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>> laura: welcome to "the ingraham angle." i'm laura ingraham. from washington. ahead tonight, the stories that matter to you told in a way you're not going to hear anywhere else. of course. the economy roaring. exemplified by a sterling gdp number. is that enough for president's critics? you wouldn't believe what the reactions have been. for this great news for all americans. plus, remember that michael cohen bombshell that dropped on cnn last night? we covered it last night in the angle. we're going to tell you how flimsy it really is. in tonight's friday follies, raymond aroyo reveals the lacks of creativity in hollywood and one stinky plane. i can't believe we're doing that
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story. and we start tonight with a story you won't get anywhere else. the revenge of obama era judicial nominees. two cases, maybe three, that show you how certain judges can have an outside influence over the policy of this country. the president of the united states and your lives. first, a federal district court judge thursday denied a trump administration request to dismiss a lawsuit challenging their decision to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census. a policy, by the way, that is completely constitutional, completely sound. judge jesse furman from the southern district of new york, an oor -- obama appointee, said the challengers had successfully proven there's a heightened risk in the current april political
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climate of a lower response rate due to the pet's anti-immigrant rhetoric. i kid you not. that's a judge. a federal judge in portland oregon has ruled allowing a trans-gender high school school student in an oregon school district does not violate the privacy rights of other students that may object to sharing that space. the district judge marco hernandez threw out the lawsuit filed by parents for privacy. they wanted this group called parents for privacy in dallas saying the ruling, if the parents are upset, they can remove their children from dallas high school if they disapprove of the trans-gender student access to these facilities. thanks. to discuss this trend of the politicized judiciary run amuck, let's bring in two attorneys. hamed dylan and the chair of the political action committee. scott, you're here. i'm lonely in here without either of you but i'm going to make due. all right. let's start with you on the citizenship question on the
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census. up until 1950, we did have it on the census. the census changes and we didn't ask that question. tell us about the posture of this case and this police judge, jesse furman. >> laura what is happening here is that these judges are, you know, taking these cases and imposing their own judicial philosophy and new standards that are not written into the law into these cases. you saw the exact same reasoning that judge furman used here, which is that wilbur ross, in charge of the census in his department, had made some remarks about the reasoning behind wanting to count citizens that raised an issue of animus. well the united states supreme court recently ruled that this animus theory is bogus and one of the elements that shouldn't be applied. clarence thomas has spoken out on nationwide injunctions. so basically, this is a
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confusion and we have an unelected judge trying to supersede and impose his values over what the president gets to do, asking a very reasonable question in the executive branch. that's what the census is for, to count the people in the country. >> laura: they're counting all people. >> count the immigrants. >> laura: hold on, scott. they're counting all people. there's a question about whether you're a citizen or not. now, what is the problem with answering the question? i don't understand that. what is the possible constitutional argument here? >> well, because it's racially offensive, first of all. >> laura: what does it have to do with race? whether you're a citizen? >> it's directed at brown people and black people. >> laura: you're making that up. >> of course it is. >> laura: how is it directed at brown people in it's directed at all people. you ask a question. i get asked the question. you get asked the question. >> you couple that with donald
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trump's -- regardless of the prourt -- -- supreme court -- >> laura: okay. >> can i say this? that case didn't also -- wasn't just rested on discrimination issues. the apa was violated. the court found despite the advisory committees as well as staff ruling against it or recommending against it, wilbur took it upon his own to put it in place. the case is not over. they just got passed a motion to dismiss. it's not the final decision. >> laura: it's not the final decision. but to say it's racial -- so now you can't -- scott, now you're saying a question asked of all people is racist? all americans would have to answer the question. that's unbelievable to me. you're a smart guy. >> it might not be racist but has a racial disparent impact. >> laura: why? >> it's absurd. >> laura: we have to move on. all right. we have to move on. we got another case.
