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world sees so often, our president of the united states pulling interview now. we can hear the choppers ahead during our coverage last hour here on fox news channel. in we knew that the chopper had arrived and now we know that the president is on the ground and headed here. the queen of england has met 11 of 12 u.s. presidents during her reign. and she has hosted more controversial figures than ever including syrian president bashar al-assad. now she is face-to-face with the man who just left nato in his own words in a very strong fashion talking tough to the members of our nato allies about paying their fair share in defense. the queen however says she doesn't do politics. that's not what the royal family does. so this will be all about tradition. with two people iconic in the world for leadership right now. martha maccallum is they are outside the and martha, this is a beautiful sight, this is a
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momentous site in history. >> indeed it is, and we know that president trump is looking forward to this moment very much. we also have talked to people who say that the queen has been long curious about mr. trump and that is also looking forward to meeting him. as you just pointed out, she has entertained a myriad of leaders in this amazing capital behind us that's been here for 900 years. william the conqueror chose the spot overlooking the thames. it also is a favorite place of queen elizabeth and there they are. go ahead. >> harris: i was going to step in, didn't want to miss the moment that we were watching there, the queen with the president and the first lady they are, first of all, a photo op and as you were talking about, the history, i just wanted to interject with the current and arguably the future because this conversation is going to go from here, a lot happening in london with the
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>> harris: in the countryside of england outside of windsor castle, uc queen elizabeth the second there has just finished what they call an inspection of the guard of honor, and in the march path by the military guard with our president and first lady by her side and now the greeting continues and i want to bring in martha maccallum, the host of "the story." your nearby here and able to take in some more color for us. >> was obviously a spectacular day here and you can see queen elizabeth waiting under that tented area, it's fairly
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hot but at 92, she is an amazing monarch, and she is in great shape. she walked up and down inspecting the guards that she has done so many times. but obviously, this is the first time for president trump, and he has said that this meeting of the meetings he's had this week is probably going to be the least stressful that he's had including nato and the meetings he had with theresa may. the queen will be very clear about not discussing things like brexit. she doesn't want to talk about any of that with the president although over the course of her reign, she will in private discuss politics with the prime minister's, and has met with all of them on a regular weekly basis during the course of her reign but this is really sort of a very formal get to know you moment and should only last about 40 minutes and inside. they will have tea as the british like to do and there will probably be in the oak room or the queen's private sitting room, the two areas that she tends to entertain presidents
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and leaders. but obviously, very special moment and i think probably a bit of a relief for donald trump. >> harris: it's an interesting way to put it. a beautiful day and americans making news across london at wimbledon. we have two of them now. this fox news alert, we knew this was coming. at deputy attorney general rod rosenstein holding a news conference right now for law enforcement. let's watch and listen. >> one of those defendants and a russian military officer are charged with conspiring to infiltrate computers of organizations involved in administrating including state boards of election, secretaries of state, and companies that supply software used to administer elections. according to the allegations in the indictment, the defendants worked for two units of the main intelligence directorate of the russian general staff known as the gr you. the units engaged in active
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cyber operations to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. there was one unit that engaged in active cyber operations by stealing information in a different unit that was responsible for disseminating the stolen information. the defendants used to techniques to steal information. first, they used a scheme known as spearfishing which involves sending misleading email messages and tricking the users into disclosing their passwords and security information. second, the defendants hacked into computer networks and installed malicious software that allowed them to spy on users and capture keystrokes, take screenshots, and infiltrate or room remove data from those computers. the defendants access email accounts of volunteers and employees of a u.s. presidential campaign. including the campaign chairman
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starting in march of 2016. they also hacked into the computer networks of a congressional campaign committee and a national political committee. the defendants covertly monitor the computers and planted hundreds of files containing malicious computer code and soul emails and other documents. the conspirators created fictitious online personas including d.c. weeks. and they used those personas to release information including thousands of stolen emails and other documents. beginning in june of 2016. the defendants falsely claimed that d.c. leaks was a group of american hackers and that it was a lone romanian hacker. in fact, both were created and controlled by the russian gru.
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the defendants transferred stolen documents to another organization that is not identified by name in the indictment and they use that organization as a pass-through to release the documents. we discussed the timing of the release in an attempt to enhance the impact on the election. in an effort to conceal their connections to russia, the defendants used a network of computers around the world and they paid for it using cryptocurrencies. the conspirators corresponded with several americans during the course of the conspiracy through the internet. there is no allegation in this indictment that the americans knew they were corresponding with russian intelligence officers. in a second related conspiracy, russian gru officers hacked the web site of a state election board and still information of 500,000 voters.
