>> it sound like a it took you long time to get wherever you'r going. we are back glad you're back. >> it is great to be back. take that as if for us. >> you haven't someday. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> a fox news alerts, president trump meeting with members of his cabinet at the white house on the heels of that highly criticized summit with russian president vladimir putin days ago in helsinki. we will continue monitoring thi for any developments coming out of that meeting and we'll bring you his remarks just as soon as we get them. in the meantime this is outnumbered, i am melissa francis. hoese kennedy on that fox business network. join us on the couch for the first-time democratic strategis and former chief speechwriter and an advisor to hillary

clinton's presidential campaign and jake maccoby is here. he is wildly. we have outnumbered on every front. >> houston overtime a few times but this is a whole different thing. >> we will find out. >> pacing back and forth the last hour in the green room. you get the idea that i might b able to sit still for an hour. >> hope you had your adderall, honey. >> welcome. >> and an attempt to extend wit criticism from both sides of th political aisle, president trum admitting he misspoke on the subject of russia meddling in that summit with vladimir putin and reiterating his support for the intelligence community. >> inset edge insets and shut u ben i don't see any re- reason why it wouldn't be russia, and have felt fairly strongly while russia's actions had no impact at all on the outcome of the

election, let me be totally clear in saying that and that said this many times, i accept our intelligence communities conclusion that russia's meddling in the 2016 election. >> some lawmakers argue that that response is not enough. here is democratic congressman joe kennedy earlier today. >> look, every politician, ever person that speaks, that's fine. the rest of the tenor of that news conference with vladimir putin, there is no doubt about what he thought. his walk back yesterday, he wants back the walk back in the next sentence. this is a horrible thing to say the president of the united states have no credibility when it comes to this issue. >> but president trump again defending himself on twitter posting, while the nato meeting in brussels was an acknowledged triumph with billions of dollar more being put up by member

countries, at a faster pace, th meeting with russia may prove t be in the long run an even greater success. many positive things will come out of that meeting. does this help at all in the slightest? >> not really. i want to walk back his walk back for a second. i think one of the things we have to pay attention to is tha we keep calling it meddling, bu this was an attack on our democracy by foreign adversary. the idea that the president of the united states would respond to that first by praising the attacker and then denying the attack, then saying it was our own fault for being attacked in the first place, is nuts. by choosing one word and a pres conference, 24 hours later is not enough. >> it's not enough, but doesn't help at all? >> i don't think so. as congressman kennedy said he walked back his walk back in th very next sentence brady said i accept the conclusion of the community, but it could've bee

other people, there's a lot of people out there, his to say. >> the reason it's not working is because we're still talking about it and it still an entrée for democrats. republicans in congress have been told to be mindful of the response. the president is in the middle of a cabinet meeting. we will also see if there's further clarification there. i agree that russia did meddle in the election, there is no question about that. i also agree that there is some responsibility, not necessarily blame on the part of the united states, because we didn't have the proper defensive clout in regards to russia and their potential hackery. that is one thing that did happen under the obama administration. what i don't agree with in term of what the president said his that's not in the past, that is still very much ongoing and i think our government, our federal government has to have much more measured response we talk about how we're going to stop that from happening in the future.

i saw the bizarre interview wit chris wallace, he asked them some great questions, and there's no reason that he would tell the truth. there are a million reasons russia would screw around and all of this because of the gas, that's all they have. >> i think the bottom line is people are going to be critical of president trump regardless o what he says. but it wasn't his best press conference? perhaps not. he is not one that often comes back and says look, i was wrong and misspoke so i think we need to look at this, step back a little bit and wait to see what other information comes out of that to our meeting that we still don't know much about. >> to that . , where should the american people be willing to see lawmakers go on the issue of getting notes from the white house on this two and half hours ? that is such a precedent settin set of moves. i know we'll talk about it a little later. we were talking about the cabinet meeting going on.

