they're inoculating trump. we'll always be fair and balanced. we're not the destroy-trump media. we thank you for being with us and we hope you'll tune in tomorrow night along with the breaking news, roseanne barr will join us. you don't want to miss it. let not your heart be troubled. "the ingraham angle." you have some of my best friends on the show. you have jordan meadows and gregg jarrett who has the number one book in the country. >> laura: gregg's book is awesome. giuliani came on my show last night. i loaned him to you tonight. >> sean: is everything is everything tit for tat? >> laura: basically. you started it. you have my guests, so there. we are like brother and sister. we do this -- how long have we been fighting like this? we have been fighting like this for at least 18 years. >> sean: i'm going to tell the whole story one day, on top of the trouble he got into. like tucker in college. >> laura: watch what you ask for, hannity.

>> sean: see you tomorrow. >> laura: i am laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle." a stunning development concerning the potential fate of the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein tonight. congressman mark meadows and jim jordan have just filed, wait for it, articles of impeachment against the man tasked with overseeing the mueller probe. they will be here exclusively to tell us why in just a bit. raymond arroyo will be here to expose the literal and figurative stars broken by a pc culture gone totally mad. a special hollywood edition of our "seen and unseen" segment is ahead. you don't want to miss it. we have major stories to report about i.c.e. and the threat from china. but first, trump wins, while the resistance spins. that's the focus of tonight's angle. to listen to the media, you would think that these are the biggest stories in america. >> as the fallout from donald trump's disastrous summit with

vladimir putin continues, so does the mueller investigation into possible collusion. >> there seems to be a system in place with the trump organization for things that needed to be fixed like stormy daniels. >> that conversation with donald trump that michael cohen secretly recorded is officially no longer a secret. >> i think the big story here is that you now have michael cohen has now flipped on donald trump. >> laura: those stories are nothing more than meaningless stand ins, distractions from the most important story of the day. what is it? america is winning again because we have a president with guts. on defense, on manufacturing, our culture, trade, few presidents have fought the way trump has. even his former g.o.p. foes have had to concede the obvious. here is marco rubio on trump's interactions with china. >> on a broader scale, i don't know of any administration that has confronted china's cheating

more than this administration has, to be fair. >> laura: trump has steadfastly refused to cede america's preeminence to the communist regime of china. but remember, china already has a 23.3 trilli$23.3 trillion eco is almost $4 trillion more than our own. but with top tariffs and blunt talk, he has now brought china to the negotiating table. that is a very good thing. just today, the president met with e.u. commission president to discuss trade. after trump boosted tariffs on certain eu goods to create a fair situation for american manufactures, the eu retaliated with tariffs of its own. but today they were all singing a different tune. >> we agreed today to work together towards zero tariffs, zero non-tariff barriers and

zero subsidies on non-auto industrial goods. we will also work to reduce barriers and increase trade and services, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, medical products as well as soybeans. it will also make trade fairer and more reciprocal. >> when i was invited by the president to the white house, i had one intention. i had the intention to make a deal today. and we made a deal today. >> laura: why haven't these other presidents done what trump did? they didn't want to or they didn't have the brainpower or they didn't have the courage. today the market responded. closing at its highest level since january. this kind of advance wouldn't have been possible if trump had not raised the issue and the ante with the eu all along. the market is soaring. wages are beginning ever so slowly to rise. in fact, 213,000 jobs have been added here just last month due to trump's policies.

gdp growth is strong with an expected huge number this friday. bottom line: it's a great time to be an american, someone who is working, who wants a job. to top it all off, the president's hire americans initiative has started to produce results. there was a 41% increase of denials of h 1 b visa applicants between the third and fourth quarter. that helps american citizens over foreign workers in the job market. about time. the president is doing all of this while battling the deep state, the unfair media. of course all of the international bureaucrats they have come to know and love. and establishment politicians in washington. there are some congressmen, who despite all this great news, just refuse to get the memo that the bush era is over. >> i don't support tariffs. i think tariffs are taxes. i think there are better tools

that we can use to hold abusers of trade laws and people -- countries that perpetuate unfair trade practices, i think there are better tools to use to get them to play fairly. >> laura: if those magic tools were out there, why weren't they used before? what tools? look in the toolbox. what are they? let's remember what other experts in congress were recently saying about the tariffs. >> a wildly swung bat hitting our closest allies in a way that harms national security and our chances of better trade deals. >> i just think there's so much collateral damage it's a risky and dangerous strategy. >> this is an abuse of presidential authority. it's an abuse of presidential authority. >> laura: well, once again, guess what. they are wrong. trump stood for america with a tool that every president has used in one form or another and our economic competitors ended up doing the thing he predicted they would do. they came to the table.

