>> that was on monday for you. >> yes, it was. bouncing around. >> how is that wedding in texas? >> it was great. my knees, first of five godchildren, congratulations. to be my congratulations to them. that's it for us come out now. >> harris: fox news alert, president trump is doubling down yet again on his criticism of the special counsel investigation. he says it's now been discredited after a newly released fbi document revealed information the agency used to justify surveillance of a former truck campaign aide during the 2016 presidential campaign. and on and on we go. this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, melissa francis. most of the evening at it on the fox business network, elizabeth macdonald, don't miss it. democratic strategist and fox news contributor jessica tarlov. in joining us in the center seat, fox news media analyst, host of media buzz and author of media madness, donald trump, the

press and the war over the truth, howard kurtz is "outnumbered." nice to see you, your silent. >> melissa: he has good manners. >> howard: supposed to be "outnumbered." >> harris: thanks for being here. let's get to the news, it is the document that so many have been waiting for. after house republicans tried for months to secure its release, the fbi has released the application it submitted to a secret court, the fisa court, to get permission to start surveilling the truck campaign aides carter page. the heavily redacted document we now know reveals the infamous trump dossier compiled by a former british spy christopher steele. which was an essential part of the fbi effort. president trump tweeted this. so now we found out that it was indeed the unverified and fake dirty dossier that was paid for by cricket hillary clinton and the dnc that was knowingly and falsely submitted to fisa and which was responsible for starting the totally conflicted and discredited speed witch hun

witch hunt. house judiciary chairman bob goodlatte also slammed the fbi's use of that dossier to obtain a warrant. watch. >> we certainly learned that there is a serious problem with the fbi resenting to the fisa court an application for a search warrant against the united states citizen and then followed by three renewals when they were basing it on a very flawed document, the so-called dossier that has never been verified. even after all of this came out, they attempted to verify it and failed. >> harris: a flip side, the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee adam schiff firing back saying the documents bolster arguments at the fbi has legitimate concerns about page's activities and ties to russia. >> i know they set out in detail a lot of which unfortunately is reacted just by the fbi was so

concerned that they would be acting as an agent of a foreign power. let's remember, that application of those renewals have been vindicated a substantial part by carter page's own words in a letter you asked him about in which carter page acknowledged the being an informal advisor to the kremlin. we went over the first time, we are seeing the letter were they sent to the white house last month calling a president trump to declassify and make public key parts of the carter page fisa application is saying the community's investigative findings find doj and fbi's use of an unverified dossier memoranda that was not subjected to proper u.s. government verification and was not handled according to fbi procedures because doj and fbi continue to obstruct the committee's investigation. it is time to put the facts in the public domain. if howard kurtz, is it time? >> howard: there is a huge partisan fight over this document i did a little down in the weeds for a lot of average

people and the reason if we looked at this document now, there's so many reductions it looks like a chunk of swiss cheese but here's what we've learned. it was approved by former republican appointed judges, the fbi believed that carter page was targeted for recruitment by the russians, he said yesterday he was an informal advisor. i'm not sure i see the distinction. and we learn the fbi did tell the special court that the person who name to the dnc had paid for this dossier was trying to injure trump's campaign. so was it like it went unnotice unnoticed. >> harris: so to answer my question in transparency, you called it down in the weeds but what does the public even know at this point? if it's of heavily redacted, what are we learning? >> howard: we are learning that both sides will take the same pieces of favor and argue about it but there are national security concerns and that's why so much of this has been cut out which makes it hard to reach a definitive conclusion. >> harris: for the democrats point of view on this, you may have heard trey gowdy say that if there were evidence of any

kind of certain kinds, adam schiff would've leaked it by now but are we so down as howard is suggesting, so down in the political b.s. that there's not much substance there for the american public to grab onto? >> jessica: i think there are topline findings which is what howard laid out there which are credibly important for the american public to see. i think the reactions, if you can pick the that the republicans for the sole basis for the fisa work, it's clear from the reduction. chairman goodlatte even said in his interview. either way when there are reactions after that complicates things. so be good to see what else there were. it only talk about his reporting for yahoo which is now been exposed that it was circular reporting but now to quote carter page in 2016 when he declined to verify his story that he was in moscow at a certain time, those are things

