>> that is "the story" for tonight. tucker carlson is coming up nex next. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." last week we broke the story that john brennan as well as other obama officials somehow retain their security clearances long after leaving their government jobs. this will allow them access to highly classified information including leaks from former colleagues who are still working in the intel agencies. today the white house announced it is seeking to revoke those

clearances and we will have that in just a moment. but finally we have a copy of the pfizer warrant application that allowed the obama administration to spy on the truck campaign in 2016. the document is heavily redacted but certain facts are clear. the obama administration argued with the straight face that carter page was a secret agent working for the russians. this is absurd and yet it was widely believed in washington. watch this. >> there is a very clear belief that carter page was conspiring with russia in ways that were nefarious. >> there was overwhelming evidence to have probable cause to do surveillance. as you see, it makes a compelling case that there is probable cause to believe that he was acting as a foreign power. >> a compelling case, really. if it so compelling why are we not hearing that in court at carter page's treason trial? the fisa application doesn't

even begin to prove that carter page began to betray his country in any way that the application does other things. we now know that the dossier was central to the obama administration's request to the spy on the campaign. he perhaps assumed the actual request would never be released. call comey claims that dossier was a not a significant part of the request which turned out to be a live. it appears the fbi did essentially nothing to verify the claims of the dossier, despite the fact that he knew that it was a partisan document paid for by political operatives. the hillary clinton campaign and at the dnc. it was too good to check apparently. instead of sending its own agents to run down the facts which it could have done, the fbi instead sent a yahoo news article to prove the dossier was

reliable. the only problem with that was the yahoo piece was itself based on leaked information from steel. it have to be utterly incompetent to do something like that or, totally dishonest. meanwhile the man identified, and he is carter page. this application repeatedly describes you as an agent of the russian government. and are you aware of any criminal charges pending against you, do you expect to be charged for working for the russian government? >> not only am i not aware of it, also the fact that there is no question i have ever been asked, and none of those don't

make any sense whatsoever. >> there are specifics. they accuse you of two russian officials, both named igor. did you meet with either one of those men? >> i never met with them in my life. ever. >> tucker: do you believe that that allegation comes from the steel dossier? >> absolutely. in july of 2016, two months before the yahoo! news article came out, i started getting these calls from various news reporters. from "the new york times," "washington post," all asking me about the same two names that i had never even heard of -- if i had heard of session but i've never heard of the other.

and it was obvious, some people told me from the media that they heard about it from the clinton campaign, et cetera. so finally they found someone to put it out and, 45 days before the election. and spring months of the clinton campaign learned about it from christopher steele whom they were paying together this dossier. and it's my understanding also from the testimony in recent months that steele never visited russia or bother to go to russia as he assembled the dossier. is that correct? >> that's my understanding. there are a number of lawsuits going on, so hopefully these civil cases can get to the bottom of this. >> tucker: but at the same time, now we have learned that in october of 2016, christopher

steele on the payroll of the clinton campaign briefs officials at the state department, and that breathing apparently was used as one of the pretexts for spying on you. am i connecting those dots correctly? >> that's my understanding. based on these 400 plus pages of documents, there is a lot in there about media. sort of quoting a lot of media sources. i've talked with a couple of former assistant u.s. attorney's et cetera and no one has ever heard of anything like this in terms of this type of a court filing. it's absolutely preposterous in terms of their sources. >> tucker: one of the reasons i find this story so fascinating is because you are an actual person, an american, naval academy graduate and you are willing to talk in public. it's amazing to me that you have been the target of the surveillance. you are not being charged, but

what has it done to your life? how do you feel knowing that, and it's absolutely outrageous. and finally the fbi answered my for your request. this weekend we started having a little bit of transparency and obviously there is a hundred plus pages of blacked out information and, i think, you know, it's just starting the process of getting to the real truth of these crimes that were committed against american democracy with the abuse of process in the fisa court. >> tucker: but really, committed against you. your government on the basis of no actual evidence has accuse you of treason and spied on you as a result. how does that, as someone who served your country in the

military as a naval officer, how does that make you feel? >> the big concern is there's obviously big problems in the u.s. department of justice. there are false court pleadings, and in terms of my civilly concern. the complete failure of the u.s. intelligence committee and if this is what they are using -- >> it seems like they succeeded actually. they had a very specific goal in mind and they achieved it. they have hamstrung the working of government. carter page, and alan dershowitz is of course a professor emeritus at harvard law school.