they started listening, and they made concessions. more are coming. rather than taking pot shots at the president, republicans should be celebrating and promoting this approach to trade and the economy, the trump agenda. it's also their clearest path to victory in the midterms. it reminds me a word of caution for this president at the same time. we have to talk straight with all the good news. a word of caution. every time, mr. president, you comment on the latest michael cohen tape for every time you spar with lowlifes like brennan or avenatti, i think you end up giving oxygen to the stories advanced by your political opponents to distract from the most important story. that is america's economic resurgence on the restoration of our place in the world. so donald trump should be taking a victory lap almost every week in a different way, shape, or

form, things are awesome right now. the more the president's focusing on that story, the more the stormy, mueller, michael cohen sideshow is diminished. the media attempt to distract voters from the lived experience of the trump economy, but i am telling you it's not working. my radio listeners tell me every day we don't care about the stories. what's my bottom line? trump's approval today at 48%, according to a new american barometer poll. the voters know reality and they are tuning out the rest. it is kind of white noise, background noise. they can see the impact of this presidency. every day they can feel it in their pocketbooks and their lives. that's "the angle." joining me now for reaction is dan bongino, host of the dan bongino show podcast. dave bossi, former deputy campaign manager of president trump's campaign. coauthor of "let trump be trump." richard goodstein.

democratic strategist and former adviser to bill and hillary clinton. >> for your viewers, there were two more recent polls. the quinnipiac poll had his approval at 38. an the maris poll that had it at 39. in the quinnipiac poll, the question was does the president stand up for u.s. interests? 54% said no. 41% said -- >> laura: what are you saying? richard, hold on. simple question. i know you're here and you are going to say trump sucks. you're going to say that. listen for a second. you see him up there with the eu commissioner. you guys are out there saying that the tariffs are going to tank. he stood up there with the e.u. commissioner and they stood together and they said we are going to work together. we're going to lower tariffs. that was a victory. for anyone, democrat, republican, independent, to claim anything other than that was the president standing up for america is false and fraudulent.

so i hope you are not about to do that on the show tonight. >> it is a victory in the same way him standing with kim in north korea and saying we have denuclearized -- >> laura: the eu is kim? what? >> i am saying that it's empty. just like the kim deal was empty, this is a promise to talk about promising -- >> laura: they made announcements on soybeans. yes, they did, it was announced. you got that wrong. >> i don't think so. >> this president campaigned as an america first president. that's what he's done. he has done it on trade. he has done it on foreign policy. he has done it on the economy. this president has decided i'm going to take on these unfair tariffs in these bad trade deals which have been on america for the last 30 or 40 years, after i build a strong economy. that's what we have. this president, unlike any president in the recent past, has done america first and america only. he stood tall with the world doing it. >> laura: richard, you are going to get another chance to come back at me because i came at you pretty hard.

dan bongino, the friday gdp, that number, you get the sense it's going to be high. 4% plus. anyone know the last time we had a 4% gdp? >> obama, 2014. >> laura: 4% gdp was projected he was going to tank the economy. mark cuban and all these people predicting economic armageddon under donald trump. dan bongino, to hear people claim this president is asleep at the wheel, he is playing a reality game, doesn't know what he's doing, that's preposterous. look at what happened today. we have more news on china. go ahead. >> i love it, laura. keep underestimating him, folks. richard, you too. it's working so well for you. didn't you give him a 0% chance of winning? the wo"washington post" headlin.

listen, here's the deal. new rules: the democrats for eight years attacked us with the most vicious identity politics known to man. nobody gives a crap about michael cohen. nobody gives a damn about this president's personal behavior. here's the new rules. it's about winning on taxes. it's about winning on business, it's about winning on a pro-life judge agenda. saving infants in the womb. it is about saving your health care. it's about saving the education system. it's about doing the right thing for once with his government. you want to focus on a tape recording with a sleazy lawyer who taped his client? you go right ahead. knock it out. will be looking at a landslide in 2020. make no mistake. the new rules are here. it's about winning and again one more thing, probably never trump-ers out there, sacrificing our principles. b.s. this is the first president since reagan and the white house fighting for our principles. spare me the crap moral lectures. save it for someone who gives a damn, and it's not me. >> laura: when i hear paul ryan talking about, i'm for other tools. i'm sorry i had to burst out -- what is he talking about? this kemp-ian an idea that there are other tools. like reagan, bush, they didn't talk to europeans.

