also, trump is horrible. homophobic, they want dirty air, kire horrible than yesterday and the day before. kids. also, trump is they have overreached.orrible. more horrible than yesterday and the day we'll always be fair and balanced.ore. ey have we are not the overreached. we'll alwlwlwlwlwlw destroy-trump-media.lways be fad let not your heart be troubled.c it's time.ed. we are not to ingraham taking over..destroy-t. let not your h >> laura: you know what they need, hannity, they need a "ism" song.. racism, sexism -- laura taking over. >> laura: you know what they need, hannity they need a >> sean: it's the same playbook. every single election is the same playbook. song. racism, sexism -- >> sean: it's the same >> laura: the bushes use a lot playbook. every single of those same things, election e same protectionist, isolationist, so. >> laura: the bushes use a lot the establishment is striking tn back. >> sean: give me one policy --eo the s -- not a trick question.stablishmes striking back. >> sean: give me one policy -- one thing that they are offering not a trick question. one the american people to make thee country better, safer, more prosperous. american people to e >> laura: the left is doing nothing.g. coun all they have is the resistance. you documented it clearly. bette th you have no jet lag.ing. all they h i don't know how you did it.esi. you d >> sean: i feel good.umented ite have a great show.

you have no jet lag. >> laura: good evening. i'm laura ingraham. how you did. this is "the ingraham angle.">>. we have a phenomenal show. have a great show. >> laura: good evening. i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingrah president trump fires backngle." we against the critics of his have. russian meeting.g. president trump fires back against the critics of his we will analyze all aspects ofr. we the media meltdown straight ahead. all aspec of the also, special counsel robert met mueller is making some curious immunity requests. also, special counsel robert mueller is is this just a propaganda ploy?s we'll break it down.a plo raymond arroyo is here with our we'll break it down. weekly "seen and unseen"n"raymoo segment, where political comicsr weekly "seen and is in big-time hot water and a " former president is attacking his own sex. where political cos is in big-time hot water and a former president is attacking his own and the democrats' true plan fos the border. their votes tell a very sad. and t tale.he democts drew plan f details ahead.or the border. they are both first, the anatomy of the freakd tale. out. that's the focus of tonight's "angle.". plus, the anatomy of the freak out. that's the focus of tonight's ever since the president misspoke on monday at the "angle" ." ever since the helsinki summit, the media have spun around like whirling mondae helsinki summit, dervishes, they are giddy with a

excitement.ave spun around like a whirling dervish's, they are giddy with excitement, of course, that is masked info outrage. of course,s masked info out never has so much been made of so little. been >> dan coats came to me and somf so littl others, they said they think it's russia.. >> dan coats came to me and some others, they said they think it's i have president putin. he just said it's not russia.hae i will say this. president puti. i don't see any reason why it would be. said i not russia. i will say this. i don't see >> laura: those words have set t off a chain reaction of condemnation without context. tt off a chain reaction of condemnation without >> you have been watching perhaps one of the most disgraceful of performances by perhaps one of the mostt a summit in front of a russianancy an leader but i've ever seen. amera summit in front of >> you should call this the surrender summit. leader but i've ever seen. >> you >> laura: oh, so catchy.hould ce former cia director john brennar tweeted..... >> laurah, so catchy. a former cia director john brennan tweeted... >> john brennan says treasonous.

>> john brennan sa are we talking from your treaso. are perspective, from his perspective, impeachment? your perspective, >> well, i'll let that stand as it is, as to the responsibilityd of the congress of the as united states. it is, as are the responsibil >> laura: don't you miss chuckck of the c hagel?e united states. >> laura: don't you miss by monday afternoon, they were k hagel? preposterous calls for the cia e per prosperous calls for the cia and national intelligence and national intelligence director's t directors to resign in protest.n protest. not not against the president's agas actions, actions, substituting policies l toward russia, but resign over his comments at the press conference.sia, but resign over his comments at the press >> should the director of conference. national intelligence, dan coats, resigned in protest? >> how does gina haspel stay on the job? how does dan coats stay on the job? >> laura: by tuesday morning, the media freak out was evolving speakers are the director of national i territory. it's like the bermuda triangle.n the job? how does dan coats stay on the people who peddle trump hatred for a living, they make a living in at it, they try to outdo onenetr it's like the bermuda triangle. people who bat another, jockeying for the poleg at it, they try to position in their denunciations

another, joc and prescriptions.or the pole position in their denunciations it was -- what's the word? extraordinary.ons. it was -- what's the word? >> we all know that extraordinary. vladimir putin is holding something over donald trump. >> we all know that we do not know what it is.vladig something over donald trump. we do not know what it but we know it must be something extraordinary. is. >> the definition to me is the first word of the impeachment article in the constitution,inie first word of which is treason, bribery, and high crimes and misdemeanors. it article in the constitution, which is treason, bribery, and >> we don't know whether what we are seeing is dementia, psychopathic, compromise, but are seeing is dementia, psychopathic, compromise, b extraordinary.ut what we are seeing is >> laura: [laughs] extraordinary. >> laura: [laughs] they all g they all get together and decidr the multisyllabic word they wile the multisyllabic where they use today? extraordinary. you know what is extraordinary,w the high judgment responses to i what was essentially an error of communication. responso what was essentially a an error the president reiterated his co. the president reiterated his support of the intel community and he tried to clarify his comments on tuesday.o clarify hs comments then there was this from a

cabinet meeting today, whichcabt began with an unfortunate mini d ad-lib. which began with an unfortunate mini >> is russia still targeting the u.s., mr. president? >> is russia still targeting the u.s., >> there has been no president ever as tough as i have been on russia. no president i think president putin knowss a that better than anybody, have o certainly better than the media. he understands it and is not i think president putin knows that better than anybo happy about it.. certainly better than the media. he u he shouldn't be happy about itat happy about it. because there is never been a president as tough on russia as i have been. happy about it because there is never been a president >> laura: okay, when he said "no," you can hardly hear, that only through kerosen "no," you can hardly hear, that only through kerosene on the whp media fire, which in turn lit up today's press briefing. briefin. >> do you >> do you have any comments as e to why he won't be more critical of putin? comments as to why he won't be more >> he was beside him on monday. why wasn't he critical of putinl of putin? >> he was beside him on monday. why wasn't >> why should this president hec have any credibility totical oft americans and what he says? shot have any credibility to americans and what he says? >> laura: d >> laura: don't you love the you media figures talking about someone else's credibility at this point?ut someone else's credibility at this point? the president's offhand remarks

were, let's face it, some self-inflicted wounds. face it,e self-inflicted wounds but the rapid media, democrats, the neocons, the never-trumpers, the neocons, they never traversed, they hope they hope to turn that little tn that little neck into a m nick into a mortal blow.tal blow and now they are just making no sense at all. and now they are just making no sense at all >> we are in a 9/11 national. >> we are in a emergency because our country i1 under attack. national emergency because our country is under attack. issue a issue a subpoena, not only for n the translator and the notes,a, but also for the national not security team. >> if they don't drag the for translator in, they have to finl se out the answers from secretary of state.y don't drag the they have to find the answers to out, from not only theth ambassador, but what else was discussed. to find the answers it's frightening.out, from not e >> we should have another w president take over right now.v >> laura: oh, my god. people get paid to say things n like that. >> l it is stunning.: oh, my god. people get paid to okay. say things like that. we'll get right on rewriting th. constitution party.. okay. we'll get right on rewriting the constitution party. mounting an overthrow of a mounting an overthrow of a duly elected president.