that we should have more information about the national security reasons are paramount. >> harris: can we just talk about carter page for just a moment. a lot of pushback from the white house and other saying that his role if any was very small. he calls himself an informal. >> melissa: that always means i'm hanging around the fringes and no one has asked me to be here and no one is paying me and i'm just an informal advisor here. i have no real role. carter page, it was a best said that he is more inspector gadget and then jason bourne. if you listen to him talk when you watch these interviews that he is doing, he doesn't have a lot of credibility. he seems like he's kind of all over the place. he seems to like being on tv. i can understand why he has a meeting with anyone, it would raise suspicion have the same time he's been on the radar for really long time and the fact that he's hanging around the hoop at the trump campaign as

well, i don't know. i would dispute some of jessica's facts and the idea that the warrant mentions in every single place this dossier which we know is paid for by the opponent and didn't prove out to be true and those yahoo stories were circulated by the same people that created the dossier, so it seems like if they didn't need the dossier, it wouldn't be listed everywhere. >> harris: it was unverified so that's the issue. >> elizabeth: have to get into these hypertechnical terms that have blocked the debate down. senator marco rubio to melissa's point has said carter page was on the radar screen for a long time before the trump campaign. he was sort of hanging around as a consultant with the shingle hanging out. but the senator also said this doesn't mean that they were spying on the campaign, there was a unmasking term campaign officials and intel sources by all sorts of obama avera

officials. i think your question is a good one. and we need to learn more, to the american people see more, should they be more transparent, the answer is yes. >> harris: i'll come right back to you. so the president tweeted today, president obama knew about russia before the election, why didn't he do something about it? i don't know if we can stick this, there it is up on the screen. why didn't he tell our campaign? because it is all the big hoax, that's why and he thought crooked hilary was going to win. if >> elizabeth: the term hoax is problematic in this in mind f what intelligence is already saying about russian meddling in the campaign. should we wait for mueller's report and let him finish it? yes. is it unreasonable to say it's a witch hunt? likely yes. was there evidence of collusion? we don't see that right now. should we let this be a probe play out? yes. i don't know how love is going to take, that's a problem i think. >> harris: from you is a talent wow attorney for the southern district of new york enter mccarthy from fox earlier, watch this. >> the big problems that i think

people are going to have in this are there a lot of people in national security but have to look you in the eye and say trust us. fisa is exactly that because you never get disclosure of it. and what people are going to wonder is if they did that in this case, how rampant is the problem? how much do they push the envelope because they know no one's ever going to check their work. >> harris: so irrespective of party, that's an excellent question because it's always been the secret court. and so we begin to feel even with redaction's a bit process back, should we then naturally be curious, has this happened before? have there been things that have been used to give warrants before this court has looked at that we might want to dig deeper into. >> howard: it's hard to judge because it has been so surrounded by secrecy and at the same time, we want to know if this was municipally unanimous. i was struck by congressman

saying top trump officials should resign. mike pompeo should resign. >> harris: why should they resign? >> howard: the idea is that if you don't like donald trump's national security policies, his handling of the mueller investigation or his handling of vladimir putin, you should resign as a matter of conscious. the idea is people that work for him are trying to push him in the government and a good direction. i think it's a cheap shot. >> harris: if you look at the polling, their supportive of the president. the polling numbers. >> elizabeth: even before the helsinki summit. >> harris: his approval numbers are bumping up. >> melissa: just to come back to the fisa warrant and other reactions that are on there, i think people keep saying why doesn't the president just release it in full? we have seen in the past that when we take these reductions off that lately, they've been embarrassing to the top echelon

of the fbi. actually think the president is trolling all the democrats and that the longer this fisa thing goes on and the more suspicious most people especially on his side get of this process and in the end when you peel it back and you see those embarrassing things. >> harris: real quickly, let's get to sarah sanders press secretary on this very issue. because the president would like this to operate independent of him but he certainly has asked for the department of justice to be transparent in this process and if there are questions which clearly they remain to be some, we hope they'll step up and help answer those questions. >> elizabeth: your point is well taken that this fisa court stepping back and looking at it as an extraconstitutional. do we want this as the president said is a place to go if you want to find out what's going on in your opponents clinical campaign? that's how the american people in many respects see it.