they talked and got nowhere. . >> donald trump's policy are going to call the sky to fall, cause a recession and cause us to go to war across the globe. none of those things have happened. that's what the democrat party stands for. the negativity. they hate this president more than they love -- >> laura: they despise them. >> i give some credit for going after the chinese who have been getting away with murder. no question about it. for example, they are getting away with murder on aluminum for example. why put tariffs on the e.u., canada, mexico? countries that are not responsible for this. >> laura: actually they are. we can do trade for an hour. >> here's what i think. here's why the numbers are dipping below 40. truthful hyperbole doesn't work. you can't say to the public "would" and the next day "wouldn't" and expect everyone is going to fall for it. people are getting wise to -- you can't say i didn't have an affair with these people and

then it comes out on tape that you did. you just can't get away with it. >> laura: well, first of all, we do know bill clinton said a lot of things that ended up not being true and he was one of the most popular president the 1990s. republicans overplayed their hand on the clinton impeachment. david bossi and i were there then. we were part of that deal, right? >> i remember. >> laura: but the american people, they said, look, the economy is great. worked with gingrich. looked like things -- welfare reform, they accomplished things. all there was, all that chaos. then i think richard would have a point. he is right, the independents, seven points down, republicans. people who identify themselves as republicans shrinking. poll came out tonight. minnesota, wisconsin, michigan. numbers are down for trump. not where he wants them to be. that's not good. he's got to not get distracted on this other stuff. >> i totally agree with you. however, these are polls based on minutes and hundreds of hours of anti-trump media.

the media bias that is pervasive across the newspapers and televisions that the american people consume every day. that's why the president go straight to the american people and tries to speak directly to them. whether it is using twitter or speaking directly to them like he did today the rose garden. this is what he's up against. he's up against hillary clinton, who will not accept defeat, didn't accept the results of the election nearly two years later or the democrat party, who hates them and wants to delegitimize. >> laura: a lot of republicans don't like him either. they hate the tariffs because -- you know what i'm going to call a lot of these people? corker doesn't need the money. he's rich. these other guys, future lobbyist ryan. future lobbyist flake. sorry, i might be uncharitable but i imagine they'll be doing some lobbying. dan bongino, listen to an exchange. secretary of state mike pompeo was on capitol hill. he was grilled by the senate. watch this exchange. >> how do i know the difference

between a presidential statement that's not a policy and a statement that is? >> senator, here's what you should look at. compare the following. barack obama speaking tough on russia and doing nothing. >> i understand you want to rewrite the obama policy on russia. >> he would have more flexibility. >> my question isn't about -- i know you want to turn -- >> i want to look at facts. >> laura: at that point, chris murphy kind of gave up. he was like, can i buy a vowel? this guy is fighting back. your reaction. they are trying to distract that putin owns trump. trump is giving it all way to moscow. it just seems mickey mouse to me. i'm not saying the trump administration has handled everything right. i do not think they handled

post-helsinki situation right. i want a better relationship with putin. i would've said that. i wouldn't have apologize. i wouldn't have changed, wouldn't, would. nevertheless, it looks like penny-ante stuff on capitol hill. most people, their wallets are getting thicker. >> but, laurie, what's interesting about this is the trump administration isn't saying they handled everything right. he came out the next day and corrected and made a course correction. i ask the american people candidly. it's an honest question. do you want a president under barack obama who was honestly weak and then weak in action, or do you want a president like president trump who goes out. he talks candidly. he doesn't always use a teleprompter. sometimes that requires them to dial a few things back, which he has. but then who acts in a strong pro-america fashion? your choice? obama talked weak, acted weak and basically subverted american values on the international stage. now you have a guy, all right, has to correct some things. that's fine. look at what he's actually doing. that's what should matter.