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they also hacked into computers of the company that supply software used to verify voter registration information. they targeted state and local officials responsible for administering elections and they sent spearfishing emails to people involved in administering elections including attaching malicious software. the indictment includes 11 criminal allegations and a forfeiture allegation, count one charges 11 defendants for conspiring to access computers without authorization. and the damage of those computers in an effort to interfere with the presidential election. counsel to go through nine charge them with aggravated identity theft by employing the usernames and passwords of victims in order to commit to pewter fraud. count ten charges those 11 defendants with money laundering for transferring cryptocurrencies through a web
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of transactions in order to purchase computer servers, register domains, and make other payments and furtherance of their hacking activities while trying to conceal their connections to russia. count 11 charges to defendants for separate conspiracy to access computers without authorization and to damage those computers in connection with efforts to infiltrate computers used to administer elections. finally, the indictment seeks a forfeiture of property involved in the criminal activity. there is no allegation in this indictment that any american citizen committed a crime. there is no allegation that the conspiracy changed the vote count or affected any election result. the special counsel investigation is ongoing and there will be no comments on a special counsel at this time. assistant attorney general is here with me today because we intend to transition
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responsibility for this indictment to the justice department's national security division while we await the apprehension of the defendants. principal associate at o'callaghan's with me and he has been assisting in managing the investigation. i want to caution you, people who speculate about federal investigations usually do not know all of the relevant facts. we do not try cases on television or in congressional hearings. most anonymous leaks are not from the government officials who were actually conducting these investigations. we follow the rule of law which means that we follow procedures and we reserve judgment. we complete our investigations and we evaluate all of the relevant evidence until we reach a conclusion. if that is how the american
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people expect their department of justice to operate and that is how our department is going to operate. our justice system, everyone who is charged with the crime is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. it should go without saying the people who are not charged with a crime also are presumed innocent. if the indictment was returned today because prosecutors determined that the evidence was sufficient to present these allegations to a federal grand jury. our analysis is based solely on the facts of law and department of justice policies. i briefed president trump about these allegations earlier this week. the president is fully aware of the department's actions today. on my remarks, i have not identified the victims.
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we confront foreign interference in american elections, it's important for us to avoid thinking politically as republicans or democrats and instead to think patriotically as americans. our response must not depend on which side is victimized. the internet allows foreign adversaries to attack america in new and unexpected ways. free and fair elections are always hard-fought and contentious. there will always be adversarie adversaries. who seek to exacerbate our divisions and try to confuse, divide, and congress. so long as we are united in our commitment to the values in the constitution, they will not succeed. a partisan warfare fueled by modern technology does not fairly reflect the grace,
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dignity, and unity of the american people. the blame for election interference belongs to the criminals who committed. we need to work together to hold the perpetrators accountable and we need to keep moving forward to preserve our values, protect against future interference and defend america. i have time to take a few questions. >> number one, the timing today of the presidents meeting with putin, can you talk about that and just today, the president described the mueller investigation as a witch hunt. speak of the investigation is a function of the collection of the facts, the evidence of the law and the determination to present the indictment at this time. as i mentioned, i did brief the president with regard to the nature of the investigation. i only comment on the evidence.