you hear the rumblings of that there. preside you hear the rumblings of that the left has no record to run on. there. the left has no certainly not of the midterms. n on. what have they accomplished? certainly not of the midterms. what have they acc voters and say this is our prescription fo? zero. making your life better. can god say this is our prescription for making your life better. we'll bring you we'll bring you to 4% economic c growth. this is what we will do to hold china accountable on trade. this is what we will do to have a stronger border.ill do to hold they want to abolish i.c.e., fot goodness' sakes. to have a stronger borreate anotherr they want to abolish i.c.e., for goodness' sa that the president is somehow they secretly working behind closed r narrative. that the president is somehow doors to advance russia's agenda.d closed doors to advance russia's and that he is at odds with his own intelligence chief. agenda. and that he is at odds with his own intelligence chief this is patently absurd and i. this is p think they know it is. absurd ai think they know it granted, the president has is occasionally been inartful in granted, the the way he's explained hisresids occasionally position. been sometimes his frustration with the mueller investigation has gotten the better of him. an arn the way he's explained his position. sometimes his frustration wi but when you cut through all ths gotten the better of him. theatrical displays of outrage,e theatrical displays of outrage, trump, in many ways, trump, in many ways, is saying what he has always had, even iff no o no one wants to hear about.ants.

>> i will go along -- it could have china, it could have been i lot of groups. i think it well could have been russia but i think it could it n russia but i think it could well, you know what he's going to have said, could be other w groups. well, you know what he's going to have said, could >> donald trump, in his heart of hearts, is convinced that the br groups. >> donald trump, and his heart of hearts, russia did not meddle. >> laura: the president is is saying that russia isonvinced te russia did not model. >> laura: the responsible for meddling and that they are not alone.t russis responsible for modeling and that they i'm the first to call the president out when he's i'm the first of all the president out of her knees and prec imprecise in his language and he has been. has been. communication is vitally communicat important on the matters of importance like this especially with this being an cloud that continues to hang over his head. but saying that russia is the iy important on the matte only foreign power seeking to -s especially with this being an cloud that side. but saying that russia is the only foreign power it's neither treasonous nor erroneous, it is correct.king t- listen to the director of national security, dan coats. it's neither treasonous nor erroneous, it is correct. listen to the director of national security, dan coats. >> every day >> every day, foreign actors, f

the worst offenders being russia, china, iran, actor's worst offenders being russia, china, iran, north korea north korea, every day, they ary day, they are penet penetrating our digital infrastructure and conducting ar digi range of cyber intrusion attacks conducting a range of against targeting the c united states. intrusion attacks against targeting the >> laura: you hear that? united. russia is one of many foreign >> laura: you hear that? russia is one of many actors trying to disrupt thingsn in the united states. actors trying to disrupt thingsd in the united st coming from these other. across the b, every day, and coming from these other that does not rule out the presence of other foreigns not actors. rule out the presence of other foreign but perhaps the most egregious, actors. but perhaps the most egregious, and revealing of all the lunatic, get them in the rubber room reactions regarding and revealing of all the lunatic, get them in the rubber room reactions regarding trump-russia, once again, comes from the former cia chief john brennan. the man i am sorry to say -- i bren know it sounds uncharitable -- is a complete embarrassment, mai spewing outrageous falsehoods i- is a complete while offering reckless advice., spewing outrageous falsehoods while offering reckless >> would there be a tendency for intelligence gatherers,. >> would there be a tendency for

intelligence briefers, to withhold now some , final intelligence to the to withh president? now sfinal >> there very well might be. intelligence to the president? there might be.re v out of concern.y wel might be. there >> laura: he went on to expand . out of concern. >> laura: he went on to expand on that. out of on that. out of concern that the white house or the president, what would run to sergey lavrov, what would run to sergey lavrov or putin himself. or putin himself. think about that. this is the guy who headed up the cia. the same one i believe who'sis s signed off on the unmasking without a signed off on the unmasking without a warrant. he is essentially urging he is essentially urging current intel officers, or givingintel g basically tacit approval to basically tacit approval their concealing key national in security information from the fe country's current commander-in-chief. country's current.r. commander-in-chief. shame on you, sir that is tantamount to a slow rolling coup. we've gone from charges of gone treason within minutes of from f treason within minutes of frankly of what president trumpy of what president trump said in helsinki, two calls for resignations, to now former intel chiefs said in helsinki, to calls for

resignations, to now former intel chiefs encouraging traitorous acts, traitorous acts, acts against the current duly elected acts at the current duly elected president of the united states.. it is stunning. the next time it is stunning. you pundits a the next time you pundits ands l an end hosts want to see a disgracefuln and treasonous moment, just pull up some of your tv appearances on the dvr and hit play. some ov appearances on the dvr and hit that is "the angle." play. joining me now for reaction is that is "the angle." dan bongino, former joining me now for rea secret service agent and host os dan bongino, former the dan bongino podcast and juan williams, cohost of "the hf the dan bongino podcast and five."." juan williams, great to have both of you on. juan, the president had a coupl. juan, the president had a couple of rough communication of rough communication days, but i say actions speak louder than words. words. the media reaction has been --e it reminds me of the road runneo and wile e. coyote.een -- it reminds me of the road runner and wile e. coyote. trump is road runner and they think, okay, i got the tnt now, we will g trump is road runner and they ht think, okay, i got the tnt now, we will get him and that he juss speeds away. your reaction? i