and you know, this is all showmanship up on capitol hill. that was ridiculous. i watched the whole thing today. >> laura: richard, the dow is up 38% since the election. s&p up 33%. nasdaq up 52.7%. don't you wish you bought the futures? winning. >> as regards weakness, to say a former fbi, former kgb head, putin, gets more deference than our intelligence community, that's weak. sorry. that not projecting weakness, that's inviting people -- that's inviting other corrupt governments to take a run at us. i'm sorry. >> laura: do you know what the size of the russian economy is? >> it's 30th in the world. >> laura: you are worked up on it like he's wearing underwear with a hammer and sickle on it. he wants to get along with russia because he things we're going to get something for israel, in syria, in north korea and we need russia's help to triangulate against china.

we need it. >> the quinnipiac poll says people think he's doing it with putin because of -- >> because of what the democrats have been feeding the american people lie after lie night after night. >> we will find out when mueller is done. we will. i really think we will. >> laura: fantastic segment. i said to richard i love his suit tonight. isn't that a beautiful suit? look at his eyes, blue eyes. oh, you look fine, you other two. house republicans -- you all look great tonight. house republicans have officially filed articles of impeachment against deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. gulp. the two congressmen leading the charge, meadows and jordan, joined me exclusively. what comes next? you will find out. jordan, joined me exclusively. what comes next? what comes next? you will find

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jim jordan and mark meadows, who are spearheading the effort. we are also joined by fox news anchor and author of the new fantastic book, the best seller "the russia hoax," gregg jarrett. great to see all of you. congrats, gregg, on the book. congressmen meadows, what are you accusing rod rosenstein of? >> really for nine months, we have asked for documents. that's all we want are the documents. what we have found is not only have subpoenas been ignored, but information has been hidden. efforts have been stonewalled. i guess for us it's all about transparency so the american people can judge for themselves. so they may be able to ignore congress, but they can't ignore the american people. >> laura: this is what andy mccarthy wrote in the national review. he said "rosenstein and christopher wray, they worked for trump. they are not obama holdovers. they are trump appointees. if they are defying congress, it's because the president is permitting them to do so. the president is empowered to give his subordinates a direct order to comply with congressional demands and fire them immediately if they fail to

do so." >> we have sent a letter to the president. mark, myself, congressman desantis. get us the information. >> laura: have you spoken to him? why won't he declassify? >> we sent the letter several weeks ago. we have sent numerous letters. two subpoenas they haven't complied with. we have caught the department of justice hiding information, redacting information they shouldn't have. we know that rod rosenstein threatened house committee intel staffers when they were trying to do their job, our job of doing the constitutional job we are supposed to do. we know what the justice department did with the dossier. rod rosenstein signed the third renewal which was based on the dossier which we know, parts of it came from bruce ohr and his wife nellie. the whole ordeal. we are tired of the justice department giving us the finger and not giving us the information we are entitled to do to do our constitutional duty more importantly, the american people are sick of it.

>> laura: in just a moment i'm going to ask you what leadership, including outgoing house speaker paul ryan, is saying about all this. gregg jarrett, i want to go to you. gregg, this is what happened on capitol hill just recently when congressman jordan was trying to question rod rosenstein. let's watch. >> mr. rosenstein, why are you keeping information from congress? >> congressman, i am not keeping any information from congress. >> in a few minutes, i think the house of representatives is going to say something different. >> i don't agree with you, congressman. i don't believe that's what they're going to say. >> laura: no love lost between the republicans on capitol hill and rosenstein. gregg, what is going on? do you think this idea of an impeachment vote, if they can get one, is a good idea? >> absolutely. rosenstein has treated congress with nothing but contempt and should be held in contempt. and impeached if appropriate. this is a guy who's been

covering up from the very beginning, for nine long months, the origins of the trump-russia hoax. as i argue in my book, he and others never had any evidence of collusion. there was no evidence of crimes or intelligence to justify a counterintelligence probe. rosenstein is a guy who put his signature on a document to renew the wiretap warrant application, and he knew that that was a fabricated, phony document. he didn't present new evidence, as the law demands. he vouched for its authenticity when he knew it was unverified and fabricated, and that is a fraud on the court and abuse of power. >> laura: mark meadows, it's been 122 years since a member of the executive branch has been impeached. it's a long time. >> it's a long time. >> laura: i'm not talking about the president, an executive branch employee other than the president.

