think the president will listen to me. that is our story for tonight. tucker carlson is coming up next live from washington, d.c. ♪ >> tucker: good evening, welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." if last night we played our interview with president trump from helsinki, part of it has made headlines. people are upset about it it has nothing to do with vladimir putin or mother russia, it has to do with the nation of montenegro which is smaller than the state of connecticut. it has fewer residents than the district of columbia, it's a relatively poor place. it has no critical national resources and limited strategic significance. few americans could name its capital or its president. apparently it's a nice place but those are the facts about montenegro. from an american perspective

it's not an important country. and suddenly because of an act of congress that few people noticed, montenegro has profound significance. since last year it has been a member of the nato alliance. if it ever finds itself in a war, our military is pledged to defend it. that's called the defense guarantee. defense guarantee is a don't seem like a big deal until suddenly they are, that's when the first world war started. 37 million casualties later, the world began to rethink wisdom of treaties like that but the lesson seems to have been lost since. in our interview with president trump in finland we thought it might be worth having a conversation about america's obligations to nato. we asked a simple question. why is it in our interest to defend the territorial integrity of integrity of montenegro? why should our soldiers fight and die on its behalf? here's the exchange we had. membership in nato obligates members to defend any other member who is attacked. let's say montenegro is joined,

why should my son go to montenegro? >> president trump: i've asked at the same question. montenegro is a tiny country with very strong people. >> tucker: i'm not against montenegro or albania. >> president trump: very strong people, very aggressive people, they may get aggressive and congratulations, you're in world war iii. i understand but that's the way it's set up. >> tucker: that's not a definitive answer obviously but the president had been thinking about it and good for him. presidents are supposed to wonder about things like that. serious countries ought to have debates like that. the u.s. has to defend montenegro, really? is there a good reason? let's hear it. that's the conversation we should be having but the guardians of the public conversation are not serious people, they are hacks and buffoons were wondering about our defense guarantee for montenegro, trump is being denounced for treason. for asking the question we are

accused of taking orders from vladimir putin. what do russians have on tucker carlson? the former network did an entire segment this afternoon suggesting americans somehow have a moral obligation to lay down their lives. >> yet again raising serious doubts about whether he would honor article five of the nato charter if it came down to it, it's a cornerstone of the alliance. an armed attack on one nation is an attack on all. the president questioning whether it should under the agreement when it comes to the newest member, montenegro. >> tucker: the argument apparently is because montenegro has about 20 noncombatants in afghanistan, we the u.s. have an internal obligation to spend money and lives defending their borders. that is idiotic which is to say perfect for cable news. in real life a defense guarantee is not something you enter into

lightly, it's like promising a friend to take care of his kids if he dies it's a solemn commitment and you would not make it unless you plan to keep it. the question is do we plan to keep it? do we really plan to defend montenegro or many of the other nato members? how about estonia, how about a slovakia? are you ready to have your kids die in those countries? the u.s. government is ready to send them, we've promised to do that. nato was created almost 70 years ago for a specific and noble purpose, keeping the soviets from invading western europe. it worked but the soviet union no longer exists and it hasn't existed for almost 30 years. nato meanwhile is still around and it's getting bigger. why is that? more to the point, is it serving america's interests or is it imperiling them? those are vital questions. official washington does not want to answer them or talk about them, they are trying to crush anyone who asks we are not intimidated obviously.

joining us as hillary clinton's former spokesman, suggesting we worked for vladimir putin for daring to ask about nato and montenegro. it's a serious question because defense guarantees or serious promises. why would the united states promise to defend montenegro? speak out the nato treaty has kept the peace since world war . i don't want your son to fight and montenegro. i don't want him to fight in germany or any of other of the9 nato countries but you are presenting nato as something likely to trigger a war when nato is in fact what has avoided war. while the soviet union has fallen, the russians are incredible -- >> tucker: the reason i thought of montenegro and suggested there was some putin reason why you did, there was a much more prosaic reason because it just joined nato.