>> i think the republican thinkn response, laura, your fellow response, response, that is the hole in l, "the ingraham angle." response, that is the hole in i'm thinking of newt gingrich,nk people in the congress who haveh been slow to offer any objectio, pe to president trump, have come to president trump, have come out and out and said, what he did was s, objectionable, and not in what s objectio service to the united states,ndn and they are pundits -- >> laura: they did not say unit, treasonous. and they are pundits -- >> laura: they did not say treasonous. newt gingrich tweeted out, as did i -- as did i -- of the president needed to clarify his remarks. as did i -- of the president needed to clarify his remarks. i set it on monday night with matt schlapp by that is very criticism. i said it on monday night with matt schlapp by that is very criticism. it's not saying that you should embrace him on matters of intelligence or imply that somehow he's back channeling information to the former soviet union. that is so irresponsible for them to say that.r soviet union. that is so irresponsible for them but say that. >> no, i think that they are not asking legitimate questions about the actions. they are asking legitimate questions about the actions. you say actions count more than words, so we look at his actions, and you look at the entirety of that presentation, not only t you say actions count more than words, so we look at his actions, and you look at thebute entirety of that presentation, e not only the press conference, o hour meeting, we

but the later meeting, the earlier two hour meeting, we still don't know the details. the russians say it was great gt meeting. they meeting.pparently think their they apparently think their military agrees, but our agreesr military doesn't know about it.a laura, that introduces questions laura, that introduces questions as to, is this president acting as an american to protect us,, as an american the american people? protect us, the american people? >> laura: you >> laura: you are basicallyre john brennan then.an then. >> brennan said don't >> brennan said don't tell him. he is our president. i respect that. i am saying, he has opened ther. i respect that. i am saying, he has door. opened nobody else opened the door. he opened the door to these kinds of questions in these rebukes.s.he opened the door toe >> laura: dan bongino, the kinds of questions in thesees rebukes. >> laura: dan bongino, the idea that because russiaputin go home and they make their propaganda push to their peopler propaganda pushed to their people, big i lived there in 1983. the propaganda flows freely in . the russia. propaganda flows freelyn russia. i don't take putin at i don't take putin at his wordid on on pretty much anything but thee fact that he is saying, this was a great meeting, big deal. who cares. a great meeting, big deal. that doesn't hurt us if he sayss that. if he says that. >> this is what they always do,, laura. laura.

what's bothering me about this, and juan comments on what's bothering me about this, part and juan comments onarly, he's t actions. but you are ignoring -- listen, particularly, he's talking about actions. but you are ignoring -- listen,a you don't have to agree with these actions. the audience. neither does the audience. there's a lot of libertarians lr out there, laura, who prefer a more noninterventionist laura, a approach..more noninterventionih >> laura: i do. >> before his being when you bee reasonably look at what trump hg has done, he's not a when you reasonably look at what trump has done, he's not a politician -- forget the politician -- forget the words.y i'm not saying the words arethee irrelevant. irrelevant. i'm just i'm just saying when you look at what is actually happening, what is actually happening, combating against the pipeline, the russian economic access the russian economic access necessity, personally sanctioning friends of putin, necessity, personally the attacks on the russian sanctioning friends of putin, the a mercenaries in syria, you don't have to agree with these me both sides.ninterventionist onr, both sides. but suggesting he is a russian but pond while his military wipes sn pond w out russian works, sanctions his out russian works, sanctions billionaires are his buddies,

and billionaires are his buddies, and then cuts off his potential economic lifeline, juan, is unreasonable. economic lifeline, juan, isfrom? unreasonable. where , in that situation you described, remember the russian? >> dan, in that situation you described, remem were attacking us! that is why we responded!r thera i'm just telling you, what abou! that is why we responded! i'm just telling you, what about iran and iran's continued support for terrorism and for assad in syria? iran's continued support for terrorism contrary to american interests.r assad in syria >> juan, did you just say iran?? contrary t did you object when we delivere. >> juan, d pallet full of cash, this is not a distraction. you just say ira? did you >> you are spending the object e conversation.pallet full of cast a distraction. >> you are spending the conversation. i think i disagree with you about the iranian nuclear dealhy but that is not what we are talking about.an nuclear deal but that is not what we are talking about. we are talking about about a ry we are talking about iranian interfering in interference in syria contrary to americanerfern sycontrary to ame >> i get it.rican it. but juan, we have not been a but juan, friend to the iranians either. i don't understand in syria -- i'm missing the point.o the ira. i don't understand in syria --

i'm messin i'm missing the point.1e poin we wiped out russian mercenaries and we are combating the is. iranians in syria. r >> laura: actions versusussian s and we are combating the iranians and serious. ad-libs are sides, it'ss>> laurs legitimate to criticize the communication pushed after versd libs are sides, it's legitimate to criticize the communication pushed after helsinki -- i'm fine helsinki -- i'm fine with that. but jumping to these other conclusions, i think it takes it to another level. to these other conclusions, i think it takes it to another level. "the new york times" is just repo "the new york times" is just reporting that trump was handed documents two weeks before the the election indicating that putinee the inoculation personally ordered the hack into the united states, just that putin literally dropped iny orderer th "the new york times." united stt we'll have to unpack all of in n that." we'll have to unpack all of tha this is where we are. the president gave an interview tonight to cbs news, where he the president gave an interview tonight to cbs news, where he talked about, and try to again clarify this point about the talk intelligence chief and who is a responsible., andry to again clarify this point about the intelligen let's watch. chief >> you say you agree with u.s.hs responsible.

let's watch. >> intelligence that russia meddley in the election in 2016? you ag. intelligence that >> i've said that before. russid in the election in 2016? i have said that numerous times before. i would say that is true, yeah. i would >> laura: your reaction very say quickly, juan?hat is true, yeah. >> laura: your reaction very >> it is a guy trying to clean up after the circus.s.quickly, >> it is a guy trying to americans saw. clean up after it wasn't just verbal missteps r as you describe it. it's futile. americans saw. it wasn't just verbal missteps as you describe it. i think the i think the whole meeting with putin and the fact that we still don't know is an indication thal something is strange here and ii don't know is an indication that something i think for all of us, for you, si thin for dan, for me, we've got to oy wonder, why are zero president behaving in such a way as to introduce these questions? wonder, why are zero president behaving in such a way as to introduce these questions? that is why i said it that is why i said it is not ist just d just democrats. it's not just some crazed or sor liberal pundits. there ar liberal pundits. republicans, there are republicans, your your fellow republicans, raising these very legitimate questions based on his words and his actions. raising >> laura: i think there are abar lot of republicans who never really wanted trump in the first place. think tre are a a few others.. of republicans who never real the majority of the republicanst place. a few