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>> does that mean i'm right? >> laura: out of portland involving trans-gender bathrooms. we've heard the trans-gender bathroom case and issue for a long time. but this is interesting because it's a parent group that has gotten together and said we understand that transgender kids have rights. but we represent families whose students, sons and daughters do not want to share a bathroom for whatever reason with a transgendered person who is born of the opposite sex. this judge said you don't have any privacy rights here. if you have a problem, leave the district. harmeet, would that take the scrutiny? i know it's the ninth district. anything goes in the ninth circuit. it's a harsh ruling against that parent's group. maybe i'm misreading it. >> i agree with you. i think it's harsh and it's wrong. obviously transgender students who may need a number of
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supports and medical support, they have rights, obviously. the vast majority of them are not transgender and they have rights, too, including privacy rights. people trans-gender in their youth, they may switchback and forth. the spector has been raised, which is a real one, of people abusing this trans-gender labelling and electing it in order to peep and get into the girl's bathrooms. it's not really -- >> goodness gracious. >> it's not appropriate to look at one side or the other. i can tell you in girls locker rooms, we've been there. everything is showing. it's not really something that you want as a teenager to have a guy looking at your body. sorry to say. >> laura: i don't want anybody looking at my body. i don't like anybody. i'm one of the shy people. >> it's a slap in the face for the judge to say -- the parents are taxpayers. they have a right to have their kids educated fairly. >> laura: scott, do the parents have rights here? or just the trans-gender kids? >> not compared to the protective class that the trans-gender student rests in.
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look at this way. the judge is following the law. they have no politics here. every federal judge that has looked at this case and similar cases across the country, you check the record. they have sided with the transgendered student because they cannot be discriminated against because they identify with being a woman or identify with being a guy. it's not anatomy that counts. they're in a protected class. this decision is based on the law. you don't like it but you have to live with it. >> laura: harmeet, last word. >> anatomy does count and it's relevant and the other students have privacy rights too. >> laura: there has to be some balance. >> the judge said that was conjecture. pure conjecture. you're going to be naked. come on, stop it. >> maybe the judge is not living in reality. give me a break. >> laura: scott, the fraternity brothers where i -- when i went to college, the fraternity brothers are like pranksters.
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okay, i identify as this today and tomorrow -- and people playing jokes all the time too. it's a serious matter. then there's pranksters out there that take advantage of it. >> i don't think you and your guests take it seriously the plight of these young people who identify with a different gender. >> laura: come on. >> they're in a protected class. >> i have friends who are transgender. >> laura: read the research -- >> i read the opinions on both of these cases and their accurate -- >> laura: harmeet, i want to congratulate you on the ninth circuit ruling that your civil rights case, the people that beat up the trump supporter and you represented them and pro bono the whole way. they said your case can go forward. we're going to watch that closely. you had a great argument. thanks for being here. no thank you. congratulations also.
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>> laura: and a bomb shell that was nothing. cnn's reporting surrounding trump's knowledge of the 2016 russian meeting rests on michael cohen. you remember what the media thought of him, right? >> it's a group of scumbags like michael cohen sitting around in cahoots with each other. >> michael cohen, the goon that he is. is he serious about becoming president? michael cohen does him no favors. >> this guy is a thug with a law degree and a billionaire boss. >> he shouldn't be a lawyer. that's not the way you communicate. you don't go to law school to act like a thug. >> laura: so a thug. then you don't take what a thug says to heart, right? the media would have questions about his reliability? his credibility? no, no, no. what he says now has got to be right. >> if he is willing to talk to robert mueller, which sources
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say that he is, is that a game changer? >> michael cohen talking to robert mueller. isn't he a gold mine? >> this is collusion. this is an attempt, a fraud on the american people. >> if this is true, this is collusion. they're colluding with a secret kremlin plot. this is it. this is the ball game right here. >> wile e. coyote almost has the roadrunner. acme tnt. goodness. we have a lot to get to with two of my favorite people. could this be enough to get the president this time? here to react, sarah carter and the federalist molly hemingway, fox news contributors. molly? >> it's interesting. people on this story day after day, month after month, year after year finally think they found the thing that will bring donald trump down. the idea that michael cohen is the lynchpin to the entire case and everything will crumble is fascinating that people would cling to that. probably if he was so important
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to this, bob mueller wouldn't have spun him off. his case was spun off to a different venue. if he were that important, i don't think we would see bob mueller letting him go. >> laura: sarah, this is what jeff tubin said when he was pressed around whether or not this is important. this is what i do in the morning. i watch for these sound bites. this is my life. we have to watch this and your reaction. >> is michael cohen telling the truth about this? >> if he is, then what is president trump guilty of? >> the question is, did -- is -- did the trump campaign aid and abet and assist the russians? >> laura: abet. but aid and abet. he said mueller has charged a conspiracy. >> they don't know what to�-- >> they don't know what words -- >> laura: i like jeff, but come on. >> they don't even know what to
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say. i was doing the same thing today. i thought what is cnn talking about? they're so much news across the globe and all cnn could do is talk about cohen over and over and over again. they were pounding this. cohen's got to be right. now he has information that, you know, he has on president trump. but they called him donald. they refuse to call him president. >> laura: i noticed that. >> they disrespect that he's the president. they say donald must have known about this meeting with natalia and don jr. and these russians. they were trying to get information from the russians. well, it's something that molly and i talk about frequently. we were talking about just before we came in to see you. if donald trump jr. went to that meeting and even if they were going to offer him something, why don't we just go back to hillary clinton and the dnc paying a foreign spy from great britain to collect information from the russians to spread disinformation.