so far, the meetings with nato have been talked about by the president calling those a tremendous success. at home he's talking about a booming economy and with the meeting he sang specifically they plan to focus on the important issue of workforce training. i don't see anything about the russia situation right now with the news conference in his comment, comments, but we're getting feedback and a sickly edge transcript feed from that meeting with the cabinet so. >> can i add one thing quickly. the news cycle is so fast, and this presidency is so intense that you know it. >> to the benefit were not talking about nato or theresa may and whether or not it was appropriate for the president t say that boris johnson would make a 8:00 p.m. sunday. so you have to wonder what the next big thing is that will com along to eclipse the story. >> that's a great point. >> i will say, you are right, there is a lot moving all the

time, but this also felt like a very important moment. for me, my reaction was similar to the reaction of charlottesville because it felt like that is a big thing to say and it felt that way to me. this really was an alarming moment in his reaction has been similar to charlottesville wher he praised the bad guys and the came back and said well, i don' it's everybody. >> i think this is where unfortunately, a lot of people on both sides lose credibility because one when you react too far one way and start saying things like leon panetta saying they must have something on him now you've gone too far. >> nancy pelosi to. >> on the other side for republicans, when you say this cures at all, you also lose credibility because it doesn't change the rest of the stance o the rest of the conference pretty want to warn both sides, sort of take a breath before yo go to the extreme in your analysis of what happened here. because you just undermined the rest of everything else. >> and you're point and i'm curious what you have to say about this, we'll democrats

capitalize on this so much to their own detriment russian mark . >> i think there are a lot of important questions to ask and think we're asking some of them and we're talking about what happened in the meeting that wa behind closed doors as well. that was pretty alarming. i see we will see how this develops. there needs to be sort of some actionable oversight. i think that is the middle we are talking about. rather than saying, running around with her hair on fire, versus singh was not do anythin at all, his comments fixed everything. i think we need to figure out a way. >> i think were hearing a lot o let's not do anything at all, what we are hearing about republicans talking about the sanctions, but they're ready t move forward with russia. there are some bipartisan efforts right now. i had the chair of the subcommittee on, a democrat, he said they're working on legislation to keep this from happening again. can we stop hyperventilating fo just a second and breed and the

oxygen of what might make it better in november because that's where we should be focused. they could do this again. >> absolutely. that is the best point. what we doing to prevent that? >> we will move forward it with this part of it. mike pompeo said to testify before the senate foreign relations committee next week o the details of that summit in helsinki. counselor to the president signaled the white house is on board with the plan. >> why shouldn't he go? in other words,, sure, if he ca share them many different issue that pugin and president trump discussed together and the president highlighted a number of them yesterday, nuclear proliferation, humanitarian aid for syria with what is a humanitarian crisis and this president, not is president asserts, this president to expelled 60 or more russian intelligence officials, it's this presidents treasury department that keeps on puttin sanctions on russia.

>> all of this comes as a group of democratic lawmakers are demanding answers about president trumps conversation with the russian leader behind closed doors. in a letter sent to president trump yesterday, six top democratic senators including senate majority leader chuck schumer wrote this, we as a nation must be no wonder exactl what you discussed and made a promise to president putin. congress and the american publi have the right to know. we cannot afford to be blindsided or out maneuvered. now a growing group of democrat are calling for the american translator present during that private meeting to appear befor congress and say what was discussed. let's hear from senator this morning. >> it's clear that there is no transcript, yet russia seem to know what was said and what was agreed to. i think it's important for congress to know that as well. if the president is not going t share that with us, then the interpreter is the one in the room who may have some of that

information. teaki i asked the question and will re- ask it now that we are discussing this about president. kennedy quest mike. >> it's interesting because translators are actually protected in these areas becaus if i translators bills to much, they risk losing their job and this is obviously a very important language to be able t translate. she works for the state department and wants to keep he job. i want to know what happened in that meeting. i don't assume because i don't trust politicians and i certainly don't trust russia that it was all hunky-dory. i would love a little more up a breakdown. i don't think we necessarily need that from the translator. >> does the public needed? >> i totally disagree i think that that whole movement is mad to undermine the president and say we don't trust you alone in the room. the people who elect him trust

him, he deserves the opportunit to go in and do his job. by the way, if you listen to th interview with chris wallace, you know that nothing president putin ever says is the truth or has to do with the question he was asked. to me, that gave you so much insight into everything going o because he could just spin and deflect and not answer. it makes you think there was no conversation with him. >> biz is part of a concern. president trump came out of tha meeting same president putin ha so many great ideas about how t do with his probe and things like that. that is concerning. whether bringing out the translator was the right way to find out what happened in that meeting? i think that's a worthwhile question to talk about. i do think people have reasonable concerns that when you send president trump into a meeting with vladimir putin and he comes up saying what a great meeting, this is not a normal meeting. >> he ever says this is the bes meeting ever or.