who think this is a be all, end all story of the last fivee majs who think years, are not people who agreed all story of the last f with his more nationalist foreign policy or economic policy. years, are not people who ag great conversation as always.tht thank you so much.list foreign policy or economic poli we have seen some rather. great conversation as always. thteresting political alliancess emerging in recent days with former presidents speaking out r interesting political alliances emerging in recent days with former presidents speaking out more than >> if the u.s. takes the lead, e others tend to follow.. >> if the >> do you really want to say, w, others tend to follow. >> do you really want to say, we are going to make everybody have a big military, but we are not going to help everybody build their own future and change going to help their own lives? >> you have far right partiese their own labs? >> you have far right parties that often that often time are based not just on platforms of based protectionism and closed borders, but also on barely hidd borders, but in racial nationalism. >> laura: are we seeing a newd in racial kind of political paradigm bein. >> laura: are we seeing a created in the age of trump? new kind o joining us now to analyze this and the breaking news out ofin o "the new york times" asf trump?y karl rove, former senior advisos and the breaking news out o to president george w. bush. "the new york times" as karl, it's great to have you on karl rove, former senior advisor karl, it's great to have you on1 to president george

the show.w. bush. karl, it's gme on "the ingraham angle." thank you so much for coming on. what about that? the first firn "the ingraham angle." thank you so much for coming on. the last couple of weeks, you what about that? had obama, clinton, anddthe lasu george w. bush, not directly had referencing the president, but d george w. bush, not directly referencing the president, but clearl clearly, they are not so thinly veiled references to his governing style, and theo thinly veiled references to his substance of his policy. your reaction? style, and the >> president clinton andnd substance of his policy. your reaction? >> president bush 43 were speaking at a seminar in little rock ford president bush 43 were speaking the presidential scholars, a at a seminar in little rock for program that they and thee presr program that they library and the lbj library have.ry i don't see that that was anything other than just see t responding to questions andt ths an talking about their views on, ot responding to for example, leadership, questid talking about their president bush made the point v, for example, leadership, president bush made the point that the world depends upon american leadership, and when america leads, the worldldthat n american leadership, and when amer follows.leads, president obama's speech, i rea follows.

it at length, it is a typicalend it at length, it is a typical obam obama performance, very long. there are parts of it thatat appeared to be directed at partf president trump. but there's a bunch of it that e think, it's got to be put in tht context of, he's appearing ini think, it's got to be put in the south africa, he is being hosted by nelson mandela's widow, he'sn giving a lecture, he's in the ns presence of the new president on south africa who has come to the presence of the has come to officea huge conflict inside south africa ona huge conflict inside south africa over a corrupt predecessor over a corrupt predecessor who t president obama described in his sps exactly what president obama described in his speech as a sto demolished the strong man who demolished the is institutions within south africa and engaged in crony capitalism and undermined a sense of democracy. engaged in crony capitalism a had an election but it wasas undermined a sense of democracy. had an election but it clearly phony. was clearly phony. he was heralding -- it's annhe s unusual speech because at heraln unusual speech because at one point, he talked about inn on south africa, the importance ofo

markets, but it's -- there areao points that clearly --markets, t >> laura: it was wild. karl, hold that thought. are points that clearly -- more on this breaking news out s of "the new york times" next. rl, hold that thought. more on this breaking news o are you ready to take your wifi to the next level?

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>> i would. do he's in charge of the country, a just like i considered myself to responsible? >> i would. he responsible for things thatat happen in this country. country, certainly, as a leader of thee o be respons country, you would have told ofr responsible, yes.his country. certainly, as a >> which sentiment? leader of te country, you would >> very strong on the fact thatf responsible, we can't have meddling, we can't have -- i let him know that we can't have this, we won't haveee it. can't have -- i let him know that we can't and that is the way it is goinge to be.n't have it. >> laura: that was and that is the way it is going to be. >> laura: that was president trump earlier tonight, president tr hours before this report broke from "the new york times,"his essentially saying that therepoe from "the new york times," essentiall president was told that putinint did personally call for the presiden hacking into our election.t ton did personally call for the hacking into our election. ka karl rove is back with us, rovet joined by richard goodstein, democratic strategist and policy expert. sol wisenberg, former deputy democratic strategist and policy independent counsel during expert. whitewater., former deputy karl, i had to interrupt you independen before we broke were commercialg whitewater. karl, i what is your reaction this had u befo "new york times" report?re we bo it doesn't really surprise mes r because brennan was onto those s "new york times" report? russia behind the meddling six it doesn't really surprise me because brennan was onto months earlier, from what ihose russia behin could tell.d the meddling s

it doesn't really surprise meari could tel that the president would be briefed on it. >> it doesn't surprise me that the president would either.t doesn't frankly, remember early in the e either. administration, i think thee frankly, remember early in the administration, i think the presid administration, i think the1ad h to used president had a line that i wise said early and has termed that of course he would like to know if anybody modeled in his election because he would like to make to used on monday, which is, he said early and has termed that of course he would like to know if anybody meddled in his presid election because he would like to make sure it would stop. i wish the president had that going on monday.e. this latest report doesn't me surprise me. was the what did surprise me was the ability of the mueller ability o investigation and our governmenr investigat cyber forensic to be able to got cyber forensic to be able to identify the specific sectors, 12 actors, he mentioned those guys in the office and the gru,, 12 actors, he mentioned those guys in the office and the dr you, and going online and seeing their names and asking the question, how could they tell it was us. and going online and seeing their names and asking the question, how could they tell io was us. >> laura: sol, i want to ask you about that. the indictment last friday, one indictment, 12 russian officers. indictment, 12 what of that? russian officers. to me, i thought, why name them? to me, i t

why not keep that under seal an? see if one of them comes to united states.keep that unr sead see if one of them comes to united states. apparently some of them have been to the united states. what is the theory?ntly some ofe been to >> i don't know the theory is.t. what is the theory? >> i if you don't put them undernow t seal, you know you will never i. if you don't put the get them over here.m under seal, you know you will never get them over here. they are gru officers. the point of the indictment, of. the point of these people will never appear , these people will never in the u.s. court where the point of the indictment was to.e point of the indictment was to buy mueller sometime meant to say, i am doing things, doing important things, but it buy mueller some time meant to s say, i am doing things, doing important things, but it is a a seeking indictment. i don't doubt that i don't doubt that he will prove that, it's just that he will never be called on to prove it. >> laura: indictments to our it. >> laura: indictments to our viewers, just to be clear again, viewers, just to be indictments are the charges, you do not yet see the evidence, obviously they wouldn't put itru do not yet see the evidence, ob they are thevery sensitive. they are the charges againsthart these individuals. people forget, these individuals. people forget, where'd you weree indicted -- a lot of people aree aren't i did, and they are indicted, and they are not not guilty. liberals used to guilty. believe that. not saying they aren't

liberals used to believe that. . people have to remember, if we will blame trump not saying they aren't guilty. smart verbiage, we have to bee smart with our verbiage, will blame trump for not having smart verbiage, we have to be smart with our verbiage, too. l, >> laura, in every case, the cae judge tells the jury, the indictment is not proof or, the evidence.udge tells the jury, the indictment is not proof or evidence. yet i saw on the other networksn constantly, here we have the proof, here we have thenstantlye evidence. proof, here we have the evidence. if mueller didn't think he had that come he's perpetrated a massive fraud and i don't thinka massive fraud and i don't t he has. but andy mccarthy made the but and comment that basically, now, all the russians are presumed the comment that basically, now, all the russians are innocent because this has been put into an indictment. presumed innocent because this has been put into an indictment. the real point the real point is, this is a i speaking indictment meant to bua speaking indictment meant to buy for baba mueller. >> laura: no americans named in it, no american's actions sp referenced.eakingictment meant y nevertheless, it ate up the new cycle and the presidento americ nevertheless, it ate up the new cy the timing, said it was okay tos the timing, said it was okay to hand down the indictment. hand down the indictment.ey chee white house and he said it was okay.