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the evidence that is reflected in our indictments and our charges represents a determination by prosecutors and agents without regard to politics that we believe the evidence is sufficient to justify the charges. >> i know you've talked about the fact that your view of the evidence doesn't show any votes were changed as a result of this hacking. but you did say that a company coordinated with these defendants, the timing of the release and the impact of the election. can you talk about what the evidence you have shows in that respect? >> but i talked about today is what is alleged in the indictment. we know according to the allegations in the indictment, the goal of the conspirators is to have an impact in the elections. what impact they may have had or what their motivation may have been independently of what is required to prove this offense is a matter of speculation. if that is not our responsibility. what i said as there is no allegation indictment about it
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and that is not our charge. >> in terms of the states election information, 500,000 voters information collected, was there any evidence what the russians did with that information and is there any evidence of other states being successfully penetrated by the russians? >> it's important for you to understand what i told you about the allegations that are included in the indictment, the fbi and other intelligence community agencies are working constantly, this case is about one particular effort that was made during the 2016 election. the efforts of our department and the department of homeland security and other federal agencies involved in the state and election board throughout the country are ongoing and those efforts preceded with this indictment they're going to postdate this indictment so we have to continue to share any relevant intelligence with all of our partners. there is a concerted and organized effort by the federal
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government to make sure that we do deter and prevent any cyber attacks on our elections and that we harden our election systems to prevent against any kind of intrusions. >> you mentioned that you briefed president trump earlier this week. did he indicate any support of this action and what was his reaction? >> i will let the president speak for himself. obviously, it is important for the president no what information we have uncovered. he needs to understand what evidence we have a foreign election interference. thank you very much. >> harris: deputy attorney general rod rosenstein talking about looking at a russian meddling in the headline that you saw him just wrapping up there was the president of the united states ahead of his europe trip was told about this. he was briefed on it and he is fully aware of what is happening today. 12 people named in this
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indictment, not by name but what they do if you will. no indication that americans knew that they were having any kind of dealings with these russians who were on the internet under assumed identities. in effect, two of the nine charges or aggravated identity theft. they called themselves d.c. leaks. they were looking to burst into the scene if you will and to meddle in our elections according to the deputy attorney general with two techniques, spearfishing by sending emails and trying to target people's passwords and trying to trick people into giving up information. then the other way was to hack into computer networks and spy on users and try to hit certain keystrokes and see what they could figure out. they are seeking the forfeiture of all of the materials like computer servers and whatnot in this. end of rosenstein, just one last thing, says this is now being turned over to the national security division at doj. charlie hurt on the couch with us today, your impression?
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>> charlie: thank goodness. this is the russia investigation that we need. it's the russian investigation we've needed all along. the effort to thwart russia that should have been going on under the administration when it was actually happening, unfortunately the truth has been so politicized by people trying to smear donald trump that we lose sight of this very important issue. the one thing that i thought was interesting, rod rosenstein at the end of that after giving a very good charge of what they were doing, i'm thrilled that they were doing this. at the end, he goes off into this lecture about politics. >> harris: i wonder if it's not part of what you said because this is so politicized and as he was talking about, our response must not be based on who benefits or who is harmed by interference in our elections. i'm paraphrasing a bit but that was the bottom line. >> rachel: he did say the blame is on on the russians indicted, not on anybody else.
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which says is not an obama as you mentioned, this happened under obama's watch. so that is something some of the other important thing he did say is it did not impact the election. the outcome of it. and the other important thing is there still no evidence that donald trump's campaign colluded with the russians in this. i think those are two very important things. we spent millions of dollars and two years trying to find even a scrap of evidence about that. >> harris: now we know they did something. i'm going to say it again. no indication that americans knew whom they were necessarily dealing. >> dagen: there were still a recklessness on behalf of the clinton campaign and also the democratic national committee. we should point out that debbie wasserman schultz had a statement at the ready who was running the dnc at the time and of course, she brings up despite donald trump's dangerous distortions and his refusal to
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acknowledge the conclusions reached by the american intelligence community, one thing we also know from former fbi director james comey is that the fbi never got actual access to the servers and at the dnc. the dnc would not hand them over to the fbi. we went and we think that they were hacked? when there been some interesting reasons? >> dagen: what they did was the dnc called a third-party to come in and go through the servers rather than handing them over to the fbi. some at the beginning of last year, comey said we've got the forensics from the pros that they hired which again, best practice is always to get access to the machines themselves. >> harris: that's what rosenstein is saying he wants now, forfeiture of all of those computer networks and servers. >> melissa: if i could just jump in, one of the most important things about what we just saw here is that this is coming right ahead of that
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meeting with president putin. in the president was asked earlier today when he was in that press conference are you going to bring up the idea of russian meddling in the election? and he said absolutely i'm going to bring it up, but i don't think he's going to admit to it. i'm paraphrasing. i don't think we're going to have the perry mason moment where he jumps up and said you've got me, you're right, and meddled in the election but he is saying here is proof of exactly what the russians did and i think that by virtue of rosenstein putting a button on it saying now let's not get political because where this conversation breaks down is when it immediately people jump to yes, they meddled in the election for the benefit of this one and against that one and this one knew. he doesn't want the second part of that conversation to begin, let us all agree that the russians meddled, it's a problem, we need to take it to them and say it. >> rachel: the russians have