>> let's also remember -- >> tucker: what's the american interest in being preserved to send my son to go fight in montenegro? what's the answer? >> the answer is nato in the collective defense is the most likely thing to keep the peace. >> let's say russia moves against montenegro. i hope they don't but they might. why would a critical american interest be served. how about montenegro? that's why i gave a specific example. i'm not attacking them, i think it's great they have 20 noncombatants in afghanistan, -- actually i feel sorry for them. >> they contributed to before nato. >> tucker: that's great but that's not the point.

are you suggesting we owe them a defense guarantee? >> i'm not looking at montenegro i'm looking at the full 29 countries. >> tucker: that's how bad decisions get made, one people to look at the statistics. >> how many times as the collective defense ever been triggered? >> tucker: once. >> once, and one was that? >> tucker: was after 9/11. world war i actually happened -- the fact is we are obligated to defend all of these countries, slovakia, albania, turkey -- what would happen if israel attacked turkey? that's not a crazy possibility, you could easily see a terror group backed by turkey, israel retaliates. suddenly we are obligated attack israel? >> is not every time anyone fires a shot, otherwise we would've been an 18 wars in the last 15 years. >> tucker: could you imagine a scenario --

>> no. >> tucker: i easily could have. >> we would never be in a shooting war with israel. >> tucker: in article five -- >> it's never been triggered because of the point of the terms are to keep the peace. >> tucker: here's a news flash, the intent of something is not always consistent with the results of it. we do things hoping for one outcome and very often get an entirely different outcome. imagine what could happen. >> we didn't create nato yesterday. we created it decades ago. >> tucker: must be really specific. >> the original nato which was 12 countries was to keep the soviet union in check. >> tucker: great goal. >> it's worked really well. europe was war-torn. something was working.

>> tucker: the world has completely changed. maybe the people in washington are so ossified and dumb they are failing to account for the total realignment of everything, the world is different from it was. >> are you saying montenegro should be part of it? >> tucker: i'm not saying we should pull out of nato. you're making possible the reckless charges of treason, what is the point of this? is the main adversary? >> i don't think it's in a kind coded message. i think people picked up because it was only a one and 28 chance of picking montenegro. >> tucker: i watch these other channels in there like -- every american voting for trump or not has an interest in answering the question, what's the point of this? no one consent can answer the .

>> nato has been part of our own defense. >> tucker: they're going to prevent russia from doing what? >> i know you hate when i said, russia is being aggressive again. they are being aggressive militarily. russian bombers are buzzing us over alaska, we have russian ships -- >> tucker: nato hasn't prevented any of that. >> may be they're incredibly afraid of the montenegrin's. >> tucker: do you think it would be worth your neighbors, my kids going to fight russia for the sake of the territorial integrity? >> i don't want to repeat myself four times but i firmly believe that it is nato that has prevented that. i want to nato four times in belgium. >> tucker: you should be a history teacher, i'm asking

about tomorrow. they want their kids to die defending slovakia? >> i know just outside i met leo and michelle from atlanta, georgia, and i think they understand that nato is important. they might agree that there is a montenegrin meltdown. >> tucker: outside all of the people working in think tanks in charge of our foreign policy who are responsible for wrecking the world, outside of that group of people does anyone think it's worth dying for slovakia? not one person. >> and i think people are enjoying the freedom that has been provided without having to spend too much time worrying about how it came. >> tucker: lou dobbs posts, one of the wisest people on television he joins us tonight. do you think america's obligation to defend the territorial integrity of

montenegro. >> i think the president isn't getting the credit he deserves for raising the issue of realigning nato. as you worry about whether we will defend nato, it seems to be the reaction that nato has saved the western civilization. the president of the united states is the one who in his campaign that started talking about reorienting nato. you talked about washington being ossified and dumb, this is a president who came in with bright ideas, who was attacked from every element of the establishment and those who are invested deeply in the status quo including nato. the reality is as we watch cable television today, the folks you were talking about on cnn are

really neocons of casual convenience. they are thrilled to be talking about the united states defending the poor folks of montenegro against the onslaught of mad russians. this is beyond the pale. the real answer lies in we have a president who saw years ago, he is driving this discussion because he can't get congress, he can't get through the national media to the important issues. what is nato doing? why are they expanding to 29 nations, many of them small, whether they are small or large, not particularly responsible in meeting the demands that are required of 2% of gdp for defense spending? we are being called upon to defend all of nato irrespective of the money they pay or their fighting capabilities.