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>> this is an important point. if you think there's something nefarious about collecting information -- i mean the whole point here is if trump knew that we were going to bring him down, if you believe that, then you should have a really serious problem with hillary clinton and the dnc secretly pieing and paying for an operation where you hire a foreign spy and according to his own claims, sourced that to the kremlin. he says he got his information from the kremlin operatives. so if you think this is a horrible thing you should be concerned about the dossier. now we learned the dossier wasn't just used by the clintons. >> that's right. >> it was weaponized by the federal government and used to spy on an american citizen. >> laura: remember when civil libertarians used to care about big brother, big brother spying on us. big brother is looking. now suddenly anything goes. if an intel agent or an intel agency says something, it's saying it can never be questioned. >> sacrosanct to the point,
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laura, that they omitted information in the fisa that showed that even christopher steele, himself, one, was bias because we know that christopher ohr's testimony proved that and he worked for the department of justice and demoted twice and nelle ohr worked for fusion gps. not only that, christopher steele himself couldn't verify the information that he was collecting from the russians. okay. we're going to believe it, we're going to open a fisa warrant investigation on carter page, water going to spy on president trump and drag the entire a year and a half into this mess with robert mueller. >> laura: and this is cohen from 2017. he said in a tweet, i'm so proud of donald trump jr. for being open, honest and transparent to the american people. this nonsense needs to stop. that was after the issue with the meeting came out initially. >> cohen says he has no evidence to support his own claim. you people that say otherwise. but again, this points to the
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actual issue of cohen's credibility. >> laura: who cares if he knew. >> the point being the entire case of the russia collusion hinges on him going to prague to secretly conspire with the russians. he said he didn't go. if he's a truth teller around denies this central claim that underpins the russia collusion theory, how come it didn't matter? now it matters because something he said might somehow be -- >> molly is right on that. >> laura: do either of you find it curious that no one in the sort of more mainstream press does any like serious reporting on this? serious reporting on mueller, on what is taking so long and why this attorney client privilege material is dropping out, lanny davis' past associations, the countries and the foreign entities that he's represented over the years? they're going after manafort for ukraine. but what is lanny davis' clients list looks like?
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let's look at that. >> this is one of the most terrifying things about this story. >> laura: yeah. >> you have a week like this where all the things we heard about the fisa court being misled are confirmed by actual documents. the media doesn't report it. they're gas-lighting and making reality seem the opposite of what it is. when you have a case like this, we should have the media pouring all its -- i get they don't like trump but they need to report on this issue -- we know it's established. the trump campaign was surveilled in multiple ways. wiretapped, human informants, national security letters. >> laura: if they were done with hillary, they would be -- >> all the resources, laura, that "the new york times" has, "the washington post" have, with the great history they've had as well which is why people became journalists, to do investigative reporting. they stepped back and let our narrative roll because we -- we came up with the narrative.