secret judges, i don't know. >> jessica: they do a lot more. >> elizabeth: it can be used for that. >> jessica: there are two issues here and if kennedy were here, should be super into the other side of this because we talk about be at all the time but in terms of the invasion of privacy of americans and what our government can do in terms of spying on them without cause, it appears now since the carter page fisa warrant was renewed three or four times that there was good cause and he himself has bragged about being this informal. >> melissa: is a same documents that are used again and again. >> harris: if you didn't find problem with it the first time. space if that doesn't mean that carter page has contacts with the russian, that doesn't mean that he stopped talking to those people are bragging about the fact that he was an informal advisor to the kremlin versus a formal advisor. >> harris: just a quick question to you because you were the first to bring up the four g.o.p. appointed court judges and i assume you brought that up because we are talking about separating the political from everything else so how does that

play? >> howard: if it had been mostly democratic appointees, it would be a talking point for president trump and his allies to say this is the deep state and that sort of thing in the fact that these are judges that happen to be appointed by previous rubble can presidents suggest to me that they are not just. >> melissa: i don't know if it matters one way or another. >> howard: hopefully they take this stuff so sears and that they don't let partisan politics enter intimate in deciding the very awesome power of using government surveillance and some of my carter page, i do think is a bad poster boy because he did have contacts with the russians and of course that brewer was suspicious. >> melissa: it's more telling that they rubber-stamp everything that comes their way. the percentage of times they've proved these warrants 99% and that's what's telling. >> jessica: is definitely important, 13 democrats and that the judge can't be unbiased because hillary's heritage.

>> harris: what we can look at is where there instances like this? where political bias from one side or the other allowed foreign fie's application to be rubber-stamped as you said most of the time. when one side weaponize is the process against another side, it doesn't matter which side is doing that. >> jessica: we absolutely do but i don't see how this was the weaponization of the fisa court process here if it were for judges and judge roberts stacking it with his prerogative. >> harris: the escalating war of words as president trump puts iran on notice. read in the and face store consequences. why this may signify a big shift in u.s. policy. we will see. plus, progressive heroes bernie sanders and alexandra ocasio-cortez progressive heroes or socialist? they now say there agenda is now the democratic mainstream and that draws a warning shot from some moderate democrats. stay close.

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iran is the mother of all wars. and this. speak what you cannot mobilize the iranian nations against iran security. you are making a mistake. you have clearly shown your opposition against the iranian nation. do not play with the lion's tail or else you will regret it. it will bring you eternal regre regret. >> melissa: speaking of lion's tail, tweeting in all caps never, ever threaten the united states again or you'll suffer consequences the likes of which few throughout history have ever suffered before. we are no longer a country that will stand for your demented words of violence and death, be cautious. the president's late night tweet followed a blistering speech sunday night by secretary of state mike pompeo at the presidential library where he compared iran's regime to the mafia and announced that the trump administration has launched a maximum pressure campaign targeting the iranian

government. in speaking on "fox & friends," but has press secretary sarah sanders sing the president is not afraid to match tough talk with action. >> he is certainly not going to tolerate the leader of iran making threats against americans, making threats against this country, making threats against israel, this is a president who was going to stand up and make sure that he is doing what is necessary, he is showing peace through strength, but it's needed and steps are required. this president is not afraid to take them. >> melissa: so once again, i think it's easy, he immediately flips the script. whatever it was that president obama did before him, he is going to do the opposite. president obama coddled iran, gave them the deal and that sort of thing and was very eloquent and he had his rhetoric. so the president immediately blasting right back at iran. >> howard: breaking out the all caps and very rough language and reminiscent of the fire in fear he had little rocket man

treatment with north korea before they decided to sit down. but here's the thing, everything is reduced to knee-jerk politics in today's world so cnn says is the president doing this so he can overshadow the putin press conference for the cohen tapes? this is a very carefully considered, because we see from mike pompeo giving the speech talking about hypocritical holy men in iran. they ratchet up the pressure and twitter is one weapon that the president uses. >> elizabeth: that's a good point because with the iranian leader just said as he is making like the american people are against the nation of iran. it's against certain members of the iranian regime that publicly flog teenagers, that execute people for all sorts of crimes that many nations would not do. human rights abuses, the problem here about oil because iran has now threatened to shut down a big chunk of the oil supply.