from what you have seen, i think congress or to ask the people who drafted the pfizer response why they deliberately left out the fact that the clinton campaign and the democratic national committee paid for the steele dossier. and why if they did, why did they leave out the fact that the dossier had this salacious obligation about and beds, the kind of thing that would make any judge looked suspiciously on the source of the material. instead they said this is a guy that had given information and now it looks like they had been giving him a very partisan and unreliable information. >> i am struck by the

information carter page has seen in the press. and the reservoir of sympathy for him seems very shallow, no one seems to care. why is that? >> in my partisan world to come up with a presumption of innocence applies only to your site and on the other side. and it's an indictment proven as guilt. for example an indictment of the 12 russians who will never be brought to trial has been taken as containing the truth. that may very well be that they are guilty and we know there was intrusion or an attempt to intrude on the election but we have to remember the presumption of innocence. it doesn't only apply to your side of the political spectrum. >> tucker: that is exactly right. you really are the last liberal in america and i'm glad you are here. the guy representing stormy

daniels that he knows about the content between donald trump and michael cohen. if he knows what's inside it and he's able to obtain sealed information and that's bad. this is how you described it. >> i do know there are tapes of president trump. >> are you privy to what was seized from the office? that is a very important question. >> i'm not going to answer your question, and if we are right then you have access to information that is supposed to be sealed and supposed to be secret. how do you have that information? >> well do you think he has the information? >> he also accused me, to deflect from a very hard question, he accused me of making false predictions whereas all of his predictions are correct. his major prediction in may is

that president trump would resign and we are waiting to hear and see that happen. i predicted accurately who president trump would nominate to the supreme court. all of my predictions have come true and almost none of of a knotty's predictions have come true. and it's they have those concerns about his conduct so i think basically as conduct speaks for itself. and my prediction is, i wrote a book. in my book the predictions are all in there, anybody can read them and anyone can see that i have been straight on and accurate. the reason i'm accurate is because i don't have a partisan dog in this fight. i just call them as i see them and sometimes my predictions help one side and not the other. but i'm not going to make self-fulfilling prophecies the

way of a knotty and others on the extreme side of this are making self-fulfilling prophecies. let's see if president trump resigns and if not, confront him with that prediction. he said i guarantee you, i guarantee you that president trump will resign after hearing what rudy giuliani said. it's total nonsense. >> tucker: we have invited him many times and so far this is the only show he won't do. >> will have him on with me. >> tucker: any time, i would like that. in the wake of our reporting last week the white house announced it is pursuing a revocation of security clearances for john brennan and other former intelligence officials. >> not only is the president looking to take away brennan's security clearance, and he's also looking into the clearances of clapper, aidan, rice, comey

and mccabe. he is exploring and monetizing those security clearances security clearances. >> tucker: just minutes later jim klapper who is a liar claimed that this was all deeply unfair. >> this is kind of a petty way of retribution, i suppose, for speaking out against the president which i think is born out of concerns about president trump. >> this is a representative of the great state of idaho. congressman, why do they feel entitled to have them? >> there are two issues that we have to address first. why do they have the security clearance at this time? the reason they have it is in the past we have always extended it to people who were in these

kinds of positions because they were of benefit to the government. not because they were of benefit to themselves but because the government could use their assistance during that transition or anything like tha that. clearly they are not benefiting the government right now or the administration but the second question especially when you talk about klapper or some of these other individuals, they have been found to be lying to congress. why did they have this extended security clearance. >> i don't understand why you all don't hold him in contempt or prosecute him. what he did seems to me to be illegal. leaving that aside, these guys work for cable news network's. much like i am they are paid to doc on television. wouldn't that disqualify him right there or, do we get a security clearance, too? >> that's a terrific question.