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always meddled in election, this is not a big new thing that happened under trump. they meddle in all elections and it's bad and we need to deal with it. >> harris: how should we deal with it? >> rachel: this is a good step in bringing awareness towards it. we need to look at what obama did or didn't do during that period of time. we need to get that server. you brought up such a great point. if >> dagen: clearly they have enough information to bring these indictments today. the one thing i will point out is the director of national intelligence and we've heard this over and over and over again, but we've heard it this year again that the cyber threat is our greatest national security risk. it's not any individual nation. and i think that is ultimately up to the people who run campaigns, political organizations, and private corporations that we've got to do a lot more. >> harris: you heard rosenstein talking about that and he said when you couple what
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they want to do to us and to our democracy against -- when you couple that with anybody's political or partisan motivation, it gets to be something that is not just counterproductive but perhaps risky to our own national intelligence. >> charlie: i thought was interesting that the question that got asked of him was somebody called out asking on whose orders was this done? clearly trying to get rosenstein to say something about putin's of that be used in talks between trump and putin. >> harris: does this help the president? as he sits down with president putin of russia, now is not going to be all of the intelligence agencies who said whatever, i know it's going to be no, 12 of your military officers have been indicted in my nation. >> charlie: i think it does help trump and i think the reason it helps trump in a political sense, it helps with the meeting but helps in a political sense because this is the russia case that we should all be concerned about and it's important. when he takes that seriously,
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i'm going to ask questions about it. it shows how serious he is compared to this other thing, the russian whatever thing about trump and collusion and all this nonsense that the democrats cannot let go of and so many people in the media cannot let go of. the contrast between the two of this guy being serious. >> harris: as they pointed out, there is evidence for this. >> rachel: the campaigns were never told that the russians were trying to hack. why weren't they informed that the obama administration knew? why weren't the campaigns told to be extra cautious because of this happening? >> melissa: that's a great question. as we mentioned this announcement from ag rosenstein coming just ahead of the president's summit with vladimir putin today, he gave us a taste of what we can expect on monday in helsinki.
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>> be going strong, we will be talking to president putin about a number of things. ukraine, will be talking about syria, will be talking about other parts of the middle east, i will be talking about nuclear proliferation. i know you'll ask what would be talking about meddling? and i will absolutely bring that up. i don't think he'll have any i did it, you got me. there won't be a perry mason here but you never know what happens. i will absolutely firmly asked the question and hopefully, we'll have a very good relationship with russia. >> melissa: that's pretty unmistakable. republicans while cautious are generally voicing support for the meeting but most democrats say the sit down only benefits putin i will not stop russia's hostile acts towards the u.s. watch this. >> he's going to go and talk to putin of where we will have absolutely no idea what he
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talked about, what he promised, what was exchanged. i think that is a very scary prospect because let's remember, russia is not our ally. >> melissa: meantime, a new fox news poll finds 53% of voters think president trump is not tough enough on russia including 32% of republicans, but the fox poll also found a clear majority, 59% of voters believe the president should meet with putin. let me ask you first because it's so insulting for politicians who should know better and should know that this is the way presidents have met with russian leaders in the past one on one with a translator, it's one thing for pundits or for people trying to stir controversy to say they're going to be alone and no one will know, maybe he will promise this and that in the other thing about for politicians, shouldn't they have at least cracked a history book somewhere along the line to know that this is the way it's normally done? >> charlie: i think the
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problem here is so many are caught up in this wild conspiracy theory and their gaining from it clinically, so they just keep fanning the flames of it and it's incredibly destructive. and that fox news poll, it was totally interesting but the thing to remember, of course people don't think that trump is being tough enough on putin. they get told by the media that 17,000 times a day. i do think at the end of the day, it's sort of a meaningless number. the idea that donald trump is not tough enough on putin is absurd on the face of it especially when you look at him confronting germany about the gas line from russia to germany. i'm sorry, how does that help putin? how was that cozying up to puti putin? >> harris: came out of the summit that they just had was not lenient on russia. >> charlie: also, donald trump's efforts to promote nato and to promote
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these. >> harris: do you think it's a flip of what he says when he talks about? >> charlie: everything he says, they say the opposite? >> harris: in terms of use that respect for the power of putin and he did say is things that are perhaps more flowery than his actions would convey because clearly with the communiqué he's ready to act. >> rachel: his political opponents here and many members of the media don't have enough schoolyard sends to know he's doing it to taunt you. to send you into a swirl of hysteria, of drinking insanity. that's all they can talk about. >> melissa: its words versus action. and i keep saying this all the time. the left is about words, the right is about action. if you look at his words, he is saying one thing but as theresa may said, he was the one that stepped in and expelled the most diplomats after the point in the scandal. he was the one that stood the hardest. he has the one that put
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sanctions on russia. they are the ones that are channeling money their way through the pipeline and doing business and then getting on the board of gas to get personal benefit from it. words versus actions. >> dagen: and he's tried to ramp up energy production in this country which gives us the greatest tool to defend ourselves against russia. you drive down the price of oil and gas and you stick it to putin and all of his. >> harris: they said they could buy some of this energy from us. if there were other places where germany could purchase this. >> rachel: he sang right at you to come to north dakota? they didn't invade crimea, buy it from the united states, where the number one oil producers. but he also sold lethal antitank weapons to your crane. if there's lots of things he's done that has ticked off the russians but the media doesn't report it and the stupid
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democrats leaders don't want to follow the actions versus the words. >> melissa: former fbi attorney lisa page facing lawmakers on capitol hill. behind closed doors, just one day after her lover peter strzok faced blistering attacks from joint committees. the republicans get the answers they demand or once again, wind up unsatisfied? george woke up in pain. but he has plans today. hey dad. so he took aleve. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. aleve. all day strong.