the watch of the scum of the middle east to get around that problem, three countries. they have built pipelines to get around iran. where a lot of oil is transported. >> harris: real quickly, the next step in all of this when you look at it, experts are saying it might be more sanctions so i get the money move because they know it's coming. there's no way to separate them out from syria. >> elizabeth: that's an important point. iran's economy is in a state of collapse. since the beginning of the year, this is an opportunity years ago where there have been protest because of hyperinflation which always leads to flaps of a regime. >> harris: geopolitically we want to separate them out of syria and you can't. they've made a huge investment militarily and monetarily and if they're not going to separate out so to force their hand, you slap on potentially more sanctions and they are near crippled right now with that.

>> elizabeth: they are now cutting back on iran oil. >> melissa: if you look beyond the rhetoric to the actions and i hear general jack keane talk about this this morning. president trump comes into office, iran immediately fires missiles, president trump responds with huge sanctions, goes to saudi arabia, says we are going to stand shoulder to shoulder, lets form a middle eastern nato. he kills the iran deal and that he sets up new sanctions that are supposed to go into effect in the next 80 and 190 days. that's tough. >> jessica: it is absolutely tough and i think the net result out of all of this is that we've got to see what the next step in the iran deal yields. all these countries that were part of it had to get together and figure out what the deal that is good for this administration that can continue to put force on them so they don't end up with a nuclear weapon. that's where we are at this point. i agree with howard, i don't know if that was intentional or not but based on what mike pompeo was saying yesterday, we

knew we would hear from the president on the iranian front again and this is similar rhetoric that we have heard out of north korea. >> melissa: end of the next step is seeing what we can do with that, sounds like that's been ripped up and tossed into the window. >> jessica: we need a new plan, is not going to be to let them just exist in a vacuum. >> harris: we are going to sanction the heck out of them. >> jessica: we do as western democracies need to be on the same page about what's going on because every other country that supported us in the iranian it was so supportive of it. it is not like the u.k. decided that they change their mind. we do need a new plan. >> melissa: that's what the days are about as those are the new sanctions that are going to go into effect against those who are doing business with iran. >> harris: bottom line, they should stop threatening us and i think real quickly this is the president who may know will carry out what he says at least to some degree.

>> howard: one of the reasons they still claim to be living up to those ideals. if people don't like this, this is what president tran campaigned on, tough talk, iran getting out of the deal and so he has a mandate on this, is not like he suddenly devises policy once he got to office. >> melissa: police have not ruled out terrorism after a gunman fired a barrage of bullets on a busy toronto street killing at least two people. a live report on the ground in toronto is next. plus, new fallout in washington over president trump's summit with vladimir putin. when members of his own party are saying and what it could mean for the president offer of a second summit at the white house. >> the president either needs to rely on the people that he has chosen to advise him or those advisors need to reevaluate what they're not doing for this administration.

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>> harris: fox news alert, two people are dead following a shooting on the streets of toronto last night, now we are learning one of those victims was just ten years old, little girl. video capturing the sounds of gunshots, the suspect walked past restaurants in the city's greektown district and fired into them. police say the mass shooting also left 12 people injured, authorities are not ruling out terrorism. watch as one witness describes the chaotic scene. >> i thought it was fireworks at first because it was rapid fire and then a pause at the end and some more fire, we didn't know what it was, we saw people starting to run in our direction and i still didn't know what it was the more people running 70 started running and ran down a side street. >> harris: is go to toronto now come alive near the scene.