paul ryan doesn't strike me as the kind of guy, on his way out, long good-bye, paul ryan. who would be keen on this. how do you get a vote on impeachment without getting paul ryan's nod? >> we hope it doesn't have to come to that. obviously this is the first step tonight, but it doesn't require consent from the speaker. it's a privilege motion, so what we put in today was not privileged. it goes in and gets referred to the judiciary committee. but starting tomorrow, we can bring it up as a privileged motion. >> laura: what does that mean, for people who don't understand? >> i'm glad you asked. it means it would require a vote on the house floor within two days. that is something any member of congress can do. quite frankly, it's either we hold him in contempt or we give the documents, or we impeach him. the only thing that we have control over is the ability to bring impeachment straight to the floor. >> laura: congressman jordan, any concern that this will

divide the g.o.p. before the midterm elections? the freedom caucus has kind of an interesting relationship with most of congress. it's not necessarily a positive one at times. but a lot of the republicans are like oh, my god. every time they hear freedom caucus. >> we don't get that back home. >> laura: back home, they love what you're doing. >> doesn't divide the republican voters. >> laura: you don't care who you offend on capitol hill. >> we care about doing the right thing. it might have been 120 years since someone has been impeached. when was the last time you saw the fbi to get disproven document with no credibility, no validity, take it to a secret court and not tell the court who paid for it and that the guy who wrote it was leaking information to the press? and not just once, four stinking times. the last one, rod rosenstein signed. if that's not enough to force the action, as gregg talked about, contempt or impeachment, tell me what it, tell me what is. we have been this patient -- we

started this a year ago in july asking for documents. we started with the letters. >> laura: which documents in particular? >> all of them. they have a subpoena with nine different things. they are not in compliance with three elements of the subpoena issued by bob goodlatte. after we first asked for them in letters. >> laura: are there state department documents you wanted that you haven't gotten? >> we do now. >> laura: i had the sense that something was happening. >> in the last few hours, we found out about that. here's the thing. why do we have to dig so deep to find out information that should come free-flowing, if we are really interested in justice? >> laura: gregg, let's go back to may when rosenstein really got his back up. let's watch. >> any reaction to the news that certain members of the house freedom caucus have talked about drafting articles of impeachment? >> i can tell you people have been making threats privately and publicly against me for quite some time. i think they should understand by now the department of justice is not going to be extorted.

>> laura: extorted. every time i hear that, i can't believe that is the deputy attorney general. jeff sessions, bad choice. >> this is a very vindictive man. i was the first to report, actually, that he threatened individuals of the intelligence committee. i reported it in early february. how did i report it? i talked to two people in that meeting. they both felt that he was threatening them to get his hands on their emails and texts and telephone records if they didn't back off this investigation. that is the kind of guy rod rosenstein is. he is presiding over an investigation in which he's a key witness and refuses to disqualify himself, even though it's mandatory. you can't be a prosecutor, a witness, an investigator and the judge all rolled into one. it's a violation of the

regulations and the code of professional conduct for lawyers. >> laura: mark meadows, before we let you go, what's next for this? within two days, you could have a vote? >> hopefully tonight is a whole lot of discussion going on. i've had conversations with the speaker's office. we are hopeful we get these documents we identified today. if not, as soon as tomorrow, we can do a privileged motion that would require a vote in two days. i think the american people are tired of talk. just like jim was talking about, they want action. it's up to rod rosenstein. >> laura: is kevin mccarthy with you on this? >> i haven't talked to kevin. >> laura: great to have you both on. "the russia hoax," get this book, gregg jarrett, fantastic job. you want to understand a very complicated story and a total scam and waste of time for the country, read gregg's book. gregg, thanks so much. by the way, the president has a star on the hollywood walk of fame, and it's been smashed to pieces. that is the state of affairs.

they can't even stand to see his name in marble. the pc fallout coming up. raymond arroyo is with us. don't go away. the pc fallout coming up. raymond arroyo i

>> laura: it is time for "seen and unseen," where we expose what's going on by the big cultural stories of the day. president trump's star on the hollywood walk of fame was smashed to pieces early this morning. that may not be the most upsetting fact about the incident. for more, we are joined by fox news contributor, "new york times" best-selling author, raymond arroyo. this isn't the first time trump's star has been defaced. >> sadly, it is not. multiple defacement. this star has been defaced more than cher. austin clay, this guy, 24-year-old today walks in with a guitar case, opens it, there's a pick axe inside.