like we said earlier they have the security clearance to benefit the government. the minute that they start receiving get money for the information that they have, the moment that they start monetizing the information that they have received from the government, they should no longer have that security clearance. it's something in this new age where we have cable news and people moving from government to tv, it's something that we need to think about extending the security clearances. i don't think that should be done automatically like we have done in the past with these high officers. >> i don't know why we would do it at all. brennan is clearly unhinged, she's a political extremist. isn't the point of the intel agencies to inform the executive so he can make foreign policy decisions? is there another reason that we have these agencies? >> in the past we have extended security clearances to people who had high office, and the

security clearances. we are helping the new administration and they were may be instructing and they had decided to become unhinged in many instances to accuse the presidents of the united states of actual treason, that is something and we need to start thinking about why this individual has the high security clearance. >> tucker: i don't know if the deep state thing is real, but it is bad just for that i think. thank you very much. last week on this program we reported based on the accounts of two separate sources, the democrat asked don democratic lobbyist tony podesta. he has been granted immunity,

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>> tucker: the left strives to let anyone in them into america, and as of today that's fighting to keep criminals in the united states. today the governor of new york andrew cuomo pardon seven immigrants convicted of drug dealing, assault, larceny and other crimes solely to protect them from being deported. do you think andrew cuomo would pardon you for those crimes? wouldn't even consider it because you are here illegally. meanwhile senator kirsten gillibrand is laying out the steaks because i democratic party will immediately move to abolish border enforcement. >> so when we flipped the house and flipped the senate i think the first thing we should do is deal with the children who are being separated from their families of the border. i think we should get rid of

ice. >> he is a candidate for lieutenant governor of the state of new york and he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. last time i was here i had a civil conversation with tammy and i'm expecting the same now. >> tucker: yeah, you may or may not get it, depending. [laughs] i have a very simple question. can you imagine a scenario where i get caught dealing cocaine or committing theft or committing assault, and the governor of new york wants me so much to stay in new york that he pardons me as a citizen? >> the president of the united states handed out a few pardons as well. what i think is happening is thankfully the democratic party in new york state is finally showing some leadership and my hope is that the democratic party does the same. >> so you can commit any crime

and you can stay. those are of our kinds of people, is that the message that you are saying? >> by that i need protecting human beings that are being targeted for no other reason then normally what they look like. >> so tomorrow some buddha from jamaica was pardon for larceny and assault. who did he commit assault against? >> normally speaking with talk about the crime someone has committed and we look at their lives, -- >> tucker: i get that, but he was convicted -- you don't care enough to find out is what you are saying?

i'm against all of this, i don't think you should pardon people just because they are illegal aliens, and you do. and i'm saying -- the answer is, no. but you don't know? >> i know you have a tendency to dehumanize, but these are -- >> i'm sorry, i'm trying to humanize the person. tamar shamuda is the illegal who got pardoned, but who is the guy who is assaulted? >> that is because what we are trying to do and thankfully what we are doing, and i'm not sure we have a lieutenant governor who will have things for the opposite. we should try to support them, but -- i'm sorry to interrupt. i want to humanize the victim of the assault. and so will you at least acknowledge that that is a human being, too?

, the strange thing here is, before the pardon, the person is being deported, and that's part of a group of people who we love to dehumanize. and the reason i'm going to be on trial next week, for civil disobedience, stopping any illegal deportation that occurred, is similar to the reason why i'm here, to stop the immoral deportations that are occurring because of i.c.e. and what we have done, it is decided that there are -- >> tucker: but hold on come before you give me another moral lecture -- you guys are all moral preachers now.

>> it's very important. >> i mean, as a party that is hostile to traditional christianity. and, it is dying, desiccated, hollowed out, no jobs. you can see why they would look down to new york city and say, why are they spending all this time pardoning illegal aliens, what about me? what about the fact that i didn't have a job. >> the reason why we have undocumented immigrants come up the crime weight is actually lower. if you want to look at why people don't have jobs it's not because of undocumented immigrants, it's because of policies that you tend to support on fox news and 1% are making more than 45 times the amount of the bottom 99%. so that's where you focus your energy. >> instead we are pardoning

people who committed assault because they are illegal aliens. you can see why people would worry about your priorities. >> we are trying to protect a group of people who are having babies ripped from them. >> we care about americans -- >> tucker: you don't know any of their names, i noticed. >> you don't know any of their names either. >> yoon don't know the names of the babies that were ripped from the border from their mother. >> tucker: you got me, i don't know. but i appreciate you coming on. much like your creepy lawyer, ellery requires publicity to survive. she received a bit of publicity but she may not be happy about it, she's complaining. we will tell you about what, next.

