>> i will begin by stating that i have full faith and support for america's great intelligence agencies, always have, and i have felt very strongly that while russia's actions had no impact at all on the outcome of the election, let me be totally clear in saying that -- and i've said this many times -- i accept our intelligence community's conclusion that russia's meddling in the 2016 election took place. paul: welcome to the journal editorial report. i'm paul gigot. following heavy criticism from

democrats and republicans, president trump this week walked back his comments on russian election meddling, claiming he misspoke monday during a news conference with vladimir putin when he said he couldn't see any reason why moscow would have interfered in the 2016 campaign. those comments causing a firestorm and putting the president at odds with the u.s. intelligence community and members of his own party in congress. this as secretary of state mike pompeo gets set to head to the hill next week where he's sure to face a grilling from lawmakers over just what was discussed at the helsinki summit. as the white house prepares for a potential second sit-down in washington this fall. retired four star general is a fox news senior strategic analyst. general, good to have you here. >> good to be here, paul. paul: after this week of back and forth, where do you think the president's relationship with russia and putin stands? >> i think it's in an early

stage of relationship. he's keen on having relationships. you know, he often talks about president xi which is the long-term strategic threat to the united states of america to be quite frank about it. paul: china. >> as a result of that meeting, and i think he credits himself as a result of a relationship he was able to make some progress on north korea with china. whether that actually bears the fruit we think it may remains to be seen. but i think he uses that as a framework, i'm going to have relationships and possibly even though the disagreements are significant, we may be able to make some progress. i think that's about what this is. paul: okay. he's determined to have that relationship. that would be suggested by the second summit invitation. do you think that's a good idea? >> i don't have any problem with leaders of the world coming together with profound disagreements to talk to each other. i basically think it's actually a good thing. listen, they're not going --

ukraine intractable, syria, extend the new star treaty for five years that's going to expire in 2021 as a result of these two presidents coming together? yeah. can they agree for no nuclear proliferation and put pressure on north korea and also put pressure on iran? is that possible? i think so. paul: okay. let's talk about the domestic politics here because you know to have an effective foreign policy, you need domestic support. and the way the president handled that press conference has really hurt him in terms of his ability, i think, to maneuver inside congress and have the support he needs. why did he get such at odds with the intelligence community judgment about 2016, when he really didn't need to? >> yeah, i mean, listen, monday was a disaster. i think it was a low point of his presidency, to be sure. i don't get it to be frank, paul. i mean, i know that they put a

huge effort into working the issues, prepping the president, preparing him for the four-hour summit, either the bilateral with staff or the one-on-one, but why didn't they prepare for the press conference? paul: the most obvious question that he would get at that press conference. >> yes. it is an appendage to the summit but it is the only place where the whole world is watching you. i'm not an executive position like that, but i have had a few press conferences in my life because things bad happen around my commands, and i rehearsed it, and i would say to the guys okay tell me what the outcomes are, all right, and tell me what the tone of this is going to be. those are the two things i was stuck on, what were the outcomes of that press conference and what should the tone of the president be. both of those were wrong. paul: how much tension is there between, say, jim mattis and his view of his russia and dod people on one hand and also the intelligence services, dan coats, the director of national intelligence and their views of russia and putin with the

president? >> you know, there's a lot of misunderstanding about this. in talking to the people around the president, who i know, the president drives foreign policy and national security, make no mistake about it. paul: correct. >> and listen, i think this president -- i mean despite this week of criticism, he's the toughest guy on russia since ronald reagan, and the facts are on the table. look, the trump defense buildup comparable to the reagan buildup. it has to last a few more years to be sure. increasing the defense budgets in nato. we have deployed additional troops on the eastern border on the russian border. okay? not to the degree we need, but to be sure, putin is paying attention to all those three things. fourth, what we've done in ukraine in terms of anti-tank weapons. and of course we've responded twice to assad's chemical attack, and that's his ally. we're pushing back on iranians, and that's his ally. putin is paying attention to that. he's paying less attention to the rhetoric that goes on here. paul: you mentioned nato.

let's listen to the president to answer a question from tucker carlson on montenegro. >> membership in nato obligates the members to defend any other member that's attacked. let's say montenegro is attacked, why should my son go there to defend it? >> i understand what you are saying. montenegro is a tiny country with very strong people, very aggressive people, and they may get aggressive, and congratulations you are in world war iii. paul: deterrence is the core function of nato or any alliance like this. does a comment like that suggest some doubt about whether or not we're willing to commit to that level of deterrence? >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, one of putin's major objectives certainly he resents the fact that russia strategic buffer from world war ii to the president is gone and that strategic buffer was eastern europe. and they had an agreement in the 90s that, you know, these countries would not become a

part of nato, but they ran towards nato because they feared the intimidation and the coercion of russia. that's what montenegro is all about. they want to get underneath the tent and get some level of protection. that comment there obviously denigrates the whole concept of what this is about. i think that eventually will likely probably come in because of the same reason all the other eastern europeans are in there. paul: right. >> the president will support that, and they will be part of article v collective defense fight for one on behalf of the whole collective operation of nato. paul: if you are putin, you look at that and say, maybe just a tad little bit -- >> no doubt about that. i think he looks at merkel to be quite frank about it. there's guys like me sitting around putin and saying to him, if we took the three baltic capitals, would merkel really commit her infantry? paul: that's exactly -- >> that's a question. paul: it is a question. it is an important one. still ahead, republicans are under pressure to stand up to russia following the president's

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>> there's a possibility that we may well take up legislation related to this. in the meantime, i think the russians need to know that there are a lot of us who fully understand what happened in 2016, and it really better not happen again in 2018. paul: senate majority leader mcconnell under pressure from members of both parties to respond to russian election meddling. and reiterates support for the american intelligence community. following president trump's controversial remarks this week. so what can congress do to contain vladimir putin? let's ask "wall street journal"

columnist, editorial board member, and columnist and manhattan institute senior fellow. mary, i recall clearly last week you said the summit with putin was a bad idea. has the week made you change your mind about that? >> no, it hasn't at all. i think it is safe to say this was not a highlight of the trump presidency. now, as to what congress can do, they are a little limited of course because the executive branch is the one that sets foreign policy, but we have seen congress impose some pretty significant sanctions on russia, most notably after the invasion of ukraine and they could do so again. paul: but how much damage here? before we get a little more on congress, how much damage here do you think this has done after the full week? he reversed himself and second invitation to putin. how much damage has he done to his presidency? >> i'm not a chicken little paul i don't think the world is going to end because of one disastrous press conference. however, trump did take a hit.