>> tucker: we have an altruistic obligation to only act one is not in our interests. never wars that might benefit the united states ever, any war that we might have an interest and we can't do that because we are bad. >> you put it perfectly. we are compelled by a mysterious force to be altruistic to act again against our national interest and losing all of those lives and losing all of that money was not in our interests because we didn't do much with the people in saudi arabia and afghanistan who were responsible for september 11th and that was the incipient point of the conflict it is difficult for some to remember. the president has put it straightforwardly. he wants rationality, he wants things to make sense, he has talked endlessly over the last

two years to sometimes no avail that we need smart government we need brains, and we need people committed to changing the status quo that could strangle this country as well as western europe if we aren't careful. >> tucker: give me a war that protects america and i will support it. great to see you. sexist, racist, trader, not say, the left is running out of epithets for the president. what's next? physical action. we'll write that down after the break. fruits and veggies are essential to your health, but it's tough to get enough of their nutrients. new one a day with nature's medley is the only complete multivitamin with antioxidants from one total serving of fruits and veggies try new one a day with nature's medley.

withwhat sore back?sk... what bum knee? advil is relief that's fast strength that lasts you'll ask... what pain? with advil three are fha, one is va.e so what can you do? she's saying a whole lotta people want to buy this house.

but you got this! rocket mortgage by quicken loans makes the complex simple. understand the details and get approved in as few as eight minutes. by america's largest mortgage lender. with tough food, your dentures may slip and fall. new fixodent ultra-max hold gives you the strongest hold ever to lock your dentures. so now you can eat tough food without worry. fixodent and forget it. th any paint can change the way a room looks. but only one can change how it feels.

century, from benjamin moore, is the first-ever soft touch matte finish paint. its revolutionary texture unlocks 75 unprecedented colors, each with exquisite depth and richness. it's a difference you can see, touch, and feel. that's proudly particular. century. only at select local paint and hardware stores. are you ready to take your then you need xfinity xfi.? a more powerful way to stay connected. it gives you super fast speeds for all your devices, provides the most wifi coverage for your home, and lets you control your network with the xfi app. it's the ultimate wifi experience. xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome.

>> tucker: first he was a sexist and a racist than a literally hitler reborn. now he's a traitor to his country. the left has run out of possible verbal attacks on president trump, there are none left. all that's left is violence and at some on the left appear to be encouraging that. graduated from rhetoric to physical action. congressional candidate alexandra because he will cortes is progressives to occupy airports and ice offices to shut down immigration enforcement. former hillary clinton philippe raines has brought air horns to the white house in an attempt to keep the president and his family from sleeping. congressman maxine waters from los angeles wants administration officials harassed and plenty of regular people seem to be on board with that. that shouldn't surprise you. they have been told for months

by the progress and progressive leaders that the president is a secret agent working for our greatest enemy vladimir putin. if you really believed that, what wouldn't you do? why wouldn't you use violence to save your country? you probably would. things might get worse from here, the weather is getting hotter, we have six weeks to go until september. harassment and occupation could turn to something worse. people are being primed for that and the left is recklessly egging it on. literally for the sake of foreigners, or montenegrin zoo must be ready to die for for some reason the illegal immigrants who now have a god-given right to enter this country. nobody on the left is occupying purdue pharma to protest the opioid epidemic. the tens of thousands of people killed by opioids last year were mostly born in america. they don't help big business or get democrats elected so they don't matter.

congressman, what's the penalty for treason? >> good evening. the penalty we are all paying right now for the president's treason is we are losing our allies. we see a wrecking ball threatening our freedoms here at home. by the president's own definition of treason let's use that. >> tucker: what's your definition of treason? >> betrayal of the american people. >> tucker: treason is a capital offense. >> why doesn't his definition matter? i'm telling you he's the president he said democrats committed treason when we didn't stand up for him at the state of the union. >> tucker: treason is punishable by death, it's an actual crime and i think you are an attorney you would know that. when you tell your constituents that the president of the united states has committed a death penalty offense, are you concerned that possibly you are torquing up the rhetoric past the point of reasonable

conversation? >> the president by his own definition -- >> tucker: don't blame the president. i want to know what you think. you're accusing the president of a capital offense. why wouldn't it be more useful for the rest of us to explain specifically the policies you disagree with and we can have a debate on them? if you think the united states has an obligation to defend nato members, tell us why. instead he set treason is not say, do you think that's helpful? >> i didn't call him a but why don't you have a problem if the president of the united states wants to turn over an innocent u.s. abbasid or to the russians, do we draw the line somewhere? >> i have a problem with a lot of things president has said. i'm asking you is one of the people accusing the president of treason if that's helpful?