>> this is very much an active crime scene here. this is the greektown here in toronto, 15 to 20 minutes outside of the city center and this is what we know. just at about 10:00 p.m. last night, a gunman dressed in all black, 29 years old wearing a black hat holding a black satchel had a handgun began firing away shooting his bullets inside had storefronts, inside restaurants, how is that on the patios and also at a nearby park just to give people an idea, this greektown is filled with tons of authentic greek restaurants and bars, a very lively area, especially last night and this is what we are now hearing from police. the gunman is dead. we did not yet know how does gunman died. whether or not he killed himself whether or not police killed him in a shoot-out. we also now know more about the victims. two people are dead including an 18-year-old woman and a

10-year-old little girl. there are 13 other victims, they range in age from ten to 59, they are all being treated at local hospitals, their injuries and their wounds are anywhere from serious to even critical in some cases. a local hospital that was treating five victim says three needed immediate life-saving surgeries. again, we are also talking about the toronto mayor, he says this is it related to gang violence, there still is no motive as to why they think this gunman did this. we also do not have a name but he says this isn't gun violence and it could still be, anything is on the table including terrorism. this is the second attack in the city in three months. this is just three months after the april 23rd of an attack that killed ten people. listen to what the mayor said earlier this morning. >> this is a tragedy, another tragedy in our city this year. i promise all of the people of toronto the most importantly

those directly affected by this tragedy that we will all be relentless in getting answers about why this senseless attack happened. >> the witness accounts that are being told in local media here at the toronto star on the toronto sun are really just horrific. we are told that witnesses say they saw two women laying on the ground and bystanders were having to put chest compressions to try to save their life. another person who was at a nearby restaurant got a bullet wound in their hand. they just walked out to sea with the loud pops were. they thought it was fireworks then there was a moment where there was a dad and other people who were inside a popular park here, they saw the gunman shooting at people at the intersection, one woman was running, she tripped and this guy saw this gunman horrifically shoot this woman point-blank range when she was on the ground. an absolutely horrific attack last night, motive still unclear. name of the gunman still unclea unclear. there is still too dead at this hour, an 18-year-old and a

10-year-old girl. >> harris: live for us from toronto, thank you. >> melissa: new fallout over president trump's summit with russian president vladimir putin in helsinki one week ago today as lawmakers continue to weigh in, the president has since invited putin to washington this fall, not house oversight chairman trey gowdy singh trump administrators should consider quitting if the president won't listen to their advice on russia. watch. >> the president has access to every bit of evidence that even those of us on house intel. he has access to mike pompeo and chris wray and dan coats and nikki haley. evidence is overwhelming. and it be proven beyond any evidentiary burden that russia is not our friend and i try to attack us in 2016. to the president either needs to rely on the people that he has chosen to advise him or those

advisors need to reevaluate whether or not they can serve in this administration but the disconnect cannot continue. >> melissa: meantime, a new "washington post" "abc news" poll says 50% disapprove of president trump's performance during the putin seven and 33% approve. this is a mess. how does it just continue on and on, put a button on it and move on. >> howard: the helsinki press conference did hurt trump, but not with republicans. you drill down and see he still has that rock-solid support so every media saying this is the controversy that's going to sink him often turns out not to be the case. when trey gowdy singh people should resign, part of that is fueled by an interview last week with dan coats the director of national intelligence we didn't even know he was told on the air the president and invited putin to washington this fall saying he's not even keeping them in the loop. they're all staff. there was one person whose name at the top of the ballot. if they truly feel like they can't get anything done, they have the option to believe him but none of them seem to be

doing that. >> harris: why is it the answer to get people to quit their job in the middle of something? it's been hard enough of this administration to fill the positions. they needed some democrats and confirmation situations to be able to get that done. you've got high-level people in those positions. the president isn't likely going to loop in everybody when he's ready to move. that is his style, he told us that was going to be his style. they may not be within everybody's comfort zone but the answer is to quit? i don't understand that. bigger you tell people some extra people in washington. it's a political maneuver, they can't scratch the presidential tough lawns of the people around him to just quit and not put up with this because he's not listening. see when you think that will change that behavior? >> howard: absolutely not. it has been a lot of turnover in this white house and if anything compared to last years doubling down on doing what he thinks is best even if the staff disagree disagrees. >> jessica: i think there's a difference between looping in