kind of kills the narrative that trump was worried about the they checked with the white house and he said it was okay. kind of kills the narrative that trump was worried about the indictment. i react your reaction, richard? >> can i react to "the new york times" story? what's newsworthy about it as as one of two things. either trump has no faithhone o either trump has no faith whatsoever in the intelligence comm whatsoever in the intelligenceb, community because if he does,jur "new york times" just today, there is anotherry i "new york times" story saying, i hold putin hold putin responsible just like people hold responsible for whas goes on here.pons just like people hold responsible for what goes on here. if you were told two weeks before the indictment that putin if you were told two weeks before the indictment that putin personally and directly was overseeing the subversion of the u.s. democracy, that is not, oh, he runs a country" -- that is very specific. trump still can't acknowledge that. that is troublesome. subven of e u.s. democracy, that is not, oh, he runs a country" -- that is very specific. >> laura: that is what he saidid that. that is troublesome. >> laura: that is what he said tonight on the "cbs news." that is what he tonight on the "cbs news." said that is what he said tonight. putin is responsible. he's in charge of the country. he's in charge of the country. >> that is different.>> that to say he is responsible because he's in charge of the country is like saying, the manager is responsible -- responsible becae he's in charge of the country is like saying, the >> laura: this is whereanager is responsible -- >> laura: this is where karl rove, with your experience

in the bush administration, they are pl karl rove, with your experience in the bush administration, they multilevel are playing -- i hate the multilevel chess reference -- c- but he does have other concerns other than just what is but he does have other concerns other than just what is happening in the mueller investigation, with "the new york times" will publish.ewk times" will he just had this meeting with te putin.ting with pu i imagine -- he reference thisis i imagine -- he ref today, karl, they were talking about israel, iran, syria, this today, karl, they were talking abou nuclear nonproliferation,ael, i, nuclear nonproliferation, getting back some semblance of whatever normal relationship with russia is.ack some semblanf whatever normal relationship that does come into play, and obama references, karl, back inn that does come into play, and obama references, karl, back 2014, insulting someone on the n 20 world stage, that doesn't accomplish anything.the world stage, that doesn't accomplish anything. i don't recall george w. bush i don't recall george w. bush insulting putin, whether at the ranch or the clintons when theye were meeting, when hillary was ranch or the clintons when they were meeting, when hilla meeting.as you don't insult people even ifn you know they are trying to mes' around with our system, which ef they always have been trying tos around with our mess around with our system. syh they always have been trying to mess around with our system. >> i agree with you. president trump should not have.

president trump should not have been there for the purpose of slamming president putin to his face. nor am i worried about been there for the purpose of slamming president putin to his face. nor am i worried about having ah solitary meeting. one-on-onebush met on aa one-on-one -- literally drove the king of saudi arabia around his ranch in crawford and the king of sau discussed very important issues. his ranch in crawford and di i think that his overreach.usse. i think t i think the president needed to. i think project strength on monday, ando project strength he didn't come up his words. ond he didn't come up his when he was asked that question. when he could have answered in a way, he could have answered her in a way thatld have -- putin would have known that he was upset about it, and knew that theuld s upset about it, and knew russians were behind it. it could have been the russians were behind it. straightforward and strong it could have been straightforward and strong without being insulting. the president didn't hit that ig note on monday.. he did better job in cbs the president didn't hit that note on monday. he did tonight. better job in cbs even that tone would've been fine on monday. there is no reason for them to even that tone wout for the sake of insulting world leaders, if you are trying to find a way forward.d.fine on there are important things wen need to do. for them to insult leadeous questions aboutt the russians, living up to theie of i you are trying to find a waysile forward. there are important things we

need to do. we have serious questions ab treaty. the russians, living up to their treaty we have a treaty with them, agrs negotiated by president bushsht. we have a treaty with them, that comes up for renewal in that comes up foreapons. we have concerns about them in n 2021 a nuclear weapons. we have concerns about them in that regard.d. i hope the president brought that regar up -- they are not helping us it up -- they are not helping us in north korea.a.north korea. sergey lavrov shows up one w before the meeting in singapore, shows up to basically tell th before the meeting in singapore, shows up to basically tell theo, don't north koreans, we got your back. don't worry. >> laura: "it's going to be okay." >> laura: "it's going to be i think the president she gavev" i think the president she gave an address to the nation about this, an address to the nation about this, and sol, richard, karl, hd talks about the relationship with russia, what they discussed to this meeting, and what couldo this meeting, and what could be improved, no mueller be reference, no peter strzok imprr reference, none of that, butncek reference, none of that, but give give an address to the nation. o fantastic panel, guys. the natio thank you so much. i know it was short with this breaking news.k you so by the way, sacha baron cohenwat could be in legal hot water. oh, goody.ng news. by the way, speaking of legal problems. and will a movie about justicee. oh, goo

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>> laura: it's time now for our "seen and unseen" segment where we expose what's behind the big c >> laura: it's time now fortu our "seen and unseen" segment where we expose what's behind the big cultural stories of the day. he calls himself a comedian. sacha baron cohen, and he's he pranked everyone from sarah com. sacha baron palin to ted koppel. and he's could his stunts now land him in praying to everyone from sarah palin to ted koppel. good for now, we are joined by the he best-selling author raymondd hin legal trouble? for now, we arroyo. cohen's new show "who is joinede america?" premiere this weekend best-selling author raymond arroyo. but the real question, who the heck is watching? >> not too many people. america?" premiere this weekend but the real question, it premiered who the with only 207 -- .1 in the demo. not too many people. if you have those ratings, youid with would go into retirement. >> laura: at 3:00 a.m., i get o. if you have those ratings he would those ratings. go >> here is the point. into retid >> l though cohen was able to snicket

those ra people like dick cheney, sarah >> here is palin, and others, there was a . though cohen was abl riverside, california, gun shopr people like dick cheney, owner, whom when cohen walked sh palin, and others, in, his name was noris, he saw s through this charade early on. a riverside, california, gun shop owner, whom when cohen walked in, his name was watch.oris, he saw >> i just kept looking at theet. guy and i was like, you are borat. watch. >> i just kept looking at the as soon as i said that, hey andw turned right out the door. once i knew it was borat, we are borat. as know his game and his [bleep],ne we knew he makes a mockery of turned right out the door. once i gun owners, the gun business, gun shops. his [bleep], we knew he was he dumb i care t make a mockery of gun owners,d a the gun business, script teaching children how to. >> he got some of them to use firearms. read a script teaching children how to us again, it's to embarrass people. again, it's to embarrass people who own gun who own guns, who liked guns, l, and cohen was dressed as a hungarian immigrant brady look like a runaway from dressed as a hungarian immigrant brady "duck dynasty." look [laughter] >> laura: i was just going to say he looked like from "duck dynasty." [laughter] sleep when i was just going to