i think he looked subservient to putin, i don't use that word lightly. and i think what he's done is unified congress around the idea of cracking down on putin and he's raised concerns among the allies too. let's not forget about them. they rely on us in large part for leadership, whether it's in the baltics or in eastern europe or nato as general jack keane just talked about. and i think the prestige took quite a big hit this week. paul: jason? >> i think they have spent the week trying to clean up this mess. that gives you some idea of how much damage they think was done this week. hurting relations not only with the intelligence community, but also with the european union and nato and also domestically. mary is right. trump supporters like the fact that he doesn't back down. he plows ahead. he doesn't apologize. here he was standing next to vladimir putin, had the chance to tell him we know what you did, don't do it again and trump went wobbly. and i think that he hurt himself

domestically as a result of that. paul: bill, what about this disagreements we're hearing about between some of the intelligence officials and the white house? particularly dan coats, the director of national intelligence. he was -- seemed in an interview to be stunned by the news that the president has issued an invitation for putin to come in the fall, and issued a statement after the summit defending the intelligence community. >> right, well, look, we all know that the russians meddled. everyone knows that. i think even president trump knows it because he walked back his remarks earlier. look, he's still the president. and i think the storm will pass, probably because another storm will come up in its place. [laughter] >> but i would like to see there are interesting ideas out there. first of all, we know from this that the sanctions really bite, right? we know that the russians particularly vladimir putin really hate those sanctions. i think the actions this week will make it much harder to lift those sanctions, which is a good thing. and there are other interesting

ideas. the washington post had a story saying we ought to move our troops from germany to poland. to me that would be an incredible step forward. paul: speaking of congress, 98 to nothing vote this week by the senate warning the president not to take up putin's request to have -- to come and have russian prosecutors interview american officials who might know something about bill browder who is one of the authors of the act, a sanctions bill that passed in 2012 and has sanctioned i think about 51 russians. >> yeah, putin is trying out the classic cold war tactics, paul, where he offers something in return for something that he shouldn't have. president trump of course wants to question the people who were hacking into the dnc servers -- paul: -- last week. >> right, in return putin says oh yeah let me question these 12 americans that i think have committed crimes against russia. and trump fell for it

unfortunately. now -- paul: he stepped back from it. >> because of that backlash from congress, he stepped back. that's a good thing. that also shows that checks and balances in the american system work. but the very idea that the white house spokesperson sarah huckabee sanders didn't immediately shut that down, that putin request, when she was asked about it this week, to me shows a fundamental lack of communication within the administration and a lack of understanding of putin's method and his tactics. >> it also shows an inability of trump to distinguish two things here, which is russian meddling and collusion. he needs to say over and over again yes, we know russia meddled. they better not do it again. my administration had nothing to do with it. paul: they are separate issues. >> they are separate issues. he continues to conflate them and his political opponents have no problem with that. >> why does he keep doing that? >> i think that's all he's thinking is collusion and he's not distinguishing between the two. paul: he's thinking it

undermines the legitimacy on the election. you just make the distinction. he's giving ammunition, bill, to his opponents. what do you think of the second summit? good idea? >> no, i think it is a bad idea. i agree with jason. look, i think a lot of what has led donald trump to say certain things on russia is he doesn't want to give his enemies any quarter and that means saying some dumb things and setting off this kind of storm. that said, i think that again a lot of this is atmospheric. we all get distracted about it. the president like many presidents gets distracted by the idea that having a one-on-one relationship with some dictator is going to improve the situation. that's a perennial problem. and i think the risks here when you don't have something that you want specifically from them shows what can happen. look, with kim, at least we know what we want to do. we want a denuclearized peninsula. i don't think it's a good idea unless you are going to get something that you really want

out of it and you know that beforehand. paul: all right. thank you all. still ahead a vote in the house this week on a g.o.p. resolution supporting i.c.e. calls from those on the left to abolish the immigration agency. a look at how the issue will play in november. when we come back. ♪motorcycle revving ♪ motorcycle revving ♪motorcycle revving ♪ motorcycle revving ♪ no matter who rides point, ♪ there are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. ♪♪ and just like tyrone taylor, they know what it takes to help keep you protected. are you in good hands? if his denture can cope with... a steak. luckily for him, he uses super poligrip. it helps give him 65% more chewing power. leaving brad to dig in and enjoy. super poligrip.

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they actually want to abolish i.c.e. this should cost them heavily in the midterms. we're back with bill, mary and jason. jason, what do you make of the house vote on i.c.e. this week? >> well, it was a bit of show there. but i think it is reflective of the country on this issue frankly, much more than these progressive democrats are calling for the abolition of i.c.e. i think majority of americans want the border better patrolled, paul, not eliminate. this idea that people just want to give up on border security is nonsense. it is also strange given as you mentioned there we've had this child separation issue. paul: right. >> a vast majority of americans have a problem with that. the democrats had a good issue there. why change the subject to abolishing i.c.e.? it doesn't make much sense. paul: yeah, bill, it seems to me that both sides here think that immigration is going to work for them in november. democrats think they can make hey with the fact that daca and the dreamers haven't been

legalized and the family separation. republicans think i.c.e. and the abolition of i.c.e. is an issue for them. who gets the upper hand here? >> well, i think for the last decade and a half or so, the issue has worked for the democrats. and i think there's a lot of suspicion that president obama for example as a senator and as president preferred to have the issue, in other words, accusing republicans of being racist and so forth than to have a resolution. i thought earlier this year that the failure to get something done on dreamers, which is sort of the easiest part of the equation because they were brought here by others. they didn't, you know, come themselves. paul: right. >> was something easier, basically a border wall for dreamers. i thought that might hurt the republicans. but it looks like the democrats are bent on shooting themselves in the foot. the abolish i.c.e. thing comes across as we want lawlessness. i mean, these are the same people pushing sanctuary cities and so forth. and i'm amazed at how they are