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>> dagen: embattled former fbi lawyer lisa page is set to appear on capitol hill any moment for a closed-door deposition before joint house committees just one day after a very contentious public hearing with her anti-trump texting partner, fbi agent peter strzok. g.o.p. lawmakers unleashing blistering attacks against strzok during that hearing is democrats accused republicans of playing up their outrage in an attempt to discredit the russia investigation. watch this. >> i've talked to fbi agents
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around the country. he even embarrass them, you've embarrassed yourself, and i can't help but wonder when i see you looking there was a little smirk how many times did you look so innocent into your wife's eyes and lied to her about lisa page? >> mr. chairman, it's outrageou outrageous. it's become mister, please. >> you need your medication. >> if i could give you a purple heart, i would. you deserve one. this has been an attack on you in a way to attack mr. mueller and the investigation to get at russia, collusion involved in our election. they go mr. chairman, with the witness be permitted to answer? >> if it's so frustrating, answer the question. >> it's not over and you and future witnesses are on notice that future answers are expected
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promptly. >> dagen: steve schooley's slamming democrats over their handling of that hearing. >> i think it was embarrassing that the democrats were trying to be cheerleaders for agent strzok trying to cover for him and if you see throughout the hearing, they weren't trying to get to the bottom and get to the facts that the american people want to know about. they were trying to throw up any kind of roadblock so that strzok didn't have to answer questions. that something that they ought to look out internally in terms of what kind of message that sense of the country that they're trying to cover for the scandal. >> dagen: one top house republicans telling fox news that they like the hearing a "disaster for both sides." charlie, despite doing his best trying to get religion on peter strzok. >> charlie: it's a fair point, but whatever. >> dagen: they are trying to get to the bottom of this. why was the investigation of the
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trump campaign launched in the first place? and for that gentleman to sit there and say i am not biased is just pure poppycock. he wouldn't get picked for a jury for pete's sake. >> charlie: imagine how this case gone to trial and in all of this came out afterwards. if there's not a jury in america that would not overturn a conviction based on the clear bias that he showed. but now going into this thing, they succeeded. if they did a good job of interrupting a lot of it. but there were a couple things that i thought came out they were pretty interesting. one was trey gowdy got to the point that a very important point that strzok on at least two occasions use the word impeachment before he had an interview a single witness in the case and the other one was pointing out that it was
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actually peter strzok's computer and that only he had access to that managed to get the wording changed. >> dagen: all that another thing, and by the way, i listened to all almost ten hours of this in the car. >> charlie: i had to stop with what he said. i couldn't deal with that. >> dagen: peter strzok testified that bob mueller never asked him about spit specific , why? >> melissa: interesting. the one that struck me as this is who they were asking, why did you turn from the email investigation over to look at russia? and he went on this long tirade, sanctimonious about the russia investigation and said if they were people within the campaign colluding or working with the russian government, there is very little that would be of more importance. here's the key part. frankly, any presidential candidate that might have that going on in their campaign would
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want to know that's going on. and have the fbi gets the bottom of it. the obvious follow-up, so any campaign would want to know? so did you tell that candidate? know. we know he didn't. and of course, it was a democrat that solicited that answer, they did not ask the follow-up and peter strzok himself said any campaign would want to know. >> harris: that point of the looks of the democrats had yesterday. this is not necessarily a good look for democrats. we had several of them on "outnumbered" overtime yesterday, and they were pointing to elijah cummings who in a moment of sobriety for the entire hearing i would say said "did you ever think that what you were doing actually would have the appearance of bias? "what were you thinking when you did this is what he was asking. i do remember that, that was like a generic question that anybody would want answered considering what is going on. tough day for democrats