"duck dynasty."y he looked they make one of the good old le "duck dynasty." they make one of boys, that they are dumb, and gd boys, that they that good old boys are right dud that good old through that lame costume, boyst through th little fraidy cat, trying to do, little fraidy. he should have turned it into a joke. cat, he ran out. trying to do some sta what a wuss. up. he should have turned it into a joke. he ran out. >> there were some billboards what he was. around l.a.. >> there the problem with the stolen valor act of 2013, something prn valor applies to cohen, he act of 201g applie impersonated a war veteran. it doesn't apply. to cohen, he impersonated a war veteran. it it's about wearing the medal, a false medal. it's about wearing >> laura: i think is the impersonating comedian myself. a false model. >> laura: i there is a new ruth think is impers bader ginsburg biopic.onating c. there is a new ruth >> you have your tickets? bader ginsburg biopic. >> you have your tickets? >> laura: i'm >> laura: i'm ready, ready, rea, ready. ready, it's called "on the basis ofy. it's called "on the basis of sex." sex" ." is that is that the joke? >> that's not it. >> laura: it's coming under fire for potential inaccuracies. what are they? is coming under e for potential inaccuracies. >> first of all, portraying ruth what are they? bader ginsburg as an actress por named felicity jones.aying ruth bader ginsburg as

i'll put up a picture of themicm side by side side by side. you can compare. you think you can compare. do you think this evokes ruth th bader ginsburg? i believe it it t bader ginsburg?the i believe it it to the audience. [laughter] audience. [laugh the bigger problem -- it's thee doily --igger problem - >> laura: they are both it's t beautiful and their own way.y. >> laura: they are both beau >> of felicity joines had the doily, it would be better. >> of felicity >> laura: she's super nice.nes e doily, it would be better. >> laura: she's super nice. i spent new year's eve with her i spent new year's eve with 1986. her 1986. >> they played a trailer of this movie, and legal scholars are going crazy. watch. this movie, and legal scholars are going crazy. >> you think you can change the watch. country, you should look at heru generation. think can change the country, you they are taking to the streets.r gene >> protests are important.tion. they are taking to changing the current dominant culture means nothing of the law doesn't change. >> what did you see your nameta. was?s? changing the current dominant culture means nothing of the law >> ruth bader ginsburg. doesn't change. >> what did you see your name >> the word "woman" does not was? >> rut appear even once in the u.s.er >> the word " >> nor does the word "freedom," your honor. does not appear even once in the u.s. constitution. >> >> the word "freedom" appear in" your honor. >> the the constitution? it's the first amendment.m" appn

>> laura: [laughs]th >> this screenwriter, who is co? it's the first ame ruth bader ginsburg's nephew, >> laura: [laughs] >> this screenwriter, who says what she is pointing to iss the constitution as it washew, says what originally adopted before the bill of rights.the constitutions and that is why she says freedom originally adopted before the bill of rights. present appear in the original. and that is why she says freedom present >> laura: this is like appear i. >> l wouldn't or would --aura: th is >> all i say is, when they cast my life story, i want someone as pretty as felicity jones. [laughs] would -- >> all i say is, when they cast my life story, i want someone as pretty as felicity jones. >> laura: you have to get toghs] this next part. >> speaking of gender politicseo this next part. and equality, barack obama and >> speaking of johannesburg, spoke out againstr his own sex today. and equality, barack obama and johannesburg, spoke out against his own >> men have been getting on my nerves lately. today. >> men i just -- every day, i read they nerves lately. i just -- every day, i read the newspa newspaper and i just think, brothers, what's wrong with you guys? think, what's wrong with us? brothers, what's wrong with you guys? what's wrong with us? what's wrong with us?1le we are violent, we are bullyinge >> violent and bullying. bullyi.

>> laura: men are, like, the target -- violent and bullying. >> this is toxic masculinity,>>, the term that is so popular. the target -- >> this is toxic masculinity, the the notion is that masculinity,s robust masculinity, leads to the notion is that bullying or assaults upon women, robust you know what leads to assaults upon women? to bullying or assaults upon women. men who are not taught to be gentlemen.t leads to assaults that is the problem. upon women? men who are not taught to be that all of these studies comin. that is the problem. that all of these studies coming in certain industries like filmy they did a study, film review critics, okay, 68% male as film, they did a study, opposed to 32% female.ilm review critics, okay, 68% m >> laura: who cares?as opposed to 32% female. >> laura: who cares? >> they say this is why femalele flicks that have all-female case flicks that have members, "ghostbusters" "oceans 8" -- cast they flop. members, "ghostbusters" >> laura: they are bad movies. "oceans 8" -- they flop. >> laura: >> 78% of the people in publishing are women. >> laura: then they have to 78%n equalize it. more men have to be hired. >> laura: the >> i worked with a lot of these women. have to equalize it. you know why they are there? not because they are women, because they are good. they are people that should be ?

not because the in these positions. are women, because they are good. they are we should not be worrying about gender equity. should be in these positions. we should not be some people are better in some professions than others. leave it alone. gender equit >> laura: i think i will get one of those doilies.e professions than others. >> every night.ave it alone. >> laura: i t very attractive. >> laura: i never liked the doilies. sandra day o'connor started it.. very attractive. >> laura: >> i almost want to grab a vasee doilies. sandra day o'connor started >> laura: it reminds me of. >> i almost want to grab a vase. what my grandmother said -- democrats are shamelessly exposing their new immigrationmr and border security agenda, sai- democrats are shamelessly raymond. exposing their new we will tell everyone what is in next. and border security agenda, raymond. we will tell everyone what is

♪ >> laura: today, the house passed a resolution to support the mission of t >> laura: today, the house passed a resolution to support the mission of the officers of i.c.e. by a vote of 244-35. if it seems a little low to you because only 18 democrats a part it seems a little low to of the measure. you 133 of those pretty ones voted because only 18 democrats a part of the measure. profiles in courage.