taking an issue and making themselves as unattractive as they can be to the american people. paul: immigration seems to me works for the democrats when it is about opportunity and fairness. and it works for the republicans when it's about security. >> absolutely. paul: abolishing i.c.e. mary turns it into a security issue. >> i think that's right, paul. the greater tragedy here is that there was a deal to be done on immigration reform. border security in exchange for legalizing the dreamers, and to bill's point just now, the democrats wanted immigration as an issue under obama. they didn't want a solution. and i think republicans unfortunately are using the same tactic when it comes to i.c.e. they want an issue, not a solution. the democrats don't want to deal so you can't put all the blame on the republicans. but you know i think the dreamers here will suffer. paul: this is a developing trend among democrats, jason. you've got gillibrand, warren,

sanders, three senators all whom want to run for president, all taking the abolish i.c.e. position. is this going to divide the democrats going forward? >> i think it will divide the democrats, especially those who think we're losing white blue-collar workers. i don't know how an issue like eliminating i.c.e. helps attract those. but it's how progressives have really taken over the party, whether it's $15 minimum wage, a single payer healthcare, these used to be fringe issues held by progressives. now they have entered the mainstream democratic thinking. paul: i think you will see a lot of democrats not adopt abolish i.c.e. i think they will just drop it and not talk about it. trump wants to talk about it all the time. that's how he wants to define this issue between now and november. >> i think that's why you saw 133 democrats vote present on this bill supporting i.c.e. and it's also why you saw some pennsylvania democrats, lamb, cartwright vote for the bill because they are in trump

country and they realize that and would like to keep their office. paul: it also accentuates the issue a little bit of crime. you've got ms-13 which ravages some neighborhoods we know here in new york state and elsewhere. and nobody wants that. democrat or republican. but that i.c.e. is fighting that group. >> i think it goes back to your point. it's not just -- it's lawlessness, and if lawlessness becomes a defining part of the issue, the republicans will gain. and they won't back -- they will prefer to keep this as live as an issue. paul: it is a shame because both sides are in their respective camps and we can't seem to get anything done ever on immigration. when we come back, from abolishing i.c.e. to single payer healthcare, a look at the democrats left turn and the growing strength of progressives within the party. karl rove on what it means for the midterms, next. ♪ when i ts ♪ it's so hard to believe ♪ but it's all coming back me.

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another party elder, endorsing progressive state senator kevin deleon over four term senator dianne feinstein. deleon backs a single payer healthcare system. karl rove served as deputy chief of staff and senior advisor to president george w. bush. so welcome, karl. how divided are democrats going into this election? >> well, increasingly divided because you just touched on a couple of them. we've seen this throughout the primary season, that in cases of races where the democrats had a shot to win, they threw it away by going hard left. the key example to me was nebraska too. this is the most democratic part of nebraska. it is part of the state that obama carried, that hilary clinton did well in. they had a democratic congressman until recently.

he was trying to get the democrat nod back again. and he'd have a shot in the general election. but the democrats instead went hard left with a woman named kara eastman who is in favor of medicare for all, free college, guaranteed job with a guaranteed paycheck, and in a midwest district like that, that is sane and sensible, even a lot of democrats are going to find that too much to go for. paul: but you know, karl, look, ocasio cortez it seems to me has a point at least on one thing, and that is enthusiasm and energy and passion. and if you stand for something, you're going to motivate people to vote. in 2010, as you know, the response from republicans to president obama was driven in part by that kind of passion. voters know that trump is going to have the veto authority. but the democrats may be motivated enough to put a check on that and some of these issues may not matter as much. >> well, maybe, but look, she

comes from a very liberal district that is not representative of the country. when she goes out to campaign around the country, she's going to raise questions that local candidates are going to have to raise. in dallas, texas, in the 32nd congressional district, if she comes in and campaigns for collin allred, people will ask him do you agree with her that israel is conducting an illegal occupation of palestine? are you in favor of free jobs, free healthcare, free college? are you in favor of that kind of an agenda? are you a democratic socialist? some of that stuff will work well if you are in, you know, san francisco, but to win the house, the democrats will have to win a lot of seats in places like pennsylvania, michigan, illinois and texas and the parts of california that don't like how they voted in the bay area. paul: karl, then what you do is you don't invite cortez or

warren in those districts you invite bill clinton or somebody who is more popular in those districts. >> sure, but look this is a sentiment that is grabbing -- that is gaining strength inside the democratic party. here in texas they nominated a rock star named robert francis for the u.s. senate against ted cruz. i think it is hilarious we have the robert francis running and we have the cruz running as ted. but he came out this week in favor of impeaching donald trump. it may be popular in the confines of the democratic party but it won't be popular in a red state like texas. take pennsylvania, this is a district held by a republican, won by hilary clinton, they nominate the most left wing guy running in the primary turns out to contributed $300,000 to organizations that support disinvestment in israel and it is -- the district has the 38th

highest percentage of concentration of jewish voters of any district in the country. so yeah, look, it matters that you stand for something. but if what you stand for something is hard left politics, and you're running in sort of middle america, then the democratic party is not going to win as many seats as it might otherwise have won. paul: one of the things we have seen over the last 12 months is the democrats have outperformed what you would have had expectations for voter turnout. that's generated by enthusiasm. a lot of is we saw this in virginia in particular is antitrump enthusiasm. why isn't the best democratic argument were to be simply something like this, we are going to put a check on president trump. you want checks and balances? the republicans aren't doing it. we're going to put the check on trump. >> that would be a good strategy, but instead they've got for the people and increasing numbers of their candidates are defining their agenda by adopting left wing

positions, medicare for all, free college, guaranteed jobs and so forth. but you're right. if they ran a sort of centrist, you know, we're going to work together, republicans and democrats to achieve good things for the country, we're relatively moderate centrist liberal democrats, we're not nuts calling for impeachment. we're not calling for the overthrow of the government. they could win a lot of seats, but that's not the kind of candidates they are nominating in some critical races. but you're right, if they were smart, that's what they would do. take, for example, your old stomping grounds, wisconsin, a left winger running in wisconsin won. it turns out to not only be left wing but turns out to be a deadbeat who couldn't either pay back loans to his former wife or pay his child support payments, but he sounded good to democrats in that district because he was the most left wing. paul: all right, karl, we will see how this evolves in the coming months. thanks for coming in. still ahead, president trump doubling down on auto tariff threats, despite growing

opposition from lawmakers and industry leaders. so can eu officials work out a deal with the administration when they come to washington next week?