he whales on the star. this is nothing original. it happened in october of 2016. we have video of it. there have been multiple defacement of the star. they put stickers on it. they put marks on it. people have, you remember george low pressure -- lopez -- >> laura: urinated on it. thank god we don't have that video. it's like a construction site. why do they have fluorescent vests? >> when you look at it, it's an impulse to destroy, eradicate anything that offends you or that you disagree with. this idea, this mentality has slipped into other areas of hollywood. >> of culture. >> look at james gunn. james gunn is a $100 million director of guardians of the galaxy. disney fired him last weekend. they found tweets from seven and ten years ago where he made fun of child rape, pedophilia. nasty stuff. they instantly fired him. the hollywood reporter said in

firing james, disney, it hurts all of hollywood. this is what they said. so long as there has been no actual criminal activity there has to be a difference between who a person was and who a person is. and we have to allow for the fact that people can change. the stars of "guardians of the galaxy" surrounded him. they're arguing -- >> chris pratt came -- >> he issued a scripted quote. here's the bottom line. if people can change, why wasn't the same mercy to roseanne barr, to amy powell, head of paramount television. she made a racially charged comment about an upcoming show. they got rid of her instantly. i believe in redemption. i think people are going to make mistakes. we see this idea that some offenses are instantly ex-communicable, and they instantly drive you out. you are unemployable. >> laura: you can't work ever. >> this is a panel from this

weekend. actress zoe kravitz in the harry potter spin-off said this. >> if you could use your magic in the real world for good, what would you do? >> impeach trump. >> [laughs] [cheering] >> wouldn't it be better to just apparate him out of existence. >> dan is really good at making up spells. what would be the impeachment spell? >> right. impeacheous maximus. >> so i guess some speech -- there were a lot of people at comic-con who felt why did they have to politicize -- >> laura: everything is political. comicon is the infantilization of adults. i was once in the same city. these are men in their 40s and 50s dressed up as captain

america. wonder woman. i don't like costumes. i'm not a costume person. i don't like costume parties. these are adults. these are parents, grandparents. >> you wouldn't have liked johnny depp who got up at the end of that panel and he appeared in costume as the villain he plays in the movie. a character who wants a racially pure wizarding world. some thought this was a sly slap at donald trump. >> we, who live for freedom, for truth, the moment has come. to rise up and take our rightful place in the world. >> apparently some offenses are acceptable. others are not. i would like to get the rulebook on what's instantly fireable or not. johnny depp's ex-wife charged him with abusing her in their

marriage. he was allowed to speak. j.k. rowling defended him. they kept him on the film. other people engage in the same behavior and they fire them instantly. hollywood needs to get it stories straight. it's selective morality. >> laura: it gets me thinking. could i apparate you? >> me? >> laura: wow. >> is this what you mean by seen and unseen? >> laura: it worked. this is great. if only nancy pelosi were here. just a joke. >> can you bring me back? >> laura: you are gone. despite abolish i.c.e. protests sweeping liberal strongholds across the country, the agency is scoring huge wins in the fight against illegal immigrant crime. details coming up. illegal immi. details coming you're trying to lower your very high triglycerides with a healthy diet... and exercise. and maybe even, unproven fish oil supplements.

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abolishing i.c.e. has become a cause du superjour. anti i.c.e. protests popping up in cities from philly to san francisco. this demonstration of the i.c.e. field office in portland, oregon, has been going on nonstop since june 17. i hope they are taking shower breaks. at the same time i.c.e. is doing their job, ensuring illegals gunning down cops are brought to justice. like this man. 29-year-old wisner desmaret, a haitian national who faces eight felonies for shooting a fort myers, florida, police officer in the head over the weekend. i.c.e. slapped a detainer on him who is suspected to be illegal immigrant. do you really want to protest this kind of work? the officer is still in very, very serious condition. we should note that the officer is in critical condition tonight. a great sign he has begun to breathe on his own, and our prayers are with his family and him.

it's a horrific deal that he's gone through. joining me for reaction is john torres, former acting director of i.c.e. during the george w. bush administration, and immigration attorney allen orr. tough stuff here. i.c.e. and protests, shut down i.c.e., reform i.c.e. allen, you are a democrat, and immigration attorney. protesting i.c.e. when i.c.e. is doing, frankly, god's worker, on this violent crime stuff. this officer's family, they are devastated. illegal immigrants almost killed him. still not out of the woods. your reaction? >> on this specific case of the police officer, it doesn't happen that often. >> laura: it doesn't happen that often? >> nope. >> laura: is one police officer not too many? one american dead is not too many? >> it's an anomaly. >> laura: anomaly. if that were a member of your family, would you call that victim an anomaly. that victim an anomaly? >> i would not.