133 of the vote is hardly surprising ty once you listen to the rhetoricd "present." generation of democratic leaders. inourage. the vote is hardly surprising once you >> corporations, certain peoplec of the new generatio get certain rights, can go backk democratic and forth across the border, le. seeking out the lowest wages, >> corporations, certain people get certain rights, can go back and forth across the border, seeking out and forth to go across the the n border, seeking out the highest regu wages.lar people cnot go back and forth to so what it creates is ancross te bo imbalance. seeking out the it creates a justice. wages. so what it >> we have to occupy all of it.n imbalance. it creat we need to occupy every airport. >> we have to occupy all of it. we need to occupy every border, we need to occupy eve we need to occupy every i.c.e. , we need to occupy office, until those kids are ev, back with their parents. we n period.o occupy every i.c.e. office, until those kids are back >> laura: alexandria loves thehr word "occupy." it's occupy everything. alexande to discuss the democrats' real word "occupy." immigration agenda, fox news it's occupy everything. to discuss the contributor rachel campos duffyl immigration and back by popular demand, juan williams joins us. fox news thank you so much for coming back.r rachel campos duffy and back by popular demand, juan williams joins us. thank you s we had a guest who unfortunatelw

was pulled over by the police on the way to the studio. unfortuny [laughter] that is live tv at its finest. that is a kind of stuff that was pulled over by the police on the way to the studio. [laughter] that is live tv at its finest. rachel, the democrats -- i thint usuall they have been boxed in by the . ra republicans, quite smartly., thk they have been boxed there is a contender that believes that it's time to go s. there is much bolder on the issue ofontet be amnesty and immigration and mako much it easier for people to applydee for asylum. issue of amnesty and i once you cross the border with e family unit, a judge says youe y for asylum. once you cro can't be deported right away. ta family unit, a will the democrats lose anythins with this vote? you can't be deported right away. with the democrats lose anything with this vote? >> i >> i don't know. don't know. you talk about being boxed in. they are being boxed in by alexandria ocasio-cortez.they ay al republicans often say that a oct socialist is an honest democrat. republicans often say that and she is young, she is bold, a socialist is an honest and she is politically naiverat and she is enough to have told the truth.o, and she is politically naive enough to have tol and for a while, i think her tr. and for a ideas, abolishing i.c.e., open r ideas, abolishing borders, socialism, she's a.c.en

borders, openly socialist, all the stuffa that the democrats are excitingf because her a election wasem shocking and they have pulledtsg because her a elect their masks off for a minute ans shocking and mark pocan, representingy have d their masks off for a minute and wisconsin, came up with a bill , to abolish i.c.e. and everyoneeg wisconsin, came up with a bill d is really excited and then they pulled it and they realized thad the american people weren't wite them so they pulled the punch.pt republicans with this billhis bl forward and they still want to forward and they still want to speak to that base, get everyono excited, the party of bernie, ty the party of alexandria excited, the party ocasio-cortez, and they voted o, the party of alexandria "present" instead of for the bill, which is what they really believe.hey voted "present" instead of for the they really believe in the samet things that alexandria does. rey believe. they really bel >> laura: juan, is that the case. t same you only had 80 democraticgs th. >> laura: juan, is that the voters support immigration customs enforcement. you only had 80 democratic you know this, they do such voters support immigration great work on sex trafficking,g, you know this, they do such grea human trafficking, breaking up n of the cartel, narcotics sex t operations., man trafficking, breaking up of the cartel, narcotics operations.

but only 18 but only 18 democrats? >> remember, we've only had dem? >> remember, we've only i.c.e. since after 9/11. had i. about 15 years of i.c.e.e. sinc. in the view of people on the about 15 years of left, laura, i.c.e. is i.c in the view of people on the left, implicated in the separation ofi children from parents and not implicated in the separation of children fro only that, raiding communities, business, making people only that, rating communi extremely nervous about their business, making status here. people exely nervous about their status >> laura: then reform i.c.e. he. don't abolish it. breaking up families. >> laura: then r >> the political maneuver here was that the democrats -- thisb. speak about the political is the boxing you were talking about -- the democrats initialle democrats -- this is the boxing you were talking about -- said, let's vote to abolish i.c.e. that the republicansts is pulled the bill and came back let's v with his later, which is, let's. that the republicans pulled the vote in support of i.c.e. bill and came back with both sides are playing big politics. his later, which is, let's vote in support of i.c.e. both >> laura: let's listen -- i sidg politics. >> laura: let's listen -- i want you guys to react to what some of the democrats today were saying about this i.c.e. issue, immigration enforcement in want you guys to react to what some of the democrats today were

saying about this i.c.e. issue, immigration enforcement in general. >> i'm voting present on this resolution because it is a sham and a distraction. a sham it's shameless and it'ss and a inappropriate. distraction. >> what we have today is a a it's shameless and it's shameless, spineless group ofop. >> what we republican congressional enablers. today is a shameless, spineless group of republican congressional enablers. >> you take your marching orders from laura ingraham and tucker carlson quicker t >> you take your marching orders from laura ingraham and tucker carlson quicker than the president takes his marching orders from the kremlin. >> you are powerful, kremlin laura ingraham.. [laughter] >> you are powerful, >> i have to jump in there. >> i hra: i don't think i'veauau even talked about this vote.ra:e even talked about this i don't think i've ever talked . i about this vote on the show. talking about i.c.e. but not tad about the vote. we've been covering other issues. rachel, go ahead. about the vote. we've been >> there's all this talk about r russian influence going on.. rachel, go ahead. >> there's all if you really think about it, tt russian influence going on. the real takeover of the if you really think about it, the real marxists, the socialists, the tt old soviet union, on the marxists, the democratic party and on americai universities. the old soviet union, on the democratic party a alexandria ocasio-cortez as a on product of a marxist socialist universities. alexandria ocasio-cortez as a

anti-american ideology that is product of a marxist socialist permeating and has for several anti-american ideology that is permeating and has for several decades now, permeated american higher education and out decades now, permeated americang higher education and out going into high schools and lower. that is a real concern i have that is a real with russian influence. concerne it's on the democratic party and on our education system.'s the d on o >> laura: juan, final word from you. system. ocasio-cortez to denounce capitalism, she uses the lingo >> laura: juan, final word from you. of the far left and marxists,ioe capitalism, she uses the the kind of stuff you hear a lio thursday night seminars at a ant university..the kind of stuff yu >> i think people -- hear a thursday night seminars at a university. >> she is the future of your>> party. is the >> i think people on the rightuo >> thinking her up, she's 28 years old. people on the right ar i don't think she's veryating h, politically sophisticated but s8 years old. i don't guess what. think she's very politically sophisticated but guess what. when when it comes to things like health care, education, when itt comes to making sure that people have a living comes to making sure that peoplt americans say yes to these have a living wage, most things. americans say yes to these things. >> most americans believe in the >> most americans b

rule of law and if you want to e rule of law and if you want reform i.c.e., you don't occupy reform or resist..e., you don't occupy or >> laura: i'm giving two resist. >> laura: i'm giving two thumbs up to alexandria ocasio-cortez.p to alexandria ocasio-cortez. keep going, keep evolving, keep changing. >> she's a true seller. keep evp changing. >> cheese a true cellar.ly >> laura: facebook finally apologizing to diamond and silks but the social media giant isngq facing more questions over censorship. herman cain will explain. censorship. stay there.herman cain will exp. stay