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>> tucker: just like most people in brooklyn, you just can't get enough, it's your lucky day. she might run again for the presidency of a third time but a new obstacle has appeared. a brand-new obstacle, new pictures. they show hillary clinton enjoying a dinner with disgraced hollywood producer harvey weinstein in december of 2016 after she lost the election. you have to wonder what did hillary clinton know and what is her response to the picture? tammy bruce is a new york radio host and she joins us tonight. >> knew death and taxes, right? what's interesting is, i believe it was on december 13th. if this is clearly after the shock, and about -- within a month of the shock of the election loss, that's when you bring the people closest to you, to you. that's when you are having dinner with the most important

people. they have known weinstein for decades, not like they met him a few weeks before the election. he contributed money to bill clinton's defense fund during the monica lewinsky dynamic. so he has been in their lives in a very important way for a very long time. and yes, we know that with weinstein, literally everybody knew. she is in trouble one way or the other. she's the only person on earth who did not know maybe she should be president, or she didn't know but she was misrepresenting what she knew anyway. but she can't win in this regard. she can't take responsibly for the nature of the choices she's made. >> tucker: he is not awful. from his table manners to his attitude, why would she voluntarily hang around with

someone like that? >> exactly. and it's an important kind of collection within your group, but he was important enough to have dinner with just a few weeks after that election loss. and i said to you and i will say it again, this is what i want people to realize. if hillary clinton had one, the "me too" movement would have never started and people like harvey weinstein would have been elevated into more positions of power and eric schneiderman in new york would have more power. none of the things that we see as important revelations in society that make people's lives better would not have occurred in the people like that would have been elevated. and there she is complaining about donald trump or deporting criminal illegal aliens to also make people's lives better, to improve our day-to-day living quality, especially amongst legal immigrants, people of

color and people in the inner-city. the immediate actions have been improving the quality of life for all of us. and that there she is a room lamenting and caught with the worst among us. i think every day we are reminded of the value of the choices we made in 2016. >> tucker: people of low wage and low skilled immigration. that's who does their laundry. the people who get shafted are working class. >> there is such a bubble and lack of connection with those regular people with the normals, if you will come up with that swath of middle america that has been atlas for 200 years holding up the world on their shoulders, delivering their sons and daughters in the bones for the military, feeding the world, and they have been taken for granted.

and you know, it's maybe not as dramatic, not as exciting to talk about them as it is to talk about the drama of illegal immigration and of the elites. but we know who's really understanding the impact of what donald trump is doing and how their lives, when their lives improve in the middle section of america, that is what improves the lives of everyone on the planet. >> tucker: thank you very much. the press spent a week calling the helsinki summit the treason summit. in fact the president's approval numbers went up a little bit. i had no idea the amount of damage that water could do. we called usaa. and they greeted me as they always do. sergeant baker, how are you?

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another fascinating poll by gallup found that the number of voters concerned by russia was less than 1%. just a hash mark, and the number one concern for voters on both sides of the i was immigration.

richard goodstein is joining us tonight and, the question is if you signed sounded the alarm for more than a year at the president is part of a sleeper sail working for vladimir putin to overthrow our democracy from within. i think you believe that, we are very sincere about it and very intent. you haven't commenced anybody. it is a time to do some soul-searching and ask why have i failed? >> here's the fake data. that poll that you cited, half of it was taken before that fabulous press conference that trump had with putin and half afterwards. the aggregate of poles of real clear politics has them at 43, and it's up and down. >> tucker: but the issue numbers are really interesting, don't you think? nobody cares about russia, why? >> of the fact of the matter is,

obama, rag doll mike reagan and clinton got clobbered in the midterm elections. >> but hold on, i'm not making that case. i'm not here to say republicans are in the midterm. i'm interested in the ideas, the issues and what actually is moving the country in one direction or the other and russia is what we spent a year and a half talking about because it's the most important thing because trump is a secret agent for pollutant. and in the gallup poll, i think it's a pretty good pole, but less than 1% believe you. your mouth is moving but they don't understand the words. >> trump is underwater on immigration in that very "wall street journal," and secondly, as regard to russia in the past year, more people believed that he believed a year ago that mueller is on the right