>> laura: don't call a police officer an anomaly. >> i would call it a situation anomaly. a foreign national is ten times less likely to be involved in a crime than anyone else. the concern around i.c.e. is not with regards who what i.c.e. is doing but who they are concentrating on. i.c.e. has been concentrating on those individuals such as the one you've talked about in the police case. they are doing low-hanging fruit. they are arresting people appearing in court, testifying in a crime or people appearing to their hearings are just going to work. i.c.e. is in focusing on the levels they're supposed to be doing protecting security nationwide. that's the concern. >> laura: here are some facts. i.c.e. arrests are rising. you say they're not doing real criminal arrests, and john, you can comment. fiscal year 2018 thus far, 675 criminal arrests versus last year, 139. seems like a fivefold increase to me. that's pretty good. administrative arrests, 984. 172 in 2017. they are doing both. they're doing admin arrests, criminal arrests. john, you are doing it.

i get very emotional about this. always, always, as a criminal defense attorney, always suspicious of prosecutors. that's kind of my background. but when a police officer, a child, a woman, domestic abuse, child abuse, human trafficking, the things we've seen done. i can't abide by it. anomaly or not anomaly, we shouldn't have one american brutalized by someone who shouldn't be here. they shouldn't be here. john? >> i've been seeing this criticism for my entire career. i can think of a number of times where a police officer has been shot and not only were they shot and killed or seriously wounded but it was because they were in a community with they were not cooperating with i.c.e. the police department ignored a i.c.e. warrant, an immigration detainer and let the person walk out of their jail. that same person later on goes and shoots a police officer. next thing you know, we are getting calls from the city

saying can you set up cooperation with us. we want to work especially. with the criminals and you. let's talk about the criminals. last year, i.c.e. arrested almost 33,000 people on criminal charges. they rescued or identified over 500 child victims of predators. they arrested -- i mean, they identified or rescued almost 1,000 people related to human trafficking. not talking about even the thousands of gang members they arrest every year or the million pounds of illicit narcotics they seize every year or the nearly half a billion dollars they seize in illicit financing. they do a lot more work than just immigration. it is sad to me that the agents of i.c.e. and homeland security investigations get painted with a broad brush and they get accused of being -- >> laura: it's very emotional. you get families. mothers crying, separated from their children. the images are very heart-wrenching for americans to see. i'm a mother.

i don't want to see moms separated. that does play on the other side. and i see bad guys. let the families stay together. >> we were talking about the same thoughts. those are families. that's a woman's child. those are the same -- >> laura: what about the children in nigeria who want to be here and they have to do with the legal way? we could play that game all day long. >> it's not a game because they are not here. >> laura: they broke the law. people in nigeria are waiting to tom here and waiting in line. >> asylum is a legal process. >> laura: none of it is fraud? >> there may be some fraud involved. but right now, those individuals are entering the lawful way so they require due process. you don't take a child away and then say let me see if you can have the family. >> laura: do you think they should be deported together back to their home country or do you think children should stay behind questioning the argument made by the aclu that some children should have their cases litigated separately from their parents which seems to fly in the face of family unification.

>> i didn't see that specific case. but i don't think they should have been separated in the first place. there should've been a process where they came in, file for asylum. >> laura: should they get obamacare in the first month? >> there is no proof behind the fact they are getting obamacare. >> laura: should they? i'm asking. if were going to be compassionate, obamacare, recreational facilities, should they get those? >> i believe whatever benefits we give to individuals that we have should be afforded to them. they are already doing. >> laura: i just want to know. how much you're willing to spend? 37 years old, in 2014, he killed two california police officers. he laughed when he's being sentenced. he looked into the cameras and laughed. he knew exactly what he was doing. i remember that case. it was brutal. he shot him in the head. he said he wanted to kill more. the idea that it's an anomaly. >> all those cases the fact that he that person was undocumented,

was not a part of the crime. police let people go who go on and do violent things. it happened in school shootings. it's not inherent. it's a problem with releasing individuals. >> laura: they shouldn't be in the country in the first place. you do not have a universal right to emigrate to the united states illegally. i know some people believe that, but there just is no universal right. our framers didn't intend it. our founders didn't intend it. the declaration, constitution. there is a legal process and if you don't follow the legal process, you end up in criminal activity, you should banished from the country. and never be able to come back. >> the problem is that congress hasn't done anything for ten years. >> laura: there is laws on the books. >> they should do more. >> laura: look, there's heart breaking stories around the world. everybody wants to come here. a lot of people want to come here. you can't bring everyone. bill clinton said that, obama said that. great conversation. didn't mean to jump on you but it's an issue we all care about. student or spy? a case of espionage by china at

duke university right after this. a case of espionage by china at

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>> laura: when they say russia, i say china. that's what i've been saying about the threats posed from china every time the left gets in a tizzy about the former soviet union.