is not the kind of rhetoric as an elected official, you think spurs thoughtful constructive conversation to bring the country together or does it with the into frenzy and increase the likelihood of violence? >> i think it's a beautiful country that has always added freedoms that we have a wrecking ball president right now. >> tucker: why are you doing this? >> you may not like the answer. >> tucker: working within enemy, russia is an enemy. so every president who met with russia is committing treason? >> he had a private meeting, agree to turn over eight u.s. ambassador to an enemy and sided with them over our own intelligence committee, at what point do you draw a line and say that's not a u.s. president? that's the prime minister of russia defending the president of russia? >> tucker: you think the president is more loyal to russia? you're a member of congress.

>> your yelling right now. >> tucker: i'm shocked that you're talking like this. >> do you want to be led by somebody who sides with russia over the united states? >> tucker: don't call into question -- >> he sided with them over our own intelligence. >> tucker: stop for one second. you think it is treasonous for an american president to meet privately with a head of state who we don't get along with, is that what you're saying? >> i think it's a betrayal of the united states to side with russia over our own intelligence committee, to turn over a u.s. ambassador to russia who was innocent. >> tucker: should the president to meet with the leader of china, obviously a dictatorship, kills its

political enemies, practices of censorship, a great deal of censorship it and flex on american companies, should he meet with the chinese premier or would that be treason as well? >> if were going to get something out of it, we didn't get anything out of -- >> tucker: a lot of your constituents money from china as we know. >> don't insult the bay area. >> tucker: i'm noting a fact which is china makes a lot of your constituents rich, there a more repressive country than russia, let's be real. that freedom stuff doesn't mean squat to you. >> tucker: let's focus on the country that attacked us. the saudis beheaded people, they don't let women drive until recently that's okay with you. >> i see why you want to distract. >> tucker: i'm trying to know what the rules are here. >> tell me why you're okay with what the president did

yesterday. >> tucker: meeting with putin? because he is one of the most powerful leaders in the world. >> are you okay with that? >> tucker: he is skeptical of american intelligence report. >> don't give me the talking points, are you okay with him citing with russia? >> i'm never okay with an american official siding with a foreign government over our own. i am okay with american leaders meeting with heads of state we disagree with. i would like to interview putin, does that make me a traitor? >> what about turning over the ambassador to the russians, do you have an opinion on that? it sounds like you don't. >> tucker: we've run out of time. but i would urge you to stop using the term treason because i think it's mindless.

>> i'm using the president's definition. >> tucker: dave robe and host rubin report on youtube and he joins us tonight. the problem i have with the rhetoric is that it makes any kind of intelligent conversation impossible. i do think there are real issues at the heart of the putin summit and whatever view you want on them they seem like they are worth discussing. the second you start calling people traders, accusing them of a felony how can you talk those issues through? >> it's always good to be with you you racist homophobic, on that note the rhetoric on both sides but particularly the left has been ramped up to the point where they are getting to the

place where we will be excusing violence. this mob mentality that we have talked about a bunch of times before, it's spreading everywhere. i did a video a couple months back about how internet culture is becoming mainstream culture. the trolling and attacking and fighting that used to be relegated to the basement of the internet is now leaking out everywhere and our politicians are telling people to troll people at their homes and all of this awful stuff. a great simple example that i gave you is when i was on the car right over here to do this show, hollywood director, actor, producer a great guy i know who was a lefty who you would disagree with on a ton of stuff, mark duplessis who's been reaching across the aisle, trying to say to the liberals let's try to be a little more tolerant. he put out a tweet saying you might want to follow conservative ben shapiro he's a decent guy and it will open up