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>> laura: the amazon post is dedicated to one thing. getting trump out of office. they want to recreate the old glory days. the big anniversary of starting the impeachment today. >> it's about impeachment. >> laura: they want a pulitzer prize for that reporting. they're not going to report on the other stuff. great for being here. trump defies the critics again. the gdp report, wow! just the latest example that the economy is roaring back to life under this president. so why is the media not cheering the results? the white house is here to respond next. ♪ keep it comin' love. if you keep on eating, we'll keep it comin'. all you can eat riblets and tenders at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
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>> we're on track to hit the highest annual average growth rate in over 13 years. i will say this right now and i'll say it strongly, as the trade deals come in one by one, we're going to go a lot higher than these numbers. these are great numbers. >> laura: it's become a running theme. trump defies the critics again and again. the latest example, the fairly stunning gdp numbers that dropped this morning. but it was no surprise to me, like clock work, the media are doing their level best to down play the great news. >> one quarter of growth does not a transformed economy make. we all know the numbers bounce
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around quarter to quarter. >> it's good to see but will it last. >> exactly. >> president trump will take a lot of credit for the numbers. don't believe him. he's -- a lot of people who bought things because they're worried about his tariffs and a lot of false growth from the tax cuts juicing the economy. >> laura: i heard people saying it was all obama's economy. all of them were really excited about his chance for more american success. here to react is the chairman of the white house council of economic advisers, kevin hasett. ' thanks for being here. >> thanks. >> laura: i know you're not surprised. this number comes out and -- we're going to play the great predictions from last year. and these media types do everything in their power to down play it or give the credit to president obama. it's stunning. >> yeah. after president trump, it's laura ingraham's economy, right? because he pursued the policies
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you have been advocating for years and years. how long have we known each other? >> laura: 20 plus years. >> the fact is we said if we cut corporate taxes the jobs would come home. we said if we pursue energy dominance there will be exploration and drilling. if we had better trade deals by showing we're tough, we would reduce the trade deficit. if you look at the numbers that came out. we have a capital spending boom. structures victims skyrocketed because of all the drilling. and the trade deficit went down and contributed to higher gdp growth. everything about the trump agenda is working and that will drive the critics crazy. i'd like to add one last thing. i promise not to filibuster. there can be a sugar high in economics. you remember cash for clunkers? their brilliant idea? they bought a bunch of clunkers and people had to buy a new car. so gdp growth went up a lot in that quarter. but then after that, they had a new car and it went back down. that was a sugar high. what we see is capital spending and capital spending increases supply. so all of those factories being
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built this quarter will have output in the next quarter and that output will sustain the growth. >> laura: some of the doubters are saying, well, a lot of this has been juiced by other countries buying our soy beans in anticipation of the tariffs that are now not going to happen as far as europe goes. so they're stockpiling the soy beans, a huge increase in u.s. exports of soy beans. just because they were stock piling. >> they were, yes. >> laura: they say in the months coming, these countries won't need to buy as many soybeans and that will put downward pressure on our gdp so thus, the 4.1% very high level of today is not sustainable going forward. the president says look for higher numbers today. >> you know, i don't know higher numbers, but i don't want to disagree with the president either. the fact is, that we understand farmers and the white house. we know the soy bean crop is about to be harvested in september and prices have gone down.
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and in part they've gone down recently because the chinese did stockpile a lot of soybeans in anticipation of a trade dispute. that is true. but there's other things like the reshoring of activity because we're no longer an unattractive tax environment. the biggest news in today's gdp report which will frustrate the democrats, this old thing called inventories. right? so if everybody decided they're optimistic about the country and they're going to buy stuff, firms will ratchet up their consumption. they're selling stuff off the shelves because production can't adjust so far. so inventory adjustment subtracted 1% from gdp growth this quarter. >> laura: we turned into fox business tonight somehow. >> i apologize. we're going to get the 1% back because the shelves are empty. >> laura: yeah. we have some fun things here, this is what paul krugman said.