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domestic companies, dealers and autopart makers, asking the president not to move forward with the penalties. a bipartisan group of nearly 150 lawmakers urging the commerce secretary to back away from the tariffs. we're back with bill, mary, and jason. so bill, there's a school of thought that says -- has said for sometime, the president's trade threats are really just a negotiating ploy, that he will back away at the end and it won't go ahead. i'm increasingly of the belief that he really wants this kind of a tariff war, and he really wants to stick it to german automobiles. what do you think? >> i hope not. i mean, the problem with trade wars is there are a lot of innocent bystanders that get hurt. you don't always know those costs. i think what you see especially with the european union reaction is when you make these threats, they're more than willing to come back and do the same thing to us. you know, there's not a lot of quiet players.

the chinese would probably prefer to work out a deal quietly with us. but you get into it with the european union, it is like a game of chicken with a truck bearing down on you. paul: jason, the germans, in particular, seem to be his target. he has an obsession -- i don't think that's too strong a word -- were german cars. -- with german cars. [laughter] paul: sounds like he's determined to do it. >> i think he is determined to do it. you have to take him at his word. he's campaigned on this and something he's determined to follow through on for better or worse, mostly for worse i think. particularly in states that helped elect him, paul. that's one of the things that's hard to figure out here, whether it's cars or aluminium or farm products. you have companies like alcoa, aluminium maker, their shares are tumbling because they import from canada. that's gotten more expensive. alcoa is based in pittsburgh. trump won pennsylvania. iowa farmers traveling over to china trying to preserve deals there that have been harmed due

to the chinese trade war. trump won iowa. is this what those voters signed up for? paul: alcoa is a company that was supposed -- an american aluminium maker. it is the kind of company that trump said the tariffs would help. in the earnings call this week, you have them saying the tariffs are hurting. their earnings are down 15% or so. so i guess -- and you see this with the domestic companies and the foreign automakers who invest here. everybody really except for the united autoworkers which has i would say issued tepid support for the tariffs, but everybody else against it. can trump still move ahead in the face of that opposition? >> well, i think it depends on what happens to the stock market, paul. the one indicator that he watches very closely. look, the largest plant in the world is in spartanburg, south carolina, a district that trump won with more than 60%. now, we haven't seen the effects of these tariffs on the markets, but i think when that happens, trump is going to wake up.

now, on the european side, my question is, do the europeans get it yet? because they didn't believe that trump would pull out of the paris climate change agreement. they didn't believe he was going to pull out of the iran deal. they didn't believe he was going to put tariffs on. so if i were sitting in brussels, i would be coming to washington with something to offer trump, whether it's a loosening of i don't know, agricultural tariffs. paul: no, that is not going to work. car tariffs it's got to be. it's got to be on automobiles, and it's got to be at a minimum it would seem to me essentially the same rate on tariffs, and i'm not sure even that is going to work because the germans are going to say, you have a 20% tariff on trucks here. >> i don't know about that, paul. i think if the europeans came with a deal to trump and they could both stand up and proclaim victory and walk away -- paul: yeah, but it has to be on cars. >> i think both sides would be happy. paul: my point is it has to be on cars. it can't be farm products. >> one other point we're making

is other countries seem willing to move on and make deals without us. japan and the eu have gotten together to cut deals without the u.s. we lose out economically in cases like that, but we also lose out in terms of influence in the region. there's much more at stake here than simply cars and tariffs. paul: bill, what about the danger here that this now becomes also a currency war? the president lashed out this week at the falling yuan and the falling euro because of the strong dollar. i don't think he understands that one of the reasons the dollar is so strong is because so much foreign capital coming here because of the tax reform and the deregulation and faster growth. >> it is a vote of confidence in his policies; right? got to know who your friends are. look, i think mary makes a good point when she pointed out about the bmw plants over here. i mean, today what is an american car? what is -- it is such a multifacetted thing. it reminds me for many years, for about 20 years, there was a dumping suit by brother typewriter japanese company building typewriters in america

against smith corona, an american company building typewriters in asia. it just ended. it's just ridiculous. paul: i still have mine, bill, i have you know. i don't know where that was made, but very stylish portable typewriter. i took it on the road in asia. still ahead, google is slapped with a record fine as the european union accuses the tech giant of antitrust violations. what it means for google and its competitors, when we come back. (harmonica interrupts) how they could save 15% or more by... (harmonica interrupts) ...by just calling or going online to geico.com. (harmonica interrupts) (sighs and chuckles) sorry, are you gonna... (harmonica interrupts) everytime. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance.

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paul: the european union this week slapped google with a record 5 billion dollars fine accusing the tech giant of violating antitrust laws by requiring that its chrome browser and search engine be automatically installed on phones that use its android

operating system. andy kessler writes the inside view column for the "wall street journal" and he's founder of the silicon valley hedge fund velocity capital. andy, great to see you. thanks for coming in. what do you make of the eu's fine this week and the charges against google? >> well, the fine itself is irrelevant. you look at the numbers, 830 billion dollars market cap, 100 billion in cash, 13 billion in profits last year. that's not the problem. it is the concept of they are annoyed about 11 apps they installed including maps and search and assistance trying to say that's anticompetitive. but google, android, it is a platform. it is a platform for others to compete on. lyft versus uber and spotify versus pandora. it is a wonderful competitive environment and they compete against apple. bureaucrats are bureaucrats so they had to do something. paul: they say look, when they go to a handset maker and they say if you want to use android, you have to put these -- our apps, google maps, youtube,

first. >> sure. paul: that's favoritism to google. >> well, yes, but you get the operating system for free rather than spending billions of dollars -- paul: develop your own, yeah. >> and samsung for example puts their own apps on there. users can hit delete and put their own apps on it. it is just like the pc business and the browser wars. in a sense it became obsolete almost at the time that microsoft got their hands slapped. paul: so you think they are looking through the rearview mirror here and technology will somehow make all of this irrelevant? >> yeah, i mean, phones have already peaked, right? i mean we're starting to look at what the next platform might be. but my issue is, if you're google, what do you do? they are going to appeal. they have appealed, that's fine. but you can't let the european commission of competition get away with it. if i was google, i would do the following. there's a billion plus android phones that ship every year. got to figure at least 100 million, probably multiple