the latest example, 35-year-old ruopeng liu, already a billionaire, mr. liu dubbed by the chinese as the chinese elon musk for his efforts to send people into space. and his work on cutting edge projects like jet powered surfboards. sounds like a creative guy. where is he getting these ideas? reports that mr. liu simply stole intellectual property from one of america's most well-regarded scientists. david smith of duke university. >> we know that the chinese have a shopping list of intelligence and technology that they target every year. we know that the research he took from duke university was on that collection list, and we know that certain government officials and operatives met with him while he was in the united states. they came in and took pictures and measurements of all the equipment and sent it back to china. >> laura: take measurements and send it back to china. joining me for a reaction is dean cheng, senior research

fellow at the heritage foundation's asian studies center. this is nothing new but it still shocks me. he comes to duke university, lawfully here. suddenly he is a big billionaire back home and he has cutting edge technology from dr. smith. >> yep. well, he is -- the -- mr. liu basically said he came to duke university specifically to work with that professor. he had been following his work for years and apparently brought several of his colleagues over to work on it as well. >> laura: how do we continue to allow this, given how bad a job we've done to combat intellectual property theft in the united states? >> here's a couple of statistics to show you how bad things are. there are 350,000 chinese students in the united states. >> laura: all paying cash. >> yes, that's part of why they are here. because for the university of california, they get $40,000 for a foreign student.

$13,000 for an in-state student. is it any surprise that as a result there are six times as many now chinese students at berkeley for example than there were ten years ago. >> laura: 35% of all foreign students now in american universities are chinese. >> that's right. >> laura: if you could devise government policy, what would it look like? >> i think there's a couple of things. one of the things, obviously if you're a professor taking or taking money from darpa or dod, to do research, you obviously need to be very careful of who you accept even on work and projects that are not in turn funded by darpa. >> laura: what is darpa? >> defense advanced research projects agency. super high-tech secret warriors. >> laura: i love the acronym from washington. no one knows what they mean. i have to ask. >> absolutely. the other thing we need to do is we need to promote stem, science, technology engineering and mathematics research in the

united states. one of the reasons why we bring in so many foreign grad student is that americans aren't willing to study stem and foreign students are. >> laura: the liberal arts. everyone is doing environmental science. that's important. it's good. psychology. everyone, what major are you? i'm a psych major. oh, okay. i'm majoring in english. okay. what are you going to do for work? how are you going to make money? >> that's a fundamental problem. >> laura: ivanka trump is doing a big push on s.t.e.m. for girls, which i think is really important. she is really spending a lot of time on that, pushing that initiative. it's critical. >> absolutely. unfortunately you have professors, for example at the university of illinois, they are pushing -- math is about grievance. it's about whiteness. >> laura: whiteness? a whiteboard that you are writing the equations on? i still don't understand. >> foreign students come here wanting to do all the hard math and science and all that. american students, too many are being taught by professors whose attitude is you know what math

is about? math is about oppression. >> laura: scary. thank you. we will have you on again. this story is not going away. when we come back, michael avenatti. it's like a squatter who will not leave your television. ever. and now his hypocrisy is bad enough to shatter it. we will explain a moment. shatt. we will explain a

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>> finally tonight a man who spent the last few months living in a cable news studio has gotten camera shy. after demanding transparency from donald trump on his alleged relationship with stormy daniels, michael venatti block the media from covering his testimony on bankruptcy, default on millions in debt and fallen behind on payroll taxes. the closing question tonight is

what are you trying to hide? we will keep searching for the answers. was he born with a microphone coming out of his chest? that is all the time we have but i have shannon breen and the fox we begin with a fox news alert. three major stories, the trump administration calls it a big the european union, avoiding a potential trade war on that front. lindsey graham joins us to weigh in on that. articles of impeachment against deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. it is about to happen. the president and his allies fighting back over leaked conversations about possible payment, the story of a playboy