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this is after the 2016 election. he said we're looking at a global recession with no end in sight. i suppose we can get lucky. but on economics as if everything else, a terrible thing has just happened. may of 2017, l.a. times, if trump thinks he can get more than 3% economic growth, he's dreaming. those are just the ones we found in five seconds in our search today. jeb bush is saying yeah, this is great because of the tax cuts. but you now have to do immigration reform and you have to have free trade policies. so he was kicking the tariffs on the way to the praise there, kevin. final comments. >> the president's strong stance on trade has delivered a lot of progress in these negotiations. on the trade deals. remember, the objective is to open up european markets, open up other markets for agricultural products. and other products from the u.s. you saw the great news from the e.u. this week. that would have never happened
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if the president hadn't fought for america's workers. you've been advising him to do. >> laura: never, never. thanks for being here. i appreciate it. >> great to being here. >> laura: and his response, the same man that worked for the obama administration, austin goulsby. an economics professor at booth school of business. tell us why we should be discouraged by a good gdp number? which to listen to some of the commentary today, it's like you want to take a prozac. this is great news and so many of the democrats could not deal with the positive news for the country or for trump, which is very sad. >> look, i'm going to agree with you. i to find that sad and you could see there were a bunch of democrats trying to spin it in a partisan way. there's nothing bad about having a 4% gdp growth number. that's good. good for america and the president is entitled to say this was a good number. you can see he was beaming with
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pride. the question now is how can we continue to sustain that. it's worth remembering just last quarter was a mediocre number. so we had around 2%. now we got 4%. let's hope we get more 4%s and not return to the 2%. i don't think there's anything that you should convince yourself that was bad about this number. it wasn't bad. >> laura: we aren't saying wages rise as we want, especially with the tight labor market. you'd think wages would begin the uptick that's a problem. >> and i agree. >> laura: that's been flat lining for 18 years. we're seeing bonuses though, which is nice to see. but people want to make more per year and per hour. >> we're not seeing it as we should. but that's the toughest part of the recovery. it has been true for a long time. it's not like this is just the
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fault of the trump administration. it's been a long period that we haven't had enough wage growth for ordinary workers in the middle of the wage distribution, if you want to think about it. that doesn't take away from the gdp today. the gdp today is very good. but just be a little careful. there's several aspects of the gdp number today that looks like they're probably temporary. we're still growing well, but there's some parts of it that -- >> laura: remember the increase in trade hasn't kicked in yet. i mean, when this european deal gets done -- >> yeah. >> laura: i understand that nafta is going to get done now, my sources are telling me. if nafta gets done and looks much more likely now, which i can't believe i'm saying that, but it does -- >> i hope you're right. every day we don't have a trade war is a good day for america. >> laura: i am right on that.
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bob lightheiser was on capitol hill. he was in front a of the senate committee. critics on both sides about the tariffs and how we're trying to take on china, this is brian schatt, democrat from hawaii. let's watch. >> first of all, you say the chinese are clever because they have a 50-year view. we should be clever and have a two or three-year view. that doesn't make sense to me. i believe that -- >> no. i'm saying we're a democracy, so we take a shorter-term view because we're responsible to our voters periodically. >> so does that mean that democracies always lose to authoritarian governments? does that mean the state capital -- >> no. sir, it just means you don't pick stupid fights. >> if your conclusion is that china taking over all of our technology and the future of our children is a stupid fight, you're right. we should capitulate. my view is that's how we got where we are. i don't think it's a stupid fight. >> laura: that doesn't get
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enough play. i thought that -- that encapsulated so much of what the trump economic agenda is all about. don't cede. fight for every job. fight for every opportunity. and lightheiser is an underrated rock star in this administration. close it out. >> well, all i will say is if your main thing is about confronting china, don't pick seven fights while carrying a six shooter. that's a gunfighter's credo and that's our problem. our natural allies to stop chinese intellectual property violation would be the very country that we're threatening trade wars with. >> laura: they're working with us, austin. they're all work with us. the e.u. is working with us. korea cut a new deal. >> they're not all working with us. >> laura: korea cut a new deal months ago. they did. they cut a new deal months ago. europe is renegotiating with us. mexico is about to renegotiate nafta. canada is realizing what is going on with the steel.
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>> and the europeans are joining with china to file grievances against us -- >> laura: that's just nonsense. we're out of time. >> we have to find a way to confront china to help us. >> laura: we tried. we're out of time. we're going to roll to black here. it's great to have you on again, it's not snakes on a plane but socks on a plane. are you confused? i am. you don't know what you're going to get on "the ingraham angle." stay there. or break a trip. and at expedia, we don't think you should be rushed into booking one. that's why we created expedia's add-on advantage. now after booking your flight, you unlock discounts on select hotels right until the day you leave. ♪ add-on advantage. discounted hotel rates when you add on to your trip. only when you book with expedia.