hundred millions ship into europe. you can shut them off but then you are hurting yourself. instead what i would do is i would say okay, let's create an activation fee, $50, 50 euros and not payable to google but payable to the eu. you would have to write a check or -- paul: so the individual user of the android phone would have to pay the fee. >> yes, don't even let them do it electronically. make them go to a bank or a post office. this thing would blow over in a week. there would be such an uproar and it would never happen. paul: people would blame the eu and not google. >> exactly. paul: are you sure? >> yes, it is just like the tariffs. if there's a tariff on my imported mercedes-benz, if i had to pay that money to the u.s. government rather than to the dealer i would go what do you mean i have to pay? paul: let me ask you another issue about google, market cap almost 900 billion, astonishing, is there a problem in your mind from antitrust point of view in the way they use algorithms to steer users to certain kinds of content? for example, their content and advertisers that they want to

steer it to. >> sure, that was the other european fine they paid for steering people towards their shopping site. you know, it is better to have transparency, to have the algorithms so transparent that if you wanted to have your ad placed first, maybe you would pay more. it's always going to be an issue with platforms, but the more visibility there is -- and you don't see advertisers complaining. you see bureaucrats complaining. but you don't see advertisers complaining because they can get to users. the nice thing about google you know the effectiveness of your ad. if it doesn't work, you don't run it again. paul: i want to ask you as a market analyst, the big companies, the facebook, google, netflix, and apple have dominated the market. but you wrote an intriguing column this week saying that maybe the seeds of their decline are already planted. explain what you meant. >> well, on wall street, it is easy to buy a stock. i'm going to buy the stock.

it is going to be the next greatest thing but no one knows when to sell. i think you need an exit strategy. the day you buy it, you figure out what is going to go wrong eventually. you know, look at netflix. it blew up this week; right? the subscriber numbers were a million shy, and they took the stock down. when i look at the other ones some are more obvious than others. apple seeds of destruction or what we just talked about, is the phone market has kind of peaked. everyone has one. they don't wear out. similarly facebook, they have a problem in that you know they are at 2 point something billion users, doubled in five years. i don't think it is going to double again. they're not allowed in china. russia has competition for facebook. what happens as that growth rate kind of slows? investors get a little nervous and start running for the hills. paul: and that's what you've got to look for as an investor. when is the turn? >> you look for it the day you invest. and then you keep an eye on it. say what are the signs that i'm looking for? because stocks go up in euphoria; right?

google, amazon, every day the stock goes up. what is going to go wrong? so that you can be ahead of everyone else. paul: read andy's column to tell you when to do that by the way. thanks for being here. we have to take one more break. when we come back, hits and misses of the week. :: schwab, again? index investing for that low? that's three times less than fidelity... .. schwab has lowered the cost of investing again. introducing the lowest cost index funds in the industry with no minimums. i bet they're calling about the schwab news. schwab. a modern approach to wealth management.

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>> time for hits and misses of the week. >> reporter: amiss for former president barack obama who went to south africa and gave a speech announcing identity politics. this was the same barack obama who spent eight years in office making overt appeals to voters based on race and sexual orientation and gender and suddenly he decides this is a bad thing. this has to do with the fact that barack obama isn't running for office anymore so he can oppose it. maybe michelle will.

>> 3 quarters of a hit to the republican senate for setting a record this week, 23 appellate court nominees confirmed, the most since george hw bush. on thursday they botched the nomination of ryan bounds in the ninth circuit for comp located reasons but a reminder with the brett kavanaugh confirmation this is a team sport when you have 50-49 majority you all got to show up. >> i'm giving a miss to turkey for its continued detention of american pastor andrew brunson who has been two years behind bars on trumped up charges. president erdogan is against him and other american hostages but i'm afraid they may have to

exact more leverage to get results. >> if you have your own hit or miss tweet it to us, that is it for this we show, thanks to all of you for watching. see you right here. >> fox news alert, special counsel robert mueller's team reach researching out to an ongoing witness in his in best litigation -- investigation, with close ties to donald trump. welcome to a brand-new hour of america's news headquarters. >> new developments unfold, the president is responding to a new revelation, michael cohen secrecy recorded a conversation with donald trump where they talked about payments to a former playboy model who had an affair with the president. the fbi is in possession of that

recording, donald trump saying, quote, inconceivable the government would break into a lawyer's office early in the morning. almost unheard of. more inconceivable that a lawyer would tape our client, totally unheard-of and perhaps illegal. the good news is your favorite president did nothing wrong. garrett tenney live in washington with more on it. >> reporter: the president slamming these developments but rudy giuliani suggesting this reporting helps the president. sources tell fox news in september 2016 michael cohen recorded a conversation with donald trump in which cohen suggested buying the rights to the story. a former playboy model, karen mcdougall, claimed she had an affair with mister trump in 2006. they claimed to do this to prevent those allegations from

becoming public before the election. rudy giuliani says no payment was made and suggested to the wall street journal that this recording shows he wasn't trying to hide the payment because he was open to making the payment by check telling the paper, quote, it helps us rather than hurts us. you don't do any form of illegal tax or campaign-finance violation by check. separately special counsel robert mueller reaching out known to the manhattan madam as the investigation into russian election meddling and possible ties to the trump campaign. kristin davis was charged for running a high end prostitution ring in new york city. as tmc reported that special counsel's office is interested in davis because her close ties to long-term trump advisor roger stone, long a person of interest in that investigation. last night on cnn he believes mueller is on a fishing expedition for anything to use against him.

while the special counsel's office -- >> she had been an associate of mine for ten years. someone i have great affection for. i am the godfather to her son. she is a single parent, she is now in the cosmetology business. >> mister mueller has had full access to my email and is well aware there is no evidence whatsoever. >> reporter: the special counsel is not commenting on the latest report. davis would be the latest in a long line of folks tied to roger stone. >> donald trump facing bipartisan backlash from lawmakers following his summit in helsinki with russian president vladimir putin but despite the criticism from some inside the beltway a new paul finds 60% of republicans

approved of the president's performance. how will this payout in a midterm election year? let's bring in the political battle, a former advisor to the barack obama presidential campaign, kevin sheridan a former senior advisor to the romney ryan 2012 bid and former communications director, good to see you. how worried are you about a helsinki hangover in the midterm election? is there danger? >> there is honest in the party about it and you heard members of congress speak up and restate their positions on russia, that russia is a menace to our country that did middle in the election. there is no collusion necessarily with trump but that doesn't mean they aren't a problem. republicans spoke up. i don't think it will last through to november for the simple fact there are 10,000 news cycles between now and then. republicans are asking why is