>> was there anything different after north korea? wasn't that a great meeting to? >> those specifics i like to hear from the president versus the translator. i just think it would sound better coming from the presiden to tell us what's going on and what he thought happened in tha meeting. you were in the room. >> again, because the president has been when presidents have these long conversations, look at president kennedy and [inaudible] , you know, you look at the history, you look at president obama who is having letters back-and-forth and phone calls with some of the leadership and he ran, and lo and behold, we have like the deal of the century and some side deals we still don't know about. i haven't seen any movement on the hill to try to get the language of that into the bloodstream of the american people. >> those were conversations wit multiple people involved. those were conversations where the president of the united states said i'm going to go int

a meeting with this person. >> you can't just have it for this i do hate. >> it's not that. i think it's important when we deal with a big photo of the united states, particularly one that has attacked is particularly with the president that has been very friendly to that site, i think it's important that other people in the room, especially when you have a president who says i don't want anyone else in this room. >> but everybody who's met with the russian president before this has meant alone. that's how it's been done with the russian president. you only just trust don't trust this one guy because you don't like him. >> i don't think this is true a all. >> i will give you this one example, we still had to lean i and hear that. he said i will transmit that to vladimir putin. i mean, that was a public momen but a private within a public moment and we still had to was that whisper meant for us? that he was going to make the quite different after his last

election. >> this is a different moment. >> i will take that and move on. we continue to await those remarks on a president. he speaking on a host of issues where are getting some readouts from that right now. we will bring it to you live on camera as soon as we get it. meanwhile, house republicans today looking to force democrat to go on the record over where they stand on supporting ice, has of the midterm elections. a bill being brought to the house floor, so what to make of the show down and president trump firing back at former cia director john brennan hugh who called the presidents response to the summit treasonous. did john brennan crossed the line? wiedwald debated. >> i think brennan is a bad guy and if you look at it, a lot of things happened under his watch. i think is a very bad person. (avo) come with us... ...to a new world. deeper than the ocean. as unfathomable as the universe.

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they wanted to look for the things they could get them together. overall a positive set of meetings of the last ten days. that from pompeo, a secretary inside the cabinet meeting. as the news breaks on this and we can bring it to you live on camera its entirety, we will ring that to you. >> in this fox news alerts showdown over immigration enforcement. the house is expected to vote o a bill today supporting eyes, top republicans are looking to force vulnerable democrats to vote on the issue ahead of the midterm elections. originally house leaders plan t bring a democrat sponsored bill to abolish ice, but scrapped that after the bills main sponsor said he would vote against his own bill calling th gop's move a political stunt. watch. >> i've been doing this for 25 years you often write a bill to gain support for you can actually have these ideas becom real someday. we have nine sponsors that have a little bit of work to do. we are simply click education t do and that's why the bill went

out there to start the process break. they have no to plan to pass it but we're not going to let the get away with that. the republican leadership think they're too cute by half 50 get senator by senator, marco rubio slamming democrats over their push to abolish ice. >> if you don't like the laws o our immigration laws, i think w have to have them come over a sovereign nation. you can change the laws. they are law enforcers, they enforce the laws that congress has on the books. they should do so in and about as abolishing eyes is a ridiculous idea. >> ridiculous. are you in favor of abolishing eyes? this is a issue candace putting your party. >> to an extent, but i think the issue of how ice deals with immigrants in this country is one that a lot of people have concerns about. eisert may have concerns about how they deal with immigrants i this country. we saw yesterday 71 children ar stuck at the border separated

from their parents in the trump administration doesn't know whether parents are. that is extraordinary. i'm not saying that as a democrat. >> is that fully the part of th government or did the parents share some responsibility? >> for turning the tilted to th government had. >> know bring in them across illegally. >> often they present themselve for asylum with their children and they get separated. that's what's going on here. >> wait, i've got to slow your roll on this for just a second because i want to understand. we're all in agreement that we want the children to be treated well when they get into our country. we have detention center set up we've seen that first lady visi more than one of them making sure what we're saying as a country and what we are doing i a country are equal, i get what you're saying, but don't advocate this idea that people are coming across the border. they're not being kidnapped, jake. these people are coming across