track, and more people, eight or 10% more believe russia affected the outcome of the election. i agree, it's not in the top ten. >> tucker: it's not only in the not top ten but it doesn't even rate, it's a hash mark. it's unmeasurable that the number is so small. i'm not arguing whether muller is doing a good job or whether republicans are going to win or lose the midterms. as an issue, this is insane. it's a democracy and that's what they are supposed to do. at the democrats are talking for a year and a half about something that they literally couldn't be less interested in and meanwhile there are other issues that affect their day-to-day lives. you guys are either ignoring them or they are on the wrong side. let's pardon people committing assault and larceny so they can stay in the country. let's abolish i.c.e., that's not what the public wants, right? or they want that. >> what the public wants is

economic justice and social justice. that's what i think the democrats are going to run on in 2018 and 2020 and that's what the public doesn't think they are getting. i don't go there. >> tucker: but hold on, that's -- i'm sure the viewers don't, because they know you are from tv but you are sort of the same person in your life, i don't think you are crazily dumb like crazy. that's kind of the cutting edge of your party, abolishing the i.c.e. right now. >> i understand there are people who want to dramatize the relatively few few candidates,d that is not the majority. >> tucker: we will check next week. we are out of time, good to see you. the media howell about russia, many officials are going to work on the work on the behalf of another country. the country that is overtaking

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>> tucker: all the supposedly impressive people in washington are very agitated about russia which poses precisely zero threats to the united states. they never say anything about china which poses of course a great threat to the united states, they are overtaking us at high-speed. why is that? maybe because a lot of people in washington are getting rich from china. a new piece in "the daily beast" reports that many officials including ex-house speaker john boehner and rich christianson have lobbied on

behalf of china and a lot of others. two other republicans recently accused an environmental group, the natural resources defense council come of helping china by filing environmental lawsuits against the united states military with a long-term intent of undermining military readiness. kevin joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. give us a sense of the scale of the lobbying in washington on behalf of the communist government of china. >> you mentioned the lawsuits, we had very well-funded environmental groups and the national resources defense council really stands out in it to mike that it has continuously filed lawsuits. the end result is that prevents them from doing testing on sonars that are used to detect submarines. so number one we need to get a handle on some of our environmental laws and make it possible to title this abusive litigation -- >> tucker: let me stop you there.

and that is a fair point, but how does china intersect with the nrdc? >> if there is a supreme court, winter v natural resources defense council, that went all the way up to the u.s. supreme court. the navy actually won that case and it was involving navy sonar exercises. the representative of the national defense counsel routinely meet with the members of the chinese government. this is outlined in a letter that rob bishop sent to the national resources council and another environmental group. it describes how these lawsuits puts the united states had a severe geopolitical disadvantage or making it possible for the chinese to advance our technology while we are put back on her heels. >> tucker: interesting. so the suggestion is that the national defense counsel is working in tandem with the chinese government? >> that is the accusation in the letter that was sent to the

national resources defense council. it simply says if you are lobbying or politicking for a foreign government that you need to disclose that fact. there is legislation moving in the house and senate that would actually close off some loopholes in that and unfortunately it has not been strictly enforced in the past few decades and hopefully that will change sometime soon. if natural resources defense council does not have to register as a foreign agent, it seems that nobody would have to register as a foreign agent. >> tucker: while for example paul manafort is looking at present for that. thank you very much, interesting topic. this show we are proud to say took the lead and warning the public about zombie raccoons. we were criticized for that but we are not embarrassed. the crisis has grown and we will update you on that, next.

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>> tucker: this is a public service program among other things and three months ago we warned you about the threat of zombie raccoons, but at the time were ravaging the city of youngstown, ohio. sadly the government didn't listen. now the threat is greater than ever. the authorities in new york city have now found more than two dozen dead raccoons right in central park. they all appear to have been affected by a virus that causes spasms, nasal discharges and spurts of violent or aggressive. they have been over overrun by raccoon dogs, and, and here is the key fact to remember. you know where they came from? we will tell you, russia. they snuck in from russia. raccoon dogs in the middle of the night, into finland. now they are everywhere.

couldn't happen here? [laughs] we will keep you abreast of that story because it's important. that's it for us tonight, tune in every night at eight to the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, groupthink and russia! up next to sean hannity. >> all right tucker, that's a great story about you, let's put it this way. it was meant for prudent and the president, and you stole it. >> tucker: that's true, i can't turn down a good dessert. >> sean: tonight we have confirmation, right now tonight that america's top-secret isa court system was totally abused for political gain and judges were lied to repeatedly and on purpose. the fbi is now released the 2015 foreign surveillance warrant ns