your eyes to some stuff, i'm paraphrasing. the amount of hate that he got caused the guy to delete the tweet because the mob just goes after anyone who dares say let's be tolerant. that's really where were at, you've been talking on your show about quite some time how this all escalated to violence. if we can't talk the only thing left is violence. i'm doing everything i can to avoid that, i think you're trying to do it and i think there's a bunch of other people trying to do it too. i think we have to get louder and keep showing people that's truly the answer. >> tucker: i hate violence and if you ever hear me excusing it i hope you call me on it. rand paul may be one of the very few lawmakers on either side who sees value in the president meeting with vladimir putin. is he a traitor too? he joins us to answer that question ♪

a hotel can make or break a trip. and at expedia, we don't think you should be rushed into booking one. that's why we created expedia's add-on advantage. now after booking your flight, you unlock discounts on select hotels right until the day you leave. ♪ add-on advantage. discounted hotel rates when you add on to your trip. only when you book with expedia.

can make you feel unstoppable. ♪ but mania, such as unusual changes in your mood, activity or energy levels, can leave you on shaky ground. help take control by talking to your doctor. ask about vraylar. vraylar is approved for the acute treatment of manic or mixed episodes of bipolar i disorder in adults. clinical studies showed that vraylar reduced overall manic symptoms. vraylar should not be used in elderly patients with dementia due to increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about fever, stiff muscles, or confusion, which may mean a life-threatening reaction, or uncontrollable muscle movements, which may be permanent. side effects may not appear for several weeks. high cholesterol and weight gain; high blood sugar, which can lead to coma or death; decreased white blood cells, which can be fatal; dizziness upon standing; falls; seizures; impaired judgment; heat sensitivity; and trouble swallowing may occur. you're more than just your bipolar i. ask about vraylar.

at&t provides edge-to-edge intelligence, covering virtually every part of your healthcare business. so that if she has a heart problem & the staff needs to know, they will & they'll drop everything can you take a look at her vitals? & share the data with other specialists yeah, i'm looking at them now. & they'll drop everything hey. & take care of this baby yeah, that procedure seems right. & that one too. at&t provides edge to edge intelligence. it can do so much for your business, the list goes on and on. that's the power of &. & when your patient's tests come back... i'm all about my bed. this mattress is dangerously comfortable. when i get in, i literally say ahh. introducing the leesa mattress. a better place to sleep. the leesa mattress is designed to provide strong support, relieve pressure and optimize air flow to keep you cool. today is gonna be great. read our reviews then try the leesa mattress in your own home. order now and get $150 off, and free shipping, too. go to buyleesa.com today. you need this bed. friends, colleagues,

gathered here are the world's finest insurance experts. rodney -- mastermind of discounts like safe driver, paperless. the list goes on. how about a discount for long lists? gold. mara, you save our customers hundreds for switching almost effortlessly. it's a gift. and jamie. -present. -together we are unstoppable. so, what are we gonna do? ♪ insurance. that's kind of what we do here. >> tucker: former cia director john brennan is describing the president someone with vladimir putin as treason, that seems over the top but amazingly otherwise responsible people have raised to endorse that assessment. we asked the president about it in helsinki and here's what he said. >> president trump: i think he is a very bad guy and if you look at a lot of things happened under his watch. he is a very bad person.

>> tucker: someone who does not think that the the presides meeting with putin is a treason is at senator rand paul of kentucky and he joins us tonight in the studio. the former director of the cia you think of that is a sober minded responsible pertinent, a james bond with an advanced degree, here you have a naked partisan nut cake describing a press conference as treason. >> it makes me wonder whether he's getting the government pension if he is calling the president treasonous. that's about as overtop as you can imagine. >> tucker: treason is a death penalty offense, he is describing views with. >> you have to realize john brennan starting his illustrious career by voting for the communist party back in the 70s. when he came to be head of the cia, i filibustered him because

i thought he was bad news from the very beginning. this is one of the most powerful people in the world who has the ability to destroy anyone, and yet with all of that power he was coming to work each day with bias and hatred of the president, it should worry us all. what are things he could possibly be doing with that power? we need more checks and balances on the intelligence community, james comey, john brennan, james clapper. >> tucker: it's an irresponsible thing to say it's not a defense of the president or any figure to accuse someone of treason, it's a very big dea deal. i want to ask you about montenegro. a consensus formed in washington today that america has a moral obligation to protect the territorial integrity of montenegro, if montenegro is