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♪ >> laura: earlier this year, pro-trump social media stars >> lau diamond and sold publicly earli accused facebook of censoring y, prodrome social media their content. stars diamond and sold trump didn't believe them. just yesterday, a facebook exec issued a public policy for thefk dynamic duo. of censoring their content.cknowledge a video trumped it and believe them. just yesterday, a facebook exec issued a public policy for the blogger is known as diamondddync itself. we badly mishandled our communications with them.am since then, we have worked hard itself. we badly mishandled our communications with to improve our relations.hem. since then, we we appreciate the perspectivee d to improve our they add to our platform. relat. we appreciate the perspective they add to ourwas good.d. joining me now to discuss that . >> laura: that was goo and other charges of censorship, against facebook, former and republican presidentialf candidate, herman cain. herman, i think you were on tha, former republican or week when diamond and silk issue presidential candidate, herman ca rose to prominence prominence homan, i think you were on that week when diamond and they were being dismissed bd

the left. silk issue rose to prominence people were saying they were exaggerating to get publicity.hr actually, that was a nice moment dismissed by the left. people were saying they were exaggerating to get publicity. from facebook. they said we didn't handle thist from facebook. they said right.we didn't handle this they should give more apologies i think.. >> laura, they admitted, i facebook did, that they didn't . >> handle it right. l then they went back and said that they corrected it. i talked with diamond and silk personally last week and they are still getting the runaroundd that they corrected it. i talked with diamond and silk personally last week the people that are appearing ay are still getting the runaround. the peopl before congress are professional spinsters. that are appearing that is what is happening.er they will say one thing but what that is is actually happening does not . they will say one thing but what match. actually i know from personal experiencet match. that a lot of that censoring is i happening. know from personal ee that a lot my website, other people that is have talked to, their websites, happening. my website, other people that i have are basically because of thisd ,

are algorithm that mysteriously thes algorithm that have developed that nobody knowy what it is, it is doing that thy have developed that nobody knows what it censoring and they are in deniat censoring and that they are in fact trying tol censor conservative content.thao >> laura: darrell issa raised censor this issue about the socialonse. >> laura: darrell issa raised this media giants and what the issue implications could be of the abe size and scope and how big theyl are. giants and what the implicatio let's watch. could be of the size and scope and how big >> aren't you absorbing they are. responsibility and shouldn't we. hold you responsible, at least >> aren't you absorbing the to the level of care that newspapers, ever so poorly, are responsibi held to? sho't we hold you responsible, at least to the level of care that newspapers, ever >> laura: herman, here's the po, problem. held to? >> laura we have companies now that havee problem. we have companies now that have ea earnings that are a multiple oft many sizable countries. are they have an enormous amount of power. a multiple of we are talking about an many sizable countries. information flow. they have an enormous amount of facebook is neither -- it we are talking about an shouldn't be a censor, shouldn'. facebook is neither -- it shouldn't be blocking certain views. be at and they also can control

be blocking certai everything on their platform. and they also now they have come out with something, facebook can remove misinformation that leads to violence. something, facebook can remove misinformation that leads to violence. oh, i hope that is never going oh, i hope that is never going to be used to target conservatives. or liberal speech for that matter..or liberal speech for tt matter. once you start once you start getting into that realm, i will determine content, then i think that you are opening the door to real realm, i w problems. >> if it was about -- problems. >> if it >> laura: isis or something. was >> if it was associated with ab- >> laura: isis or something. >> if isis, that is one thing. it was otherwise, it is like asking a h isis, that is one thing. otherwise, it is like asking a fox to guard a hen house. that is almost laughable. a hen. that is almost laughable. all of the people within all of the people within facebook and all of the other af organizations that have the social media platforms, they otr simply have a culture of notot organizations that have the social media platforms, they simply have a culture of not wanting wanting to basically pass on conservative content. i don't believe that we will co. i don't believe that we will ever be able to accept theirevet

judgment in terms of what they consider to be hate speech, ther judgment in terms of what they consider negative speech, et cetera. be , negative speech, i happen to believe that individuals are going to have tn individuals are going to have to take charge of what they do with that information. take charge of what they do with that the fox guarding the hen house is not going to work.the i don't care what they say to congress.g the hen house is not going to work. i don't believe that it is the true story as to what's really w happening.hey say congress. i don't believe that it is the true story as to what censoring is in fact happening.y i know it for a fact. a lot of other people that i in. i k have talked to also know it for a fact. for a fact. a lot of other people that i >> laura: herman, it's so funny, everyone is thinking alsr about gender, ethnicity, race, a fact. >> laura: herman, i religion, it would be nice to funny, know how many conservatives wors at facebook. thinking about gender, ethnici it would be nice to have some r, religion, it would be nice balance across the ideological spectrum. to kn conservatives work at faceboo maybe we would get moree it w fairness.icee some thank you very much, herman. balance across the when we return, we will remember a true hero.ical spectrum. herman. when we return, we

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>> we want to take a moment to honor secret service agent neil ram again who died tragically after suffering a stroke during donald trump's trip to the uk. his body was returned to the united states and his casket met ones and colleagues along with the president and the first lady. secret service agents have one of the most stressful and thankless jobs out there. they quietly, heroically put themselves in harm's way to protect our nation's leaders. a go fund me page has been created for his family and raised more than $150,000. we encourage everyone to check it out and may he rest in peace. shannon bream is up next with another fantastic show, another i know you will have just

another little bit to talk about. thank you, take it away. shannon: an american wanted by the russian government, the white house says they are not putin's proposal to question him. we will talk to the investor at the center of the controversy live in moments. later he is being dubbed the rideshare rapist, illegal immigrant in san francisco accused of raping four women, ice is blasting the sanctuary city policy. our panel is going to9c?ñ? deba. christopher ray defend that russia investigation saying it is not a witchhunt. donald trump says he does hold russia's president personally responsible for temperamental in the 2016 election. standby