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the carr wildfire in northern has turned deadly and is covering up 5 squa75 square a dramatic scene on chicago's lake shore drive. a plane making an emergency landing in traffic during the evening rush hour flying under a pedestrian bridge on the way down. luckily, believe it or not, no one was hurt. now back to "the ingraham angle." >> laura: it's friday. you know what that means. one grounded plane and the biggest documentary in the country? where to begin. for more, raymond aroyo. okay, raymond. more reboots announced this week. it's like the '90s have returned. what is the latest?
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>> the 90s are back with a vengeance. "fraser" may be rebooted. remember "charm?" with the witches. and the biggest one that is causing so much blow back. and "buffy the vampire slayer." you remember that show? >> laura: no. never watched it. >> it was a huge -- in the '90s this is one of those seminal shows that captured the zeitgeist of the time. it was a girl fighting back that could be beautiful and tough. a lot of blow-back. they want to recast buffy as a black actress, have her play the lead role, this is a tweet of what is happening on social media. this is a staff writer for vulture. angelica jade. she's an african american writer. she says i'm not interested in seeing a black slayer taking on buffy and gender and race reboots. it's boring and insulting. we deserve our own mythology. that is a great important take on this. remember a few years ago, they trade to relaunch "murder she
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wrote" with octavia spencer. that went nowhere. >> laura: a flop. >> angela lansberry said i can't see it. this character is so particular to that time and place. the fans agreed with her. the reboot died. >> laura: is angela lansberry still work something. >> yeah. >> laura: she's unbelievable. >> my problem with the reboots and trying to recast them, tell new stories for this generation. you're depriving this generation of their characters, their stories by trying to squeeze them in these old sitcoms in this case. i've had it with the reboots. >> laura: it's all the benetton approach to casting. >> however, if you're going to do a -- >> laura: the "star wars" things are the worst. >> "everybody loves raymond" would make a great reboot. start writing. i love that show. speaking of reboot --
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>> laura: i didn't watch any of those. >> this is a curious story where we need a reboot from last night. a spirit airplane was grounded over what people on the plane were calling a stinky sock smell. the plane going from new york to ft. lauderdale was diverted to mirkle beach. i'm not making this up. >> laura: spirit is the worst -- it's the worst experience. i'm sorry. i've been on spirit air lines before. they charge you for air, for god's sake. don't breathe. it's $25. >> i'm bringing a camera next time she tries to get on a spirit flight. >> laura: sorry. no can do. >> the passengers started complaining. they got nauseous. and not just a few of them. they grounded the plane in myrtle beach. when people went aboard, they couldn't find the smell. and i was thinking, why didn't you check the passengers? you have a stinky sock smell. have you traveled when these people -- >> laura: no, no -- >> take their shoes and socks --
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>> laura: no, no. i took a photo of a flight from chicago. >> not you. >> laura: not the face but a 20-something had bare feet and putting her filthy barefoot with toe rings on the arm rest next -- okay. i got like a drive heave when i saw -- filthy -- if you're traveling, it's not your bedroom. otherwise just show up in an adult diaper and call it a day. >> it's not your bathroom either. clipping the nails. >> laura: oh, no! >> clipping the toenails -- >> laura: changing babies on the pull-down tray table. >> you have to change them somewhere. every time i travel, i break out the lysol wipes. you call me felix younger. >> laura: and now it's to the point that people ask raymond -- it is the odd couple. >> guilty as charged. >> laura: raymond is like don't move. he's like -- >> don't touch anything.
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you have to clean it. >> laura: all right. before we go though, before we go, there's a movie that is about to become the highest grossing biographic documentary in history. it has to be churchill, reagan. what is it? >> laura, ♪ it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood a beautiful day for a neighbor ♪ ♪ would you be mine >> laura: i hated that. >> look what i'm doing for you today. i'm putting my cardigan on for you. >> laura: the whole little village. >> let's make believe. i already feel better. i feel warmer. >> laura: you're either a cardigan person or you're not. i'm not one. i'm messing�-- i'm messing up my -- >> the new mr. rogers movie "would you be my neighbor" >> laura: no, no, no. no turtleneck.