attacked americans have a moral obligation to die to protect montenegro, do you think we do? >> here's what people who have talked about nato expansion have said. when you add montenegro, does it add to our national security or does it increase our strategic risk of war? i think it's more the latter. when you add montenegro or albania, we have a resolution before us in congress that i have been opposing that says anybody in the world who wants to join nato, anyone who was qualified can. we can have 50, 60 countries, we could have equatorial guinea in there and if molly attacks equatorial guinea, were going to have a world war. >> tucker: who would back at something that lunatic? >> we had a vote and i tried to strip out to the any aspirant can join nato and it lost 20-1. every member of the foreign relations committee voted against my amendment and all it would have done is strip out the section that we invite any aspirant to join it.

>> tucker: do you believe the average american has any idea that we are obligated by treaty to protect countries that nobody in america can find on a map bunt >> nobody knows that. people in washington are unified that anyone should be in nato, the whole world should be in nato even if they are former soviet satellites. oblivious to the fact that that could give get us involved in world war iii, but if you ask average republicans, average democrats do you think we should put every country into nato and defend every country in the world, most people would say i don't believe that. >> tucker: thank you for bringing this to public detention, we should at least have a debate on it. u.s. territory has authorized the seizure of guns from private citizens, they said it would never happen but it happened. one congressman has been paying

close attention, he joins his neck nick was born to move. 3 toddlers won't stop him. and neither will lower back pain. because at a dr. scholl's kiosk he got a recommendation for our custom fit orthotic to relieve his foot, knee, or lower back pain, from being on his feet. dr. scholl's. born to move. man 1: this is my body of proof. woman 1: proof of less joint pain... woman 2: ...and clearer skin. woman 3: this is my body of proof. man 2: proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis... woman 4: ...with humira. woman 5: humira targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, stop further irreversible joint damage, and clear skin in many adults. humira is the #1 prescribed biologic for psoriatic arthritis. avo: humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis.

serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. woman 6: need more proof? woman 7: ask your rheumatologist about humira. man 1: what's your body of proof? woman 7: ask your rheumatologist about humira. i'm a fighter. always have been.

when i found out i had age-related macular degeneration, amd, i wanted to fight back. my doctor and i came up with a plan. it includes preservision. only preservision areds 2 has the exact nutrient formula recommended by the national eye institute to help reduce the risk of progression of moderate to advanced amd. that's why i fight. because it's my vision. preservision. also, in a great-tasting chewable. where we're changing withs? contemporary make-overs. then, use the ultimate power handshake, the upper hander with a double palm grab. who has the upper hand now? start winning today. book now at lq.com. so, howell...going? we had a vacation early in our marriage

that kinda put us in a hole. go someplace exotic? yeah, bermuda. a hospital in bermuda. a hospital in bermuda. what? what happened? i got a little over-confident on a moped. even with insurance, we had to dip into our 401(k) so it set us back a little bit. sometimes you don't have a choice. but it doesn't mean you can't get back on track. great. yeah, great. i'd like to go back to bermuda. i hear it's nice. yeah, i'd like to see it. no judgment. just guidance. td ameritrade. saynot todayis because of my bladder, thanks to tena intimates with proskin technology designed to absorb so fast, it helps to protect and maintain your skin's natural balance so you can feel fresh and free to get as close as you want all day, and now all night for a free sample visit tena.us

♪ >> tucker: just before hurricane irma, the governor of the u.s. virgin islands issued a remarkable and disturbing executive order that authorized the seizure of private guns and ammunition. the hurricane has been over for a year but he has continued to remove that order setting the precedent that virgin islands residents can have their weapons seized by the government at will at any time. why is this happening in the territory controlled by the united states? congressman bob matt represents utah, he joins us. thank you for coming on. this seems like something that couldn't happen in any place controlled by the united states and yet it is. >> it ought not to happen, ironically enough after katrina hit in new orleans, the mayor tried to do that same kind of