donald trump bringing vladimir putin to the white house? it is not clear what the goal of that meeting would be. maybe he has a second meeting and is much stronger with him in person. we will have to see. >> a lot of republican lawmakers on capitol hill do not like having michael cohen stuck in their face, asked about donald trump's performance in helsinki. is that your sense? >> i think it is. i agree with what kevin said. you have reciprocal views, 32% of americans approve, 68% don't approve of donald trump's handling of the putin summit, 60% of republicans approved, they looking from opposite and equal perspectives, a drop-down from the 80% or 90% support donald trump has had in the party. i suspect there are time delays. it is insidious, it is additive. trump has had two big issues that have hurt him, separation

of families with relation to immigration and the vladimir putin summit. there needs to be something else in the economy. >> to your point the news cycles change so rapidly. it is possible helsinki might be a distant memory by november. >> democrats could play this better if they have a better message about the economy. they don't have a good argument what they are running for other than to be a check on donald trump which will be effective for some people but ultimately might not be enough. they are moving hard to the left. there establishment is devoid of any real argument so basically adopted this identity politics and the socialist emerging where all the energy is in the party. neither of those options are particularly appealing for voters and i don't think they are playing this as well as they could. a somewhat unpopular president

but they are not popular either. >> what about the potential of trump putin summit 2.0 at the white house on donald trump's turf, could that barry the helsinki meeting if donald trump is tough for the second time? >> he has to have a better showing on the second meeting and i think he will. i think he learned his lesson, found where the line is and you have to stand up strong to vladimir putin. no matter what you think the unfair coverage of the press and questions about the election he conflates the two in his mind, they are two different things, russia did middle, russia is a threat to the united states and has been for twee 7 years. the republican party has a lot of goodwill on this issue. republicans are the stronger party against russia going back to the cold war. he will be stronger i think. >> your thoughts on vladimir putin donald trump 2.0 at the white house? >> we will see. we have the mueller

investigation heating up, we will see what happens. trump has damaged himself. i don't agree the republicans have moved hard left, their wedding and reaction not necessarily, the issue with trump is most presidents since truman up to trump played within the 40 yard line. trump is in the end zone. we have an outlier president. we will see how that shows up in the polls. the economy will drive the messaging and local dynamics in terms of the midterms as we will see. a check and balance message by democrats is not enough to take the house. they need to make their own economic arguments, present their own economic leadership agenda. >> we have to leave it there, thank you for your time. >> dozens of groups holding a rally in los angeles demanding the city do more to protect asylum seekers and migrants as a federal judge says the trump administration is making, quote, great progress towards reuniting 2500 children separated from their parents at the southern

border. >> evil criminal to do that to the children. people have a right to ask for asylum. >> jeff paul is live in los angeles with the latest. >> reporter: hundreds marching through the streets of downtown los angeles to bring attention to the fact that immigrant families separated from their kids, also concern around the thursday deadline that ordered those families to be reunited. we look at this video, this group taking to the streets and taking a two lanes of traffic, hoping people see and hear their message. and realized immigration system is broken. they are sending a message to those across the border illegally and are living in fear. >> we are here in an immigrant community, and immigrant city and we need to show people in los angeles and the united states and around the world that we support immigrants, welcome

refugees and we want them here in our city and our country. >> reporter: as far as reunification a judge in san diego address those concerns during the court hearing friday. and said i'm very impressed with the effort being made. it really does appear there has been great progress toward reunification and the process is working, is on track and on time. even if they were separated, reunified with their families on thursday, they believe the immigration system needs an overhaul. >> fox news alert. we are learning what went wrong with a tourist boat capsized and sunk in a missouri lake killing 17 people. last night hundreds gathered at a vigil in branson, missouri to remember those victims.

>> you have wanted to feel like somebody cared about you. that is the biggest purpose for this, making sure people understand we are supporting them. share mac do you know if anyone on board was wearing a life vest? >> we know they weren't. the storm moved fast. ripples on the lake turned into waves that crashed over the bow of the ill-fated tour boat. 29 passengers in two crewmember's were told not to put on life vests. according to one survivor they were told they don't need them. >> this is where they are. don't worry about it. okay. when the cabin took over. i thought that at some point, grab the jacket now.

>> tia coleman is from a family of 11 the last we 9 people. her husband and three children are all gone. the president of the company that owns the duck boat says a microburst descended on them. the winds were 60 miles an hour. the video shows those two amphibious boats getting battered and taking on water. one of them ultimately slipped. you don't see that in the video but 17 people including the driver of the boat were killed. that duck boat is still in 80 feet of water where it rolled after taking 40 feet of water. the ntsb and coast guard taking over the investigation and we expect in a couple hours to get an update from the ntsb. >> this gives you a sense how horrified those people are. >> a cease-fire has been reached between hamas and israel after violence erupted in israel.

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in addition, the israeli soldier killed on friday by a palestinian soldier, the first to die in a low-level conflict between israelis and palestinians for the past four years in addition to that, increasing news of so-called flaming kites. palestinian militants sending kites into israel over the fence and attached incendiary devices. when they hit israeli soil they catch fire inspector brushfires. no one has gotten hurt in these fires but they caused a lot of economic problems. the israelis have responded by tightening the blockade on israel. until now, the israelis prepared to use military action in response to this. this has the un secretary-general concerns, issuing a statement a short while ago in which he said i call on hamas and other palestinian militants to cease the launching of rockets and

incendiary kites along the fence and israel exercised restraint to keep from further inflaming the situation. israel and hamas have fought 3 wars in the last decade, the last one four years ago, the concern that the flareup that we had is frozen in a cease-fire could again blowup into a full-fledged war. mike: thanks very much. eboni: a number of democrats running for office reigniting talk of socialism within the democratic party. one of those young stars is socialist candidate alexandria ocasio-cortez of new york who rocketed to superstardom after knocking out the number one democrat in the house in a recent primary election. >> we have to have medicare for all. it doesn't stop here.

the movement is the right thing to do and we will fight as long as it takes to get there. mike: jillian turner has more. >> reporter: 42 men and women running for office. we have a formal endorsement of democratic socialists of america according to the associated press, they span 20 states and include florida, hawaii, michigan and kansas, the latest development the trump presidency hit the 18 month mark democratic socialism is becoming an increasingly powerful force in democratic politics. new faces laying out the organization's priorities more forcefully than ever before. >> we want to be a nation that allows improved and expanded medicare for all. we are a nation that will not stop until every child is born with the opportunity to go to college or trade school free of

cost and we will not rest until every person in this country is paid a living wage to lead a dignified life. >> reporter: they are clear who their friends and enemies are. >> we say to trump instead of showing us your strength by tearing children from their families, where was your strength in standing up to vladimir putin in russia? >> reporter: the organization and its political ideology operated on the fringes of the liberal movement's farthest left flank but now they have 45,000 dues paying members and making inroads into states and communities traditionally carried by the gop. >> they say the people of kansas don't want those things. they told me i would not be welcome. but you have proven them wrong.