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yesterday and at one point with some of them pounding on the desk and applauding, i don't know how much of that was per the rules, but it was odd. >> rachel: it was odd. we were all listening to it in the car on the way out, and we listen to it one of the best moments was when i believe the darrell issa forced him to read his really embarrassing texts. but the reason that was important is because is very simple to americans. they don't need to hear ten hours of it. they just say if i was being investigated, and my son was being investigated for something, what i want that person who wrote those things about the president investigating me or my family members and instantly, we don't need 20,000 questions from congressmen to decide that this guy is biased. >> dagen: the take away is also, i haven't talked to one person who thinks that peter strzok is going to pay any price for this. we found out yesterday, he still
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has security clearance. it goes back to bob mueller. he didn't ask him about bias. when we found out yesterday as they reinstated some of his clear and so he could look at some of the materials and actually drill down on one of the lawmakers because i wanted o get it straight to her. so he left, they had to fold back and some security clearance if you can look at some of the materials. but he still has it right now. >> dagen: we are here to tell you breaking news now, this fox news alert, we are looking live now outside of windsor. this is the castle where our president and first lady entered with queen elizabeth the second a few minutes ago. to be a fly on the wall in their meeting but they are they are on the inside. it's been more than 20 minutes or so, so as they emerge from windsor castle and the president gets set to first go to marine want to come aboard, and then off to air force one onto scotland, we may hear something, we will certainly bring you the
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live video of it happening, this is history in the making. their first official meeting. if this is not a state visit as you say where they spend the night at buckingham palace and all of that. but this is t, this is that first initial meeting. and what will they say when they emerge from that meeting? we are purged and ready to show it to you live right here on "outnumbered" a mistake was. ♪ motorcycle revving ♪motorcycle revving ♪ motorcycle revving ♪ no matter who rides point, ♪ there are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. ♪♪ and just like tyrone taylor, they know what it takes to help keep you protected. are you in good hands?
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>> melissa: we are showing you live right now, that is windsor castle and inside right now is queen elizabeth as well as the president and the first lady of the united states. they are having tea we are told and this is a photo from a short time ago inside this historic residence. did you know this is the longest occupied palace in all of europe built in the 11th century after william the conqueror arrived. now president trump and first lady melania trump are inside right now having tea with the queen. we watch them arrive with all of the pomp and circumstance, one group about pomp and circumstance, the other group sort of eats pomp and circumstance for breakfast but we will see how this goes. so far, so good. >> harris: it's fun to watch
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the situation just from an american perspective because we do do things differently. so we love this. this is very scripted. this is very traditional, he is not scripted. our president is not. but i think as a whole as a country, we kind of aren't either so it's kind of cool to see inside their walls, walking our walk. >> dagen: people who dislike president trump always talk about him as if he such a bore and uncouth and he doesn't know how to treat women and quite frankly, he's a businessman on the global stage. so of course he knows how to interact with people. if we are southern virginia, we pick you off the ground. i don't understand a lot about british protocol, but i did wonder why the new american duchess of sussex was not present. if she could have been a bridge,
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maybe if it had been a different president, she may have been present. >> harris: at this first initial meeting from what we know, this is not a state dinner, that is not a situation where it's a social call. the first one on one. i don't know if you need csi's meghan markle to be there. >> melissa: as we wait for the president and the first lady to emerge, we will keep an eye on it. more "outnumbered" in just a moment. crabfest is back at red lobster!
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>> all right, thank you so much to charlie hurt, what a great day to be on the couch. we will back here at noon on monday, here is harris. >> harris: stunning news breaking here in the special counsel's investigation as president trump continues his european tour. he is now in the united kingdom, we've been watching it, holding a news conference with the prime minister and meeting with queen elizabeth the second half and just moments ago. president trump just leaving windsor castle, where he and first lady melania trump had tea with queen elizabeth. next stop for them, scotland. ahead of the president tsai with vladimir putin, do to happen on monday. deputy attorney general rod
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