executive order, and eventually the courts ruled that was unconstitutional. this is the question. he said different things about it, the order that would've allowed people to confiscate the weapons and ammunition and other property -- i don't know how you define that one. he said he never intended to do it, this is a way of the national guard getting ammunition and guns without using the normal procurement system, i don't know what that means. our committee and we are sending a letter with chairman goodlatt goodlatte, asking them for documentation and information to find out if any guns have been seized and why would you make this order in the first place and why would you keep renewing? he is renewed at different times well after the danger is gone and trying to realize if a hurricane as devastating as those two hurricanes were, if

that ever justifies the denial of a civil liberty or the denial of a constitutional right. >> tucker: why not ban free speech, people say inconvenient things during disasters, why not put them in jail? >> it would seem consistent with what they are trying to do just because there is an emergency. i'm not denying, i've been there, i know how devastating it was for the island. it still does not justify what this appears to justify. we don't know if it has been used or implemented or if anything has been confiscated that's part of the information that we want. we do want to ask why you would do this in the first place, as i set the territorial law that allows us to take place is very similar to what was ruled unconstitutional after katrina. >> tucker: when i covered it, i was there. that's when you need a gun, when lunatics are preying on the wea weak. >> that's one of the purposes of why the second amendment is not about collection it's an individual right.

were going to send the letter out tonight, we're going to be looking into this. >> tucker: a pro-gun activist is sitting in jail right now the government is trying to deny her bail, she's accused of breaking a law of promoting a russian interest in the united states. who is this person, what laws did she break. a kind of mysterious story were going to try to answer the basic question coming up next.

♪ that's confident. but it's not kayak confident. kayak searches hundreds of travel and airline sites to find the best flight for me. so i'm more than confident. how's your family? kayak. search one and done. until her laptop crashed this morning. her salon was booked for weeks, having it problems? ask a business advisor how to get on demand tech support for as little as $15 a month. right now, buy one hp ink and get a second at 30% off at office depot officemax when you barely clip a tpassing car. minor accident - no big deal, right?

wrong. your insurance company is gonna raise your rate after the other car got a scratch so small you coulda fixed it with a pen. maybe you should take that pen and use it to sign up with a different insurance company. for drivers with accident forgiveness liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. liberty mutual insurance. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty ♪

♪ >> tucker: just the day before the summit in finland between president trump and vladimir putin, the fbi arrested a woman called maria butina, a russian citizen a pro-gun

activist. according to the government she illegally worked to promote russian interest in the united states. the government is trying to deny her bail, what did she do? it's not clear -- we asked them to tell us. i read this carefully i'm not defending her eye had no idea if she's a good person or not. from what i could tell she didn't steal anything, i couldn't understand what her agenda was. from the news story "the washington post" made it sound like she's trying to bring the u.s. and russia closer together and now she's accused of a crime. >> it's a very mysterious case. it appears she was in touch with russian intelligence agents. she was some sort of agent of russia. she comes over here and appears to want to really insinuate herself into political organizations like the nra. seeming to concentrate on conservative political organizations.

she had a shtick. she wanted to start a pro-gun nra like organization in russia as if you could have one of those. a lot of american conservatives thought that was really cool. she's going to do this in russia? that's great. according to the court papers she had a live in relationship with a man who was very connected in the nra, a former politico out of south dakota, the government says pretty clearly she was doing that as part of her work. >> tucker: is that her governments business? >> the question is what she was doing what is the point of this? >> tucker: what's the crime? >> she's actually charged. what's interesting is she is charged with representing a foreign country without registering witches become a hot crime. >> tucker: how many people in this city are lobbying for

foreign governance not registered? >> a huge number. what a smaller number now. i think this is a weird story. >> it is a weird story and i've had people say to me if the fbi had evidence that she was in touch with her russian handlers over the nuclear codes, she would not have been charged with this foreign registration. this is not serious like that. cases like this do sometimes end with the united states deporting the person and they can't come. >> tucker: if they did something wrong, charged with i it. last year george papadopoulos pleaded guilty to making false statements to the fbi, his wife testified to the house until committee in relation to the russia investigation, she voluntarily did that and she joins us now to tell us what

happened. the democrats asked you to come and talk to them, what if they ask you? >> they asked me about my relationship with the famous professor -- and the man i used to work for which is the link between me and the investigatio investigation. i explained to them that according to my knowledge, he has ties to western intelligenc intelligence, and so i invited invited -- >> tucker: were more than a year into this, you're the wife of someone at the center of this case if it is even a case, why did it take this long to talk to you?