illegally enter and they're bringing their children in tow. they know that. >> some of them are unaccompanied minors. but in total, these people are coming across with their families and they know by now, that the situation is such that it will be difficult when they get here. there may be a 20 day waiting period before they can be put back together. these things are pretty well known. i would imagine, at least as they get close to the border. i think it's wholly unfair to put it on america. we have to be in this together. kennedy is talking about the responsibility responsibility that individuals take as well. >> individuals to have responsibility and sometimes th bureaucracies absolutely fail. as a limited government fan i have no problem scrapping entir institutions. however,, what democrats are saying is let's get rid of this in them will come up with some relief. that doesn't sound to a solution . >> abolishing ice is extreme. it feels like right now, i coul be completely wrong, it feels

like some democrats have gotten on board with the plan and now it's almost like you're too dee in to go back and change her mind. that's how it feels. >> a couple of things. one is many of the people, and across the border are not tryin to sneak in, they're presenting themselves at the border and coming from horrible conditions in saying. >> in total agreement on that. >> your talking about an immigration issue, your talking about laws that need to be re- crafted, redrawn by legislators and not this phony baloney stun legislation. >> what we put at the border in place of ice? chairman mccall to me yesterday that we are thwarting nearly a dozen terrorist coming across the border a day. >> we have much more to discuss including president trump takin on john brennan after the forme cia chief called his actions an helsinki treasonous. have the criticism gone too far quest which we will debate that. plus he didn't say president trump, but it looks like president obama was taking shot at his successor during a speec

overseas. what he said that is raising eyebrows. >> who needs free speech as lon as the economy is going good?

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>> the president cabinet meetin has distracted, yes he was aske about helsinki, the summit with blood in my and birth. as we go to my white house to them directly from our residence , we will watch what he says about the president actions . >> is russia still targeting th u.s.? >> thank you very much, everyone . we're doing very well. we are doing very well. we are doing very well there ha

been no president ever as tough as i have been on russia. all you have to do is look at the numbers, look at what we've done, look at sanctions, look a ambassadors not there. what unfortunately that what happened in syria recently. i think president putin knows that better than everybody. certainly better than the media. he understands it and is not happy about it. he shouldn't be happy about it because there's never been a president as tough on russia as i have been. thank you very much. >> so the president they are talking about his record with russia as well as anybody has ever done with russia. >> i love the superlative. >> at the beginning they said are they still meddling it sounded like? and he said no. he does not believe that russia is still meddling. >> i didn't hear. all he said was know, which

sounds insane. >> it does sound insane. >> it could be that he believes we are stopping them meddling a this point. >> we are working really hard t make this sound reasonable. >> i'm not taking is unreasonable because it doesn't sound remotely reasonable. it sounds insane. i'm only saying he could be saying that we are now stopping it, but to deny that russia is trying to meddle forever and ha been forever, would be totally insane. >> that wasn't the question. i would say this i just want to reset where we were. we are here parts for the cabinet meeting the president was having emily knew a lot of topics come up. secretary of state pompeo, we brought everybody notes on the life. there was, but we were not privy to a life cabinet meeting. these were the questions and answers that we're put just after everything ended and we were allowed to turn our campus on and show that to everybody.

i don't know that we can't in totality what the question was, but it did sound like the question had to do you believe russia or is russia still meddling? >> i and spit bowling here so just work with me. i meant developing this is you guys are sitting here, but you know how many times over the course of the last year and a half we have heard the presiden say i'm not going to let other countries know what i'm doing. i'm not going to tell you my plan. >> a lot, everything. >> he says it a lot. again, just spit falling here, do you think this could be part of his plan? >> it might be part of his plan but lawmakers on capitol hill are putting together sanctions against russia. they're fully talking about it. >> this is a suggestion because i think this would help clarify pretty much everything. again, airing on the cited transparency i think we have to employ the bachelorette role which is the first runner up on the bachelor,, she often time gets her own season and we're a bunch of attractive.

>> i having gotten that far. i will say this, you know how much fun it is when the president is in a room with people and there are cameras an it is unscripted and everyone's confused. the chaos oftentimes leads to something beautiful. instead of wondering what president trump and president putin might have talked about, let's have another summit where they sit down. we open up the cameras we see the whole thing. and we get to see what's really happening. >> you're not kidding. we're talking about these two. let's find out what they really have to say. we talk about north korea, kim jong un coming to the white house had we know that there's not another level coming question my. >> and it's to be determined right now. >> in the meantime president trump firing back at cia director john brennan after brendan called his remarks on

