary clinton on the fourth of july weekend in that summer, and he's also there for michael flynn. there were reports that he did not believe michael flynn was lying yet they've let him drive financially and he had no choice but to cut a deal. then he is there when he finds the anthony weiner laptop, the fbi bureau does, and they see all these emails originally from hillary clinton. his decision to delay kelly call me could have done more damage

than anything else. >> this is one thing that the ig report hones in on. they did think that the delay clearly showed a bias, and when we see that text messages and his own personal conduct, he was biased and he was in violation despite his assertions today. >> in the past you have focused on the so-called informants or as president trump says, spies. like the cambridge professor, the one who tried to bring out carter page and papadopoulos. do you pursue that avenue to find out how many other people were victims perhaps of informants working for the fbi, as contractors? >> one of the things that we want to get to along those lines is, if we get the chance to talk to lisa page. these are the types of things that we would like to know more about so this thing is not done. they talk about, this thing has gone on too long, why are we doing this, well i will tell you why. our law enforcement agencies have to be trusted by the american people, and if we can't

trust them then we lose our institutions. it doesn't matter how long it takes. abraham lincoln said nothing good can be frustrated by time, we have to get to the bottom of it. >> brian: i don't want anyone to investigate me with something like present on the line or my presidency, if they hate my guts. these people hated the presidents in every way, shape and form. straight ahead, while today's capitol hill drama was unfolding, new messages between peter strzok and lisa page were released. what did they reveal? we will tell you, next. what? where's that coming from? i don't know. i started my 401k early, i diversified... i'm not a big spender. sounds like you're doing a lot. but i still feel like i'm not gonna have enough for retirement. like there's something else i should be doing. with the right conversation, you might find you're doing okay. so, no hot dog suit? not unless you want to. no. schedule a complimentary goal planning session today

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the unlikely event you die before you are 40. i can't pull away, what the f happened to our country? >> he occasionally had a clear memory especially when he was asked to read his text out loud to come but he and other times it was surprising how fuzzy his memory was, like when he was asked about softening and fbi statement to benefit hillary clinton. >> the meta data shows that you that you modified their draft statement on june 6th. is this when the phrase "grossly negligent" was changed to extremely careless? >> i don't recall it specifically when it happened? >> it wasn't your computer that but the change into the statement? >> based on my subsequent review of the net metadata i believe that to be true. >> and who has access to your computer, anybody but you? >> up my had access to elements

of it. >> tom fenton made it happen with his for your request. tom, first off, your take of what you saw today. >> it was a bit of a circus and it ought to only be the beginning in terms of getting information out of the justice department and fbi. i don't understand why the mueller operation is still going on given the information that's peter strzok admitted to. this is evidence of corruption, and a senior fbi official wanting to direct investigation a certain way to target a political component. and we also had mr. mueller involved in this corruption, he had to remove strzok because of the corruption and asking questions about how he is managing his investigation and the evidence of bias and corruption with his team that is still undermining the credibility of the entire

justice department and fbi that he's using to target trump. >> brian: i understand you got some emails and text messages today, what did they say? >> they show communications between page and strzok. we had to sue to get the records, the fbi and justice department wanted to take up to two years to give us statements, so they are giving them in drips and drives. and he is cursing everyone out. he's cursing decisions about the fbi, making fun of colleagues, and they show that mr. strzok was quite truthful in my view in the ways he communicated with lisa page about how he was analyzing what the fbi was doing. we wouldn't be getting these text messages and emails if they were personal, by law. the reason we are seeing them is because the government email,

anyone who says personal political beliefs, if that were the case we would be seeing them. >> you say we have more, he also went out of his way in his personal message to try to explain away his behavior. did he do it effectively to you? >> no he didn't. your listeners, the viewers, are going to have to decide whether to take his word that the bias impacted the investigations. the ig didn't believe it and mr. muller didn't believe it, why should anyone else believe it? the facts are what they are and he tried to spin them and we have to decide as adults what to do with this evidence. and the involvement of several other fbi officials fought like him in directing it and creating it. >> you are welcome.

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glad you are watching. this week's nato is a brussels summit is contentious, and last week's summit was no big deal but it seems to have ended well. for us the president vowed that his tone on nato would not change once he left the summit. for example. >> will you be tweeting differently once you board air force one? >> know that's other people that

do that, i don't. i'm consistent. i'm not consistent genius. >> the president is in england for a working visit and already met with theresa may for a gala dinner. the executive director of the henry jackson society joins us right now. lots to report. first off, the president said through sarah sanders, i like and respect theresa may, she was very good to me during nato. thanks for all hospitality. she will be in scotland soon and then onto vladimir putin. how do you feel about how this visit has gone? >> so far i think it's been a typically interesting trip by the president. he moved the needle on the fence expenditure, but also more importantly saying how he personally believes the alliance is an important one. so that is positive. he arrived in the u.k. and he made some comments about brexit, and he's gone to a very serious gala dinner where he met our

business leaders and began discussions on how we can forge a trade agreement between the two countries. it started in a typically whirlwind of style, and i expect it to continue in that as well. >> brian: so the headline is, i told may and the u.s. trade deal is off if she basically doesn't get it right and leaves the e.u. what are the ramifications of that statement? >> i think it's important to firstly note what the president said what his understanding is at this moment in time. it looks like it would be an e.u. deal and if that was the case, the u.s. would be able to do a trade deal. i suspect as the visit continues we may get as with the nato summit a very different statement and may be convinced

it is possible to do a trade deal. so let's start from that point. however it is a very real and very significant political development that he's put in writing essentially that he thinks at present this deal is not going to make sense for britain, or in deed for the u.s. it's a significant political blow for the prime minister and we can't diminish that. we want we have vladimir putin next and nato is worried, and i don't think there is a reason to worry about much like that. do you think this will be a positive meeting? >> i think it will certainly be again an interesting meeting. here you have the two leaders meeting essentially one on one for the first time. i think you were right to suggest that there won't be major agreements made or surprises coming out of it. so i think it's really a question of how they get on and indeed if there is a possibility of getting to a place where they can both come to an agreement going down the line. >> brian: it's unbelievable. now you guys have the trump machine and of the tornado, you

are in the middle of all that news that we get on a regular basis. ella mendoza, thanks so much. meanwhile, straight ahead of him even peter strzok couldn't drive this creepy foreign lawyer out of the news cycle. we have an update on his latest movements because his client went to jail. tempur-breeze mattress today and enjoy $500 off... or a free adjustable base upgrade. experience the most highly recommended bed in america today. find your exclusive retailer at tempurpedic.com.

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nigel faraj and listen to me on radio from nine until noon, the brian kilmeade show on xm sirius 450. since sean hannity is next and a special thanks to tucker for letting me be here. >> sean: i'm in london, and by the way i know you have to be up in six hours, no excuse if you are a minute late. we will be monitoring. >> brian: i've got it. these six welcome to hannity. we are in london where president trump just wrapped up his first official visit right here to the united kingdom. we will have more on that in just a moment. but first what was an incredible day in our nation's capital, fireworks all over capitol hill. this is an historic day in so many ways. disgraced anti-trump fbi agent peter strzok was in the hot seat and tonight we are just finally beginning to