>> reporter: this week ocasio-cortez and bernie sanders hit the campaign trail and today she is in missouri campaigning. eboni: we are going to bring in philip wegman, a writer for the washington examiner. thank you for joining us on a saturday. she beat joe crowley, a big time democrat in new york. in that jurisdiction, seems dianne feinstein is up against a real battle in california, so it looks like it might be effective. the question is does this work in middle america? karl rove had interesting thoughts on it. >> everything she says is going to be tested and candidates will be asked do you agree that israel has occupied palestine?

she has started to say things and candidates will be asked do you agree with that? eboni: is she the new kingmaker of the democratic party? >> she is the queen of queens in new york but what we are watching to see whether her democratic socialism can take root outside of new york and in the midwest. you have alexandria ocasio-cortez and bernie sanders pushing for candidates in the midwest right now but kansas hasn't set a democratic congress in over a decade. this is ambitious, very aggressive and if it works it is going to send a 10,000 bold jolt right up the spines of both establishment parties because this movement will not be going away if they are successful. eboni: is it that much of a formula? alabama not known for sending democratic senators to the nation's capital, but doug jones

is there. let's go with connor lamb in pennsylvania. many people didn't see that and they were a different kind of democrat then we see in alexandria. is a true all politics are local? >> when you look at alabama, those were circumstances with the roy moore situation and pennsylvania, there's an interesting parallel between the argument he made at the argument cortez is making. it shows an intellectual vacuum on the left because joe crowley was willing to repeat the same boilerplate talking points we hear from democrats all the time. instead cortez actually advanced a certain set of issues, not just sticking to an anti-trump shtick. this is alarming for democrats because while her very issue focused agenda works on the east coast, the question is whether

or not it suffocates in the midwest and other states that are much more red and much more focused on the economy. kansas, difficult to organize a proletariat there when the economy is booming and unemployment is at 3.4%, well below the national average. eboni: how do you see claire mccaskill on embracing a running away from cortez? >> she is running away as quickly as possible. already state democrats have to be worried about this. joe manchin or joe donnelly in indiana are guys who their entire argument is they are middle-of-the-road democrats willing to work with the president when he is right and split with him when he is wrong. eboni: but to those red state democrats run the risk of getting primary like joe crowley?

>> they are definitely the chosen sons for this november and this raised an interesting point. we are talking about what is happening in this current moment. alexandria ocasio-cortez represents not just politics for the next two years but for the next decade because the economy will not always be good and at moments like those, her appeal when it comes to democratic socialism is going to hit hard with young people and i don't think establishment republicans or democrats are prepared at all. eboni: when you are the change candidate that seems to work in your favor politically, hillary clinton, one of her downfalls was she seemed like the same, the establishment, in the vein of chuck schumer and nancy pelosi and joe crowley. i can see both sides of this but is it a risk that is worth taking for the democrats? >> reporter: it is a risk they are being forced to take. they saw what happened when the establishment tried to shut down

bernie sanders during the democratic primary in 2016. it did not work well for them and there were a lot of dissatisfied voters. a lot of base voters. whether they like it or not they have to accept alexandria ocasio-cortez into their ranks but they were forced to leap before they looked at her policies and like karl rove said earlier a lot of red state democrats will be hit over the head because of her positions. eboni: great to see you, thank you. mike: an american pastor held in turkey for two years on charges of terrorism and espionage. how the trump administration is intensifying a diplomatic push to secure his freedom but how the united states is pressuring members of the un security council to make kim jong-il and give up his nuclear weapons. >> no one was under any illusion this was going to happen, it will take time to achieve this

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>> the united states sending a message to the united nations but north korea will not receive really from sanctions until kim jong-il and gives up his nuclear program and putting pressure on china and russia district reinforce sanctions. ambassador nikki haley and mike pompeo -- mike pompeo during a joint briefing at the un. >> we can to do one thing until we see north korea respond to their promise to denuclearize. >> the path ahead is not easy, it will take time but our hopes for a safer world for all of us in a brighter future for north korea remains our objective. eboni: a research fellow at the eurasia group foundation, good to see you.

secretary of state mike pompeo trying to keep pressure on the north korean regime to keep the promises they made with a won't get sanctions relief. the impact? >> north korea response to one friend in that region, china. it is its lifeline. we need to keep a good cooperative relationship with china if we expect them to put ultimate pressure on north korea. the trade wars we are embarking on make that difficult but they have been reliable partner with the united states. mike: should us officials be concerned north korea is back to their pattern and making promises they never deliver on? >> don't think many people think kim jong un is a reliable consistent negotiator. no one will take him at his word. one of the things that has

created a sense of urgency for kim jong un to get a nuclear record is the record of regime change in iraq, saddam hussein being pooled out of a hole, he sees other leaders like moammar qaddafi attacked by a mob in a drainage ditch. he doesn't want to become like them. he wants to hold onto power, and a nuclear weapon is the ultimate deterrent for having the united states try to tackle his own regime. america's history of preventive wars has backfired and created the situation we are in. mike: what about what nikki haley is doing in china and russia on the un security council, a problem the us has been dealing with for some time. >> china and russia are forms in the side when it comes to cooperating with issues like this. north korea in their region don't see the same threat the united states sees, but pompeo needs to be careful in his language. when he says north korea made promises to the world that is

right, for all to see. but the rest of the world doesn't perceive this threat the way the united states does. we have to be realistic about that. mike: we talked about donald trump's visit with nato. share your thoughts about the trump visit. >> this will be in the boston globe tomorrow, thinking about whether nato and nato expansion happening over the years, to some extent created this sense is not just vladimir putin and his ilk that look at the united states and think we are being overaggressive. it is 18, 22, 25-year-old kids in russia we are alienating, the people who would be small the democrats in that country.