russian meddling during a news conference with vladimir putin, treasonous. >> i think brendan is a bad guy if you look at it, a lot of things happened under his watch. i think he's a very bad person also think when you watch peter staab and when you watch all of the things that have happened having comey take a look at tha and mccabe, who's got some pretty big problems i assume. you look at the deception, device, these are people who in my opinion are truly bad people. they are being exposed for what they are. >> obama is former spy chief aisling the use of the word treasonous in his interview. >> when i use the term this is nothing short of treason as i think it's a betrayal of one's nation. 18 and abetting, giving comfort to an enemy. mister trump had the opportunit to say to the american people and countries around the world and mister putin, do not do thi again or there will be

consequences. he failed to meet even the minimum standards of that. take i think you cut through al the political bs. the president is not going to b talking about stuff. maybe you just look at his actions. he talks in the master lock it back. >> i know you are a fan of actions over words. the challenge here is that we are a were war of words right now. we are words, social media, thi is kind of where we live right now so for the person who he probably yields more informatio successfully in tweets than any of us ever will in a lifetime, think he wants to be able to do both. and he needs to be able to do both. and if we judge on the policy, wow, he even has more words to say doesn't he because he's succeeding there. so maybe the question is the work that he chooses.

>> i think if you take some of his missteps and you sort of se them aside without forgiving them and take the result of certain things on that he is still doing well. i think that he did in russia i was wrong and i think it was bad , and i think it was dumb. those three things don't equal treason. they just don't. the problem is if you keep crying wolf and saying everything is treason and everything is a high crime and misdemeanor, all you're going t do is cast donald trump is the victim which democrats don't want to do. his base loves it. >> brennan is current clearly o the site and he is nothing he i mentally swirling down the drai and i don't get it. >> i won't argue that. i would say treason aside, i came from a communications background and communications i a big part of policy and it makes a big difference. >> yep to be able to do both.

could you have to do both because their interlinked. we saw, for example. he's not going to so what you going to do? it's coming down to do you want to impeach him because he's really bad at standing up there talking about stuff? >> i'm not talking about that, i'm talking about understanding him as a person and what he's doing when he talks yesterday about changing culture in europ because immigrants are coming i which is white national rhetoric , that shouldn't happen and you should never president of the united states talking that way and it matters,. >> and when you go that far you undermine the rest of europe. >> the camp political the democratic win over top democrat last month is getting slammed now by some lawmakers o the left. why one former democrat senator is throwing his support behind crowley and how it could affect cortez in the upcoming midterms. that is our discussion ahead. you're turning onto the street

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>> welcome back the growing rif between moderate and progressiv democrat. former democratic senator and one time buys presidential hopeful joe lieberman urging ne yorkers to vote for joe crowley over alexandria cortez in the november midterms. the intent having come in and ranking house democrats and las month was once primary. a wall street journal op-ed lieberman calls for platform more socialist than democratic. and that, her dreams of new federal spending would bankrupt the country or require very large tax increases including o the working class. her approach forced his government ownership of many private companies which would

decimate the economy and put millions out of work. lieberman comments come after cortez raised eyebrows describing israel's presence in the west bank as a occupation. she later walked back that statement. watch. >> you use the term the occupation of palestine, what did you mean by that? >> i think what i meant is like the settlements that are increasing in some of these areas and places where palestinians are experiencing difficulty and access to their housing and homes. >> can you expand on that? >> i think i am not the expert on politics on this issue. so, i know everyone wants a new progressive star in the democratic party because the stories you have in the democratic party are not exactl

new. bernie sanders and elizabeth warren are getting on a bit. their ideas are still very popular with the younger generation which obviously neve had to pay taxes. how much of a rift should be expanded within a party? >> the reaction to i felt like the reaction from republicans. >> joe lieberman not a republican. >> know, the emphasis there is heavily on former democratic senator giving congressman crowley a good boost. but i think that when drew crowley was the primary i think the reactions from democrats an republicans were very different breed i felt like democrats wer saying this is a massive breaku in the democratic party and democrats in general were like okay. they're really wasn't this sort of hair pulling. >> you acknowledge how real the socialist movement is within your party? can you see that an offshoot, a legacy point and cortez having