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>> this movie is the biggest documentary in the last 25 years. >> laura: men with turtlenecks doesn't work. >> this movie is about to make $25 million at the box office. the biggest documentary in the last five years to give you an idea, al gore's movie, "the inconvenient truth" made $3.7 million. and the pope francis, 1.7 million. >> laura: bomb. >> why are people going to the mr. rogers movie? >> laura: innocence. >> decency. someone uplifting people and using the medium for good. people just like you, laura. >> laura: none of the satire on cheap cynicism. of our segments. this is a beautiful little town and -- >> mr. rogers was a presbyterian minister who used the medium for good. >> laura: he was amazing. >> he helped people through difficulties. i discovered watching the movie a life-long republican you'll be happy to know. >> laura: i got a sense of that. did he have slip-on shoes or tie shoes? >> he had the slip-ons and put the sneakers on. he would put the sneakers on.
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>> i wasn't a mr. rogers. >> children were captivated by him. >> laura: they were. >> we need more of that tenderness and nonpolitical warfare. >> laura: banish that from your wardrobe. >> you don't like the cardigan? >> laura: no. we exposed bad cardigans and the democrats craven attempts to get the immigration high ground? stay right there.
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>> laura: remember when michelle obama said when they >> laura: remember when michelle obama said when they go low, we go high? well, democratic leadership looks to be employing a new messaging strategy. when they win on policy, we lie. i give you nancy pelosi with an interesting take on immigration. >> we have a responsibility to protect our borders. let's make no mistake about that. democrats have been strong on that point, all of our borders. in fact, i said to some of you before, that when we had the
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9/11 incident and the commission was formed and they made their recommendation, they made recommendations to protect america. but the republicans would never take them up and some of it was about our borders. >> laura: is she saying 9/11 was an incident democrats are tough on immigration. well, to debate that, let's bring in michael cutler, special agent at i.n.s., predecessor to i.c.e. and francisco hernandez. great to see both of you. francisco, how are democrats tougher on immigration than republicans? which, when she's trying to convince us of that, it leads me to believe she knows they're losing on this i.c.e. issue. she's making a bold proclamation that the democrats are for border enforcement. tell us how? >> we want to get our feelings hurt and what she says or call her bluff? prove them wrong.
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make them filibuster. at least let them show their cards. we're sitting back because they hurt our feelings. what she forgot to say is to point out, all of the 911 terrorists were here legally. >> laura: no. one overstayed a visa. it was on the wrong type of visa. one shouldn't have been on the visa. so originally on an overstayed visa. but calling 9/11 an incident, as an american citizen. i know nancy has been a little slow lately. but that is abhorrent. it's beyond outrageous. michael, this argument about abolish i.c.e. which undergirds what nancy's talking about here. it's exploded across the country. protests, whipping up people. they feel bad because of separated kids. i understand that. but they backfired. the protests have backfired and most people think we need i.c.e.
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because they do human trafficking boric and all this great drug interdiction work. the democrats thought it would be nirvana. i don't see it. it's a disaster. >> it's interesting. she brings up 9/11. i arrested terrorists. most people don't realize that. the second largest con ting gent of agents assigned to the terrorism task force were immigration agents. i provided testimony to the commission. when she said well, one of the things is border security. she was right. the other part of it was immigration fraud. that's the bailiwick of ice. the same agency that she was demanding be disbanded. so how in the world can you be in two places at one time except of course, washington, but the idea that we're going to take immigration out of the a equation when the 9/11 commission found that multiple failures of the immigration system particularly interior enforcement. that was the keywords in the
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9/11 commission report. how do you eliminate interior enforcement and say you're following the recommendations of the 9/11 commission? it's crazy. >> laura: and jeff sessions was up in boston yesterday. he announced arrests in this major identity fraud operation where 25 individuals are now standing accused of stealing social security numbers and obtained about a quarter million dollars in government benefits. if you're not outraged by that, wait until you hear the stories connected to the border. >> out of 28 charged,21 are in custody and 22 of the total are in this country illegally. 19 have arrest records for everything from breaking and entering, assault and battery on a police officer. >> laura: francisco, you have this deal with identity fraud, social security fraud. collecting benefits.