i don't think nato is as consequential as ultranationalist parties that are springing up in nato countries, our wealthy european allies. that is a threat to the european unity and democracy. more than russia is at this moment. mike: the president's approach by getting nato countries to spend more on defense, isn't that making nato stronger? >> i think it will. this kind of burden sharing has been a policy of the united states owing back to the obama administration, trying to get allies to chip in more money as well, a different diplomatic strategy in doing that. they were not scolding publicly, this is what i, neck the bassoonist style where you have public displays of aggression and affection. it doesn't always end well because these political leaders, heads of state donald trump is meeting with have their own

constituencies and if they are perceived as doing the us's bidding, doing this a little more surreptitiously behind closed doors. might be in the president's interests for sure. >> i have been to afghanistan and see nato troops alongside americans and some americans -- they don't do the same heavy lifting we did. they helped the united states after 9/11. does nato have value going forward? >> absolutely. the rationale for nato existing, keep america in, keep rush out, keep germany down, an obsolete mission but in terms of getting incentives for european countries, and corruption, that is a worthy thing, article 5 of nato, if you treat an attack on

one country like an attack on everybody, the only time that was invoked was after 9/11. it has served the united states interests. there needs to be a critical reevaluation of the role for nato and what his rationale is in the post-cold war era. mike: a pleasure picking your brain. >> thank you for having me on. eboni: the search for a suspect in the murder of a police officer comes to a end in hawaii but officers are not able to make an arrest. supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh complete another step in his confirmation process as democrats deploy another method to stop his nomination. we talk to a former clerk for brett kavanaugh next. >> judge brett kavanaugh deserves the support of every member of the united states senate and should be confirmed to the supreme court of the united states. an energy company helping cars emit less.

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eboni: lauren green has more. >> reporter: brunson was denied freedom again after another hearing, brunson was remanded behind bars in a turkish prison. >> translator: this case is at risk of turning into a legal shame on turkey's hands. >> reporter: the 50-year-old is charged with committing crimes on behalf of the terror group and espionage, facing 35 years in a turkish prison, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle call the case a sham saying the evangelical pastor is a political pond. >> i saw all accounts spelled out, nothing that would keep somebody in jail overnight in the us judicial system. >> reporter: the north carolina native who lived there for two decades was killed after a failed coup attempt. turkey alleges brunson had

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eboni: brett cavanagh returning a questionnaire to the committee. the committee's chairman, the most conference of questionnaire ever sent out. it seems democrats on the panel have even more questions for brett kavanaugh, have yet to meet with any of them as they demand 1 million documents spinning his career. senator dianne feinstein saying this earlier in the week. >> brett kavanaugh has next and the record, we expect 1 million pages of documents from his tenure in the white house and political operatives. eboni: joining me as justin walker, former clerk for retiring justice anthony kennedy and supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh.

just so we're clear about what senator feinstein is talking about, expensive career from brett kavanaugh, for secretary george w. bush's white house and was part of the 2000 presidential election recount process and part of the kenneth starr bill clinton probe among other things. that is some of what she is referring to. 1 million documents, back in 2010, for nomination, 170,000 plus last year, neil gorsuch with 180,000 plus. what is your reaction why million documents? >> we have never seen a number anywhere close to this. there are more documents produced for brett kavanaugh than ever in history, and people

in dc, chuck schumer, and senator grassley and mcconnell, 1 million documents or 2 million documents and that is the kind of thing politicians love to fight about. and what is already public is judge cavanagh's record on the second most important court in the country, opinion after opinion document after document shows his independence, evenhandedness and a brilliant legal mind at work. eboni: they are not looking for his opinions as you say accurately, those are made available. i am going to reframe this for us. let's go with this premise. if it is not a legitimate scope of who the judge really is from a legal standpoint, say it is a political tactic, some people are saying it. the you think that is wise of

the democrats if it is their plan to delay the confirmation post the start of a session which is october 1st, democrats maybe don't want that. is that smart on their part? >> i'm not a political expert but if you compare brett kavanaugh to alayna kagan, john roberts, he is in a different position they are because he has had 12 years on the second lowest court in the country, alayna kagan a brilliant attorney but never a judge before, john roberts a very smart attorney who had barely been a judge. we didn't know as much about john roberts and alana kagan but we know about judge cavanagh, 12 years, second most appointed. eboni: some democrats say we need to slow everything down

with brett kavanaugh because he is a trump nominee and as we have seen with trump ron nominees in the news for federal judgeships, like ryan downs, was rescinded but tell me how you see brett kavanaugh versus another trump appointee. >> it is very different. brett kavanaugh has been confirmed by the senate in 2016 for his current judgeship. there should not be as many questions what kind of person this is and i also think when it comes to a new nominee to the court, whether it is ryan downs or alana kagan if they haven't been a judge before we look at their past and figure out what kind of judge they are going to be but with brett kavanaugh we know what kind of judge he will be, for 12 years already and 200 opinions show he is a fantastic judge, the most qualified

nominee to the supreme court in a generation or two. eboni: it is no easy feat to be a judicial clerk. you have done it at the highest level. the supreme court and brett cavanagh. tell me what you observed, the type of judge we are talking about? >> you have a legal background. you will appreciate seeing brett kavanaugh day in and day out, impeccable character who cares a lot what the law means, what the text means, history and precedent, does it without passion or prejudice. i know brett kavanaugh very well, he has been a mentor to me and every one of his 48 clerks. the more america learns about this great judge and this good man the more they will want to

see him on the supreme court. eboni: thanks for joining us. that does it for us but the news continues at the top of the hour after this short break and -- >> i will see you back here at 7:00 eastern. ♪ what about him? let's do it. ♪ come on.

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arthel: hello everyone. one of president trump's long time confidants falling into special counsel robert mueller's crosshairs as mueller continues to investigate possible collusion between russia and the trump campaign. hello everyone. welcome to a brand new hour inside america's news headquarters. i'm arthel neville. blake: i'm blake burman in for eric shawn this afternoon. kristen davis the so called manhattan madame is expected to be subpoenaed by the mueller investigation. she has close ties to the former trump aide roger stone. this is how stone reacted last night. >> she has been an associate of mine for