worked with bernie sanders, can you see the legacy he has created within your party because it's real? >> sure. i think there is certainly a bi contingent of folks in the democratic party. >> what are you going to be the do about them and november? >> and hopefully they vote democrat. if you are a socialist, would you vote democrat chris mark we're already spending way too much money, you've seen the economy grow and part because o tax reduction. you cannot increase taxes and increase spending and do anything, but bring the econom to a grinding halt sending us into potentially another depression. what you think that does to the lowest income voters in this country? it kills them. it's deadly. >> i think there are two different ideas of how economic in this country works and i think there are plenty of liberal economist the site i'm not going to get into how socialism works and where it works and where it doesn't, bu i will say that. >> where it doesn't list is muc

longer than where it does. >> i didn't know there was awar it works. we're talking about people in the democratic party interested in being representatives in the democratic party. were a big tent party, but we take on very clear ideas about politics. >> are you worried that those people who won't vote in rebellion? i think like that comment, here which are seeing in thing in th sense that everybody has this crisis of identity after they lose the presidential race and they're looking for is it the more extreme version of the party or the more centrist and you don't know where it's going to sit, but it's the idea that there is this group of socialis that is growing within the democratic party, and i think they would like to see that other democrats lose and they may not go out and vote for our republic in those days stay hom and not vote. >> i would say that i think it makes sense that she is running in queens and the bronx, instea of some of these other districts .

i don't think that all democrat are going to be the same as a democrat in the bronx. >> i have a question for europa do you think this interview she did was a wake-up call for the democratic party because a lot of people were behind her. a lot of people did support her and now you see whether she answered or didn't answer some of those questions and then you see people starting to walk bac a little bit the support of her do you think this is a wake-up call meaning that the democrats really need to figure out their identity? >> i think we're reading too much into one candidates performance like i think republicans wouldn't all want t be tagged is being. >> the reason we looked at it i a microscopic way is because sh beat out a ten term congressman and crowley is name is still on the ballot. got upset about that got upset about that and said i can't tak my own name off the ballot, it' too late. >> oh, mercy. president obama making an art o

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former president obama throwing some serious shade at president trump during high-profile speec overseas. at least it appeared so. obama, at an event marking nelson mandela is 100th birthday in south africa, the moment arrives and he took some thinly veiled shot at his successor without mentioning hi by name. watch. >> as he starting seeing populist movements which by the way are often cynically funded by right-wing billionaires, loo around. strongmen politics are ascendant . often times not based just on platforms of protectionism and closed borders, but also on barely hidden racial nationalism . unfortunately, too much of politics today seems to reject the very concepts of objective truth. people just make stuff up. >> white house counsel are quickly fired.

>> he might as well have just called everybody irredeemable and deplorable. i thought that was very unfortunate and i do agree with him that lots of leaders like a double down on their lies. if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. >> kennedy, if you don't think you're going to explode. >> it's incredible because populism is rooted in leftism. that's what was a elizabeth warren is tapping into. he went after capitalism called it unbridled, unregulated and a ethical capitalism since they has to be wiped off the planet from a guide that just made $60 million off of a book deal we don't know how much from the netflix deal. capitalism is great. he's a beneficiary of that.

>> it is incredibly hypocritica and it's exactly what got president trump elected. it's that sort of elitist attitude were you believe that there is this ruling class that is allowed to go out and make a fortune, president obama he als talks about people doubling dow on life. i am eagerly thought we all kno when you told that your times that every families health insurance is going to go down b $1,250 per year every year for ever, i knew that at the time that that was a mathematical life. it was a lie and he doubled dow on it when he said that the united states wasn't, he said, the nine states wasn't spying o americans and that's exactly what was happening. >> i just want to make two points. one is that i think it's unfortunate sort of measure of the moment that when president obama talks about praising trut and being against lies that we all sort of know oh, he's

talking about president trump. i will say let's put trump asid for a second and talk about how it applies to the rest of the world because it's true that there is an ascendant authority areas of round the world it's and it is really concerning administration regimes and all of those. i think that's why, for example, , nato is such an important organization. >> what did obama do about our relationship with turkey, what did obama do about venezuela? i agree with you. certainly didn't do anything else. strategic patient is hot malarkey. that attitude is why we are here . this president he is a reaction to the last one. >> there is plenty of reason to say that we didn't do enough begin some of these ascendant right wing dictators, but that' no reason then to embrace them now which is what donald trump has done. >> maybe i'm in the minority here, i'm not sure, but each

party takes shots at one another . this is something we can use to for as long as this country has been in existence. and with these words are powerful enough to create chang in this country, i just don't get into a fight about it. >> stay close.

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