and taking advice and trey gowdy was talking about actually taken the advice. you gone out of your way to document administration with the best people that are available to you so you have people that know what they're talking about in john bolton and mike pompeo. i have a very different worldview than them but i wouldn't to speak the fact that they know what they're talking about and the frustration for those republicans who are not cool with the approach to russia and certainly were upset by the helsinki press conference and much more that's gone on is that he doesn't even take the advice on board and makes a decision on his own. like i want vladimir putin to come before the midterm. trey gowdy's name is in on the ballot. it's very different, i don't know what he would be saying if he was running for reelection. a lot of people are speaking out and getting variable and other home to write a book. >> elizabeth: made an important point that he is saying that the russians are reporting back to their people agreements that may counter u.s.

policy. so i hear your point. if you don't want the good guys in the administration just to quit to make a statement. we need them there. speak >> jessica: they should be used for their skills. >> melissa: divided over the direction of their party with mainstream members revolting against the foreign left. how that can result the midterms up next.

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revolution in kansas is pretty amazing. >> harris: that was former candidate for the democratic presidential nomination independent senator bernie sanders and his former protege new york congressional candidate alexandria ocasio-cortez as they hit the trail in kansas. we were campaigning for like-minded house candidate there, meanwhile in ohio a group of moderate democrats organized the first of its kind convention to talk about pushing back against the energy and momentum of the socialist tide inside their party. former delaware governor sounded the alarm for democrats reportedly saying the only narrative that has been articulated in the democrat party over the past two years is one from the left. frankly, it would have been better to start the conversation earlier. it's been going on for a while. hillary clinton saw that just reach up and grab her. so this isn't exactly new. but where is the democrat party going before november? this is a hot mess.

i figure the democrats have a legitimate problem and that is all the energy in the progressive left is pushing the party to the left, but there is a media dimension to this. and they have made this 28-year-old woman who won that one low turnout primary into the face of the party. she get so much publicity, goes out with bernie, front page stories. this was a republican that came out of nowhere and started making mistakes that she was making, the press would be all over her. >> harris: you mean not knowing middle east politics? >> howard: is real occupying palestine, i don't know much about foreign policy to occupy the airports until we shut eyes down. she has gone up in her own direction to the extent that anybody identifies that with people trying to win races and swing states are red states, that is a bad look. >> melissa: i disagree. this feels very trump to me. it's become the cult of personality and politics, he made a ton of mistakes obviously

and overcame them because people who supported him felt like they knew where he was coming from and like the personality, collect the energy that he was totally different. they're better off leaning into somebody who has some spark to them. it could be bernie sanders. >> elizabeth: her job as guarantee jobs or guaranteed income have collapsed economies. finland pulled the plug on a guaranteed income. it is stunning that the democrats have let socialism go full career in their party. they were hard left. they both voted for the 86 tax cuts. it's really stunning that this is going on. >> jessica: i don't think this is gone as far as the media is typing this at penn yes, progressive candidates have done well or democratic socialist candidates. if you look at the portion of them, i think it's only six and

at the end of the day, people are running local elections which is why they're doing so well. we saw that in those states. >> elizabeth: there are 42 socialist candidates. and can run. >> jessica: there is a republican who is running who was a so i don't think we need to talk about who's showing up on the ballot. the point is that meeting in ohio took place because there is a fissure within the party not necessarily because of numbers but because of influence and bernie sanders has a massive influence because of the social network. >> harris: when bernie sanders has a mantle, you have them working against him. and it cost her her position but you have opposition already in your party to his socialist bent. it was a problem then, he remains a problem now. what will you do about it? >> jessica: i think people will continue to run local elections. they are running around all over

the country and is detrimental. and she's also putting her falls on election saying she when them. she didn't do well with african-americans. be when i heard you say earlier joe crowley because he could step back into this race in new york. >> jessica: her race at 26,000 people, she did badly with african-american voters which is exactly what happened to bernie sanders. get everyone back by 4 million votes, she overwhelmingly won black voters and bernie sanders in the progressive left did not do well with them and widely understood to be the most informed voters in the democrat party as well. and she said she when them all and she didn't. >> harris: sounds like a fight to me. president trump may be at war with the mainstream media but his poll numbers keep going up. here to talk about this, i can't wait. and especially among his base, where it is near historic level levels. stay with us.