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>> and you and i have been -- >> laura: and sessions says, look, this is just the tip of the iceberg. >> it is. why don't we give these folks a reason to come out of the shadows and identify themselves so we can separate the ones that want to -- from the ones that want to harm us. >> they won't. >> we have no incentive to find out who they are. they're sitting out there using your social security number and my social security number. i.c.e. can only do what congress tells it to do. i.c.e. is dependent on the ina law. congress is blaming i.c.e. both parties are blaming i.c.e. and dhs for their failure to act -- >> laura: we're not failing to act. be very clear about that. sessions is not failing to act. i interviewed andrew lulling today on the radio. >> congress. >> laura: there is great enforcement going on. michael, you can speak to this. >> sure. >> francisco -- >> laura: they're mapping out
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medicaid applications with the social security numbers and find out there's rampant fraud. it's not just people that committed violent crimes. food stamp, medicaid fraud across this country by people who came into this country illegally. it happens every single day. michael, go ahead. >> sure. francisco, wait a second. wait a moment. first of all, none of them came in legally. they all committed visa fraud. they all lied to the inspectors at the airport. wait a moment. >> they came here legally. >> you had your turn. this is my turn. the laws are adequate to go after terrorists and criminals who defraud the immigration system. >> you're right. >> the bad guys won't come out of the shadows if they know they're wanted. >> you're right. >> all you're doing is legalizing illegal aliens and giving them opportunities to hide. >> laura: very few people are covering this fraud that intersects illegal immigration. we'll be on it and dig deeper what's happening just in new
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england and fentanyl is involved, too. we're going to stay on this issue. we'll stay involved. thank you. up next, it isn't just twitter that is trying to snuff out conservative voices. wait till you hear what facebook tried to do regarding a candidate running for congress in florida. that and peter teal's message for silicon valley next. ♪ ♪ ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ don't stop it now, ♪ don't stop it no. ♪ don't stop it now, ♪ don't stop it. ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ don't stop it now, if you keep on eating, we'll keep it comin'. all you can eat riblets and tenders at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
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>> laura: boy has it been a rough week for silicon valley. twitter in hot water for shadow banning conservatives, something they had to reluctantly admit and their stock is down 20%. facebook's stock has cratered after they missed their earning estimates for the first time in three years. to make matters worse, the social media giant is accused of banning this ad from a florida republican because of the second amendment message. watch. >> i'm mack caldwell. i like guns. i love the second amendment. i support our president. that's why i'm endorsed by the nra. i'm matt caldwell. that's all there is to it. >> laura: i like that ad. here to respond, the candidate himself, state representative matt caldwell. he's running as a candidate for the commissioner of agriculture.
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representative caldwell, how did you find out this was, you know, banned on facebook? >> yeah, absolutely, laura. we have been obviously running statewide over a year now and running multiple ads every day just run of the mill stuff. like this, like that. we post this mom and apple pie pro president trump, pro nra endorsement ad and gets flagged immediately. we do what it tells you to. appeal it. let us know why you don't think it should be flagged. we wait and wait. no response. here we are five weeks out from the primary, two million voters and we're losing time while they review it. it gets lost in the black hole. we called them out in the media. put out a release and said we've been blocked from talking about this straightforward message that i've been sharing across the state for the last year and a half. until we called them out for it, they didn't take any action. once we did that, the bad publicity, they called it out,
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apologized and allowed it. but really it's just the precedent. you go through facebook's policies. automatically, anything that deals with guns or ammunition, it gets flagged. i'm running for office. i have a platform. they paid attention to me. what about private citizens? the average person that's trying to use this platform to talk about the things they believe in and want to share. >> laura: yeah, they don't have the same opportunity that you have. certainly as you said, the platform. it makes you wonder how often this happens in the course of a day. there's a lot of stuff on these social media platforms that most people find objectionable but it doesn't get flagged. whether it's nudity, semi nudity or violence from film clips. how do you start making that judgment? this is where i prefer the free market. unless it's someone being mutilated or something that is an incitement to violence.
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but thus far, there's no other problem with facebook today, right? >> no. they're running our ads now and have told us we shouldn't have anymore problems. but again, it just shows you where their mindset is at. why are guns automatically flagged? but you have things likes abortion. you can run an abortion ad. that would be -- >> laura: representative caldwell, we're out of time. we'll keep an eye on it. i have a feeling this isn't the last time we're going to be dealing with this. we'll be right back.
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