>> i have no idea, i don't know why it took so long. i voluntarily intended the meeting, george is misunderstoo misunderstood. we talked about him as the mastermind of russia which is completely ridiculous, he just happens to be someone who casually talks about -- hillary clinton's emails and then he never did anything with those emails. >> tucker: paul manafort is about to get a life sentence for tax evasion and not registering under pharaoh, are you worried about getting caught up in this? >> i am quite confident i can protect myself and i've always said the truth. i hope that the truth will come out. i'm not sure if it's russia collusion at all.

>> tucker: misses papadopoulos, thank you very much. the deputy chair of the democratic national committee says the very existence of borders is immoral, will tell you what he says next. s point, there are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. call one today. are you in good hands? your hair is so soft! did you use head and shoulders two in one? i did mom. wanna try it? yes. it intensely moisturizes your hair and scalp and keeps you flake free. manolo? look at my soft hair. i should be in the shot now too. try head and shoulders two in one. (voowners always smiling?ck because they've chosen the industry leader. subaru outback holds its value better than any other vehicle in its class, according to alg. better than rav4. better than grand cherokee. better than edge.

make every adventure a happy one with subaru outback. get 0% apr financing on the 2018 subaru outback. essential for the cactus, but maybe not for people with rheumatoid arthritis. because there are options. like an "unjection™". xeljanz xr. a once-daily pill for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well enough. xeljanz xr can reduce pain, swelling and further joint damage, even without methotrexate. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections, lymphoma and other cancers have happened. don't start xeljanz xr if you have an infection. tears in the stomach or intestines, low blood cell counts and higher liver tests and cholesterol levels have happened. your doctor should perform blood tests before you start and while taking xeljanz xr, and monitor certain liver tests. tell you doctor if you were in a region where fungal infections are common and if you have had tb, hepatitis b or c, or are prone to infections.

needles. fine for some things. but for you, one pill a day may provide symptom relief. ask your doctor about xeljanz xr. an "unjection™". ask your doctor about xeljanz xr. is this at&t innovations? yeah, wow..this must be for one of our new unlimited wireless plans. it comes with a ton of entertainment options. great, can you sign for this? yeah. hey, uh.. what's in that one? that's a shark. new and only with at&t, you can get unlimited data, 30+ channels of live tv, and your choice of things like hbo or pandora premium. more for your thing. that's our thing. visit att dot com. ♪ keep it comin' love. if you keep on eating, we'll keep it comin'. all you can eat riblets and tenders at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. so let's promote our summer travel deal on choicehotels.com like this.

surfs up. earn a $50 gift card when you stay just twice this summer. or, badda book. badda boom. book now at choicehotels.com brbut how will his dentured to thicope with... a steak. luckily for brad, this isn't a worry because he's discovered super poligrip. it holds his denture tight and helps give him 65% more chewing power. leaving brad to dig in and enjoy the tastiest of t-bones. super poligrip, helping you enjoy the foods you love.

>> tucker: abolish i.c.e. has been the progressive norm. barely a month now, but already, it is not enough. they are going further. keith ellison is attacking the idea of borders themselves. ellison claimed the u.s. border is quote "an injustice." why? because it keeps people from clearly entering this country. how will we fix this injustice? keith ellison proposes what he calls a global marshall plan. your money sent to mexico and other countries to make them richer. if ellison thinks that foreigners can freely come here while your money belongs to other countries, how is america

different from a colony? we are thinking about that. that's it for us. tune in every night at eight. for the show that is the enemy of pomposity and smugness. sean hannity from new york city right now. >> sean: great show and thank you, welcome to "hannity." the american left and mainstream media will stop at nothing to malign the presidency of donald j. trump. night after night, these attacks on the president and anyone who supports them, they are vicious, absurd, at this point, it's psychotic. right here on a "hannity," we've been onto this game all along. we've been calling out for years. what you've witnessed in the last 48 hours is the latest example of the last anti-trump echo chamber robert gandy all in an attempt to hurt his presidency, delegitimize his presidency and undermined the vote of the american people. we will go over the political hacks who pretend to be so fair