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>> melissa: president from getting into the media again. when you hear the fake news talking negatively about my meeting with president putin and

all that i gave up, remember i gave up nothing, we merely talked about future benefits for both countries, we also got along very well except for the corrupt media. this is a new "wall street journal" and bz news poll shows the president's job approval driving to 44%. among republicans is 88%, second highest rating for president just behind george w. bush's following the 9/11 attack. a new piece out with analysis of president tom's popularity and his relationship with the media, take it away. >> howard: in 2017, it was a relationship and now it's open sustained and discuss corrupt media and the press mainstream commentators talking about he's a racist, he's a traitor, he's an occasion to treason. earlier in the year, it was the

reference to countries. this is blowing up the alliance, then the press conference, the family separation policy with media pressure actually did persuade the president to change his mind and now the michael michael cohen takes. if it moves so quickly that each time the press is committed come out as of the time that everybody out there is going to see what we see which of the can't do his job as the republicans are particular not only support this guy but they support him more when they perceive him to be unfairly attacked by the press. >> harris: some of the mainstream media waiting to have their opera aha moment. and maybe that moment it could be we've gathered these facts, look at them as the public, going to give you this information, you see what you see. >> howard: some of the criticism is a legitimate is the over a top attacks treason. >> harris: is not necessary. >> howard: it takes that part of the country that already does not trust the media and happens

to be open to this president and it just turns them off. >> harris: are you more worried than ever that we have gotten into a position where there are some of the media that are more powerful than the message? >> howard: i wouldn't go that far because president jumped won despite a pretty unified opposition of the media, i do worry both sides. i really fear that the credibility of the president which was under attack for two decades has been tarnished and the president's been hurt by any effort to expand his base because he is under constant assault as being unfit. to be interview would have an 70% approval rating that wasn't wasn't for his tweets. >> elizabeth: here the other issue going into the midterm, we could see 4%, some say 5% gdp growth, what will get the voter up off the couch in the midterms? will it be these stories what will they say this economic growth policy is for helping us. what's the issue? >> jessica: i think it's important to pay attention to a

rising personal popularity for donald trump and what's going on with a generic ballot. so there was a wild were democrats. 13 for 15% when you look at political reports and then it goes down after the tax cuts came out, only to a three-point edge and right in the margin of error there so that's a toss-up, and price received but currently, it's ten plus again. i think most analysts on both sides agree and if you look through history, cyclically speaking, democrats should take the house back. i think we could have a situation during the midterms for the president remains at around 40 to 45% wherever it is and that to take back the house and then watching him govern over to divided government where he's already had so many issues. >> elizabeth: here's why they may not take back the house, if you continuum committee anemic and people in the heartland will say wait a second, these policies have failed. the economic growth policies this president, the economic

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>> melissa: thank you to howard kurtz, thank you for coming to visit us and we have a lot of need for you to tell us what's going on in the rest of the media. it's unending. anyway, thanks to all of you. we are back here at noon eastern

tomorrow, so for now, let's go over to harris. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert, fiery words for iran from president trump as we go with "outnumbered" overtime, i'm harris faulkner. president trump sent in all caps warning to the iranian president after the leader told iranian diplomats that americans must understand that war with iran is the mother of all wars. the president tweeted never, ever threaten the united states again. he will suffer consequences the likes of which if you throughout history have ever suffered before. we are no longer a country that will stand for your demented words of violence and death, be cautious. notice the all caps on your screen. the president's late tweet followed blistering speech yesterday by secretary of state mike pompeo where he compared iran's regime to the mafia and accuse them of double-dealing. >> the level of corruption